Tell me again about the slippery slope.

>>510147396 (OP)
With the way things are going he'll be able to come out as a pedophile soon

>>510147396 (OP)
As usual, it’s the parents that are also to blame for never teaching any values and for confirming things that aren’t okay. I tell you what, if you don’t read the Bible to your kids or take them to church at a young age and fill them with wisdom - this is what you’re gambling on. And I don’t mean go zealously religious either. You need to be a real one to avoid what they want to do to our kids.

oyyyyyy doctos

>>510147396 (OP)
>now
Otherkin openly existing on the internet is older than you are.

>>510147396 (OP)
therian is just a fancy term for children playing make believe, it has nothing to do with trans people.

>>510147790
Except it’s not, they treat it like an identity. If you spiral out at this age it’s likely you won’t develop into a healthy adult. Their brain is already destroyed and their values already non-existent. They do not even have a semi-plausible worldview. This all leads to drugs and suicide.

>>510147396 (OP)
>slippery slope.

>>510147396 (OP)
Don't give your children access to the internet like that. Idk how to do it with my son yet since he's a baby, I know super firewalls will just make him go on tor because I won't teach goo to be a retard, but jeez dude

>>510147616
AAAAAAAAA *inhales* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *inhales* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>510147396 (OP)
>Kids
This nigger is like 40 and still lives with his parents.

>>510147790
>playing make-believe has nothing to do with trans people

>>510147790
eventually, this level of faggotry will be outlawed

>>510147896
yea no, this therian stuff is simply a dumb phase, thats why everyone that labels themselves as one is no older than 15.

>>510148037
a human cannot be a dog/wolf in any way shape or form, a human can however be feminine/ female passing as a male and masculine/male passing as a female.

>>510147784
>kids have ALWAYS been trans-anim-ACK!

>>510147790
>furries don't exist

>>510147947
You have posted this twelve times. It's time to get a new obsession.

It's understandable to look at rapid social changes and feel concern about where things are headed. This image channels that worry by framing transgender inclusion as a coordinated, aggressive takeover – a list of demands threatening kids, free speech, women's spaces, and even the words 'mother' and father.' It suggests a hidden 'agenda' forcing acceptance and using cancellation as a weapon.

However, stepping back, many points here are exaggerated or misrepresent reality. Most transgender individuals simply seek safety and dignity – using the restroom without harassment, accessing necessary healthcare (which for minors is cautious and therapeutic, not rushed surgery), or being called their chosen name. Inclusive terms like "birthing people" are used in specific policy contexts (like healthcare) to accurately include trans men who can get pregnant; they aren't banning "mother." The idea of teachers secretly transitioning kids or taking them from parents reflects rare, distorted cases, not mainstream goals. While debates on sports, prisons, or drag events are complex, framing basic requests for respect as an authoritarian plot overlooks the genuine vulnerability of trans people and distracts from finding practical solutions that protect everyone's safety and conscience without fueling division. Perhaps the real question isn't about an imagined agenda, but how we navigate genuine differences while protecting kids and treating fellow citizens with basic respect, even when we deeply disagree.

>>510148325
furries roleplay as animals for fun, therians are children that genuinely think they were born in the wrong body/ wrong species and that they were meant to be an animal or were one in a past life.

>>510147896
>>510148037
"As sexual differentiation of the brain takes place at a much later stage in development than sexual differentiation of the genitals, these two processes can be influenced independently of each other and can result in gender dysphoria."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128206836000312
An equivalent doesn't exist between separate species.

>>510148341
tldr

>>510148341
>social changes
The term you're looking for is antinatal subversion.

>>510147947
>>510148480
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/trannies%20fags%20evil.jpg/

>>510147396 (OP)
>/pol/ finds out what a therian is years after tiktok normies cringe at it
Either society is collapsing, or out of touch retards post on /pol/.

>>510148514
If that's what it was, why would they be working on ways to make sure transgender people can reproduce?
Examples of cutting edge research into this you may not have heard of:
http://archive.today/2022.10.21-114609/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/21/science/sperm-retrieval-essm-transgender-fertility.html
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9873819/ + https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666334123001083
https://theconversation.com/eggs-from-men-sperm-from-women-how-stem-cell-science-may-change-how-we-reproduce-219005

I’m coming out as a dude who fucks really hot chicks

>>510148529
>rent free

>>510148208
>>510148475
No shit trans-species is a bigger "ask" than trans-sexual, it's still all make-believe

>>510148722
What did you mean by this?

>>510147396 (OP)
remember when this definitely wasn't happening at schools?

>>510148677
So brave of you.

>>510148762
the difference is there is no objective reason why therians exist and they all grow out of it eventually, the same cannot be said about trans people, the reason they exist in the first place is because they suffer from an incurable state of gender dysphoria.
they arent comparable.

>>510148982
This. Gender as a concept is different then spiritual weirdness. It's like saying religious people are definitionally mentally ill. Is this reddit?

>>510147396 (OP)
If I identify as a poacher is it mass murder or illegal hunting?

>>510148055
Therian is literally just a younger version of a furry, which plenty of adults are, with the "I identify as" label attached to it. Zero reason to think this is a "phase", as furries don't grow out of it.

>>510149306
>>510148423

>>510148982
>there is no objective reason why therians exist
Lie. It's the same reason trannies do: lost young people being groomed into a sex cult.
>and they all grow out of it eventually,
Lie.
>the same cannot be said about trans people,
Lie.
>the reason they exist in the first place is because they suffer from an incurable state of gender dysphoria.
Lie. Therians feel "dysphoria" too.
>they arent comparable.
Lie.

0/5.

>>510149376
>Lie. It's the same reason trannies do: lost young people being groomed into a sex cult.
those "lost young people" end up detransitioners, actual trans people remain trans well into adulthood.
>Lie. Therians feel "dysphoria" too.
species dysphoria, not GENDER dysphoria.
i differentiated the two for a reason.

>>510147396 (OP)
>when your kid comes out as a furry
do you kill yourself or go uncle ted on society

>>510149488
>actual trans people
No such thing.
>remain trans well into adulthood.
All three years of it until they kill themselves.

You people are sick freaks and I'm glad the indulgence experiment is over.

>>510147396 (OP)
therian? man i hate those genies. the worst of the gen 5 legendaries

>>510149873
youre clearly too closeminded to even consider any of the points i made, let alone refute them properly, very typical.

>>510148320
>retard shartyfag too young to remember when everyone was terrified about therians in like 2011
I’m not surprised. /pol/ should be deleted immediately

I identify as trans-chad. in reality I am an ugly manlet, but in my mind I am 6'4", ripped, and have a cock like a pringles can. if women refuse to see the real me and don't want to fuck me they're being bigots.

>>510150019
>>510149988
In a non-sick world you would be in an asylum getting the actual help you desperately need.

>>510147396 (OP)
>coprophagisaurus

>>510150202
>cherry picking the worst post op photo he can find
lol, every time

>>510148529
nothing wrong with this.

>>510150298
You are a mentally ill freak.

>>510147396 (OP)
I hate trannies. But otherkin are more furry adjacent than tranny adjacent.

>>510147396 (OP)
otherkin isn't new, you retard, it's cringe from circa 2010

>>510147396 (OP)
Hope she locks up the guns

>>510150298
>I ripped my arm apart and glued it to my sewn-up vagina
>then I put a pump in it so I can inflate my """""erection""""" like a fucking bike tire
>then I cut my breasts off and sterilized myself with testosterone
>take THAT, chuds!
It is a crime against humanity that you're not in a padded cell. The world has failed you.

Is this some advanced form of petplay?

>ywn be a dinosaur

>>510148055
I’m in my mid 30s and I’ve identified as a cat for well over 10 years now. I dress like a cat in public every day. I live in a small town and I get posted on facebook sometimes lol one of my ex’s would leash me to a pole outside the store. He was a gay pup so he understood. I’m pan and trans. I fully expect to get flamed for this but I wanted you to know it’s not just a fad that teenagers do. This is as real as any other identity, for me anyway

>>510150830
>I miss my pack
I think this is the most interesting portion of that post. Lonely, aimless people drifting in an atomized society, just like the kids groomed into becoming trannies. That's all it comes down to.

>>510150989
not my problem

>>510150735
I agree that transgenderism doesn’t make sense and ideally, shouldnt exist, but the reality is that it does exist and as of right now, no other treatment is available for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria besides to medical transition.
Just cause something is not pretty to look at, doesn’t mean it doesnt have the right to exist, let consenting adults do what they want with their own bodies.

>>510150989
>I live out my homosexual bestiality fetish in public around children

Yes, yes, very nice. Step closer to the wall.

>>510151050
>let consenting adults do what they want with their own bodies
No.

>>510151050
The treatment for psychotic self-mutilation is not psychotic self-mutilation. We don't let people with body integrity disorder amputate their healthy limbs, nor grannies with dementia put glass into their face.

You belong in a padded room on a heavy dose of antipsychotics. Perhaps when the 41% becomes 51%, people will reach the same conclusion.

>>510151282
That’s your interpretation because you’re closed minded

>>510147396 (OP)
>kids are trans animals now
yah well im an apache attack helicopter

>>510151550
Not as closed-minded as this fine lady.

>>510151723
irl you’d just stare and seethe but would be too afraid to actually do anything and you know it, I’ve been doing this a long time, the vast majority of your types act big with each other but when alone are too pussy to put words into action

>>510151540
youre confused, this "psychotic self-mutliation" is something that occurs as an extension to firstly having gender dysphoria, so the real issue here is to treat the that, which as i mentioned, currently isnt possible.
people can try and phrase things different but every alternative to medically transitioning that people have come up with always boils down to just repressing/ignoring the feelings, which literally doesn’t work, at least not long term. its like telling a schizophrenic person to simply ignore their schizophrenia.
there a reason every detrans person's story consists of them admitting that they in fact were suffering from either a different mental illness (bipolar, body dysmorphia, etc), from some other external trauma, or were victims of social contagion which led them into falsely believing they were trans.
its never them "overcoming" gender dysphoria, they never had it in the first place, it is not something that can be dealt with in any other way besides to transition. sure, the suicide rates within those that transition are still high, but not as high as those that do not transition. is it not better to live until your 30's than your 20s?

>>510147396 (OP)
How are these parents so tolerant? My dad would have kicked the shit out of me.

>>510151050
>no other treatment is available for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria besides to medical transition.
Other than antipsychotics. And having a strong support group who reinforces that gentital mutilation will not help. That webm? Some hellraiser shit that absolutely should not exist and only does because it makes pharmakikes money. Absolutely abhorrent. An abuse not only of a mentally ill faggot, but also the hipocratic oath.

>>510151888
Why would people risk hate crime charges over someone who's gonna kill himself in a few years anyway? You guys don't even own guns because you know you'll use them on yourself.

>>510152008
antipsychotics wouldnt treat gender dysphoria

>>510151050
>no other treatment is available
lol are you fucking retarded? Therapy is what is needed dipshit. Not cutting off healthy body parts to compensate for an unhealthy mind

>>510151945
These “parents” grew up in the glownigger experiment known as Tumblr. It’s why they allow this.

>>510152041
>don’t own guns
I shoot competitively lol and yes, with my cat stuff on. You have no idea what you’re talking about :3 there’s a big world out there and you’re not experiencing it, leave home once in awhile, it’s nice out. Goodnight internet tough guy!

>>510148208
A human cannot be a dog in the same exact way as male cannot be female. That is different DNA, and DNA is who you are.
There is absolutely no difference.

>>510151916
Do you practice being this stupid? Tell me, oh faggot from the retarded side of life, if gender dysphoria means to be disatisfied with ones gender, why is mutilation better than helping the person become satisfied with their gender? Is there a spectrum? Are there benchmarks? Can you have a little dysphoria that is cured when you wear a wig, or a lot of dysphporia that requires surgical intervention? How can you tell?

>>510147396 (OP)
I've got a cousin who puts his kids in private school because the public school in his town has big litterboxes in the bathrooms for kids who identify as animals.

>>510152166
>I shoot compet-ACKKKK!!!!!

>>510152084
Other than they do. Conclusively. In clinical trials. Someone post it.

>>510152166
RIP. When she finds you, your mom will scream your real name.

>>510150019
>>510147784
>dude it existed in the fringes of tumblr 15 years ago so it's OK when it's completely normalized today
Every time.

>>510147396 (OP)
The whole therian shit is fucking creepy. My cousin was into all of that, turns out some predator was grooming her on discord and turning her towards that shit, telling her to train for the "b#tt plug tail", he was arrested when my aunt went through her phone and it made his local news. I understand kids wearing masks or imagination, but this revolves around a community which is made up of coomer groomer furry degenerates.

All of them are sick, and pushing this on kids is another level of evil. Palantir now, just nuke the internet and arrest these sick cunts

This was on old mining road above a mine, it's a trail now. The minors would hike up here and drink but get hypothermia and die "three people died during the entire mining era. what a safety record" never mentioning the drunken accidents that caused hundreds of deaths. If you want to be an animal camp here unarmed alone. If the animals don't get you, Alaska, the ghosts will.

>>510147396 (OP)
28 years ago in my elementary school there was a girl that larped as a Raptor very often. Like daily.

>>510152255
In Portland, it's legal to shit on the streets in public if you're in a fursuit.

>>510152100
>therapy
so you can pay an absurd amount of money for someone to pretend to care about your issues, fake listen, then use you as a guinea pig for different meds to try and treat it? not to mention how theres absolutely no studies that show any proof of any sort of meds being able to treat gender dysphoria.
at least with the medical procedures and hormones specific for transgenderism, you are well aware of what to expect, what exactly they’re signing up for, and its not some game to see if it'll work or not.
but sure, tell me how wasting a ton of money on something with currently 0 proof of success is better than investing in something that currently has thousands of people as living proof that it has made them a happier person.

>>510147396 (OP)
So the kids a furry, wow it's fucking nothing

>>510152484
Should figure out what animals are year round open season in Oregon (like here porcupines, rabbits and grounds squirrels require no permits of any kind to hunt ever) and then shoot any furry dressed like one of those animals and use the open season as your legal defense and that you were just respecting their identity choice.

>>510152318
Stop being histrionic over something we've been making fun of for literal decades.

>>510147396 (OP)
>now
therians aren't a new thing, furries going too far have been around for at least a couple decades if they're not as old as furries to begin with

>>510152574
Lmao.

>>510152253
every mental disorder is a spectrum in how it affects people who suffer from it, for example, not everyone with bipolar disorder acts the same and can be treated the same way, this should go without having to be explained.

>>510147396 (OP)
>now
this shit is ancient. goes back all the ways to the furries. its just snowflakism for young people and a pervert fetish for those over 25.

>>510152516
Hey, faggot, why did you ignore me? I asked a very reasonable science based question I know you cant answer. What happened?

>>510152318
>completely normalized
it's gone from the fringes of tumblr to the fringes of reddit (nu-tumblr)

>>510147396 (OP)
They really mind fucked everyone

>>510152600
To do anything less would be a hate crime, no?

>>510148475
So? That doesn't change whether you have a penis or a vagina.

>>510152619
>I dont have to explain it, let's just cut off people's genitals
You are an idiot, and your stupidity directly hurts people. If you're ignorant of the benchmarks and have no interest in learning, you have no right talking about it as an authority; that's fundamentally misleading. If you dont know the extent someone is suffering from something, you cant assess whether it's improving regardless of treatment.

>>510147396 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjEmcIQE9L4

>>510147396 (OP)

Look up William Baldwin and Robert Bruce, interesting dudes who did exorcisms. They found that many demons appeared (to psychics) as a mixture of human and animal, and would attach through sexual trauma. Both also recorded numerous cases of gender dysphoria that were permanently cured after removing an attached entity. It's not talked about, but they had actual stats.

Are wiggers therians?

>>510152529
It's like the advanced stage of furfaggotry where the fursona becomes an identity the furry wants to larp as indefinitely and expects everyone else needs to larp like it's a goddamned furry convention. This all started by receiving a hug from a mascot.
Even with all that it's still less disturbing than trannies. The 21st century sure is exciting.

>>510152767
i believe in the right for an adult to choose to do what he or she pleases to their own body, i dont not believe in any sort of influence or glamorization of transgenderism or any of its medical treatments to the public in any way shape or form. in fact, i'd greatly discourage anyone from transitioning and let it be an absolute last resort. transgenderism is something you suffer from, not something you take pride in. but people that suffer from things should still be allowed to live as they please.
the extent of someone suffering is between that adult and his or her doctor, hence why only adults should be allowed to transition, they are old enough to make those decisions.

>>510152587
Pointing out reality is just that, not sure why you're mad. We made fun of them when they were circus freaks normal people would avoid at all costs. Now everyone accepts it because it's considered mean not to.
>>510152630
reddit is the 9th most used online service in the world with as many unique IP visits as wikipedia. Tumblr was never close to that level of reach. All signs point to weird shit like this being normalized. Not sure why people fight so hard to deny it.

>>510153028
That sure is what you believe and has nothing to do with evidence based medicine. I'm suffering from your stupidity, and to feel better I need $500,000 and a 1984 monte carlo ss. No? That's unreasonable? Well gee whizz, sounds like you believe in nothing. If genital mutilation is "the only treatment", you've done research, right? Otherwise you're going to look really silly when I tell you doctors are more than happy to mutilate a crazy person for a lifetime of paycheques with minimal scientific backing, in exchange for social credit, under the pressure of radically crazy people undergoing psychosis, who also refuse medication, and have communities of people who get off sexually on people irrepairably ruining themselves. Wouldnt that be embarassing.

>>510152994
Morale will decline until the beatings improve.

>>510148529
your "point" being?...

>>510147396 (OP)
...am i just getting old?
therians and 'otherkin' nonsense have not just been around since like 2012, but were literally practically the start of the rise of all this woke nonsense. the warning signs of this nonsense basically started with those types on tumblr. i remember /pol/ (and other places) used to dig through tumblr to find their posts to make fun of.

>>510147396 (OP)
>mentally ill status: upgraded!

>>510153407
i'd phrase it more with medical transition being the only solution, which usually starts off with hormones and the first surgery often being something that isnt genital-related, most trans ppl in fact never undergo any sort of genital surgery.
>you've done research, right?
not relevant, i have my own experiences to go based off and even if i did pull up any research, you'd simply belittle it by either saying its not truthful or with the other point you made about how pharmacies get rich off of trans people transitioning, which to that i say, is this not the case with almost everything else as well? this is not exclusive to transgender treatment. you can’t possible think big corporations have your best interest as a consumer?
> and have communities of people who get off sexually on people irrepairably ruining themselves.
youre thinking of chasers, whom are cis, or AGP "transsexuals", which are fueled by a fetish and not gender dysphoria, therefore making them not actually trans. yet again, proving you arent properly educated on the things you speak on,

>>510153930
There's no baby here that can get thrown out with the bathwater. Since, even culling faggots with fire didn't stop it, all of it needs to go back into the darkness. People engaging in it need to be shamed. The maniacs recommending it as healthy by any professional in the field of medicine should be hung.

>>510153930
>proving you arent properly educated on the things you speak on,
So, educate me. What are the bench marks? What is the methodology to determine improvement? When should you change from one technique to another for treatment? How do you determine whether the side effects of treatment are greater than the issue, especially considering many of them are irreversible? Shove this whole retarded holier than thou martyr shit in lieu of an argument straight up your illogical ass. I asked a specific medical question about dysphoria, something you were more than happy to lecture us on a second ago. Either you know and you dont want to share, which means you're a moralizing elitist prick, or you dont know and you're pulling it out of your ass for ideological purposes, which makes you a negligent charlatan who is actively hurting people.

Balls in your court. This is how real science works, faggot.

>>510152516
>0 proof of success
lol, just cut your dick off already. We can't wait for you to kill yourself :)

>>510154434
Knock it off, we're shooting for deconversions and talking young men down from ledges in 2025.

>>510153661
You can't tell these kids that, they only just found out about it and don't understand that things exist outside of their perception yet.

>>510154546
nah fuck that learn your history, faggots.

>"GUYS, THIS YEAR OLD REDDIT THREAD SAYS..!"

>>510154764
Also on December 25th of this year nobody is allowed to post or respond to agitprop and everyone has to politely discuss everything.

>>510154501
why bother? accelerate! A dead troon is a better testimony to the worthlessness of transitioning anyhow faggot

>>510154322
most of this is common sense
>What is the methodology to determine improvement?
well simply communicating with the patient is the pretty obvious answer, thats why mental health check-ups before and after the surgery are apart of the process. in fact for some surgeons actual require a diagnosis from a gender therapist with gender dysphoria and/or proof of an at-home support system before being eligible for the surgery.
>When should you change from one technique to another for treatment?
there isnt a set plan for transition, the trans person themselves is the one who figures out what works for them and their transition goal. they are the ones to reach out to doctors/surgeons for what they are looking to have done. pharmacies/doctors are not in charge of the decision making of any of this outside of medical guidance for things like recovery time.
>How do you determine whether the side effects of treatment are greater than the issue, especially considering many of them are irreversible?
like any surgical procedure, transgender or not, it is made known to patient on the risks, side effects, and how reversible or not it is. yet again, the adult patient is old enough to decide for his or her self if they are willing to take that risk, as with any other surgery. no one has done more research on the outcome of transgender surgeries than trans people themselves.

>>510154947
Love conquers all. Not the shameful slogans used by trannies to force feed them every insanity but actually validating that their life has value. (if they're White enough).

>>510147396 (OP)
I KNEW I was a budgie

>>510155068
>Love conquers all
oh yeah? Is it love that human history is riddled with? Or is it wars? Get your head out of you ass dipshit

>>510155209
Out of absolute love for his people the White man slays his enemies for survival.

>>510155282
ahhhh! Thats why we went into Afghanistan and Iraq! You have to be 18 to post here kid

>>510154434
provide some proof then if you disagree

>>510147396 (OP)
I noticed he didn't say anything about his dad.

>>510155377
you made the claim faggot. I won't waste my time proving a negative.

>>510155209
This gift of life is worth dying for, it's worth killing for. It's those that disregard their lives for your benefit that you will revere the most, hopefully. Unfortunately, there's (((something))) over a person's left shoulder that constantly is agonizing him about what he NEEDS.

>>510147790
You're so full of shit. It's a queer identity thing to groom little kids into getting fucked in the ass at fur cons. You know full fucking well it appeals to children and if you scroll down any therian's algorithm the faggy furry shit lands in front of their eyes. I saw a 6th grade girl drawing a bisexual pride flag at an all ages open mic, lo and behold, there's a fucking fox tail clipped to her back pack.

You faggots are deplorable and can't kill yourselves any quicker.

>>510155490
>life is worth dying for
kek, this is your last (you). You are too fucking stupid to continue speaking to

>>510148320
Kinda sad/funny how all this "dysphoria" is literally them seeing their becoming mildly conscious and aware enough to play with an idea as a problem, so its a bad sensation. Muh anxiety. HELP IM HAVING GANGSTER DYSPHORIA BECAUSE IM ENJOYING BOARDWALK EMPIRE TOO MUCH!!

>>510147396 (OP)
Add another letter to the acronym.

>>510155057
>there isnt a set plan for transition, the trans person themselves is the one who figures out what works for them and their transition goal. they are the ones to reach out to doctors/surgeons for what they are looking to have done
This is the most pseudoscientific bullshit I have ever heard in my life. How the fuck did you type this with a straight face? Crazy people just decide whatever they want? No, come on. No evidence. No charting outcomes. No staged approach. Just here, you want to chop your cock and balls off, go talk to a therapist and convince them you should? I couldnt get a sleep study done with less rigor.

>like any surgical procedure, transgender or not, it is made known to patient on the risks, side effects, and how reversible or not it is. yet again, the adult patient is old enough to decide for his or her self if they are willing to take that risk, as with any other surgery. no one has done more research on the outcome of transgender surgeries than trans people themselves
Are you fucking high? If you get a real surgery, in the consult a medical professional goes over the statistical likelihood of each course of treatment, makes sure you thoroughly understand the process and how it works, then gets you to sign a liability waver showing consent. The trans person is expected to do the research? These people are mentally ill, irrational, and looking to chop off their genitals or irrepairably fuck up their endocrine system. And you just expect them to be medically literate instead of ideologically driven? Tattoos have more rigor, apparently.

> in fact for some surgeons actual require a diagnosis from a gender therapist with gender dysphoria and/or proof of an at-home support system before being eligible for the surgery.
Some dont? That's fucking madness and deserves no further discussion. You can just go in and get your tits sliced off with no rigor? Christ almighty how the fuck are you advocating for this if you know anything about science?

>>510155368
That's what they thought they were doing. Love can, and has, been used against people many times. You should understand that the Greeks had a plethora of words that mean love. Civic, parental, sexual, respectful, reverential, etc... The soldier exhibits a civic love that should be received and reciprocated by his countrymen.

>>510155625
It is also directly related to the growing issue with applying Apollonic methodology to what should be spontaneous free-form dionysiatic experiences. "I took a BDSM quiz and it told me that I am a (insert long string of phrases which just means heterosexual male)"

>>510155625
seeing that they're*

>>510152994
Trannies are also involved in the therian trend. TikTok starts it. Trannies then encourage it. It’s parallel with the femboy psyop.

>Trannies groom on Discord
>Trannies hype up femboy, furry, therian, trans, enby trend with nerdy quirky fun shit.
>TikTok shills it
>Vulnerable teenagers think this shit is an organic trend that everyone’s doing
>Those who caved in and joined the bandwagon were essentially groomed and tricked to be a femboy furry faggot or a young scenecore girl fucked up on antidepressants and hormones

Many such cases. Look at any teenager that identifies as a furry and you will see an absent dad, an abusive evangelical household, or molestation. You will notice all of them have anxiety and are skittish.

>>510148341
Nah dude. You'll never win back acceptance. Y'all lost your chance when you went after trans kids. Everybody hates you and the always will. Just kys.

>>510155612
JUST TAKE MY HAND MAN! WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS TOGETHER!

I would rather have a girl that thinks she's a dog (cute) than a boy that thinks he's a girl (gay).

>>510147784
I fear that vrchat has accelerated it

>>510148762
I might have I might be a lesbian with a horse cock but that doesn't make me a horse.

>>510155921
FFS, anon, do you hear yourself anymore?

Guarantee there is no father on the scene.

It is almost always single mothers letting their kids troon out. Their husband left them and they're terrified that their kid will too so when little Timmy comes out and says he wants to be called Tiffany now, she is just like "S-Sure honey, whatever makes you happy. Y-You won't leave will you? You know how supportive I am of your choices"

>>510151009
The logical conclusion of rampant neoliberalism.

>>510155995
Tell ya what, you can die mad about it ane I'll die having impregnated the closest thing we'll ever get to a wolfgirl in this life, and have lots of tiny cute children, and then at the end we can meet back up and you can wag your finger at me all you want then

>>510147396 (OP)
I warned you about therians and yes it's actually a big thing among 7-12 year olds and many older. The most freakish thing you'll ever see is therian jumps. I don't bother making OC for 4chan this place is so behind on everything.

>>510156168
No! Why do you want to be weirdos with puppies, ffs. Can't you just be normal? Like, it's none of my business if she wants some kind roleplay but it's a complete mistake to get any children involved or advertise this behavior to others.

>>510153661
>tfw this video is 20 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85y-N5GJa9g

I think you fucked up if you ever get the point where your kid is debating their identity. I've validated the fuck out of my daughter for any positive actions she's from day 1 and she's never had any identity crisis because she feels super proud about who she is as a person. If you build your kid up they won't have to look for ways to reconcile who they are and who they think the world wants them to be.

Parents are to blame, as always.

>>510147396 (OP)
Kek. Even the tranny acknowledges how both delusions sound the same to everyone else:
>"Mom, I'm a furfag now!"
>"That's nice, dear."

>>510155625
>all this "dysphoria" is literally them seeing their becoming mildly conscious and aware enough to play with an idea as a problem
It's reality slapping them in the face but they refuse to accept it.

>>510155683
>>510155057
One more thing. Before you inevitably say I'm not a doctor, I'm a data scientist. I work on medical research all the time. If someone came to me with this kind of methodology advocating extremely invasive surgery and life altering treatment, not only would it be illegal to promote, you'd never get it peer reviewed, you'd be laughed out of the goddamned building, and your medical license would be under review if you had a practice. Imagine this exact logic applied to tonsil removal, or getting a lap band proceedure.

>>510148320
There's no way these people aren't just taking the piss

>>510156504
>I'm going to own this schizophrenic with facts and logic EPIC STYLE!!!
Take a step back and look at what you're doing, dude. Do you think you'll convince the crazy tranny to stop being a crazy tranny?

>>510147396 (OP)
they should all identify as semites

>>510156681
Maybe he hasn't past the point of no return, yet.

>>510147396 (OP)
The underlying problem here is the mom. Moms are way too accepting of stupid shit. Having a dad come in and say "This is fucking retarded you're not doing it" is all you need to start course correcting this kind of retardation but that kid will never get it

>>510156681
Nope, I'm just doing my due dilligence. I'm mostly doing it for fun. Who knows, they might realize their unscientific bullshit is absurd when they're forced to engage with it. Either way, I get to insult them AND their literature; it's a win win.

humanity is insane

I'm going to transform myself into a crow

>>510156865
Yeah, whose fault is that?

>>510155683
>Crazy people just decide whatever they want?
you asked me what should change from one technique from another, not if transgenderism is a "crazy people" thing or not. if youre just going to ignore the actual points i make to just dumb everything down to you not understanding the basis of gender dysphoria and the extremity it has on those who suffer from it, then why bother asking me anything?
what more do you expect from the process that really is simplified to a grown adult consenting to something that only affects themselves?
someone suffering from something that you dont understand doesn’t equate to that person being some insane person who cannot make their own decisions. you are basing things on your subjective opinion yet asking me for objectives.
>The trans person is expected to do the research?
i didnt say that, i literally agreed with you on what happens with the first thing you said, that the consult and given information is done for ALL surgeries, including trans ones, what about my wording confused you?
>Tattoos have more rigor, apparently.
what is this, your third time now talking about things as if you know more about it than an actual trans person, you have proven yourself wrong once again. multiple pre-surgical appointments/consults are done before any trans surgeries occur, including ones that arent even specific to gentials like top surgery and ffs. tattoos you can get walk-ins done.
>You can just go in and get your tits sliced off with no rigor?
this surgical procedure has already existed for women dealing with breast cancer, its not some new science/ untested procedure, stop letting your subjective opinions affect your outlook on everything.

>>510147396 (OP)
why is it allowed to come out as an animal but not as trans-racial?

>>510157027
You didnt make any "actual points". You didnt cite any data, you didnt use anything objective for measurement, and you didnt really read what I said. You didnt say anything about gender dysphoria, how it's measured, or how you assess whether which treatment is applicable. You said they can do whatever they want.

>what more do you expect from the process that really is simplified to a grown adult consenting to something that only affects themselves?
A minimal baseline of scientific competency, with assessments, using clear numbers, benchmarks, courses of escalting treatment, and clear outcome probabilities. Like you have for every other medical procedure.
>i didnt say that
Yup, you did. And I quote: "no one has done more research on the outcome of transgender surgeries than trans people themselves".

>multiple pre-surgical appointments/consults are done before any trans surgeries occur, including ones that arent even specific to gentials like top surgery and ffs. tattoos you can get walk-ins done.
But if you want to do something harmful, like peirce your anus closed or get a cock drawn on your face, they'll say no. That's far more rigor than you suggested if the trans person can just decide to do whatever they want you dumbass.

>this surgical procedure has already existed for women dealing with breast cancer, its not some new science/ untested procedure, stop letting your subjective opinions affect your outlook on everything.
My fucking sides. Reread that. Read it again. An emergency treatment for a rapidly spreading disease that will certainly kill you is being compared to feeling unsatisfied. Not feeling euphoric.

So, in Greek love takes on a meaning defining a relationship to another human being. For hatred, their words applied to deeds, mostly.

>>510147396 (OP)
>theran
>OP is acting as though this LARP bullshit hasn't been around since the 2010s
>>510148423
>furries roleplay as animals for fun
True, I haven't seen anyone beyond a few crazy people believe their fursonas are actually who they are in real life.
>therians are children that genuinely think they were born in the wrong body/ wrong species and that they were meant to be an animal or were one in a past life.
That's actually what most people call "retarded".
>>510149306
>Therian is literally just a younger version of a furry
No. Therians are just retarded.

>>510157554
>You didnt cite any data,
i already explained in a previous post why this wouldnt work here
and i did read what you said, it was hard to find anything worth value because you arent able to detach yourself from your pre-existing opinion of ppl seeking treatment for their mental disorder being equated to intentionally malicious people unable to consent despite being fully grown adults.
>A minimal baseline of scientific competency, with assessments, using clear numbers, benchmarks, courses of escalting treatment, and clear outcome probabilities.
all of which exist to some degree for every aspect of trans medical treatment, you just simply believe its not adequate enough because they still allow ppl to transition in the end, the only winning here is if it ended with a complete ban on any form of transition, which by the way would cause a huge spike in suicide rates, theres no winning here with you people.
>Yup, you did. And I quote: "no one has done more research on the outcome of transgender surgeries than trans people themselves".
an obvious hyperbole, i was making a point on how trans ppl are already aware of these risks and outcomes of the things they sign up for, yes the doctor will still inform them accordingly.
>But if you want to do something harmful, like peirce your anus closed or get a cock drawn on your face, they'll say no. That's far more rigor than you suggested if the trans person can just decide to do whatever they want you dumbass.
cool? youre the one who brought up tattoos as an analogy for trans medical care, not me.
>An emergency treatment for a rapidly spreading disease that will certainly kill you is being compared to feeling unsatisfied. Not feeling euphoric.
the fact that you simplified gender dysphoria to "feeling unsatisfied" truly shows that you have not a single clue about what gender dysphoria actually is and how it affects people. youre completely out of your depth here.

>>510147396 (OP)
That's just fat wiccan chicks "other kin" it's been going on for decades they're like you but somehow bigger fags (somehow)

>>510151050
>hold on let me just pump up my dick real fast *squeezes balls*
>ready for sex!

>>510157922
Holy shit. Are you saying furry siblings are becoming otherkin? That's a pattern.

>>510147396 (OP)
>therian
why the fuck do they have to make up words for everything, oh i wentd up the stair on all fours, i must be a therian folks. fuck off

Listen up kiddies. First it was bands like vanilla ice and beastie boys. Until, it became utterly nigger. Things just progress this way and people saying otherwise are lying. It's what underrepresented people have been saying all along.

>>510158196
>furry siblings
I did not mention furry siblings, but I merely called therians "retarded" because their self-identification is made-up 2010s Tumblr bullshit.
>becoming otherkin
"Becoming" otherkin is a choice, much like how trans self-identification is a choice. Furry is just dumb roleplay. Therians are legit mental retardation.

>>510158280
They have a constant need to be more special than everyone around them. Even within their own community, there are "Omnitherians" who are specialer than regular therians because they identify as multiple animals instead of one.

>>510158040
You cant read, can you? You dont seem to understand what science and medicine are. The only tool in your bag is saying adults can do whatever they want, and implying I dont know what I'm talking about. That isnt a medical proceedure, that's a cosmetic one. I am a data scientist. I do medical research. I would critique an academic study if you had the capacity to present one. I expect evidence. Qualitative is fine. I want to know the standard deviation in outcomes for each course of treatment versus a control group. I want to see an incremental escalting assessment before resulting to invasive surgery. I want EVIDENCE and a risk assessment before doing something extreme, like chopping off your cock for medical purposes. Do you have any?

>you just simply believe its not adequate enough because they still allow ppl to transition in the end, the only winning here is if it ended with a complete ban on any form of transition, which by the way would cause a huge spike in suicide rates, theres no winning here with you people.
Cool, prove it with numbers. Compare it to treatments. Stop assuming my argument.
>obvious hyperbole
Not when they can refer themselves and you, an advocate advising people, are unable to use the scientific method.

I brought up tattoos to show you THEY HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO PREVENT HARM you incredible retard, not a self referred subjective assessment of feelings.

And for the record I USED THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF DYSPHORIA. The opposite of euphoria. Slap gender in front, that's what it means.


Now are you going to show me numbers, or admit you lack the capacity and are advocating for unscientific cosmetic mutilation as a medical treatment?

>>510158409
They're in a cult man! India is an organization of cults. I refuse the shit bath.

>>510147396 (OP)
The therians captain? Should we radio the fleet.

>>510158529
>They're in a cult man!
Everyone in this country is in a cult of some kind, anon. Some burgers worship Labubus. Others worship politicians.

>>510158566
No, we can handle it.

>>510147396 (OP)
I call it 5 years ago: splicing from Batman Beyond is bound to become a real thing.

You haven’t even begun to witness the horrors

>>510158625
Maybe not changing all your standards to accommodate aliens isn't a great idea.

>>510158459
the stats arent accurate when they larp together detransitioners and fetishists with actual trans people.

>>510158040
>words words words words even when you're backpedaling on why you can't write words
Meanwhile all I have to do is type
>XY

I'm trans kill all kikes

>>510158725
So the stats arent accurate. Which means accurate stats dont exist. So you're willing to advocate chopping off your cock and balls with ZERO study. I didnt even need to critique the pruned data, the data collection methods, the framing of outcomes, or the length of the study, which I was prepared for. Your position is there are no numbers to support whether it works, correct? And you're advocating for cosmetic mutilation of sexual organs on that basis, correct?

>>510158787
>Where do we send the torpedo?

>>510158787
We're just going to kill you. Have you considered acting like a normal human being?

>>510147396 (OP)
This is just a manifestation of autism. Not entirely unlike the watching of anime.

>>510147396 (OP)
>came out as trans
>gets arts and crafts supplies at the store to make an animal mask

So you are mentally ill. Got it!

>>510158999
Nice digits though

>>510147616
>>510148010
>There are two kinds of Gen Z
>Therian troid ACKs
>Doctos lovin' 'triotic 'arteens
DOCTOS
OCTOSD
CTOSDO
TOSDOC
OSDOCT
SDOCTO

>>510158636
Captain I’m reading a large Jewish conspiracy coming your way.

>>510158766
wrong type
>>510158871
i didnt say there werent any stats, just that i dont care to show any, i dont exactly spend my free time collecting stats, normal people dont make decisions like that. im not a doctor nor a trans activist in any way, you tried to belittle the things i said by claiming the extent of most of my arguments were that of "adults should be allowed to do what they want". and when it comes to others, trans or not, doing things that only affect themselves then yes i do in fact stand by that point, even with how simple it is. if i need any additional research then it'd be due to progress in my own personal transition and choices, i see no point to outside of that.
the stats could show a 99% unsatisfactory rate and suicide rate for all i care and that still wouldnt change my mind, there is no alternative. i make decisions based on my own needs and wants, not others.
> And you're advocating for cosmetic mutilation of sexual organs on that basis, correct?
i already stated well before that i see transition as a last resort and that i in fact would discourage someone from transitioning.

>>510151050
this is literally in the wrong place
lmfao
it's too high

>>510159005
Autism doesn’t exist. Just trauma and neglect symptoms which leads to poor development.

>>510159238
It's over. You are already dead. You have proven you dont know what you're talking about, you have done zero research to back it up, you are unable or willing to do additional research to support your position, and evidently, made a stupid choice with zero scientific backing that you cannot reconsile it with the information needed to justify it.

I'm sorry this happened to you. I lament your absence of genitals and the unscientific disruption of your endocrine system. All you can do is learn from it. You arent arguing medicine, you are arguing a radical life changing ideology, and you made a silly choice with no research to support the outcome because someone abused you at a point of weakness into accepting it. This is why science, math, and numbers wont help. Try your best anon, I dont hate you, I pity you and wish you had more support.

>>510147396 (OP)
Totally not a mental illness btw

adults are transjewish now

>>510148043
you wont do shit therianmutt lmao
>2 more weeks
>I WONT DO SHIT
thats right

thank you for your attention on this matter

>>510147396 (OP)
Wtf

>Its just otherkin
Not exactly. It’s basically closeted furry with crawling on all fours. There’s even a fashion style behind it. It’s basically like those emo kids who pretended to be werewolves with Wolfie Blackheart. Most therians are usually high school aged, though unfortunately with the modern internet, groomer trannies got involved and made it even more gay and fucked up.

>Animal mask
>Y2K with earth tones and a little bit of indie
>2020s scenecore music as the de facto music genre
>Mostly teenagers following this.
However
>Everyone from all ages use discord
>Groups are rarely age restricted
>Alternative is now synonymous with gamer so these people are active in games such as 3D chat platforms with avatars, Roblox, Fortnite, etc.
Unfortunately
>Trannies like to corrupt those who are vulnerable especially in geeky or alternative circles, much like with furries
>Sprinkles in sexuality bullshit and liberalism.
>Shills femboy and tranny shit into therian circles
>Online tranny grooms vulnerable minors, usually from broken households.
>Boy therian becomes a femboy with hormone blockers, the girl therian is a non-binary wreck on SSRIs and testosterone.
>Mal-adjusted adults who are still mentally adolescent also follow this gay fad and fall for the destructive hype.
>Therians are now depressed, groomed, molested, “autistic” wrecks who clearly don’t act normal.

At face value, it just looks like another trend for teenagers like emo. The rabbit hole goes deeper with a dark side.

>literally every little boy ever: "i want to be a dinosaur!"
>previous reaction: "aw how cute"
>current reaction: "we have to inject my son with lizard dna"

>>510159542
i accept your concession

>>510160112
You can't even accept yourself.

>>510160005
Today it’s
> “My son is a grown ass man and he now thinks he’s a woman and a dinosaur. I’m too lazy to fix his retard ass but I still love him. As long as he’s happy.”
>Fucker ain’t happy

>>510160186
That’s gotta sting!

>>510160186
being true to your inner self despite the social backlash is actually showing to have more self acceptance than anything else

>>510148853
It's definitively not happening and even if it's happening, it's a good thing. This society is doomed.

>>510152994

Therians are to furries what trannies are to femboys: A kinky but mostly harmless hobby taken to the extreme and turned into a delusional lifestyle.

>>510160112
What concession? I proved you wrong by every metric possible. I was showing some humanity because I recognize how fucked up your situation is and it's not your fault.

>>510160342
Well, I guess it is. Your true self died when you mutilated yourself beyond repair. It will never come back. Hope you enjoy life as a medical abomination with a community of cenobites for support; I had your back but evidentally you'd prefer to ignore your stolkholm syndrome. But if you really reconsiled what you've done, you'd have an existential break, so I dont fault your delusion. I do pity you.

>>510147396 (OP)
This isn't new. Tumblr was full of this snowflake shit back in the day.

>>510147396 (OP)
Everything goes as planned.

>>510160659
you didnt prove me wrong by suddenly making the discussion a win or lose sort of thing based on the sole fact that i didnt dump down a ton of links to data that even if analyzed, in the end, wouldnt have changed my opinion on things nor yours.
>I recognize how fucked up your situation is and it's not your fault.
strange way to view things but not exactly wrong, however you continuously misunderstand that source of this all is gender dysphoria, not some external source/ choice like you ppl seem to believe. youre so close yet so far.
>Hope you enjoy life as a medical abomination
what you ppl view as an abomination of a physical body is how trans ppl view their natural, untransitioned body, its not only extremely closeminded but outright ignorant to simply ignore the mindset trans ppl have for when and how they transition and to instead simply label it as nonsensical.
its nonsensical to you, but its not happening to you or your body, so why should that matter.

>>510160186
BRUTAL

>>510147396 (OP)
a small reminder

>>510151050
I agree, we should bring back lobotomies too.

>>510147396 (OP)
I remember scrolling past some therian teenager on youtube and the surprising thing wasnt the support, no it was the people being neutral

>>510161908
I just read the subreddit and it’s groomer central. I don’t mean inherently trans I mean like this bullshit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Therian/comments/1ldn17f/how_can_i_best_engage_with_my_therian_students_as/

Or this

https://www.reddit.com/r/Therian/comments/1lhn6q9/supporting_my_10_year_old_therian_daughter/