Thread 510341949

Are the rising costs of transportation gonna screw the car reliant Amerifat in the near future?

>>510341949 (OP)
Canada isn't any better bro

>>510342022
Our light rail is better (in cities)
But gas is more expensive

>>510341949 (OP)
If anything it will make certain parts of America better. If shitskins can't cheaply move around or be resupplied then the demographic health of a region can only improve.

>>510341949 (OP)
>cheaper per mile
>2x-8x the speed
>safer per mile
When are europoors going to give up their autism toys and join us in the modern age?

>>510342439
Trains are faster in the 300 mile range (due to boarding times, security checks, and train stations are often in the middle of the city whilst the airport is not). It's a much more common occurrence that you will be going to the next town over or the town after that, instead of the other side of the continent. If you are going to the other side of the continent there's obviously airports.

>>510342439
>cheaper per mile
Depends on the distance. Rail is cheaper under ~500km. Planes rely on gas, which is only getting more expensive.
>2x-8x the speed
Rail is faster under ~500km
>safer per mile
No lmao. Ever heard of Boeing?

>>510342772
>Trains are faster in the 300 mile range
So the range where you might as well drive?

>>510342439
Cope harder. You are just incapable of building trains because you are inferior.

>>510342439
Europe already fly's more than the USA

retard

bot thread, anyone bumping this thread is newfag cancer with shit colored skin

>>510343074
>Europe already fly's more than the USA
Europe's population is?

>>510342969
no because driving is slower (in civilized society where trains are moving at an acceptable speed)
That's not even taking into account the comfort of riding a train, where you can walk around and stretch your legs as much as you want, go to the toilet, go to the restaurant car. or sit at your seat doing work or whatever.
Car range is 100 miles maximum.
Even then if there IS a train connection it's always the better option.

>>510343313
>Car range is 100 miles maximum.
The fuck out of here. People drive from NYC to Boston all the time. And it takes as long as the train.

>>510343313
The average highway speed in the USA is 65 mpg (105 kph). The range for highway driving is 55-95 mph (89-153 kph). Almost everyone in the USA that isn't a retard and owns a car drives a 300-600 miles one way trip. At average USA gasoline prices, a roughly 40 highway mpg vehicle (almost all Japanese) can drive from coastal Oregon to coastal NC for about $180.

>>510343414
yes because america is a failed state with non-functioning public transport. Even when it does exist it's poorly implemented and falling apart due to decades of poor funding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yLzfNTrULg
Spain (poorfag central) BTFOs america.

>>510343638
*65 mph

>>510343646
>yes because america is a failed state with non-functioning public transport.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avelia_Liberty

>>510343646
Spain is a fraction of the size, you fucking idiot. It’s like your eurofuck education didn’t teach you about scale. Texas by itself covers most of your continent, bitch nigger

>>510343646
Public transport is being used by narcs and hobos. Absolutely disgusting type of transportation.

tfw the German monthly rail pass is 50 euros

>>510343770
This isn't true. Europe is roughly 14 times as big as Texas.

>>510343799
I mean then it's actually a good deal. But I'm guessing that price is subsidized.

>>510343839
Its an amazing deal. My shit city has 2 rail lines and its monthly pass is 120$

>>510343646
It snows in the North East, show me high speed rail in Finland.

>>510341949 (OP)
You have to understand, the US economy relies on selling everyone an overpriced truck on credit every few years and also selling them all the fuel it drinks a gallon of every 10 miles. Americans are happy to use their great wealth to contribute to GM and Exxon’s profits instead of using trains that would cost a fraction of the price.

>>510343799
>German monthly rail pass is 50 euros
it's 58€ now :(

they took the one good thing in the last few years for the ordinary man and made it more expensive
kinda angry about it
at least it still exists

>>510343839
>I mean then it's actually a good deal. But I'm guessing that price is subsidized.
it is
but less than you think
it's like ~3billion€ per year to keep that thing going

and remember streets are subsidized, trains are subsidized, internet is subsidized, gas / water pipes are subsidized
every major infrastructure is subsidized
that's like the one serious task a government should do well and where it actually makes sense to use taxes for

shit cope
>>510344000

>>510343638
>Almost everyone in the USA that isn't a retard and owns a car drives a 300-600 miles one way trip
or you could just take a train
>drive from coastal Oregon to coastal NC
when do you need to do that? I would fly in this case.
>>510343715
watch the video. It's a barely functioning line, at least they are trying to do something about it, but I don't think it will go anywhere. Especially with orange man cutting funding left an right.
>>510343770
did you even look at the image?
>>510343779
It's dead silent on trains 80% of the time I use it. No nistis or anything.
>>510344000
we don't have a single high speed rail line because we are poor. but the Main line from Oulu to Helsinki (sort of the backbone of the rail infrastructure) covers a 600km (370 mile) distance in 5 and a half hours (about 2 hours faster than driving). All year round. There's also a train from Oulu to Rovaniemi which is on the polar circle, also year round.

>>510344293
>streets are subsidized
Most roads are funded entirely by road user charges.

>>510343157
Europe 744 million, EU 450 million.
You could've of course just googled it you cretin

>>510341949 (OP)
china and russia are shitholes and its always a leaf flag

>>510343638
>can drive from coastal Oregon to coastal NC for about $180.

Cost of a car:
>the car
>registration fees
>insurance
>gas
>maintenance & repairs
>parking
>tolls
I can assure you this is more than 180$

>>510344696
Do you think that factors into why they may fly more than the Americans?

Trains = Feminine
Cars = Masculine

>>510341949 (OP)
Can we get the same meme, but with the maps to scale?

>>510344766
>what is per capita
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?

>>510344827
>what is per capita
No Americans fly more per capita.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/passenger-air-traffic-by-country

>>510344570
>Most roads are funded entirely by road user charges.
like where?
other than a few bridges or popular highways
most roads can never sustain themselves by usage only

that's by design
because a country usually gets that back indirectly
through higher taxes because people and companies are more productive with good infrastructure
just like with the Deutschlandticket

and with numbers for Germany roads
>~25billion€ earnings per year
>on taxes (gasoline / cars etc), tolls and resident fees
>~80billion€ investments per year
>from federal and state governments into road infrastructure
that's 55billion€ taxes spend yearly without immediate return (only indirect, which is harder to measure)

>>510344975
>like where?
Like the majority of countries? You pay tax on fuel and vehicles. Those are considered road user charges.

>>510345035
>Like the majority of countries? You pay tax on fuel and vehicles. Those are considered road user charges.
maybe read my fucking answer?

in the majority of countries those are NOT enough to cover the total cost of roads
probably in all countries as I don't know a single one where road user charges cover the TOTAL road investments

>>510345452
>in the majority of countries those are NOT enough to cover the total cost of roads
Yeah I thought they did turns out they stopped being self funded around the 80's in the US and 2000's here.

Yeah so nevermind that argument.