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Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:54:46 AM No.509075774
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How do you reconcile cosmology with Christianity (and religion in general)?
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Anonymous ID: TWQ7PTZGUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:57:03 AM No.509075936
>>509075774 (OP)
>cosmology
aren't those the guys that claim 99% of the mass in the universe is missing?
Yea, I think I won't be listening to anything they have to say.
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Anonymous ID: TPLlx588United States
6/30/2025, 12:58:02 AM No.509076016
By not being a christkek and being a perennialist panendeist
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Anonymous ID: 5UPi27J1United States
6/30/2025, 12:58:46 AM No.509076070
fyi a lot of famous cosmologists actually are religious but the retarded general public thinks that religion and science are opposites for no good reason so who cares
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Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:01:31 AM No.509076261
>>509076070
>fyi a lot of famous cosmologists actually are religious
Why? The extreme insignificance of humanity flies in the face of all rellgions who claim the creator of the Universe has a special interest in us.
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Anonymous ID: zpbKCjETUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:03:34 AM No.509076452
>>509075774 (OP)
God created everything. Why are you seething about parts of creation?
Anonymous ID: unAEKVGJNorway
6/30/2025, 1:03:39 AM No.509076455
>>509075774 (OP)
Cosmology is understanding of matter and energy. How things are.
Christianity is moral worldview. What to do.
They don't interfere or need to be reconciled unless you're a literal creationist.
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Anonymous ID: qcCD9ZDOGermany
6/30/2025, 1:05:28 AM No.509076596
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>>509075774 (OP)
people all over the world came up with religion and God(s) because of what they observed in the sky (Planets/Stars = Gods), and what they saw was different from what we see today.
for example they had a different sun, they experienced a time without the moon or any visible stars and without day and night cycle.
also the God of the old testament is "EL" and Cronos (or Kronos-the Greek name for the planet Saturn) is called "EL" by the Phoenicians. go figure.
also FYI jews, hindus and muslims are also saturn worshippers.
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Anonymous ID: 5UPi27J1United States
6/30/2025, 1:06:45 AM No.509076687
>>509076261
entomologists on earth have a special interest in insects and insects are often synonymous with insignificance
it doesn't follow that because the universe is big its creator assuming there is one doesn't have a special interest in us
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Anonymous ID: Qj1CiLs4United States
6/30/2025, 1:08:20 AM No.509076803
Cosmologists have no of verifying any of their telescope observations are what they think they are.
Anonymous ID: 2yWSLR49United States
6/30/2025, 1:08:27 AM No.509076810
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>>509075774 (OP)
>How do you reconcile cosmology with Christianity (and religion in general)?
https://files.catbox.moe/96lw32.png
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Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:09:16 AM No.509076870
>>509076455
Christianity is based on the Bible which states the creator of the Universe sent himself to a desert on an insignificant planet. It requires acceptance of this as fact. It is not just a moral worldview.

>>509076687
Are entomologists concerned with insects' belief systems?
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Anonymous ID: Qj1CiLs4United States
6/30/2025, 1:09:46 AM No.509076911
>>509076261
No it doesn't. It affirms it. An incomprehensibly vast universe filled with rocks and gas. Nothing special happens anywhere. Except for one point, where their is sentient life.
Anonymous ID: HyQC+3o8United States
6/30/2025, 1:10:14 AM No.509076944
>>509075774 (OP)
by not following christianity, use it as data bro. its all just a fractal God simulation. Enjoy the ride and praise the sun!
Anonymous ID: FzOY8vuSUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:10:14 AM No.509076946
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Didn't Jesus physically launch out BioPhotons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophoton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
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Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:11:36 AM No.509077049
>>509076810
I can't access that file. Why are you posting links to an image on an image board?
Anonymous ID: 583SdeLYGermany
6/30/2025, 1:12:12 AM No.509077095
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>>509075774 (OP)
Do you not listen? We do not live on a spinning wobbling globe. There is not even a shred of logic and reason in that notion. Only fantasy that defies actual physics.
We do not live on a spinning waterball in with air-pressure wrapped around it within a vacuum. It's a Roman Catholic invention, a concept for your mind, installed with emotion through hollywood movies and video games and popculture and "that's what everyone believes so it must be true".
It's not reality. CGI and cinematography on a screen is not reality.

https://youtu.be/olbyJDou4qQ
https://youtu.be/crasHY5HCdI
Anonymous ID: l6c12dn6United States
6/30/2025, 1:12:14 AM No.509077097
>>509075774 (OP)
What part of all powerful do you retards not understand
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Anonymous ID: 5UPi27J1United States
6/30/2025, 1:12:22 AM No.509077105
>>509076870
>Are entomologists concerned with insects' belief systems?
they definitely would be if insects had belief systems
i'm not even an entomologist and i'd be very interested if that were the case
but that's really beside the point which is that just because something is relatively small and you don't personally attach much value to it doesn't mean someone else like maybe god wouldn't care
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Anonymous ID: kkSMUktdUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:12:40 AM No.509077128
>>509075774 (OP)
By being older than 10, having an IQ above 85, and realizing bronze age jews did not have the correct answers when they wrote your favorite harry potter books. Aka the bible.
Anonymous ID: rp6M7hYO
6/30/2025, 1:12:49 AM No.509077136
>>509076596
Shalom
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Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:13:05 AM No.509077165
>>509077097
Why didn't God explain how his Universe doesn't make sense?
Anonymous ID: I41Hi7WcUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:13:29 AM No.509077191
>>509075774 (OP)
By Theosophy. An expanded and cosmic sense of religion.
Anonymous ID: leHc48EO
6/30/2025, 1:13:54 AM No.509077223
Every Golems Dream
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>>509075774 (OP)
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.
Anonymous ID: QDlnYf1JUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:14:31 AM No.509077266
>>509077105
>they definitely would be if insects had belief systems
How do you know they don't?
Your analogy is half baked anyways, entomologists did not create insects.
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Anonymous ID: YMXns2dpUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 1:14:53 AM No.509077289
>>509075774 (OP)
look at all that fucking land God made for us
Anonymous ID: EoHZAoNk
6/30/2025, 1:15:42 AM No.509077348
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You can't.

The bible literally teaches heaven is an actual kingdom in the sky. Obviously this is false and so is the rest of the jew cult.
Anonymous ID: KZ2Un2GOUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:15:44 AM No.509077350
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>>509076016
>perennialist panendeist

this just means fag btw
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Anonymous ID: tOYJm5lO
6/30/2025, 1:16:00 AM No.509077373
THIS IS WHAT POL ACTUALLY BELIEVES
THIS IS WHAT POL ACTUALLY BELIEVES
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>>509075936
>>509076946
>>509076810
>tings exist
>therefore the universe was created by a jew from Israel, therefore jews are GODS
lmao no wonder Israel is so powerful if even nazi /pol/cucks believe in the divinity of jews.
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Anonymous ID: KZ2Un2GOUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:16:33 AM No.509077420
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>>509076016
>>509077350
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Anonymous ID: 5UPi27J1United States
6/30/2025, 1:17:36 AM No.509077503
>>509077266
i don't know but it seems like they don't, maybe an entomologist would think differently
and the analogy isn't about creation it's about whether or not you can take a special interest in something seemingly insignificant which i think you absolutely can and if you can then why can't god
Anonymous ID: FzOY8vuSUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:18:15 AM No.509077551
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The universe is simple. Black holes are one of the simplest things possible once you unlock the key, solar systems, galaxies, they are singular parts inside of the human universe machine.
The number of moving complex parts inside of the human body, inside even a work or a bacteria, compared to stars predictably churning out measurable element configurations is enormous.

And once you understand consciousness....oh buddy....the complexity...

It takes an entire universe in order to build life. It might take the creation of Population 1 stars to even begin to form life, which takes billions of years to go from Pop 3 (the first stars made of basic simple building blocks like hydrogen and helium), to Pop 2, to Population 1 (our Sun) the gold and silver required, the heavy metals, the chemical reactions, for life might require this for the somewhat rational and possible odds/chance combinations.
Anonymous ID: kkSMUktdUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:18:26 AM No.509077567
80 percent
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>>509077420
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Anonymous ID: K+RBlEUoUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:19:20 AM No.509077640
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>>509075774 (OP)
Good luck midwits
Anonymous ID: KZ2Un2GOUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:19:22 AM No.509077644
>>509077567
>stats vs some kikes new book

wow
Anonymous ID: i6DvKFxAUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:21:30 AM No.509077815
>>509075774 (OP)
They arent at odds with one another. If anything modern cosmology validates religion.
Anonymous ID: fWYsTT6xUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:22:26 AM No.509077883
>>509076455
If a religion is simply a moral worldview, and not an accurate account of how things literally physically happened, then it is not needed. Just have the moral worldview without the religion.
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Anonymous ID: +9L0niIdUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:24:18 AM No.509078042
There's a reason neoplatonism and early church figures are so intertwined. Platonic idealism does a pretty neat job of reconciling material reality with spiritual belief.
Anonymous ID: TWQ7PTZGUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:25:14 AM No.509078109
>>509077373
>memeflag
I see your american reading comprehension through your memeflag, mutt.
Anonymous ID: ckKT6j3y
6/30/2025, 1:25:43 AM No.509078150
>>509075774 (OP)
one is electronic observation and the other is a social engineering tool from a 2500 year old empire known for enslaving and crucifying people

I don't understand how you are conflating that they have an overlap for similar purposes.
Anonymous ID: WUkOiVggGermany
6/30/2025, 1:28:01 AM No.509078325
>>509075774 (OP)
>How do you reconcile cosmology with Christianity (and religion in general)?
By ... understanding Christianity and religion in general.
Anonymous ID: tKQm8K6yUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:28:14 AM No.509078342
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I am a Shia Muslim and have no issue reconciling the natural sciences with religion.

The Koran even confirms our understanding of things like the evolution of life, and the Golden Age of Islam laid the foundation of modern science.

"And Allah has created from water every living creature."

- Surah An Nur 45

The natural sciences deepen my faith and love for God. Allah has filled this universe with many wonders that are yet to be discovered.

Iran, the largest Shia Muslim nation, invests heavily in science and produces a high output of scientific research. They even host leading American scientists.

That should tell you something. A Shariah state that invests heavily in science and education, including higher education for women.
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Anonymous ID: e/SVbqRPUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 1:29:10 AM No.509078418
G_d created the universe as a test, like dinosaur bones, idiot. the ultimate test of faith in Him is to put trillions upon trillions of other worlds out there and leave you with countless questions. Only the most faithful will reside with him in the new, solid gold and gemstone Jerusalem (heaven) described in Revelation. The rest will be stung by scorpion-tailed locusts for 5 months.
Anonymous ID: YGV0/L+9
6/30/2025, 1:30:48 AM No.509078552
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>>509075774 (OP)
>there is anything to reconcile
Anonymous ID: WUkOiVggGermany
6/30/2025, 1:31:15 AM No.509078583
>>509077883
> If a religion is simply a moral worldview
That isn't what religion is.
> an accurate account of how things literally physically happened
This is also not what religion is.
Have you actually read and thought about any religious texts at all?
> Just have the moral worldview without the religion.
You realise that half the population are literal retards, right? And that's in a developed nation.
Anonymous ID: qcCD9ZDOGermany
6/30/2025, 1:45:39 AM No.509079676
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>>509077136
>Shalom
The Hebrew shalom derives from shalam, which means "to be safe."
So, also, with the Maltese "sliema" which also means "safety."
"Peace" and "safety" are allied terms but, in a sense, is not also "stability"?
Now, as it happens, the Egyptian word "sharm" means "to be peaceful," but also "to be idle" that is "to be doing nothing," which negates motion.
Another Egyptian word meaning "to be at peace" is "heri", but "heri" also means "to rest."
The Egyptian word most commonly used for "to be at peace," however, is hetep which also means "to repose," "to rest," and "to be at rest."
This, then, raises the question: Given that Atum was described as being fixed in the middle of the sky, what is the logical characteristic to be allotted him when he is stated to have been "em hetep" to have been at peace, or to have been at rest?
This, incidentally, brings us back to the god Imhotep -the same as Em Hetep - and makes us ask the question:
Was Imhotep really the deified architect who built Djosers pyramid, as generally believed?
Or was he yet another manifestation of the immobile god we have learned to recognize as Saturn?

also the city you call Jerusalem/Salem was named in honor and dedicated to the god Shalem/Shulman.
this god was worshipped there and can be traced at least to the time of Israels United Monarchy.
Also rendered "Shulman" or "Shulmanu", this gods name gave Jedidiah, son of David and king of Israel, his more popular name of Solomon. Rendered Shlomoh in Hebrew, this monarchs name has also been stated to have been derived from shalom. (member the Arabic salam and Maltese sliema.)
The probability, however, is that both the monarchs name and the word for "peace" derived from the name of the god.
Slomoh (Shlomoh) means "belonging to Salim"
Biblical theophoric names derived from Shalem are common including the names of kings of Israel and Judah.
Among such names we find: Shallum, Shelemiah, Shelomi, Shelomith (or Shulamit),
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Anonymous ID: qcCD9ZDOGermany
6/30/2025, 1:56:34 AM No.509080526
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>>509079676
also reminds of Vladimir Putin which mother has the maiden name (the surname she had before marriage) "Shelom-ova", cohenincidence?
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6/30/2025, 1:58:15 AM No.509080675
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>>509075774 (OP)
very easily
Anonymous ID: RZMnxawGItaly
6/30/2025, 2:44:06 AM No.509083967
>>509078342
Where you conceived by mutah? Did your Shia mom do mutah with the al-zutt men?
Anonymous ID: 8LrsBl0AUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:45:46 AM No.509084072
>>509075774 (OP)
i dont believe anyone who says we can observe things 10000000000000000000000000 miles away with any sort of accuracy
Anonymous ID: yoiT0SM6United States
6/30/2025, 2:58:36 AM No.509084942
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>>509075774 (OP)
You don't.
God was right.
Everything you learned when you were 3 years old about Genesis was true.
Evolution is a Pagan philosophy that Aristotle and everyone else declared was stupid.
The Roman Empire Executed Athiest.
Science is just GloboHomo Jew Religion.
Jews are athiest who deny The Exodus even happened.

I no longer care for your Jewish mind games.

Jesus Christ is God.
Joseph his Adopted Father was the Heir to the throne of David.
By Jewish Law Jesus was your Kind and you murdered him.

Now Repent and be Baptized in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Anonymous ID: yoiT0SM6United States
6/30/2025, 3:02:01 AM No.509085164
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>>509084942
*King of Israel

Satan the God the Jews worship will not stop me. Repent before it is too late. Repent for your sins. Harden your hearts all you want and deny facts Jesus was the Messiah begged the heavens for.
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Anonymous ID: RZMnxawGItaly
6/30/2025, 3:04:21 AM No.509085328
>>509084942
>>509085164
Based trad cath.
Anonymous ID: Wf5gWROYGreece
6/30/2025, 3:06:55 AM No.509085494
>>509075774 (OP)
1. Americans confuse Christianity with the crazy Evangelicals they have there, who believe the word of the Bible is literal.
Actual Christianity (Orthodox and Catholic) know that some stuff is not literal, and also know that Christianity is belief in the Gospel, not the Old Testament.
Many of the first scientists were priests and monks.
American "Christians" are descended from a bunch of crazies who left the civilized world with nothing but a book.
Religion is not just one book.

2. Believing in Christianity or any religion in 2025 is retarded.
They are horribly outdated and contain a lot of manmade bullshit.
All the religions contain fragments of the truth. Nobody is forcing you to believe in just one.
Just make up your own mind.
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Anonymous ID: RZMnxawGItaly
6/30/2025, 3:13:19 AM No.509085954
>>509085494
>They are horribly outdated and contain a lot of manmade bullshit.
Prove it
Anonymous ID: EKj3H6cEUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:14:37 AM No.509086061
>>509075774 (OP)
>God made humanity I his own image
>Humanity is fucking retarded and evil
>God is fucking retarded and evil

There, I solved existence.
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Anonymous ID: 5K6AxZ/CCanada
6/30/2025, 3:16:02 AM No.509086155
>>509076261
Aah yes, because no religion ever has taught that humans are small before infinite magnitude of Gods power, right?

Try thinking before you post next time
Anonymous ID: RZMnxawGItaly
6/30/2025, 3:16:04 AM No.509086159
>>509086061
The Imago Dei is about consciousness, not retardness but if you struggle with that anon please do not project it onto others.
Anonymous ID: U++HqLzKUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:17:51 AM No.509086280
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>>509075774 (OP)
>SIT THE FUCK DOWN YOU UNEDUCATED CHILD
Anonymous ID: 5EnSfyJ4United States
6/30/2025, 3:20:52 AM No.509086473
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>>509075774 (OP)