Thread 510172736

>>510172736 (OP)
>mathmatical lies
>BUDGET SURPLUS

wow a whole 27 billion time to borrow a trillion more dollars then and pay it off over 50 more years

>>510172886
Hey, beats how Clinton got his famous surplus :^)

>can't stop winning
he CAN'T keep getting away with this

>>510172736 (OP)
Tariffs work

I can't wait till we give this to Israel

>>510173018
But for how long?

>>510173068
Wow you must be brown because israelis definitely aren’t brown.

>>510172736 (OP)
So the national debt won't be going up this year right?

>>510173073
For the foreseeable future.
The US may have problems, but in a race against a bear you only have to be faster than the others.

>>510172736 (OP)
And not a single dollar of it will go towards making the lives of the citizens better.

>>510172736 (OP)
>tax the shit out of everyone with tariffs
>WOW A SURPLUS!!

>>510172736 (OP)
27/36,000
Only 35,973 to go!!
Btw the highest possible long term revenue from imports will probably be $300bil a year. It’s nothing.

>trump has never ran a surplus in 5 years until now

>>510173197
this figure is before sending it to israel

paid for by the consumer and businesses though?

so no one is benefitting but the govt.

>>510172736 (OP)
If this keeps up we could pay off the current debt in just 108 years!

>>510172917
You kidding me young man!? That 27 billion that needs to be in izrul right now.

>>510172917
it's a good start retard
you can start using the growing surplus to pay down the debt, which will increase investor confidence which will lower the rates that you can borrow at
It's a good thing, no need to act that way

>no link
>can't find any tweets about budget surplus
why do trumpniggers love lying so much

>>510173342
but it would not matter even if it did because the next level is then raised to the cry of "why can't the lives of the citizens be better". It is all relative of course, what exactly would be better for people, no niggers, no kikes, everyone rich or just your life better? When anons from the US (or at least with the US flag) boast about how great their life is, how they are raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, got that new full specced F150 and will be changing it next years for a new one you dod have to then question when others complain about so much. Of course it could all be a Hollywood BS, sure there are plenty of US citizens with money, but the amount of crying that goes on you do have to wonder and i do assume they don't' even live near kikes or niggers.

>>510173906
>can't find any tweets
dear oh dear, is this how it is now - social fucking media is how it goes down?

>>510173906
it's on CNBC as well retard

>>510173870
Ayo, this nigga believes the (((government))).

>>510172736 (OP)
For those wondering they're counting the tariff income now, but they're not counting the massive losses from businesses collapsing until the end of the financial year.

>>510172736 (OP)
>budget surplus of $27 billion
>just added trillions to the debt
hmmmmmmm something doesn't add up here.

>>510172736 (OP)
It's like being 6 months behind on your mortgage, having 4 monthly $1400 payments on your shitty cars, 14 creditcards maxed out but finding a $1 coin in your wallet.

>>510173002
Can you imagine the level of scumbag-iness you have to be to do what Clinton did? Married. PRESIDENT. Bangs an intern IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
I mean. FUCK.
And, AND Hitlery stayed! For power no doubt, she had plans.

>>510173139
exactly debt doesn’t matter as long as it benefits israel the true “white” position. lol miga is mmt

>>510174600
You mean that nice Jewish girl Monica Lewinsky who in no way at all was used to get dirt on Clinton.

>>510172736 (OP)
DC accounting is even more Jewish than Hollywood accounting in 2025.

>>510172736 (OP)
It's tariffs. We're being taxed in a way that punishes consumers generally rather than those who can afford it.

>The Treasury Department noted that the month benefited from calendar adjustments, without which the deficit would have been $70 billion.

Oh, it's (((math)))

>>510174396
yeah well, biden wouldn't have found that coin, he was the worst president ever

>>510172736 (OP)
Increasing taxes means the government will have more of its people's stolen money, yes.

american right ringers in 2025:
>I LOVE PAYING TAXES LOOK TRUMP IS MAKING THE GOVERNMENT RICH!

>>510172736 (OP)
I’m glad the government has billions more to give to Israel while everything I buy costs twice as much.

was it the usAIDS

>>510172736 (OP)
NO INCOME TAX
I want my dividend check quarterly
it's about time this cunt was run as a profitable business. Im a stock holder and i want my cut

>>510173342
oy vey!

>>510172736 (OP)
This thread clearly proves that people on this board don't understand how the economy works.

>>510172736 (OP)
More money for ZOG to spend on Israel

>>510172736 (OP)
I don't know how to check this but it smells like bullshit. Medicaid, arguably the only possible place from which we're "gaining" significant savings, hasn't even been cut yet. There is literally no way we could have a budgetary surplus right now in real terms because the ONLY ACTUAL SAVINGS are still hypothetical.

I'm saying they're hypothetical because the people who lose coverage aren't going to just be denied treatment. They're still going to be treated, and even if they go into forever-debt, much (more? externalities exist and are very real) of the cost of their treatment is still going to be passed onto taxpayers. The most "optimistic" projection here, if we discard the infinitely cynical "hope" that people just die at home instead of seeking treatment, is that states will pick up the bill... and since very few, if any, will be in a position to do so, we're likely looking at increased federal funding to those states unless the feds just want to let 40 states go bankrupt.

>The Treasury Department noted that the month benefited from calendar adjustments, without which the deficit would have been $70 billion.

LMAO

>>510174205
>massive losses from businesses collapsing
marsupialniggers need to cope harder

>>510172736 (OP)
Source: trust me bro

>>510172736 (OP)
>muh surplus
Very cool, now where's the list

>>510173197
lol, lmao

>>510172736 (OP)
The 5 trillion BBB doesn't count for anything right

>>510172917
correct

>>510172736 (OP)
savings? any savings will be used immediately on isreal. the us government is not reducing spending under trump.

>>510176251
I just don't know what Trump was thinking. Over the last 15-20 years, healthcare has been an enormous focus. We've debated an endless array of options. Trump seems to have discarded each and every option proposed in favor of "just cut healthcare haha," thereby completely discarding the debate entirely in favor of a sweeping destruction of national healthcare policy. Even "destruction" isn't strong enough language -- he has functionally abrogated the entire discourse; retroactively returning the entire discussion to first principles absent anything but RICH PEOPLE NO PAY MONEY. It's just stupid policy. It is unsophisticated and cares literally nothing for any interests except those of the rich... who, let's face it, are doing as well as they've literally ever done. They're richer now than they've been since the Gilded Age. Now, we're subsidizing them even more.

I guess I just don't get it. It makes me feel like I'm missing some super-advanced big-brain line of reasoning. I'm terrified that's not the case.

>>510172736 (OP)
>>510172917
>>510173870
It's all fake, niggers. Muh debt is such a dumb stupid boomer retard issue. They WORSHIP the idea of taking money and paying it. It's whipped into them. That's why both political sides use it.

Republicans say MUH HECKIN DEBT and use it to cut their influence and government power (thereby enabling Dems to win) and Democrats say MUH HECKIN DEBT NEED TO RAISE TAXES do they don't talk or do anything else just use it as a cope and excuse and HELLOOOOOOO????? WHO DO YOU THINK OWNS THE DEBT AND GETS THE MONEY WHEN ITS PAID OFF.

Its not, "1. you took out a loan, 2. You pay it back", it's actually, "you lended to a nuclear superpower that could wipe you off the face of the earth"

Here's a guide for you:

1. Anyone talking about the debt is over the age of 35, maybe even 30.

2. Gen z will never care about it. Ever. Any gen z literally talking about it has the tism.

No exceptions. You talk about the debt because you must have a pretty good life and think balancing the budget and paying some heckin bills will set you on the right track. Whowwssh heckin fiscal responsibility and doing the right gosh darn thing and paying your fair share. It's a reflection of old asses who had it good and they are cucked and whipped into a certain rigidity of thought.

Oldfags need not reply. I hate your guts and I hate you. Being into le anime, gay shit, bing bing wahoo is what brought you weirdos to 4chan forty years ago or whatever. Calling me immature or a zoomer isn't an argument. You'll just get mad and not be able to refute me and call me immature but in reality it's cope and projection and needed to expose you as the pathetic man children cucks you really are up front before you start running your mouths. Demolished you and your stupid thread and your stupid debate. Go back to gooning and playing games on your weekend shift from your ez cush job mindless retards.

except it isn't actually a budget surplus and they're lying again. the budget is increasing our debt but tariffs reduced the amount our debt increased by 27 billion, which wasn't in the budget, so they are calling that exact number a "budget surplus" despite there being no budget surplus and our debt is still increasing. i fucking hate it here.

government figures
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny
>6/2/2025 public debt $36,214,400,664,854.53
>7/10/2025 public debt $36,595,101,611,079.13
so the debt increased by $380,000,000,000.00ish dollars from june until 2 days ago, that isn't a budget surplus.

>>510176251
>I don't know how to check this but it smells like bullshit
it is bullshit, here >>510176992

>>510174205
HAHAHAHAH THIS COPE
The shit non Americans are saying about a place they don't live in is insane

>I am MAD about this
Ok lol

>>510172736 (OP)
That's 27 billion that can go to Israel!

>>510172736 (OP)
Trump is stealing from american businesses by collecting these illegal import duties.

>>510176992
>NOOOOOOOO nooo NO!!!!!!!!! I SAID NO. NOT the heckin numberinooos we better pay the kind lenders back with double interest and tip, raise taxes and PAY IT BACK NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Overage poster spotted.

>>510177286
Israel needs that money. The businesses do not. Cool it or you will be up for deportation, anti semits.

>>510172736 (OP)
kek. literal bs propaganda to make it look its okay to send more money to israel

it
is
impossible
to
have
a
surplus
with
debt

>>510177041
So it's basically what you'd output if it came from above that you have to announce a certain outcome and your job depends on throwing together the most-plausible way to present TERRIBLE THING as AMAZING THING.

>>510177312
>Overage poster spotted.
pretty soon being able to read and access data will be criminal offenses

>>510177416
kek funny guy dont you know they weaponised language so long ago that people go to jail for it


Also
its a small win supluss compared to the debt LOL

not that debt hahahahah

>>510172736 (OP)
>40T debt
>budget surplus
Mkay

>>510177451
every single thing written by a journalist since the 2000s is bullshit propaganda. any time you see someone claiming something go look at the data yourself and you can figure out in 10 minutes what is actually going on and how they are lying to you. all of (subverted) western civilization is built on the unfortunate reality that 95% of the population won't read and look at numbers.

>>510177631
The Party has increased the chocolate ration to twenty grams... but no one ever seems to have chocolate anyway.

>>510177621
budget isnt lending stay away from finance

>i have a $10 budget for memes
>im in serious debt
>i spent $6 on memes

>>510177726
hahahahhahahahhahaha

>>510172736 (OP)
Didn’t they just pass a 3 trillion dollar bill?
I guess all the delays momentarily stopped the government spending.

>>510172736 (OP)
>40 Trillion in debt

>>510177463
>Help I'm being oppressed for being
They LOVE when you advocate for paying the debt off and thank you for it which is why politicians of both sides of the isle harp on the debt and why this 100% cap is published in the first place. Wow that will fix this mess if only muh heckin debts are paid the US would be perfect. Don't give that money to white people or build houses or big jobs, just heckin pay LE DEBT. It is the biggest dumbest most cucked move you could possibly do.

If gen z is ever in power, I have news for you. You will be oppressed and midwits like you lowkey shouldn't be taught to read so you don't shit the world up with your garbage takes, and your mind can be put to use brick laying or other slave bs. You don't deserve to be able to read because you're a stupid midwit doing the boomer male version of handmaids tale. Initial post wasn't profound. Wasn't revealing. It is said by virtually every politician which why they publish this shit so idiots like you blame it. You're actually on their side.

>>510176977
Kys lil tryhard faggot

>>510177726
unfortunately, yes. also never tell migas that the inflation under biden was a result of trump's covid moneyprinting (the primary reason for covid was a bank bailout, the vaccine and social experimentation was just icing on the cake)

>>510173018
>Tariffs work
Yep.
>>510173073
Billionaires who pay them - Rockefellers, Buffet, Waltons (Walmart / Chinamart) , Bezos (Amazon, another chinamart),
etc.
Are all screaming in the media, but they are paying tarrifs and not raising consnumer prices.

>consumer prices of chinese trinkets aren't going up

>>510178004
>100% cap
Just kill yourself you fucking nigger

>>510178004
are you advocating zimbabwe economic theory (they call it modern monetary theory in the US)

>>510172736 (OP)
This monopoly money bullshit is fake pretend why do kikes want us to care about it so much? When it all collapses people are just gonna go back to bartering.

>>510172736 (OP)
Now they can afford immigrant housing, nigger gibs and child mutilation. Yay!

>>510172736 (OP)
Great, all that money can go into the pockets of Jews, corrupt government officials and non-Whites.

>>510176992
i don't know how it works in america, but generally a budget is an amount of money set aside for a certain period, usually a fiscal year.

so any additions other than already planned inputs are indeed surplus, to be distributed via later government decisions

it has nothing to do with debt, tho of course it doesn't represent a health of an economy in any way

Wow. Use fake numbers and cook the books, make a surplus. All us Americans surely believe trump

>>510175604
>benefited from calendar adjustments
the june jobs report would've come in half of what was expected if it wasn't for the employment growth in local government, education category.
What fucking schools are hiring ~70.000 in june you might ask?
Easy, it's a "seasonal adjustment".
How the fuck is education getting "seasonally adjusted" upwards in june of all months? No more questions goyim. The jobs report list never existed, move on.

>>510178012
It's just impossible to talk with them about anything abstract or contingent on information that's more than two weeks old. It's the only possible explanation for trump's victory in 2024 -- that he did the lion's share of the economic damage in 2020 and was able to put it on Biden is one of the wildest things to ever happen in American politics, honestly. It's right up there with Trump killing the bipartisan border bill in early 2024 so he could run on the issue. We've just become so infinitely lazy.

>>510178625
>but TECHNICALLY
technically you're a faggot retard trying to jewsplain how this is a good thing even though the country is bankrupt

>>510172736 (OP)
$27B available for gibs?

>>510173870
Stupid retard they just passed a 3 trillion deficit incurring bill since this is offset by the cut taxes of the heavily wealthy.

>>510172736 (OP)
>Surplus
Jewish headlines when it all gets immediately spent on globohomo and Israel

>>510176977
poor people like you are so cringe

>>510178855
i wrote this about the realistic approach to finding a political future, there has to be some way for people who actually read to start getting together

>>510176977
Nice thesis retard, now go cry yourself to sleep over the fact you'll never procreate.

>>510172736 (OP)
>We increased revenue by raising taxes.
>Raising taxes works.
Imagine being a magatard.

>>510173870
can we stop kicking the can down the road and stop this jewish nonsense instead please

>>510179963
Don't worry though, we're getting $12,500 tax-free overtime hours (at the end of the year when you settle up with the government)

>>510179996
The jewish nonsense will continue.

>>510172736 (OP)
just one more thing that president trump has in common with president clinton now

>>510179963
did they really raise taxes? taxes feel the same to me

does this even factor in what happens when americans lose healthcare and swarm ERs like illegals

>>510180243
Tariffs are taxes, retard.

Libcucks BTFO

>>510172736 (OP)
Great send it to Israel

>>510180090
no

>>510172736 (OP)
>surplus
>36 trillion dollar deficit

>>510172736 (OP)
In Canada half of the year is already over and we still don't have a budget months after the election...
Money literally grows out of thin air, just put more air in a bucket and pay with it ffs
t. typical canadian

>>510176977
So the debt owed isn't real? Are you retarded? Do you even know where the debt comes from?