Damn is this really what people on this board simp for? Are you seriously just a bunch of dumb spiritually dead bug men?

>>510753443 (OP)
ftfy

>>510753510
He's right y'know

>>510753443 (OP)
>>510753481
>>510753510
indian donkey falls for fake quotes

>>510754166
The Doctrine of Fascism is fake?

>>510753443 (OP)
Mussomeme was just that, a meme.

>>510753443 (OP)
Hitler > Mussolini

italians are mutts

>>510754166
It's kinda funny how fascism only thrives when fascists lie hard enough about what fascism entails and convince enough dumb people to give them power. The entire neo-fascist movement exists on denying what fascist figures like Hitler and Mussolini wrote about in their own books and what happened when those ideas were put into pratice

Neonazis have literally started denying what hitler wrote about his economic policy and how it tied to conquest in main kampf. People in this thread are denying direct quotes from Mussolini

Fascism is such fucking trash that not even fascists actually like it and have to deny it and superimpose their headcanon

>>510753443 (OP)
You can share ideas with somebody and not adhere to all of them, is called not being a ideologue cultist with an open mind.
For example Mussolini was a disgusting womanizer but his revolutionary ideas are totally correct.

>>510755782
you posted a bunch of images not a source
is this your first day on the internet?

>>510756505
this anon >>510754325 gave the source

>>510753443 (OP)
Source for the quote or fuck off

>>510756694
>>510756782

>>510756694
thanks
never was a big Mussolini fan

>>510756782
>>510756505
>fascist Simpson dont even know that fascism is a statist ideology

Lmfao you cant make this shit up

>>510756848
Literally on the first page of Doctrine of Fascism

This positive conception of life is obviously
an ethical one. It invests the whole field of
reality as well as the human activities which
master it. No action is exempt from moral
judgment; no activity can be despoiled of the
value which a moral purpose confers on
all things. Therefore life, as conceived of
by the Fascist, is serious, austere, and
religious; all its manifestations are poised in
a
world sustained by moral forces and
subject to spiritual responsibilities. The
Fascist disdains an “easy” life.

Fascism, in short, is not only a law-giver and a
founder of institutions, but an educator and a
promoter of spiritual life. It aims at refashioning not
only the forms of life but their content — man, his
character, and his faith. To achieve this propose it
enforces discipline and uses authority, entering into
the soul and ruling with undisputed sway. Therefore it
has chosen as its emblem the Lictor’s rods, the
symbol of unity, strength, and justice.

>>510756987
Dont thank the guy for lying to you, if you want you can check out the paper yourself easily, none of those quotes seem to be real

https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

>>510757104
well read past the first page and you'll find this
>The Fascist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State — a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values — interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a people.
or are you going to disbelieve that again even having read it from the source yourself

>>510756991
anon, Im not italian and never read Mussolini

>>510756694
ctrl-v OP's quote into that text returns 0 results, so either post text + page or fuck off retard.

>>510757104

>uh I read the headline that's good enough for me

Fasism In a nutshell kek. now read past the first page, jack ass

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/14058/14058-h/14058-h.htm

>Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception is for the State; it is for the individual only in so far as he coincides with the State, universal consciousness and will of man in his historic existence. It is opposed to the classic Liberalism which arose out of the need of reaction against absolutism, and had accomplished its mission in history when the State itself had become transformed in the popular will and consciousness.

Liberalism denied the State in the interests of the particular individual; Fascism reaffirms the State as the only true expression of the individual.

And if liberty is to be the attribute of the real man, and not of the scarecrow invented by the individualistic Liberalism, then Fascism is for liberty. It is for the only kind of liberty that is serious—the liberty of the State and of the individual in the State. Because, for the Fascist, all is comprised in the State and nothing spiritual or human exists—much less has any value—outside the State. In this respect Fascism is a totalising concept, and the Fascist State—the unification and synthesis of every value—interprets, develops and potentiates the whole life of the people.

>>510757580
i was going to say i couldn't find that translation but op provided a source here >>510757777
last 2 sentences of section 7

>>510757376

The rights of the State as expressing the real essence
of the individual. And if liberty is to he the attribute of
living men and not of abstract dummies invented by
individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for
liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the
liberty of the State and of the individual within the
State. The Fascist conception of the State is all
embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values
can exist, much less have value. Thus understood,
Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State — a
synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values —
interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a
people.

Its wildly out of context to claim fascism is some type of materialist doctrine where you just worship the state like OP is trying to do here, the entire ideology is based on rejection of materialist ideologies such as communism and capitalism

>>510757987
That is not the text as presented in OP's quote and has a completely different meaning, are you mentally retarded, don't know how to read or both?

>>510757777
Checked, all of that is correct btw, Mussolini being gigabased, thanks for providing context instead of some fagget quote that leaves out the entire essence of whats being said by Mussolini

>>510753443 (OP)

>>510758118
i'm not making any claims about materialism or whatever
really i'm just kinda mocking you for acting as though the quote is fake
and you're clearly just coping with the fact that you got btfo

>>510758299
What "essence" did I leave out?

kek trantifa trannies jobbed to finnbro

>>510758740
>that quote isnt real
>well it is real but actually it's a good thing
>haha we totally OWNED you

Holy cope

>>510758351
You didn't post context and then btfo'd yourself by posting it, kinda amusing desu
>>510758616
You posted a quote out of context, stop pretending to be retarded, what exactly is wrong about what Mussolini says there then?

oh damn xhe's mad

Well duh. It's complete totalitarian control of every aspect of people's lives. Fascism is the opposite of limited government.

If you think you'll be able to post on 4chan bitching about the leader under a fascist system think again.

>>510755782
Who are you trying to impress? Do you think you're the first asshole to come here and make a clown of themselves? Go back to the land of your ancestors chinky-poo, whatever you are.

>>510756991
Your entire premise is BTFO'd already and you haven't even realized it yet. You are a stupid person, actually.

>>510758971
Why are you afraid tell me what "essence" you accused me of leaving out?

>>510759662
You posted a quote from a ten page script out of context like a little faggot and thought you were clever. Lets talk about the topic then, start by telling me whats wrong about the paragraph you posted here >>510757777 and I will gladly humiliate you this evening

>>510759532
>>510759589
Notice how fascists are literally incapable of defending fascism on an intellectual

The second you start putting on the pressure, they immediately retreat and start trying to hit you with personal attacks to try and indirectly undermine what you've said without having to actually address it, because they know they cant actually stand on an intellectual level and come out on top

"Thats a nice argument but you're a ...youre a Chinese person ! Yea, that's it..."

>>510759867
Why dont we start with your accusation that the quote I shared last out the essence of that he was trying to communicate?

You literally typed out the accusation and posted it, why are you suddenly not willing to stand behind what you said ?

>>510760040
>they know they cant actually stand on an intellectual level and come out on top
t. guy who posts a quote out of context from a ten page script and refuses to elaborate

>>510760198
Ok anon, why dont you tell us what did the missing context add to the quote? I've asked you this like 5 times and you've dodged it every time

>>510753443 (OP)
>>510753481
>>510753510
all of this and he still had to obey the king and the church lmao and when he was ousted he started immediately serving someone else

you guys know your "friends" laugh behind your backs, right? nobody actually thinks you're girls. all of your friends are fake you're just their useful idiots

>>510760040
leftists somehow think Musslini is some great influence on rightwing thinking
in reality most people only hear abotu him due to being allied with Hitler
noone really cares about him outside of Italy

>>510760572
Of course, trannies are an abomination. Why would you post this?

“A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.” – Deuteronomy 22:5

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female.'” – Matthew 19:4

didn't deny being a tranny earlier little guy it's too late for that. hope this helps

>>510761222
Earlier where?
So basically what you are saying is that because you lost the debate, you're just going to accuse me of being a tranny and hope that that misdirects people away from the point t which I have made?

Or are you just trying g to reframe the discussion as "anyone who is critical of fascism is a transvestite so just stop thinking critically, you dont want to be a transvestite do you?!"

Dont you think that's extremely slimy and intellectually dishonest? Why cant fascist intellectualism speak for itself without these transparent techniques to try and shut down criticisms in an underhanded way?

>>510753443 (OP)
I've almost never seen anyone give a shit about Benito's Fascism here.

>jobbed in his own shill thread
>starts crying for people to stop mentioning he's a trantifa shill
TOPKEK

>>510761931
I accept your concession

>>510761751
Well the thing is, benitos fascism IS fascism. National socialism for example is literally the exact same thing, but with "..and the state is vaguely representative of the volk" tacked on.

The entire national socialist political and economic structure is fascist corporatism as Mussolini describes it here. Everything within the state, nothing without. Nothing against. Hitler even tried to impose his own version of state operated and purged christianity to try and make religion another secular arm of the state since real spirituality exists outside of the state and is by extension in competition with it.

>>510762736
IDK, maybe. I know at least that Nazism has a racial element which makes it that much different.