What is your unironic, non-edgy, opinion on the Holocaust?

>>509582690 (OP)
it happened and is real but hitler really should have exterminated gypsies first

I don't have an edgy or ironic opinion about the Holocaust. I believe it was absolutely horrible and my own German ancestors helped save Jews from the Holocaust. The same reason why I believe the Holocaust is horrible is the reason why I believe the zionist genocide in Palestine is horrible.

>>509582690 (OP)
I was all for it when i thought it was only for jews but then i found out it was basically gulags for people chimmler didn't like

>>509582690 (OP)
posting my opinion would be illegal

>>509582690 (OP)
>non-edgy
when did /pol/ start to be anti-fun ?

It never happened and Hitler did nothing wrong

Nobody fucking cares.
Is that still edgy because I still don't care.
Bazillions of people have die in the past and they don't have some shitty museum with admission fees and merchandising.

It happened but it's very over exaggerated and portrayed the worst thing that ever happened, ignoring all other suffering.

It's a jew lie.

That it makes sense to dispose of the useles (such as the elderly) when you’re running slave labor camps to produce munitions, etc, when you’re getting your ass kicked on two fronts. Could you reach 6 million, doing that, in five years or so? Probably.

>>509582690 (OP)
didn't happen

>>509582796
he didn't?

>>509583068
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who knew that Hitler was a Jewish psyop for the formation of the state of Israel. Since the census numbers stayed the same, Hitler was just keeping them alive so that they could move down into Palestine, eventually creating a nuclear-armed Jewish state. Hitler knew what he was doing all along.

>>509582690 (OP)
>1pbtid
im totally pro holocaust now.. used to be "skeptic"

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happen to nearly the extent that it's been purported to. It 100% did go down to a degree, but the actual quantifiable elements of it we've been told our whole lives are complete bullshit. They were literally just made the fuck up.

>>509582690 (OP)
Germans used jews as scape goat for their problems, put them into forced labor camps during the war, when the war started going badly supplies dwindled and rogue officers began abusing the prisoners.
That's it, that was the "holocaust".
Still horrible and unjustified, but there was no systemic effort to exterminate the Jewish people.
The final solution to the Jewish question was a plan to relocate them all to Madagascar after the war ended.

>>509582690 (OP)
Heavily exaggerated. I wish 6 million of them were cooked, but the math doesn't make sense.

>>509582690 (OP)
It doesn't matter. If your worldview rests on the happening or non-happening of the holocaust, rather than allowing you be agnostic, then it's a bad worldview rooted in jewish supremacy. When it's convenient the holocaust happened. When it's not, it didn't happen, but it should have.

>>509582690 (OP)
>the Holocaust

Stop perpetuating this kike meme

>>509582796
>>509583187
Nothing "happened". Kikes came up with the holocaust meme during the 1970's when the eponymous series was released by them.

The orwellian thought crime "laws" making questioning the kike version of events illegal followed one to two decades later in most subjugated white goyim nations.

>>509582690 (OP)
It actually happened and it's sad that it did but it shouldn't be held as emotional blackmail on Americans or any of the other Allies. America needs to declare independence from AIPAC.

>>509582690 (OP)
Instead of exterminating jews, hitler should have imported 30 million black men

>>509583223
There were 15 million jews in all of Europe.
There is no way that 6 million meet the criteria you describe.

>>509582690 (OP)
all its done is taught me about propaganda and boomer post wwii neoliberal consensus

Ironically had they just shut the fuck up about it I would've believed it more.

>>509583317
this is the theory I'm currently toying with

>>509582690 (OP)
I cannot voice it because it my be illegal. The laws are made in such a way that I cannot be sure.

Make of that what you will, but I feel like the truth should fear no investigation, and that it is odd that supposed facts need to be codified in law and vigorously accepted lest you have your life and property taken from you på foreign agents within what is ostensibly your own state.

>>509582690 (OP)
It’s an event that has been purposely misinterpreted and taught to future generations. There’s been ethnic cleansing in many countries, the holocaust just happened to be a European one.

>>509582850
>The same reason why I believe the Holocaust is horrible is the reason why I believe the zionist genocide in Palestine is horrible.
That's dumb. If the Holocaust was real, than surely, all those atrocities from October 7th must also be real. Why shouldn't Israel be genociding the monsters who beheaded 40 of their babies, threw others into ovens alive, raped women so hard that it shattered their pelvises, played soccer with severed breaststroke, etc.?

It's all the same shit.

>>509582690 (OP)
Literally not my problem.
A piece of historical trivia.

>>509582690 (OP)
a british atrocity propaganda operation repeated in both world wars, the second time interested third parties kept the hoax active
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factory

>>509582690 (OP)
Some jews got put into camps like every other country put potential enemy combatants in prison during the war. Germans living in Britain were put in prison. Japanese living in the USA were put into camps after Pearl Harbor. The jews just made up a bunch of stories afterward and they control the media, hollywood, academia etc. It's all bullshit.

I find it incredibly ironic that people who deny it basically are just doing their own version of the narcissist's prayer.

>>509582690 (OP)
Based and necessary.

>>509582690 (OP)
i wish it had actually happened because jews deserve it, all stone age genes deserved to die n the stone age. THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT AGE

>>509582690 (OP)
it's a cool word

>>509583317
That's classic kosher conspiracy lore, and most people who are pro-Hitler had an embarrassing phase where they ate up that slop. I love how you guys think you're clever, and privy to some kind of secret information by being wrong.

>>509582690 (OP)
anyone talking about it in 2025 belongs in a concentration camp.

>>509582690 (OP)
It never happened.

>>509583614
Did I say Jooz, dummy?

Germans are subhuman savages, how could a civilized nation do something this barbaric?

Cancer to Europe.

>>509583753
you sound vaxxed holocaust trutherr

>>509583822
wow man hot take

>>509582690 (OP)
It happened but probably in the range of 5 lakh to a million. Germans need to get fucked for what they did.

>>509582690 (OP)
Never happened and you a gay nigger.

>>509582690 (OP)
My unironic opinion is I don't care if it happened and if it did happen then it should have happened 6,000,000 times harder. Also I hope it happens again if it did happen and next time if it possibly does happen that it happens for good. Though if it didn't happen then I really wish it did happen and I still hope it does happen one day.

>>509582690 (OP)
First you must define "the Holocaust"
Were jews officially discriminated against? Absolutely. Were some of them put in camps as enemies of the state? Yes they were. Did the Nazis systematically kill jews in homicidal gas chambers and then hide the evidence? No that is complete horseshit.

>>509582690 (OP)
I think the deaths may have been inflated due to the logistical challenges created by the allies waging war on Germany,

>>509583317
The joos needed a boogeyman for their evil agenda, and Isaac Newton laid the for nation for them to a century earlier. He has some really esoteric shit going on

>>509583880
Not on 4chin it isn't.

>>509582690 (OP)
They killed millions of jews of european heritage, as well as millions of other europeans
Now, Europe is completely brown

>>509582690 (OP)
It never happened and they deserved it. The holobunga story was created because it's impossible to argue in good faith against NS, so all they can do is to pump out atrocity propaganda lies to the max while obfuscating the real atrocities like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate

>>509582690 (OP)

holocaust 2.0 will be the final solution. no kike left behind.

>>509583927
I think the posen speeches are enough to demonstrated genocidal intend (ethnic cleansings) by modern standards
I do not think either the anne frank diary or the posen speeches are fake far too understated for fakes.
Hoess affidativ is so fake the truther side do not even bring it up even if it is the best evidence they have.

>>509582690 (OP)
I think Germany destroyed the United States by forcing them here.

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happen.

Exaggerated. There were camps, but they were prison camps. They only started to starve at the end of the war when everything was falling apart. The number of dead has been greatly exaggerated. Hitler wanted to send these people to Madagascar. He should have been allowed to pursue that, peacefully. There have been so many lies about what went on at those camps that I don't believe much about what's reported, especially from the USSR. I believe that the US forces didn't find any extermination camps because they didn't exist. I could even believe that some rogue psychopath commander of a camp was killing prisoners at one. But the official narrative of extermination camps and a mass program to eliminate jews? Nope. No way. It's jewery that they use for social manipulation, pure and simple.

>>509582796
Exterminating Gypsies is pointless if you're just going to cancel it out by importing hordes of brown people anyway. You're just replacing one group of low IQ brown people for another group of low IQ brown people.

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>>509582690 (OP)
That chick on the right is fucking hot. Glad the evil SS nazis took time to photograph this for documentary purposes

>>509584189

>>509582690 (OP)
jews were deported just like they've been hundreds of times over thousands of years. there were no homicidal gas chambers

>>509582690 (OP)
The Holocaust happened in that camps were made to separate ethnic groups that the Reich deemed undesirable (Jews, Roma, Poles, etc) but also (people forget about this part) criminals and political enemies. Hell, Dirlewanger was in a camp before he led his SS division. People did die in these camps but due mostly to deprivation and disease. I think about 300k total people were killed as a direct result of the Holocaust. It's been milked probably more than any other historical event by Jews and anti-fascists to get their way and demonize opponents.

>>509582690 (OP)
should have just deported them out of the country.

any half assed attempt at genocide has the opposite effect and gives those people something to complain about forever and use as guilt and become more powerful

either wipe a whole race out or don't do it at all. in human history there's a bunch of races that have been wiped out that no one cares about because they're all gone. no one has empathy for some archaic peoples you don't know about

>>509583927
The holobunga is very easy to define: approximately 6 million jews were killed by NS Germany, Hitler/his government gave specific orders of extermination, the main weapon of the crime was Zyklon B gassings.

All those points are provably false: at most something like 2/300k jews died in camps, almost all of starvation or disease. There has never been any order of extermination, the pilpulers have to always mistranslate and conveniently ignore the fact German secret codes were broken by the Brits for years and still never caught a single message related to the topic of any kind. Zyklon B killing people in the way it's described and on the scale it's described is genuinely impossible, and there wasn't any more Zyklon in "death camps" than in all normal camps, because it was obviously used to kill lice, just like the US sprayed it on mexicans immigrants to kill lice. The only true gas rooms in camps were laundry rooms, where gas was used to disinfect clothes, those are the only rooms where you can find the famous Prussian blue on the walls in any significant quantity.

>>509584087
I think it's illegal for you to have any other options lol, but do yourself a favour stop believing in lies made up by the people that hate your race.

>>509584234

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happen but it should have and it will

>>509582690 (OP)
The camps were used to remove the kikel from the damgers of the war by jew, adofl shitler. Maybe 271k from typhus

>>509584275
That's not what the "Holocaust" means to most people. It's the gas chambers and the sacred 6 million.

>>509584391

>>509584155
> I could even believe that some rogue psychopath commander of a camp was killing prisoners at one.
It did happen. He was literally executed by the SS as soon as it was discovered. His name was Karl Otto Koch, he and his wife killed a few (not thousands, literally just a few) jewish prisoners to steal their belongings.

>>509584334
I kind of snapped when I learned that the soviet union had physical possession of all death camps and that the alliies didn't even get one.

My coldwar anti commie indoctrination snapped and can no longer believe in it.

100% bullshit.

>>509582690 (OP)
Basically pic related

>>509582690 (OP)
I don't believe it any more than I believe the Iraq war was about "freedom" or "oil"

>>509584431

>>509584434
the villain of schindlers list amon goeth was convicted too for killing an inmate (and stealing)

>>509584495

>>509583459
>Still horrible and unjustified
So the jews did nothing to bring this negative attention on themselves whatsoever? It was all a fantasy?
They played no significant role in the Weimar degeneracy, or the previous attempted revolution, they weren't over represented in the Frankfurt school or the transexual movement, none of that happened?

>>509582690 (OP)
the Germans couldn't keep POWs alive because of the bombing efforts of the British and Americans. there were no death camps. even the suggestion of such is nonsensical; as is the alleged death toll. fewer than 300,000 died in these camps due to lack of supplies, including medicine and food.

>>509583305
They survived because they stole the gas.

>>509582690 (OP)
Trannies should've been gassed before jews

>>509582690 (OP)
Never happened

>>509584502
This. They want us to believe there was a complete fanatical extermination of every single jew they could get their hands on, meanwhile the fact is that anyone who mistreated prisoners without cause was convicted or shot. The Germans were unironically by far the most moral relevant army in the world. The most honorable, kind, and fair, while ALL their enemies were absolute scum, evil shitstains serving jewish evilness, raping and killing everything in their wake. Heil Hitler, TKD.

>>509584452
The logic of human nature tells you it's false. Why would a regime capable of committing such an act be embarrassed what other people thought about it and hide it from its own citizens? Makes no sense.

>>509582690 (OP)
fairytale to justify international jewish power

>>509584570
communist jews took over a german federal state, seceeded it, desecrated churches, created a famine as they proclaimed a soviet republic on german soil trying to import the red terror to germany in an illegal imperialist moscow based coup

>>509584570
That's why the kikes don't want Mein Kampf well translated or available, because Hitler never started as anti-jews, he simply did the era-equivalent of looking up wikipedia pages and noticing a common trend in early lives. Anyone who reads MK can do the same today and come to the same conclusions: everything filthy and wrong that exists today is pushed by jews.

>>509582877
The jews now consistently claim that no significant number of non jews were killed, and that they themselves fabricated all evidence that suggests otherwise because "goys wouldn't sympathise with us if it was just jews".

>>509582690 (OP)
My great grandfather was a butcher you know.
He survived Treblinka with his wife.
Faken hell man.... I don't know what game you're playing here, but it's not just the Jews who are being deleted there.

>>509582690 (OP)
It was just a small part of the civilian deaths in the WWII, but for some reason it gets a lot of attention.

Around 200k I forget the exact number according the the american red cross at the time. There wasn't even 6 million jews in europe at the time, it is an impossibility. The elite comprising of various races decided that they would use the jews as protection via victim status and use Israel as a kind of FOB. The masses have been tricked into siding with the ruling class with a magical word in antisemitism that shuts down any critical thinking. Hitler was jewish AND a rothschild which explains all of the NATSOC war blunders.

>>509582690 (OP)
It was real, it happened, it was horrible, it should have never happened but it was also not unprovoked.
Behavior of the jews was problem then and is problem today.

>>509584674
/Pol/ produced a telegram that ordered all camp commands to stop the holocaust going so far to order the preservation of the lives of prisoners as priority as they were critical for the war effort

this is leagues better than what the other side has shown me

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>>509582690 (OP)
Maybe but probably not.

>>509582690 (OP)
holocaust didn't happen
lots of people died in camps, not just jews, due to supply line bombings

>>509584849
in the 2000s a british scholar discovered an article by winston churchill that was never published in which he blamed jewish behavior for their treatment
it sadly is not available to read even now

>>509583753
is this going to be posted in every thread?

>>509582690 (OP)
(((They))) always conveniently forget the Holodomor and the major part that they played.

>>509582690 (OP)
I don't care if it did or didn't happen because WWII was 80 years ago, and I won't give anyone alive today special concessions because of it. They're all grifters hoping to cash in expired coupons.

when you've been expelled from 109 countries and all of humanity has been trying to exterminate you for millennia... maybe, just maybe the problem isn't society, it's staring at you in the mirror.

protip, kikes: if it smells like shit everywhere you go, check your shoes. heebs are not long for this world.

>>509583567
>It actually happened
What happened?
Prison camps in a losing country were ran through with starvation and disease? Or the Nazis created a thousand piece carnival show where roller coasters hurled people into furnaces, cages full of bears and eagles are people alive, people put babies in soccer balls, and thousands of men were forcibly masturbated by robots until they died of heart attacks.

Because the second one is what is claimed by eye witnesses. The second one is what you'll be arrested in half the west for saying is untrue.

>>509582690 (OP)
After 2 hours of reading about the 1919 German civil war and the history of Weimar Germany I firmly believe the Jews had it coming. They earned it.

A you image Gordon Ramsey a camp lieutenant.
They’re still alive you fucking doughnut. You didn’t leave the gas on long enough.

Most of the Holocaust was simply a consequence of there being THE BIGGEST FUCKING WAR EVER right there. But Jews are offended that they had to suffer like everyone else.
The true homicide stuff was collective punishment, which is older than writing.

>>509582690 (OP)
An organised extermination was attempted but the numbers and methods are VASTLY over exaggerated. Modern Jews have manipulated the popular narrative in their favour.

>>509583753

>>509582690 (OP)
this is actually a pretty non-edgy take
>they just wanted to expel (((them)))
the deaths only came later, and were largely due to follow on effects, disease and starvation we know well, but also suicide at the prospect of having to live with a bunch of (((them))), and directly from allied attacks (le heckin nazis are there, level it).

>>509582690 (OP)

>>509584755
Based blue hatter

I still watch his speech (4.20.89) every birthday.

Seig heil bruder

>>509582690 (OP)
It's fake and gay but we need another for real this time because kikes have become like plague-spreading lice.

you're a bunch of vile, disgusting cunts on 4chins. zero sympathy for human suffering during the war.

my great grandfather died in nazi camp, you insensitive pricks. he fell off a fucking guard tower.

tkd.

>>509582690 (OP)
It falls apart immediately for anyone that has even met a Jew and met a German even in modern day.
At this point, normies are realizing that Jews lied about it just from hearing them talking about Gaza
>OY VEY THE 10,000 OVENED BABIES GOY WE ARE JUST DEFENDING OURSELVES!!!
Even before 2025, people here always said that if they try and do another Holohoax it won't work because every 3rd world poverty person has a high tech camcorder in their pocket.

>>509583567

>>509585310

lawl.

>>509582690 (OP)
It time the world moved on from the guilt trip

>>509583753
Lies, and whether it's appropriate to call something a lie, are contextual, the context being the objective truth.

I know this fries your smooth brain but it's not actually a cool or smart point out that someone denying something that IS NOT TRUE and someone denying the truth "sound similar" when you remove the context of whether or not they're right.

>>509582690 (OP)
It happened and it was a bad thing, but it doesn't justify Israel. The Balfour declaration was long before WW2.

>>509582690 (OP)
Probably just labor camps. Systematic murder probably didn't happen, but a fair few died from disease and starvation.

>>509582690 (OP)
Even If we grant them the argument that the holohoax happened (which you wouldn’t know based on their past and present treatment of the very western, Christian nations who allegedly saved them from heckin’ Hitlerino), the numbers were grossly over reported, and nowhere even close to the 6 gorillion they claim today.

>>509585334
>Seig heil

>>509585441
churchill made clear in a newspaper article that he backed zionism as wedge issue against the jewish penchant for communism

>>509584773
This. They admit to whole-sale making up 5 million dead. But they'd never lie about 6 million!

>>509583811
>privy to some kind of secret information by being wrong.
pray tell, what is incorrect about the census numbers, red cross numbers, and allies own reports?

>>509585441
>It happened and it was a bad thing
Wrong. You're Jewish.

>>509583956
what did Newton say? and also, a century? wasn't he dead like 2 centuries before ww1?

>>509583514
Based on what?

>>509584023
>>509583880
>jews of european heritage
Ah yes, those infamous white nationalist jews! how could we forget?

>>509584773
So.... were they lying then, or are they lying now? It's all so tough to keep up with their lies.

>>509582690 (OP)
Is that i dont care about it.
For me it doesnt matter if it happened or not. I dont see Jews in a negative or positive way so i care about it the same as any other genocide wich is to say i dont care at all.

>>509582690 (OP)
Didn't happen, but should have, and definitely will except this time there won't be any survivors

>>509584634
>They survived because they stole the gas.

>>509585828
You don't care about the Rwandan genocide of the Tutsi? How dare you! Never again!

>>509582690 (OP)
Shit happens. It's a rough world. Lots of animals go extinct

>>509585501
I need to start upping my samisdat collection for anons.

Zundel was right, karma is a force and it will be met with these people.

The problem is, we can never organize like they can, because they infiltrate (either in person or through blackmail by proxy)

The answer? IRA style cells with no head to cut off. Only local cells willing to do the job. I am already recruiting and tbqh, it isn't even that hard. The Jews think they might be winning, and this will be their downfall. Their pride.

We are NEMESIS- divine retribution meter out by an appropriate agent- ie people like you and me..
Don't have access to guns?
>>Many other ways to unalive kikes

>>Knives
>>Bombs
>>Using honeypots to lure kikes and strangle them

Literally no end to what we can and will do.

>>509585823
They currently claim they lied in the past but ONLY because you forced them to by being so heartless and evil.

>>509583459
Oh shit we believe the exact same thing.

>>509584674

Oskar Dirlewanger enters the chat..

>>509582690 (OP)
shouldn't have any leverage over current politics.

If they won, it wouldn't have ended with the Jews, as their definition of non-aryans broadened

>>509582690 (OP)
What’s the holocaust ?

>>509582690 (OP)
>Non-edgy
That it never happened.

>>509582690 (OP)
That jews must have really done something bad to make the germans so angry. WAT DID THEY DO? NOBODY KNOWS

>>509586383
They didn't believe in supremacy, the jews did. The jews believe they are the Chosen people meant to rule over the rest of us goyim. The Germans believed Europe for Europeans, Africa for Africans, and Asia for Asians.

>>509585618
I'm talking about the retarded claim that Hitler was really working for the jews.

>>509582954
You think that poster is pol ?
He’s a kike like you.
You Jews are in a lot of trouble

>>509582690 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>509586591
>You Jews are in a lot of trouble

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happen, but it should have.

>>509586342
Yeah but what if they're lying now about lying then to cover up about them lying then in order to lie now?

>>509586383
If they won it would have been by a razor thin margin with half their population dead and all their resources spent.

No threat to anyone for a hundred fucking years or more. America would still run the world, only with less jews.

>>509587069
It's simple you just have to believe them all the time, and accept that if they're lying at any time, it's only because you're a bad person and they have to manipulate you into doing what's right.

Total fabrication.

why would they do all this complicated shit when they just starved millions of soviet POWs in open field camps?

>>509582690 (OP)
jews proved themselves a fifth column
were rounded up and interned in work camps
allied bombing and the general trend of the war caused deteriorating conditions
roughly 270k jews perished in the camps throughout the duration of the war
there was also an attempt by the SS on the eastern front to root out communism in recently occupied territories, where they realized it was more effective to just round up the jews in town and kill them because most commies were jews
during the war jews pushed their tired line of "oy vey, six gorillion, money me"
it was the most retarded piece of war propaganda governments ran with
after the war it was enshrined as fact and used as justification to execute or imprison german leaders
then holocaust denial laws were set in place to prevent it being destroyed like the myths of german atrocities during ww1
then during the 60's jews started to use it to make money off the goyim and turned it into a massive industry
they also use it to extort countries out of endless amounts of money, threatening to use their american vassal to destroy that country if it doesn't pay up

>>509582690 (OP)
She doesn't look too thrilled. She was burning in the crematoriumn an hour later.k48r4

Holodomor was more fucked up and is mostly ignored

>>509587401
it was a failed mass deportation

>>509587652
Holodomor was no genocide in my book either (not in the way they pretend it was)
communist just can't farm, the brutal repression and redistribution of the harvest during broad crop failure in the USSR did hit the
ukrainians disproprotionally. The jews are innocent in so far that communism always creates famines they can't help themselves.

>>509582690 (OP)
https://youtu.be/GM-e46xdcUo?si=jRg-A8g025px7ks0

>>509582690 (OP)
It didnt happen but I wish it had.

>>509583068
Of course it happened, but the vast majority of victims were Polish and Russian POW's.
Jews were affected insofar as they were Polish or Soviet citizens.

>>509582690 (OP)
Too little, too late.

>>509588237
sorry that got debunked

Clearly exaggerated event and distasteful how it's held above all atrocities before and since. Is dying in a camp any worse than dying in a firestorm bombing, atomic bomb, starving to death, being used as bayonet practice by japs etc? Everybody died

>>509582690 (OP)
Jews say it happened so at the very least it didn't happen the way they said it did. Simple as.

>>509582690 (OP)
Waste of resources. I do7bt they got much more labor out of it than they put in. Would have been better to do the deed on the street and focus on the war.

>>509583614
Jews were a small minorty of Nazi camp inmates.
No, they weren't "extermination camps", they were slave labor.

(An idea the Nazis stole from the Soviets and mismanaged in an even more horrific way due to pervasive and massive Nazi corruption.)

>>509586365
He was one outlier and failed experiment, every other army dealt 1000 times his atrocities.

>>509582690 (OP)
Labour Camps are something a pleb thinks is a good idea.

>>509586876
>You jews are in alot of trouble
Pic related

>>509582690 (OP)
Even if the holocaust was real as jews present, it still wouldn't be in the top 5 worst genocides of WW2. It wouldn't even be in the top 100 of world history.
There is nothing Inherently special about the holocaust that requires so many memorials, museums, or years of indoctrination at schools.

>>509583702
Why the fuck was I given ameme flag?

>>509582690 (OP)
>>509583514
>>509585769
It is a fake number, and jews know it is a fake number. The "Rabbinical Exaggeration" or 'Guzma' is the explaination.

Goyim, you must first study at Yeshiva and understand the talmud to know that the 6 million figure is fake, and it is intentionally fake. In judsim there is this concept called 'guzma', which translates to 'rabbinical exaggeration'.

Whenever the rabbi wants to make a point, he exaggerates to drive the point home, to make it clear, and to get your attention. The basis for the 6 million number uses the amount of people who came out of egypt during exodus to demonstrate how serious the issue is. That original number, is 600,000. 600,000 jews came out of exodus, it is the baseline for jewish issues.

whenever the rabbi says 600,000 jews, then that means the issue is just as bad as exodus, the original number. When the rabbi says 1,200,000 jews, then its twice as a bad/as important as exodus.

when he say 6 million, thats 10 times as bad/important as exodus. you see goyim, numbers have meaning but they dont mean what you think they mean. it is an intentional exaggeration designed to catch the attention of educated jews.

>>509582690 (OP)
It happened and sHitler was a jewish agent

>>509583724
>all those atrocities from October 7th must also be real
"All those" is how many exactly?
How many Jews died on October 7th? Five? Three? What if we discount those accidentally killed by the IDF?

I think everyone wants to do a holocaust if they could, basically what nohs ark was about

>>509583798
"Holocaust" literally means "burnt offering of thousands of sacrifices at once".

The sacrifice in this context is human sacrifice of goys.

>>509588755
Interesting info, makes sense when you look at is as a modern foundation myth

>>509589090
sacrifice of pedorussian cannon fodder too

>>509588949
Even God had to do one

>>509584155
>especially from the USSR
Ironically Jews claim that the USSR had an official policy of holocaust denial. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

> According to Zvi Gitelman, Soviet writers tended either to ignore or downplay the Holocaust, treating it as one small part of a larger phenomenon

>>509583558
I did a holocaust play in 7th grade. I remember there was a scene where the red cross inpsectors came in, and we changed the set pieces to a flowery background. It didn't dawn on me until decades later.

>>509582690 (OP)
Only a couple hundred thousand killed mainly by disease. Australian police would have done the job properly like they did in the Boer War. We were the first and did it again during covid

>>509582690 (OP)
Jews caused WWII
They wouldn't have been singled out otherwise.
This is the most obvious fact that everybody glazes their eyes over.
They are doing it again with Iran.
There will be no Jew, half Jew, 1/4 Jew left alive anywhere on earth after WW3
I've never enocuntered a more retarded race.

>>509584164
No. Gypsies are a different breed.

>>509582877
He did it to his own people who wouldn’t turn over their land to the state. Lots of priests were killed as well. Sick of jewish shit desu acting like they’re victims

>>509582690 (OP)
The deaths were mostly due to supply lines being bombed, there were no extermination camps.

>>509584164
wrong. they are an even worse tumor that needs to be cut out

>>509582690 (OP)
Horrific act that was completely unjustified and unnecessary.
The original plan was to deport them all home to the British Mandate of Palestine but losing North Africa thanks to Italy's ineptitude changed the game and began the Final Solution preparations, Heydrich even proposed the Jews would be too close to the Reich still in the holy land and should be sent to Madagascar instead.

The vast majority of German-Jews were fiercely nationalistic to Germany. In fact during the Reich over 360,000 soldiers were actually Mischlings(Half Jew-Half German) and at least 80 senior officers were Jewish blood aswell.
Don't forget Hitler also aided individual Jews during his time as Fuhrer and befriended a little Jewish girl when she and her mother came to see him at the Berghof, she affectionately referred to him as "Papa Hitler" and his personal adjutant as "Uncle Bruckner" his inner circle forbade him from visiting her in 1939 and he ordered her survival when she was very ill, the inner circle overrode his order and she died in a Munich hospital from polio in 1943 aged 17. He actually wrote ""There are people around me who have a true talent to spoil my every joy in life".
Hitler was a figurehead in all honesty, he takes the blame for everything due to his position. He basically vanished from public for the entirety of the war, that's something a lot of people never mention either. The reason being he was being drugged by the scam artist "Doctor" Morell and his daily injections.

I doubt Hitler was even aware of what was happening, it was all Himmler,Heydrich, Rosenberg and Bormann and all their vast lackeys in each department.
Most people ignore that Hitler had zero interest in running the nation, he only cared for the military and gave his entire inner circle the Fuhrer authority meaning no one lower down can question any orders from the inner circle as they were granted the Fuhrers authority to act on his behalf as they saw fit. A very idiotic choice.

>>509583459
>unjustified

Nigga look around. Jews still be jewing.

>>509585650
No I'm not.

>>509582690 (OP)
The what now?

>>509582690 (OP)
Most died of starvation or disease, the numbers were much lower as well with only 300,000 to 600,000 actually dead. I don't think it was systematic or even intentional. War crimes on the other hand did happen, the Poles and Belarussians have a damn right to be pissed.
Despite this opinion I still wish the Germans won.

>>509586516
>They didn't believe in supremacy
Bait or retarded, call it

>Thanks to those brave progressive tolerant nazis for ridding the world of supremacists!
Nobody's forcing you to come up with this to justify your reverence of Hitler, just support the ideology and leave the colossal moron that brought it into fashion in the past

>>509582690 (OP)
Didn’t happen

>>509582690 (OP)
even if it happened, it was 80+ years ago. The Neanderthals need to fucking move on already. This cow ain't giving milk anymore
Only retarded worthless animals (also known as kikes or white women) still pretend to give a shit anymore.

Back in the day, holocaust deniers were a small percentage.
Today, we have holocaust-dont-give-a-fuck-ers and they are the overwhelming majority of the population, regardless of demographics

>>509582690 (OP)
it's sad but get the fuck over it and stop doing money lending crooked shit or maybe there was a reason for it

>>509587958
>the brutal repression and redistribution of the harvest during broad crop failure in the USSR did hit the ukrainians disproprotionally
No it didn't. Ukrainians were in fact some of the least affected by it.
Kazakhstan suffered by far the most.

>>509582690 (OP)
There was an holocaust? What is that? Something like that could never happen anon, stop being so psychotic.

>>509582690 (OP)
Death camps are made up. They were work camps and another of people died in them especially when supplies ran out. Gas chambers are made up they were for delousing.

>>509582690 (OP)
the what?

>>509582690 (OP)
Not as bad as Jews say, but worse than holocaust deniers say.

>>509582796
I'm a firm believer that our gypsy will fight off the Arab/Nigger hordes to secure their own gibs.

>>509588298
By who, Jews? Gimme a reliable source, buddy.

>>509589258
Чoмy нe нa фpoнтi, гa?

>>509582690 (OP)
Ooh, an opinion on history. Fuck all matters, it doesn’t change it, despite its inconvenience in you world view.

Ooh, what’s your opinion on the local laws preventing assholes from driving drunk? Pathetic

every country had camps and still has them. no ones free of guilt, ecery inch of soil soaked in blood. guantanamo bay still is operating, right? i mean, i dont like muzzies, but it still applies. jews can cry somewhere else.

>>509583724
*taps new sign*

Leftism can't defeat Jewish power. Leftism argues against the Jewish power structure by calling them "Nazis". They make AI slop of Netanyahu with a Hitler mustache. The left argues by using the literal framework of Jewish victimization which gives Jews the moral authority to declare the right to their "homeland", a safe haven from those ebil white nazis (and international laws). Leftism cannot win because you are the foot soldiers of Jewish power. You go out and riot against "anti-semetic" White identitarian political groups. You are their goodest goyim.

The only way to defeat Jewish power is to deny the Holocaust (which is also the factually correct position). To take away their moral authority. But the left can't do that, because hating Nazis is their main shibboleth. You hate the one guy who almost defeated the Jewish power structure and hating that man is like a religion to you. If you support egalitarian Bolshevikism, then you support Jewish power. Period.

>>509590306

>>509590361
We thought the same thing with our niggers, but they just joined forces

>>509582690 (OP)
Happened, the one good thing nazis did.
Not enough kikes died, and we need another one asap.
>>509590361
They do, especially here, gypsies will defend the countries they inhabit from the shitskin hordes more than the natives, because they understand that if the white man goes away, there will be no one left to build great things they can steal

>>509590590
>To take away their moral authority.
Jews don't have any. The "holocaust" is a humiliation ritual, nobody believes in it unironically, not even libtards.

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happened but it should have.
Total kike death

>>509582690 (OP)
The only thing preventing your assent into dominance is the stupidity and reality of your past. Another feeble attempt to erase or ignore your fuck ups. Try again in 50 years. Can’t erase events when those who lived through them say otherwise.

>>509582690 (OP)
It happened but it shouldn't have.
Total Jewish Domination

>>509582690 (OP)
shitty humans did shitty things, now other shitty humans use that as an excuse to do more shitty things

>>509582690 (OP)
>Holocaust
>wholly-burnt human offering to molech
>Soviet-Jewish hoax about mass-murdering and incinerating jews
>religious/prophecy implications for jews
>but it didn't actually happen

>>509582690 (OP)
>just back from ALDI
>ALL of their potatos were from friggin israel
>go to cashier, named muhammad ali and ask about this.
>he yells across the whole shop: DO WE HAVE POTATOS NOT FROM ISRAEL?
>kek
>grinning market boss comes along and hands me a luxurious lil box with a handful of german ones.
>"sorry about this"
lmfao

holocaust?

>>509583741
This, the only thing that seperate the German concentration camps from the Japanese, American, English, Soviets etc. where the gas chambers.

>>509582690 (OP)
The main thing I took away from visiting several camps and reading a lot about the topic was that the kikes made it all about themselves (big surprise) even though they comprised only half the victims. It was unironically worse to be a russian POW in the camps than it was to be a jew.

>>509589674
I suppose they just vanished right?

>>509582690 (OP)
I wish it happened, kikes and gypsies need to be culled, they're not merely a nuisance, they're a threat to everybody that's human.

>>509582690 (OP)
I'd like to see more movies and tv shows which explains why this demographic were targeted. Nobody just becomes murderous overnight and there will be bad people pushing bad people to get that way. They could make it a series for the other 109 examples.

>>509589767
The Haavara Agreement died in 1939 before the war. It was a shitty deal for Germany from the beginning, filling Palestine with fighting age Jews and backing Zionism behind Britain's back probably didn't help

>>509591251
where's the smoke?

>>509582690 (OP)
Jew here.
>opinion.
Bad.
It happened.
The numbers are an estimate, so there are discrepancies between experts. But everyone agreed that it was in the millions. At that point, discrepancies in numbers aren't as relevant to the broader tragedy.

>denial
The saddest, most pathetic part abojt denialists is that, all they have are meme images. They always rely on people not doing the actual research. Most of these images are fake, shopped, and their sources don't hold up to scrutiny.
A perfect example of this is the commonly quoted denialist Krege. He CLAIMED to have conducted a study of the soil through a machine that can "map" the underground and thus tell if there had been any modifications made to the ground, providing proof for the claim of mass graves.
In 1999, Krege claimed that, after conducting this study, he found the ground to be undisturbed.
>The problem with this?
Krege NEVER published a single peer reviewed article with his findings. He also never went into more detail as to the functionality of the equipment used and the methodology of the study.
This dude, literally just went to a death camp, claimed to have conducted a study and said "yeah, it didn't happen". His evidence for his findings?
>just trust me bro
Years later, there HAVE been studies conducted on the area and undisputed evidence of mass graves has been found.
Krege last claimed that he would publish his findings in a book he was working on, in 2006. 20 years later, this book still doesn't exist.

This is only 1 example, but most sources used by denialists suffer from the same lack of scientific backing and credibility.

>more opinion
Tbh, while I do think it's a tragedy. I feel only slightly more connected to it than I do to American slavery, that is, not a lot.
And the usage of it's reality and memory as a generalized claim of victim status and/or permanent warning for antisemitism is, honestly, turing and counterproductive. I find it bastardizes the actual tragedy

>>509591251
Apparently so since you still need to cough up the remains of 5900000 bodies.

>>509590590
It’s not the left trying to dismantle the illusion that all Jews are sacred. They simply recognize that not every Jewish action should be deemed uncritical. What’s really creepy is the number of far right willing to wipe out the Jewish peoples existence. There’s a lot of seething on the right, pretty sure Trump is looking for an excuse to bailout on Jerusalem after running on this sacred cow.

Pretty sure the left supports Israel’s existence but is still capable of questioning its stance on wiping out Gaza .

>>509582690 (OP)
Sneed my nigus aniggers

>>509591294
It's purely "othering" for the sake of trying to unite the country after they were struck into poverty in World War 1, giving the population someone to fight against.

>>509582690 (OP)
It was based since gaydolf never kiled 6 gorillian kikes thats a myth, he only killed tens of millions of slavs

BASED saviour of white race!
>t.pol

>>509591406
Wirth found a way to turn bodies into ash in the open air without fuel according to Nuremberg. With this lost technology it's easy to get rid of 15M bodies. They should have used this tech to power turbines dumb nazis.

>>509590258
kazakhstan didn't produce stuff thus could not be redistributed by force

>>509582690 (OP)
I believe in the mass killings via firing squad throughout Poland but I don’t believe they wasted food textiles oils rail infrastructure and other resources to transport people hundreds of miles to execute in an oven

In regards to camps I think they were internment camps same as every nation on earth has been doing for hundreds of years now, overcrowding cause illness disease and death, war cause supply shortage, I don’t doubt it was hard but I do doubt it’s necessity in a death campaign, the police were able to round up and execute the Jewish population in any city in under 24 hrs, from sunrise to sunset, teams of shooters, team of drivers, and team of handlers going building to building, it happened

But masturbation machines and easy bake ovens and gas chambers? I’m skeptical

True Holocaust was a covid vaccination

>>509582690 (OP)
Honestly dont care, true or not only the people affected should remember crimes against humanity. Makes no sense for one group of people act sad and sorry for another for something that happened decades ago

>>509591294
It’s really just bad people pushing others to be bad. There’s ways of rewriting history to support an agenda. Especially after all the witnesses to history are dead and can’t refute. In the end you follow your heart and find good in humanity all the while recognizing the evil in which they are capable of.

>>509588610
This. They give Hortler the most credit, and he did the least amount of work.

>>509591697
kek. you're right and obviously misplaced in spain. then again german engineering these days is almost as dead as a dodo.

>>509582690 (OP)
Completely fake. Never happened. A testament to how powerful the lying jewish media and academia is.

>>509582690 (OP)

I dont care it has nothing to do with me it does not matter to me either way weather it happened or not. It is totally irrelevant.

But if i had to have an opinion it would probably lean more towards it being greatly exagerated or invented as propaganda and being able to play victim for a couple of hundreds of years.

>>509582690 (OP)
That's a Catholic Polish girl but /pol/ doesn't see anything wrong with murdering and kidnapping Polish children.

>>509582690 (OP)
Would

>>509591416
>They simply recognize that not every Jewish action should be deemed uncritical.
Agreed. I have no issue with critics.

I disagree with the rest of your post though.
>>509591294
Most documentaries I've seen do explain their reasoning in depth, even those published by jewish sources.
>>509590181
>numbers
No, they were much more
>exhaustion and disease
Yes. That isn't disputed. This was part of the Nazi plan. Their plan was to kill many of them that way, they well fully aware that they did not have enough food to sustain the population in the camps. The conditions for these diseases to proliferate were deliberately not prevented or gicen enough attention. It was basically depraved or intentional indifference.
The Nazis had the same plans for the slavic territories, they planned to exile the slavic population to Siberia and reduce their numbers in great proportion through the same methods, forced labor jnder unsustainable conditions.
>>509584570
>So the jews did nothing to bring this negative attention on themselves whatsoever? It was all a fantasy?
No. This is a deliberate oversimplification.
People of jewish ancestry did have an important role in the conditions leading up to the war, as they did in the Russian revolution. However, it's obviously more nuanced than how both sides make it out ot be. Neither side is 100% guilty.
However, Nazi racial claims are completely unfounded, have no scientific backing, and, despite all their research they were never able to leave the real of pseudoscience and make it actual science.
That is the primordial error of Nazi ideology. Collectivism based on unscientific claims. A collectivism that swipes over all nuances as if they didn't exist.

>>509591518
Come on now. That just sounds like a naive or reductionist or even disingenuous take on an extremely barbarous socio-political era. When people start getting rounded up and murdered, there's always going to be a myriad or widespread motivations, which is what Hollywood should create movies and TV shows about. They always promote the horrors inflicted but they never explain the factors which made people turn against them.

>>509582690 (OP)
~200,000 jews died of starvation and typhus while the German government tried heroically in vain to save them from themselves.

>>509592218
Name some documentaries please, I'm interested.

>>509592283
No, fascists don't really believe in anything and use othering as a way to keep people in line. Hitler's loyal followers don't care for why they're doing it, they just do it to keep their power and status, and if the delusional old man has them in his will? All Hitler says is Jump and then they say "how high".

>>509583223
5 years?

>>509592544
those camps are disproven, they had no camp commander, no personal, no fuel deliveries

>>509592089
If you are liquidating why would you process and catalog your prisoner intake?

Police battalions just took them outside the city and had them lay on the ground, occasionally a doctor would educate new shooters where to aim(if you shoot back of a jews head it pops like a grape and you get bone fragment and brain all over you, this caused a lot of shooters to request different role, supposed to aim between the shoulder blades at the spine/neck), next truck they would walk the people a little further past so they never saw the bodies

In many of the recorded cases the Jews would be loud, screaming, yelling, resisting in the city center as more and more were brought in and every time when they realized what was about to happen to them they would all go silent and there would be a quite calm with everyone looking at eachother

They learned this the hard way, they got more efficient at it over time, which the Holocaust wasn’t that long, their persecution maybe but the killings by police battalions was over the course of 11 months, something like 70-80% of the Jewish population of Poland, it wasn’t the entire wars duration

My only reading on the subject and my source for this being police battalion 101s logs journals and testimonies

They talk about guarding train carrying Jews back from this region, so that’s why I’m skeptical it was to kill them, I assure you they had no problems doing it where they captured them

>>509582690 (OP)
>the holocaust
fake. nothing ever happens

>>509591888
Makes a lot of sense for certain agendas to move beyond their past crimes toward a new future. We learn from our past. There is nothing wrong in mourning for those lost - that’s often part of the lesson. “Nothing to see here” attitude is a a bit sus.

>>509592660
the IDF can do it

>>509592697
Happened outside my little vacuum: fake.

>>509582690 (OP)
israel owes their existence to it and jews owe their financial success and political influence to it too. its a net positive for them overall

>>509582690 (OP)
it didnt go far enough

>>509592538
He had an entire nation of "loyal followers" by your logic. Entire nations are made up of varying classes of people of varying socioeconomic statuses. Not everyone is a blind "how high sir" caricature. You talk like a reductionist who only wants to swim in shallow waters. I'm keen to hear a deeper take. Enjoy your night, pal.

>>509582690 (OP)
Didn't happen
Most people that died did so out of hunger (accidental) or disease
The showers and zyklon B was a lie
They were labor camps, but you can't make a jew work no matter what

>>509582690 (OP)
Its biggest lie of our time.

Yes, there was concentration camps, prison camps and labor camps. Yes, lot of horrible things happened on those camps for many reasons. No, there was no conspiracy to exterminate jews, all of them numbers have been exaggerated and most of "disappeared" jews moved to another nations aka mostly to US. US had open doors for jews, they didnt have even simplest track of them and US didnt know, and still doesnt know precisely how many jews are in US. Last one is undisputed fact.

>>509582690 (OP)
Exaggeration, simple as

>>509592658
Evidence? Take ownership. Does not mean you’re part of it or enabled it. You come from a fucked up family tree, you strive to be better; not try to justify or cover up who you are. We give you a fair shake: a chance to be who you are today rather than some tool trying to cover a past so much larger than yourself.

>>509592943
Either they were keen on wanting power or were too afraid to go against the Nazis due to their authoritarian ruling system. There you go, that's the "varying" statuses you were prattling on about. By the way what's your criteria of a "deeper take"? Is it just me sucking your cock going "Hrmmm yes, the entire Jewish race are actually evil murderers and they deserve to die! Oooh yeah baby soo deep! I'm soo smart!"?

>>509592943
If you want a mile you take an inch at a time, when your opponent complains you stop and wait, then you take another inch, you do this over and over again until you’ve taken the mile

If you want ordinary men, a 40 year old cobbler who has never so much as thought about killing someone in his life to start murdering Jews as a uniformed officer, not just murder but mass murder, 11 months wipe out entire lineages, you start with an inch

It didn't happen, but jews having fantasies about masturbation machines speaks volumes.

>>509582690 (OP)
It’s not an opinion, it’s based on facts not jewish lies.

>>509582690 (OP)
OP is a faggot, as usual

>>509592822
you, like every other pearl clutching flying spaghetti monster holocaust believer in this thread, has done nothing but yap this entire thread. zero substance, zero proof, all emotional conjecture.

whether you're an evangelical boomer or a fat greasy jew you should just blow your ugly head off so the world can move on from this rhetorical niggerhell you want to keep us trapped in

>>509582690 (OP)

you're telling me that in fourty-four
fighting a two-front war
they killed more and more
that doesn't make sense to me
https://vocaroo.com/1hAKlVRsu8oP

hi KGB
eat shit

>>509593369
the IDF can do it(shooting civilians) so could the most antisemitic people in history

>>509592658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3ihyWDHF4&t=39s

>>509593354
>civilly seek out basic and inoffensive information around Holocaust motivations
>gets back disingenuous or abusive logical fallacies from bad faith poster
It's so weird how so many people these days are completely turning on obnoxious Jewish people, how they communicate and what they say to others. It's completely bizarre how this global wave of antisemitism is building. Enjoy you night, buddy.
>>509593369
Thanks anon, will look into this reference material.

>>509594625
Alright then, man. Why do YOU think antisemitism is on the rise? I want to hear your thoughts.

Guess you had to be there.

>carlos.jpeg

>>509594597
why is he alive?

>>509582690 (OP)
It didn't happen but it should've and it will happen again

>>509584649
They claim that they were

>>509594929
I guess you have the answer lol

>>509583317

>>509583880
And that is a good thing.

>>509595006
wow that is interesting, so he was not in the chain of command as a camp commander by his own story
that matches the telegram we saw here ordering to all camp commanders to stop the holocaust

>>509582690 (OP)
1) gas chambers are a hoax, they were either chambers used to delouse clothing, actual showers, crematoriums (to dispose of corpses which is normal), or faked after the war
2) the 6 million number is a complete fake, and jews used that magical number before the war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xqd5dm-csc
3) jews werent systematically persecuted, tens up to hundreds of thousands served in the german armed forces. most jews that got sent to the camps were considered at high risk for subversive activities.

>>509582690 (OP)
Math is antisemitic

>>509583317
My FUCKING image file just decided to de select itself for fuck sake it just had to be a post with no text.

>>509582690 (OP)
It obviously didn't happen but it should have.

>>509583082
This. Im.more arsed about the millions of white people killed in WW1 for kings sport

>>509582690 (OP)
>271k top
>it was a massive sacrifice for their god
>hitler was involved bc they need a bad guy for the west

>>509585177
How many incineration camps would there have to be for this to be possible

>>509595217
name of that telegram?

>>509595589
what name? why would you care for evidence that goes against your religion?

>>509595435
>hitler was involved bc they need a bad guy for the west
atrociously retarded take

>>509582690 (OP)
that it's rapidly diminishing relevance evaporates when the last victims/perpetrators are dead
and in terms of bodycount and ratio of slave camps to death camps the soviets absolutely mog the nazis making me wonder why so much focus is on one and not the other

>>509595261
This.
Also he was accused of being too lenient towards jews in the events following Kristalnacht. Specifically he instructed some of his top brass to
>protect jewish lives and property or else the situation will escalate
Also jews have you believe that the entirety of WWII is about Hitler vs jews. It really doesn't seem like they were even a huge focus for Hitler. They were more of a backdrop.
Sure he didn't like them but nobody did. European nations repeatedly tried to push their jews out onto other nations because nobody wanted them around.
Really it was about undoing the Versailles treaty and the treatment of Germans in other nations.
JEWS being the main character of WWII is exactly like that meme that says
>whoever did this crime is a sick twisted monster
>oy vey that's antisemitic!
Essentially by making themselves the main character, they are admitting that they alone worked to fuck Europe and the world.

>>509595657
im interested in it, surely you must have it

>>509582690 (OP)
Unironically
>it didn't happen
>but it should have
>and it will happen again

>>509582690 (OP)
For all the efficiency and innovation of the national socialists they really didn’t think through the logistics of interning millions of people. Their neglect of this issue allowed the Allies to build the narrative used today.

>>509584082
Is that Harvey Weinstein? I miss that nigga like you wouldn't believe.

>>509583724
Two wrongs don't make a right

>>509595820
If it didn't happen, then did Hitler do something wrong?

>>509582690 (OP)
I don’t think it matters that much either way and it should just be ignored atp. In terms of 20th century genocides it’s not even top 2.

>>509595725
Because the Soviets were all kikes. The holocaust narrative is literally just kikes describing their own crimes and attributing them to the Germans, while Germany in historical fact was actually innocent of any and all of that nonsense. They had camps, but none of them were death camps.

>>509583239

>>509582690 (OP)
>no gas chambers
>less than 6 million
>>509583737
>a british atrocity propaganda operation
American and English actually (partially based on Jewish lies). Then Soviets picked it up. Soviets built the "gas chamber" in Auschwitz.

>>509594625
As I previously expressed, it's a very nuanced issue. You can't point to a single cause as to why the jews were designated as the target. You could argue that they weren't, since there were other targets as well, like slavs, gypsies, homosexuals, etc.
I think that the particular focus on the jews lies mostly in the racial nature of nazism. Hitler clearly makes a difference between nation and state as it was seen in Weimar Germany. Hitler saw Aryans as a nation, everyone outside of this group, who interferes with the group is an enemy. Jews, represent an enemy "nation" in positions of power over the Aryan nation. Under these assumptions, it's clearly unjust and why you should remove these people from power. Then, the "Jewish Question" is developed, which presents the jews as the antithesis of the concept of "nation", so the logical step is to eliminate the opposition.
Communism is present in the same light, as there were jewish communists who argued for "International Communism" thus errasing the concept of nation (although this can be debated).
If you actually read about Russia at the time, Lenin was no longer in power. Hitler did not fight Lenin, he fought Stalin.
Stalin opposed the idea of "permanent revolution" and "international communism", he advocated for "socialism in one nation". To me, this terminology is deliberately strangely named. "Socialism in one nation" sounds like a tryhard attempt at avoiding the term "national socialism". The main difference in between these ideologies are the racial components.
Although I don't think that Nazi Germany is leftist.
Moreover, while it is true that the Russian Revolution was lead by many jewish activists, and that many of the main proponents of communism were jewish, once Stalin came to power, one of the first things he did was to remove most, if not all, jews from positions of power, he persecuted and killed thousands.

>>509595744
more or less irving's analysis, which is not entirely correct in my opinion. he puts emphasis on hitler having mild goals but everyone in germany knew that access to the east was the only way for germany to survive (mostly for crop space but also for other rarer resources). this had been discussed long before hitler came to power. likely the real perfect war for germany would have been 100% transparent and friendly cooperation with france and britain (impossible because of freemasonry but whatever) and a total war in the east to dismantle the soviet union and to claim its resources.

>>509596103
i mean no?
stalag 13 was famously a place allied pow's would go and not be seen ever again, explicitly a rocket launching and prisoner disposal facility
auschwitz at it's height had such a massive intake they were shooting anyone who fell behind quota
plenty of them earned the title death camp
unless this is pedantry in which case even then you are wrong since a minority of the camps were explicitly for mass execution

>>509591518
>It's purely "othering" for the sake of trying to unite the country
Human beings don't work like that, have never worked like that, and will never work like that. The idea that you can just pick a group at random and "other" them and then proceed to reap the benefits of an exponential explosion of prosperity and productivity is a myth. It's a myth designed to explain away the fact that jews in Germany actually were strangling the country to death, and that their removal was the reason for the following prosperity.

>>509596529
Well, you're wrong. There were no German death camps whatsoever. There is zero evidence. None.

>>509595752
not enough, I care more about preventing ongoing genocides

>>509596421
I get that. I don't really know what that particular line of theory says about the inevitable conclusion that Stalin would push West. Surely pretty much everyone can agree that the Soviets were arming up for something huge and that war would be basically guaranteed with them before too long. As I understand it (obviously I'm no expert) but didn't Hitler attack Stalingrad as a preemptive strike?
Also people who like Hitler should remember that he was under extreme stress and wasn't exactly himself towards the end.
Things would have been vastly different if Churchill wasn't around and if Chamberlain did get to make a deal with Him. Maybe it would have been Europe vs the Soviet Union instead.
I'm not an expert though and I don't pretend to be. I just like reading about this stuff.

>>509594625
As to why antisemitism is on the rise today, this is a deliberate oversimplification.
Statistics say that overall racism is on the rise, American racism is now higher than it was right before the civil rights movement.

Antisemitism, in particular, has also seen an uptick because Israel represents the biggest ongoing violent conflict. It is also deeply related to U.S. politics. Israel is at the center of the political scene globally.
The rise of racism, leads people to revert to previously established stereotypes. It's not that "more people are noticing thes behaviors", it's that people start focusing more in categorization as a consequence of these divisions, thus relying on the previous conceptions of what makes up these categories.
>>509595950
Yes.
Many people still died, he expropiated private property. Even if you forget about the jews, slavs still suffered major blows and losses, and Hitler drafted plans for their displacement.
Alongside the killing of mental institution pacients.
Many other things as well.

>>509582690 (OP)

>>509596673
the currency system of the third reich and their anti feminist reforms are interesting the other stuff not so much its 2025

>>509596908
rofl so you dont have it, gg wp.

>>509597035
I could find it anons post it all the time given that its unfalsifieable you would say they didn't mean jewish workers or something.

Do you deny the gaza genocide?

>>509596972
The Slavs basically begged to be crushed. Every opportunity they had to ruin relationships, bite the hand that feeds, and run their mouth, they did. They didn't miss a beat. The Poles were basically schizophrenic kikes and they made a point to publicly go back on agreements and also to harm Germans.
Also fuck the Czechs too.

>>509582690 (OP)
Idk

>>509582690 (OP)
It happened

>>509597026
The currency system was the reason for the entire war. Germany was attacked, maligned and demonized specifically because they created a fair currency system not based on usury, and globalist bankers were no longer able to control Germany through debt. That alone meant they had to be killed and vilified, because a country with no usury is a threat to world wide jewry.

>>509597306
bottom up distributed currency inception creates a trickle up economy

>>509597227
>The Slavs basically begged to be crushed. Every opportunity they had to ruin relationships, bite the hand that feeds, and run their mouth, they did. They didn't miss a beat. The Poles were basically schizophrenic kikes and they made a point to publicly go back on agreements and also to harm Germans.
>Also fuck the Czechs too.
That doesn't change the nature of the events. Hitler still saw them as an inferior race, and seeked the displacement and eventual erradication of the slavic people.
Which makes it morally wrong.
These ideas were further developed as the war went on. But they always formed part of the ideology, since it's very beginning, as Hitler describes in Mein Kampf. So the arguments about their behavior during the war doesn't change anything.

>>509597496
the US had the one drop rule and jim crow law, germany was progressive

>>509597496
I've got a copy of mein kampf right here. I admittedly haven't finished reading it, but I'm not remembering Hitler having the destruction of Slavic race as one of his big goals.
Actually, I don't even remember him saying that about jews. I remember him saying
>they were a problem
>they were sneaky
>had too much influence and power >degenerate and corrosive and a risk to Europe
>etc
But I don't remember him saying they had to be eradicated as a race. Are you sure that was something Hitler said about them as a race? Or was he talking about them as a state? That I absolutely remember him saying.
I'm not an expert and my memory is not great so I want to stress that I'm really just talking off the top of my head here.

>>509597306
Hitler's plan didn't work though.
Debt is currently necessary as a control method.
Hitler planned to centralize the economy and make it so the monetary policy was now controlled by the party with the goal of getting rid of loaning at interest and other such practices.
However, this NECESSITATES imperialism. As the national economy cannot sustain itself. It requires the injection of funds in order to grow, otherwise it's only option is to become stuck, because there are no resources to fund new developments.
Communist/socialist regimes so run into this problem, however, their solution is to make it so that the state artificially injects funds, in the short-term, by printing money to fund public projects, but obviously leads to hyperinflation.
This is why Trotsky advocated for "International Communism" because without total control over every single aspect of the productive process, it's impossible to make this system work.
Hitler knew this, and his choice was imperialism.
He even offers a justification for this in Mein Ka.pf, in a short passave where he condemns imperialism, WITH THE EXCEPTION of when the current resources of the state are unable to sustain the population, then he says that it's morally justified to seek imperialistic expansion.