Why is it so hard for Americans to just get a tin roof like pic related?
Doubtful they are that expensive for some sheet metal.

>>508939350 (OP)
These things are very harsh in summers

>>508939350 (OP)
Why are you so obsessed with my country? Get off our dick please. We dont think about you at all.

For a porch and shed they're fine, they make rain extra comfy but for a house?
Nu uh, they're an eyeaore

>>508939426
how is it any different than an asphalt shingle roof? you can get them painted white to reflect sun

>>508939553
They heat up fast and are very weak to heavy rains

>>508939350 (OP)
Because those signal you are poor, that's it, also they make a lot of noise under rain/hail.

>>508939350 (OP)
I see them all the time in the mountains but our hail in Denver honestly beats the shit out of them.

Concrete tile works best but it’s expensive.

>>508939350 (OP)
I'd unironically look into one day having something like this in blue, but sadly that might be considered schizo/conspiracy theorist behavior.

>>508939350 (OP)
that's a dogshit roof...if you want metal get standing seam...and copper if youre a baller

They cost about $70k

Metal roof is going to cook you in winter, annoy you whenever it rains and terrify your children with impact noises during a hail storm. Its cheap tho!

>>508939350 (OP)
Metal roofs exist in the US.

>>508940257
>cook you in winter
Do you mean summer dumbass?
>its cheap
It literally is not . $30k+ depending on the roof design

>>508940257
>annoy you whenever it rains and terrify your children with impact noises during a hail storm.
It's a house, not a fucking shed mate.
You should have insulation between it and you to the point where you're not hearing it during storms.

>>508939553
That is also junk. Concrete roof tiles are also junk, they are porous, will look 100 years old in 10 years. The only roof that will last a lifetime with 0 issues is clay tiles. It is expensive though and your house better not be made of wood or it may collapse under the weight of its roof. You do have a stone house, right?

>>508940420
They exist here too but roofers only install them on agricultural buildings, pigs don't mind. If euros ask a roofer to install a metal roof roofer asks if you are an american or work in agriculture.
t.real estate developer

>>508939350 (OP)
They're fugly unless flat. Flat is justice indeed

>>508940550
clay tiles are mostly shit in continental climate ( porous so soak water and frost just destroy them in time) and must be replaced after 30 years or so!

I have some sort of metal roof but not tin. It's good, never had to get roofing work done. It does heat up the upstairs rooms in the summer though.

>>508940425
cost here like $ for 200 square meters house!
>>508940257
you stupid fuck!
you make ventilation under metal sheet!

>>508940550
>clay tiles
They become even more porous in the desert heat of our northwest mex/southwest US heat, a guaranteed replacement every 15 years if not less, then again we don't have considerable rain other than the higher parts with snow but you need high-angle roofs for that anyways.

>>508939350 (OP)

cardboard and popsicle sticks ftw.

>>508941088
>like $
*$1500

Metal roofs are slowly phasing out asphalt shingles in my midwest city.
I like the idea behind metal roofs but the cheap thin painted shit they sell is worthless, heavy gauge copper roofing is the ultimate. Slate and clay niggers pretend their roofs are great but they can not match copper.

>>508939350 (OP)
because the beaner builders only know how to use a nailgun and would overdrive the screws causing the thing to leak like a sieve.

>>508939426
>>508939426
>>508939350 (OP)
people been using copper roofs for a long as time. Commercial building use metal roofs all the time, every costco, and home depot is basically metal roofs.

>>508940425
you can get 2x50 ft for 50 bucks. that like 0.50 cents per square foot.

>>508939350 (OP)
>(((memeflag))) with the "Europoor vs Amerimutt" D&C thread
yawn

>bogan thread dot jaypeg

>>508939644
> also they make a lot of noise under rain/hail.
This is a major bonus for me.

>>508939350 (OP)
Just use tarps, you'll save a fortune and can fix it at any time by adding more tarps. You're welcome.

>Using wall sheet on a roof

>>508940516
Belgians all live in tin roof sheds. they are all traumatized as children from the sound of rain and hail.

>>508942176
>Just use tarps, you'll save a fortune and can fix it at any time by adding more tarps.
Pikey Gypsy spotted.

>>508939350 (OP)

I installed those in my house, painted it white for sunlight deflection, and gave it a layer of sound deadening foam beneath it. comfiest roof ever. Cheap too.

The US eating up kiked unreliable shingles up their asses to pretend they have money, is stupid.

>>508943617
Can't you just get white panels from the factory?
I heard painting them is a bad idea in general.

Why would you use anything other than pic related to cover your roof with?
Basically lasts forever and if one gets damaged it's super easy to replace.

>>508943766
Use Automotive paint + sealant
Nothing beats a Pearlescent Toyota Camry roof

>>508940550
>t will last a lifetime with 0 issues is clay tiles
not at all if temperature dances around 0 too often
cost-wise the metal tiles are the most economic in the long run

>>508944040
costs like 10 times more than the flabby papers they usually use

>>508939490
Yeah, nah.

I love how this thread has arguments against metal roofs that are around three decades old.
Meanwhile in Germany we actually solved them. lmao

>>508939350 (OP)
fuck off memekike, also why the fuck would i use some shit metal like tin or iron to put on my roof? they don't even form patinas

>>508949482
also with a copper roof when it's brand new you will blind helicopter pilots from the reflection, and if you use picrel you can blind commercial airliners, it's truly an empowering feeling when you get the FAA report notice

>>508939350 (OP)
All my neighbors have these. My in-laws have them. WTF are you talking about?

>>508947107
that looks super nice, it's quite rare where i'm from to see painted metal roofs that actually go w/the houses color scheme

>>508939350 (OP)
I lived and worked in northern Guatemala for just under a year. The northern half of the country is flat and hot. About 90 degrees year round, with a dry season and wet season. I'm from a temperate climate and had a hard time getting used to it, and the fact that 90% of the homes had corrugated tin roofing made the heat one million times worse.

>>508949482
wow. Americans really do not know how zinc roofs work.
tl;dr:
The core of the sheet might be stell, but the outside zinc will in fact form a patina and protect the iron from any rust if installed properly.

>>508949597
isn't copper weak af and easy to dent?

>>508949682
too humid for zinc where i live, "white rust" and thermal expansion would make it leak like a sieve and look like shit...i have a copper roof dude, you really think i didn't look at other options?

>>508939350 (OP)
What are the roof materials in pissrael?

>gentle breeze deforms roof permanently
>hail obliterates roof
>conductivity in heavy CtG lightning prone storm areas
>anywhere that has winter will have corrosive elements picked up by wind constantly
>rust
>material prices for easily damaged material
>1pbtid bot thread.

Most Americans in the suburbs have roofs like this on the roof of the shed where they store bicycles and gardening tools.

>>508939553
Its loud.

>>508949772
cold rolled copper has higher strength than pure copper or copper nickel alloys...i don't get hail where i live so not much to damage the roof other than super high winds which it holds up like a champ to

>>508941304
Wouldn’t aluminum or stainless steel be best?

>>508949943
this 100% is the only acceptable critique of metal roofs...they are super fucking loud during heavy rain if you don't get the expensive ass upsell "dampeners" installed w/it

>>508949998
lotta people have aluminum roofs where i live, stainless is a non starter due to weight

my neighbor was retarded and got one, not he has to listen to acorns hitting his roof in the fall, and rain practically all year

>>508941304
Copper alloy roofing is the most expensive tough

Houses with green metal roofs are top tier comfy cozy...I do not have one

>>508950231
Comfy as fuck to hear the rain on the roof

>>508949845
>you really think i didn't look at other options?
Yes. You are an American on 4chan. Of course I am assuming that you are stupid.

Slate for the win.

>>508950121
Uh it’s not very heavy. Not more than asphalt shingles for the thickness required anyway. I’m guessing it’s just cost.

>>508939350 (OP)
We have those here, too. Slate roofs actually last the longest.

>>508949663
Metal roofing is rather standard here since it's the cheaper option than tiles which is the other main type of roofing (concrete tiles are the main type) which not only cost more on a materials basis, but add cost to the framing because of the extra strength required.
I've never seen US-style shingles here, probably for good reason as pretty much every home has a rainwater tank.

>>508942176
Based tarp enthusiast

>>508939350 (OP)
We have these things called tornados. They also bring with them hail. They also bring with them extremely high winds. Asphalt shingles are cheaper, easier to install, heavier, and they are flexible. They are a better option for the extreme weather in most places in the U.S.

Metal roofs have actually really taken off in my area due to the extremely high amount of snow we get being hard on shingles
I might get one of i need a new roof but they are about 1.5x as expensive as shingle and this is likely not the house I will be staying in for the next 50+years of my life, so I don't want to overinvest

>>508941533
You wouldnt have a roof for very long here if it was made out of copper

>>508949679
That's why attic insulation is very important. 20-25 cm of mineral wol is enough.

>>508950643
pretty fuckin heavy dude, i have a copper roof and had to add support beams, purlins, extra gussets, and sistering rafters just to put the bitch on. the same would go for stainless as it weighs similar...most people do not want to pony up 75+k for a roof w/associated reinforcements added to framing

>>508952525
ummmm copper roofs have a 100 year warranty faggot, also i installed one in 2001, shits still going strong so your wrong
>a properly installed and maintained copper roof can last significantly longer than most other roofing materials. While asphalt shingles might last 12-18 years, and other metal roofs could reach 50 years, copper roofs can potentially last for a century or more. This longevity is due to copper's inherent resistance to corrosion and its ability to develop a protective patina.

>>508951062
there's just something about that house that makes me keep looking @ your pic...idk, it just resonates with me. fucking lovely all around 10/10.

>>508950421
haha okay peasant

>>508952815
why do you need a century? Neither you nor your kids are going to live in the house in 100 years, and people won't pay you premium for a fancy roofing when you decide to sell the house.
the only valid argument for a expensive roof is its nice look.

>>508939350 (OP)
thats what we put on sheds and industrial buildings here, fuck that on your house what a racket they make in the rain

>>508952815
gyppos will rip the copper pipes out of your house if you don't actively prevent them from doing so.
You'll have knacker parkour around your chimney every fucking night if you had exposed copper on your roof.
They steal lead off of rooves as it it and that's not worth a quarter of what copper is.

>>508952989
my family has lived in the house i own since it was built in 1903. the roof needed replacing after a hurricane ripped the old copper roof off which was installed i believe in the mid 30's.

>>508953101
hahaha we dun have gyppos on the texas coast, but mexicans will absolutely do the same. luckly my home is wayyy to fuckin tall for any chicanery of that sorts to happen. is a old plantation style home built on a bay in texas, kinda like forest gumps house but skinnier

>>508953101
just re-read the stealing lead off roofs lmfao didn't catch the first time, holy fucking shit man that's bad

>>508939426
we use them in our summer heat. nah, no different.

>>508941176
>cardboard and popsicle sticks ftw.

>>508949482
>>508949597
It's like you want your roof to get stolen by tweakers.

>>508953036
metal roofs have sound dampening options, cost extra but worth it, picrel is aussie style

>>508953400
lolol after that crackhead stole the fucking cannon by himself i wouldn't put it past the carney fucks in the backwoods near where i live

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/kansas-man-stole-800-pound-historic-cannon-drug

>>508953133
>my family has lived in the house i own since it was built in 1903.
But anon think how much GDP the country has missed out on for you not having to rebuild the house 10 times due to current building standards. Your parents are borderline treasonous.

>>508939350 (OP)
They last, but are more expensive, so if you live in an area with hail (the whole middle of the country) they will get totaled out before you save any money from the longevity.

>>508953236
>>508953294
>wayyy to fuckin tall
m8, they steal lead off the top of cathedral bell towers.
You underestimate the gyppo's lust for lead.

>>508953588
lol oh the humanity! it's funny too cuz my parents rode out a cat 5 storm in the 60's here and our house and the house at the opposite end of the street were only 2 to make it...every lot on my block has been rebuilt at least twice, some 3+ times

>>508953330
>>508953588
>american tipping culture

>>508953664
jesus christ lol, imagine if they tried to steal the bronze bell! haha that motherfucker is prob a ton+

>>508953664
are they sweetening their wine with it like the romans or some shit? lol

>>508939350 (OP)
>Americans can't have metal roofs
>>508940632
Americans only have metal roofs
well, which is it retards

It's still installed on lmao engineered trusses. Poindexters did the math on the weakest possible least durable roof possible. And you're going to put a tiny fraction of an inch of metal on it?
Concrete is the only material a roof should be made of. Icf decking still allows for gables. It has zero downsides. I'm working on my dream house. It will have concrete roof like jap houses. I'll put tile over the concrete so it looks like I'm really in Japan.

What about rust? Won't power washing stip the paint?

>>508953898
I'd say most houses have metal roofs around here. They're cheaper and easier to install than assphart while also lasting longer. Asphalt shingles is more of an upper class thing for people who live in the suburbs. They like ugly, shitty, inefficient, and overpriced things more there.

>>508939350 (OP)
People are generally opting for metal roofs instead of replacing shingles in my area now.

>>508939644
>Because those signal you are poor,
Poor or rural, which I guess in many's eyes are the same thing. Metal roofs have some downsides but they last forever so they are the economical option where replacing them regularly is not desirable.

So the only way to sell other types is to associate metal roofs with poors and convince people that having shingles which need repairs all the time is high status.

>>508954182
Why won't they use clay tiles?

>>508939350 (OP)
worst thing you can put on your house, ever. better cover it with fucking palm leafs

>>508939350 (OP)
>>508939426
We use aluminum roofs in Florida because they hold up better in the climate and hurricanes. And they look sleek and elegant.
>>508939589
>very weak to heavy rains
Not aluminum roofs here in Florida which is subject to strong tropical rain storms and hurricanes. Shingle/asphalt roofs will tear apart but metal roofs hold.
>They heat up fast
You can paint them white which will reflect the most amount of sunlight. Metal roofs are used down south because they keep houses cooler. The high thermal conductivity means they release heat quickly back into the atmosphere.

>>508954033
They're made out of aluminum and don't rust. They have a long lifespan of 50 years

>>508940116
came her to say this
those rivets means the roof is actually worse than asphalt shingles

>>508941304
>midwest
>slate
The reason you don't see a lot of slate in the midwest is due to hail damage. Slate is a superior roof to metal and will last hundreds of years provided it ising being smashed up by baseball sized hail. Metal is a better option in tornado alley, but you're only going to get about 70 years out of it.

>>508939589
>Weak to heavy rains...
Maybe in pajeet land where building quality is garbage, but it is the got to material here in our areas that are hot by tropical cyclones.

>>508944040
expensive, also I have an old house. When I replace mine I'll probably just put metal sheet on it that "looks" like a real roof.

I think metal sheeting can look good, lasts quite a long time , easily 50-60 years. And its very lightweight construction so no need to do a lot of work supporting it. It'll be lighter for the house than the current tiles I have on the roof.

>>508951062
thats a pretty neat house there m8

>>508939350 (OP)
Asphalt and clay is good enough metal roofs can stay south of the border to brown maxxed

>>508953492
Australian roof manufacturers s are smart enough to have design their metal roofs so that the screws are installed on the ridges instead of the valleys though. I swear the USA is the most retarded place ever.

>>508939350 (OP)
>>508939426
I have a storage shed out of the same material. When I go in there mid day to grab a tool when its 80F it immediately hits me and it feel awful in there and I wanna get out. Living in one would suck balls. It's like asking why most people don't live in their cars when infants regularly get cooked in them.

roofer here. those exposed fasteners will all be leaking in 10-15 years. much sooner than a shingle roof.
standing seam metal roofs are much more expensive than shingle roofs.

>>508954764
>aluminum
>And they look sleek and elegant.

Yeah initially they probably do, siding too. Then after 20-30 years its going to look like shit and require repainting or something. Houses with alu siding looks like dogshit imo. But I can admire the simplicity of it and eliminating possibility of any rot etc.

>>508955104
you guys are talking about two different kinds of metal roofs

OP picrel is riveted
Heat makes metal expand and contract, loosening the rivets
Then it rains hard and every rivet hole becomes a leak point
You'll be lucking to get 8-10 years out of that piece of shit

A standing seam metal roof is bad ass and will last decades
No rivets
The seam allows for expansion/contraction under temperature changes

>>508954209
>So the only way to sell other types is to associate metal roofs with poors
Compared to asphalt shingles, metal roofs are more expensive. Its not so much just the material itself, but the installation, edging, etc. With asphalt, you can send four Mexicans up a ladder wirh a nail gun and have a new roof in a few hours. You need some one semi-skilled for a decent metal installation. I don't know why metal is associated with poor people.

>>508955386
underrated comment, lol

>>508955469
>A standing seam metal roof is bad ass and will last decades
a shingle roof also lasts decades, and is a fraction of the price

>>508951062
>>508947107
Very nice.
We have a stone here that is a little more gray and green than this.
Wondering if it will go with the metal roof.
Is it quiet in the rain?

>>508939350 (OP)
I have a metal roof on my house, dipshit memeflag

>>508952092
>>508951062

I spent some time in Australia recently, and what caught my eye is how they use the curved corrugated roofing on the porches. The edges blend and curve around. It’s subtle, but really makes a difference. That style isn’t available in the US, from what I can tell.

>>508939350 (OP)
We do have them, all over the place.
Except ours actually have corner metal and ridge caps.
Yours looks like scrap dug out of a dumpster and stuck on a favela.

>>508955634
a shingle roof last 2 decades, 3 if you buy a premium shingle
a standing seam metal roof lasts 7-10 decades

You put a metal roof on your house in your 20s and you will never need another roof in your life

Tradie fag here. Even with perfect installation you will start to get leaks within 3-5 years because the rubber grommets on the screws start to fail both from thermal expansion and contraction as well as direct sunlight causing said grommet to crack and become frail.

>>508955469
>Heat makes metal expand and contract, loosening the rivets
That's why you have metal roofing screws that are made of corrosion resistant material and have rubber washers. Even the cheaper metal roofs need to be installed by someone that isn't an idiot and the installation will cost more than asphalt.

>>508955827
this guy knows about riveted metal roofs

>>508955824
What about the plumbing stack penetrations?

>>508955469
Nah same material, this is a building company in broome WA, corrugated galvanised iron... Or colorbond are whatever you want to call it, same material as in OP. Held in with tek screws. Works so good they clad the exterior of the house with it aswell. Notice light colour to reflect heat and seams are appropriately dealt with to mitigate lifting in strong winds. Pajeets just can't build for shit.

>>508955871
Pop rivets aren't real rivets. The exist so faggots can pretend they can work sheet metal.

>>508939350 (OP)
I was quoted $16k for fiberglass shingles and $80k for metal roof. $45k if I get the fake shakes made of old tires. I want metal, but damn.

>>508956054
This looks like they put makeup on a pig. Favela tier.

>>508955386
they are installed that way so the company gets more money in 5-10 years for "servicing"...it's planned obsolescence

>>508956101
jesus, it'd cost 80k to replace my copper roof, wtf are they charging so much for

>>508955441
A typical shingled roof needs replacing every 20 years here in the SE US. You have to check the thing for damage every couple of years too.
There's so much humidity where I live that pressure washing your home siding is a yearly thing or else you have mold and mildew covering it.
Most of a US home needs constant maintenance, so a roof that just needs some paint every few years/decades would be an improvement.

>>508955827
That's why out of all options I installed commercial pool grade material (EPDM) on a part of my flat roof.
Beats metal, or boomer installed bitumen that constantly leaked every year.

>0 leaking issues with EPDM

>>508939350 (OP)
ayo so why metal roofs ain poppin off in da u.s. like dat? listen, gettin a tin roof (yeah dat metal one) ain no rocket science but it ain jus a quick lil home depot run neitha. folks act like its sum luxury flex but da real reason u ain seein em errwhere? lets break it down real talk.

1. labor b scammin (frfr)
> dem metal sheets ain even dat pricey but dem roofers? oh dey gon tax u heavy.
> dese dudes got licenses insurance all dat, n since metal roofs take way longer to slap on dan dem weak asphalt shingles? brace ya pockets.

2. americans stay on dat ashphalt crack
> 90% of dese roofs outchea basic as hell, asphalt shingles runnin da game cuz dey dirt cheap ($1.50–$5.50 a square foot installed).
> niggas ratha save $5 today dan think bout how metal roofs last 50+ years while asphalt start lookin raggedy in 15. priorities all messed up.

3. hoas & buildin codes b on sum power trip
> hoas b da worst. “oh u cant put dat shiny roof on yo own house it don match da ~aesthetic~” bruh.
> den u got city codes tryna make u add 10 extra layers of undalayment like its a nasa project. jus lemme live!

4. folks believe anythang (literally)
> “metal roofs cost a whole down payment!” nah its like 2–3x asphalt but lasts 3x longer. math ain mathin fo em.
> “its gon sound like a metallica concert when it rain!” bffr, if its installed right u won hear nuffin.

5. roofers b lazy / uneducated
> most dese contractors only know how to lay asphalt like its 1995. soon as u say “metal” dey start sweatin.
> n if u in a small town? forget it. might gotta drive 3 states ova jus to get da materials.

6. weatha b playin games too
> out west where wildfires b wildin? metal roofs don burn. but in places where its jus… regular? folks ain tryna switch up.
> snow belt niggas b scared of ice dams (but das only if ya installer wuz trash).

>>508956434
so how much it really cost?
> cheap steel joints start at $3–$7 per square foot (jus da metal).
> but after labor? $7–$15 per square foot easy. meanwhile asphalt still sittin at $1.50–$5.50 installed.

da real reason?
it ain dat metal roofs cant get installed, its cuz:
> people stuck in dey ways
> contractors push asphalt cuz its easy
> folks scared of upfront costs (but waste money long-term)
> rules & hoas b on bs

but if u smart? metal roofs pay fo demselves.

need me to school yo ass on how to get 1 anyway? lemme know.

>>508955797
Meant for
>>508952867

>>508939350 (OP)
Lol. That roof is build like shit. There isn't even a gutter.

>>508955441
>exterior requires repainting after 20-30 years
You don't say?? Omg if I *ever* own a house I'll have to take that into consideration!

Why would I get 60 year roof for a house that will last 30 years? You guys are fucking retarded.

Europoors have a poverty mindset, that's why they are poor.

>>508956434
thanks chatgpt

Double the cost.

>>508956308
Lot's of hips and valleys. Roofers are getting ridiculous with their pricing. It would have cost half that if done ten years ago. Also price is in cad so 60k usd. Still unreasonable. I'd do it myself but I'd probably die and but what's the point of dying with an extra $80k in the bank?

>>508956124
It's a house designed for cyclone conditions mate. It's not like houses in America which are blown away when somebody looks at it wrong. Personally I'm not a fan of cladding buildings in the stuff. But in the tropics turns out it's the best material.

>>508955648
I grew up in a house with no insulation and a vaulted ceiling so rain was always loud, almost like being in a shed.
This house has sarking/insulation between the battens and metal and also a thick layer of insulation over the ceiling so you still hear the rain which is lovely, but it's muffled substantially compared to the other house.
In the rare case of torrential rain here it can be pretty loud, but having lived previously in a house with a concrete tile roof I much prefer hearing the rain on the roof.
Very comfy feeling to be in bed listening to the rain.
>>508955797
"Bullnose" is the term we use to describe the curve on the verandah (porch)

>>508956657
Why would europoors build a house out of bricks that will last 100 years instead of twigs and cardboard?

>>508957051
>Very comfy feeling to be in bed listening to the rain.
Nice , thanks for sharing.
I have 2 bedrooms upstairs that are under an EPDM rubber membrane roof.
To prevent any leaks on a flat part of the roof.
It is also very comfy during a rain.

https://www.nationsroof.com/commercial-flat-roofing/

>>508953898
Schrodinger's roof

>>508939350 (OP)
Standing Seam metal roofs are goat. Sheet metal roofs are retarded.

>>508954844
>>508955028
>>508955469
You seem like you know your shit, but why do you keep referring to the self tapping screws with rubber isolated washers as rivets?

>>508957671
What's the price difference?
Are these not just screwed down too with a little roof over the screws?

>>508944040
They will never know how cheap this things were to make with clay

Am considering making them myself to ask for way to expensive roofing

>>508957671
they're just different styles. literally the exact same material, SS just costs more and has more waste because it ends up looking more uniform. i've installed 50+ of both, even installed ones made of pure copper (now that sucks, it never stays the color the customer wants)

any metal roof is honestly better than shingles

>>508939350 (OP)
why can't americans have dirt floors?

>>508957345
Fucking this. Blows my mind Americans build houses out of recycled toilet paper and tubes.

>>508957882
we can, just have the IQ to have the choice though and nobody chooses to live like a non-white. even our section 8 niggers want their roaches and rats to have floors

>>508957697
Nta but a lot of metal roofs, particularly industrial ones, use rivets to connect the metal sheets. They mostly use blind rivets thst are basically shit as opposed to structural rivets, but still hold better than screws with rubber grommets or rubber washers.

>>508950421
I never even heard of a copper roof before just now, so it's fair to say this guy did his research into all options.

>>508939350 (OP)
because tin is for niggers and russians in their slums

>>508958011
>build a nice neighborhood
>niggers and immigrants move in and fuck it up
>move to a new neighborhood
The average lifespan for a neighborhood in the U.S. is about 30-40 years before its culturally enriched. Why would you make a house that lasts longer than that? You can go to places in Baltimore and see some of the the old school brick row houses built by European immigrants that have withstood over 100 years of being niggered. Those are brick with metal roofs.

>>508939350 (OP)
Boomer homeowners don't fix roofs at all, they let the shingles rot and then get a reverse mortgage to cash it out before they die.
Goldstein bank then sells a dump with a bad roof for $450k+ after they die.

>>508957879
>They will never know how cheap this things were to make with clay
What you faggots fail to recognize is installation matters. You cant send Carlos and his merry band of border bunnies up a ladder to install clay roofs. Installation is the main cost and asphalt is easy AF to install.

>>508958416
Get on roof, use steel wire to hold them one by one, don't even use nails

Seriously it takes more time cause is one one but is easier

>>508939350 (OP)
Not hard at all, just don't ask a mexican to do it. Find a Mennonite, they are metal artists.

>>508958058
I work commercial construction, ikwym anon.
I asked because that anon referenced OPs pic of common residential R panel.

>>508939426
not if your attic is ventilated, it acts like a heat sink

>>508940550
>You do have a stone house, right?
Get a load of Fred Flinstone here

>>508939589
most hovels i see in india do not bother to put their tin roofs at an angle. only wealthy hovel owners can aford an extra board to put on one side so the water flows away from the roof.

>>508955469
they usually use screws with a rubber washer, if the rubber wears out replace it.

>>508958537
It's the time factor. Clay takes forever to install and people are cheap cunts. You also need to prep the roof. With asphalt, you can occasionally get away with roofing over the old shingles. But its basically just staple a bunch of tarpaper down, put the shingles in place, four pops from a nail gun, and its installed. When I did my garage it was a half day's work. Asphalt exists because its, cheap, durable, and easy to install.

>>508955469
You can cover rivets with tar or other types of water proofing.
The workers never do though.

>>508956473
>>508956434
This anon may really be black...

>>508958983
because the waterproofing will still fail. and then you won't be able to change out the screws because they're all gooped up

>>508958726
This design is mostly to create a "shitting side" of the house. If you have a roof with two angles, the water will be diverted to both sides of the house and the ground will be too wet for proper street shitting. With a single sheet of tin, a majority of water will be diverted to one side of the home, leaving the other side available for defecation

>>508940550
>clay
stone tile is superior

clay, stone shales and copper are the best roof but they're heavy so additional wall and columns required to support the weight which increase the cost.

>>508942202
LYSAGHT TRIMDEK® is a versatile roof and wall cladding featuring bold, trapezoidal ribs and subtle fluting in the pans. Ideal for commercial, industrial and residential buildings.

>>508955502
Metal is cheap roofs and looks cheaper in the states. You see a metal roof you assume its one of those labor camp shacks built in the 80s

>>508956955
>Cyclone conditions
Hurricanes and tornados don't care about what your house is made of. It will rip them up regardless.

>>508940116
This. 24ga 2" snap lock standing seam with pencil ribs to avoid oil canning is the way
>>508954844
Those aren't rivets, retard. They are EPDM grommet screws. Every single metal roof on the planet has rivets. It's how you join the end wall, side wall, and ridge flashing to the field metal
>>508954087
They are not cheaper or easier to install than asphalt roofs. I fucking hate these threads because only one or two people know anything about the fucking subject matter.
>>508950047
By dampener do you mean cheap ass 1/2" EPS foam board?
>>508957697
Because everyone is retarded and has zero idea about building products or ICC codes ITT

>>508958983
Yes, let's just smear tar all over the EPDM grommets, nevermind that petroleum based products will eat right through EPDM in a few short years. THE EPDM IS THE WATERPROOFING AROUND THE SCREW PENETRATION

>>508939350 (OP)
But I do have a metal roof.

>>508952989
Something that is designed to last a century may only last a few decades due to wear and tear elsewhere, natural disasters, etc.
But it won't cause any problems for that timeline, unlike something that is designed only to last 10-20 years.

>>508962983
Is it a shitty exposed fasteners R-panel roof?
>>508958861
Your truss spans and widths have to be specifically engineered for the weight of clay tile. You also have to have specific underlayment (no one uses shitty shake felt under tile anymore) and an elevated battens system. It weighs over 1000lbs per SQ, whereas shingles are 220ish.

Why not just make a roof out of mirrors? Reflect that sun right back at God.

>>508958861
Also ugly as sin and very easy to grow life in it

Tile roofing even tile exterior walls are simple af to make and to build with, are tasks single women could do cause it doesn't imply moving large materials, this is the patriarchy keeping women from building houses

>>508959582
Not to mention polymer modified asphalt will literally dissolve EPDM overtime.

>>508939350 (OP)
They are very common where I live.

>>508939350 (OP)
Entitled Americans on welfare expect tin roofs to be on the house

>>508939350 (OP)
Metal roofs have been gaining popularity in the US for the last ~20 years. Not everyone likes the aesthetic though, and they are harder to walk on if you have steep roof.

>>508963291
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/mirror-on-roof-renovation
https://archive.curbed.com/2017/7/28/16056156/mirror-house-architecture-design

>>508963265
R-panel. Yes.
Shitty? No. The rain sounds nice on it.

>>508940257
This npc has never enjoyed a good sleep under a metal roof while its raining lol

>>508964164
R-panel is literally worse than an asphalt roof. You can replace screws when they fail exactly twice before you reach the terminal width for grommets. Should have gone standing seam.

>>508963330
Copper or zinc ridge flashing keeps shit from growing on it.

>>508939350 (OP)
>be me
>live in Mojave desert
>get tin roof cause some eurobong said so
>OK I guess
>mutter something about being more open minded and cultured
>have entire foam insulated roof replaced with fucking sheet metal, despite my foam roof being brand new and having better heat dispersion than steel
>can't have eurotrash thinking less of me.mp4
>June hits 112f
>my family and I fucking roast alive in our own homes
>at least we're not ignorant Americans!

Fuck outta here

>>508964525
>Be you
>Idiot that doesn't understand that any roof mounted insulation over R-7 is only found on low slope roofs
>Doesn't understand that your insulation is in the attic or between the truss spans under the sheathing
>Also too retarded to understand that attic ventilation has everything to do with heat transfer inside the house and not the type of color of roof you have
>Also too retarded to understand that coated spray foam roofing is only good when there is zero severe weather and that even small hail will absolutely destroy it

>>508958107
This is clearly Barashimura, Japan.

>>508964996
>assuming I have an attic or roof crawl space
>assuming the space in between my inner ceiling and exterior roof isn't insulated with fiberglass
>all these fucking assumptions
>over the internet
>to a stranger

Touch grass. And I mean that. I can't, because, well ya know, Mojave desert and whatnot lol

>>508965226
There is retard. You don't have ceiling joists? You have a spray foam insulated flat fucking roof, do you not?

>>508955386
Shame builders won't be following those guidelines

>>508965330
>You don't have ceiling joists?
Nope. 14 inches of space from inner ceiling to exterior roof, with fiberglass insulation in between.
> You have a spray foam insulated flat fucking roof, do you not?
Yes. Flat, thus no ceiling joists, no crawl space and the insulation on the part of the house that's most bombarded by the desert sun.

>retard
Fucking roflcopter. You're obviously the one who needed a reading comprehension class well into high-school.

Why are you so angry I don't want your bullshit metal roof? Are you a metal roof salesman?

Vinyl if you don't live in the desert is great.
Vinyl is nearly indestructible in terms of exposure decay. Flexible, quite, cheap, easy to work with, lightweight.

>>508967327
hail?

>>508942521
Nah, they all have tile roofs.

>>508949482
Why not bronze?

>>508967832
Is vinyl siding damaged by hail?
It has a lot of flex to the material and is very plastic for deforming. It can't shatter or crack from impacts.

>>508950442
They're pretty common around here in the DC area, but they are usually in expensive neighborhoods on 100+ year old brick houses and rowhouses.

>>508951062
That ornament in the middle of the walkway has to be annoying to have to constantly go around. It would get old fast.

Metal roofs are common here stupid

>>508955797
You can't even get decent metal awnings anymore. They only make shitty ones now.

>>508952815
>While asphalt shingles might last 12-18 years
The fuck? 30-50 years bro.

>>508969221
>Is vinyl siding damaged by hail?
yes, all the time.

t. roof estimator

>>508939350 (OP)
...why would we want a tin roof?

Third worlders are so fucking weird

>>508955855
>rubber washers
How long do those last?

>>508965772
>Are you a metal roof salesman?
It sure sounds like he is. Or an installer. Seething hatred of the lower cost r panel gives it away

>>508956054
Looks like shit. Where are the gutters?

>>508939350 (OP)
It's not hard at all, they're cheap as shit. They're also fucking ugly and low class.

>>508939589
you are 100% wrong, live in Florida my metal roof has outlasted every single one of my neighbors asphalt/tile roof and survived three hurricanes with zero damage.

>>508969897
8-15 years

>>508939350 (OP)
Enjoy your concerto when it rains retard. And also living in a literal cooker.

>>508958060
You've never seen a building with a green roof?

>>508970320
>Enjoy your concerto when it rains retard. And also living in a literal cooker.
People will put that cotton candy you love to eat underneath the roofing. This special cotton candy not only taste good but dampens noises and buffers temperature while also tasting quite nice.

>>508964518
Tru

>>508970080
>gutters
You don't need them for slab foundations.

>>508969897
If the installation is done right and you take your time, longer than asphalt. But you need a support structure underneath the metal roof, it needs to be installed correctly, you cant cheap out on materials, and it's probably not worth it for most people. If you are paying to have someone else do the installation, it's going to be about 4x the cost of asphalt and maybe last a few years longer. The screws with rubber washers will last about 30 years if they are screwed into wooden beams and if you use cherry max rivets to connect unsupported metal sheets. Asphalt makes way more sense for like 95% of Americans. I'd consider metal if I had a cabin in the woods that isn't pummeled by direct sunlight and had a bunch of trees to protect it from direct weather like hail. Even if the rubber washers fail, just used a rubberized weather coat and the metal roof will last indefinitely. But since most people are njggers that cant be bothered wirh preventative maintenance, just roll with 20-year asphalt shingles and move on with your life.

>>508958787
How often are you going up on your roof to inspect every single screw to make sure nothing has worn out?

>>508972175
Practically speaking, you are looking for water leaks or musty smell on the joists. If you see that, use a rubberized weather coat on your metal roof and you can extend its life for a few years.

>>508939350 (OP)
shingles are better than the corrugated metal roofs
the crimped metal roofs are the best

>>508956249
Why are Americans Jewish?

>>508939350 (OP)
Classy. Is it real tin?
Or is it some kind of tin-a-like alternative like… poo?
I want 3 one day then i can retire safe in the knowledge that i have to leave the house in thinderstorms

*thunderstorms. Dah, you didn’t think i meant thinderstorms did you? That’s stupid you suck.

>>508972891
Days go by and still I think of poo
Days when I couldn't live my life without poo
Without poo
https://youtu.be/TawsObcPWss?si=HASYOQQRwXW8eToc

>I have metal which rusts as my roof
>Why oh why oh why haven’t you thought of this yet too?
>so there

>>508972716
how convenient

>>508944040
i get these niggers falling from the sky here every few years and it will shit on a roof like that

>>508973164
In the mountains there is barely any rain or humidity, just snow which melts on metal and dries quick
Comf
https://youtu.be/QEAb_KcaQTc?si=nzEmrQ0mfux0lFF6
Womf even

>>508939426
>is a dirty street shitter
>doesnt understand effect of colour on sunshine and heat
>monkeys are cleaner than him

>>508973866
Well go on civilized the poor chaps old boy
Finish what you've started

>>508939426
No... noooooo. They reflect a ton of heat actually. The reason why people don't have tin roofs is because they last forever. I've heard people say other goofy shit about tin roofs as well, like "they are noisy when it rains" or "DO YOU KNOW HOW HEAVY METAL IS? I'M NOT PUTTING THAT ON MY ROOF"

>>508939350 (OP)
I live in AZ and I have a blue metal roof exactly like the one pictured.
>>508940257
It's unironically quieter than any shingled roof I've ever slept under.
>>508939589
No problem in AZ, though I do live in the mountains. We also get a monsoon in the summer and it has never once leaked.

>>508950231
You should cover your house in cow shit like an east indian, that will prove that retard wrong