When did you realize how shitty and dumb people really are?

>>509829503 (OP)
2020 nigger riots when i was reading through reddit

>>509829503 (OP)
When I was 5 and my dad would pleasantly end calls then immediately start cussing out whoever he was talking with

>>509829503 (OP)
When Trump continued mass immigration for his entire first term and his followers claimed he didn't

>>509829503 (OP)
Kindergarten when the girl besides me sat cross legged in a dress with no panties

>>509830451
Behind* too stoned fuck. Never look behind you bros.

>>509829503 (OP)
>BLM
>Coronavirus
>Trump
I didn't realise how retarded the world was prior to these. Both sides too.

>>509829503 (OP)
When people try to show me "evidence" that the Bible is 100% true. Sometimes you gave to realize people are just too low IQ and will never understand something. Its sad but true.

>>509829574
Also 2020 but when people were selling toilet paper on the street because they bought it all.

>>509829503 (OP)
Every day

>>509829503 (OP)
Somewhat in high school but o could avoid group projects and such. The brutal blackpill of society came during my first job at a Fred Meyer (owned by Kroger) working st Starbucks (licensed location)
>I hate all foids
>I hate shitskins
>I hate Manlets
>I can know tell trailer park trashy whites by physiognomy who are subhumans
>I learned of the simp/cuck trope, which in my case are the managers and wanna be types
>learned that I can never trust any coworker and at best try to get them as a reference for law enforcement (I wish I didn’t go to uni for accounting with bad gpa and no prospects)

during covid and ukrainian war

>>509829574
Yea, if im being totally honest 2020 in hindsight, covid19, mask mandates, BLM, made me realize collectively, people choose and act with a 75IQ, despite 85-115 being the average IQ. Its an interesting phenom, I wish there was a some studies to prove it. Its definitely observable. I think it disproves democracy, which is why their is incentive to not study that or keep any evidence of it suppressed.

>>509829503 (OP)
I think it was 2019 or somewhere around there, extended family gathering. Boomers and Gen X talking about house prices, crypto, stocks etc. Mind you I'm half the age of these people, as I tried to explain to them that if your house has doubled in value, you cant just sell it to buy a much nicer place, because that much nicer place is 2x what it was last time you looked. They couldn't grasp the concept of it. Then they were complaining about not investing in crypto earlier, I told them that as total amateurs, they would have got Mt Goxed because they knew nothing about cold wallets. Again, nothing. Then talking about capital gains, tax stuff and they understand nothing.

These are the people in high ranking positions at their jobs. They represent the smartest of their peers, and they are all economically illiterate. Unit price for supermarket items? 'membership fees' on retail credit cards? Depreciation? They know absolutely fucking nothing. I can't talk to them about shell companies, polling methodology, fucking ANYTHING that would help them make informed decisions about voting and economic policies.

The majority of the voting population are so fucking clueless about economics, it is truly insane. And if you are fucking clueless about economics, you are going to get swindled by politicians who fuck you, and the rest of us, over by voting for them because you don't understand any of what they are saying.

when retards decided to intentionally tank the world economy because of a Chinese flu that only killed unhealthy boomers

>>509829503 (OP)
Some time in highschool I suppose which was a little over 2 decades ago.
It really wasn't until maybe the start of this decade that I had given up on everyone.
I found that people are not only fucking retarded and shitty but they WANT to be that way. They pride themselves in it.
They intentionally make themselves retarded for the sake of their perceived team..their tribe. Willingly stampeding into certain doom.
Dumb fucking herd animals.

I know it all sounds like edgy teenager bullshit but man oh man has it been on display in full force near constantly this decade.
I am shifting my goals in life to just get away from all of this. I spent the first half of my life hoping we will all uplift and humanity as a whole will move into new enlightened futures. I'm going to spend this second half of my life decoupling myself from the rest and uplifting myself.

>>509829503 (OP)
Don't know but when I started studying logic that really contributed.

>>509831624

I wrote this a while back
https://musingsofmakitana.wixsite.com/home/defining-npcs

Read the section 'NPCs; A spotting guide', I go into it.

>>509832667
Hahah I like it. You should break it up more and make it into a donation page for helping NPCs become player characters or redpilling NPCs.
> Please Donate to save an NPC today
> $1.00 monero

>>509832667
An NPC is someone who has not studied any logic at all. The real redpill is to realize that we are all NPCs. Most of your thoughts are conditioned responses to stimuli. In that sense we're all NPCs. Ever wonder why everybody thinks 90% of people are NPCs and yet nobody thinks they themselves are an NPC. Do the math, it doesn't add up. Thinking of yourself as a "free thinker" and pointing fingers at others and saying they are NPCs is in fact NPC behavior. What differentiates an actual thinker from a mere robot is not what pops into your head prompted by outer stimuli, but whether or not you take that response and process it further using grammar, logic and rhetoric, for example the Socratic Method. Anyone who thinks they have logic innate, don't have to study it, and thinks they can just sit down and think for a bit about whatever and they're not like those other people who are NPCs is hopelessly enslaved.

>None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

The Trivium, study it.

And Euclidean Geometry, which was removed from public schools in the 1950s, it was the last vestige of logic in public schools.

https://youtu.be/hq_tG5UJMs0

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

>>509833856

>>509833856
Here are some links.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/508076799

>>509829503 (OP)
Around the age of 4 or 5

>>509829503 (OP)
when I realized Jews were right and 99% of people are goycattle

>>509834204
Christ is King and right about the jews

>>509829503 (OP)
I thought I had it figured out when I was a kid, but I think it really sank in when I was around 25, when I realized I could also be pretty shitty and dumb myself a lot of the time.

>>509834265
Christ is literally king of the Jews.

>>509833856
>Thinking of yourself as a "free thinker" and pointing fingers at others and saying they are NPCs is in fact NPC behavior.

Nah desu I've heard that a lot before and it reeks of Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson audience midwit behaviour. There's a sizeable chunk of the population who believe that not only are they smarter than others, but that they are also wise enough to know that even they aren't 'free thinkers'. Yet they get their opinions from jew worshipping e-celebs. They aren't free thinkers.

I can draw a big fat fucking line between myself and those who call themselves 'free thinkers' because these are the people who unironically believe that having an opinion on everything is a bad trait. I don't give a shit about your social norms, if you think that telling everyone your opinion about things is bad because they might dislike you, then you aren't a free thinker, because you live your entire life in an overton window constructed within your own mind. Too afraid to learn what might be a common belief, too afraid to upset norms and most of all, too afraid to be right, because you might be wrong.

This has nothing to do with 'studying logic' which should be an intrinsic human trait, this has everything to do with people trapping themselves within their own mind by being afraid to speak their own original opinions and would rather say nothing, than to risk being wrong. Fuck that.

>>509829503 (OP)
In my late 20s.

>>509834927
That was quite a tirade. You haven't studied any logic have you? Because only people who haven't studied any logic think logic is intrinsic or "should be intrinsic" whatever to make of the difference in nuance there. I posted a ton of links, especially in the thread I linked. Study any of those and you're going to change your mind about logic. I don't listen to Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, I posted a video with Sam Harris, if you haven't watched that speech, watch it. In it he does an experiment where he asks you to think of a movie which is perhaps the best part:

https://youtu.be/hq_tG5UJMs0&t=232

Being an NPC is thinking with emotion and not being able to put your ego to the side and have a disinterested discussion about a topic. Studying logic does away with that. They removed grammar, logic and rhetoric from the masses, but they still study it in Freemasonry and yeshivas. Why? Because it gives you power over yourself and others, and not learning it makes you powerless, manipulable.

bump

>>509836630
Oops, I timestamped the crocodile story, not the movie experiment, well that was one of the best parts too. Here's the movie experiment:

https://youtu.be/hq_tG5UJMs0&t=1239

For some reason people are very offended by the notion that they themselves are NPCs, that their own thoughts are programmed.

a) This shows that they are NPCs because nothing is more NPC than being unable to detach from ego and emotion and have a disinterested discussion of a topic.

b) If you are an NPC, wouldn't the first step to rising out that state be to realize you're in it? If nobody ever realizes or admits that they are an NPC then they'll never begin rising out of it, begin working on rising out of it. They'll just stay stuck, and fight to protect the walls of their prison, just to protect their pride. Sounds like a perfect plan for enslavement, and perhaps this response too is programmed.

>>509829503 (OP)
Been dealing with this fact since I was 13.

>>509829503 (OP)
Probably as far back as elementary school
Then dealing with the public working in retail during high school/college
But to see mass amounts of people being retarded in action, I guess I’ll say 2008 during the Obama psyop
Covid/BLM was a different level of redpill and made me realize about 70% of people are soulless automatons

>>509829503 (OP)
After the OJ trial. The cheering, crying evil blacks was too much and I became disillusioned. I really tried to keep it going prior to that, but OJ's trial made the truth too clear.

>>509829503 (OP)
When Trump supporters immediately flipped from "release the Epstein files" to "The files don't even exist in the first place and they don't matter" All because their daddy told them to

>>509829503 (OP)
when i was 5, roughly 40 years ago

>>509839642
also this was a huge redpill

>>509829503 (OP)
When I was 2 and my parents sent me to elementary school.

>>509830142
fellow Jordanian poster

>>509836630
I'm saying that that sounds way too familiar to the whole dunning kruger argument used by midwits where they think that simply being aware of the D-K effect, makes them smarter than the average person. I am an extremely logical person, I'm a problem solver, an engineer, a mediator and a self-taught business owner. The idea that I don't know 'logic' because I haven't studied it is a joke because it also implies that if I did, suddenly I would become more logical? That's not possible, people who know me would agree.

I just hate these arguments of 'only true free thinkers know how little free thinking they actually have' because a huge % of the audience were never free thinkers to begin with. Again, I've spent enough time here and on other forums over decades to know so many 'smart' people online are all the same
>I was really smart in school, but I just never tried, I'm lazy so I didn't do well.

And they're here, and they are the ones posting pseudo intellectual bullshit. But hey, maybe your posts aren't that, and there is a lot of merit to them. But I've seen similar stuff for decades and its all so tiring.

I can easily admit that I am driven by emotions from time to time. It's obvious when my hatred of something surpasses a rational response, and I don't give a shit about it. But at no time would I EVER think that there is no difference between me, and the hordes of clueless idiots in this world who say 'no one is truly a free thinker, we are all the same!'

No. This isn't binary, it's a spectrum. And I know for a fact I am far, far more logical than almost everyone I have ever met and I will not tolerate them telling me that I am not 'logical' because to believe so, is illogical.

>>509839745
>just came to the realization yesterday
Retard

I don't know a whole lot about conditioning but there seems to me to be two main types of conditioning. One is associating objects/concepts/words/phrases/etc in the mind with emotions, mostly just good/bad. The other type of conditioning has to do with propositions. Something X is something Y. Every time you hear X you instantly think Y. Every time you hear "saturated fat" you think "unhealthy" for example. The conditioned mind doesn't go further than propositions like for example:

>Saturated fat is unhealthy.

See the pic. You need to actually study how to parse texts. Jews know this, that's why they're powerful. You study grammar, logic and rhetoric, then you can take propositions which just pop into your mind and work on them, do you have any argument why saturated fat is unhealthy, anything to back it up, etc.

https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/huxleya-bravenewworld/huxleya-bravenewworld-00-e.html#chapter02

>Roses and electric shocks, the khaki of Deltas and a whiff of asafoetida--wedded indissolubly before the child can speak. But wordless conditioning is crude and wholesale; cannot bring home the finer distinctions, cannot inculcate the more complex courses of behaviour. For that there must be words, but words without reason. In brief, hypnopædia.
>'The greatest moralizing and socializing force of all time.'

it took time and lived experience, unfortunately.

>>509829503 (OP)
In primary school around the age of 7, I started realising there's something off with the majority of people, not to mention my peers in the school (public school). I went through the education system till Msc but my opinion never changed.

>>509829503 (OP)
When people know more about movies and shit and actively shy away from world events.

Namely when people started idolizing superheroes as role models.
Because real role models go against the grain and make people nervous because it exposes their mediocrity in being faux members of a society who are more comfortable being consooomers.

>>509840585
Your idea is very colored by the notion you hold that logic is intrinsic. That's the first part you need to start questioning. Just take any of the links I posted and study it, put your ego away, it's like you want to remain ignorant because if you were to find out that it's not intrinsic then that would strike at your pride, you want to be able to say that you studied no logic. Like wow you can bench press 100kg and you didn't even exercise once in your life? This is a worthless mentality to have. So no the dunning kruger thing is a bad analogy. Why are you so offended by the notion that perhaps for all of us a large percentage of our thoughts are conditioned responses to stimuli? I think studying logic is one thing that will cure this mentality. Meditation helps too. You are not your thoughts. That's a fundamental realization to make to start this journey toward improving your mind. I noticed in myself that both studying logic and meditation helped with this.

>>509829503 (OP)
TDS revealed rather a lot, especially about the types who rely on pretense.

>>509842409
I thought this was about the fucking rapper

>>509829503 (OP)
When the bank bailouts happened and occupy wallstreet got ´divide-and-conquer´ed