It's a shame it ended up like this. Too bad Trumpfags were too retarded to see the obvious.

>>510522206 (OP)
He took the entire GOP down with him. When he got elected in 2016 I remember telling people I thought he was a democrat plant. He was put in there by the democrats to take them down. And now you know why.

>>510522206 (OP)
Reminder: Epstein was a Mossad agent.

>>510522206 (OP)
>>510522282
You are both crossdressing faggots.

If you keep calling your political opponents pedophiles they are going to have no choice but to kill or imprison you.

There is no walking that insult back, there is no return to civility or ability to work with people who you have called a pedophile.

Either you win forever and for good, or they are probably going to become extremely vicious and do horrible things to you to defend themselves.

Nazi was laughably easy to brush off but pedophile is an actual insult. The results you are hoping for are submission, but it's a lot more likely it's going to blow up in your face.

Sorry but that's the truth. You have to give your opponents a way to bow out and save face while you get your way, but this situation you have created doesn't allow for that.

You might not believe me or understand what I am saying right now, but it will make sense soon.

>>510522206 (OP)
It was always pretty obvious that this was nothing more than leftist blackmail.

>>510522355
The 1st & 2nd rules of politics:
1) The jews always lie
2) The left always projects

>>510522206 (OP)
>Choice is liberals are right
>Or that Trump is a child molester

>Liberals are calling Trump a child molester
>Therefore if they aren't right, he isn't one

>>510522405
It was always pretty obvious that this was nothing more than Israeli blackmail.

>>510522327
Maga are the biggest bootlickers in history, no way they (you) will exterminate the Jews.
>More money, Mr Netanyahu? Of course sir.
>More bombs, Mr Netanyahu? Of course sir.
>Please don't leak the videotapes of me fucking children Mr Netanyahu.

>>510522355
>insult

it's a credible accusation

>>510522464
Both parties in DC are blackmailed by Mossad.

>>510522355
>you keep calling your political opponents pedophiles
Okay, but what do you do if they're actually pedophiles? Just pretend otherwise and let them keep raping children?

>>510522464
>This entire thing is just browns mad that Trump kurbstomped Iran

The solution is to fully declassify the entire Epstein blackmail op, and then the US will declare war against Israel in response.

>>510522439
>Liberals are calling
No, Trump is admitting to being one by protecting the Epstein files

>>510522519
The Democrat list is 10x longer.

Hopefully somebody will be a chad and leak it. But even then if it is leaked Trump and his cronies will probably say it’s fake.

>>510522567
>Your denial is proof of your guilt

>>510522206 (OP)
Ah yes the liberals who were "right" about the whole Epstein thing all along...

>>510522206 (OP)
Libs based all their accusations on the fact they didnt like him, or biased interpretations of debunked accusations and court documents. Now theres evidence against him (he was also on the Epstein flight logs) and they want to pretend that theyve claimed it all along.

Trump is baiting the left to focus on Epstein now because it's the way to free the US government from Israeli blackmail control.

>>510522282
Whats wrong with bringing down pedos?

>>510522206 (OP)
Shouldn't the one on the left be admit that nazis were right instead of liberals?

>>510522567
So what's the excuse of the dems who protected the files?

>>510522206 (OP)
If you think dems have any intention of letting that list go public you're a retard. This is the completely irrelevant democrat party desperately grasping at any semblance of relevancy. To be fair, we could've just released the list instead of giving them this easy W, but you and I both know he's being threatened by Mossad, and he won't survive the year if he releases that list.

>>510522439
Liberals claimed there was no client list and Epstein killed himself in prison, MAGA claimed there there was a list and Epstein was murdered to cover it up. Trump promised to release the files. There are now two possibilities 1) libs were telling the truth 2) trump is defending paedophiles for some reason

>>510522206 (OP)

Are we pretending that the liberals aren't child molesters now?

Like if you want to tell me the whole system needs to come down then lets talk. If you think that this is a justification for you to suck off the corruption of the Democratic party yet again then you're too stupid to live.

>Trump did one big fuck up, that means Democrats are the better side like I've been saying
NO YOU STUPID TRANNY KYS

Democrats.are still trash like you that needs to fucking get killed

>>510522206 (OP)
Noone was right
>the other side was better
lmfao
both are the same

>>510522206 (OP)
I’ll support the child molester if he deports all the shitskins

>>510522511
Something like that

>>510522649
See: >>510522657
The dems were either covering up for paedophiles (which implies Trump is doing the same). Or they were telling the truth and there's no evidence to release (which Trump is now also claiming). I don't profess to know which option is correct but those are the only two options.

>>510522664
If you mean in that specific way that these Epstein files are a nothingburger then sure they're right I guess.

The proper response to the Epstein case is to bomb the jews.

>>510522649
That anon won't answer, they likely realized how stupid they are

>>510522206 (OP)
No one is buying this pathetic "muh two parties are dibrent" bullshit anymore, Chaim. It's over for your AIPAC uniparty Kayfabe

>>510522742
That's a rational take but most of MAGA are incapable of conceding that democrats were right and that they were wrong.

>>510522852
When Trump himself is saying that, how is that somehow "MAGA are incapable"?

>>510522576
>The Democrat list is 10x longer.
Bro! You can't can your political opponents pedophiles!!!! That's politically incorrect!!!!

>>510522594
>Your denial is proof of your guilt
Unironically yes. Especially since there's no reason not to release the list after you already promised to do so.

>>510522639
Absolutely nothing. Good for them. I'm convinced.

>>510522943
I'm referring to the bulk of supporters, not Trump himself.

>>510523019
This is telling me that you should not be allowed anywhere near anything important.

>>510522766
>>510522730
You seem to be under the impression that liberal voters care about protecting Bill Clinton and his friends. Democrats should have released the list and there was no excuse not to. They can all go to prison if they're on the list.

>>510523039
Most of the spam about it isn't Trump supporters. It's Democrats and various foreign glowniggers.

>>510523070
This is telling me that you enjoy protecting pedophiles if they agree with you politically. Fuck off.

>>510523115
>WITCH! WITCH!!!!
>THROW HIM IN THE LAKE!!!!

>>510523114
Don't forget about Groypers and Massie loyalists. This is all Tucker Carlsons fault. He's the one that spread the conspiracy. Now we need to primary Massie

Where one go, we all go

W1gwwgww
Q

>>510522640
Yeah, but they'll pretend that doesnt exist because of the implications.

>>510523074
Your deeds - or rather lack of them - makes your BS transperant. You didnt say a word about this during the Biden years.

>>510523114
>Democrats
You mean former Republicans

>>510523357
Something something nuclear codes.

>>510522282
>My jew team is better than your jew team
Niggerball mentality but gayer somehow

>>510523462
You know what I don't even care about the fucking jews anymore. I just want the white males who were involved to get judged like a normal person would. At least that way we can maintain some dignity. If they jews want a pass they can have it.

>>510523114
I'm not sure what spam you're referring to. The Epstein theories came from MAGA supporters and Trump himself, not Democrats. Now Trump claims there isn't anything to release, so he's essentially conceding he was wrong and the Democrats were right but I've yet to see the same concession from his supporters.

>>510522355
We're calling them pedophiles because they're refusing to release a list that implicates pedophiles.

If you have nothing to hide, then release the information. Same as when a cop asks to search my vehicle. Eventually they WILL have their way.
>You mind if I search your vehicle?
>Well if you don't have anything illegal then you shouldn't have a problem with me searching it.

This is one of those situations. If you're NOT a pedophile, then you should have absolutely no problem with releasing the files. Now just go ahead and release them, we're all waiting.
>

>>510523632
>I'm not sure what spam you're referring to

>Most of the catalogue is "trump is a paedo"

>>510523686
Now I know what you're referring to, but I fail to see the relevance to this line of conversation. That's just opportunistic attacks on Trump from people that don't like him. Are you suggesting that regular MAGA folks are happy admitting the Democrats were right? Because I've not seen that anywhere.

>>510523820
What's even this very thread about retard?

>>510523844
The thread is about the fact that MAGA (dedicated Trump supporters) are faced with the choice of admitting the Democrat establishment told the truth about Epstein all along and that they were wrong or continue to believe they were correct about Epstein and therefore acknowledge that Trump is covering up for paedophiles the same way they need l believe the Democrats did when they were in power. What do you not understand or take issue with about this?

>>510523965
This thread is very much Democrats spamming "trump is a paedo" retard.

>>510523844
>>510523965
Also you should refrain from insults like that, it just makes you look emotional and intelligent

>>510523965
Most of them think the Epstein stuff came from Republicans.... They don't understand yet that the GOP was defending Epstein this whole time.

>>510524028
Go back faggot.

>>510524003
"Democrats" as in anons posting on /pol/ isn't the same as the Democrat establishment that claimed there was nothing of interest in the Epstein case. Trump/MAGA have to concede the Democrat establishment were correct all along because the only other implication is that Trump is protecting paedophiles. That's the issue. Hypocritical Trump haters is a distraction.

>>510524048
I accept your concession

Lol
lmao even

>>510522206 (OP)
How were the liberals right? They only cared that drumpf was a racist and homophobe not a pedo. Funny how you retards rewrite history but can't even pretend to have a little bit of humility to bring fence sitters back to your side

>>510524188
>Miss...Miss! I...I went on 4chan and... and...! He called me a faggot *sniff* Miss! Tell him miss!

>>510524257
I already accepted your concession, anon. No need to embarrass yourself further. You now agree with my position since you're unable to come up with an counterpoint and have started seething instead.

>>510523151
Bro, just release the fucking files like you said you would. It's not hard. I don't know why you're okay with politicians lying about pedophilia.

>>510524336
>I even told him that his attack bounced off of my forcefield Miss but he did it again! Tell him miss!

Aside from Elon paying fuck tons of pajeets to shill that the GOP is harboring pedophiles allow me to completely and utterly destroy any reason why you should give a shit about any of it to begin with.

You notice how this shit has been talked about ad nausem since he magicianed himself? Well how obvious is it with the timing of Elon’s new party and the instant democrat pivot to midterms tells me that everything being discussed is kabuki theatre and it’s a uniparty.

Trump is just iconoclasm that the left can attack to try and bait a reaction. So basically everytime you see someone arguing about rage bait rather than understanding that the dems intentionally loaded a bill with bullshit they knew the republicans would never pass, it’s just bullshit theatre. The dems are just as scumfuck as the other fake party and if anything none of them want the list (the actual list) made public because trust in the system will have completely collapsed and vigilantes will begin taking shit into their own hands, and given the two attempts on trumps life, not a single one of those dumb motherfuckers wants to open that can of worms, because their greed stops at the thought of getting martyred for real.
No one dies for a lie.
Trump only has at best control over the executive and the SC. The legislative and all the bureaus are against him, rendering the entire thing a puppet show.
There are so many pajeets on this board spamming the list to help Elon divide the Republican Party over midterms. If Elon gave a shit (he doesn’t, this is about his subsidies) he would’ve been the first to point out the retarded logic behind taking democrat reps at face value when they deliberately made stupid demands alongside outing blackmailed pedophiles. Basically incriminating them in the process because it’s obvious where the majority of the blackmail resides now.

>>510523310
So because Biden protected pedophiles, Trump should do the same? Do you care more about owning the libs or bringing justice to people that abuse children?

>>510524420
>Thinks ad hominems are legitimate arguments rather than admissions that you lost
lmao

>>510524237
>They only cared that drumpf was a racist and homophobe not a pedo
This isn't remotely true. Why are you lying?

>>510524526
>1+1/=2 because I was also called a faggot

As much as the 2016 election was a fun dab on the left, I have no sympathy left for MAGA. Either admit your party is full of hypocrites or go down in flames at this point.

>>510524561
You literally gave up any attempt to counter anything I said despite multiple opportunities. You're coping.

>>510524616
What is the fallacy fallacy retard?

>>510524444
>Mhu retarded and grotesque god emperor is the good guy belive me, any wrong doing from his was actually 5D chess from democrats to make the republicans look bad, incompetent or both
Sure thing anon, please have another plate of copium

>>510522206 (OP)
>liberals were right
This is retarded. As long as ethnicities and races exist on this planet, Nationalists will always be right. The real question is which brand of Nationalists are right, if it's Germanic Nationalists, White Nationalists, East Asian Nationalists... Who knows.

>>510524639
Here's another opportunity for you, these are all my assertions itt. Tell me which ones you disagree with and your reasoning, otherwise it's obvious you agree with them
>The Democrat establishment claimed Epstein killed himself and there was no credible evidence otherwise or s client list.
>The MAGA base disputed this and Trump himself said he would have the evidence released.
>Trump is now declining to release further evidence.
>This implies that the Democrat establishment were telling the truth or that Trump is refusing to release evidence that incriminates paedophiles.

>>510524961
It's when you assume that my argument must be wrong because it includes an an hominem retard.

>>510524876
Nobody is going to get away with pedophilia while hiding behind nationalism. Nationalists will prosecute pedophiles to fullest. No matter what side they are on.

>>510524961
Hold on, didn't Epstein died under trump's presidency and even then he was adamant to release ALL of the evidence and said on fox that would not be convenient and some people who he doesn't want to be affected may be affected so its delicated but then fox cut it to just say he would release it?
So it Epstein killed himself under trumps watch on his first term how come it was democrat stablishment that you think was the one claiming the suicide as the only explanation?

You are wrong by the fallacy of strawmaning something your opposition never claimed on the first place

>>510524472
>biden protects pedos: you dont care
>trump protects pedos: you care
Conclusion: what decides your opinion isnt the deed but who is doing it.

>>510525115
Raping other nation/lesser races children before killing them under war times is the epitome of nationalism...

Nationalism protects mass children rape

>>510524787
I don’t give a shit about cheeto retard. You people can’t even fucking touch me I’m so ahead of the curve I’m beyond your little false dichotomy uniparty filled with puppets. The real perpetrators are members of cults that run black mail rings to condition society to be religious but to deny God to prepare them for the antichrist.
Either believe it or don’t. I don’t give a fuck.

>>510524999
I didn't see any argument from you but you're welcome to reassert it by responding to my points in that post.

>>510522206 (OP)
Liberals were right about what? That Epstein island is baseless conspiracy and whole prison "suicide" was one in a trillion "cohensidence"?

>>510525289
My argument is that this very thread you are in is part of what you deny exists.

>>510522355
They can lift the age of consent laws so we can return to things ought to be, I'm okay with that

>>510525217
More like =

Biden hides files
>People are allowed to question it non-stop
Trump protects the files, first claiming they dont exist then claiming they were made by Obammna
>Questioning his highness is seen as high treason and media including fox and high profiles on social media fall in line

Yeah we all can see where we have more goverment wanting to control the narrative

>>510522206 (OP)
Too bad the libs are all child molesters too.
Imagine if we could live in a country with sane leadership and didn’t have to choose between the party that whores itself out for Israel and the party that believes men can get pregnant.

>posters in this thread

>>510525171
>You are wrong by the fallacy of strawmaning something your opposition never claimed on the first place
You're misunderstanding my position because I don't have an opposition and I'm not claiming either side is wrong. I'm saying that either MAGA (not Trump) were wrong in their beliefs that the Democrats were purposefully withholding information about Epstein to protect paedophiles OR they were correct but therefore Trump is also withholding that information for the same reason. Does that make sense and do you disagree with it?

>>510525315
>what you deny exists
What would that be? My sole positions are outlined here >>510524961

>>510525475
>This thread is democrats calling trump a paedo because of the Epstein shit which you claim they don't do

>>510525259
>Im far beyond the dichotomy of the uni party
>Exclusively blames Dems until called out

Cope harder retard

>>510525562

Trump is a 90’s democrat, since when do I have to take the party’s presented at face value? Get the fuck off my board.

>>510525514
I didn't claim that and you will be unable to find a post where I did. That's entirely your headcannon because you can't see past team A vs team B. I even acknowledged the exist of opportunistic Trump haters (presumably Democrat aligned) that are being hypocritical in their accusations of Trump being a paedophile. But that isn't related to my positions which again are outlined explicitly here: >>510524961
I take it you agree with that post?

>>510522206 (OP).

trick question, he isn't a pedo, and I'd still vote for that motherfucker, Vance or whoever replaces Drumpf.

America, fuck yeah.

>>510525647
Democrats don't have any real convictions, they change depending on whatever they think will benefit them. If they don't think it will benefit them then Epstein is a nothingburger. If they think they can "get" Trump with it suddenly it is all real.

False dick economy

>>510522649
>>510522766
Democrats didn't make releasing the Epstein files a part of the platform
You did

Does this make sense?

>>510525706
Sure, but again nothing to do with my position.

>>510525750
Of course it does. You are trying to claim that their position is not in fact completely volatile.

>>510525747
The democrats literally loaded the bill with bullshit so that the entirety of congress would have kabuki cover and laudable responses to cover their collusion on the issue. Neither party wants it released so they’ll disguise their intentions behind party color, this has been the game since 1880.

>>510525773
>You are trying to claim that their position is not in fact completely volatile.
Where exactly did I do that? Again you're making things up to argue against rather than addressing any of my points which I have explicitly laid out for you. Again, which of the following do you disagree with and why:
>The Democrat establishment claimed Epstein killed himself and there was no credible evidence otherwise or s client list.
>The MAGA base disputed this and Trump himself said he would have the evidence released.
>Trump is now declining to release further evidence.
>This implies that the Democrat establishment were telling the truth or that Trump is refusing to release evidence that incriminates paedophiles.

>>510525852
For them to be "correct" about something then their position needs to consistent and not change with the wind.

>>510525830
>blah blah blah
Nobody cares.

A part of the reason you voted for Trump was so that he would release the files. He didn't. Now everyone outside of your cult is making fun of you

Does this make sense yet?

>>510525882
I didn't say that. I said
>>This implies that the Democrat establishment were telling the truth
Try to address my actual points and not ones you're making up for me

>>510526075
Are the democrats correct? About what? Did they believe the same thing last week? Will they believe the same thing next week?

>>510525445
You did another fallacy here called pivoting, like a fucking coward, you have now moved your original position to a neutral one instead of addressing the original point which was the strawmaning of something democrats never did since Epstein died under trump's administration

Fuck of britbong and only came back when you stop been nad faith

>>510525907
I haven’t voted for anyone since being eligible to vote, it’s all fake you retard.

>>510522673
The left does not like Joe Biden. If he is on the list fuck him off to jail he goes. We aren't obsessed with politicians like maga weirdos are and we don't run defense for pedophiles just bc their politics are similar to ours. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

>>510526217
Nice cop out I guess

>>510526116
>Are the democrats correct? About what?
That the Epstein files didn't contain incriminating evidence of wider people involved and that Epstein killed himself. Yes or no? It's not a difficult question.
>>510526202
>you have now moved your original position to a neutral one instead of addressing the original point
I haven't you just jumped the gun because you're bi-partisan and emotional. Feel.to quote where I said otherwise.

>>510526367
So last week it was nothing but now this week it's all true and Trump's a paedo. Are they still "correct" despite this?

>>510522206 (OP)
>Admit liberals were right when even biden and comey wouldn't release it

>>510526418
I don't profess to know if they are correct or not. I'm stating what they claimed. Will you answer the question now instead of changing subject?

>>510526507
So if they are not correct about anything, what even is your argument?

>>510522206 (OP)
>admit national socialists were right ,both sides are compromised

I'm going that way

>>510522576

Which is why the Republicans are the ones refusing to release it, right?

>>510522206 (OP)
more like liberals coddled fucking epstein b/c they didn't want bill clinton and democrats exposed

and now the liberals believe Trump is on the list so they want it released

in both cases, liberals only gave a fuck about Epstein for their own political capital

funny how only the incumbent party always defends Epstein and this is b/c no one gives a fuck about those girls, this is just using them once again as a means to an end

>>510526520
I've explicitly stated my argument multiple times, it's bizarre that you have so much difficulty understanding it. Like I said here: >>510525445
Either MAGA (not Trump) were wrong in their beliefs that the Democrats were purposefully withholding information about Epstein to protect paedophiles OR they were correct but therefore Trump is also withholding that information for the same reason. Does that make sense and do you disagree?

>>510522673

Nah, we're cool if the Dems get fucked too. All of the paedophiles deserve the rope. End of.

>>510522355
Trump likes them below 18

>>510525217
>trump protects pedos: you care
And yet Trump is protecting pedos right now and you don't care. So why did you pretend to care when Biden was president?

>>510522206 (OP)
kek you lost trannie and your voters are being deported

>>510526793
Were the democrats correct last week, and if so why have they changed their tune this week?

>>510526875
As I said already I don't know if they were correct, I haven't seen the Epstein files. Why do you refuse to address my actual argument?

>>510526929
And you have now argued yourself out the of the building.

>>510522206 (OP)
The liberals that supported child molestor Biden?

>>510526959
No, this is my original position. I never claimed to know whether the Democrats were correct or not. My position was always that either that were correct and MAGA was wrong or that they were lying and MAGA was right and therefore Trump is as guilty as they are of defending paedophiles. Genuinely, why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

>>510527067
Dropping a smoke bomb and disappearing means you have basically given up.

>>510526856
This. Any amount of smugness or bravado is just plaster over the total destruction of the American left. The psyops will end now.

>>510527067
Dude please stop doing this to yourself he doesn't want to listen there's literally nothing to gain out of interacting with "people" like that

>>510522206 (OP)
Trump supporters always put themselves in a undefendable position time after time where they lose the argument to liberals and Nazis plus everybody else but it never seems to matter to them because according to them it's just all part of the plan, a plan that they usually can't articulate or makes any sense of but they don't really care because they don't feel the need to understand it even, they only need to trust in Trump and he will make everything okay even if it doesn't look like he is.

>>510526823
Wasn't this the societal norm until the 70s? Seems like jews lobbied hard to depress the white birth rate. It would be funny if the Age of Consent gets lowered to 13 to protect elite pedophiles, but all that does is ensure the white birth rate explodes.

>>510527095
How does reasserting and explaining my original position over and over again despite your attempts to twist and rephrase it and complete refusal to address it constitute giving up? I would argue the opposite and that your utter refusal to answer me actual points, making up strawman arguments and ad hominens means you know I'm correct. Again feel free to tell me what you disagree about with my previous statements that I actually posted.

>>510526315
No, it’s blatantly true. I’m immune to your bullshit binary logic of either red or blue. If the bill doesn’t pass and their is moral outrage I know it’s fucking bullshit and both parties are controlled by the same force.

>>510527242
You don't have a position. You refuse to take one. Thus you are not actually arguing anything. It's all lost in smoke.

>>510527129
I'm enjoying it. I like watching people dig holes and embarrass themselves. It's interesting to see how dishonest and insidious people are when facts contradict their ideology.

>>510527181
Oy vey, stop noticing

>>510524552
>July 11th 2025
Lol have a (You)

>>510527273
Do I really need to copy/paste my position again? Ok here:
>Either MAGA (not Trump) were wrong in their beliefs that the Democrats were purposefully withholding information about Epstein to protect paedophiles OR they were correct but therefore Trump is also withholding that information for the same reason. Does that make sense and do you disagree?
Just because I don't fall into the retarded trap of cheerleading for one side doesn't mean I don't have a position.

>>510522206 (OP)

Liberals?
Biden - blue team - progressive left: DIDN'T release the files
Trump - red team - conservatives: DIDN'T release the files
It must be hard to admit that you are all clowns with different paint in the same circus

>>510527357
And now you step out of the smoke to take your position but when I attack it suddenly back into the smoke curtain.

>>510527393
No, that's been my consistent position throughout. It's literally a copy/paste of a previous post that I've said three times now. Now will you finally address it or will you try to change subject again to argue against a position I never held?

>>510527441
And I attack that poposition but when I do it's "I don't know what's right" then next post "This is what I believe is right" then back to smoke, in out, in out tee hee heee you can't get me.

>>510527357
>My false dichotomy

Those are your only two options there, Jack? As far as your brain power can exert? Sad.

>>510527506
>And I attack that poposition
No you don't, you keep asking me if the Democrats were telling the truth or not despite that having nothing to do with my position. I do not and have never claimed to know if the Democrats were telling the truth or not.
> "This is what I believe is right"
Yes, because it's offering two potential scenarios. One in which the Democratic were correct and telling the truth and one in which they were lying. Obviously one of these positions is correct, and therefore my position must be correct. Understand now?

>>510527643
Ok, what's the third option?

>>510527660
The entire point of the thread is that "the liberals were right tee hee hee".

>>510527724
>I'll argue against someone else's point instead of yours tee hee
Again, what do you disagree with about my position?

>>510527684
>Not sure if bait or has been bong for too long

You're aware your monarchy is as false and an Israel asset as is ours, right? I hope that's enough food to get your gears running, I hate typing shit for naught (even more so).

>>510527782
The fact that it doesn't stay "the liberals were right" it becomes "they have now changed their tune but are still right tee hee hee".

>>510522206 (OP)
They weren't wrong, they were just blatantly playing football team game
>not my pedo it was your pedo!
That was always the problem.
They're hypocritical and lack nuance in thought.

>>510527797
You claimed I was giving a false dichotomy, implying you have alternate options. Why can't you state any of them?

>>510522664
This precisely and op is a jew

>>510523039
So you don't even know what you mean

>>510527828
I never claimed the liberals were right. Your arguing against points I never made while ignoring my actual position (for the upteenth time now).

>>510527910
So why are you even arguing in this thread retard?

>>510522567
gotta love confirmation bias

>>510527856
>The list is a compilation between several of our agencies
>The parts have all been sitting around for 4 years during Biden
>Mossad destroy's them the moment Trump wins 2024, they get to compiling a cooked list FAST
>Trump has a mossadie lie to him and assure him there's a list, but he already knows they cooked it
>>He knows because he has the guy the list talks about.

inb4
>nooooo, my predisposition bias tells me ur rooooong GOV'NOR!!!

>>510527933
That's my concern, but believe it or not though not everyone is a braindead cheerleader that picks a side to simp for. Now will you address my actual position or continue to change subject?

>>510528045
I did retard >>510522664
Here is you doing what you now claim you aren't.

>>510522206 (OP)
I just turn around and walk away from both paths.

>>510522206 (OP)
Trump literally told them he was going to be the most pro Israel president in America history.
What did they think that meant?

>>510528080
How is that picking a side when it implies both sides were lying and defending paedophiles if the second option is correct?

>>510522206 (OP)
>a pedophile deepstate turns out to be real, and now the people who've been called cobspuracy theorists for suggesting it despite their best ibterest for years are wrong somehow
>all conservative political policies are no longer conservative policies but either incorrect policies or pedophile policies
False dichotomy. You have to be more specific. I've considered him likely guilty since Epstein didnt kill himself but the democrats looked just as bad with their associations so I stuck with the guy whose policies weren't destructive to my country and race. You are still stuck in left vs right even though we levelled up to engaging with strings of control that actually matter.

>>510528192
>Claim: libs are right or Trump is a pedo
>Now onto: I never even took a position

>>510528235
>Suggesting it for years
>Not "DRUMPF IS A PEDONAZI FASCIST ZIONIST, HANG HIM ORANGE MAN BAD GRRRRRRRRR I LOST MY SHIT ON JANUARY 2025!!"

Hahahah

>>510528243
His side is not a part of the bullshit dichotomy you’re trying to arrogate as real. Engagement threads are cancer.

>>510528437
Setting up that choice is still taking a position.

>>510528243
I never accused Trump of being a paedo. Yet another strawman. I said if MAGA was correct about Epstein and the liberals were lying that would mean he was defending paedophiles by not releasing the files (which implies the Democrats were doing the same). However because you're so buried in partisanship you immediately took it as an insult only to Trump and rushed to his defense without understanding what U said. You've still to mention anything you disagree with in my position btw

>>510528654
You set up your choice, I then attacked it. If the libs are now attacking Trump as a paedo, then they are abandoning their "correct" position and are now lying for political gain.

>>510527354
>The Left never called Trump a rapist before 2025
Again, you're retarded. Fuck off.

>>510528465
No, the reason it was phrased that way is because it was responding to your post, which was extremely partisan. If I was responding to a liberal claiming Trump was a paedo I would have phrased it in the inverse saying that either Trump is telling the truth or the Democrats are also complicit in covering for paedophiles.

>>510528753
Yes of course they are if they do that. I've already acknowledged that twice. But that has nothing to do with my position.

>>510527387
And yet Republicans are the only ones blocking the release of these files today. Why is that?

>>510528804
So are the libs STILL telling the truth?

>>510522355
Shut up, pedo

>>510522206 (OP)
But liberals are pedophiles aswell.. why do you pivot it towards one when its the wings of the same bird?.. are you jewish, why do you engage in D&C tactics?

>>510526856
>>510527122
Just wait for the midterms. MAGA is cooked.

>>510528860
I never claimed the libs were telling the truth and made it very explicit that I don't know if they are or aren't.

>>510529092
Yes you did faggot. You set up that choice, not fucking stand on it.

>>510523561
Doesn't work like this. Jews suck every civ dry until it dies or they're thrown out. Winner takes it all.

>>510529121
now*

>>510522206 (OP)
you mean Trump being a perverted degenerate sexual predator . yeah who could have predicted this. the people preaching conservative traditional nuclear family values are ok with some pervert fucking prostitutes while married leading them. shocking. christlarpers have become all the things they preach against

>>510529121
Quote where I said the libs were telling the truth. I very obviously gave two options, one where they were telling the truth and one where they weren't and didn't give precedence to either one. Stop being so obtuse.

>>510529361
Trump's not a paedo. What are you now arguing retard?

>>510522206 (OP)
It's amazing to watch you fuckers lose then have a losers convention where you have a conversation with yourself that no one else is listening to.
>theleftcan'tmeme.exe

>>510529407
I never claimed he was. I said EITHER he's covering for paedophiles by withholding the Epstein files OR the Democrats were correct when they said the files didn't contain incriminating information. I'm not giving either of those options precedence, I'm just stating a fact. In neither scenario do I accuse Trump of being a paedophile.

>>510529627
So if he's not a paedo and your choice was he is or the libs were telling the truth. what are you arguing retard?

>>510522355

"You're the villain actually for pointing out what I was doing"

There is no "allowing for a way out" here you thunderfaggot. THESE PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO GOOOO do you get that?

>>510529662
>he's not a paedo and your choice was he is
It wasn't though. Try reading my post again. In neither scenario do I accuse Trump of being a paedophile.

>>510522464
Are there seriously adults that think democrats are anti Israel

>>510529788
Right here retard >>510522664
You setting up that very choice. Don't claim it wasn't you, you just changed your ID.

>>510529852
That is me, my IP switched itself. But there's nowhere in that post where I accuse Trump of being a paedophile. Read it again

>>510529923
Fine, defending paedophiles. It doesn't change anything of substance.

>>510526288
He was the elected president, faggot. He was liked.

>>510529963
Finally. Now what exactly is incorrect about this?

>>510529165
is it true that illegal aliens are raping children

>>510522576
ok pedo

>>510530062
My point is that if the libs were correct before but are now singing a different tune, then they must now be lying or were before incorrect.

>>510530148
Ok? And how does this relate to my position?

>>510530212
You choice did not include that. Just that "the libs were right" completely ignoring that their position is not consistent though time.

>>510522206 (OP)
> admit liberals were right
Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didnt realize "trump is part of the elite jewish cabal of pedophiles" was what Kamala and dems have been screaming about for 8years now! I thought it was:
> Russia Russia Russia
> Ukraine
> Pee pee tapes
> Orange man supports KKK
> Orange man mock criples
> Orange man hitler bad
> George Froid
> Russia collusion
> Tax cheat
> He is a convict
> Orange man deports illegal

Im sure Im missing some, but I recall WE were the ones talking about jewish cabals of pedophiles, and the LEFT was the ones calling US crazy rightwing conspiracy nazis!

Btw I knew (or suspected) he was a pedo all along, but thats how much I hated Biden/Kamala/Walz/obama/woke shit.

>>510522206 (OP)
false dichotomy.
i was talking about epstein in 2015 and it was a lot about hillary, bill clinton, dershowitz and many others

>>510530258
Why would I care about that? I'm not trying to defend liberals, I'm pointing out the incongruity in the current MAGA discourse. I'm not rooting for either side and anyone that does at this point is cucked frankly.

>>510530414
Are the libs now lying when they call Trump a paedo or were they wrong before?

>>510530474
As I've told you multiple times I don't know. Neither do you.

>>510530582
>NINPO!
>*POOF*

>>510529043
>Nossad thinks this will happen

>>510530629
This is consistent with my original position that I've maintained throughout this discussion, anon. I have never claimed to know which of the two scenarios is more likely. Not sure why you keep thinking otherwise.

>>510530709
This is the continuation of that position retard. If they were right before, but that's not what they are saying now, does that mean they are now lying?

>>510528161
>NY socialites knew each other
this is indeed a shocking revelation

>>510530752
>If they were right before, but that's not what they are saying now, does that mean they are now lying?
Obviously, but I never claimed that were right before. Inversely if they were wrong before you must therefore agree that Trump is withholding incriminating evidence on paedophiles. One of these scenarios is correct, neither of us know which one. Glad you finally seen to get it.

>>510530853
>Obviously
There we go. Libs are lying about Trump being a paedo.

>>510530898
If they were telling the truth before and MAGA was incorrect about Epstein. Alternatively they were lying before and MAGA was correct and Trump is defending paedophiles. Both are possible and neither of us know which is correct.

>>510522355
>I called someone a pedo so now they get to do whatever they want to me

If Trump is innocent he would have no issue releasing the list like he said he would and clearing his name but he hasn't

>>510531001
What does Trump say now?

>>510531024
He seems to be trying to get everyone to forget about the whole Epstein thing and chastising anyone mentioning it.

>>510531023
so trump is able to beat pedo charges but 34 counts of falsifying business records is just too much of an insurmountable legal challenge?

>>510531023
>Mossad played their cards and have burned their bridges, now they either ramp up the propaganda or will be disposed off, because one doesn't harbor traitors/spies
>"MUH CIVILIAN SCOOOOPEEEE"

Yess, nossadie. Soon you'll get exposed for your propaganda dickery here.

>>510531124
Because he has come to agree with the position that there's nothing there. Yet rather than just leave it at that, the libs then switch.

>>510531226
Which means MAGA was incorrect about Epstein and the Democrats were telling the truth OR he's lying and is withholding information that incriminates powerful people of child abuse. Like I said, we don't know which is correct.

>>510531336
The libs had their position they believe is correct and it's different to what they are saying now after Trump agreed with it.

>>510531336
OR EVERYONE IS GETTING JEWED, OH >>510531336
>NO, ANOTHER OPTION BEYOND A SECOND? MY MIND IS BROKEN!

>>510522503
Post proof

>>510531394
What's your point? My statement is still correct.

>>510531449
My point is that all this "trump is a paedo" spam is lying libs who have changed their tune pure for political expedience.

>>510531495
You're going to fry his brains at this rate, Anon

>>510531495
In which case you acknowledge that MAGA was wrong and the Democrats were right. However it's also possible that they were lying before and Trump is defending paedophiles too. You don't know which is correct.

>>510531629
Decent VIDEO

>>510531755
What were they right about again? You switch the goalposts around so much your shit dichotomy it's tiring to keep up, even as a <third> party.

>>510526288
Drivel

Talmud and USA constitution were written all about serving child molesters.
You are antichrist nations

>>510522327
Thia. There's actually no other solution.

>>510522206 (OP)

Wouldn't releasing the epstein stuff harm democrats more than Trump?

>>510522206 (OP)
Freedom is best. And hard choices.

>>510534565
Yes, because Trump's supporters have proven that they will overlook things worse than pedophilia to support him.

>>510531977
I didn't say they were right, I said IF they were right.

>>510522355
I don't fucking care, let them bring it on I'll kill ever single one of these evil scumbag piece of shits. Let's settle this once and for all, being it on motherfuckers.

>>510534953

Just like you're proving that Democrats have overlooked the Clintons and the Bidens?

>>510522206 (OP)
I noticed with imbreed ads

They would blatantly promote the child molestor

>>510535258
And if they were right before, but are now saying the opposite, they are now lying.

>>510533255
Muslims also do it but you give them a free pass while compulsory drafting your white kids
Same story for the UK

>>510536583
Yes, if they were right before they are lying now and MAGA was wrong about Epstein. Alternatively they could have been lying before and Trump is defending paedophiles. Those are the options.

>>510536788
So either way, the libs are lying about something.

>>510536891
Sure, and either way MAGA were lying. They're all scum.

>>510536938
No actually that does not follow. Being wrong about something and then correcting it is not lying. The libs on the other hand went from the truth to a falsehood.

>>510537045
But MAGA supporters and libtards calling Trump a paedophile are both equally informed or uninformed on the reality of the situation.>>510537045
>The libs on the other hand went from the truth to a falsehood.
We don't know if that went from a truth to falsehood or from a falsehood to a truth.

>>510537045
Imbreed is a child molestor

The sooner you accept it

>>510537171
Maga supporters: Believe something to be true and either change because they have been convinced it is false or continue to believe what they believe.

Libtards: Believe something is true and then when others come to agree with it they switch not because they believe that is the real truth but simply because they don't like the person who agreed with their position and they can call them names if they switch. They don't have any real beliefs. They change with the wind to whatever they think gives them advantage.

>>510522327
As if MAGAtards would go against the based "nationalist jews"

>>510537469
>Believe something to be true and either change because they have been convinced it is false
Not necessarily, they could choose to switch sides purely because they think it's Trump that's now withholding the files. No different from Liberals. Both sides switched stances as soon as it became politically convenient.

>>510537469
So if you accepted imbreed is a pedo I would deny it?

Or Trump

>>510537608
That is not changing their beliefs. Before they thought there was something to the Epstein stuff and they still do. They might be wrong but they are consistent.

>>510537722
If you believe something but claim something else that's lying, anon. If libtards claimed the files were not incriminating but now claim they are that lying. If maga claimed the files were being withheld to protect paedophiles but then claim they aren't as soon as their candidate is the one in charge that's also lying.

tired of winning yet?

>>510537845
They don't claim something else. Those that believe there's some magic paedo list being covered up by the government still do, no matter who it is doing the covering. Others may have before but have now been convinced otherwise.

>>510537915
>Others may have before but have now been convinced otherwise.
Or they're just pretending they believe otherwise because Trump is the one withholding them. Your argument is the same as if a libtard claims he thought there was no Epstein client list but changed his mind based on the Trump administration's response to it.

>>510522206 (OP)
Ukrainians rape their kids.

>>510538028
Well if they then switch back again simply because it's now a Democrat rather than trump then you would have a point but that's not what has happened.

This is the main difference between the left and right. The left have zero principles beyond whatever gives them advantage in the moment. The right might believe some crazy stuff but they don't just switch about depending on whatever lets them "win".

Epstein did nothing wrong

Conservatives hold values that say that pedophilia is wrong, liberals hold values that say that pedophilia is normal and natural and that people who are attracted to kids shouldn't be oppressed.

If you want to know what someone truly believes look at how they behave, if they don't honor their professed beliefs with their actions then they don't really believe what they claim to.

>>510538211
So by your logic us liberals should know if someone is a pedo

>>510538161
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that when MAGA change their position it's legitimate but if libtards do it it's opportunistic. People in both camps changed their mind as soon as it suited their interests. You're delusional and naive if you think that's coincidence.

>>510522519
this would be a better, more persuasive graphic if it was a list of politicians who were convicted pedos since 2020. I assure you that most people care far less about R or D than you might believe.

>>510538331
I already explained it. The right can be reasoned with and if they are wrong will admit it. The left will lie as much as they have to to get their way as to them winning is winning whether they do it clean or dirty.

>>510538563
That's not an objective reason. That's your personal opinion because it conveniently aligns with your side being the good guys.

liberals :

Wrong about Russia
Wrong about jussie smollett
Wrong about the Vaccine
Wrong about Biden
Wrong about the border
Wrong about j6


These faggots are just annoying. They're literally just learning of epstein and only to try to hurt Trump. These same people insulted pizzagate people. These same people cheered on the J6 inquisition and alex jones persecution. Liberals are rarely right, and for damn sure are not right here.

These stupid motherfuckers trying to make this a gotcha thing is never going to work.

>>510538321
>So by your logic liberals should have pedo sniffing powers?

No, I didn't say that, retard. I said your party's values are that pedophilia isn't a heinous moral crime but rather just another sexuality that needs protection from conservative bigots.

Conservative Christian values call out pedophilia and so anyone who professes to be on the side of conservatism yet attends secret child rape parties and openly gives money to the secular, anti-Christian state of Israel like every other Democrat/Republican president before him cannot call himself a conservative.

>>510522206 (OP)
You can just be on any side and hate pedos like trump. Right or left

>>510538693
It is my personal opinion after decades of watching them at work. The right might say things that make people angry at them, but it's not a lie (or at least they believe they are telling the truth). The left will tell you things that sound good and don't care if it's true or not (they will in fact attack the truth if it disagrees with them).

>>510538738
Do we?

I must have missed the pedos are just misunderstood gays poetry reading, but am sure the poems sound great in english

Hence I were

Lusting over Fabián

What stud gave me a british harden

>>510538911
>It is my personal opinion
Exactly. That said, that's been my opinion too when it comes to actual conservatives, but MAGA mostly just behave the exact same way as libtards and have no principles.

>>510534953

You tried. pedophilia is pretty much the bottom of the barrel. You're a liberal faggot. You harbor false beliefs about Trump, and it makes it impossible for people to come to your defense because of all the retarded shit you believe in.

>muh 34 felonies in an election year
>in an election year

The entire 2024 democrat plan was to smear Trump as much as possible and try to shame people for voting for him. Fuck those people. It didn't work, and it's easy to tear apart all their shit. None of the court cases were legitimate. All of those cases were activist democrats abusing their office to try to get rid of Trump.

In fact, if I was in the FBI, I would consider all of those actions as part of the same over-arching anti-Trump conspiracy that the assassination attempts are part of. They repeatedly tried to hurt Trump. One of the aims of all the cases was to get Trump to give up.

They said Biden was too old and senile to face charges... yet they had no trouble dragging Trump from court to court where the judge, prosecutor, and many of the jurors all hated him and had a bias that simply could never be cured. Never. New York? 80% democrat vote?

>his lawyers picked the jury!

Liberals are literally retarded. This is elementary school stuff but they pretend to not understand the very basis of the justice system. All those cases were political. And the "34 felonies" is completely retarded.

They upgraded misdameanor charges, claiming Trump lied by listing payments to his lawyer as legal fees. Cohen did the stormy payment of his own accord, and entered into a plea w\ a democrat lawyer to try to hurt Trump. They suggested Trump was guilty of what Cohen plead to, but then they didn't charge him with that.

Any legitimate person could see the issue with that.

>>510539219
When one side has no morals and will do anything to win then when it's do or die you either do it back or die. This is how wars start really.

>>510523070
the reality that I think most of us are working off of is this:

- Trump probably didn't do any pedo shit with Epstein, but is definitely "on the list" just by association
- but Trump may have done pedo shit with Epstein
- Trump may also have done any manner of other sketchy financial shit with Epstein, and that might become clear, which would damage him just as much

Also, for the record, banging 14-17 year-olds who were, for the most part, at least somewhat consenting and were compensated is certainly evil, but not the worst crime ever. If it went worse than that, then that's different; the point is: we're concerned about the kids and want to protect them but that's actually not the big fish here.

the big fish is that in reality, I think something like this is goin on:
Those files would expose a lot of new information about dealings and a power structure surrounding Epstein that would benefit the public, but not those in power.

>>510539366
>When one side has no morals and will do anything to win
That describes both sides now and why I don't support either. What's the point in your side winning when they have zero principles or morals and are just as bad as the opposing side? That's just watching politics as a sport.

>>510539511
This all hinges on these files containing some bombshell evidence that proves there is some massive paedo cabal running the government which is mere an assumption that is not actually supported by any hard evidence. Some assume this evidence exists and demand its release. If it doesn't and so can't be they will just assume it's all a coverup anyway. They are not rational people.

>>510526626
But then why wouldn't Democrats try to Torpedo Trump with it in the last 8 years if he was on the list? Seems like a lot of mutually assured destruction was involved. Anyone innocent could give up that list no blowback, yet no one could.

>>510539584
Because being moral and dead might be admirable but you're still dead.

>>510539919
It's not even just about morality. Neither side represents my interests. There is no reason to support either.

>>510540061
That's your decision, I'm just giving some context as to why people have to play that game. You can't have your moral society when half the political spectrum reject those morals. So such people need to be policed or even killed until you have your society that generally agrees on the basic rules of that society.

>>510540280
Well I'm glad you're finally admitting that both sides are evil at least.

>>510539831
alright, then here's what we're calling for:
- release the files.
- if you're correct, and it's true that no such evidence exists, then explain the whole process, including campaign promises, why Kamala/Biden didn't counter with "Trump you liar, there is no list", etc. Take us from Epstein's death in 2019 to now, with everything in its proper place.

I'll say that one thing that doesn't support "List doesn't exist" is Ghislaine's offer to delver the list.

but it's complex, my limey friend. So for now my take, is

1. Call Trump a pedo loudly and often until he either releases list or explains the whole thing to a satisfactory degree

2. OP is a fag and the dichotomy he posted is indeed flase because Libs/Democrats absolutely, positively do not offer any sort of acceptable alternative for leadership.

Not sure how I'm gonna play it at this point, but that's the best i got

>>510540357
Is ensuring that you are not wiped out by bad actors really evil?

>>510522282

All politicians are plants.

>>510522206 (OP)
>too retarded to see the obvious
something something glass houses

>>510522206 (OP)
>We could have had the first brown, female president.
>Shame.

>>510522327
>exterminating the jews by voting for the biggest zionist
Trump even told you to vote for Kamala to destroy Israel and the official MAGA cope was that Trump is a pathological liar and should not be trusted.

>>510540434
I personally think that the only way to some sort of conclusion to this is they release whatever they have. If it's nothing people didn't already know then so be it. People crying that they must be hiding more can cry. They have nothing.

>>510540747
>uh counterpoint: I think this is Obama!
lmao

THE LIBERALS WHO SUPPORT BIDEN AND GO BLIND WHEN SHOWN THE BIDEN CP & TEXTS.
They ARE wrong.
And we knew Trump had been honeypotted since Maxwell was arrested.
You’re a pedo, democrats are pedo’s and you’re an idiot.
You’ve destroyed this subject.
And epstein is only pedo related IN AMERICA with it’s whacky laws. 16 is the age of consent in the rest of the world.
Idiot.
Every time a pedo starts talking about this
>THE BIDEN CP MAKES YOU GO BLIND
until they arrest biden they can shut up. Only we can talk about these subjects they have no room too, but they’ve spoiled epstein, pedo’s going on about pedophilia. Ha.

>>510541081
>THE LIBERALS WHO SUPPORT BIDEN AND GO BLIND WHEN SHOWN THE BIDEN CP & TEXTS
What's "the Biden CP"? If it exists, why is "hair sniffing" all that gets posted?

>>510522206 (OP)
Someone being wrong =/= the other right.
Both of your parties are the same, shill.
Know whats worse than molestation? Death. That small number of girls got to live out their rich lives.

Literal genocide being funded by both parties and you corrupt, paid-actors are still trying to play the same song-and-dance? You gotta MIX IT UP, SHILL!

>>510522464
>as if anyone would give credence to a video in the age of AI.

>delusional 'tard or deranged shill?
>por que no los dos?

>>510522206 (OP)
Nigger