>>510826489 (OP)
This makes ISW look so stupid because Russia is only aiming to take the 4 oblasts they declared in September 2022.

>>510826489 (OP)
>2022: Russia will collapse in 2 weeks
>2024: Russia will invade the Baltics, Poland, and Moldova, directly attacking NATO (but they are also collapsing and losing Moscow to Ukraine in 2 weeks)

>>510826650
>>510826801
Yeah it's a joke. Orban is right: Russia is buck broken and the notion that they will invade NATO is pure cringe fearmongering at this point.

>>510826650
That was the case for most of the war but since the 2nd round of Istanbul talks they're talking about taking more. People don't seem to understand (or are unwilling to admit) that the longer the war goes on the weaker NATO & Ukraine's positions become. It's completely absurd to expect the losing side to dictate terms.

>>510827262
It doesn't benefit NATO either. Far better to left the meatgrind go on and let Russia grow weaker and weaker.

>>510826801
>2022: Russia will collapse in 2 weeks
crazy how the characters in your head were all saying this in 2022

>>510827135
No owe fears russia, they showed the entire world what a paper tiger they are. And also disarmed them self.

>>510827615
By which metric do you think Russia is "growing weaker"?

>>510829282
I'm not going argue with you shill. It's as pointless as arguing with a woman.

THEY DO BE COMING!

>>510827262
>that the longer the war goes on the weaker NATO & Ukraine's positions become.
Russia burned through ~76-77% of gold reserves, lost 1+M of soldiers, an untold number of armoured vehicles, is spending ~40% GDP on the war effort, while not a single NATO country is even a third way to wartime economy, and even main NATO member US didn't come close to deploying/delivering any serious war-changing weapons.

All that to still hold to a few regions they captured by surprise years ago, they're stuck around for a 4th year.


You dumbfuck pidor shill cretin.

>>510829482
Of course you're not going to argue with me, you have no idea what you're talking about. Here's an article in the Spectator from two days ago: https://archive.ph/woZct
>Putin chose war over peace this spring because his spies and generals told him that Ukraine is on the brink of collapse. Alarmingly, they may be right. Ukraine is running out of fighting men, its frontline soldiers are exhausted and US military support has narrowed to focus on air defence. The Kyiv government is racked by corruption scandals and purges, public faith in their future and in their leaders is tanking and pressure to make peace at almost any price is growing.
>‘If the war continues soon there will be no Ukraine left to fight for,’ one former senior official in Zelensky’s administration tells me. They now believe their former boss is ‘prolonging the war to hold on to power’. Even once-staunch pro-Zelensky cheerleaders such as Mariia Berlinska, head of the Aerial Reconnaissance Support Centre, a prominent Ukrainian volunteer movement, express despair. ‘We are hanging over the abyss,’ Berlinska said recently. ‘Ukraine is an expendable pawn in an American game… Trump, Putin, Xi [will] spend us like small change if they need to.’
>Ukrainian morale, admirably high for much of the war, is collapsing. Back in October 2022, even after six months of violence and bloodshed, 88 per cent of Ukrainians believed that they would be a ‘flourishing country inside the EU’ within a decade. Now 47 per cent think that ‘Ukraine will be a depopulated country with a ruined economy’. A separate survey found that 70 per cent of Ukrainians also believe their leaders are using the war to enrich themselves.
Does any of that sound like it's Russia that is growing weaker?

>>510830029
tl;dr

>>510830060
Your concession is accepted

>>510830153
Congratulations on your glorious victory.

>>510826489 (OP)
Just do it Russia

>>510826489 (OP)
>Hungary allowing NATO forces to fight on Magyar soil
Biggest lmao of the whole thing. They will withdraw from nato and forbid any army from crossin its territory. Meaning the Ruskis will leave them alone and attack romania. Hungary literally only has to sit this war out and it can probably regain a shitload of its stolen territory from the "Allies"

>>510830029
Go back then you fucking subhuman

>>510830342
Go back to what? Quoting directly from the article? Okay

>Nothing is more corrosive to wartime morale than the idea that a nation’s leaders are stealing as its people fight and die. ‘Corruption kills and loses wars,’ says Kyrylo Shevchenko, a former head of Ukraine’s Central Bank, who is in exile in Austria after being charged with corruption in 2023. In recent weeks, Ukraine has been engulfed in corruption scandals. Two deputy prime ministers, minister for national unity Oleksiy Chernyshov and minister for reconstruction Oleksandr Kubrakov, have been investigated for embezzlement and treason. Zelensky has also repeatedly tried to sack Major General Kyrylo Budanov, the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, allegedly because of his growing popularity. Only pressure from the US embassy in Kyiv prevented the sacking of one of Ukraine’s most popular generals, a serving senior European diplomat with knowledge of the case tells me.

>The recent spate of arrests and searches against Zelensky loyalists suggest serious political infighting at the heart of the Kyiv government – and also a reckless readiness to take down prominent critics both inside and outside the state, regardless of how it looks to the outside world. Perhaps the most shocking of all the recent arrests is that of Vitaliy Shabunin, one of Ukraine’s most prominent anti-corruption activists, who has been charged with evading military service and fraud. Shabunin, the chair of the Anti-Corruption Action Centre executive board and a leading watchdog of military corruption, attacked the government soon after this arrest.

>>510826489 (OP)
Why wont we just invade right now?

>>510830342
He's working on this board pretty much every day. Posting the same talking points bullshit propaganda.

You're trying to talk with literally an (un)paid shill for the orc state.
It's like arguing with crackhead niggers about the economy.

>>510830537
tl;dr

>>510829888
checked

i hope you appreciate that we actively helping to secure the eastern EU border with men and supply!

https://oafnation.com/blogs/news/lithuania-starts-building-base-for-german-troops-near-russian-border?gad_source=5
https://jfcbs.nato.int/page5964943/2025/fortifying-natos-northeastern-flank-the-strategic-role-of-germanys-45th-armoured-brigade-in-lithuania
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-deploys-troops-on-natos-eastern-flank/a-72625201
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/22/chancellor-merz-inaugurates-german-brigade-in-lithuania-to-strengthen-natos-eastern-flank

>>510830590
>At the same time, the administration has blocked the appointment of a new independent head of the Bureau of Economic Security, a powerful law enforcement agency with an uncomfortable track record of prosecuting Zelensky’s political opponents.

>‘Ukraine has two enemies, two Vladimirs: Zelensky and Putin,’ says a former Ukrainian cabinet minister, once a strong Zelensky supporter. ‘Putin is destroying Ukraine from [the] outside, but Zelensky is destroying it from within by destroying its will to fight and its morale. Human rights are being trampled on, there is pressure against political opponents, rich and influential people who could support opposition are being expropriated and opposition media is silenced. And the irony is that this Putinification of Ukraine is being funded by the West.’

>Under the terms of a wartime state of emergency, more than 5,000 Ukrainians have come under sanctions and had their property frozen. The measure, first invented to prevent Russia-connected politicians, media groups and oligarchs from influencing Ukrainian politics, is now widely used to silence opponents of the regime, say critics, as well as to police the media. ‘Sanctions have led to the closure of three YouTube channels belonging to Zelensky’s critics in the past month,’ says Shevchenko. ‘Censorship often shields authoritarian leaders, and unchecked power breeds dictatorship.’

>>510830029
>Putin chose war over peace this spring because his spies and generals told him that Ukraine is on the brink of collapse
didn't the same "generals and spies" tell him in 2022 that he could take keeiif-in-3 days and Ukrainians will welcome his puppet replacement for Zelensky?
pootin literally has till September to show any progress and so far it's been negligent, two months into his summer campaign. the russian economy is in the toilet be every metric, the many industries are collapsing, the inflation is out of control, the military is losing low to mid level experienced commanding officers at irreplaceable rates ... they lost at least 12 generals so far! in a special military operation not a war!

>>510830767
tl;dr

>>510826489 (OP)
>april 2024
bro it's fucking july
of 2025

>russia is going to attack nato

Lol. Lmao, even

>>510831045
>russia is going to invade Crimea
2013: lmao
>russia is going to attack Ukraine
2022: lmao, these are just military exercises etc.

pootin is a desperate liar

>>510831045
not on our watch thats for sure !!
>we are loyal and everybody knows !!

https://gagadget.com/en/270544-germany-deploys-first-mim-104-patriot-air-defence-system-in-vilnius-to-defend-nato-summit

https://essanews.com/german-armored-battalion-in-lithuania-to-receive-the-best-equipment,6966903374493313a

>>510830883
>didn't the same "generals and spies" tell him in 2022 that he could take keeiif-in-3 days
Did they? Pretty sure the only military official that made that claim was Mark Milley

>Zelensky’s term of office formally expired in May last year. While many argue it’s unfeasible to hold elections in wartime, there is frustration that Zelensky has exiled key potential opponents and imprisoned and sanctioned others. ‘In May 1940 Churchill invited the leader of the opposition Attlee to be his deputy and united all of parliament in one government,’ notes opposition MP Oleksiy Goncharenko. ‘Zelensky has done the opposite, he is holding on to power by all means possible.’ Goncharenko sparked controversy by comparing Zelensky to Kim Jong-un and Ukraine to North Korea.

>Meanwhile, resentment, resistance and anger are rising at aggressive measures taken by the authorities to press-gang military-age men into the army – a process known as ‘busification’. Unlike the Russian army, which is made up of contract soldiers, Ukraine has instituted full mobilisation of men over 26 not engaged in vital civilian work.

>Ukraine’s social media is filled with daily videos of men being bundled into vans by recruitment officers, sometimes at gunpoint. Yet many of those forcibly recruited seem to have little desire to fight. In the first six months of this year, Ukraine’s Prosecutor’s Office reported that it had opened 107,672 new criminal cases for desertion. Since 2022 some 230,804 such criminal cases have been instigated, suggesting that more soldiers have deserted the Ukrainian army than there are fighting men in today’s British, French and German armies combined.

More deserters than there are fighting men in the British, French, and German armies combined? That sounds like a lot!

>>510826489 (OP)
but they are forced to invade. the longer the war keeps going, the bigger the risk of collapse for them. they will have to break the encirclement. they will only have to invade neighbouring countries (poland, western ukraine, romania) and create a buffer between them and nato

>>510830544
Because not all Russians are weak clingy immature teens who can’t manage their own life without their parents.

>>510830376
>stolen
gtfo magyar boy. vast majority of the population living in those lands is and was always romanian and so it shall remain

>>510831801
What collapse? The encirclement from whom? Are we discussing the same war?

>Those who remain at the front are exhausted. Mobilised Ukrainian soldiers serve until the end of hostilities, meaning that some have been fighting continuously for three-and-a-half years. A draft law releasing military personnel from service after 36 months was squashed by the government last year for fear that the retiring personnel could not be replaced. No men aged 18 to 60 have been allowed to leave the country since February 2022 without special permission.

>Many Zelensky allies fear that they could be prosecuted or exiled if they leave power
Since the Russian invasion, more than 6.8 million Ukrainians have fled the country, with a further eight million internally displaced. That’s equivalent to 40 per cent of its working-age population. Runaway inflation is impoverishing ever-larger swathes of the country. Today 8.8 million people in Ukraine are living below the poverty line, up from six million before the war.

>Last week governments and businesses gathered in Rome for the third annual Ukraine Recovery Conference. The centrepiece of the conference was meant to be the unveiling of a multibillion-dollar Ukraine recovery fund that US investment giant BlackRock has been working on since 2022. But earlier this year BlackRock announced that it was shuttering the fund ‘due to a lack of interest’. Germany’s Friedrich Merz, Italy’s Giorgia Meloni and Poland’s Donald Tusk were there to make the usual pledges of support. Yet in terms of concrete aid, the EU was able to rustle up just €2.3 billion – just a drop in the bucket compared with the World Bank’s estimate of $524 billion to restore Ukraine’s infrastructure.

>>510831417
Someone post the webm, mine has audio

>>510831417

>>510832339
Why always the same webm of some literal who on TV and never a direct quote from a Russian military official? I can prove Milley said it, here: https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources

>‘All of the political elite understands that Ukraine needs a new system of government to stabilise [the] situation,’ says the former Zelensky cabinet minister. ‘People want to stop living in fear. But instead of asking how to help a transition of power in Ukraine, the EU is closing its eyes.’ Many of Zelensky allies, including some of the country’s top ministers, fear that they could be prosecuted or exiled if they leave power. Zelensky’s team have ‘made many enemies’ in Ukraine’s political class, explains a senior European diplomat who attended the Rome conference. ‘They fear that their future is exile, or jail’ – which, in turn, only increases the ‘temptation to line their pockets while they can’.

>Trump’s newly announced Patriot package is welcome news. So are Europe’s continued promises of unwavering support. But none of Ukraine’s allies can really help with the country’s chronic manpower shortage or with the deepening crisis of legitimacy that Zelensky faces. Most worrying of all, no outsiders can reverse the spiral of arrests of former regime loyalists, crackdown on opposition members and shutdown of media outlets that are doing so much to erode Ukrainians’ faith in the war effort and in Zelensky’s leadership.

>>510831417
Nigger, Putin made similar claim publicly so did his Kremlin stooges and propagandists but you will memoryhole this for sure.

>>510831417

People are waiting, but they're still not coming. With cuts to military spending... some folks start to fear they might not come.

Do they need a Kickstarter, Gofundme? Maybe free trains and trucks like in WW2?

>>510832599
It's always "Putin said this, his generals said that," but in the end it's always the same fucking webm of some woman on TV. I've given you actual proof from a US news source that Milley is the source of that claim>>510831417
>>510832922
My eyes must be getting bad in my old age, could you please link directly to the article that screencap purports to be from so I can search for the part where "generals and spies" are "tell[ing] him in 2022 that he could take keeiif-in-3 days"?

>>510832069
nigger you don't understand the realities on the ground. you are somewhere in bumfuck canada and think you know what's up in this part of the world. stfu

>>510826489 (OP)
But it's now july and nothing happened. Did we already win? Those ruskies really need to get their shit together

>>510833085
key is to stay strong together!
speak with one hard voice and dont argue with each other over nothing!

>>510833255
are you gay or something? its plainly obvious the entire operation was designed to flood ukraine in 2 weeks. there was no plan B. the myth that russia could be in "paris in 2 weeks" etc is older than you faggot. its a super old russian narrative throughout the entire cold war they have always been saying that shit.

Seems like they put the bots on stop for like 5days then revived them

>>510826650
>believing Russia
Xdddddddddddddddd

>>510833255
>link directly to the article ... so I can search for the part where "generals and spies"
Why, you don't believe the words of pootin himself? You need the words of some "generals and spies" over his pronouncements? The authenticity of this conversation was indeed confirmed by the Kremlin, when they backtracked pootin's rhetoric by "his words were taken out f context", "he didn't threaten to attack keeiiff"
https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/putin-russian-forces-could-conquer-ukraine-capital-kiev-fortnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_RReQj7PpY

https://russian.rt.com/article/48104

>>510826489 (OP)
Russia is afraid of NATO. Mostly America. But look what America did to Iran. You think Russia can stop American stealth technology? Ukraine bombs Russia 1500 miles deep inside their borders using planes from 1935. Russia is defenseless against American tech and they know it. The only reason russia exists is their nuclear retaliation arsenal.

I'm sorry, but the very notion of Russia invading EU is just... detached from reality. The concept is preposterous and i cannot imagine an intelligent person taking it seriously.

>>510827135
everybody who isn't a complete retard knows Russia won't attack HATO
it's just an excuse to transform the EU into even more of a globohomo NWO nightmare project than it already is

>>510826489 (OP)
> Can't win in the poorest "eu" country
> We'll invade the rest
Yeah sure faggot

>>510826650
That was true a year ago. Back then the Russians also said that Ukraine will never get such favorable peace terms again. The Western reaction was to demand a Russian capitulation. As if the loser of a war could make demands. Half a year or so ago the Russians declared that they're also aiming for Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk. Lately they even expanded their claims to anything except Lemberg.

I think it would be a strategic mistake to needlessly and uselessly hand over Lemberg to NATO. Keeping the province give Russia a direct border with Hungary, which allows the establishment of a Eurasian transport corridor from the Indopacific region into the heart of Europe. EU and NATO could no longer threaten Hungary, Serbia and all their neighbors with hunger blockades, because China and Russia could easily supply those countries with food and weapons over land.

>>510827262
What chutzpah. Jews are known for their arrogance.

>>510833992
ok but dont brag about it
>>510834087
hard to think that they will do it

>>510834130
>The Western reaction was to demand a Russian capitulation.
it's all in your delusional mind, pidrila. pootin can stop the war anytime by fucking off within 1991 internationally recognized borders, confirmed by 2 treaties signed by russia ... one of which he signed personally in 2003. How's that a "capitulation"?

>>510834130
>Lemberg ... border with Hungary
you ARE a retard, aren't you, pidor?

>>510826489 (OP)
>iran x pissrael happening is over
>NAFO discord is back at astroturfing /pol/ with muh ruzzia
topkek, but that was predictable
/pol/, lets remember the list of things our totally organic reddit/discord colony (r/uhg) claimed about ruzzia that never became a reality

>russia economy will collapse in two more weeks (2022~2023)
>sanctions will save ukranda and collapse ruzzia (2022~2023)
>ghost of queer obliterating ziggers in the skies, 6 gorillion dead ziggers
>okay, maybe the ghost of queer wasn't real
>russia will run out of missiles two more weeks
>putin controls entire west by creating white replacement with niggers thats why its unpatriotic to not fight for your treacheous goverments controlled by putin and which would make sure you are dead to replace you exactly as putin planned
>russians are fighting with shovels lol
>shoigu is fucking dead, he has not been in the media for months now
>okay, maybe shoigu wasn't dead
>russians are dying so quickly they are burning their own dead
>russians are being pressed into meatcubes for some reason
>we killed the whole VDV lmao
>okay, maybe not the whole VDV
>soledar is still standing
>bakhmut is still standing
>we don't need bakhmut anyways
>3 days to kiev? lol you are winning too slowly!
>okay, maybe "3 days to kiev" was bullshit we made up, but you're still winning too slowly
>lol we destroyed the WHOLE black sea fleet
>okay actually it wasn't the whole black sea fleet
>NAFO training will save ukranda
>counter offensive is going totally well, russians are almost collapsing, crimea beach party by late 2023
>okay, maybe the counter offensive was a huge failure, but we captured crimea (purely psychologically of course)
>russia destroyed its own pipelines lmao
>okay, maybe they didn't destroy their own pipelines, but that's still a win for ukranda
>abrams, challengers, leopards will save ukranda
>MUTTCMS and stormshadow the hedgehog will save ukranda
>f-16 will save ukranda (I swear it's real this time)

1/3

>>510833255
>prooooofs
>proof provided
>next thread
>prooooofs
Nigger

>russia economy will collapse in two more weeks (2024)
>sanctions will save ukranda and collapse ruzzia (2024)
>russia lost 666 quintillion ziggers
>despite losing 666 quintillion ziggers, there's no video of ziggers getting drafted because they are poor and don't have phones
>all those videos of hohols getting drafted are just isolated cases, hohols are rich and they have phones
>ruZZians stopped attacking our civilian buildings with S-300 missiles in ground attack mode the same day we ran out of S-300 missiles for our AD (it's just a coincidence goyim)
>lol we destroyed 40% of russia's air fleet, it's over
>okay, actually it was only 10 or 12
>okay, actually we can't even tell how many we destroyed because some of them were mothballed
>we killed 6 gorillion ziggers
>okay, we don't have any corpse for bodies exchange despite the fact we killed 6 gorillion ziggers
>okay, all those 40k hohols corpses are actually ziggers, trust me bro
>okay, we can't recapture any lost territory despite the fact we have a 60:1 K:D advantage (don't ask questions, it's anti-semitic)
>we captured kursk and killed 6 gorillions of north koreans
>okay, despite the fact we killed 6 gorillions of north koreans in kursk we lost the whole kursk in the span of a few days for some reason
>okay, maybe we didn't kill 6 gorillions of north korean, but we are winning
>okay, we opened a new front and lost approx 60k hohols and 7k pieces of armor, but we are winning (probably)
>o-okay, we are losing sumy now, but we are still winning (I-I fucking swear, plz send moar patriots)
>operation spider-web 2.0, 6 million tanks destroyed, so many trains destroyed
>okay, maybe spider-web 2.0 was fake bullshit made by telegram channels
>sergei kobilaš is fucking dead, accidentally fell out of a window
>okay, maybe sergei is not dead

2/3

>russia economy will collapse in two more weeks (2025)
>sanctions will save ukranda and collapse ruzzia (2025)
>may 9th victory parade was cancelled, putler hiding in his bunker
>we are going to bomb victory parade if he does one
>russians will run out of drones in two weeks
>two more weeks and they will run out of drones
>IRAN IS NOT SUPPLYING RUSSIA ANYMORE, THEY WILL RUN OUT OF DRONES THIS TIME, IT'S FUCKING REAL THIS TIME (it wasn't real)
>russia stands with jews
>okay, even if russia stands with jews, russia loses when israel wins for some reason
>okay, maybe zelensky is a literal kike, but ukraine is based and russia is jew for some reason
>russia is importing 1 million of jeets, russia is nigger and woke lol
>okay, maybe the 1 million of jeets was a lie, but russia is still nigger and woke
>1 million dead ziggers lmao
>okay, actually it was just 200k, but it's real this time (would I ever lie?)

3/3

feel free to add anything missing
no need to thank me for this compilation
I do it for free

and always remember to tell them to go back to their discord and their safe-space subreddit (r/kuckmmando)

>>510833959
>ctrl+f
>'3 days'
>0 results
Well that's odd, why are we talking about 2 weeks now?
>The authenticity of this conversation was indeed confirmed by the Kremlin
Notice how you picked the words "authenticity of this conversation" not "authenticity of the words"? You did that because you couldn't claim the latter, it's just Barroso's word for it.

José Manuel Barroso once claimed in 2014 that Putin said he could take Kiev in two weeks.

That's it, that's the whole claim, and it's what each of the sources you posted are basing their claims on, even the Korean one. That's very different that "Putin's spies and generals said that he could take Kiev in 3 days," isn't it?

>>510826489 (OP)
>le ISW
Cute map. I can play with crayons too.

>>510833783
Plan B is literally being enacted right now. You're looking at it with your own eyes and you're claiming it's not there. Yes, having Ukraine agree to a settlement within a month or two which was plan A would have been infinitely better than demilitarizing Ukraine through combat, but saying the latter isn't plan B is delusional.

>>510835211
>authenticity of the words
nitpicking pidrila, here you go, those exact words were said by pootin, as confirmed by his aid Ushakov.

"Ushakov: Putin's words about taking Kyiv in two weeks were taken out of context.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's words about Russia being able to take Kiev in two weeks were taken out of context and had a completely different meaning. This was stated by the Russian head of state's aide Yuri Ushakov, as reported by ITAR-TASS."

"Ушaкoв: Cлoвa Пyтинa o взятии Киeвa зa двe нeдeли были выpвaны из кoнтeкcтa.

Cлoвa пpeзидeнтa PФ Bлaдимиpa Пyтинa o тoм, чтo Poccия мoжeт взять Киeв зa двe нeдeли, были выpвaны из кoнтeкcтa и имeли coвepшeннo дpyгoй cмыcл. Oб этoм, кaк cooбщaeт ИTAP-TACC, зaявил пoмoщник глaвы poccийcкoгo гocyдapcтвa Юpий Ушaкoв."

https://russian.rt.com/article/48104

>>510835211
>very different that "Putin's spies and generals said that he could take Kiev in 3 days," isn't it?

not at all, pootin was just as delusional in 2022 as he was in 2014, that he could easily take keeiiff in a very short period of time with no to minimal losses. What did the KGB genius base his beliefs on? obviously he didn't survey all the data himself, obviously his spies and generals told him that, you moron. After having spent billions of dollars on his puppets like Yanukovych and Medvedchuk, his assets in all levels of the Ukrainian government pre-2014 he believed that.

>>510829652
https://youtu.be/CVCaSBawDpc

>>510826489 (OP)
Russia will take Donbass + Luhansk and some change. The rest will get dumped in the EU's lap to fill with jeets and africans under jewish management.

>>510836894
ok so what

>>510837096
Don't really care desu. Not my problem except for all the money printer bullshit to pay for it.

>>510835211
>That's it, that's the whole claim, and it's what each of the sources you posted are basing their claims on
you wanna know something funny?
do you want to know the source of the infamous 1 milion dead ziggers?
it's the armed forces of ukranda on twitter
the same account that claims they have a 90% interception rate and they shot down every kinzhal ever fired

they simply add a random number between 1000~1500 every day, and twitterfags pretend this is a valid source of info

>>510835935
If you're right and I'm wrong, why is it that I can type 'mark milley 3 days to kiev' into google and boom, first result, Feb 5 2022:
>Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine takes place, multiple congressional sources tell Fox News.
while you overheat all 70 of your IQ points trying to find a single source that actually says that and the best you can come up with is
>José Manuel Barroso once claimed in 2014 that Putin totally said he could take Kiev in two weeks.
I'm not playing the machine translation game again, since you're pretending to be American why don't we stick to English sources?

>>510826489 (OP)
>oh noooo, shithole countries that haven’t contributed anything useful in their 30 years of independence will be assimilated again!!!
literally who gives a shit

>>510826489 (OP)
NOTHING
EVER
HAPPENS

>>510837255
Debating casualty claims is a waste of time, it will be years after the war is over before we get accurate figures and by then the point will be moot. MediaZona was the only organisation giving serious effort to tracking Russian casualties and they gave up and changed their methodology from tracking confirmed to "projected" casualties sometime last year, IIRC.

To be honest I don't care for Zelensky's jewish regime or nazi parody Azov and I hate NATO, but supporting Russia is impossible because the Z fanclub is overwhelmingly browns and neo-stalinists outside of this place. In general though I'm just happy that eastern slavs are killing each other.

>>510829888
how did invading iraq all at once turn out retard? or afghanistan for that matter? should russia have invaded all of ukraine in the first few weeks only to spend the next decade fighting a well armed insurgency?

>>510837646
>w-we didnt want to conquer ukraine as quickly as possible
this is advanced coping

>>510826650

>>510837603
>Debating casualty claims is a waste of time, it will be years after the war is over before we get accurate figures
agreed

>>510826489 (OP)
bruh

>>510837603
>>Debating casualty claims is a waste of time
I'll trust US intelligece which knew about Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 before either Ukraine or Russia did.

>>510837988
You can trust whoever you want, it doesn't matter, the figures are what they are, arguing about it doesn't change them. FWIW Massie says US intelligence doesn't know shit, they just repeat whatever the Ukrainians tell them.

>>510826489 (OP)
When will Putin liberate us from NATO oppression?

>>510838155
That's not what he said in the statecraft article, shitskinned pajeet.

>>510838155
>>510838301
Also, what he WAS saying that no one knows the ukranian casualty numbers if just flat out wrong. They were in the discord leaks from the intelligence guy, if you remember. So basically both you and Massey are fuckming retarded.

>>510833909
not even poland wants lyiv

>>510838301
>So then a few months later, I'm in the Speaker's office, and I asked the Speaker if he knew the number of casualties in Ukraine? He began telling me how many Russian casualties there were. I said, Do you know how many Ukrainian casualties there are? And he said, No. I said, Have they ever told you? And he said, No. I said, Have you ever asked? He said, I should ask. So the Speaker of the House doesn't even know. Didn't even know at the time how many casualties there were. And if you ask, for instance, an AI assistant, how many Ukrainian casualties there are, even the AI assistants here in our country can't tell you how many. At the time when I drafted this, AIs came up with wildly different numbers because they're relying on everything that's been published. And there's virtually nothing reliable that's been published.
>>510838574
>that's not what he said
>actually what he said doesn't matter anyway
Don't trip backtracking that hard, fat boy

>>510838667
Yes, again, that's not what you implied he said.
>they get the casualty numbers from Ukraine
Dumb shitskinned street shitter.
>don't be backtracking
There's no backtracking here, street shitter. You can go look up the casualty numbers on the /pol/ archive from Thug Shaker Central. There's two versions though, the original version and the photoshop that coping subhumans like you made where you literally switched it.

>>510826489 (OP)
Russia would lose ukraine instantly because if they invade the Baltics then there's an immediate 2000 jet no fly zone over their whole country and their AD is dismantled within a week and Moscow bombed to shit in a month

>>510834731
Try to put yourself into the perspective of a person without crippling mental diseases, and then read your post again. Maybe you can figure it out yourself.