Would the legalization of guns make things better or worse for your country, and overall personal life?

Good people being disarmed never makes their lives better.

That gun is a piece of shit, btw.

>>509252012 (OP)
> better
The goat fuckers have guns. There are caches in the mosques.

>>509252161
It’s the first pic I found for a pea shooter

>>509252012 (OP)
Depends on the country. I felt fine in Singapore without a gun, but not so easy in Haiti.

>>509252190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8u3rslG3k

>>509252239
Haiti? What were you doing there

>>509252012 (OP)
You know in the united states if you’ve ever gotten in a fight with someone you cant own a gun right?

>>509252340
only if you're convicted of a felony, my retarded friend.

>>509252340
No. Go read form 4473.

>>509252314
Curiosity. I was in the DR for a beach vacation after finishing some work, and saw that they had bus lines going to Port-au-Prince. It was only a 3.5 hour ride. Haiti is an interesting place, but I wouldn't want to return.

>>509252421
nope
misdemeanor assault or domestic battery excludes you from owning a gun
ask me how i know

>>509252494
>domestic battery
That's not "getting into a fight", you fucking wifebeater.

>>509252440
doesnt matter, you get red flagged and are prohibited from purchase

>>509252484
You got balls
The worst place I’ve been is Bangladesh. The people there were not dangerous though

>>509252494
You still have options. Fully-legal options.

>>509252552
domestic violence/battery is getting in a fight with someone you share the same address with

>>509252560
Read the fucking form. It's because you're a wifebeater you can't legally own guns. Not because you've used fisticuffs before.

>>509252596
Domestic violence is a completely separate charge because it is considered far worse.

>>509252012 (OP)
better. if some subhuman spergs out i want the ability to easily put him down on the spot. that way he is gone for good.

>>509252598
>READ LE FORM
i have, and have submitted it before
doesn’t matter
and again, got in a fight with your roommate? can own a gun anymore
keep trying to spin it about women though, its cute

>>509252734
>i have
Then you would know that it's only if you got a FELONY or if you are a WIFEBEATER.
Your initial statement was wrong and the reason you got into a fight with your GF or whatever is because you're a fucking retarded assclown.

>>509252650
and that ignorance of the law is how you can quickly lose your gun rights for the rest of your life

>>509252012 (OP)
I wouldn't want shitalians to have a toothpick, let alone a firearm. This includes Cisalpines.
First we have to get rid of shitaly, then of chaff, foreigners, degenerates, criminals and the likes, after that normal people should not be barred from owning and using most weapons.

>>509252012 (OP)
>If you live in a country with strict gun laws
Then there is no illegal gun ownership
Then there is no gun crime.

>>509253228
>Then there is no illegal gun ownership
You can acquire guns illegally even in countries like China with total civilian firearm bans.

>>509252924
See>>509252806
That may be how you think it works, but in reality if you share an address with someone, get in a fight, the neighbors call the police, you will lose your gun rights

Most are very anti gun here, ironically

i say sell guns and ammo like lemoade in vending machines, no ID-checks, insert money and it comes off. if everyone is armed, robbery, rape and theft will go to almost zero and those who still try will get removed from the living in an instant.

t. living in one of the countries with the most guns worldwide per capita and still not enough, also far too buerocratic to obtain a gun and carrying is almost impossible to get a permit, so you either have to do it illegally or not at all. also no full auto rifles or smgs for normal people without exemption card

arabs and turks with knifes, machetes and whatever are as comon as niggers in the USA though, leftist government says "these are banned" in certrain areas, result is germans wont carry these there, foreigners will (they dont care for the fines) so its even shittier than before

>>509253384
Meant to format as

>>509252806
See>>509252924

>>509252924
Anon, fighting someone in their own home is always worse. If I assaulted you on the street it would be a way less serious charge than if I kicked in your door and then assaulted you inside your house.

>>509252012 (OP)
>>509252239

Statistically in EVERY country the areas where the most citizens have guns are safer than average.

>>509253388
The american equivalent of arabs and turks with knives is niggers with hi-points.
More guns mean more gun crime, and considering these bellends would never be able to make their own, and that the black market is relatively limited, making the purchase of firearms easier would mean more of them in the hands of wogs and imbeciles.

>>509253605
>More guns mean more gun crime
Wrong. The places with the most guns have less crime of all sorts.
The fact that you say "gun crime" like that makes it seem like you only care if someone is killed with a firearm. Are you totally okay with someone being stabbed to death? Killed with a vehicle? Burnt alive? Strangled to death? As long as it's not a gun, you're happy?

>>509253597
just as an aside, i was 17 at the time and the judge told me i could have the misdemeanor dropped if i joined the military lmfao
its a cutesy little trick to get kids to join the machine or be permanently fucked

>>509252012 (OP)
Worse. I hate the thought of muslims with legal guns and trigger happy cops.

>>509253603
I doubt it. The countries with the lowest reliably-recorded murder rates are places like Singapore, Japan, and South Korea.

>>509253715
No, Sherlock. More firearms means that crime involving firearms increases.
Good grief the unschooled imbeciles I have to share this board with.
>Are you totally okay
Stop blabbering
.

>>509253810
Exactly. They already have pepper spray which they carry and routinely use for robberies and their gang bullshit, by the way.
Until they all pend by the neck, things are as they should be.

>>509253924
You are wrong.
The places in the US with the most gun crime are the places with the most restrictive laws.
When the laws were loosened because the SCOTUS forced them to, crime went DOWN.

Actually go look at the data yourself. I wasn't pro-gun when I was young, but I value the truth more than my ego.

>>509254054
Not really true, either. The most dangerous states are the blackest - Louisiana and Mississippi, specifically. The most dangerous city is usually St. Louis, which has Missouri's gun laws.

>>509252560
I'm a felon with restored gun rights faggot.

>>509252012 (OP)
Criminality would be divided by 10 overnight.
Mind you, we have criminals shooting at each other every single week.

>>509254317
How much did it cost you, all in?

>>509253924
kike, no one gives a fuck if a crime is committed with a gun or a fist, so shut the fuck up you retarded little weakling. you're just mad because you can't use either option effectively, fuckin jew pedophile.

>>509254054
>The places in the US with the most gun crime are the places with the most restrictive laws.
I wonder where they could possibly get their guns. Oh right, must be right across state border, still USA.
You seem to have a hard time understanding that "gun crime" is simply crime that somehow involves a firearm. You can have a decrease in overall crime and an increase of firearm crime in the same chronological space.
Should I produce a drawing?
I need a space to discuss things without intermissions from weirdos and idiots.

>>509254433
Cut the babbling mutt. Take your pills and go to sleep, you don't know your ass from your mouth you geyser of shite.

>>509252012 (OP)
better

>>509252484
Story pls

>>509254573
if you were facing me irl you'd be cowering in the corner at the thought of my gun coming up. dumb fuckin jewish child molester, get back to the bris you fuckin faggot you've got another cock to suck, bitch.

>>509254763
LMFAO. Pull your head out of your ass, retard.

>>509254528
Anon, people in PRISON manage to get their hands on guns. Even if your plan was to turn the entire fucking planet into a prison, people would still be armed.

Even if you waved a magic wand and made all firearms vanish, the world would have millions of machine guns again by the end of the week because firearms are a simple technology that people have been making of varying complexity at home since before we knew what electricity was.

Your morals are fake and would only impose on the world conditions where anyone smaller, weaker, sick, injured or elderly doesn't get any rights. Only the biggest, strongest guys who are most willing to inflict physical violence on others would get any benefits from the world. Is that what you want? You have no fucking morals.

>>509254837
how about i pull my cock out of your sister's prolapsed anus you fuckin faggot kike piece of pussy ass little shit? dumb fuckin weak ass nigger bitch, no wonder you have to go after children.

>>509252012 (OP)
guns aren't a problem if they don't get into the hands of poor people.

>>509254856
Most wogs don't own guns here, though like you said many do. I don't want more guns in the hands of wogs or the likes of the unstable imbecile that is shitting up the thread.
Amerimutts, wich includes canadians, have this idea that they can apply whatever belief they have onto reality and then go on a crusade fighting windmills. Neither of you has a clue what I said despite the fact we're all talking in proper English expect for the other raging mutt, it's like talking to toddlers.

>>509254930
You need to be eighteen to post here.

>>509255213
Europe was a much nicer place when men all carried pocket revolvers.

>>509255213
all you said in this thread was admitting you're jewish in various faggy forms, you fuckin pathetic little pedophile. and no one's listening to your pilpul. besides, you don't even have a gun, so you literally have no power over any other man anyways LMAO

>>509252012 (OP)
>Tiny handgun
>Bottleneck rifle cartridges
Which noguns faggot made this pic?

>>509255445
Do you know any gun owners in Australia?

why are amerimutts obsessed with guns

>>509255445
That's an actual product.
For real.
It comes in 5.56, 7.62x39 and probably other stupid chamberings.

If you want a derringer, get a Bond Arms.

>>509255601
because they give us space from fuckin shitskin niggers like you, bitch. shut the fuck up you fat ass spic.

>>509255382
Europe was nicer when the only people here were Europeans, which is my point.
>>509255383
Take your meds you stupid ragin bellend.
I can get legally anything I want in here or close to it, while you have to pay a tax if your piece of shit clown gun is too short.
Get a grip, mongrel.

>>509255861
70% of americans are overweight or obese.

>>509255891
At least they have guns.

>>509255891
70% of americans are HISPANIC. GUESS WHAT? IT'S THE SAME 70%!!!! fuckin DUMB ASS BEANER BITCH!!!!

>>509252012 (OP)
>Would the legalization of guns make things better or worse for your country, and overall personal life?
i'd say it would have zero impact
there's some countries in EU who have "shall issue" gun laws (meaning you can easily get a gun if you pass all the exams and checks) and right next to them there are countries that have zero-tolerance policies for guns (meaning you can't get a gun no matter how much you beg)

And is life radically different between these neighbouring countries? Ehh.... no, not really.

>>509255972
Just need to send all these homeless to where the mosques and keep them there.

>>509256009
that is not true sweetie. and you get the worst types of hispanics. mexicans. literally short brown and fat

>>509252012 (OP)
>Would the legalization of guns make things better or worse for your country
you can own guns here but you need to jump 99 hoops to get one
would probably make it worse with a bunch of retards now packing heat
>personal life?
I live in a quiet middle class suburb with no crime, so no, no effect on my life

I still don't understand how our second amendment isn't even glossed over in primary/secondary school. Seems like if it's going to be our 2A that it should be taught to us young along with everything else.

>>509252229
That's a pistol that shoots 5.56 rifle ammo.

>>509252012 (OP)
>things better or worse for your country
Straight answer is better in the long term. Unfortunately with there being angry English gammons everywhere there would be an extended period of murder and open bloodshed with browns being shot on sight along with innocent people in the way, people who just get on other people's tits and anyone who works for the government. It would be optimistic to think 1/2 the population would survive the bloodshed, but following that, peace and stability would follow.

Ironically the English constitution, which is word for word the Texan constitution, grants every Englishman the right to bare arms and defend his home and property.

>>509255561
Yes, me.

>>509256830
>the right to bare arms
you mean short sleeve shirts, right?

>>509256954
Congrats, I bet that was difficult

>>509255625
>Deringer in 7.62x39
Yeah somebody else can fire that and break their wrist. Those tiny compensator ports aren't going to be enough.

>>509257036
Nah. Way easier than people make it sound. If I didn't own a farm it would be
>Join gun club
>Apply for license
>Wait 28 days
>Go shooting

>>509256759
>>509252229
>>509252161
Is that 556?
Looks more like 5.7x28 (which is trash if not full auto with ap ammo)

>>509252012 (OP)
I am pro gun, with regulation particularly around mental health and crime. But here in the UK, I genuinely think we'd have one the highest homicide rates in the world with guns, for a number of reasons

>>509253605
As the number of armed civilians per Capita goes up the rate of violent crime goes down relative to that country.

>>509257948
Another one that can't read English.

>>509255561
Niggers

>>509253924
>No, Sherlock. More firearms means that crime involving firearms increases.
While total violent crime decreases.
Murders also decrease before you cope about the greater number of incidents representing less intensity per incident. As do robberies. However good an area is, it gets better when everyone is armed.

>>509254216
The negative relation between guns and violent crime holds true across races, the relationship just becomes exponentially clearer when you account for race.

>>509258193
Is any mutt capable of comprehending text? I don't wan't wogs with firearms, which are overall more lethal than the shitty Opinels they are getting at the moment.
Like negroes with guns? Enjoy them, you got plenty.

>>509254528
If one county has 99 guns per 100 people and the next has 1 gun per 100 people and the second county has ten times the violent crime, I don't care that they blame their crime on their heavily armed and happy neighbors.

>>509255213
Statistically your shit hole would be nicer if everyone owned guns and that's an irrefutable fact.

>>509256653
>you can own guns here but you need to jump 99 hoops to get one
Jump through hoops, bring friends and family shooting so they become addicted and jump through the hoops and you gradually keep building up more political power to loosen the laws.

>>509257141
It has such a tiny barrel you do not get rifle like power, in fact you barely get pistol like power. Most of the powder just dumps out of the front of the gun, producing zero recoil.

>>509252012 (OP)

Much worse....I don't need to worry about random bullets unless I walking in forest at hunting season.

>>509258451
>>509258528
An irrefutable fact you pulled out of your ass, since it's nothing but your speculation.
If you want to get the fat mongrels riled up, simply mention something they might see as negative about muh guns.
This is because for mutts, guns represent power. A useless lardass has negligible power, thus needing some kind of implement to form the perception they have any, and consequentially influence their self worth.

>>509257440
Yes. They call it the Pocket AR.
https://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/par1-guns/

It sucks. Don't buy it unless you collect shit guns.

>>509252012 (OP)
Probably better, gun control doesn't work unless your entire population lives in a small island where nothing can be smuggled

>>509257440
5.7 copper solids (civilian legal ammo that is not officially classed "AP") will punch straight through a level IIIA soft armor panel capable of stopping a shotgun slug or a 44magnum round without backface deformation likely to result in serious injury.

>>509257775
Universal gun ownership quickly removes those you'd be trying and failing to "screen" for with your gay regulations.

>>509258731
Anon, you can manufacture firearms yourself.
That's been the situation in Australia for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH76VoI_hsw
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-04/3d-printed-guns-rising-australia-semi-automatic/104538082

I could shoot the pitbulls and their scummy owners

>>509258056
What I said is an absolute fact, I don't actually care what pilpul weaseling you're involved in and what technicalities you're trying to paint as relevant, it's never the wrong time to state the basic incontrovertible facts about the situation.

More guns in civilian hands is better.

>>509259018
>It's never wrong
>It never happened
You're an idiot.

>>509258436
>I don't wan't wogs with firearms
As civilian gun ownership goes up, total violent crime goes down.

What you want is a meaningless thing because it doesn't lead to a meaningful outcome.

>>509258671
>Seething womanly screeching when faced with reality

More guns means less murder, sorry.

>>509259097
More incoherent babbling from Mr "I did eat breakfast today" lol.

>>509252806
HEYYY BB JIRL

>>509259104
>>509259159
More mutt lardass fantasies. Stop shitting up the thread.

>>509259227
Show me any statistic about an increase of guns in italy causing crimes to go down.
You can't, because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>509252012 (OP)
Depends if there's a lot of criminal activity or not. If there's a lot of crime, guns just amplify the optics.

>>509257025
I understand amerifarts write bear arms as the arms of a bear, but in English as spoken by the English who invented English and wrote tomes in English, we write bare because we pronounce it bare with a silent e as the modifier to phonetic a. When we say bear, we are saying be-ar with flat consonants, which phonetically would be beh- arh.

Amerilards don't learn phonics, they don't recognise phonetic groupings, and they fail to correctly pronounce words, leading to a great difficulty for them to apply grammatical rules with any consistency, hence why spellings differ as they attempt to 'spell as they say".

I can present you with miriad examples of this but I suspect you didn't make your post to discuss English grammar.

>>509252012 (OP)
armed to the teeth murkan-- just trying to stay upright in this shithole.

>>509256411
>im not like the other shitskins
every fuckin dumb ass wetback says the same shit, well guess what retard? in cali wali we have every type of fucking beaner there is, YOU'RE LITERALLY ALL THE SAME SUBHUMAN SHIT. you sound like a fuckin jeet right now, 'OHH SARR IT'S ACTUALLY THE PAKISTANI AND BANGLADESHIS!!!!' you fucking shitskins are too fuckin stupid to fool any white people, so just shut the fuck up bitch.

>>509258890
You say that as if keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and those with poor mental health is a bad thing. If you want uncontrolled guns and the opportunity to kill those you don't want having guns in the first place, campaign for it, lets see how it unfolds, I can use your retarded country as a testing ground for my own retarded country. But thats just fantasy of course, your country is a cesspit, just like mine is, one with guns, one without (by on large)

>>509259335
If you look at a region by region, district by district breakdown of Italian murder and violent crime per capita and compare it to the same map measuring the number of civilian guns owned per capita, the same negative relationship that exists in every single country appears like magic. As you account for more factors such as the presence of foreigners the negative relationship only gets steeper.

>>509252012 (OP)
the criminals will use the guns more often if theyre freely available. the law abiding citizens will not use them.
best example is america where 120 people get shot every day and 66 shoot themselves every day.
more guns means more deaths. more guns dont mean less deaths. its paranoid behaviour to stack guns to avoid being shot.
this is not how it works, you cant give every random idiot a gun. this is insane.

>>509259429
Reminder that American English is 100x closer to the regular, normal traditional English of the past, and all Bong accents are crude mutations of various fashionable "posh" accents, mostly invented by freemasons and Frenchmen.

>>509252012 (OP)
Guns should only be legal for Whites.

>>509259752
Do it, don't talk. Do it. And don't forget the black market gun, which can only be speculatively counted.
Good grief you mongrels are the same as shitjeets, you need to get the fuck off the internet and be corralled to your own.

>>509259674
We already ran the experiment of no gun regulation for like 100 years and it produced less violent crime less murder and less mass murder per capita.

>>509259770
actually it's insane, moronic, unnatural, retarded, gay, and jewish to not own a weapon as a grown man. literally throughout all of history men have kept and maintained the most useful weapons of the era, you fucking cucked faggot bitch.

>>509259909
It's true in every country and you're terrified that if you ever looked it up you'd see I'm absolutely right lmao.

The gunniest parts of every country are the safest, sorry.

>>509259909
we literally invented the internet, kike, and you're free to fuck off any time you like. faggot. so do everybody a fuckin favor and shut the fuck up already, little bitch.

>>509252012 (OP)\
Heizer Defense Pocket AK
>holds one round
>shoots rifle caliber (7.62X39mm)
>only $150
It's like the Little Caesar's of guns.

>>509252012 (OP)
Depends on how strict. Generally, the more illegal having gun is, the more criminals have them and citizens do not.
It's ONLY when the government is willing to execute people for having firearms that it starts to even out, which very few do.

>>509252494
I know that you live in a faggot state like Fagafornia or Jew York.

>>509252560
faggot state

>>509252596
faggot state

>>509252734
faggot state

>>509252924
faggot state

>>509253384
faggot state

>>509259770
Lmao

>>509258831
Thanks, but I need something that will btfo level iv

>>509259991
and now youre 80% mexican because you all got shot dead.
today 120 were shot and 66 killed themselves. its a steady decline for you because of your guns.
you get mad over it because youre stupid and paranoid wanting to defend yourself against imagined enemies that are everywhere.

>>509260076
Post them.
>>509260094
You invented fuck all. You can't write in proper English, can't understand what you yourself write, you're a useless bag of lard shitting up every place you traslate your gross ungodly body to, akin to how an indian stinks any place they visit. Take your meds.

>>509260286
then you have no clue how to use a gun. all i need is a 10mm, half the mag into your chest to drop you to the floor and then one more to polish you off. only time i need anything bigger is if you're coming at me from 100 yards away.

>>509258704
Thanks
So why specifically does it suck?

>>509260302
>traslate
Transfer, whatever

>>509260421
You're a retard

I need to deal with 1000 man armies with level iv

>>509260296
>everybody who gets shot in america is white
nice argument moron, you just disgraced yourself again with the full extent of that jewish iq on display, faggot.

>>509260515
punk, you'd be dead before you even SAW any of us coming. don't KID yourself. in fact, you might as well just DISARM and move to CALI WALI already, FAGGOT!! maybe GAVIN NEWSOM WILL KEEP YOU SAFE!!!!

>>509260421
8 shooter?

>>509260543
youre 80% mexican, how exactly did all these white people not get shot dead?
you sit here trying to justify insanity like retards, because thats what you are.

the guns will stay in your shithole and you will be shot dead with it. the end.

>>509260286
You said 5.7 was bad outside of AP rounds and your justification is it doesn't beat NIJ IV? 5.7 ap won't do that, neither will most 5.56 AP, or .308 AP.

Level four is a rating defined by stopping standard issue .308 AP

>>509252012 (OP)
what would change but the crime rate?

>>509260302
>Spoon feed me
Look it up turbo nigger.

>>509260286
Shoot them in the dick.

>>509260758
And good riddance.

>>509260658
>He wants Gavin to keep him safe from me
It's ok, your co knows to stay out of my way

Tell her I said to get you a new diaper

>>509260819
Again? It's not there.

>>509260758
keep dreaming, asshole, anyone who tries to shoot me is going to die. fuckin KIKE.

>>509260779
Your interjecting on an entirely different conversation, please return to the proper reply chain

Also I read it was 30-06 AP not 308

>>509258704
other than claiming you have nato in your pants what's the point?

>>509260928
she was too busy fucking your faggot father up the ass again at the local glory hole, why dont you try emailing it to her? fuckin pussy.

>>509260543
mutts are eternally mad that theyre all retards and the only smart people in america are jews. this is why they hate them all day long like stupid little retards, because thats what they are.
gorillas are smarter than the average american and youre mad about it. its no one else problem but your own.

>>509260423
It's a single round so underpowered you'd be better off with a regular pistol, it's unreliable, has a clunky trigger, inaccurate even at close range, and you have zero chance of reloading it if you miss or your one underpowered shot doesn't instantly kill. There are two shot derringers just as small and just as powerful or even moreso with reliable safe builds and comparably better triggers and grips.

The "pocket AK" is also considered unsafe because of the exaggerated amount of space between the case and the chamber wall, which in a regular gun would cause it to damage itself or explode, but the tiny barrel seems to create such little useful pressure in haven't heard of any examples of them destroying themselves despite this glaring manufacturing error.

>>509261122
so you admit to being jewish, that's an important first step in getting help for your pedophilia.

>>509261086
I was already doing you a favor getting you a spare, I'm not doing all of the work for you. Have fun sitting in your own fear poop

>>509261132
Oh LMAO
Thanks for explaining

>>509261021
Standard issue .308 AP is identical in penetration to most military issue 30-06 AP loads. I'm not familiar with any IV plates that fail to normal .308 AP in the same spot they'll stop 30-06 AP.

Swiss P and other boutique Gucci tungsten AP rounds have superior performance, but that has more to do with the design of the AP core than the powder charge of the bullet.

>>509261235
ive never taken a shit in my fuckin life, im not a KIKE.

Countries with the tightest gun control are invariably totalitarian.

>>509261206
Yes, muttanon, we're all jewish pedophiles working for the mossad. How do you keep outsmarting us in your brown-stained boxers and ily tank top? We are investing billions in destroying genius-level americans like you, yet you completely foil our plans each time by calling us bad names on the internet!

>>509261429
Only a kike would waddle around with a giant poop buttplug

>>509252012 (OP)
now that niggers have flooded my country,
would be WAY worse

>>509261206
paranoid mutt, youre a retard!

>>509261410
>Swiss P and other boutique Gucci
Please educate me in these words and this subject

What will btfo an army with level iv

>>509252494
you can just buy a black powder revolver since it isn't considered a firearm in your country. I think you can even make a cartridge conversion and it still won't be considered a firearm.

>>509258704
>>509261061
This is the kind of simple idiot proof gun that the Allies dropped into Nazi occupied France, for the resistance to use.

>>509260188
Niggers aren't people.
Your chart only works in white countries.
Although, niggers kill each other 99% of the time, so if you subtract them from the death numbers the chart become accurate again.

>>509262110
You may not like it, but the P90 + Five seveN is what peak performance looks like.

Also the kel tec pmr30

>>509262605
There's a reason multiple agencies stopped using the p90.
5.7 is a meme round. It only works when you're mag dumping someone
theres too much over penetration
And it's basically a 9mm

>>509262933
For use against civilians I can see pverpenetration being bad. For the military it's great.

>>509252012 (OP)
if you ever travel through Europe on your own, you're going to need one of these along with a permit
police won't help, they're probably told to stand, bud of mine got assaulted and police just shrugged it off after the arab ran off and told him to get a pepper spray, lol
Romanians also have a tendency to act unhinged, very much like that lifeguard situation and crowd you, so a weapon would definitely help
I mean in Romania it would end up in a bloodbath due to everything being corrupt, but it's still better than just maintaining a crap status quo that does not help anyone in the least and that nobody is interested in changing because they're making bank
I'm 100% pro-gun ownership (but I'm a little biased by experience because government services here are worse than junk, people literally tell you to NOT talk to them because they're so bad, otherwise sure, I wouldn't have minded to let them solve issues and get their own hands dirty, lol, same difference)

>>509252012 (OP)
it all comes down to the actual legal system.
does a gun make you really feel safe if its a 50/50 toss up whether or not you'll go to jail for 20 years if you get a bad judge or jury?
up here we dont even have castle laws. if someone breaks into your house and you assault them with a weapon, the aspect of break and enter will not be considered when sentencing you.
there is a famous case where a guys dog bit an intruder and he got sued and lost,
no, i would trade a functional police force and judicial system for concealed carry %100 of the time.

>>509265088
Ford is actually talking about castle law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg-vcgGR73M

>>509259770
>law abiding citizens will not use them
they need to be educated then
>where 120 people get shot every day and 66 shoot themselves every day
these are self-resorted statistics that are not double-checked by any agency
at this rate, Finland is more dangerous than Romania, which is absolutely ridiculous
it's just that Romania doesn't bother to report the real rate, report much less or even do not even know of stuff going on due to generalized incompetence
>more guns means more deaths
it's a potato argument and it doesn't reflect statistics anyway >>509260188
but more importantly it is uttered by someone that didn't even look up a gun
first they're expensive, your average north african individual that is about to "enrich" you will not dish out USD2000 for a proper stick
they'll literally use a rock, if possible
>muh the people
I mean, okay, it's tidy and neat if you've never had any trouble in your life but an unhinged chimpanzee (and I don't mean necessarily black) that might just be an alcoholic abuser and whatever else is just simply not worth in terms of life than everyone else, like say, Albert Einstein
I know, I know, that pisses off the classics but no, exchange a knight for a peon and you literally lost something much more valuable

>>509252012 (OP)
We have gun laws they are bit retarded but not bad. If it was just like in US for example it would be worse here because our laws around other things are fucking retarded. It's not even worth having gun here since using it, in serious defense would still land you in a jail.

>>509252340
I heard if you ask the cops if they’re cops they have to tell you or else they are lying. Plenty of southern states will restore your gun rights even after a violent felony.

>>509265088
Cuck. Niggers do 80% of all crime.

>>509252012 (OP)
I would much rather see the ol' guillotine be legal again or public flogging/pillory, maybe lynching..

>>509265324
>in serious defense would still land you in a jail
also Eastern block
it's a non-sequitur judgement
more than often it really just comes down to either you or them
so you'll literally chose between
a.) getting killed
b.) spending time in jail
and I mean, just mathematically, you'd go for jail
also, the situation tilts heavily towards killing when we're not just pretending to be tough guys and when you actually have a family, kids, etc, when you are actually morally-obliged to defend something or someone other than you
>t. Soviet dialectics were meant to keep conquered territories servile, not advance them in any way

>>509265481
If you put a webcam next to the pillory, you can sell the porn of people running a train on them.

>>509265569
Seriously i rather die then spending 25 years in jail. Yes but if it comes to that if i had family meaning kids and wife obviously i would use gun 0 problems but i don't. Woman here are mentally retarded children.

>>509260119
>P50
A
0 parts availability

I wanted it but will not be buying but or anything keltek
I've even canned and has then put in a request to sell parts, they says they get call often and the company just won't do it.
It's been over a year, I just checked, you still can't buy parts.
The charging handle is flimsy every metal, when it be da, you have to mail it back to keltek to fix, if they even will. Ice heard is people bending it

I'm just going to rip off the design and machine one myself

>>509252012 (OP)
worse

>>509265384
yankie reading comprehension is astounding
>>509265170
you are still going to get dragged through a legal battle that will last possibly years while the worst scum bag lawers working pro bono will do everything in their power to twist every nano second of the encounter on you,
im not saying we shouldn't have guns or the ability to carry them in public, but the laws and systems are set up to make this as un attractive as an option as possible

>>509259876
Amazing that nothing you wrote here is true. I appreciate the amerifart ego requires certain levels of delusion to satisfy its inferiority complex, by why peddle such falsehoods?
>>509260094
>we literally invented the internet
Usually Tm Berners-Lee is credited with the internets invention.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
>>509261122
Kek.

>>509252012 (OP)
Things would get rather Brazilian, Chicagoesque out there

>>509265665
>Seriously i rather die then spending 25 years in jail.
I wouldn't bet more on the future than the present, especially in the heat of the moment
jail isn't all that bad, you don't know the future but you do know the present
>i would use gun 0 problems
like remember those webms
there used to be two videos that I liked
one with some lady disarming some guy at a pedestrian crossing and shooting him because he was about to jump someone
and one woman that was about to be raped in a garage (IIRC?) but managed to pull the gun and ice the guy
superb, it's so cathartic I can masturbate to that alone and I wager everyone would given that the situation was clear and the attacker's intentions were clear
wish I had those clips stored, just glorious

>>509265948
Malicious prosecution suits.

>>509265665
>jail
it's a very special situation for Eastern Europe though
police here are closer to their original mandate of class seggregation
like police here will effectively tip off or let criminals have their way with the population while being fully aware just to pacify people, "teach people a lesson" (judge, jury and executioner) or even sow dissent
it's not about "justice", it's just institutionalized population control so in serious situations, you just cannot rely on THAT to resolve an issue that is more along the lines of life-or-death

>>509266391
all im saying is that our legal system is set up to punish law abiding citizens,
any case like that is going to drag on for years while you are in jail under no certainty that you'll actually win,

>>509253810
>Worse. I hate the thought of muslims with legal guns and trigger happy cops.


Would you like a dick with that spine you don’t have

>>509266221
>In 1989, CERN was the largest Internet node in Europe and Berners-Lee saw an opportunity to join hypertext with the Internet
really, so he invented the internet while working in a place that was already using it? this is why no one takes anglokikes seriously you fuckin faggot ass little pedophile. do you even hear how gay you sound you fucking moron? again, the US military invented the internet, it was a darpa project.

>>509259674
>>509259770
>>509259335
The problem is that you need to get rid of your shitskins and ban immigration and start violently and brutally publicly executing violent criminals

>>509252012 (OP)
I'd feel safer if I had a gun non-whites are becoming violent not to mention the junkies

>>509266391
You'll never get a lawyer or a suit filed in time
>>509267010
Kill cops and judges

>>509252012 (OP)
New Zealand - it'd make things worse as it puts more guns in the hands of retards. Sure currently some bad folk have em but they're the minority so you will rarely ever come across someone with a gun. If its legal, it will become a common occurrence. One tard that's drunk and impulsive will do a lot less damage without a gun. If weapons were more widespread already aka USA then yeah making guns legal makes more sense

>>509252012 (OP)
More guns = more gun violence. If you need guns to be safe, then the area you're living in isn't safe.

Reminder that guns are 100% banned for civilian ownership in the EU, with the exception...of Muslims. Muslims are constitutionally allowed to own and carry guns. Not even joking, that's written into multiple EU states' laws.

They're technically allowed to murder as well, that's just not on-paper yet, so it's more of an unspoken policy.

>>509270164
Wrong.
Niggers make areas unsafe.
If there were no niggers, then the need for firearms would be low.
I wouldn't have a problem with a reduction in firearms in the US if all shitskins and kikes were dead.

>>509252012 (OP)
My country is fucked in the head about guns. They will never lessen the strictness they have for them. Bears can actually come out of the woods and eat people here and no one even tries to bring forth more relaxed gun legislation. The licensing system is ridiculously convoluted. I'd rather make a black powder shotgun at home, like the Abe slayer.

>>509252012 (OP)
thinking about getting a lever action gun for self defense
should i get it in 444 marlin, 40-70 or 30-30?

>>509252586
you will still be a felon with a weapon; just because there is no background check doesnt mean its legal to possess

>>509252012 (OP)
>If you live in a country with strict gun laws
>Would the legalization of guns make things better or worse for your country, and overall personal life?
They are already legal. There's a legal process you have to go thru to buy them.

And actually I wouldn't want out laws to be like the US because I wouldn't want retards and niggers having access to guns. It's still very hard for them to get a hold of one. There are many things I'd change, like being able to carry legally, not having to get a "transport permit", faster purchase, online purchase of ammo, no ammo storage restriction, etc etc. But still there should be a hard discriminating process to veto niggers from guns.

pic rel my guns, so you know i'm not some noguns talking out of the ass.