Thread 509754533

USA loses to China again

https://x.com/stats_feed/status/1941720261465927956

>>509754585

@grok what is PPP?

>>509754533 (OP)
mogged again

>>509754533 (OP)
>CHINA HAS BIGGEST PP
kek. lets just skip to the nuclear war already. I DEMAND NUCLEAR WAR

>>509754533 (OP)
Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) is an economic theory and method used to compare the living standards and economic output of different countries. It involves adjusting exchange rates to account for differences in price levels, allowing for a more accurate comparison of the real value of goods and services across nations. In essence, PPP helps determine how much money is needed in one country to purchase the same quantity of goods and services that can be bought with a certain amount in another country.

its cheaper to buy things in China and shit is getting expensive in the US, so this is probably true.

>>509754533 (OP)
Very berievable and cledible. Implessive.

>>509755001
good thing we invented "nominal gdp" so that we look like we are the best for this one specific graph

>>509754533 (OP)
Japan is bigger than the Europoors. Hirohito’s dream has become reality

>>509754585
>>509754793
Yes PPP is what you use to compare country's GDPs against America's because of inflation. So when the dollar inflates it causes the USA's nominal gross domestic product to inflate more than other countries. So its not a measure you can use to compare 2 countries. Understand? Enough now. Moving on.

>>509755001
This must be outdated, I Mexico passed Spain recently

>>509755001
Yeah see >>509755210 We don't compare the USA to other countries using that because of the way inflation "inflates" our nominal GDP more than it does to other nations.

>>509754533 (OP)
PPP is bullshit.
Iphone, mercedes and nvidia cards have almost the same prices across the globe

>>509755133

True, I absolutely despise China's slimy and sneaky tactics. Having said that we need better leadership not a clown in white house if things have to improve.

>>509754533 (OP)
>>509755001
>0 african country
Why?

>>509755133
nominal is the proper way to use for international economic comparsion
PPP is not meant for that

>>509754533 (OP)
>>509754793
>poorer than guyana in Gdp per capita (PPP)
Our do we square this away USbros

>>509755289
Kike

>>509754533 (OP)
why are amerifats worried about being #1? youre here midday, youre not being productive. It was bound to happen

>>509754533 (OP)
>biggest economics

saar redeem the statistics now

>>509755223
I thought* kek

>>509755402
the usa doesnt produce anything so its obviously fake if it shows us ahead. use basic logic. china is obviously the biggest econmy

>>509755433
Most people are poor in America, but the rich here stole a lot of money.

>>509755402
You guy'll just say anything. PPP is literally what was designed for that. The USA's nominal GDP goes up with inflation FFS. Fuck /pol/acks. /pol/acks are so dishonest.

<-This, is the real measure
Muttmerica was finished 2 weeks ago.

>>509754533 (OP)
and it will very soon lose to India :)

>>509755551
The USA is a major VPN service provider and this thread is proof of that.

>>509754533 (OP)
wow a nation of 1B has a larger economy than one 1/3 its size??? holy fuck man!!

>>509755551
We're a "service economy". A nation of people who need to get up and go to work at 8AM to provide "service" to other people who are also working in the "service economy" because capitalism requires endless growth, and can never contract, or else it collapses. This is also the main reason why we have openborders immigration. /pol/acks are responsible for all of these policies.

>>509754533 (OP)
Its crazy that China is only 7-8 Trillion ahead with its size and population. Thats like one Japan. Thats it.

>>509755675
typical that you dont even get how that works. your grandma is a VPN for free

>>509754533 (OP)
INDIA MENTIONED ON INDIA ACCOUNT

>>509755210
>inflation
not inflation you retard, but exchange rate.

>>509755796
esl cringe

>>509755677
Its actually not much of a factor when you realize that many Chinese live rural, on land they pay no property tax, rent or mortgage debt on. And they're allowed to do absolutely fuckall but live leisurely until the day they die. Any many of them do just that. Americans should be so lucky.

>>509755857
Both but inflation being the primary issue.

>>509755637
How is Taiwan competing with world powers, but Puerto Rico being the same size has Carribean nigger music as their greatest accomplishment? Asians really do allot all their xp into intelligence. Truly a marvel. Imagine if the scientific breakthroughs if the west and the east worked together

>>509755763
>Its crazy that China is only 7-8 Trillion ahead
I don't think it's crazy.

You need someone to operate that foodstall you pass by on your om from work.
That foodstall will increase your quality of life, but it will not make the foodstall chef a millionaire and triple your country's GDP.

Stop thinking like a Kike, and you will understand China's number is impressive.

>>509755144
You are so fucking uneducated it's not even funny anymore. Regarding the size the usa has, in relation to Germany (tiny in comparison) it's a fucking joke you niggers and the bugs are only 4 to 6 times bigger in numbers. I mean think about it (if you can) for a second what Germans would do with such a landmass. We are smaller than some states of yours and yet at this position. You try your hardest and should be at atleast 80,like China, but the lazy fucks you are, at nearly 30. Imagine a country your size full of germanic mocking you with real economic, real work ethics and real work.
Damn. Even in relation to our resources, compared to yours we are in the ranking. You Americans didn't deserve the landmass, the country itself. It's a shame. Superpower you say? Look at the numbers. Big India with such a fucking big landmass, resources and industry. Russia is the biggest country on earth, more resources than a country should have, but is on par with us. China too, but not on par. We, our little country, against all nations sabotages against us, is in the game. With only 8xmillionen people (the x cause I don't believe the statistics depending migrants)

You should be ashamed! China too. Being bad at something with the potential (land, resources, economics, military etc) but l failing so hard.

>>509755919
wow I'm so Jealous Chang but if this were the case why don't you need to get paid to post here?

>>509756223
Its the case whether you choose to accept it or not. Or post cherrypicked examples of run down shacks or not. You can't undo the truth sorry.

>>509754533 (OP)
China is actually rich now, it doesn't need poor people parity (PPP) statistics which is more of a jeet/vatnik cope.
Imagine I go to Thailand to fuck some ladyboy. Some Russian is also there. I offer the trap 50 dollars while Ivan only offers 10. Do you think the bussy will say the two offers are the same because it's the same poor people parity in Russia and the UK?

>>509754533 (OP)
China is a developing nation.

>>509755857
Exchange rate is a function of inflation you fucking idiot. Inflation is excess demand related to supply or lack of supply versus demand. Exchange rates reflect the demand of a given currency versus the alternatives. Usually USD, as all currencies are either pegged to or influenced by it, thanks to their investors

>>509754585
>a $20 starcucks in NY is more economy than a $3 starcucks in Beijing

>>509754533 (OP)
There's only one country in current world anyway.

>>509755908
nope

>>509754533 (OP)
so by that logic if USA had the population of China, it will have a PPP of over 135T? Germany/Japan around 108-115trillion
>>509755275
both are bullshit (GDP + PPP), the guy who made GDP in 1930's during Great depression said it should be used only a for a while and then find something better

US isn't trying to beat China. US serves China. All it's reps are bought and sold in bulk daily by Chinese interests and have been a few generations now. You work to pay taxes to protect China interests. When you make money you use almost every bit of your money to buy made in China. You are a servant of China.

>>509757509
>so by that logic if USA had the population of China,
There would be more homeless americans, and house prices would rise.
The amrican PPP would not increase.

>>509754844
You forgot about the quality, New Metro ride is not equal in value with a Beijing metro ride, you know.

>>509756319
>cherry picked
this is the norm in China. We all know it. Fact: nobody is trying to immigrate to China. When people want to move to Asia they want to move to Japan.

China is a disgusting dirty nation on par with India.

>>509757105
>Americans can move to China and buy a mansion for the cost of their 2 bedroom apartment home
>btw, China is more wealthy guys

>>509754533 (OP)
There is no international trade without the USA allowing it by not actively sabotaging the just-in-time supply chain. China’s economy is export oriented as a result of their inverted demographic pyramid. China will collapse after the USA sabotages international shipping by no longer policing sea lanes while arming pirates. All nations must be on board for the just-in-time supply chain to function. Any disruption no matter how small is catastrophic. One bad actor can ruin it for everyone.
>This would lead to nuclear war!
Nuclear war is beneficial to the USA. It would make the US population 90% white after the cities are obliterated. The population of the USA is more spread out unlike the population of China which is mostly along their coast. In the event of a nuclear war the USA will nuke countries like Brazil and Mexico that aren’t even actively involved in the conflict as a contingency measure to make sure they don’t rise up in the power vacuum after the war.

>>509757880
>New Metro ride is not equal in value with a Beijing metro ride, you know.
The New York metro is not only much more expensive, but it would also be infested with rats.

https://youtu.be/rSgvI1ELfqQ?t=173

>>509758227
Americans can afford cars.

>>509756341
But you are in Bongland, mate, with no bussy, pakis&jeets, and a TV license.

>>509758227
Though I'm always curious, why you faggots never move to China? Have you ever even bothered trying to learn Chinese?

>>509758213
Your faggot-filled giant floating cans have been invalidated, sorry.

>>509758473
>why you faggots never move to China?
Because you have yet to pay me the costs it would incur. Bitch.
Pay me for my lost earnings while I learn their language or Shut the fuck up.

>>509755210
China depreciates their currency relative to the USD to boost exports. Hence they strictly have more inflation than the US.
High GDP PPP means they produce a lot of garbage and dump it on global markets because locals don't want what is being produced.

>>509758227
See, ppp is inadequate - those equal services aren't equal

Brasil mogging your asses
faggot ass niggers poor faggots

>>509758227
>infested with rats.
you mean russniggers?

>>509754533 (OP)
>PPP
>Highchair economics
Does baby China want his bottle?

>>509758210
No they can, you'd get sent to a re-education camp (rightly so)

>>509755001
>nominal
Hahahahahaha oh no no

>>509754533 (OP)
I wonder which one fakes their numbers?
No I don't, it's called tofu dreg for a reason.

>>509758780
No, but I forgot to mention the train seats in China are 50 times more comfy, and can rotate to face the windows.

>>509755223
>>509755538
We're growing at like 3% now because of tourism and renewable energy being basically free

>>509755675
>he doesn't know that the extreme super majority of VPNs are ranged banned
mutt education
yeah you're so rich and prosperous bro, Weimarica numba won, everyone else is just a chink, i'm a chink, your neighbor's a chink, chinks under your bed tonight stay strong

>>509754533 (OP)
PPP is a bullshit metric. Having lived in both the US and China I can say with certainty that the USD goes a hell of a lot farther in the US than the RMB goes in China, especially in comparison to the incomes we make.

Imagine your richest provinces have incomes ONE THIRD that of Mississippi, yet proportionally pay prices 3-4 times more than people do proportionally in New York. That's China.

>>509758664
Shouldn't China pay you for learning their language? Besides are you really that mentally retarded that you can't learn a second language in your spare time.

You're actually telling me you're more retarded than even border hopping spics? Pathetic excuse though the fact that you're a China glazer does in fact indicate a very low IQ.

In the meantime in reality everyone across the globe including chinks are still trying to learn English so they can immigrate or do business with Americans.

>>509759309
Mutt delusion is real.

>>509758606
Correct, battleships and aircraft carriers are obsolete, the future of naval warfare will be very small vessels armed with drones. The USA will be arming pirates with such equipment and the just-in-time supply chain will be broken indefinitely. Any country that isn’t self sufficient in oil, fertilizer, and food is doomed.

>>509758939
Nah, you could.

>>509759374
>Shouldn't China pay you for learning their language?
No it should be you, because you're the cunt begging me to move to China.

>>509759064
Where is this guy in the photo from, because is British accent is fake.
It's really fucking bizarre how hard the chinks work to create these "organic" streams of propaganda.

>>509759125
I deplore you to actually go to China before you continue glazing it as the savior of communism and humanity

>>509759381
Ah yes, the butthurt chink. Why the memeflag? Is it because you are in a Western country, chang?

Everything I said was right, and you know it, KEK.

>>509759520
>Where is this guy in the photo from
Sheffield.

>>509759404
Peter Zeihan - level delusional. Muh trade protection. Muh pirates. They will be reeducated in half a year.

>>509759505
No, you're the faggot begging to move to China.
>its better than all the white countries
>easy pussy as a white guy
>everything is cheap and everyone is laid back
>omg le heckin walkable cities

You're telling me despite all this you won't even try to move to paradise. You'd rather spend an hour glazing china on 4chan then even look up ways to immigrate to China. This is why you're actully miserable and always will be. No amount of walkable cities or a cheap chinese plastics would ever change that.

>>509759730
>jew memeflag cope
Houthi's proved aircraft carriers are obsolete though.

>>509759520
They really really really want to have a good global image. Its probably part of their plan to get more shitskin immigrants to fix their declining population.

>>509759730
What’s delusional about the USA arming proxies to combat their geopolitical rivals? It won’t be safe for cargo ships ever again.

>>509759820
>No, you're the faggot begging to move to China.
I can't afford to learn a new language. Pay up, bitch, or shut the fuck up.
>its better than all the white countries
I'm sorry the facts ma you butthurt.

>>509759957
>I can't afford to learn a new language.
Do you have to pay to learn a foreign language in China? Its literally free. You have endless resources on the internet. You're just retarded.

>Chinese people wageslave for Americans
>Americans buy their car thinking it was made by Japs and then fuck their women in it.
Oh no!

>>509759879
He already said so here >>509758606
and I agreed with him >>509759404
now he’s seething.

>>509759957
>he unironically thinks china is communist and is going to one day seize all of the private property in the country and centrally plan like mao again
LMFAO
actual mental illness

>>509760097
>Do you have to pay to learn a foreign language
I would be losing earnings rom my current job. It's on you to compensate me if you want m to move. But the problem is you're so bitch made you can't even process this thought.
>wageslave
Those cars are made by machines>>509755637

>>509754533 (OP)
There’s only 50 million French people out of 8000 million on earth yet were in the top 10. Insane.

>>509760211
>seize all of the private property i
??
Why would they need to seize anything? They just build more housing. You must be dumb as fuck if you don't comprehend this far.

>>509754533 (OP)
>top 10 economics
Yup, ESL thread

>>509760511
Indonia is accelerating, and so will other BRICS countries like Malaysia and Vietnam.

>>509754533 (OP)
The PRC cooks their own books, and the actual size of their economy is about 40% lower than the Chinese claim it is.

>>509754533 (OP)
if jeet economy is so good why do i see them here in germany?

China's numbers are fake and gay. If you believe or trust china at all you are either a chink shill for the CCP or the most naive retard alive.

>>509760679
>and the actual size of their economy is about 40% lower
Thanks for the number.

Following proved logic we should do the opposite of what this glownigger says, and reduce Muttmerica's number by 40%

>>509760565
>Why would they need to seize anything?
Because that's literally the end goal of marxism, to seize the means of production.
Kek, good job exposing yourself as just some chink larper.
China isn't communist and is slowly moving away from it like Vietnam.

>>509760983
>Because that's literally the end goal of marxism
Nah, it's to improv poeple's lives.
You can only seethe harder while China circumvent your autistic rules for how they should behave and act.

>>509760660
>Indonia is accelerating,
Good for them and their 280 million people lol, one day they might only be 6 times worse than the French

>>509755289
Trump is the perfect person to deal with china. He's making xinnie the pooh look like a big stupid bitch to his own people by forcing him to do our bidding. Trump got china to tell iran to keep the strait of hormuz open and iran obeyed.
You are the clown.

>>509754533 (OP)

This is why we're restricting mainland Chinese from coming to the US. We don't want to expose them to the terrible living condition here including adverse interactions with violent minorities. Why are they insisting on coming over since their country is better?

>>509760866
It was a South African economist who calculated these numbers. The only people this hurts are the Chinese people, nobody else is forced to invest their labor wages into their own country, nobody else is paying for inflated Chinese real estate, and nobody else stands to lose when the Chinese economy collapses.
Chinese people are slaves, and little pinkoids like yourself are their slave masters' useful idiots.

>>509761201
It's kind of balanced out by indonesians living among Indonesians, while French live among africans.

>>509761126
>Nah, it's to improv poeple's lives.
LMFAO Holy fuck what a self own.
You've clearly never read marx.
>You can only seethe harder
Your country doesn't even believe in its own started ideology lol

>>509758210
you can't buy property in most of SEA (except Japan). as the other anon said you get sent to fat camp

>>509761292
>forced to invest their labor wages into their own country
LOL, I see this makes you very butthurt.

>>509761126
You should renounce whatever citizenship you have in the west, cowardly commie wannabe, and go live in china. Go give it a try. If you don't it's proof you have no faith in your convictions and are just talking shit online. I'm not even a communist and I lived in china for several years so it should be easy for a retard like you to do.

>>509755210
Yes nobody would ever try to game this ever

>>509758689
>High GDP PPP means they produce a lot of garbage and dump it on global markets because locals don't want what is being produced.
So let me get this straight. China is simultaneously full of dirt farmers who know worse poverty than anything people in the US have ever experienced, while also being full of uppity snobs who are too good for cheap chinkshit products?

>>509756218
This is why they destroyed Germany before you could become too powerful to stop

>>509758473
because im not a rootless parasite (like the judeoamericans moving where the job is) and i can admire the greatness of china japan sk from the distance while trying yo fix my shithole.

>>509761408
>Your country doesn't even believe in its own started ideology lol
You're just butthurt because they are practical and use a little bit of good from each ideology.

I know it makes you mad.
You're autistic and you only want them to act in 1 way. Otherwise it just messes with your brain and you get assblasted if they don't.

>>509754533 (OP)
>Biggest Economics

>>509761459
mutt moment
You should go eat watermelon burger.

>>509754844
>so this is probably true
No its a retarded assumption that the people in PPP country aka third world shithole will only want to buy the available cheap shit and not the stuff that Americans buy, you can easily disprove this idiotic theory by looking up the prices for say rtx5090 or a shitty toyota and converting your salary into toyotas. This theory only works with food that's produced domestically, which is fine if you're a third world animal that lives paycheck to paycheck but if you want something more it falls apart.
Basically this is just a cope invented specifically to make turd worlders feel less poor.

>>509754533 (OP)
Funny how 0 people want to live in China, and all the Chinese people want to live here. I'm fine with sending evey chink-amerivan back to China, they can participate in the great Chinese society. WHY DONT THEY?

OP btfo by common sense

>>509761429
Not at all, you fake communist. Turn off your memeflag and show your nose, Israeli, you sound like a fucking Jew.
The PRC is a slave plantation passing around company scrip to keep their slaves working. The slaves get housed, fed, and medical care just like slaves. The money is an illusion because it's all worthless anyway. You will never create generational wealth, your house is owned by the government, your property isn't your property. That's what slavery is. The Chinese are all slaves.

>>509754533 (OP)
Yeah wtf. I heard that India was shit? But they’re better than all of Europe?? EXPLAIN??

>>509758035
>immigrants are our strength
You need to go back, mutt.

>>509758473
>Though I'm always curious, why you faggots never move to China?
You can't just move to a country just because you feel like it. That only works if you're a brown person moving to a western country. Every other person in every other scenario has to jump through 1,000 different hoops to complete the immigration process. And when it's finally over with, you'll be completely separated from your friends and family.
I hate China. I think it sucks. But I've always hated this stupid cop-out argument whenever anyone mentions advantages that other countries have over us. "Why don't you just go live there, then?" Because I want this country to be better so that my friends, family and neighbors can have improved lives. It's not that hard to grasp. People just use these boomer-tier platitudes to shut down any legitimate discussion or criticism about the state of America.

>>509761833
You glow. Nothing you say is true.

>>509760416
>I would be losing earnings rom my current job
You're not getting paid to post on 4chan are you? If so, you have enough free time to learn a second language.

No faganon here will ever go live in China.

Every anti-american shithead poster here is a terrorist and should be sent to alligator alcatraz.

>>509754533 (OP)
nig

>>509761833
Glorious Zhongguo is tearing your judaic shithole a new asshole while not breaking a sweat.

Apologize.

>>509762012
You got a brain, use it to think about what I said.

>>509761333
Because wealth attract parasites and parasites don’t create wealth so third worlders move to the first world until violently kicked out or until the first world becomes the third world leaving only countries with a 0 tolerance policy on foreigners left standing

>>509762079
You're not learning fluent Mandarin as an adult. It's a total waste of time to even try

>>509762141
Romanians got gassed with the jews for a reason

>>509761126
>marxism is when good things so that non marxism is when bad things
>all non communists are evil and want to destroy the world
amazing intellect, did you learn that in a Chinese school?

>>509762237
>amerinigger edumication

>>509761953
You hate the argument because it exposes your faggot NPC brain, in that societies like China are closed authoritarian shitholes with no freedom or transparency, meanwhile you use CCP lies to trash the USA. In summation, kill yourself slowly and painfully.

>>509761678
>practical
You mean they literally abandoned their ideology?
Stop coping, it's okay to admit it.
>I know it makes you mad.
It makes me laugh that communist trannies delusionally think china is still marxist with the end goal of a classless, stateless society lel

You have no actual economic ideology though and are just a blind giga chink nationalist. I don't care about that at all. It's boring. Enjoy your online ethic war over shit that doesn't matter.

>>509762150
Here is the official apology form.

>>509761721
Mind your own business, gerwoman.

>>509762357
>CCP lies to trash the USA
the jewSA is trash with or without your cope

I'd happily be last on the PPP/GDP/DEI/STD index, if it meant all the shitskins left.
I literally don't care about dick measuring on the international stage.
Just want to be left alone, in a country of my own people.

>muh GDP per capita!
Neoliberals like you belong on a cross.

>>509761554
Not even close to what was being said. But also yes, there is a lot of wealth disparity in China and a billion people.

>>509761600
China isn't great, its a shithole. So is Korea. Only Japan is worthy of praise in Asia.

>>509762384
>You mean they literally abandoned their ideology?
Nah, they take money from your corporations and redistribute it into their infrastructure.
An it makes you seethe like no tomorrow.

>>509762357
Why does it trigger lead poisoned boomer brains so much to acknowledge the simple fact that China's outcompeting us? It's simply due to the fact that China didn't go all in on liberalism, black lives matter and DEI bullshit. Demographics are destiny and we threw away our destiny by throwing away our whiteness. 70% of newborns in the USA are non-white. We will be firmly losing to China from now on, do you understand? We can't win when we're 70% brown. We only dominated because we were a white country, and now that's over

>>509762624
Your impotent rage is almost endearing

>>509761937
Its not but its a indication of where people want to live. Why? Because a philipino still lives a better life in his own shithole than he does in China.

>>509754533 (OP)
>India 3rd
>poo in the streets
>all semi talented leave for jobs in other countries
>3rd
Kek

>>509762697
>We only dominated because we were a white country
correct. demographics is destiny

>>509754533 (OP)
China has been the biggest in PPP for many years. Why do you bring this up now?
Big population = Big PPP. What's the deal?

>>509761953
Its not a cop out at all. Its a genuine question. Sure its not easy but they're not even trying to enter what they are describing as paradise on earth.

I would understand if they don't want to do it for moral reasons of ethnicity and birth right but he obviously doesn't believe in any of that. All he cares about is walkable cities.

I'm also merely pointing to the obvious fact that if China were an economic dreamland to live and work in everybody in the world would be trying to get in, legally or illegally as they do western countries.

Like, not even a vacation though? Cmon you fucking faggot.

>>509762171
low IQ projection

>>509762103
>THEY HURT MY FEELINGS
>THEY SOHULD BE IMPRISONED!!!!
I had no idea things got this bad in the States. KEK

>>509762697
For the reasons you just said. They love niggers, faggots and Jews.

>>509762512
Keynes was a child rapist.
Your ideology was made by pedophiles.

>>509762713
Cope, communism failed. China is a disgusting shithole.

>>509763082
China arrests people for subversion of the state. When China does it I'm sure its based but if white person wants to do it its evil and wrong. kek.

>>509761953
You only think it's a cop-out because deep down you know the gripes you bring up are cop-outs. Praising china is fucking retarded as well. I actually lived there, it is not praiseworthy.

>>509763093
Your lolbertarian idols are Jewish, Ranjeet.

>>509762697
Because as of 2025 its till not factually true. Thats the reality of it.

>>509757880
you're right. The metro in Bejing is relatively clean and people know how to sit down and shut up. The metro in NY is filled with junkies and shitskins and smells like stale piss

>>509762662
>they take money from your corporations and redistribute it
So they do business deals with capitalists?
Most of their economic growth has come from private capitalist firms btw.
The entire ideological foundation of the country is a fraud.

>it into their infrastructure.
An economy isn't built on infrastructure, brainlet.
>An it makes you seethe
Lmao projection
You're literally admitting you me that you are wrong lmao

>>509763204
>China arrests people for subversion of the state.
Not gonna, that IS pretty fucking based.

Just because I hate CIA and all your other collagues.

>>509762012
You haven't said anything substantive in this entire thread, just gay little one off remarks that have no basis in reality. Get a job, loser.

>>509763258
>adam smith was Jewish!!
Your entire economic ideology was founded by pedophiles.
Imagine openly supporting keynesianism and global governance lmao

We need a free market dictatorship and fast

>>509762697
>>509763279
Furthermore the reality is that China has some great developed cities and thats about it. The country remains poor, they're still a polluted shithole where many of its people still think its acceptable to shit and piss on the street in broad daylight.

The only reason you would ever push the narrative that China is a futuristic advanced sci fi country is if you're a communist pushing that ideology or an actual chink.

>>509763328
When are you going to show you're flag already. There must be a term for people that are butt hurt at America such as the butt hurt belt. Are you Ukrainian by chance?

>>509763306
>So they do business deals with capitalists?
Sure, they can do that and be a communist country at the same time.
Seethe harder faggot.

>An economy isn't built on infrastructure, brainlet.
You can't have good economy without good infrastructure. Brainlet.

>>509754533 (OP)
Make believe metric
The truth is that China is below the world average in GDP per capita. That's right. Below average. Fucking kek.

>>509763629
>The third world is shithole is the one with sci-fi cities and bullet trains
>The first world is the negrified ghetto filled with junkies
GDP is so true and legitimate.

>use real GDP as mode of comparison instead
>average poorfag in the US makes $35k/yr
>average drone in China makes <$18k/yr
they are a bloated country of 1.4 billion, of course their PPP will be higher, it doesn't mean anything. no one in China is buying the cheap garbage they export to the rest of the world, they are too busy getting welded into their apartments.

Here's a chart comparing the wealth per person in Poland and China. Look at how Poland has taken off in recent years, even as China has stagnated.

>>509763478
Adam Smith wouldn't be a lolberterian, retard. Your idols are Friedman, Hayek, and Mises, all jews.

>shartmericans immediately coping hard and defending a clearly inferior unit of measurement
at least germans have the decency to admit that our nation is turning into a muslim shithole and way beyond the point of return

>>509763564
okay okaay, I will stop now. I had no idea all my China praise would hurt your feelings THIS much.

>>509763739
You're comparing the worst 5% of America to the best 1% of China. And even then, what's your claim to fame? Brightly lit skyscrapers full of empty rooms, and some transport infrastructure. What kind of accomplishment is that?

>>509763838
living on less than $20k a year is not a good life for the average person in China faggot, China sucks. it is an overcrowded shitheap with more debt than the US and very little to show for it, go ahead, post another picture of the upside down trains in St. Petersburg I MEAN Shanghai.

>>509763626
>population of over a billion
>all that housing
>all that development
>no cars on the road
just dead empty nothing, China's future.

>>509763962
Ok Eglin bot. Your shitty dying country is over.

>>509764647
Based Canada showing the Mutt who is boss.

>>509754793
except the quality of goods isn't the same across all countries, that would assume you're paying for the same item across every country which is impossible

>>509754533 (OP)
Trump did this!

>>509754533 (OP)
>russia
NO!

>>509755622
>pollack i summon thee
you called?
nominal GDP compares size of economy
PPP GDP is measure invented to compare living standards - Chinese earn less but also pay less - for more or less the same product - so Poor Peoples Power index was invented to compare how much you would spend for the same things living in the US... its propaganda tool on level of whole economy - it was meant to compare purchasing power of individual - his "living standard"

>>509755275
>Iphone, mercedes and nvidia cards have almost the same prices across the globe
Wow a bunch of faggot shit that is meaningless to life. Also earth is not a ball.

Oh wow Russia doesn’t have that much greater PPP than Britain. I thought it’d be higher.

>>509756218
>what Germans would do with such a landmass
fill it with with turks?

>>509762809
>>509762697
Because Herschel Goldbaum refuses to admit that he is nothing without his white hosts whom he has parasitized off of into irrelevancy and poverty and the Chinese do not want to be his new golem.

>>509754585
Ppp confuses and infuriates the uneducated magat

>>509764550
>>509764088
>uhm China is like bad because... (I dont know what the fuck I'm supposed to say)
>they like... Don't have enough cars on the road? Or some shit...

Wow, China can never recover from this BTFOing. Well done Eglin mutt

>>509755275
>we euroaches investigated ourselves and found we shit costs the same everywhere else
>that means everyone else eats le big mac and drinks 10L coke just like fat euroach

>>509764647
Maybe if their precious Orange Nigger cuts even more taxes for billionaires the whites left in this shithole will suddenly have an epiphany and want to die in Iran.

>>509765915
Shutup Wumao shill!

The Chinese cannot compete against the White Masterrace

>>509764647
>lost to rice farmers
>lost to camel riders
>lost to towel heads
>losing ukraine
>lost iran


What would 600lb white roaches do if they realize their entire existence was nothing but lies of the white devil?

>>509754793
poor people points

>>509766467
they would do what they've always done

>shart themselves
>consume mcdonalds via 4-easy interest-free payments on Klarma
>screech about Freedom
>proclaim victory

>>509761793
This is exactly true. If you go to these places with supposedly similar PPP, you find out their homes are and all associated amenities are cheap low quality garbage. Water heater is a thing under the sink that holds 3 gallons, microwave is like in hotel rooms here, stove looks like what we take camping. Have been to a number of these places. PPP is obvious cope/horseshit invented to cover for commies.

>>509754533 (OP)
>if we make up a metric in which poorfaggotry is a boon, the biggest shitholes compete with the US!
What kind of global south cope is this?

>>509756319
>>509761937
chang(s) your vpns are virtually ineffective here. Eat bat or get off my board k thx.

>>509758664
>Pay me for my lost earnings while I learn their language or Shut the fuck up.
It always interesting watching you retarded communist fags larp. You're a sniveling little bitch and its evident by the way you type. You're either already in china or have been a cuck in a capitalist hellscape that you are too much of a pussy to directly do anything about let alone find your footing. Please do us the favor of just ending it here today. I promise you this place would be better without you.

>>509754533 (OP)
When will you creatures shut the fuck up and stop acting so uppity?

>>509766967
This whole thread is changbots and europoors kvetching

>>509766099
bot

>>509767066
Pooland bro has a point because their economy recently exploded. It doesn't get reported on because Poland also just so happens to be the most illiberal country in the EU and is quelling its migrant problem simultaneously. check out Poland if you want to see a prospering country that used to be poor, then compare with China.

>>509767135
>>509767382
>this is what China should strive toward
>if you disagree, you're a bot

>>509767066
And that's all these inferior people can do

>>509767530
Tankie or diaspora patriot?

>>509755001
do GDP / population next

>>509767530
>The longest traffic jam in history occurred in China in August 2010, lasting 12 days and stretching over 100 kilometers. It was caused by a combination of heavy truck traffic, road construction, and increased coal transport to Beijing, leading to severe congestion.

>>509754533 (OP)
Lol. Kvetch more lizard boy.
PPP per capita rank:
1. US ($84k)
2. Germany ($72k)
3. France ($66k)
4. UK ($62k)
5. Japan ($53k)
6. Russia ($48k)
7. China ($26k)
8. Brazil ($22k)
9. Indonesia ($16k)
10. India ($11k)

Nominal GDP per capita rank:
1. US ($87k)
2. Germany ($55k)
3. UK ($54k)
4. France ($48k)
5. Japan ($33k)
6. Russia ($15k)
7. China ($13k)
8. Brazil ($11k)
9. Indonesia ($5k)
10. India ($3k)

>>509765066
Everything except for food comes from the same few factories in China

>>509754533 (OP)
>India better than than japan, germany, france and the uk saaar

>>509767530
are those... CARS? AAAAAAA NOOO I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAAAAA

>>509766967
That is classic

>>509767820
>>509767897
>both using stats from 2010

Impressive.

>>509754533 (OP)
>Sell off a majority of your manufacturing base to China
>The US is still in second place for the biggest economy

Take the US manufacturing that was outsourced at the detriment of Americans out of China and watch how far they fall down that list.

>>509768355
Insane how China can have such a high unemployment rate when people can reach their jobs so easily with government subsidised transport. There’s no excuse to be missing work.

>>509768355
>Just get in the shitskin tube
No Chang

>>509754585
peepeepoopoo

>>509768641
>>509768760
It's easy to run a healthy economy when you don't import infinity niggers at the behest of your kike masters.

>>509769264
yes, every city in America looks like this, so move to China, OK?

>>509769264
By the way, you didn't answer my question

>>509754533 (OP)
At least we're free, though.

>>509754533 (OP)
>>509754793
Not that I wouldn't be happy with this ranking, but GDP is a meme. Brazil and the US have higher wealth/income inequality on this list but we have a massive tax burden on sales so the average person can consume much less than could be shown here on a GDP per capita PPP basis compared to the US. GDP is a meme measure.

>>509768355
>Morality & Quality of Life
Listen, chigger, you and I both know the industrial hellscape that is china is a direct response to exchanging peasants for wealth. Nobody buys the vpn, chang.

>>509767897
I don't understand, why my shithole is in the top ten.

>>509754533 (OP)
This is like that headline
>the average person in China now consumes more protein than the average american
But it's not animal protein, which is much more expensive. I still think the average Chinese person in tier 3 cities are probably better off than the average american in 2025. That's a huge maybe though. Both are overworked and don't make much money relative to what things cost but at least China is safer and has decent public transportation.

At this point, because I hate them so much, I'm actually starting to get hard at the thought of learning mandarin and working against our gay retarded government

>>509771622
Chink or tankie?

>>509754533 (OP)
Why is the US such a big pile of steaming shit?

>>509754793
jewish math; saved you the time. grok doesn't know shit and won't talk about the questions that need to be posed & discussed because Elon gets paid by jews via the chinks who fund his shitty batteries.

>>509771700
chink

>>509755433
Guyana found oil a coupple years ago and became ubber rich Emitates style.

>>509763626
>they can do that and be a communist country at the same time.
Their official ideology is state CAPITALISM

>>509755001
>Muh Nominal
Pathetic.

>>509765334
You're fucking dumb.

In America a big mac costs 10 dollars, in China it costs 2 dollars.

Thus America spends 5 times as much money to produce the same actual good.
Thus for the nominal GDP of America to be the same as that of China in real terms, America's nominal GDP has to be 5 times that of China.

Purchasing power parity equalises this.
It's not about people paying less it's about correcting the disparities in value of currency in order to measure the actual real economy - that is the goods being produced.

It's PPP or nothing - you cuck.

>>509772789
Ah portuchink, still drooling over trannies?

>>509771700
I'm white. And idk what exactly a tankie is, but my position is simple. Its, "fuck glowies and fuck the juden in our government"

>>509773133
Was it you who called me a Chink yesterday?
I am still not a chink.

>>509754533 (OP)
keking at g7 - The goym7

>>509754793
>what is PPP?
A way to say American tourists have more purchasing power than anyone else.

>>509772789
>America a big mac costs 10 dollars
It's at $5.65, China is at $3.65
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/big-mac-index-by-country

>>509754585
FPBP.

Imagine seeing India as #3 and not being suspicious.

>>509775304
No it was me, and you’re most definitely a chink. There’s no way China hasn’t dropped honorary status on your ass for how much you shill their narratives.

>>509776623
There are only two missing from the top 10: Italy and Canada.

But I like to consider all the Gulf Monarchies as only one country and that would make the UK fall off to.

>>509777254
I don't care, it was an exemple out of the top of my head.
The logic and the arugment remain and are sound.

>>509777391
Why would that make you suspicious, mutt?

>>509777531
I never shilled Chink narratives. But anyway, how can I get my gibs from Chinks? I am interested.

>>509777626
>The logic
Alright, compare housing prices based on income.

>>509777711
>why would India being in the top 3 make you suspicious?
Are you retarded or something? America wouldn’t be flooded with Indians if their economy wasn’t shit, so them being #3 demonstrates how stupid PPP is.

Just look at it this way. People from #1 and #3 on that list are desperate to get into #2. This wouldn’t be the case if #1 was a better economy than #2.

>>509777860
Yeah, PPP just measures how valuable the USD is in each country.

>>509778047
It’s honestly amazing that the US is #2 considering how heavily the dollar has been devalued over the last decade+.
But then again the dollar is the foundation of the international economy so it’s not too surprising.

>>509777785
It's supposedly factored in the purchasing power parity.

>>509758473
pigskins on pol moving to china is like dalits moving to the usa to scrub toilets. you don't speak the language, you will never have citizenship, because you are a low caste white. high skill high caste whites will be invited over and given priveleges, needless to say those people are never going to posting here.

>>509777860
>Their economy being shit

It still is shit in that they are poor.
However it's the third LARGEST economy in the world.

>>509778170
>factored in the purchasing power parity.
Yeah, which means if you bring in a stronger foreign currency you get more than the local currency does.

>>509778139
Well yeah, everyone is dependent on it for foreign settlement.

>>509777391
Even in nominal terms, India would only be 1 spot lower. Their sheer population size is what drives them up. Per capita on the other hand...

>>509778217
Largest doesn't mean shit, per capita is all that matters for economic data.

>>509754793
>and living standards
Yeah, I'm sure living standards are better in russia or indonesia than they are in western countries.

>>509778217
Doesn’t that mean “largest economy” doesn’t mean shit when you don’t account for the amount of people in said economy?

Just like I told you last time: GDP per Capita is the gold standard for this discussion because economic activity is inherently a byproduct of people conducting commerce.

>>509754533 (OP)
Meanwhile Germany, the pearl of European industry, is behind India.

>>509778445
Exactly. This discussion is dumb without per capita.

>>509756150
I still can't help but notice that everything in China looks so... European. When are they going to create their own architecture, fashion, culture, etc? Even their women dye their hair blonde and red. What's up with that?

>>509754533 (OP)
But they told me Russia was broke and poor because of "muh sanctions" LMAO

>>509778583
the tax payed to the irs is counted towards gdp per capita.

I'm sorry but people on pol are so uneducated sometimes, they can't understand basics. Reddit, I hate all their politics, but they don't get stumped as much with this PPP shit.

There is no real life interpretation to this data. Obviously it's sandwiched together. It's not a ranking of what country would be best to live in.

Believe it or not you can have the #1 economy and 95% of the people live in the gutters. Economic metrics are not a simple measure of quality of life. India on this chart should've been the red flag.

WAZZO WAZZO
ME LIKA DA FLIED LICE
ME FLAP A DICKY RONG TIME

>>509778730
that's true of every country, learn what a food desert is. poltards like to larp about rural living then realize the only grocery store within a 100 miles is a literal dollar general selling expired produce at best. tennessee's minimum wage is still 7.5$ lmao

>>509778617
India would drop down to Africa tier, but per capita isn't perfect either, it'll be dominated by small country who operate as wealth safe haven, like Switzerland, Singapore, etc...

>>509778651
China is fairly westernized so probably never.
>>509778662
And government spending is counted in GDP. What’s your point?

When the discussion is about economic size, all economic function logically will be included. Note that I do not say or imply that a larger economy is inherently better. The theory is that GDP per Capita is the most viable metric to assess economic equity since economies with wealth disparity will be dragged down by their numerous poor.

>>509778448
Per capita if acconted for purchasing power parity, yeah sure.
Otherwise we're just measuring access to dollars instead of economic output.

>>509778583

A country with few rich people (say, Iceland) gets mogged by a country with lots of poor people (say, Romania).

Romania is way more relevant than Iceland economically wise although the Icelandic enjoy much more wealth.

GDP (ppp or nominal) is sort of about what % of all economic output is actually going on in that country.
In a way.

So India is the third most relevant country economically. And the third that produces more economic vallue.
And it's the third by far. By a great distance to the second (USA) and the fourth (Russia).

>>509778998
Of course, but the quality of life of citizens in those countries is undeniably high so is it truly an issue for their GDP per capita to be high as well?

That’s the entire point of GDP per capita: trying to figure out how much economic equity each citizen can theoretically have. It’s definitely an ideal that doesn’t mean everything is great for the people, but it’s better than the alternatives.

And it’s better than the alternatives SOLELY because economies with high wealth disparity get fucked in GDP per capita because high wealth disparity means you have a lot more VERY poor people than you do VERY rich people. The exact sort of economy we want to avoid.

>>509779035
> A country with few rich people (say, Iceland) gets mogged by a country with lots of poor people (say, Romania).
So? Poor people in Iceland are better off than poor people in Romania.

>>509779000
the only thing that matters is ppp for the individual. gdp per capita is irrelevant when the majority don't reach that ever.

>>509779035
>Per capita if acconted for purchasing power parity
Yeah, China is 72nd when you do. The US is 9th.

>>509779035
Iceland median income: $57k
Romanian median income: $2k

Iceland being wealthy is why they are able to attract the attention of people like Trump, and it’s also why they are able to resist his courtship.
Trump can offer them something nice, but they are perfectly happy rejecting him as well. This is what it means to be a rich, small country in the modern age.

>>509779277
It's not to measure who are better off.
It's to measure who has more power measured in the vallue of economic output a given country produces.

As I said to you earlier: Romania has a highest % of the world economy than Iceland does.
Therefore it's GDP is bigger. As there is more economic output (or wealth) being created in Romania than in Iceland.

Also, probably Romania has more rich fags and more billionaires than Iceland.

>>509779432
Ok

>>509779406
lol that’s complete shit. Individuals in India are desperate to migrate to America yet don’t really give a shit about trying to get into China.

Clearly their #3 rank on the PPP chart isn’t being felt by the individual.

>>509779439
>Iceland median income: $57k
>Romanian median income: $2k

Those numbers are retarded. Do ppp. Iceland will still be on top.
And you're confusing Iceland with Greenland.

The point though is that ROmania is more relevant than Iceland and ... and Romania produces several times the wealth Iceland produces.

>>509779227
that's because usa corporate structure requires growth YoY by means of inflation. meanwhile chinas a dictatorship that can enforce deflation if it means better social stability. if u lived in usa you will realize everythings getting more expensive while china everything is getting cheaper. given this, gdp per capita is only relevant to the price of equivalent goods in your country

>>509779440
> It's not to measure who are better off
> It's to measure who has more power measured in the vallue of economic output a given country produces.
What’s the point in China having more “power” if the Chinese people aren’t better off?

You’re talking in circles. The only APPROPRIATE use of PPP is in Russia’s situation when they were demonstrating that their people were not impoverished by the western sanctions and being cut off of the swift network.
It didn’t prove that they were powerful. It proved that their economy was insular enough to where their people didn’t feel the affects of sanctions.

That’s it. This is also why we don’t fucking sanction China lol.

>>509779632
>do PPP
No, it’s not applicable here. See
>>509779693
PPP is not a good metric for comparing economies or deciding which ones are more powerful. It’s more of a metric of insularity and the ability of an economy to resist foreign pressures.

>>509779524
indians who can go to america are already top performers in their country, that and they already speak english which allows them a seamless transition, meanwhile china's default language isn't english that and they don't have an easy immigration system.

indians earn per capita more than whites in the usa

>>509779653
> that's because usa corporate structure requires growth YoY by means of inflation
Stopped reading here. Inflation hurts YoY growth of corporations so this statement is pants on head retarded.

>>509754533 (OP)
Understated, China is 2.5X the US in real terms, easily
US is insanely bloated by services and middlemen charging each other

>>509779828
> indians earn per capita more than whites in the usa
Well when you chop off the lower half of your bell curve but include the lower half of the curve for white people that’s typically what happens.

Thanks for proving that you don’t understand statistics. Now stop replying to me retard lol.

>>509779911
poor whites in shithole states are just as bad as the slums of india, there i dumbed it down for you.

>>509779834
look at mcdonalds revenue and their food prices from 2018-2025. lol

you pigskins are so stupid no wonder elon wants more indians here.

>>509780267
> poor whites in shithole states are just as bad as the slums of india, there i dumbed it down for you.
Indians think this, yet they want to come live with the poor white people.

You’re not fooling anyone, pajeet. The entire world knows India is literally a shit country.

>>509754533 (OP)
Imagine if Indian Americans left and joined the Indian team

Whites would lose everything

>>509779771
It is.

GDP per Capita PPP -

Iceland 81.215
Romania 49.213

Per Capita is *THE* good metric to compare economies. Because it takes into account the price of shit.

So, in general, as in officially, the nominal GDP per capita of these two countries is the total amount of economic output divided by it's population.
So at first glance it appears Iceland is nearly 30 times better off than Romania.

However, once we adjust to see how much it costs to create shit in one country relative to the total wealth available to that country we realise that Iceland isn't even twice as rich as Romania.

Why is it like this?
Because the nominal just presents the official prices, average things may be 30 times more expansinve in Iceland but that does not mean that Iceland produces 30 times more things than Romania.
In fact despite Iceland being 30 times more expensive, they aren't even able to produce two times as much.

My explanation wasn't good was it?
Don't be a fool about it - read about purchasing power parity and you'll be convinced it's the real way to compare economy.
And by the way, you'll also realise how unbelievably poor the USA is once you stop counting access to dollars as wealth and focus on actual economic output.

>>509780432
indians only move to sf, la, seattle, austin, newyork, miami. you won't find them in any shithole majority white states like alabama.

>>509780600
>it is
It’s not. I already told you exactly why PPP became a thing and it’s only been used properly in that very context:
When Russia was demonstrating that their economy was resilient to sanctions.

You fags don’t understand the context behind these metrics you’ve married yourselves to.

>>509779693

Russia's economy has a massive jump with PPP because ... guess what? Russia can still produce practically the same shit but with much less cost in dollars.
That and the fact that they are sort of starved of dollars but continue to prouduce wealth. Yeah, it's the same for the rest of the world.

>>509780618
One of their biggest destinations is Atlanta, but you knew that pajeet.

>>509780738
This post makes no sense. Russia is the one who started this reporting in PPP to counter US sanction narratives.

>>509780780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Atlanta

atlanta is majority black, indians are never moving in with poor stupid whites lol.

>>509756218
We would find more ways to engross bureaucracy, over-regulate shit, and find ways to autistically do Mülltrennung anfängt probably invent New ways to Charge Rundfunkgebühren (I haven't paid that shit in two years, lmao, I dare you ARD-ZDF to find me, niggers. Also Robert Habeck, firmer minister of Economy is a SCHWACHKOPF)

>>509780699
You're just trying to cling to the nominal bullshit.

I'm not going to reply more to you because you do not accept reality.
Purchasing power parity exist to adjust the prices in different countries and therefore give an actual preception of the economic output of different countries instead of measuring how many dollars they can have access to in a given year.

A big mac being produced is still a big mac wherever it is produced.
If it costs 20 dollars or 2 cents is financial trickery.
The wealth is the big mac, not the dollars people on a giving country are willing to spend on it.

I've gone to establishments in Lisbon in which the same food had prices for tourists and prices for locals.
The wealth / economic output is always the food being served (which is the same) not the tricks they play on tourists.

>>509780916
Now this pajeet is insisting that not only are there no poor whites in Atlanta, but that pajeets are ok with moving to a place surrounded by poor niggers.

So this demonstrates that rich Indians would rather live around FUCKING NIGGERS than live around their own poor.

>>509780984
I’m simply trying to educate you as to why this obsession with PPP makes you look like a shill. This metric only became popular for the (valid) purpose of Russia demonstrating their economic resilience against western sanctions.

>>509780838
That's fucking retarded.
Read a fucking book.

>>509780512
That's a great idea. You should all go home and create your superpower by 2027.

>>509781259
lol you’re one stupid nigger

>>509781107
Purchasing power parity is popular at least since the 1990s when I started to see it.

>>509756150
>be born a robot
>sole purpose in this world is to hold bags
And they wonder why they always end up rebelling against humans.

>>509781036
rich blacks are better than poor whites, shocker.

>>509781356
PPP only became a talking point amongst stop clowns when covid knocked China out from potentially eclipsing the US economy in GDP.

Prior to 2020, you fags were making these exact same threads except they were about “the inevitable eclipsing of the US economy by China”. Once Covid threw a wrench in that you fucks were silent until Russia popularized the PPP metric, again for the valid purpose of demonstrating their economic resilience against western sanctions.

You chinks are so retarded it hurts.

>>509781515
>there are no poor blacks in Atlanta
lol you’re one dumbass pajeet.

>>509781539
>when covid knocked China out from potentially eclipsing the US economy in GDP.

China already surpassed the USA in GDP.
It was like in 2015 or 2014... During Obama...
Sure, it was in purchasing power parity, but that is the only measure that matters.

It was big news back then - but then again, probably not in the mutt media.

>>509781721
>but that is the only measure that matters.
It isn't, it's a nominal adjustment to GDP. It doesn't paint a clear picture of economic realities as yes shit is cheap in China, they however spend fuckall on household consumption. Basically all cash they earn gets tied up into property which isn't measured by PPP, as they have some of the worst real estate markets compared to income.

>>509754533 (OP)
Nigger