Why are men averse to doing anything to attract a woman?

This is political since it relates to the fertility problem.

>>510448839 (OP)
Dancing is gay af

>>510448839 (OP)
Women don't deserve effort anymore and men don't actually enjoy dancing.

Dancing is gay as fuck.

>>510448839 (OP)
Having money beats dancing
Money beats everything

>>510448839 (OP)
Times have changed.

>>510448912
>>510448922
Women are gay, they like penises

>>510448943
No. Plenty of women are fucking bums while using rich men to pay for it.

>>510448839 (OP)
it's always what a man can do for a woman. we don't care anymore

Modern dancing is so niggerfied that it’s debasing. Only a retarded whore would dance in Current Year.

>>510448839 (OP)
>Dancing
How out of touch do you have to be to think that's still a thing? Go to a club or anywhere else they put music on. There's either people standing still, jumping up and down, or grinding on each other. "Dancing" doesn't exist.

>>510448839 (OP)
>dancing
Women don't dance anymore. They do baboon mating rituals and try to pass it off as "dancing".

>>510448839 (OP)
No reason to dance anymore.
Also no reason to try and attract women anymore

>>510448839 (OP)
>>510448912
>>510448945
>>510449100

if you were a bad dancer or tried to get a girl to dance with you and she said no, then nobody saw it but the drunk people at the bar.
if you are a bad dancer today or put moves on a woman and creep her out, your face is getting plastered all over tiktok, instagram and twitter for being loser creep who should never talk to to women.

why would men even try now?

Doing anything's an ick now, it's not a net benefit. Women are too neurotic for dancing and other dynamic socializing like that. It requires some grace.

>>510448839 (OP)
Buy an ad faggot

>>510448839 (OP)
glownigger narrative. fertility is 100% on women, they make the decision not to have kids.

Why is it on men to do something. Be like lions. The male just sits there looking proud, and the females run around doing all the work.

If you don't do it, they'll do it. If you do it, they'll feel superior and they dry up. That's generally how it works. Depraved females, but I repeat myself.

Most men are pussies who take themselves too seriously and women don’t like men with no personality or range, of which there is an abundance.

>>510448839 (OP)
>>510449341
only way men would be responsible for fertility would be if state ordered men to rape women, then men who do not rape are responsible for fertility

>>510448839 (OP)
The shepard shuffle can be done without looking to big of an idiot.

>>510448839 (OP)
>This is political since it relates to the fertility problem

>>510448839 (OP)
white boys realized that blacks were better at it in every way
whites destroyed disco because the disco clubs were integrated, the music was made by black people, and the best dancers were black
plus chicks were getting a taste of bbc at the disco clubs and white boys didn't like that either

notice how peckerwood crackers like to hate any dance that isn't ballet or riverdancing. white people hate what other races do better than them.

>>510448839 (OP)
well I know one group of people who never stopped dancing, especially after 9-11

>>510450566
palestinians?

>>510449251
Honestly this.
>>510448839 (OP)
Dancing is fun but you need to actually go to an actual dance club that does shit like ballroom, tango, or salsa (also for dancelets tango is easier for tall people who do leg day, salsa is easier for short people who are light on their feet) and find a chick who's actually into legit dancing. Dancers are great lays and good GFs.
If I ever have any red pills for anyone here about dating it's that finding a good mate in modern society ALWAYS involves going to more obscure places and involves more niche interests or sub-groups. Also finding a GF or wife is much easier if you're already with someone, just broke up with someone, or pretend to be in either of those 2 categories.

>>510448839 (OP)
Risk to reward is too great.
>dance badly one evening in the 90s
>its forgotten
>dance badly now
>its publicly shamed and if its bad enough goes viral
The juice isnt worth the squeeze.

>>510448912

It's a mating ritual designed for people to show they have rhytm and know how to use their body, especially their hips. Men who are too wooden and incompetent to do so were always known to be bad at fucking, only in the past people weren't so blunt about it

There is a reason why Brits, Germans etc. were stereotyped as being bad "lovers" while Spaniards, Italians etc. were "passionate in bed" etc.

A.k.a even your grandmas knew that men who are dirty, have a sense of rhytm and muscles / stamina to use their hips had were fuckbeasts but were too polite to say it like that

>one post by this ID

>>510453526
What if I have great agility and strength but just think it looks like something faggots do?

>>510448912
This

>>510448839 (OP)
Dancing is very homosexual.

>>510448839 (OP)
They just say your dance is good or bad based on whether they like you or not. It has nothing to do with how good of a dancer you are.

>>510450276
Whites are pussy ass faggots. They should all OD on heroin like the penultimate white singe Kurt Cobain. White people think a vocal fry and strumming the same guitar chords while they stand still is music.

>>510449251
Can't argue with this. Men used to be "allowed" to try, and if they failed it was just a learning experience. Now if a man fails it can haunt him for years all because some stupid bitch thought it would be fun to hurt him over giving her the ick.

Don't jump through hoops, guys. If a girl shows interest in you first then go for it.

>>510448839 (OP)
>women don't care whether or not you can dance if you're already attractive to them as a generality
>going out dancing (aka the club/bar) is a swiftly dying scene
>watching ugly men get ridiculed for having fun (sometimes dancing is their fun) makes other men hesitant to want to subject themselves to that same possible ridicule
>most places for dance are swarmed with trailer trash, niggers, and other unfavorables/aberrants
>don't get to pick the music, can't get into the vibe, hot and smelly

Personally, I just take my bitch to terraces overlooking the ocean here on the west coast. Crank up my car stereo, and slow dance with her. Sometimes I'll bust a jig here and there, but really I just couldn't give two fucks about dancing, I don't enjoy it.

>>510448839 (OP)
Men realized the brutal Pareto distribution truth, that it was never about what men did or said or anything like that. It's simply whether or not you're lucky enough to be perceived by the woman as part of the top 20%.

If you are then none of that shit matters. She will fuck you regardless. You can be homeless or a convicted rapist. It simply doesn't matter.
And if you aren't then nothing you will do or say will change that. You can dance, recite French 18th century poems or whatever shit they claim to be of importance when it comes to men. It simply doesn't matter.

Trying to attract a woman is pointless. She either is attracted or isn't. And she decides that unconsciously in about 0.35 seconds after seeing you. There is zero reason to say anything beyond "wanna fuck?", zero reason to put in any effort whatsoever. If you're lucky these two words are enough. If not then nothing is good enough.

>>510449251

I dance like an idiot and girls like it. Doesn't matter as long as you're just having fun.
Knowing moves is gay. Just make sure you're legitimately enjoying it and they'll like it.
And don't be ugly.

>>510448839 (OP)
Feels flamboyantly homosexual. I'd rather box or wrestle.

>>510454442
now imagine this in 2025

>>510448839 (OP)
TikTok (chink owned) and fortnite (chink owned) made dancing cringe. To zoomers, cringe is social jihadism.

>>510449178
Last time I went to tha club I basically dry humped some bitch for an hour and wondered why strip clubs are even a thing since I didn’t have to spend a dime

>>510448839 (OP)
There’s no point, because of social app fueled hypergamy whether you attract a woman or not has already been predetermined based on height, social status and physical attractiveness. No amount of flailing around on the dancefloor will change a woman’s mind.

>>510454342
>>going out dancing (aka the club/bar) is a swiftly dying scene
Thank God, it was always so fake anyway. The literal only reason to go anymore is if there's music you want to hear. Making connections happens throughout daily life anyway, no need for "da club".

>>510448839 (OP)
Why would any sans man waste their valuable time putting effort into attracting some used up and probably drug addicted roastoid?
The simple fact is the overall quality of women has plummeted even in just the last 20 years.

We going to have an article eventually on how women can't cook anymore?

>>510448839 (OP)

I was once attracted to western women, in like 1999-2010, but now they look like an amalgam of penis and semen stuffed a bag made out of skin. Women have become masculine and they aren't attractive. They are doing squats at the gym and twerking, they aren't suitable mothers.

>>510455371
Yeah but it will say „and why it is a good thing!” because it gives jobs to doordashers from 3rd world countries.

>>510448839 (OP)

>>510455371
The trufax is, cooking(competently) was always a man's game

>>510448839 (OP)
Umm I'm autistic

Yep
Dance is just code for masturbating

>>510448839 (OP)
>why did men stop dancing
I wanted to as a kid, but there was no money for lessons, and no one who would practice with me. Girls can practice with their friends or an older sister. Guys don’t really have that and it’s gay af to roll up to a bro to ask him to practice dancing with you.

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>>510448912
>Dancing is gay af
Holy cope

Dancing waltz properly involves grinding your hip into her hip. Turn in about 45 degrees and it's missionary position. If women really didn't want it, they would never allow that dance.

"Dirty dancing" is at best a waltz, more flash but less enjoyable grinding.

>>510448943
wrong, your looks matter the most, money = red-blue/pill cope

>>510448839 (OP)
dancing is gay

>>510448915
I actually enjoy dancing but women don't deserve the effort anymore.

>>510457509
Cope >>510456240

>>510453716

> What if I own a porche but don't drive it around town?

Well I guess you just end up being less attractive to women than you would be otherwise

Also, dancing is one of the most profoundly human behaviors out there, seen in literally every culture around the world. If you can't do it because you obsess over homosexuality the problem is probably on your end

>>510448839 (OP)

bitches need to concern themselves with: why aren't the dishes done? Why isn't the house clean? Why isn't the fridge restocked? A hell of a lot more than they need to be worrying about what men are doing.

>>510457559
You imply being a faggy dancer is the only way to show anything. You're either gay, a nigger, or a gay nigger

>>510448839 (OP)
Why did women stop cooking, sewing and cleaning?

>>510448839 (OP)
>strategy for attracting women
That's literally misogyny now. Viewing women as "prizes" to be "won" etc. Women started shaming men for this, so men stopped dancing.

>>510456240
That's not only gay, but also a humiliation ritual, a symbolic of prostration before the golden vagina. Reducing yourself to doing the sexual version of air guitar in order to peacock your feathers to titillate filthy sluts, like the simp slave you are.

>>510448839 (OP)
Why are women adverse to anything to do with men?
>>510449341
This. I am willing they are not.

>>510456067
Why didn't you just ask the girls to dance?

>>510448839 (OP)
>>510448912
This, it's a feminine humiliation ritual.

>oh uhhhhhh please look at me, babe look at how I shuffle my arms and wiggle my hips just like a tiny kpop boy or 12 year old just bieber

Unless of course you're under 6 feet, then it's pretty much your only way to attract girls, be some zesty reggaeton dancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgfIsrK5vYE

Women are property. Men shouldn't have to do anything to attract a woman, since the woman's father should tell her who she is going to marry.

>he cant dance
The absolute state of /pol/cels. My offer still stands: if you provide me with a minimum of 20 minutes of dancing I'll hang up my gimmick. I have yet to receive a submission.

>>510457807
>noooo attractive woman please don't literally hump me and show off how into me you are AHHHHH IM GOING INSANE this is a humiliation ritual

>>510453526
Sounds like something a monkey would say

The thread was nice while it lasted.

>>510448912
>>510448922
Correct
>>510456240
That man is debasing and humiliating himself.

>>510448943
Wrong. Looks and youth beats money every time. The entire point of having money beyond what is necessary to put food on the table etc is to compensate for not having looks and youth. Having looks => women share exciting formative experiences with you in youth when you can actually enjoy it and when it will completely change your outlook on life. Having money => desensitized 30+ year old women "settle" for a loveless marriage with you after you are already jaded and have lost the "spark". If a new medical procedure was invented that allowed anyone to have the body of a 20 year old gigachad but it cost a billion dollars, literally every single billionaire would get it, and this proves how valuable looks are. If people would be willing to pay billions of dollars to have the perfect body then having the perfect body is worth more than a million dollars.

>>510457557
>>510457954
You are the absolute lowest form of life on the planet

>>510458198
At least I'm not a virgin like you

>>510457559
>cold Serbian autist thinks dancing is "profoundly human"
>>510457807
>literal Brazilian thinks it's garbage
This is the Macaco's area of expertise, he knows better than some wooden chainsmoking Turko-Russian golem

>>510448912
fpbp /thread

>>510458078
Just don’t respond to it
>>510457719
The problem is that men are not allowed to fail in a somewhat harmless way. In 200X an awkward approach would be laughed off and he learns a valuable lesson. In 202X an awkward approach ends with him becoming a viral instatoksnap if he’s lucky and jail time if he’s not. Who the fuck is risking that aside from niggers who cannot into consequences?

>>510448839 (OP)
Men stopped making the effort because women today are insufferable faggots

>>510448839 (OP)
Men don't want to be dancing clowns for women just to get absolute nothing while the guy who was born good looking doesn't have to do any bullshit
animals have an instinctual sense of fairness and will get stressed if they sense unfair treatment

>>510454015
That was gay. You're just appealing to an earlier version of feminism (female mate choice). It's like saying that 90s were the ideal era of race relations.

>>510449090
Because women are weak.

>>510458078
Its a shit thread because nobody here can dance.

>>510458062

Boy do I have news for you

>>510454646
Public clowning to attract a woman's attention. Even gayer and more debasing than trying to be "good" at dancing.

>>510458453
I wish it were that simple, I really do.

>>510448839 (OP)
Catch me going to the ballroom [that doesn't operate] to dance at the ball [that doesn't happen] to attract the young women [who aren't there because they don't go outside] by asking them to dance [which they don't know how to do] and dancing with them [which will be filmed and posted online] in order to be in a relationship [where I do all the effort to make it work] which will hopefully [very unlikely] lead to something long term [and exclusive if I'm lucky] such as marriage [which statistically ends with me losing the shirt on my back ]

>>510453961
The more racist you get the more you dip your toes into being a nig. Don't do that.

I’ve always hated dancing but would slow dance with my gf at weddings or whatever.

My problem, and the problem most young men have no I guess, is they either lack the confidence in their appearance to let loose and dance or they take themselves too seriously. Everyone is either deeply self conscious or thinks they’re Bruce Wayne.

>>510458553
My ancestors weren't monkeys and I'm not an ape.

>>510448839 (OP)
>Dance, slave! Entertain me now!
nah

>>510458594
It really is. Trolls and glowniggers stop doing the annoying thing if they don’t get the engagement they’re looking for, it’s just a matter of telling the newfags to not take the bait

>>510457719
>That's literally misogyny now.
In your wet dreams, maybe. Who in this world even cares what you sad little eunuchs from /pol/ declare to be "literally misogyny now"? Reddit? No, not even Reddit cares. Go kill yourself.

>>510453526
>Men who are too wooden and incompetent to do so were always known to be bad at fucking
lol that was always a gay fallacy. just because i dont want to prance around like a fag doesn't mean i can't fuck

>>510458281
Let's see your tits hun

>>510448839 (OP)
The consequences of fucking up and being cringe are now life-ruining because the woman internet will hunt you down.

Accepting that you might be cringe when flirting used to be an acceptable risk, now it's as dangerous as driving 120mph without a seatbelt.

>>510448839 (OP)
Men are the millennials of gender, we’re forever being blamed for our normal reactions to a fucked, rigged society

>why aren't men aren't participating in humiliating rituals anymore and what can we do about it

>>510448839 (OP)
The only way to increase birth rates is to ban women from higher education. Talking about men in any way when it comes to this problem is just a waste of breath.

>>510448922
The problem, is less that dancing is gay, and more that dancing has been captured by the gays, and normal men don't want to inadvertently court homosexual attention.

>>510448912
>>510448922
being unwilling to dance indicates to everyone that you're insecure and anxious

>>510458904
Yeah it’s mostly this. Iv had girls record me before but luckily it was nothing that would hurt my self esteem. The idea of looking dumb having it distributed to all the girls you hang around is really spooky

>>510449251
Yep. Public schools made "autist" types afraid to socialize because they are trapped in the same environment with the same people for what feels like their entire life, and this means any embarrassment that results from "leaning" to socialize is remembered by everyone for what seems like forever. When camera phones started appearing this fear of socializing started spreading to normal people too, again because cameras create the risk that any inexperience-induced embarrassment will be recorded and haunt you forever.
>>510454015
>Can't argue with this. Men used to be "allowed" to try, and if they failed it was just a learning experience.
This is a huge part of why sites like 4chan became big imo. The anonymous internet allowed autist types to "learn" to socialize without the risk of permanent embarrassment. If you said something cringe then people would just call you gay and everything would be forgotten once the thread dies. I couldn't make smalltalk etc at all before I got internet access, but since then I've transformed from social retard into someone with lots of friends who is generally perceived as charismatic despite being an ugly goblin etc, and I feel like I owe it all to online anonymity.

>>510458328
Hrrrrm. I wonder what Brazilians and Americans have in common other than demographics... Oh right, it's that their idea of "dancing" is randomly gyrating while shaking their asses or humping the air.

>>510448839 (OP)
If I tried dancing to attract a woman I'd be called toxic.

>>510455537
The death of emo/scene girls and the negrification of goth girls has been a disaster for the human race.

>>510458904
That's not the reason people are single.

>>510458958
>normal reactions to a fucked, rigged society
I wouldn't call this normal

>>510448839 (OP)
>Why are men averse to doing anything to attract a woman?
It's gay and gives them the ick. A man shouldn't have to do anything to attract the woman. He should just have aura by default. If he has to try, then he's not worthy.

>>510448839 (OP)
Genx we didn't dance it was for poofs.

>>510448839 (OP)
>they’re still blaming men for checking out of a society that hates us

>>510448912
/Thread

>>510459047
>The only way to increase birth rates is to ban women from higher education.
Being educated in math/physics/etc makes women more attractive imo. It's all the humanities bullshit that needs to be scrapped.

>>510459229
It's a very important reason keeping single people single.

>>510450276

Your colour is aposematic colouration. It is literally a warning sign for white people.

>>510459360
Nobody hates anyone. Come on, now. Be serious and not a victim.

>>510448839 (OP)
Who the hell thinks "dancing" is a skill apart from some obscure 1950s choreography?

>>510450276
>whites destroyed disco because the disco clubs were integrated,
Disco was always fag music in the United States, and disco was only destroyed in the United States. Electronic dance music continued to be the dominant form of popular music in Europe well into the modern era.

It's not like the US darkies kept dancing disco anyway either, clearly they thought it was fag music too.

Dancing comes naturally and it is where the ripe slappers are, yes.
Nobody stopped. You are a pedophile. But people don’t go out as much because your masters (Satanists) spoil everything on purpose. And you’re a disgusting turd.

>>510458797
I really wish it were that simple, I really do.

>>510458756

You're a boring yank retard and I have no desire to interact with you

>>510448912
worse, it's gay niggardly, since "dance" implicitly mostly refers to negrified dances today

>>510457706
And by your words you outright admit to having hang-ups over the dumbest shit. Touch grass for once in your fucking life.

>>510459380
It's not even the content of the studies that's the problem. It's the very fact that women will be in their mid twenties by the time they're done studying, assuming they're fast about it. But it's not at all unusual for doctoral students to be in their thirties. If that's when you even begin considering starting a family, it might already be too late. Evolutionary, women should have their first child by the time they're 16 or 17.

>>510448912
Fpbp.

Dancing is for faggots. If you didn't want this association to form, you should have kept fags out from public life. For the past 20 fucking years if not more, it has become almost certain that if you see a dude that likes to dance on tv etc, he's a fag. Heterosexual men do not want to associate themselves with hobbies that might paint them as being gay, same shit happened with theater etc.

>>510459503
Dancing is as natural as talking
If you don't spontaneously dance with good music I don't know what's wrong with you

>>510448839 (OP)
I had a weird experience last week
>go to bar with gf
>small crafty beery type of place
>few regulars all seem to know eachother
>start talking with guy sat at bar and woman behind bar
>turns out he's controlling the music, connected to the sound system with his phone
>start talking about music
>he's taking requests
>we both have a mutual love of yacht rock
>end up like 6 or 7 dudes dancing to Michael McDonald and Bobby Caldwell while all of our girlfriends/wives were looking on embarrassed
I want to go back. It was awesome

>>510448945
Come gather around feminist, where ever you roam.

>man up; get divorce raped

>>510450276
Dancing looks stupid when niggers do it, too. You coons just get a bit more leeway because nobody expects better from you, like monkeys getting coins tossed at them when they dance to gypsy music

>>510448839 (OP)
I don't like dancing but I can see how it can be an advantage to picking up women. You don't need to be good, just average and not an embarrassment. The quality of women you can "pick up" might be lacking though.

>>510448839 (OP)
>Why aren't men doing this?
>Why aren't men doing that?
>How can we blame the entire world's faults on young men?
HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THE GOOD, SINGLE YOUNG WOMEN YOU NIGGERFAGGOTTURBOKIKES?

>>510459380
>makes women more attractive

The problem isn't men not being attracted to women retard.

>>510448839 (OP)
I'm 6'3" and jacked and whenever women twirl their hair at me or say hi I can't even pretend to hide my disgust

If she's not wearing a burka she's a whore and even then beatings are apparently necessary

>>510455537
I don't get the point of AI fake relationships with a bot. The most annoying part of being in a relationship is talking over the phone/texting. Talking is formality to get the good part

>>510448839 (OP)
Men have stopped putting effort into impressing women because women have stopped putting effort into being women.

>>510459119
Based ultra charismatic goblin
I'm the same

>>510456240
Repulsive nigger behavior.

>>510450276
The best dancers were black and gay, so the straight blacks went off to make 2 step and drum n bass, and then the autistic whites followed and made breakcore and idm

>>510459660
Like what? Fortnite emotes or black hokey-pokies from the late 2000s?

>>510448839 (OP)
this is from a time when you met your partner at the local dance. this was how my parents met and how my grandparents met.

this died long before the 80s/90s.

in general young generations will avoid anything that could be recorded with a phone, that includes drinking alcohol and dancing.

>>510460024
No one cares, you fucking blogposting faggot

>>510460239
Be the change you wanna see in the world. We need more Fred Astaires

>>510448839 (OP)
What are women doing?

>go to dance floor
>women leave

Have you guys been out lately? It funny how literally trembling terrified women are of white men. Niggers are democrats’ Jesus so they don’t see it

fuck i posted in a namefag thread on accident. let the thread die

>>510460279
Everyone gotta be on their best behavior at all times. This is the accountability generation.

>>510460348
I just want brostep to come back.

>>510460405
If you're talking to me then you're confused. Mentally and possibly sexually. Into the pocket universe you go.

>>510459756
>Michael McDonald
Good singer but though.

>>510459673
Not having children while studying is a weird western thing though. It was reasonably common for african/asian students to marry and start having kids in college. It isn't college that keeps whites from having kids, it's the culture of
>20s is for whoring around and having fun
>30s is when you grow up and start looking for serious relationships

>>510460459
I have to say it was a very strange time musically.

>>510460482
yes, make everything about you, you are so awesome, truly. king of the world, king of the thread

>>510448839 (OP)
Because it only works for Chad. If you're not a Chad, but you are performing a Chad-activity, then you turn yourself into a real-life comic-relief character.

>>510460285
Silence Mongolian slut

>>510460429
Can you imagine being young and not being able to get drunk, or have a punch up after the pub, do silly stuff.
They are either embarrassingly tedious little scrotes or what?

the number of zoomers here saying dancing is gay means if you do learn to dance you could snag a zoomette pretty easy because all girls love dancing

>>510453526

>>510460578
Dont get mad at me because I turned you down for some ERP nonsense in the past. Truly bizzare behavior.

>>510460671
Its a test to hold ones liquor.

>>510448839 (OP)
>why are m-*ACK*

>>510448839 (OP)
>woman opinion
Who cares.
Enjoy your taxes, wagewhores.

>>510460683
Women do the same thing on their side to discourage activities like dancing which might make girls that work harder from appearing more attractive than them, and very few young women go out anyway. On the other hand, yeah in some places there are more women dancing than men, and you might score big with a woman that didn't get dragged down into the jewish crab bucket.

>>510448839 (OP)
men do plenty of things to attract women, women nowadays are so stuck up that they treat normal dudes like shit for no reason. fuck them I got mine, if they want men to come to them they should be more approachable

>>510459503
Zaratustra, as he would never worship a God who cannot dance.
"Also Spracht Zaratustra" Frederick Nietzsche

The woman are fat.
Fat women are not fun to dance with.
I am not jacked, and can't lift up a 200 lb whale shaped like a tire.
Looking for one that I can practice proper lifts with.
Tall and slender and I can dip her perfectly.
Fats can't even lean backwards.

>>510448839 (OP)
Dancing never had anything to do with dancing. Ooo lookie the club whore is grinding on my lap. Much dance many rhythm

>>510460517
Lack of seriousness and loyalty is a big problem, but raising kids while studying and probably also working is way too much shit to do for the average western woman, probably even for a lot of men. The kids would end up having ipads for parents. We don't have single income family countries anymore.

>>510448839 (OP)
>dancing has been reduced to sexual grinding
>exposure of any failed attempt like the linebacker video we've seen here already
I had a woman ask if I liked dancing and I said maybe more formal dancing and she immediately had a look of disgust.

I got fit. Learned to dance. Had women hitting on me. But this was couples dancing.

Because women dance for no reason nowadays for tiktok. It's part of their identity.

>>510448839 (OP)
not interested in women with a track record

>>510461191
I've seen some fat tit chonkers dance well, but maybe that's on the skinny side for american women now. No one was trying to lift them like the skinny dancers though, that's for sure.

>>510448839 (OP)
When they stop using it to convert their bodies into data to enter fantasy worlds in overheated Flint servers then maybe they will prefer women

>>510461319
>Ooo lookie the club whore is grinding on my lap
Crazy that's the first thing you think about when you hear dancing. Ain't got any rhythm eh? Must suck

>>510458634
Well crafted post. I think men have weapons in this war too, but things are indeed fucked up.

A good majority of men if not a good majority of humans in general are followers and seek validation from whichever group they're apart of. Plenty of boys grow up wanting this validation from his society and he gets it mainly through other men such as peers or fathers, especially so in western culture where a man is the bread winner. The men at the top put out these false social rules for other lesser men to follow and it perpetuates this cycle. But when these needs are unable to be met, it creates a massive insecurity in these boys who soon become men that still carry the same burden.

If we had droves of men doing things women actually want instead of circle jerking themselevs with fancy cars, suits and cigars, our society would massively shift, no longer having men at the top. Weather or not thats a positive is up to debate, but we're almost seeing this now. Whoever is pulling the strings of incel and red pill manosphere communities radicalize and ostracize men from any source of normalcy such as friends and family, perpetuating a deadly cycle of isolation from once a joyful boy to a radical angry man, but deep down is still that insecure boy who never learned find love in himself, and these vile filled communities keep the carrot on a stick in front of him, forever seeking validation from others, man or woman. But never in himself, creating another sheep for another herd, another pawn in some else's game, but never creating a content individual who is happy to be a human being.

>>510448839 (OP)

Why the actual fuck are women so afraid of being asked out nowadays? I've never see it happen in my entire life pretty much. It's not even like approaching them in a gym, or work where ofc it's not the time, but even at restaurants and cafe's that shit just doesn't happen and you can feel the immediate ick on their face, along with wanting you to fuck off asap while embarassing yourself.

It's like tinder (dating economy based on whoredom and chads) is the only way to meet women nowadays.

TKD

>>510448915
>Women don't deserve effort anymore and men don't actually enjoy dancing.
This. i hate dancing. I just throw them over my shoulder and carry them off to the bedroom.

>>510459108
but the crazy thing is, it doesn't make them think less of you. They know that a privilege men have is the ability to fail fail fail fail fail succeed and they're counted as a winner. You still have your power as long as you claim it.

That's less true for women.

Dancing is one of the most animalistic behaviors human beings can do. I will not be doing that thanks, especially not for some dumb broad who is impressed I know how to wiggle around like an ape enough to take my seed.

>>510461324
>The kids would end up having ipads for parents. We don't have single income family countries anymore.
You need to have at least one parent home when the kids get back from school. That's the minimum. Not many families can manage this.

>>510459119
True.

>>510448839 (OP)
>strategy for attracting women
This is why. Most men are demoralized. Why bother trying? She isnt interested in you if you arent 6foot tall, dark, and handsome. Dont listen to her. She wants a wealthy Chads who is dancing because its fun and he wants to dance, not manlets learning to dance so they can impress her. She is imagining in her head, Chad showing up to her dance class- not you. She doesnt care how respectful to women you are, how nice you try to be. She doesnt care about flowers or shiny jewelry. She wants a good dicking and to have her arms around the tallest man in the room so she can be above other women in their faux whorearchy.

But here is the thing: those women dont deserve Chad. They dont even deserve you. They deserve nothing. No dance partner. They can come beg men to come bacm. They can dance for men instead.

>>510459104
Good thing nobody cares what normal faggots think. Fitting that the same people who desire the approval of others in the group also commit to chimpanzee tier mating rituals like dancing. Lower level life forms.

>>510459326
But then how does the woman know she has a chance? How does she know she wants it?

Your job is to give her those ideas, then let her do a bit of work. Women aren't normally thinking about this, or thinking at all as far as I can tell.

>>510448839 (OP)
This doesn’t relate to modern “dancing” like that freak Michael Jackson.

They used to square dance with the entire community. Nobody used to go
>hee hee
And lean at a 30 degree angle.

It was a moderate aerobics exercise and team building thing in its essence. The Irish still love doing it.

>>510448839 (OP)
Because only whores put out for guys they meet on a dance floor and the interests of most men have shifted towards creating a stabile family and having children. TL,DR: the majority of men are no longer interested in whores.

>>510450276
>white people hate what other races do better than them.

What like Crime?

>>510459673
College is a fine place to meet women. Especially now I suppose since it's mostly female. My engineering school was overwhelmingly male and the females were hideous so I was a monk in college, and that really sucked. I would not go thru the humiliation that dating there meant. But I met my wife in grad school.

>>510448839 (OP)
Fucking women only ever care about doing sexually suggestive stuff or stuff that lead to sex. There's literally no room in their tiny little brains for anything else.
Fucking shit, I'm going back to reading my Marcus Aurellias

>>510448943
You sound brown.

>>510448912
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>>510459682
>all these children and pretenders
What man would not be a dancer if he could? It's a great thing, the dance.
Only that man who has offered up himself entire to the blood of war, who has been to the floor of the pit—and seen horror in the round, and learned at last that it speaks to his inmost heart—only that man can dance.

>>510462217
If i wasn't a freak, i'd go study history. I love history and there might be some women to talk to too.

>>510462116
I don't get the point of square dancing. It's some kind of geometric pattern and if everyone does it just right, nobody crashes. How sexual!

Waltz is real dancing. Tango can be too. You touch the woman around the waist. It's almost a mating ritual. You know our great grandparents had sexual feelings too.

the pareto rule used to only apply to men rather than women, all of the xenoestrogens and birth control in our food and water has lowered the testosterone levels in men so much that they don't even try anymore

now the mid women that used to be able to get a guy at the drop of a hat are freaking out they can't get a guy at their own level after fucking chad for 15 years. they used to be able to get any middleclass beta simp to give them a house and kids but now that the redpill exists there are less betas overall and even less betas that have money out of the ones that remain.

this is actually a good thing from the perspective of eugenics because the top men will reproduce and the bottom % of men will reproduce and the huge middle group of useless normies won't.

the rich upper class won't keep the poor around for long, especially after the boomers die off.

>>510461752
>It's like tinder (dating economy based on whoredom and chads) is the only way to meet women nowadays.

yes the white gene pool is now being controlled by these apps, they just added a height filter and the algorithm itself pushes nonwhite men on white women but there are no other modifications to it. part of the "where are all the men at" is just white women bitching that there aren't any white chads in their tinder because the algorithm literally filters them out.

>>510462307
Why would I offer myself up entire to the blood of war? The goal is to make the other bastard offer himself up.

>>510448839 (OP)
I’m good at dancing and I’m married

>>510462374
I don’t think either of those are inherently sexual. I guess it’s just primitive dating but it’s not unusual for fathers to dance in these styles with their children etc a few centuries ago.

I guess it’s a non argument or debate. I just don’t get how OP doesn’t see the obvious as to why nobody does it now.

>dancing

>>510462217
>replying to post about college being a problem because women don't start families until their mid twenties
>College is a fine place to meet women
>anecdote of college not being a fine place to meet woman until being in a program where the women were in their mid twenties
The reality hurts even more when you say it like that, engiebro

>>510462537
uh she's just waiting on a nice man to ask her to go ballroom dancing, I'm sure

>>510448839 (OP)
Try talking to an average contemporary woman for a few minutes and you'll understand why

>>510448839 (OP)
>This is political since it relates to the fertility problem.
>1pbtid
Reported. Seasoned.
Ban be faggots

>>510448839 (OP)
Whats there to dance about bro? Dance to me is an expression the spirit is feeling free. I dance occasionally when my food comes out dope but thats more of a celebration.

>>510462318
Unironically think about that. There will be tons of women. Say some edgy things in class and they'll be competing for your attention.

I just danced last week.

>>510448912
Swing dance and waltz etc is based

>>510462494
Did you ever actually waltz? Or even look carefully at what happens when others waltz. It's a bit less sexual among the pros because it's not sexual and the woman is strong and doesn't need to be guided e.g. to spin, she can do it herself. But for real people, your job is to guide the woman with close contact.

>>510448839 (OP)
We don't dance anymore because women may say they want a guy to dance, but it actually gives them "the ick". What women really want is a guy that is socially enviable and someone they can use as a trophy to make other girl's jealous.
This usually involves a guy being rich.

>>510460517
>20s is for studying and careerbuilding
Is just as bad. Women are either whoring themselves out of or pricing themselves out of the dating market.
Educated well paid women dont want to marry anyone below them, so their hypergamy explodes.
Either they fucked a million dudes or they will only fuck millionares.
Womens education, womens liberation, is the problem because women dont care about men or the social contract. Men are upholding their half but women have negged on the deal. Majority of men disenfranchised, working for half pay(women entering workforce halved wages) and expected to take on even more burdens. Its a miracle its not all on fire already.
Feminism and civilization are incompatible because they are competing reproductive strategies. Feminism is a return to women all choosing the same strongest males, primitive animal kingdom cave harems. Civilization is a result of a deal between men to only take one wife, and not let women choose only Chad. The intended, desired result of feminist victory is civilizational collapse or invasion by stronger males.
TL;DR sufferage is a societal shittest and women desire to be oppressed by men again (see: all the handmaid tale fetish cospay at womens protests) despite what they say about masculinity being toxic.

>>510448839 (OP)
The best dancers were always gay men. A lot of the guys who would dance turned out the be gay but at the time were still closeted and their male friends accompanying them didn’t know this. Some guys do dance and of course slow dance but for the most part dancing is a female and homosexual activity that younger generations no longer care about. Dance clubs have existed forever and were popularized by the boomer and gen x generations but aside from the older millennials they started to decline and a lot of them have closed.

>>510456240
I'd feel like killing myself if this were me. Dancing with a woman shouldn't look this undignified.

>>510461843
Ummm sweaty, animals don’t dance. Humans are kinda dumb anyways. Humans like whip horses to make them dance they don’t want to do that bro

>>510448839 (OP)
we dont dance along the fire anymore
humanity has lost its meaning and purpose, outside of being cattle.