China is reviving the EKRANOPLAN. Taiwan is done for.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/china-bohai-sea-monster-ekranoplan-wig-craft-flying-ship-soviet-inspired-13904941.html

what the heck

>>510034477 (OP)
There's a reason the ruskis and NATO stopped producing these...

>>510034477 (OP)
soul vs soulless

>>510034477 (OP)
Why not just make single use submarine landers that zoom from china and then crawl up a beach while paratroopers drop in to secure beachheads

Plane and ship autists keep winning

>>510034477 (OP)
wave:
> blocks your path
Heh... nothin personnel.

>>510034696
They're probably also doing that as well. China is currently building a ton of different systems and seeing what works better.

>An ekranoplan, also known as a ground-effect vehicle (GEV), is a unique type of transport that combines features of both aircraft and ships. It flies just above the surface of the water, using a phenomenon called "ground effect" to generate lift and stay airborne.
NATO used to call it the Caspian Sea Monster.

>>510034477 (OP)
we need stealth ground Ekranplane.

that is photoshopped

>>510034477 (OP)
>taiwan strait
>one of the roughest bits of sea on the planet
>so bad so that ships struggle with it
>china regularly loses submarines in it
>EKRANOPLAN
>can't do waves at all
Oh yeah this will end spectacularly.

>>510035265
Well, I don't know if they'll be using those in the Taiwan strait. I just added that because it was funny.

>>510034597
They do look fucking awesome, though.

>>510034597
Rule of cool beats all other reasons.
FULL GAS AHEAD CHANGS!!!!

>>510034477 (OP)
B-b-b-b-aaaased.

>>510035876
how many mudslimes are on your street right now

>>510034597
The challenges could have been resolved but Brezhnev abandoned the project.

>>510035987
Why bully? I just like ekranoplans.

>>510035123
Makes me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDIDoMDQ6nY

>>510034597
Because they were fags.

>>510037187
Now this is what I call wunderwaffen.

>>510037187
Cool in concept, but man this thing would be a missile magnet.

>>510035063
>gets cucked by any sort of rough sea and any obstacle thats 10 miles infront of it

>>510034477 (OP)
looks like some warhammer 40k shit

>>510039141
Probably why they never developed it lol.

>>510037187
This shit is like a carrier except more expensive and probably much less reliable. If one missile touches it probably blows up instantly

>>510039715
You're the third person ITT (and second Frenchie) to say that.

>>510034597
somewhere I read that the US is planning to build one/some to supply stuff across the pacific.

>>510035063
Only thing this is for is getting in below the radar. But does that still work? I don't know the capabilities of modern radar systems.

>>510037187
That's some gay AI shit.

>>510034477 (OP)
Have to admit, looks like a kino absolute unit of a plane. CHAD.

>>510034477 (OP)
One missile and it's kaput

>>510040650
It's just shitty CG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJ-nDz7B1U

>>510039715
it looks nothing like a carrier, are you stupid?

>>510040511

well, maybe Trump axed it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Lifter

>>510040719
>One missile and it's kaput
True! But that's when the ekranoplan's "magic" starts working:
TWO missiles and it's normal again.

Of course China is evil and for a variety of reasons. I will list a few:

1. They have lifted 850 million Chinese out of poverty. That is very evil. Only the west should not be poor.

2. They are building infratsructure - roads, railways, seaports, airports, hospitals, stadia, etc around the globe so called debt traps. as others build death traps (military bases). That is evil, it is a debt trap. The world should wait for EUs GG and US' B3W.

3. They made advances in science and technology like in space, telecom, trains, medicine, agriculture, etc. That is evil. They stole everything from the west. Chinese have stolen from the west even what the west does not have e.g. 5G, 600kph HSR, etc. Such advances are a preserve for the west.

4. They have grown their economy to the 2nd in the world and are firmly on the way to becoming the the first. That is evil. First postion is a preserve for the hegemony. How could they overtake those who humiliated them for 100 years, killed hundreds of millions with opium, made them sign devilish treaties?

5. They have refused to play 2nd fiddle to the hegemony. That evil needs no explanation.

6. They have not gone to war in very many years despite all manner of provocation. How can they be so obstinate? They must yield to provocation of war so that the hegemony and puppets have an excuse to sanction and bomb China.

7. They have strengthened their military and are not easily intimidable. That is evil, not to feel intimidated by the 400 military bases, a good number encircling them.

8. They have contained the terrorists in Xinjiang a lot better than the hegemony et al did across the border in Afghanistan and scampered out after 20 years. How could they outperform puppetmaster + puppets? No. No. There must be gross human rights abuses.

>>510035063
what a dumb piece of shit machinery. Shoot a torpedo in its general direction or have mines in the water, or simple flack cannons mounted ground level and this thing is fucked. Gunboats could cuck it.

>china going full zeon aesthetic

>>510041291
2 sea drones prolly
1 to do the deed and 1 to film it

>>510040592
It also avoids SONAR.

>>510041291
They will be excellent for recon and surveillance.

>>510034477 (OP)
The legacy of the Soviet Union is eternal, and the Chinese are the rightful heirs of the mighty red banner

>>510041761
not in 21st century warfare

>>510039141
>>510039715
the bigger problem is probably how much fucking fuel this beast would burn to run. normal boats already chug diesel and marine fuel at like 20-30kts and murica has nuclear powered shit. imagine running those turbines.

>>510041868
yeah commies are going to lose like the soviets

>>510034477 (OP)
Liberty Lifter (what a gay fucking name that they probably spent $400 million on) is cancelled within the last few days. At least it is becoming like the Cold War days where it is interesting to see what is experimented with/tested.

>>510041885
The USA is also making some.
https://www.twz.com/cargo-hauling-ekranoplan-x-plane-is-being-developed-by-darpa

>>510041915
We have nuclear powered ships because they are efficient, what do you think nuclear power is?

>>510041915
GEVs are more fuel-efficient than aircrafts because of the ground effect.

>>510039163
correct
thats why soviets shut down the program after one prototype

still looks pretty cool

>>510041970
>cancelled
Wtf? Why?

>>510040719
just like all ships
>>510039715
>xcept more expensive a
no,

pros - it's very cheap and fast.
unmanned, fast, cheap.

>>510035265
This is very ignorant cope lol

stopping a light bigrade from landing is impossible, we dont care about how many of these they have. stopping china from landing is impossible, we arent even going to try. the only thing that will actually matter is how many divisions they can get ashore and for that they are going to need very large ships not planes or helicopters or fishing trawlers. our strategy is to let them land and run them out of supplies by attacking logistics, so let them build these all they like it wont matter at all.

>>510042379
no not like all ships retard

>>510034477 (OP)
saw an engineer on youtube saying it's probably not an ekranoplan but just a big cargo plane capable of water landing/takeoff.
they already have a big cargo plane capable of water landing/takeoff but it uses turboprops, could just be a variation

>>510034477 (OP)
All the negatives of limited cargo capacity space of a plane combined with all the negatives of running a ship. Genius.

Quackers

>>510040961
He said 'is', not 'look', retard. How do you call a large vehicle that carries and launches aircraft?

>>510034477 (OP)
Interesting positioning of the engines there by the Russians.

>>510042846

We need a duck. Okay.

>>510041970
They really did cancel it. Fuck DARPA.
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/darpa-cancels-liberty-lifter-heavy-ground-effect-vehicle-program
>>510042672
>engineer on youtube
Lol

>>510034477 (OP)
holy shit the top one is cool as balls, 3rd gen armored core timeline, here we go

>>510042925
just retards who think carriers are outdated

>>510043088
The top one was the original ekranoplan, made by the Soviets.

>>510034597
>There's a reason the ruskis and NATO stopped producing these...
what's the reason niggers

>>510035063
there are some DCS simulations of these. They're interesting, but their vulnerabilities are hard to overcome.
Maybe China is just looking at fast troop transport to Taiwan?

>>510043375
I've seen ekranoplans before, but never that one, weird
disappointing the bottom one's the new one

>>510034477 (OP)
>>510034597
Egypt literary just built a floating bridge when crossing the Suez Canal to take back the Sinai.
China needs to do that.

>>510043877
kino

Civilian GEVs.

>>510034477 (OP)
lets goo

>>510044854

>>510044854
I've had dreams of these things man, docking and stuff in an alternate universe (I guess) where the US and USSR were still friends after WWII. They look awesome. Seeing one at night would be creepy to me, in a good way, eerie.

>>510043044
Yeah man, she's dead. There was also the Boeing Pelican ~20-25 years ago they were kicking around. This one seems even more extreme kek:
>3,000 pax
>2,800,000 lbs cargo capacity
>8x LM6000-GE90 combo engines
>19 landing gears

>>510034477 (OP)
>>510034477 (OP)
>>510034477 (OP)
ONE SINGLE DRONE
AND THE ENTIRE PLANE
IS FUCKED

SILLY
CHINKCELS

DAILY REMINDER. CHINKCELS HAVEN'T WON A SINGLE WAR IN THEIR HISTORY SINCE THE CIVIL WAR WHICH WAS RIGGED. WE ORDERED THE NATIONALISTS TO STAND DOWN & LET THE COMMIES RE-ARM & LAUNCH NEW OFFENSIVES.

TAIWAN
IS A BAD IDEA
AMPHIBIOUS LANDINGS ARE VERY DIFFICULT. VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE IF THE ENEMY KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM & WHERE YOU'RE LANDING.

THE LAST TIME THE CHINKS TRIED TO FIGHT REALLY
WAS IN VIETNAM
AND THEY GOT FUCKING MASSACRED.

>>510034477 (OP)
fake as fuck. The ekranoplan had its engines mounted in front of the wings for a reason, as it directed thrust down and under them to add lift. It was a true ground effect vehicle. The plane you posted is not a ground effect vehicle.

>>510045107
>>510045107
>>510045107
USSR & AMERICA
ARE MUTTED NATIONS

B L A C K E D

IF CHINA WAS INTELLIGENT
THEY WOULD HIT MANCHURIA NOW

SINCE RUSSIA CANNOT DEFEND IT WITH 90% OF THEIR MILITARY IN UKRAINE.

REMINDER
ALL THOSE CHINKCEL WEAPONS IN IRAN
DIDN'T WORK... THE AIR DEFENSES DID NOT WORK. XD

IRAN & RUSSIA HAVE BOTH FUCKED THEMSELVES

HOWEVER
CHINA IS STILL HOLDING SOME WILD CARDS.

>>510045861
also:

Lisa needs braces... Ekranoplan!

>>510045861
They already have a similar design on a smaller civilian GEV.
https://www.ecns.cn/visual/hd/2017/12-12/148891.shtml

CHINKCELS
WHY ARE YOU
SO QUIET ANONS???

STILL
I'LL TAKE NOTE OF ANY CHINK WEAPON DESIGNS

IF IT WASN'T A CORRUPT COMMUNIST NATION WITH BRIBES, THEN THE EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE USEFUL IF YOU MAKE IT PROPERLY

>>510046256
Mulato, got any updates on this?

>>510046412
>I have bullets to spare!

>>510046412
fat amerimutt

>>510034477 (OP)
"Soviet-inspired" or yet another attempted theft from an American company? Thankfully it appears as if this dude is somewhat based kek

https://x.com/DavidZagaynov/status/1939709698808447006

>>510034477 (OP)
They actually suck in rough water, but it can't be denied that they do look sexy.

>>510034477 (OP)
Don't be ridiculous. China isn't going to do jack shit to Taiwan. Like other armed countries in the area China likes to huff and puff at, I can guarantee you everyone of them has a few missiles aimed right at the Yanze River Dam. Your post is puredee bullshit.

LOL nice video game and AI footage--fucking tard.

>>510049851
shut the fuck up mutt

>>510049851
You know nothing

>>510034477 (OP)
China so strong..RAWR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV47Kacjs94

Fucking white monkey posting.

>>510034477 (OP)
looks pretty cool

>>510049603
The US just cancelled its Liberty Lifter. And china had similar designs (with piston engines) in 2017 >>510046244.
This is the guy who made that provisional sketch in that tweet. He says those are probably not jet engines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxIHVP3pS4I

>>510049916
>>510050018
OH MY SHAKALADA

LOL WUMAO. I don't think China can risk any more "flooding".

Imagine being stupid enough to risk it all, especially with all that study Tofu Dregs construction. Imagine building a dam on an earthquake fault and being forced to release water downstream destroying villages--just to keep that fucker from falling down and destroying more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1TCqavYOiQ

Good luck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg3z8tJd9nE

>>510034597
Because they're dangerous?

>>510050185
Gosh I sure hope China's plane designs are better than their AI, or--their Robots (affectionately called Roberts)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FryXJiz2ssc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wSIPFfYsFI

IT"S OVER CHINA JUST DESTROYED US IN ROBOT RACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KQTUq3CVQU

OOPS turns out putting fake drainage systems in leads to unfortunate circumstances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPXmgx5Qnic

Chinese people are so happy (at not being paid for months) that they're blowing up the factories...this is just ONE day of many many explosive days in China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC5AMlIRltU

Oh, there are no homeless in China, or so say the White Monkeys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmKLCEapJQ

Do you want me to carry on? China is fucking fake and gay.

ABANDON THREAD

>>510050963
The fags are usually correct about chinkland but for the wrong reasons. If your models don't account for race they will never be predictive. Also I have no idea how a faggot can watch the decline of SA and still be anti-racist. It would be one thing to keep your mouth shut about it for financial reasons but to signal against racism when you saw that shit first hand baffles me.

>>510034477 (OP)
>china is bring sovl back

>>510050173
The USA should have continued with the plan. I want to see huge ekranoplans again.

>>510034892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94jABJjpDrc

sea state 2 maybe..

>>510051533
>gittin' on my islands
That's a paddling.
>having slanty eyes near my beach
That's a paddling.
>unironically bein' fag
You best believe that's a paddlin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i15LH5MFcKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GfaCW-Ylds

>>510034477 (OP)
It's kind of awesome how the Chinese and Russians are like real fucking 40K Orks.

>>510041291
This, plus what happens when it hits a fucking 40-foot wave? Can it pull up and like hop over big waves? It would get fucking rekt if not.

>>510041970
Liberty Lifter is what I call any woman that can get my oversized, tired, massive swinging dick to become erect.

>>510034477 (OP)
https://youtu.be/HUmtUUYsF7A

>>510034477 (OP)
Stupid. Planes and helicopters go in the air. Boats and submarines go in the water. Very simple stuff. Would you make a flying boat? No, you wouldn't.

>>510043713
Extremely expensive. But the national pride/mog is worth it imo. Kind of like with aircraft carriers.

>>510052728
...

>>510035265
The Caspian sea monster cruiser at 20 meters and could go higher in rough seas. You are a retard.

>>510034597
What ekranoplans NATO produced?

>>510052728
>Would you make a flying boat? No, you wou-ACK

>>510052723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeGTV6fvgaM

>>510049496
>>510049496
>>510049496
I DO 5-10 MILES A DAY
YOUR NATION HAS THE WORST BIRTHRATES OF ANY COUNTRY ON EARTH

CHINKCEL LARPER

EVEN CHINA
ISN'T SAFE
FROM NIGGERS XD

>>510034477 (OP)
now THATS how to invade taiwan also it needs active protection systems to blow up direct impact missiles fired at it and china is in business. I say have a drone hover above it and detonate as the projectile approaches.

>>510034696
These would be resistant to mining the waters between China and Taiwan, which is projected to be a primary US strategy. You also can’t torpedo them.

The US is projected to heavily leverage mines and submarine attacks on surface ships to mitigate a naval invasion.

Tbh China just has to spam rockets. It can outproduce everyone. Why get fancy?

>>510037187
Genuinely the most retarded thing I have seen. Absurdly complex. A SSGN Ohio-class can cause more damage for less money than this thing could ever dream of, be smaller, be cheaper (including the cost of attack), and deliver 150 guided missiles into the heart of wherever the fuck you want and disappear immediately

>>510054040
i dont think they want to militarily conquer taiwan desu
it would ruin their anime story arc of peaceful reunification

>>510034477 (OP)
neat

>>510043877
How does it do in storms? Or like 15 foot swells?

>>510040592
>>510041291
The only real advantage the thing has is that its fuel efficient for its size and weight. No idea if that's a real benefit to a military.

>>510034597
Well if all china wants from them is a quick way to invade taiwanese shores it could work. They got dropped during the cold war because they are very restricted in the kinds of waters and conditions they can operate in, but for a single operation purpose they work a hell of a lot better than civilian ferries and shit

>>510055318
>Service ceiling: 8,000–10,000 m (26,000–33,000 ft)

>>510034597
the reason was they were DIRT POOR and STUPID
china is FILTHY RICH and SMART

>>510035063
that's a garbage idea, really

>>510034597
Lack of balls

>>510040592
Don't think about it as a plane, it's a ship. Reason you want to float is that it counteracts cavitation to reach faster max speeds.

>>510055525
it's a flying boat, not an ekranoplan

>>510041761
that's nice, but one of the key issues of ekranoplans was that they need recon and surveillance to navigate normally

>>510034477 (OP)
Rrrreeeeeeeee!!!! If their making this I want airships back! It’s not fair the United States had an armored one to test out but it came to late in WWII, as the damn sneaky japs surrendered.

why are people suddenly glazing chinks ITT.
>MUH HECKIN COOL FLYING BOAT!!!!
It will fall apart. Kys chink shills. Die.

>>510034477 (OP)
Neat

>>510056925
>I hate fun

>>510056860
it might fly in kansas but imagine replacing all those turbine blades all the time

>>510034477 (OP)
Konami really going all in with the MGS Delta tie-ins

>>510056560
>liberty lifter
>Specifications for the craft included the ability to fly less than 100 feet (30 m) from sea level to harness ground effect, and the ability to climb as high as 10,000 feet (3,000 m) above mean sea level
ekranoplans are literally flying boats by definition

>>510034477 (OP)
/r/ing names for these abominations

I vote supergooker 9001.

>>510057026
source

>>510055338
Im an engineer and Im building one due to the fact that theyre fast as hell and I want to explore the caribbean but I dont have time to spend months at sea. the old leer jets from the 70s arent legal to fly without more $$$ in upgrades than the plane would be worth so theyre cheaper than dirt. My plan is to build tandem style ekranoplan wings with pontoons on each side and mount the fuselage in between.

>>510043713
Can't move over choppy seas. Completely fucking useless.

>>510057262
ok fine if you want to be autistic about it
serbia is landcucked however so dont pretend the russian bathtub called the black sea is even the ocean lmao

>>510046412
Nice AI slop.

>>510057529
>gets btfo
>hurr durr
ok retard

>>510034477 (OP)
SOON

>>510034597
50% of the battle is reddit, and it look cool

>>510057571
no boat cope

>>510054420
this thing can go inland though

>>510043713
>bitch to maintain (salt water + turbines)
>turns like complete ass (inherent to the whole design, hard to fix)
>needs good conditions to work
>requires a fuck ton of skills to pilot
>basically needs recon to give it clear
>open ocean basically a no-go

>>510057721
should have put a couple of wheels on then

>>510057692
no flag kike

>>510057329
Sounds like a fun project anon. Just watch out for the bigger waves.

>>510034477 (OP)
Ekranoplans kick ass. But the question remains: Why?

No one, and I mean no one, has ever figured out a good use for these things. MAYBE beach storming operations. AA missiles wouldn't work on them because they're flying 30 feet above the water. Anti Ship missiles might not work because they're travelling hundreds of miles an hour. But is it a one way trip? Or do they push up to a beach, unload, back out, turn around, and fly away?

>>510057329
I always thought it would be cool to have one if I lived on the coast.

>>510057834
enjoy your gross shit eating river carp when you fast haha

>>510057893
>>510058076
I have 2 concepts, one is a ground effect vehicle and the other is a catamaran hydrofoil. idk which would be better

>>510057964
Oddly enough automation might make them useful. The issue has always been one of vulnerability, they are big and thus though fast they are hard to hide. If you had a rocket powered one carrying a fuckton of smaller drones which didn't have endurance to reach where ever you wanted to deploy them but for some reason dropping them from a cargo plane just wasn't an option this could work. And if it gets blown up, fuck it expendable asset. Still outside of some mass assault I can't see the utility, so likely to forever remain a curiosity.

>>510058516
Computers definitely will help making them more stable and easy to pilot which is what im working on. my plan is to use AI in the program so the more I fly it the better the program gets at keeping it stable

>>510057964
There really doesn't seem to be a reason since boats and planes exist.

>>510034477 (OP)
That clunky fucker is going to make the best fpv drone video yet

>>510059319
Oh wait, what if the thing IS a drone? Maybe that's finally a use, to kamikaze into zog carriers.

>>510034477 (OP)
They need them to counter what the US wants to do by putting a company of Marines on small islands.

A intersting anti shipping missile platform too.

>>510059610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZHz31Pt0k

>>510042366
Marshal Trump has determined they are for losers.

>>510059438
>Drone mothership skating on the water towards Tawaiin
>shielded by dozens of autonomous drone swarms
>runs aground and deploys hundreds of engineer bots to secure beachhead
>first chink meatwave deploys thereafter

Kino.

>>510034477 (OP)
Ukraine was done for too.
Do you know how hard it is to invade an island where almost the entire perimeter is cliffside?
A lot harder than it was to invade the grassland that is Ukraine, that's for sure.

I believe the battle will be far from an EZ win.

>>510060232
DARPA seemed to have trouble making them cheap enough to be viable.

>>510052723
KEK typical CCP video FAIL :D

>>510060840
Also this entire plan is retarded the US has 50 SSNs which are superior to China's best 3, out of 6 total could be considered vaguely modern. Since diesels are essentially useless outside of coast defense and ambush this entire endeavor is doomed to fail. They are in fact the numerically inferior force in terms of actual useful assets. I can't help but think this entire thing is for posturing, and the various systems and platforms they are developing have utility outside of a hypothetical "Operation Fuck Formosa". These can be used to bolster coastal defense and area denial which is what the PLAN is set up for.

>>510051533
i agree. abandoning something like that, even if its not worth it long term, is even less worth it than having it.

>>510062198
*than not having it

>>510054834
The US and Chinese militaries have been gearing up for exactly a military takeover of Taiwan for decades

>>510034477 (OP)
Money well spend

>>510058208
Enjoy your gefiltefish or whatever the fuck it’s called, I’m pretty sure that’s all they serve in Hell (where you’re going unless you give up your Jewry and accept Christ)

>>510052926
I see your flying boat and I raise you an armed flying apartment.

>>510035063
What the fuck

>>510034552
What the helly.

>>510058516
They avoid mines, they have large lifting capacities, they’re very fast, and building basically big planes is a fuck of a lot cheaper and faster than building boats

In a theater like the Pacific against a numerically superior enemy where logistics are one of your largest vulnerabilities—cheap, fast, high capacity cargo movers are a strategic goldmine

>>510035990
That's because it would've cost three times the soviet military budget to do so. Also, as has already been stated, the ekranoplane's biggest weakness is it's inability to handle rough seas. Faggot.

>>510063845
They suck far more fuel than a regular boat for far less range, sink in waves over 5 feet tall, need a fuckton of maintenance, take much more training to operate and have far far less armor. They were a pipe dream and China is dumb for trying to make them work.

>>510061950
You’re a moron

Their entire strategy is coastal defense and area denial. If you ambush a carrier or carrier group, between diesel electric subs and hypersonics, you will cripple America’s ability and willingness to project power in the region. Without carriers, you’re talking about long distance bomber support. If you cannot supply Taiwan with weapons, if you cannot provide air superiority, you’re fucked

>>510034597
You are so dumb. Western countries and even Russia still explore this concept in the design stage... meanwhile China actually build prototypes. If you cant see the implications then you're hopeless. (Hint hint, the same thing applies to space for China too).

>>510042366
America is BROKE.

>>510064257
They don't work. Russia built a few to specifically prototype them and came to the conclusion that they won't do anything a fast attack boat loaded up with missiles can't.

China will come to the same conclusion and cancel the program just like the soviets did.

Look at this thing.

That's in two weeks

these things look scary to me

>>510043877
Based Bartini appreciator

>>510035063
It was mostly a research prototype to investigate ground effect lift vehicles. It is an interesting topic with no immediately obvious tactical utility.

>>510034597
Yes, they don't work in open seas through rough seas.

>>510043728
In all likelihood the one built by China is just a test craft exploring the concept of the ground effect.
This kind of thing is basically a stepping-stone to developing hovercraft (which use the same principle).
Hovercraft are basically the bread and butter for amphibious assault vehicles, but the fact that China had to go all the way back to the stage we were at in like 1920 to try and to work their way back up to a workable amphibious assault craft just speaks to how far behind they are when they can't just copy someone else's homework.

>>510064402
you were literally making one until a week ago

>>510064402
The one China (so far) looks too be small, so it might be used for SF. We dont really know much about it for now.

>>510042296
That's not true though, they continued on with the program and made several smaller ekranoplans, including some that carried cruise missiles.

>>510065093
see >>510065130
darpa literally cancelled their liberty lifter program years into it last week
why is everyone so desperate to denounce this as some surpassed technology just because china is doing it?

>>510037187
Why looks different

>>510065242
That A-90 can climb to 9800 feet does that even count?

>>510065093
Dude what? Boeing was trying to build one in the 2000s.
DARPA just cancelled one of their projects.
And civilian ekranoplans have been in use for a while in a lot of countries.
>>510065479
Does it not? It looks like one.
>>510065477
That's CG, brother.

>>510037187
where are the mobile suits stored?

Cool, we need more wacky wunderwaffen that just look badass, even though they're completely useless in real life.
Chinks still have that childlike mentality of going with cool looking stuff over actual function and it's great.

>>510065919
Well it solves the high wave/rough sea problem. Just a semantics question, if its basically a full blown airplane that flies in ground effect to increase efficiency, does it still count as a WIG plane? It is cool that it can cruise with that type of payload on a single turboprop though.

>>510034477 (OP)
Thats obviously just a normal sea plane.

>>510066254
why not ask if it's even a plane if it can't clear a decent mountain if you're going that route? is a jeep not an off road vehicle because it can go on the road? how is it not a WIG plane if it is designed to use the effect? would liberty lift's 3000 feet ceiling make it a plane?

>>510065314
Because Americans are petty little kikes. Everything about them is fake and China is leaping forward while they are trying to become rich from TikTok.
The worst thing is that most of them psyoped into believing the shit they say. China has its own space station, their electric cars apparently have some untold suspension that eats up all the bumps and so on (they produce everything) yet somehow Mutts who have no industry and can't walk outside at night because they'll get killed either by a nigger or a pig, think they are (((leaders of the free world))) LMAO

>>510065919
>That's CG, brother.
Thank you sister I see you have a female brain
The question is why is one winged and the CGI one isn't.
Is it a different model

>>510034477 (OP)
wha what? i thought these things were kill in the cold war? why did they scrap them anyway? 海怪? sea monster? are they testing that for the military? as mobile as a plane, yet stuck to the surface of the sea. can probably avoid the new anti-ship missiles AND submarine kamikaze drones/speedboats from that fucking millenium challenge wargame decades ago. very interesting.

>>510066919
That's not from China. That's just random old CGI of a concept of a plan from this video >>510040863. I just thought it looked interesting.

>>510035063
whats the fucking point of that?

>>510034552
Your on 4chan you can say fuck anyway don't click that link my nigger

>>510034477 (OP)
Doesn't even look that impressive. The fuselage looks like slightly redesigned SH-5 with some shit thrown on top. Hopefully it goes as well for them as it did the USSR and their admiralty dies in a horrific crash on the maiden voyage.

>>510067094
Less drag than planes, faster than boats. These theoretically have their uses, but they only work on level surfaces and don't like rough weather.
The most appealing thing with ekranoplans is that you can make absolutely massive ones while still maintaining good fuel efficiency and speed when compared to both aircraft and boats.

>>510034552
It's a sick airplane that uses ground effect to boost it's payload capacity to crazy levels. The Russians made a few as a meme to deter nato from being nato, the idea being that an ekranoplane could carry and outrun naval payloads like missiles and torpedos while moving orders of magnitude faster than a ship.
>>510034597
Yea the issue was that pilots got tried real fast because cruising at 30 feet altitude is stressful and one little fuckup is a big deal because you cartwheel or shred the aircraft if a rouge wave licks your wing too hard. Nowadays we have computers which are perfect for controlling for this sort of computation that takes lots of nearly superhuman focus and patience from a human. Naturally China with all their drone tech is gonna do this. And even if I am skeptical china writes or even understands the principles of controls engineering that allow computers to do these amazing tasks, the hardware is good enough they don't need to understand shit. As is publicly available software

Heaven knows the west never will, it would only cost some swimming lessons for test pilot niggers and hiring a few white engineers like myself. But nooo... it is more natural for chinamen to scoop up this low hanging fruit of innovation.

>t. Aerospace engineer

>why didn't you make one anon?
I'm autistic, have only the capital of an individual and you niggers hate me. Even if I had a bunch of friends/coworkers who could help me build one I would stab the VC bros to death and close up shop as soon as I was asked to comply with cmmc regs.

The USA is being set up to lose a war with china and unless they start paying men in literal nubile brides and Canadian homesteads nothing will change.

>>510039384
Kinda is,

It's a sort of spoiler weapon, odd and maybe not efficient, but strap 1 ASM to it and it changes a million calculations for western navies. Because now there is a destroyer level payload with an aircraft's range, traveling at 250 knots.

>>510037187
To be viable, this thing wouldn't even need to carry more than 3-4 aircraft and wouldn't even need to have landing capabilities. The idea that one odd flight of aircraft could come from an unexpected angle at an unexpected time is enough of a deterrent to make any modern navy double check where they send their multi billion dollar naval investments.

Is china going to use them properly? 99% chance no. But that 1% chance is enough to scare the niggers and jews and women running the west.

That's the entire point.

>>510067094
it's cool

>>510065314
Because it would be fun, create a few jobs and maybe inspire a few autists to join the military.

Can't have that.

>>510057731
I think the biggest issue would be slowing down desu.

>>510041237
attention all hunters, a gate has opened at seoul station, S-class calamities detected!

>>510049496
ching chong bing bong
where's my temu order manchu? I already paid the tariff!

>>510034477 (OP)
Oh shit. OH SHIT.

>>510034597
It needed more development, it was competing with mature technologies at the time and the Soviet Union couldn't afford to put in the industry. I believe the chinks can make them work.