Why aren't Arabs ever called colonizers?

>>509145428 (OP)
Because it implies they built anything

>>509145428 (OP)
A religion isnt a colonizer. Arabs dont have colonies, their language and religion spread. They are conqueros tho, but its not like they migrated en masse to replace the conquered populations.

>>509145428 (OP)
Uhm sweetie....only white people (Europeans) are evil colonizers because they oppressed PoC folx and destroyed they vibrant culture

>>509145428 (OP)
Because they're not white and it doesn't fit the societal narrative spun by jewish media. /thread

>>509145495
Fpbp

>>509145428 (OP)
I always wondered why Spanish and Portuguese people were so brown, this explains it.

>>509145428 (OP)
Leftist logic. Brown anti-christian religion can do no wrong.

>>509145428 (OP)
Arabs considered people they conquered equal as long as they accepted Islam. Europeans colonized and discriminated based on skin colour. Those aren't remotely the same thing. basically Arabs were spreading what they thought was the truth, Europeans were just out to enslave and exploit people.

>>509145428 (OP)
Because it happened like 1000 years ago, same reason nobody is seething at the mongols or italians

>>509145428 (OP)
Because you wouldn't have let Jews talk you into mass immigration if they were called that. By calling them refugees, they used your pity to open your borders.

>>509145753
This. Arabs managed to convince the locals they conquered that they were part of the majority group unlike Europeans who looked down on the locals and never really became part of them, perhaps with the exception of Spain and Portugal but they are basically Arabs too.

>>509145428 (OP)
UM SWEETY

COLONIZERS = WYPPO + COLONIZING

DO BETTER

>>509145428 (OP)
Colonizers is overselling it. They were pillaging and making slave capture razzias through those lands but little else.
The cucks living there barely resisted despite being 30x more numerous and were slowly bullied into adopting the lifestyle of savage sand people because Arabs imposed lighter conditions if the cucks turned themselves into sand barbarians, but the Arab blood is very thin in regions other than those they already inhabited pre-islam.

>>509145428 (OP)
Why aren't Mexicans called colonizers the Spaniards did the same exact things white people did

>>509145816
uhm....you're wrong chud. We were evil colonizers too

>>509145576
Oh i see you are retarded

>>509145826
Also this. People back then did not know better. Especially some Arab tribes in a desert. Europeans, however, with all their development and civilization conscientiously chose to commit evil. Which is what they are being shamed for.

>>509145997
>picks the worst places in Africa to colonize

>>509145428 (OP)
Contiguous empires aren't seen as colonisers, usually only overseas empires because boats are racist n sheet. Zanzibar should be called colonialist albeit.

>>509145941
>. They were pillaging and making slave capture razzias through those lands but little else.
Not on lands they controlled, raids were on foreign lands

>>509145941
they didnt though the average farmer peasants life who were 99% of the population barely changed

>>509145574
They literally colonized and conquered people and forced them to convert to islam. The capital of Turkey was built by europeans.
If the arabs did nothing wrong then the indians in America need to shut the fuck up about the trail of tears.

>>509145997
you were horrible colonizers, all of your colonies cost you a ton of money with no benefits and only lasted like 10 years or less

>>509146082
everything else was already colonized by French peepo and Brits

>worst places
the horn of Africa was called a jewel of Africa while under our rule

>>509146082
Ethiopia is decent by African standards. Which is probably why they kicked Italy's ass.

>>509145428 (OP)

Because they were conquerors, not colonizers. Zoomerfag.

>>509146253
>The capital of Turkey was built by europeans.
Mutt education at work

>>509145753
>>509145922
No they didn't. Th conquests were an Arab imperialist movement, although obviously they didn't have the consistency of a modern day ideology.
It is after and only after the fiasco of Berber rebellions that they relaxed the ethnic Arab domination component.

>>509146094
Foreign land was anything outside Arabia, and they were frequently raiding each other between tribes even there.

>>509146187
Ah yes sure, you went from living under the Justinian code to living under sharia. No difference.

>>509145428 (OP)
You think millions of arabs replaced all those people's? It was a religious revolution mostly. When poles became communist they didn't become Russians. Jews in Palestine and Egyptians were still the same people they just took up islam and arabic culture.

>>509146324
Ethiopia doesn't have the riches west African countries have and Libya although has oil is a desert shithole. Gennaro got the shittier countries.

>>509145428 (OP)
They are, you just exist in an echo chamber and dont see how other people talk

>>509146430
>Th conquests were an Arab imperialist movement
It really wasn't. Especially because back then Arabs were not a unified ethnicity and were merely a collection of many tribes.

>>509146087
>Contiguous empires aren't seen as colonisers
Nah, it's just white=coloniser
Nobody gives the Mongols shit and they were the most brutal people in history

>>509146430
>Ah yes sure, you went from living under the Justinian code to living under sharia. No difference.
yes to your average peasant it barely made a difference

>>509146430
>Arab imperialist movement
I'd say that is more similar to the Mongol invasions but with a religious mission which is why it succeeded while the Mongol one ultimately failed.

>>509145428 (OP)
Because they have brown skin.

>>509146253
they didnt colonize anyone they just replaced the ruling class

>>509145753
Medieval Europeans absolutely did think Christianity was true and uplifting. Arabs explicitly conquered people for slaves and even prevented conquered ethnicities from converting at points so they could tax and enslave them more at points lmao, shut the fuck up you turd worldist liar.
>>509145816
The Ottomans and Oman colonies coexisted with European empires lol and so did the Mughals for a time. Al Andalus lasted 700 years and fell only shortly before Mexico was conquered

BROWNS ARE NEVER CONSIDERED RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THEY DO. THAT'S THE ANSWER

>>509145753
>equal as long as they accepted Islam
That means non-muslim people were still on the outside with everything you complain about with Europeans. Jizya was built into islam to exploit non-muslims.

>>509146082
All the good ones were taken

>>509146610
>It's not colonization, we're just raping you and destroying your native culture and turning you into slaves while taking your land and resources

>>509146641
>Medieval Europeans absolutely did think Christianity was true and uplifting

Yes. Europeans are mostly criticized for 19th century colonization, not Medieval stuff with an exception for Crusades maybe.

>>509146525
Maybe, I never see Russians being called colonisers despite how much non-Russian ethnic land they hold, but that could be because leftists are all secretly pro-Russia

>>509146447
www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUSTRE7704PB/
Tell me more about how they didn't genetically replace Europeans from North Africa and Anatolia, so you can be wrong some more.

Europeans made it across the entire Earth with their ships, but somehow they never crossed the Mediterranean, which is the calmest of seas and small compared to the Earth's oceans?

>>509145428 (OP)
umm, because brown people are too weak & stupid to be colonizers sweaty!

>>509146654
>That means non-muslim people were still on the outside with everything you complain about with Europeans. Jizya was built into islam to exploit non-muslims.
all you had to say were a couple of magic words to change your religion, its not like the africans that were colonized could change themselves to be white

>>509146654
In Arab colonization you could easily become equal. With European colonization you virtually could not.

>>509146402
I mean he's retarded, but accidentally correct, Ankara was not built by the turks.

>>509146762
They don't have the knowledge required to process that Russia is an empire, in the old world sense of the word.

>>509146869
>Jizya
How is jizya different from any other tax? the Romans and the British taxed the shit out of their subjects too.

>>509146931
Lol bro

>>509146736
so the roman empire? i dont see you seething at them though

>>509146938
He obviously thinks Istanbul is Turkey's capital. Europeans somehow know New York isn't the capital of the US, maybe Americans should be a bit more curious too sometimes.

>>509147004
Its a discriminatory tax by design. But it was fairly normal for that time. Even liberal in a way because many cultures would just kill you for following a different religion then.

>>509145753
Fucking retard.

>>509147162
>discriminatory tax
All taxes are. Just look at the BBB.

Why do you spend your time like this? You go online to make yourself a victim instead of struggling towards something or building something.

Yes, the zionist Jews push hypocrisy in the media and academia. But what are these "gotcha" moments building towards? What is your goal? What is your long-term plan?

You don't go beyond charting their influence and hypocrisy. Towards actually doing something about it. I have staked my life and freedom against the zionist government, experience consequences for it, yet still I push on towards my goals despite adversity.

>>509145495

The Islamic Golden Age laid the foundations of the modern world, but you don't know history so you pretend you do in order to cope. All you people do is point fingers and make excuses.

Was the propagation of Western Civilization really inherently evil and wrong? It did lead to the propagation of literacy, medicine, education, technology. It was not completely evil nor saintly, yet it did bring us here today.

The zionist Jews quite literally genocide and enslave my people, they threaten my life and freedom, they have also destroyed my career, I have every reason to spend my days whining as you people do but instead I set goals and push on.

Every week I receive reports of martyrs, men young and old who have given their lives to stop the zionist Jews. They are my inspiration. You people do indeed point out the hypocrisy and corruption of zionist Jews but I do not think it will actually amount to anything until you embrace Jihad. Because all you seem to do is worship politicians and celebrities and carry out cowardly lone wolf attacks against defenseless people.

With Jihad, men can be armed and organized intelligently at scale with political and military influence to achieve real change. To actually challenge the zionist Jews with honor in the field of battle.

>>509147234
Jizya was designed specifically to incentivize people to convert. So it was specifically marginalizing a specific group of people. Although Muslims will claim its a substitute for the obligation to serve, which is partially true, but more complicated than this.

>>509146512
You are not reading my post.

>>509146556
It merely regulated their every move, removed preceding culture, entirely changed inheritance and land regulations. Not to mention they started all marrying their first cousins because that was based in the eyes of Arabs.

>>509146575
I agree. It consisted in coalescing previously disorganised looting raids into an imperial project in both instances but the barbarians had very little idea of how to administer an empire so they left the conquered do all the administration provided they fitted within the worldview of the barbarians. Mongols were simply much more tolerant once the initial terror-instilling massacres were over hence much more relaxed on what change of mentality they would impose on their top shabbo slaves.

>>509145753
>Arabs considered people they conquered equal as long as they accepted Islam.
That may have been the ideal, but in the Ottoman lands there was a definite racial pecking order, with pure-blooded Arabs at the top, then Turks/Mameluks, then black Africans.
(And among the Arabs themselves, descendants of the prophet constituted an aristocracy above the general population.)

>>509148056
>Ottoman lands there was a definite racial pecking order, with pure-blooded Arabs at the top

Ottoman Empire was Turk-led. How on Earth were Arabs superior to Turks within it?

>>509147371
Blah blah blah nigger

>>509145428 (OP)
Because colonialism was literally invented to avoid arabs and muslims because they kept chimping out in the silk road.