Thread 509320978

Who's that?

>yeah but look this dood
oof.

>>509321058
Trump and ADL are funding another republican to primary Thomas Massie.

>>509321107
>Yum yum jew cum

>>509320978 (OP)
>noooooo, the kikes say he's finished
zion don strikes again kek

>>509320978 (OP)
I kneel to Massie. how the fuck is Trump going to recover?

>>509321107
these are literally Trump tactics being used against Trump

>>509320978 (OP)
>Massie is a bad goy, a very bad goy!

>Kaplan
Oy vey!

>>509321174
You didn't answer my question. Who tf is this Thomas Massie? Stop talking about this no name like everybody's supposed to know him.

>>509320978 (OP)
he absolutely dunked on that kike

didnt massie flip to pro trump after we didnt go to war with iran?

>>509321107
he should have said
>Look at this guy. Bad. He looks like he needs a hamburger and a shower. If he was my pollster, he'd be the best.

>>509320978 (OP)
Massis is Sassy™

LOL... that's true. Is it mean to be honest?

>>509321430
There are threads about him every day. Get your head out of your ass.

>>509321430
Ah, I thought you were asking about the other guy. Thomas Massie is like Ron Paul but antisemitic. Zion Don hates him so much that he is funding somebody more MIGA.

>>509320978 (OP)
Shots fired
Missles launched
Burn City, USA
Pwnz0r3d
Dissed
Anal devastation

>>509321504
This is almost impossible to believe but some people are capable of considering each issue separately.

>>509321504
Considering there’s many other things they seem to disagree on I’m guessing no.
Besides, trump started all this because Massie wasn’t backing his big bill

>>509320978 (OP)
Shoulda sucked the Jew cock stupid fucking goy

>>509321430
>Thomas Massie
He is an elected official in the federal government of the untied states of america as a house representative for the state of kentucky. His opinions hold national importance.
His reelection is a referendum on the importance of israel in the america first movement. If he gets reelected it will do to post-trump political landscape what trump did to the pre-trump landscape.
America First non-pro-israel republicans WILL win elections. Every AmericaFirst candidate who starts talking about israel will get told to go back to talking about america.

Can't out-sassy the Massie

>>509321640
>like Ron Paul but antisemitic

>>509321648
>>509321684
Sure. OK. So is the entire massie-trump feud based on iran and bbb? and then iran is over so it's all about bbb now?

>>509321430
A US representative from Kentucky who is reasonable and patriotic.
In March 2024 he voted against a bill that would have given more money to Israel. In June Massie's wife died. As far as I know the cause of death was never made public.

>>509321684
The Trump stuff is a reaction to Massie posting on Twitter and doing interviews (tucker carlson, etc) which highlighted Israel's parasitic attachment to the U.S.

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie winning will be the much needed reality check boomer Trump needs.

>>509321430
>I'm on a politics board to attack people for knowing who a politician is
kikes really aren't as intelligent as they claim to be

>>509322077
Good lord that's one hideous jew

>>509321979
>>509322035
I guess that's this video.
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-thomas-massie

>>509321430
Your cheeto god talks about him constantly

>>509322035
did he provide any evidence of this?

>>509320978 (OP)
JEW CUM GUZZLER BTFO ETERNALLY

>>509322173
nice

>>509322225
Trump still cheap.

>>509322128
rekt

>>509322268
How do you prove it? It would take the FBI / DHS investigating. And what are the odds FBI / DHS would work to expose Israeli interference in the US political system? Zero

>>509322268
It's a reasonable claim, I don't think anyone has denied it.
https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

>>509321430
only non-uniparty member in congress

>>509322337
He doesn't have to spend money, he only has to appear in a video saying he endorses him.

>>509321058
(((Doug Kaplan)))

>>509321430
>gimme gimme gimme
No, do your own goddamned research, you lazy fuck.

>>509321430
read a book!

>>509322394
so i just believe him despite him giving exactly zero reason to believe it?
same thing with this post:
>>509322128
he doesn't actually provide an answer, he just shifts to an ad hominem. which tells me Massie has fully adopted the woke-right.

>509321430
imagine having this retard on your country, never mind, there's plenty like this here too.

>>509321430
nobody can be this retarded

>>509322629
What the fuck is the woke right? Its meant as a pejorative for people on the conservative side who express displeasure with Israel. Its a manufactured, new meme

>>509322629
You believe him because no one bothered to sue him for slander. You can look up how many candidates have been aided by aipac. They freely publish how often they get their candidates elected and brag about it. Why be such a gaslighting little faggot? We know the game you retards are playing trying to flood this board with an alternative false consensus. Problem is, we can sniff out your retarded posting patterns a mile away.

>>509322629
>woke-right
What does this mean?

>>509322629
>muh woke right
You guys keep trying to force this meme. It won't work. It's kinda pathetic how bad jewish brainwashing has become. You have lost your edge

>>509321892
>Iran is over
Oh sweet summer child. Israel wants the US to go to war with Iran so Israel is going to get exactly that. If not under Zion Don then under the next guy.

>>509322077
This kike 4’9”? Hes got sausage dwarf hands

>>509322838
>you lost, tranny
>I voted for this
>that's brown-coded
>he's woke-right
>Jews are based and redpilled
>Israel is the greatest country in the world
>India gives full support to Israel and Jews
Probably all coming from a small jewish NGO coordinating an office of jeets to shill on the internet all day.

>>509320978 (OP)
Sheesh!

>>509322629
>Unironically saying "woke right"
You are literally Jewish.

>>509322629
Its clearly a vertical housing building you fucking smelly kike

>>509321892
>and then iran is over
the issue is that he's lead by the nose by kikes, and that's not "over." it's only because of heavy pressure from the likes of tucker carlson, and because israel asked for a ceasefire that we're not in a war. trump remains a retarded puppet for kikes.

>>509322892
his words wouldn't qualify as legal slander even if they weren't true. that isn't evidence of his claim at all.
>>509322920
post-gamergate right-wingers who want to use MAGA to achieve leftist goals.

>>509322920
It's a term they invented that basically means everyone in the right who doesn't suck kike dick all day and reject pajeet immigration.

>>509323084
Its probably something very similar, no joke

>>509321430
Seriously fucking kill yourself

>>509322629
>woke right mentioned
Based and credible

>>509322629
>Yes but standards suddenly!
Nope. The state of israel pays intelligence agents and contractors to go on the internet and influence discourse. That is the initial violation of intellectual honesty. It is appropriate to respond by pointing this out and not engaging with their deflections

>>509321892
What exactly is your angle? He didn’t like trump being hawish on Iran, so he liked trump being peaceful on Iran. Where’s the inconsistency? How fucking ridiculous are you?

>>509322920
we're woke because we dont suck faggot cock and love niggers

>>509323152
is it impossible for a terrorist organization to use a residential building?

>>509323227
Stop drinking leftist liquid

>>509321107
Trump's favorite move.

>>509320978 (OP)
It's all political theatre

>>509320978 (OP)
What does the J in Donald J. Trump stand for?

>>509320978 (OP)
Thomas Massie is literally the ONLY uncorrupted White man in the entire Congress
Everybody else voted for more White money for israel

>>509321107
Hes using Trumps garbage ad hominem attack tactics only hes less cringe than Trump at it

>>509320978 (OP)
Thomas “Infinite Browns Massie
Thomas “I’m a traitor” Massie
Thomas “Iranian cocksucker” Massie

>>509323227
>ignoring the rest of the post
Typical jewish tactics

>>509323422
It's cringe when others try to copy it. Massie has never shit talked in his life.

>>509323313
This is just typical woke-right ad hominem. You guys never provide any evidence if your claim and never explain inconsistencies when they are pointed out. Instead you always just retreat to ad hominem, as if just saying "Jew!" is a legitimate argument. The truth can defend itself, it's only lies that have to hide behind fallacies.

>>509323227
What "leftist goals" does the "woke right" want to achieve?

>>509322135
Which is exactly why it wont fucking happen. Theyll sink millions into destroying the guy or they will ultimately make him bow to trump like a cuck faggot somehow in the end. There is no light at the end of this 3 and a half year tunnel...

>>509323616
You are a pajeet shill, drop your memeflag

>>509322482
yet only votes with democrats

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie is based. I did t like elon but if trump doesnt maybe he is ok now?

>>509323475
Yass gave him the maximum individual politic contribution like 2.5k. Utterly irrelevant amount of money Massie wouldn't have even attributed to him.

>>509322268
>there is no evidence of jewish involvement in government
kek get a load of this kike

>>509323616
Massie just comes up with any excuse to avoid dealing with the immigration issue.

It's a consistent pattern

>>509323475
Stop poisoning the well. Yass donated to massie because of his financial interests in tiktok. He has donated to all those who have spoken out against the tiktok expropriation.

>>509322268
dirty, filthy, disgusting fucking jew
the only cure for jewish blood is death

>>509323616
I thought you said Massie was "woke right"? Isn't the woke right anti-immigration?

>>509323699
3rd world imported labor
free trade

>>509321430
Some guy from Kentucky. Not relevant unless you live in Kentucky.

>>509323988
Are you retarded?
Since when do fascists want shitskin immigration and free trade?
LMAO

>>509321430
Future president of united states

>>509323859
i didn't say that. i said massie did not give any evidence of his claim that every member of Congress except for him has an AIPAC handler.

>>509321107
It's literally a zionist jew.

>>509322128
Kek. Nose side veiws of jews will never not be funny

>>509322629
>woke right

Oh, you mean the right leaning people who want to censor ALL critisism of israel and jews? The ones who call ANYONE who disagrees with ANYTHING they say an (((antisemite))) or a pedophile or a groomer or a tranny (much like how the wokies would call anyone who disagreed with them a nazi/racist/sexist/whatever buzzword of the minute)? The ones who set up cancel mobs and try to get people fired for criticizing israel or jews?

Do you mean THAT woke right? Because I dont know, that sounds pretty fucking woke to me.

>>509323988
You're a retard

>>509320978 (OP)
My sides, Massie the best

>>509322629
>woke right
Hello, kike.

>>509323988
You think the "woke right" wants 3rd world imported labor and free trade? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HOLY SHIR YOU RETARDS CANT EVEN COME UP WITH A IDEOLOGICALLY SOUND SCAPEGOAT LMFAO. YEEEAH ALL THOSE ANTIJEW NAZI FREE TRADE PRO IMMIGRATION CAPITALISTS LMAO HOLY FUCK WHAT EVEB US THIS? DID YOU RETARDS EVEN BOTHER TO SCRIPT THIS PART OF YOUR ARGUMENT?

>>509324036
they've been arguing and voting against any effort to curb immigration. the whole "im so racist look at me i say nigger online!" is just a front. it's like when reddit trannies call people gay. they don't actually want less sodomy, they just use it as a smear against people

>>509321430
>anonomous poster
>who the fuck is this guy
(Thomas massie) no named loser
Um. Are you full blown retqrded? You.literally said his name while.hiding yours

>>509324320
holy kek you have to be meming

>>509323475
Every fucking german flag is a jew here, what a fucking disgrace.

>>509322077
whenever i see a kike my mind just subconsciously inserts a yarmulke onto their head, it's like their hair becomes such a perfect nest for it that you can't see them without it on.

>>509323336
I'm not arguing. I'm asking questions because I dont know all the details.

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie is a traitor and a woke right faggot. Deport him to El Salvador, and strip him of US citizenship.
Trump will win, as he always does.
Ultimate MAGA!

>>509322629
Go away jew nigger, nobody wants you here.

>>509320978 (OP)
Kek fight fight!

>>509322629
I didn't need thomas massie to tell me that israel sends their agents to argue on the internet and bombs civilians in palestine. They brag about it in other context's

Look at this dysgenic, fat faggot with his pink diabetic cheeks. Someone should buy him Ozempic.

Being woke is being the kike bitch slave, not the contrary.

>>509322268
do you have fucking eyes? do you not see it playing out pretty firmly and obvious on a regular basis?

>>509321430
Kek the shills are upset
Eat shit losers
Massie for President!

Orange epstein btfo

>>509321430

okay Rabbi but it wont work

why is he a bad guy?

>>509324433
All the good Germans died in WW2 either fighting or after surrendering.
There are no good Germans alive today.

>>509325087
then it should be really easy for him to provide some evidence. name some names, give an examples. DC is a one party consent state, so he should have some recordings of people saying: "i have to talk to my AIPAC guy before i do that."

>>509325158
can y'all massie supporters show me even one thing massie ever did to slow or stop the browning of america?

>>509326065
>y’all
Zozzle at least try next time you niggerfaggot

>>509323520
ye

>>509324724
>>509325001
>jews have vpns
And one day all they’ll have is fire

>>509326188
That's a no

>>509324320
I am arguing for
1) killing all the jews
2) deporting all the non-whites

Do you need it any clearer than that?

>>509320978 (OP)
>Doug Kaplan
>Kaplan is a common Jewish (Ashkenazic) surname derived from the Yiddish word kaplan, meaning "chaplain"

>>509326188
Why can't you just answer the question? Why do you insist on nitpicking and personal attacks?

>>509324503
yo. me too! can someone explain this??

>>509325465
There are some good ones in South America but they're ultimately being fucked over by the brown government that taxes them to death to pay for all the nons, and on top of that economically mismanages everything even with all the huge natural resource they have to point of getting massive inflation
And they stay in their little enclaves because its literally worse than being in a warzone to be in cities of South America
Like I'm not kidding you were safer in Kabul during the war in Afganistan than you are in Sao Paolo Brazil in "peace" time.

>>509326908
I often think about how the world could have been if in 2nd century AD hadrian had finished the job and killed off all the jews.

Communism, never invented. Trannyism, nobody would have even thought of such thing. Multiculturalism, what a ridiculous idea.

Black slavery outside Africa would have never existed, the Negro would have stayed there.
100% of the slave traders were jewish, as were the overwhelming majority of slave owners.

Today we even think about Caribbean nations like Jamaica or Haiti as crime-ridden filthy nigger shitholes, even though not a single nigger even belongs there.
Those Caribbean are absolutely stunning in natural beauty and could have been amazing had they been White countries.

Same with South America, filled with natural beauty and natural resources, but ever since jews salted Americas with poisonous jewish and negro blood, and sometimes a combination of this as jews had a habit of raping their slaves, it doomed the future of entire continents.
Just imagine if the jew never existed and not a single drop of jewish or negro blood would exist in Americas or Caribbean. What it could have been.

>>509321430
I can't wait for Massie to be the first US president who starts his term by hanging all zionist kikes. It's going to be so awesome 2028 can't get here soon enough.

>>509323488
Jewcumguzzler

>>509321107
Denounce the Talmud, rabbi.

>>509320978 (OP)
>Kaplan

>>509326965
>>509327460
Nice fantasies.

>>509328552
Yeah you unfortunately can't fix the damage that the jews have done.
Like let's say Jamaica, or Haiti, they're so nigger filled shitholes that people actually think niggers belong there.
They're beyond saving and the nature is destroyed by negro garbage, its beyond saving.

All we can do is make the jew pay for what it has done, and eradicate the jew and its ideas like multiculturalism and trannyism to make sure they dont do any more damage in the future
If the jew doesnt get killed and gets its way, there wont be a nation on Earth untouched by the brown plague

>>509323988
If you really feel compelled to shit up 4chan than make some effort to post in good faith. It's boring otherwise.

>>509320978 (OP)
MASSIVE SET MASSIE

>>509321430
He is the guy on the KFC basket.

>>509328850
Speaking of Haiti, pic related.
But to be fair Britain and Ireland suffered the same fate from pale niggers.

Fuck trump

>>509321107
I mean he legitimately looks like he just got off a five day bender
I wouldn’t trust anything that dude says either

>>509321334
That doesn't bode well for anybody attacking Trump.
Trump's a New Yorker so his kind of banter works for him. Massie looks like he's stuck in the early 2000's with that $30 haircut. Looks like he's wants to be a part of a boy band.

>>509321334
Yeah MIGA fags cant handle the heat, its great.

>>509320978 (OP)
MASSIE/PAUL 2028
THE KENTUCKY CONNECTION
make it trend !

>>509329458
MASSIE /PAUL 2028
THE KENTUCKY CONNECTION

>>509329541
<3
The
KENTUCKY CONNECTION

>>509323800
bullshit

I have yet to hear -
1. Why Trump thinks this bill is a good idea
2. Why Musk thinks this bill is a bad idea
3. Why Trump thinks Musk is wrong
4. Why Musk thinks Trump is wrong

>>509329256
Massie and his followers have never seen a legit hard worker before.

>>509329854
>they dont be good goy slaves like us
HAHAHAHA

>>509329906
>hahaha I'm a fucking lazy useless eater! I bet you feel real stupid now!
you do you kek

>>509321430
Why on Earth did you do that? Why do shills act as obvious as possible, what purpose did that serve?

>>509320978 (OP)
I thought that was a picture of Massie himself.

>>509330623
most people born in the last 25 years have face blindness due to low IQ. IQ has dropped each of the past 3 generations and that's never happened.

congrats, you're a trailblazing retard

>>509329062
yeah and the dominican side should be even lusher than that, all the deforestation near the border is due to haiti niggers going over illegally and cutting down trees on the DR side

>>509320978 (OP)
so trump will mock everyone who can see by carrying this crackhouse dweller and kicks out massie the character that is meant to channel all the good patriotic spirits of the us and worldwide in order to demoralize the goyim even more

>>509321334
Y-you don't get it, Trump's tactics are only cool when Daddy does them!

>>509323645
Sounds like he's pretty good at it. Better than "Always Late" or whatever the last 1/10 insult Trump came up with

>>509323616
>massie is a traitor!
>because he calls out Trump not keeping his promises!
Fucking MIGA, man.

>>509322629
Such kikery. GTFO this board.

>>509320978 (OP)
Trump is going 1000x harder against massie than he ever went against any democrat.

>>509320978 (OP)

Its just a show. They need someone to speak out against the israeli bullshit or the republican party risks becoming irrelevant for alot of people. I mean, why the fuck vote for a party thats completely controlled by foreign interests like the AIPAC.

There will never be America first if everyone prioritize Israel.

They need Massi. They created Massi.

>>509320978 (OP)
>kaplan
I'm so tired of jess bros
can we deport them first?
but to a muslim country

>>509331135
The Dems aren't real opposition to his beloved Israel.
Notice how he lost his shit when one who is actually anti-Israel won a primary? He's threatening to deport him. (Zohran Mamdani)

>>509331068
Trump can't do shit about him though he polls well.

>>509324433
Every German flag that promotes jewry is posting from a military base. The German citizenry are just as quietly fed up as everyone else

>>509323683
Here you go. And, as always, when teenage girl shame tactics don't work you'll play stupid.

>>509331284
Yeah hes taking marching orders from chabad or whatever weird jewish cult that is, hes an attack dog for them, nothing more, he probably doesn't even know what the fuck hes doing.

>>509320978 (OP)
pissed on

>>509321430
our bad anon
we assumed that on a political board, you know who who politicians are
please stick around, don't leave us for reddit

>>509322268
Yeah it’s called voting in congress on specific issues pertaining to Israel or jews
And they are public record
Also AIPAC isn’t shy and also has to report who they fund
Massie takes zero money from them
Ted Cruz and that faggot from the Carolinas takes over a million each

>>509320978 (OP)
The Don is obviously worried Massie will tank that abomination of a bill.
Massie '28

>>509321107
>>509321179
>>509321240
>>509321412
https://x.com/Gut_Check1/status/1940470701666062469

>>509322629
>woke right
The absolute state of this faggot nigger
>Gretchen! Stop trying to make woke right a thing, it’s not happening.gif

>>509322920
Meaningless kosher committee created slander against anyone who notices jewish soft power or is critical of Israel

>>509323834
he's given just over $9,000 to that PAC that donates to massie. the fact that THIS is migafags' smoking gun means they don't have a smoking gun

most migafags have never even shot a gun

>>509332034
Honestly pales in comparison to Trumps funding the fuck out of Israel, but I guess when all your grandkids are Jews you gotta support em.

>>509323227
You are a dumb nigger, you are the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen

>>509323475
>still using this even after getting BTFO so hard when it first came out
The smell of desperation is ugly>

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie already won the last time drumpf tried to unseat him, 80% to 20%

Trump is a complete moron when it comes to endorsements. He should be attempting to primary people like randy fine and lindsey graham rather than actual well-liked, principled conservatives.

>>509330288
Keep on goying, niggercattle

>>509323616
>post Massies words
>it’s the inverse of the memeflaggots written post
>gif related this poster immediately after Hitting post

>>509323683
Literally kill yourself

>>509332578
>He should be attempting to primary people like randy fine and lindsey graham rather than actual well-liked, principled conservatives
Yeah, but guys like Lindsey Graham are his type of people.

>>509324433
Rammstein Air Force base is the Elgin of Europe

>>509321107
He is pretty ugly. Very disrespectful.

>>509325001
>>509324724
Your name is Avi not Ivan

>>509320978 (OP)
miga vs maga wars, miga wins 100% because americans are majority naive retards.

>>509332034
debt ceiling is just kicking the can down the road. big beautiful bill is pure garbage that will result in more debt ceiling bullshit.

nice whataboutism though.

>>509320978 (OP)
kek, Massie 2028

>>509321058
You are Jewish

>>509326065
>>509326281
>” Dual citizens elected to the United States Congress should renounce citizenship in all other countries," Rep. Thomas Massie said in a statement.
How about that one, and all the other bills he has introduced to audit the fed

>>509333105
Try and explain why it would be garbage to raise ICE funding from 2 billion to 45 billion

>>509329854
>if you don’t look like a spun out fat alcoholic scruffy disheveled inbred jew you don’t work hard
You might be the dumbest nigger to ever reply to me

>>509321430
Just read his Wiki and you'll understand a lot about the jewish control of Congress. They literally voted to subsidize companies in a foreign country.

>>In March 2014, Massie voted against a bill to name Israel an American strategic partner. Massie voted no because the bill would have subsidized green energy companies in Israel. He said he would not support subsidies for American green energy companies, let alone foreign ones.[47] The bill passed by a margin of 412–10, with 6 voting present.[49]

>>509321107
Based I love Israel!

>>509320978 (OP)
>hurr he said poopy doody head
..Ok?

>>509320978 (OP)
And the Zionists want this guy.
>>509329914

>>509320978 (OP)
Kek his pollster looks like swarthy greasy kike nigger

>>509322077
lets consult the periodic table of jews.

>>509323900
i love this woman and get a huge throbbing erection anytime this webm is posted. thanks

Massey is actually a real American.

>>509332034
What does that has to do with anything?
The debt ceiling will be risen forever unless the whole system is scrapped a la national socialism, all the jews killed and the nonwhites deported
I dont see any of that happening so the debt ceiling is just gonna rise and USA will turn more non-white

>>509332034
Hey there "anon" how ya doin, just follow me to this oven here...

>>509321107
>groypers back on the jew cum slurping train
christ, brown people are so pathetic.

>>509321174
yeah, some faggot zogbot.

>>509334593
Yea it doesn't make any fucking sense at all

I assume the people defending him are all leftist who larp as rightwingers
Nobody gives a fuck about the debt for years and years, and then when it's time to actually get the deportation funding going, suddenly we cannot raise the debt ceiling one penny more.

Lol i mean fuck off with this shit.

>>509333526
Yeah what people dont realize is that Israel's GDP is almost entirely propped up by theft from White countries. And its not just natural resources from Russia/Ukraine. 30% of israelis speak russian, if you wonder how its possible for russians to be poor while having #1 largest natural resources in the world, thats why, their money is in mega-mansions in Tel Aviv and superyachts parked at Haifa.

But its shit like this, like jews owning lands and properties in White countries and rentiering them, plus also even more sinister stuff like jews passing "anti-boycott" laws which makes not sending money to israel illegal.
As in if you are a public official and have an option to order something either from israel or literally anywhere else, you always have to choose israel or you'd be prosecuted as "boycotting israel" and lose your job.

This creates a situation where you're not only needed to choose israel as the supplier, but it permeates as in every situation you would have its always the safe option to choose israel because then you get to keep your job and not get prosecuted

>a majority of Americans oppose anti-BDS laws; 72% opposed laws penalizing people who boycott Israel and 22% supported such laws.
Doesn't seem very democratic to me, nobody actually voted for these laws yet almost all states have them.

This is a good rebuttal for the "you voted for it" bullshit, nobody ever voted for infinite shitskins nor infinite money for israel, yet it keeps happening

>>509323742
They did that with Steve King so it's possible, but Massie is a bit more popular in his district.

>>509326268
>>509333006
Cope, woke right trannies.

>>509335240
"woke right" kek

>>509320978 (OP)

it's funny watching the left get reduced to ad hominem attacks because they can't attack the president's successful policies.
It's like watching a literal trainwreck happen in real time.

Democrats: You're embarrassing yourselves. Take the L, go back to publicly grandstanding about da ilegulz

Good. I hope this shit goycattle ranch goes down in flames. Fuck zogmerica, and fuck Goynald.
TJD TND 1488

>>509321430
Literally the only jewSA politician not completely controlled by Israel (they had his wife killed for it)

>>509326908
>>509326908


Shit I'm gonna say it: In 1940 São Paulo was around 90% white.

>>509322119
>>509322145
Nightmarishly dysgenic

>>509320978 (OP)
grok did massie vote for budget increases under biden?
grok did massie vote to remove all limits on accepted visas under biden?

>>509321430
>Doesn't know Massie
Go back

>>509334866
Paul posting isn't just haphazard
pol has been fiscal conservative for decades
we care about the debt, because debt is slavery to the jew
stop projecting. feds have plenty of money to kick out beaners
don't hang browns over our head to compel compliance. we're getting real fucking sick and tired of every installed admin expanding spending
It was looking like we might've seen a real good chance for a reversal this time but

>>509335614
No this bill does the opposite though.

It cuts spending
And cuts taxes.
---- in other words it moves us away from slavery to the government.
The dollar is being spent by americans. And if you're really a libertarian, you'll use that extra money to invest in your own future. That's how it should be.

AND it deports beaners.
Which also moves us away from slavery (to beaner interests).

Overly focusing on the debt is missing the big picture.

>>509336010
>No this bill does the opposite though.
>
>It cuts spending
>And cuts taxes.
and it increases the debt ceiling by FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS.

get fucked NIGGER KIKE BITCH ASS FAGGOT.

all the ice/border wall/deportation spending is about ~$150 BILLION. why do we need to raise the debt celing by FIVE TRILLION to get $150 billion in border security?

BECAUSE FUCKING JEWS AND KIKES AND NIGER BITCH FAGGOTS.

NO THANKS. NOT FALLING FOR THIS SCAM FAGGOT.

GOD BLESS THOMAS MASSIE
GOD BLESS AMERICA
FUCK JEWS
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK KIKES
FUCK FAGGOTS

>>509323227
>post-gamergate right-wingers who want to..... achieve leftist goals.
Nigger you sound retarded

>>509336648
>and it increases the debt ceiling by FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS.

And what are the real world consequences of this?
Sorry, I may be a retard but it seems to me it's just a license to print more money so the jews take a bigger cut.

>>509326065
Trump has a recording of allowing the browning of America and is in the process of replacing the citizenry with Hindus, so in reality, Trump is even worse than imagined.

>>509320978 (OP)
(((Kaplan)))

>>509336802
>And what are the real world consequences of this?
>Sorry, I may be a retard but it seems to me it's just a license to print more money so the jews take a bigger cut.
you dont see jews taking 4.85 TRILLION dollars so we can get $150 BILLION of our own money spent how we want..... as a problem?

stay in your shithole third world country, thanks

>>509329379
You sound like a major fucking faggot.

>>509321430
Hey newfag
Lurk for 4 years before you post.

>>509336648
Bro you are the most deluded retard in the world if you think the debt ceiling is not going to get raised.

It is just going to get raised without the border funding

MIGA machine trying so hard to astroturf support against Massie, one of the only actual conservatives in the house and the only one to call out AIPAC

>>509336910
I was just asking.
So you just fear the 4,85 trillion will end up in Synagogues. Got it.

>>509321430
Who is the IDF? And why should we keep giving Israel money?

>>509337044
>PLUS 30 billion in foreign aid
>which is what goes to the synagogues
Moar like international banks

>>509321107
Trump's "poll star" Doug Kaplan has an Israeli flag on his X account, and he looks like lives in a Hamas hostage video directed by Eli Roth.

>>509336648
>ID: DOUBLE NIGRO

>>509322077
That is a happy merchant if ever I saw one.

>>509337044
Raising the debt ceiling means the US government will take out more debt (otherwise why raise the ceiling), and we pay interest on that debt. We already pay interest on existing debt, and now we will pay more interest on more debt. So much interest that if they keep raising the debt ceiling, eventually we will owe more in interest on the debt than they can collect from taxes.

>>509321892
Trump's problem with Massie is that Massie doesn't kneel to Israel. No really, that's it.

>>509337044
>So you just fear the 4,85 trillion will end up in Synagogues. Got it.
not just 'in synagogues'. TRILLIONS of it will be spent AGAINST ME and other other americans. the bill wants to create digital ID and more draconian internet spying, it funds even more government scams to steal even more money from me and other americans in the future. it is stealing from me, my children, and my future grand children - for generations.

TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS stolen from americans to fund operations AGAINST US.

fuck the federal government. anyone who votes for anything that increases its scope/scale/funding beyond what was intended(protecting our borders, enabling trade with other countries, etc) is EVIL and should be REJECTED.

this isnt rocket science. we should never compromise with thieves holding a blade to our neck. the ONLY viable option is to grab that blade and stab your enemy with their own weapon. you do NOT give in to these thieving kike scum schemes. not one inch.

our boomer parents/grandparents gave in to this shit and look where it has gotten us. NO MORE. NOT ANOTHER DIME.

>>509337412
Oh yeah and all that tax money that goes to pay interest on debt isn't being spent on things the government is supposed to do.

>>509322268
Your nose is showing

>>509337432
>anyone who votes for anything that increases its scope/scale/funding beyond what was intended(protecting our borders, enabling trade with other countries, etc) is EVIL and should be HANGED.

>>509322920
It doesn't mean anything. It's just the new leftist buzzword to try and win arguments.

>>509321430
Lurk faggot.

>>509320978 (OP)
Despite the memes and narratives we get up North, people in Kentucky are much more intelligent than the rest of the South (especially Florida and Georgia, two apex zionist shitholes).

Massie will win by a landslide.

>>509321640
Learn more about Ron Paul. CNN's Dana Bash attacked him like a fucking vampire when he was running for POTUS. Paul is like human garlic to Zios.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-10-12-hamas-created-israel-yasser-arafat-ron-paul.html

>Doug (((Kaplan)))
Poll disregarded

>>509337412
The debt literally doesn't matter. It's just a record of money the government has spent into the economy that it has not removed through taxation.

The simplest way to stop paying interest on the debt is to stop. paying. interest. on. the. "debt".

There is no natural law or law of accounting that demands or requires interest be paid. How could the currency issuer "borrow" its own currency? It can't -- so selling bonds is not a borrowing operation to begin with. It is part of monetary policy to drain excess reserves (reserves that are created by identity when you spend to a deficit!) in order to hit the overnight interest rate target. If the reserves were not drained and piled up in the banking system, the interest rate would naturally fall, potentially to zero. Is this actually a problem? No, it isn't.

>>509321107
You need some crack and a hamburger?

>>509337919
>the debt doesn't matter goy
kek

>>509337919
if its not a problem, then why not just fix it and stop doing it then? why do it this way if it doesnt matter and isnt a real problem? just fucking stop doing it this way then? oh they wont? ok time to re-open auschwitz.

>>509321892
Trump's seething over Massie began after Massie did his legendary "every Republican has an AIPAC babysitter except for me" interview with Tucker Carlson, which woke up a couple million normies/boomers. Trump previously praised Massie, which Massie posted on his X account.

Extra fucked up that Trump is trying to smear and terminate Massie's political career, seeing how he's a new widow after Mossad likely poisoned his wife in the weeks following the Tucker interview.

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie votes against stopping illegal immigrants while moralfagging about the deficit.
Our demographics are far more important than a temporary balanced budget that will likely not be balanced when we hit the next debt ceiling.
Plus deporting illegals and clamping down on "legal" immigration will also free up more money.

If he wanted a balanced budget, then he needs to think long term about getting rid of illegals and even "legal" immigrants we've accepted over the past 15 years.

>>509337977
Take 10 minutes and just worth through the logic of what I said. Stop and take 10 minutes. Understand that money has an origin point, so it has to come from somewhere. And through the iron logic of double entry book keeping, every asset is also a liability, always mirrored. And the sum total of all assets and liabilities must always balance out to zero. This is reality.

So.. as money is created out of thin air, there must always be a debt.

>>509338152
>Massie votes against stopping illegal immigrants while moralfagging about the deficit.
this is a lie only a stupid nigger would believe.

>>509338169
>So.. as money is created out of thin air, there must always be a debt.
ah so maybe we should fucking end the fed and go back to real money then. simple. also get rid of all of (((you))) people

>>509338089
Who has the money to buy bonds these days? Yeah, a regular person could buy some $50k worth of bonds or whatever, but in the amounts that are typically being offered and the kinds of interest rates you get these days (10%+ is long long gone), you pretty much need some serious scratch for it to be worth your while in the first place.

So the bond market is dominated by institutional investors who are already loaded. Now, there's also a lot of pension funds invested in bonds (including Social Security -- that's what "intra-governmental debt" is), so maybe paying interest on bonds is a good idea for those things.

But it's a policy choice to pay the interest and isn't required by any natural law or accounting law.

>>509322268
Search your boss's office you'll find plenty Ari

>>509337023
Massie is more of a lolbert than a conservative. He's got his bad views here and there but he has more good views than bad. he's also staunchly small government so he will even partner with democrats to oppose stuff which I don't always agree with but I can respect.

>>509338284
When you say "real money", what do you mean? The most successful economic miracles of the 20th century -- Germany, Japan, and China -- were all done with non-convertible floating currencies.

And ending the Fed is all well and good, but it's not really the primary issue. After all, the Fed remits all interest it earns on bonds it holds back to the Treasury, minus expenses. The real issue is the part of the Federal Reserve Act that 1) forbids the central bank from purchasing bonds on the primary market and 2) requires the Treasury to issue bonds to "cover" deficits.

>>509322198
Is he really the God of Cheetos?
He's got mine & Cartman's vote!

>>509337919
It doesn't work like that otherwise you'd be right.
The debt comes from US Treasury securities like bonds. They create and sell bonds on the open market because they need the money to fund the government, and they don't want to issue currency because that would directly cause inflation. But nobody will buy the bonds unless they pay out more than expected inflation, so there has to be interest on them.
If the government stops paying interest on national debt, nobody would want to buy treasury securities anymore, and that means the government would run out of money and would be forced to issue currency, which would add to inflation.

Currently, money is created not by the government but by banks. Every time a new loan is created by a bank, that money is created from thin air on the spot, and it exists until the principal is repaid. That new money from bank loans is direct cause of inflation, maybe the main cause of inflation today. The Federal Reserve controls this by setting the reserve requirement, except when covid hit in 2020, the Federal Reserve eliminated the reserve requirement entirely.

I'm not fully up to speed on all of this but that's my understanding after reading a lot about it.

>>509338169
It doesn't balance to zero though, it's negative. The reason is that money is created out of thin air, but it must be repaid with interest. If you borrow $1000 from the bank, and you repay $1000, you still owe interest.

>>509338909
The government cannot run out of money. It creates its own money every time it spends. It does not need to borrow its own currency from the population.

>>509335489
Yeah shit can change quick once you start feeding the niggers
USA was 90% White in 1960, look at them now.
It's hard to comprehend that USA was literally Whiter than Finland is today, just 60 years ago, considering the state of them

What the Germans said about France in 1930s what will happen if the jews are not removed, happened to the entire White world

>>509338988
It does balance to zero. I'm not going to debate this. Sectoral balances is settled.

>>509339120
No it doesn't balance to zero. There must be more money in existence tomorrow than today otherwise nobody would be able to pay interest. It's a trick to steal goods and services from idiots without them realizing they're being stolen from.

>groypers shilling for a lolbertarian
LMFAO

>>509321107
>Nooo!! You need to argue in good faith against me even if I don't and I lie and manipulate all the time!

>>509339045
No it doesn't work like that at all. You know nothing.

>>509321430
Everybody does know him you worthless newfag nigger

>>509332034
>314-117
so Biden's bill has bipartisan support where trump's bill can't even get all republicans to vote for it. lmao

>>509338988
And yes, you owe that interest -- but when you repay the balance that money is destroyed. The interest is what remains in the money supply.

It's some food for thought on the role of interest on inflation, though, isn't it?

>>509321058
>>509321430
You're a dumb shill with no strategy.

>>509321860
No way Ron posted a Ben garrison

>>509339295
Exactly, even when you repay the principal, you still owe interest. So someone somewhere has to come up with more money for that, which means over time there's no way for everyone to repay all debts without borrowing even more money, also at interest.

>>509339252
It actually DOES work like that, but we have self-imposed legal restraints that obscure this. Now obviously very, very wealthy people -- and also low end conservatives who have been ideologically conditioned to support artificial scarcity for reasons they can't articulate -- have some pretty logical interests in making sure there exists a risk-free guaranteed return for them to park their money into.

So we keep up with the fiction that the government needs to borrow money. But as I already explained, bond sales aren't a borrowing operation (and you know this).

>>509321860
Checked n keked, damn it's easy to make the jews seethe only proving how weak they actually are

>>509321107
Massie is Jewish. You’re Jewish fr. Why is Nick always right?

>>509321430
lurk moar

>>509339486
Okay, but the money supply does need to be expanded to support economic growth. Is interest the best way to do that? Maybe not. Like I already explained, though, paying interest is a policy choice when it comes to national "debt". It is a policy choice -- there is no physical need for this process to take place. It is a self-imposed. legal. restraint.

Arguments center around fiscal responsibility, inflation management, etc. But there is no literal, physical, mathematical, or accounting requirement that this actually take place. The government creates its own money every time it spends.

So taking this to its logical conclusion -- which is why the waters get so muddy -- does private finance actually have a cold logical reason to exist? Couldn't the government just give people money interest free? Yes, it could but that has its own set of problems.

>>509320978 (OP)
topkek, massie 2028

>>509339530
>bond sales aren't a borrowing operation
Yes they are. It isn't complicated, the government borrows existing money by creating a new bond and selling it.
>>509339881
>but the money supply does need to be expanded to support economic growth
>need
I don't know about that, another way to grow the economy is to provide more goods and services, which doesn't necessarily require more money. For example if more natural resources are discovered, or some smart person finds a more efficient way to produce something.
Right now the reason all the businessmen and politicians want to grow the economy is to increase their personal wealth, that's it. There are dirt poor tribal people with no GDP who seem pretty happy, so you can't say that growing the economy is necessary.

>>509323475
Doesn't matter either way. He's still taken 0 from the ones who killed his wife/who control DC politicians

>>509320978 (OP)
Massie just wants open borders since he’s a libertarian

>>509332345
Nice meme. US foreign aid to ME states other than Israel was 14.2B 2021 to 2023

>>509343017
He’s a coward for not going public with his wife being murdered by Jews

>>509340801
>I don't know about that, another way to grow the economy is to provide more goods and services, which doesn't necessarily require more money. For example if more natural resources are discovered, or some smart person finds a more efficient way to produce something.
Right, lowering the cost of production and increasing supply can reduce inflationary pressure. That's because real resources -- that is, the things you would use money to buy -- is the actual limiting factor on the economy, not money which is theoretically unlimited.

>>509335240
What pathetic shilling

>>509322128
How does /ptg/ still exist? How does /pol/ support any politician besides this guy

>>509320978 (OP)
Kek he really does look like a disgusting disheveled kike who just crawled out of a tunnel

>>509338637
>it’s not the federal reserve, it’s just the act that created the federal reserve

>>509339768
The amount and piss poor quality of shilling in this thread is …just…

>>509339768
Right about being a raging faggot? Yeah, I would agree, Nick is indeed a raging fag.

Why doesnt he use a rotary razer
it takes no energy to shave with one

>>509343585
Do you think he actually has the evidence for it? Because if the message was
>stop talking about (((us)))
It was a failed delivery of that message, because he has afterwards called for all dual citizenship to be revoked to hold public office

>>509329379
You don't think Trump's haircut looks cheap, 1970s, and just plain retarded? You're a retarded faggot.

>>509344210
If the Fed was allowed to purchase bonds on the primary market, presumably at much lower yield rates than the private sector will tolerate, what does that do for interest paid on the "debt"?

>>509344629
Probably cause the federal government to become insolvent
Which is the game of chicken we are currently in anyway

>>509344932
The federal government creates its own money. It can't be insolvent. It can always afford to purchase anything priced for sale in its own currency. It can't run out of money.

>>509323900
Marriage material