Thread 510608499

>Japan
>Full of creators across the country
>They had 10+ years before today to develop their own payment system between buyers and creators so creators could export their work with a big enough margin that they wouldn’t have to bow to Visa and Mastercard anymore.
>Did nothing.
>Is this country stupid or what?

>>510608499 (OP)
They have their own systems. They just don't stupid gaijins like you ruining it for them.

>>510608499 (OP)
>"WE MUST FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT TO MASTURBATE TO CARTOONS"!
No

>>510608499 (OP)
>They had 10+ years before today to develop their own payment system between buyers and creators so creators could export their work with a big enough margin that they wouldn’t have to bow to Visa and Mastercard anymore.
JCB and Paypay exist

>>510608499 (OP)
So let me get this straight
The sitting US president is currently running cover for a prolific child sex trafficker

And amidst all this tumultuous discourse, visa and Mastercard have unilaterally decided that I can't use my money to buy a hypno porn game on steam , because a constellation of women's groups wrote them a bunch of letters

Did I get that right? What level of dystopia is this?

>>510608670
You're absolutely correct yes.
>What level of dystopia is this?
Sometimes I think we are actually already in a form of hell, which makes me not feel so bad about all the terrible injustice of this world because I like to think "well, it's hell" and that actual justice is happening on a higher plane.

>>510608641
Enjoy not being able to buy bread in 10 years you dumb faggot

>>510608641
Video it's pretty accurate i would say

>>510608670
>What level of dystopia is this?
Unfortunately, only the first level. It's going to get much worse.

>>510608611
They do and visa/mastercard are actively working to make it illegal to have different payment processors in those countries.
It caused a huge political fuss in Indonesia for instance. Where they tried to get an alternative payment system that everyone used banned.

>>510608499 (OP)
>Why are big companies allowed to be so big
Gee I dunno, maybe it has something to do with who you keep voting for.
>>510608670
More or less, credit companies have long been sticks in the mud about porn so that's nothing new

>>510608499 (OP)
As if we needed anymore proof this place is run by bots.

>>510608670
Pretty glad I never took steam that seriously.
Forcing always online drm to access your titles has always been a massive red flag for me.

>>510608670
It all stemmed from some random rape weg that got them all mad earlier this year. I cant remember if steam banned it or if the devs just removed it from steam themselves, but there was a semi viral movement probably composed of the same people from this one begging steam to ban it. They found out that wasnt even the tip of the iceberg so they got a bunch of other people together and cried harder. I told /v/ this is EXACTLY what would happen when they said they didnt give a fuck, and now they're trying to ban it all.

>>510608499 (OP)
Ahem

All you had to do was support Amex.

>>510608499 (OP)
what does japan have to do with this?

valve is an american company, visa and mastercard are american companies, the games being debanked by visa and mastercard are largely american games made by americans

how the fuck is this a japanese issue?
the real problem is what in the commie fuck is going on here with visa and mastercard blatantly violating every principle of capitalism and the US government and american corporations just shrugging about it

>>510608499 (OP)
Oh no I can't acquire *squints* Incest Daughters BDSM anymore.

Are you fucking kidding me? Visa and Mastercard are based for cleaning up this shit.

>>510608499 (OP)
I heard of a chink galaxy-brain immigrant who created his own payment startup to try competing, and he got chased back into choyna.
And I also heard of someone a bit obscure in picrel.
Financial entities and their class are an echelon above corporate entities and their class in globohomo. Japan is an integral part of globohomo, one of the sides in the trilateral comission. In law and everything. It's why due diligence legislation was created, so finance could profit from the assymetry in information they held over corps. Edi stemmed from them in exchange for funding. If it hadn't, nobody would have given a shit.

>>510608982
Okay but the entire Republican Party is defending Jeffrey Epstein right now lmao
Talk about retarded priorities if you want to defend kids
Why go after some coomer with a hypno porn collection? Oh right because he's a powerless dork and the real child abusers are all mobsters with actual power and these feminist twats just care about dominating and humiliating and tearing down random goons, not actually help children

>>510608982
This was it. People should've known they weren't going to stop there.

>>510608982
No, that's not why. They already did this to japanese storefronts.
Visa and MasterCard were found to be liable for purchases after a court case because of underage girls selling themselves on pornhub.
So now, anything that is considered "illegal" by the letter of the law they are blocking any and all payments for. That is what actually caused this rolling storm with them.

>>510608577
Yes, your digital beanie babies that track every movement and purchase for all time are the answer to the ZOG dominance of payment systems, and the propping up of 3 generation old tech isn’t done by glowies so they can flag wallets and crack anonymity on the internet.
Brilliant solution

>>510609167
All porn is arguably illegal under obscenity laws anyway

>>510608499 (OP)
It's fucking over, actually

>>510609102
Not their job to clean that shit up

If you don't like it, make it illegal through representative and the electoral process and remove it through legal enforcement arms

this vigilante shit by out of control power mongering banks is unacceptable, they already pulled blatantly abusive stunts in canada where they debanked families that were protesting against forced and coerced covid injections, a literal human rights violation

>>510608499 (OP)
Who are you quoting?

>>510609102
Yeah, it will be real based when they use this precedence to shut down your payments for complaints about Israel, huh.

>>510608905
Was that MIR or something else? I don't know much about Indonesia. I know they've been working with China, but mir looks a bit too much.

I'll just use paypal thanks Elon

>>510608499 (OP)
>They had 10+ years before today to develop their own payment system between buyers and creators so creators could export their work with a big enough margin that they wouldn’t have to bow to Visa and Mastercard anymore.

But they did.
>JCB credit and debit cards
>Suica, Icoca, and many trasportation pre-paid cards that can be used for everything
>Paypay, Merpay and over a brazilion other barcode payment apps
>Convenience store gift cards for virtually every mainstream online store
>Paidy
>Various cryptocurrencies and exchanges

And Steam has native support for most of those alternative payment methods.
The problem is that VISA and MC are just too big and universal and have control over the banks that control those alternatives payment methods. It's impossible to run away, unless you're Russia and get sanctioned into oblivion.

>>510609235
It's just a domestic QR code payment system they use. Visa and MasterCard tried to tell Indonesia they weren't allowed to use it anymore.

Why do you think Russia spent 10+ years setting up their own payment network. And it worked. They are free from the West now.

>>510609193
Long gone are the times in which your anticrypto rhetoric was parroting about how it was bad because it was untraceable and that's why the druggies and north korea used it, huh?

>>510608499 (OP)
They fear the white man's technology. it's the same reason they still fax.

>>510608959
Sorry man, its just how the dead internet theory is nowadays.

>>510608499 (OP)
Come home, white man. BaZed ruske will save us.

>>510609339
I’m not anti crypto, bitcoin isnt crypto.
It’s a prototype that was adopted by retards who thought it was anonymous, and since normies took the bait they decided to bandwagon on a supply that is owned 90% by the same people that they think they’re gettin heckin’ freedom from.
Ask yourself why monero is banned in so many places, and why bitcoin is adopted by every place that spies on its own populace.
Bitcoin isn’t anonymous, it’s pseudononymous. I really wouldn’t expect you to get it, you think you’re part of the vanguard when you’re the fish on the hook

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608499 (OP)
Just add crypto payments and problem solved.

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510609287
sounds even more sus. And mir is a thing there supposedly already. Either they're getting very twitchy about alternative payment systems or they know something most don't know. for one, globohomo political leaders have openly talked about denying on denying access to banking, financial services, etc to force military service (some bloke in the UK) or have already done it (Fidelito in leafland for truckers).
>system QRIS
Is this it?

>>510609593

>>510609339

>>510609821
>sounds even more sus
What are you talking about paco? There is nothing sus about it, it's just a mobile payment system. What's sus is Visa and MasterCard trying to rule the world.

>>510609830
I own more of it than you do.
It’s not crypto, it’s a honeypot. It’s not the answer, it’s an element of control

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608499 (OP)
You sound like a kremlinbot

>>510609593
>pseudononymus
Indeed, just stage an over the counter sale to yourself. Transfer some BTC to a new wallet that’s not linked to you. You can also use Monero to “move” BTC to a clean wallet.

>>510609952

>>510609339

And no, you don't. And yes, it is in fact, anonymous. And I also have more XMR than you, as well.

>>510608577
steam removed support for bitcoin in 2017 because it was too expensive for them to process refunds
steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1464096684955433613

>>510610026
Washed and tumbled sats are flagged for all time. The value of the bitcoin is related to it only having been used for kosher purposes. Soon only trusted sats will be accepted at points of sale, ran by the same payment processors this thread is about. I’m better at this than you are, I’m not telling you to sell everything, I’m saying if you put all your eggs in this one basket you’re going to have a bad time.

>>510610063
Ok lol

>>510608668
>Paypay
it's the most cucked platform they literally close/freeze accounts with money just because you wrong think

>>510610251
>no retort
That's right.

>>510609886
I was talking about them, not the qr system. Read again here.
>Either they're getting very twitchy about alternative payment systems or they know something most don't know.
>burger education and reading comprehension
Anyway
>What's sus is Visa and MasterCard trying to rule the world.
Mutt finance did already rule most of the world.

>>510610191
Exactly.
The entire reason bitcoin is pumped is because it is wholly controlled by these same entities that control finance, and because by liquidating shorts and longs market makers can recoup their expenses. Also, tether still exists.
Once any real war goes live the internet will throttle and the price of bitcoin will plummet because the “market price” is a gigantic circlejerk.
My anticipation is that the chain will be forked into competing variants controlled by opposing factions that will both claim to control the real bitcoin, and then a new fork will be introduced as a CBDC, while claiming not to be a CBDC
>>510610455
Story of my fucking life

>>510610577
You’re brown and poor, invest in rope

>>510610685
Mad.

>>510608499 (OP)
>Is this country stupid or what?
They don't want to get nuked by Israel's bitch a third time.

>>510610648
Bitcoin follows the stock market for a reason. It's all institutional money.

>>510609299
And all the five eyes are now trying to start a war with them. Remember the titanic and uss liberty.

>>510610732
I don’t normally engage with niggers but I’ve been drinking, so I’m a bit mad I wasted time hand feeding pearls to swine.
You have no arguments, I’m not engaging with you anymore.
You’re not me, but you wish you were

>>510608909
So tired of retards like you. It doesn't matter who you vote for. If you could change anything with a vote, they wouldn't let you do it. Do you want to know the odds of getting 2 genuine authentic pro-israel candidates for 60 years in a row in a demographic with 20% anti Israel population?

It's less then 0.01%

That's the reality of the situation. Who you can vote for has been controlled since JFK died.

>>510610877
>so I’m a bit mad
Yes I already pointed that out here.
First step is to admit it.

>>510609593
doesn't "crypto" refer to how the coins are encrypted rather than anonymity?

>They had 10+ years before today to develop their own payment system between buyers and creators so creators could export their work with a big enough margin that they wouldn’t have to bow to Visa and Mastercard anymore.
Japan has a credit card network called JCB. They have a reciprocity agreement with Discover. In theory, they could avoid Visa and Mastercard's rules by ONLY accepting Discover from foreign buyers.

But they don't get to choose what payment method you use. You the foreign customer likely only have a Visa card or a Mastercard. Some of you have Amex or Discover, but most do not. If they want to sell to you, they have to meet you at YOUR level, not the other way around. Which is why Visa and Mastercard are dominant. They gatekeep American consumers from other countries.

>>510610861
Yeah, it’s a circlejerk. If it wasn’t controlled it wouldn’t be pumped. Any wishful thinking about the little people all teaming up to own the banks and have a revolution into bitcoin is silly cope. No coiners bandwagoning with their 5000 sat life savings are fucking sad to me
>>510611099
Yeah man your digital usd deposits are crypto, too

>>510608499 (OP)
japan prefer real money over plastic

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510608909
>t. Big Pharma vax cattle currently drinking some Onions while watching MSNBC and wearing some stunning & brave "take a knee" apparel made by Nike
kys

>>510611157
High value effortpost.
The blackpill is that every country that needs the US to defend them from a local akula has to bend over and spread at the whim of visa and the PayPal mafia.

I’m working on something new and if it gets any traction I’m going to pump it. It’s in the kitchen, no, you can’t see it yet. I’m working on how to make sure as few browns are invested before I basically donate money to the market cap. I’ll probably release it on here and another board besides /biz/ first because I think you would do the most politically incorrect shit with it
Captcha: VXYVK

>>510608499 (OP)
there exist how many crypto currencies which could be used instantly (ok prerequisite is you have to have funds of that crypto, still.)

>>510609088
It’s white fragility. Blame poc for the white devil’s doing.

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>>510612159
by the way did not read what content you want to get, so my advice is for over 18 depicting content ...

>>510608499 (OP)
They made it illegal to buy certain mangas and anime and also all products R18 from Japan are illegal in Australia because of some politician who's a tranny who got upset

>>510609299
>>510609419
Japs have as much population as Russia and are more technologically advanced, they would easily make their payment system but after 1945 Japan is an occupied country, America won't allow them.

>>510612159
They still have to accept whichever crypto-crypto you’re using, which limits the utility of all the digital beanie babies to the same type of visa bottleneck the thread is about.
I have ideas about how to actually have a monetary revolution but it would require sponsoring an exchange and I don’t want to end up plane crashed in the mountains or hit by a drunk driver or committed suicide with 2 bullets to the head. I don’t have “fuck you” money but I do have “kill that fucking guy after you torture him” money
>>510612358
Similar reasons for why monero is illegal in kangaland

>>510609600
>>510609601
>>510609602
>>510609607
all within six seconds, that's some good work

Hmm, good point.

>>510612444
Japan does have an alternate payment system that Japanese people use.
It's Americans trying to buy Japanese shit that get cucked by visa/mastercard.

>>510608641
pure revulsion. those are grown adults. also theyre ugly, yes

>>510611099
Coins are just numbers on a log. The log uses cryptographic technology to keep itself consistent (everyone uses the same log), but every transaction request uses assymetric encryption because in essence, a wallet is asymmetrical encryption. You use the private key to access it, and everyone sees (part of) the public key.

Example, say, Anon wants to send 1 coin to Beanus, so Anon (cryptographically) signs his transaction request. The request points to the last transaction he was involved in, to prove he has enough to give Beanus some. Every leftover from every transaction ever made gets stored in the log.

>>510609088
>the real problem is what in the commie fuck is going on here with visa and mastercard blatantly following every principle of capitalism and the US government and american corporations just shrugging about it

>>510612903
Accurate.
The immutability of the ledger is both a core feature and a gaping anonymity flaw on a long enough timescale. Try cashing out lol. The structure of bitcoin also makes the ledger increasingly cumbersome, leading to high transaction fees, and though newer cryptos have mostly solved the wonkiness of bitcoin building on the same idea, they aren’t adopted because the boomer banks already bought the bitcoin and the glowies control most of the supply.
Why would they pump something they didn’t own most of? Bitcoin is basically a bnb shitcoin.
One of the funnier reasons why monero is banned is because even doing their best feds can’t ever state with certainty the amount of the transfer from a->b, or with 100% certainty that a->b even happened, and there are like 10 dudes in each county that have the technical knowledge enabling them to testify about it as an expert in court.
However, if the government wants to fuck with you they can in a myriad of ways that aren’t legal that they’ll do anyway because you have no recourse

>>510608641
what an insult to Ursula

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded
but seriously copy paste/spam ≠ bots

Blik will colonize entire world.

>>510608499 (OP)
>Is this country stupid or what?
Abe tried to free his people, but was killed and replaced with a Globalhomo Golem. Many such cases.

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded
we did it reddit

>>510608959
>As if we needed anymore proof this place is run by bots.
Nah, these are just /v coomers who ran to /pol after getting banned on /v for spamming about how they can't buy Rape Simulators on Steam anymore.

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

Epstein was connected to the banks and payment processors. Because they're run by jewish pedophiles who love to project, they'll virtue signal by banning stuff instead of NOT raping real-world children. When Trump talks about FORGETTABOUTIT it's because the entire banking system is run by pedophiles so stop looking in to it.

>>510608959
genuinely retarded, botted

>>510608798
>buy bread
this nigga buys bread ! lmao
ever heard of BAKING ?
sheeesh

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

I'm sure japan have their own, it's a jcb.

>>510609193
>>510609593
High IQ posts.

>>510608959
If you genuinely believe this place is botted, you're retarded

>take out cash
>put cash into crypto atm
>buy things with anonymous crypto wallet

Visa hates this one weird trick

>>510608670
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

You were silent at best when Visa and Mastershit banned Russians over night so you have the full right to suffer now, whitey.

>>510608499 (OP)
>paying for porn

>>510608670
>What level of dystopia is this?

Clown world. The Nephilim created this hell.

>>510609122
>It's why due diligence legislation was created, so finance could profit from the assymetry in information they held over corps
Could you explain this part?

>>510608959
if you genuine botted retardedly place this

Why do people act like US vassals are capable of doing anything against the US?

>>510608499 (OP)
the payment processor jew, the one the porn illuminati built, is the single largest reason why USA or anyone, can ever ban online free porn

>>510608641
Shortsighted retard thinks the karenocracy will stop with this and they won't come for the things he likes too. How many endlessly marching social movements will it take for you to realize this shit will. never. stop?

>>510608959
yep

>>510608499 (OP)

Isn't the Japanese Consumer Economy still almost nearly an all cash/check based?

>>510608577
steam removed bitcoin because how volatile it is

>>510616933
Porn is the thin end of the wedge. It always is. It won't stop with that. They just start with that because it's the easiest way to get most people to either support the ban or not care about it.

>>510608641
Why do people expose themsels to these humiliations? Not only that, but they upload it to the internet. Why?

>>510608641
>The only one finding it amusing and laughing is a man.
Women are born, live and die bitter and delusional.

>>510619289
Note the replies
All the same, taking advantage of the spam filter put in place against "reply all" posts

>>510608573
there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets

>>510619901
Then the global economy crashes and they start whistling like no one is watching because the percentage of revenue the porn market contributed was the only thing keeping a crash from happening
Then the heads of those companies will be ousted and replaced with useful woke idiots

>>510619763
They did that at $10K