Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?

neegar

>>510907525 (OP)
because most people have forgot what it was like to be young and yearning for adulthood, so naturally the first stage is the best

>>510907525 (OP)
When you consider that a 40 year old male has less than half of the T they had at 20 it becomes quite clear that he is on Clem or Tren or whatever chem cocktail it is. Which is totally fine. I believe that T and steroids etc should be over the counter for over 40.

Women would find the first body the most attractive

>>510907525 (OP)
This guy has been juicing leading up to 40, his balls are shrunk and he can't produce his own test anymore. He's ngmi

>>510907777
who cares what women find attractive beside virgin incels (like me, but still)

>>510907733
Dude is most definitely on steroids but u can counter acts natual T loss by no fap which increases test by 45 percent according g to the study. Also 9 hours of sleep and ass fed organic steaks. Lots of other stuff


Also, stfu zoomie, at 40 men have 80-90 percent testosterone left lmao. U are coping hard

>>510907965
This

>>510907965
This

>>510907965
If he's under 6'0 all pics are achievable natty. If over then ye he's probably juicing


Even with less muscles a 40 year old has a better face, more money and more game..

>>510907777
Digits. But fuck women's opinions

>>510907525 (OP)
He started to juice in his mid to late 30s, 2nd is probably near his natty limit.

>>510908063
>>510908070
If u really think u need juice to achieve the picture on the left then u are dysengenic as fuck

>>510907525 (OP)
I liked myself the most when i was in my mid 20s.

>>510907777
/thread

>>510907525 (OP)
why does he look late 50 at 40?

He’s 40 and his hair and beard are totally white ? Lol

>>510908170
I look better at almost 31 then I did in my 20s, more energy, more strength and more muscles. Definitely way more money. Give me one reason an 18 year old woupdnt want to fuck me besides my personality?

He would have more success with the body of pic 1 and if he just dyed his hair

>>510908297
That's why I will never do test

every zoomer I see is some underfed lanklet or skittish manlet so I don't know what you even mean. None of them are in shape or believing anything, they stare at their smurfs village phone app and dont look both ways before crossing a street. Are zoomers working out and I just wasn't aware? Every young person I see is either some dysgenic shade of brown or a completely defeated before they lived white person. I don't see whatever it is you are talking about.

>>510908297
Also the third pic At 40 has his face conspicuously obscured, so obviously he has aged like shit, likely from roids

>>510908186
He's on the gear in the 40 photo only, which is what was said, you retarded nigger

>>510908051

>>510908051
I'm 31 and my testosterone is still high as fuck and I still get rock hard just from seeing a teenage girl's midriff. I also have a huge penis.

I believe some of us are largely immune from testosterone loss.

>>510907525 (OP)
>that trap
20 years of roids is going to cause a heart failure

>>510908317
In theory I agree but in reality women in the West are against relationships that look unequal. Unless the return for breaking the rules is dramatical I doubt they do it.

>>510907525 (OP)
Its well known that normally men peak in their 30s, we're just genetically fucked from the frog chemicals and plastics, overworked and stressed with zero hope or future, so we're reaching the bad parts in our mid 20s. I haven't felt young since I was a teenager. In 10 years I'll be 20 years older, I blame everyone who believes in current thing.

>>510908439
I trust chat gtp over ur stupid graph. Let me guess, chat gtp is wrong and ur graph is right beacuse of ur feelings?

>>510908051
Old men trying to act like they're not past their prime is my favorite thing about this board, most of you are obviously virgins too

>>510907525 (OP)
L to R:
Natty, Test, Tren
20+ years of consistently increasing dosages

>>510908317
Decent physique but did you take that picture at your grandmas house?

>>510908540
Ur on crack. As a man why woild u even want this narrative to be true? U want to cash in all ur fun points in ur 20s and spend the rest of ur life a ghost? U realize with medical breakthroughs we will look 40 when we are 70 right?

>>510908051
The only reason you're showing higher testosterone relative to your age than one would expect is because of the
improperly used intravenous cholesterol from your goyslop meme diets. This is why boomers get massive abdomens and become retarded.

>>510908548
>I trust chat gtp
And you called me a zoomer. STFU and sit down kid. Do some independent research faggot.

>>510908665
Mums house, I pay her mortgage

>>510907525 (OP)
only people obsessed with how they look care. bodybuilders are notorious for having low self-esteem.

>>510907525 (OP)

15-25 are the years you can mercilessly best the ever living fuck out of your body and get away with it. Drinking, drugging, roiding, 80+hr work weeks, fucking for hours etc etc. testosterone production naturally drops significantly around 30 and keeps dropping every year until around 45. The average 45yo man isn't healthy, fertile, virile or energetic. TRT caused turbo-cancer...so just be happy with being old.

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?
because zoomers, for some reason, are aging like shit.

>>510908668
Shut up, jewish faggot.

>>510908715
As opposed to this random graph? U zoomies are rabid. U want revenge on the world for making u a zoomie, i get it. Now excuse me while I go fuck teenagers(18, 19)

>>510908317
looking good man, keep it up

>>510908745
It drops only 1 percent a year and u can just go on no fap and increase it by 45 percent

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?
they are extremely suicidal and they straight up can't imagine living for another decade.

zoomers are in their early 20s and have grown up on the internet, they are under the weird impression that talking shit online=manifesting it in reality.

>>510908317
You look like a toilet cleaner.

>>510907525 (OP)
Natty
Natty
Roids

>>510908794
Not even my final form, I started going for 2 hours a day this week. No fap has me geeked up

>>510908745
>TRT caused turbo-cancer...so just be happy with being old.
Completely retarded take. It does not. What does cause cancer is bodybuilders who cross-use it with tons of other stuff and then single in on the one chemical they obtained legally. Same shit with finasteride.

>>510907733
The average natty 40yo millennial typically has a higher testosterone level than an average 20yo Zoomer. Gen Z has been exposed to an insane amount of artificial hormones and feminizing chemicals since before they were born.
Anogenital distance is significantly shorter in Gen Z than in prior generations, a strong indicator of feminization.

>>510907525 (OP)
Actually I was surprised by that pic happening to me. I got absolutely shredded in my 20s, better than that guy in the pic. After coasting on that in my 30s and getting soft, I did a big push just before 40 to see if I could get it back. It took like only 4 months and I was way more jacked than I had ever been in my 20s. All natty every time. I still think my 20s self would have easily killed me though. You have no fear of injury at all when you're younger because you can sleep and wake up fine. Parkour and shit is definitely out of the question at 40.

>>510908827

Semen retention doesn't increase free or total test. It's a meme, and you should be cumming in pussy during your fertile years. What's the hangup with being normal and having kids?

>>510907525 (OP)
Guys around 35-45 are the sexiest, unless you look twinky around your early to mid 20s, then that's cool too

>>510908831
Zoomers have nothing going for them so they artificially try to heighten the importance of youth in order to gain some leverage. Expect many of them to rope once they realize that for men the only thing that pays off is actual performance and being bold.

>>510907525 (OP)
these old buddy doesn't show his head and hair. probably getting bald too early. who would listen to early aging bald guy with complexes

>>510908876
/thread

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?
Because they are at that young and dumb phase where they think they will be 25 forever
After you turn 30 you realize time fucking flies and instead you start preparing for the inevitable 40, 50, 60
But at 21 you think you'll forever be in your 20s

>>510908051
>ass fed organic steaks

>>510907733
There is a difference between a healthy fit 40 and a worthless fat fuck 40 that has been sedentary and eating goyslop his entire life.

>>510908886

Don't make me repeat myself...

>>510908962
Based on what? Ur hunch? Theres an actual study disproving you

>>510907525 (OP)
Because women are mad. Men don't really have an expiration date like women. There are fuckable 60 year old men.

>>510908928
Its by far the other way around. Nillenials were fed phytoestrogens like a motherfucker, we're pushed raw meat and shit. I don't think gen z has lower testosterone, outside of specific behavioural influences which are culturally universal now, I think we're otherwise sickly, hormones arent the be all end all of biology and psychology.

>>510908886
Well TRT is pretty new, at least at this scale. It's like the vaxx, we'll find out

>>510909040
You are the same kind of dishonest tard who pushes anti-finasteride narratives when being bald for most men is a path towards irrelevance

>>510908962
I m a tithound.

>>510907525 (OP)
Lmfao these gymcels are retarded. They destroy their body and convince others to do the same

>>510908790
You could have cut out the chatgpt middleman and quoted the wikipedia it pull it's data from.

>>510909100
Testosterone is probably the least bad stuff these people use. It is like the usual drug user blaming tobacco companies after smoking meth for years.

> You guys gave me lung cancer

>>510909149
Irrelevance in what sence, you fucking woman? Who gives a shit what men look like if they're hygienic and well presented?

>>510907525 (OP)
because zoomers are early-mid 20?

>>510907777
>Women would find the first body the most attractive
Irrelevant because the 40yo is actually going to make the first move and hit on her and escalate sexually with her, while the 20yo is going to avoid even making eye contact with her because he has been completely indoctrinated with #metoo toxic masculinity rape culture affirmative consent nonsense, and can't have a face to face conversation with a stranger without having a panic attack because he grew up with his face glued to a screen consooming brainrot. Physical appearance is completely irrelevant because Zoomers make older guys seem like rich, confident, charismatic hypermasculine Chads in comparison.
The majority of Gen Z males are single, sexless, incel virgins while every 30+ millennial who actually has his shit together in life has a harem of cute Zoomettes he is fucking.

>>510907525 (OP)

Look at the pictures: he looks better in the first one. Last one looks old and try hard.

>>510907525 (OP)
Because he's not 30 yet. Wait until 2030 when the 2000s Zoomers turn 30 and you'll see wild copium and TikToks that they're still young. Aging for Zoomers will be horrific because they think they'll never age.

>>510908668
>As a man why woild u even want this narrative to be true?
Again they are so young and stupid and totally lacking perspective that they honestly believe they will forever be in their 20s
For a 21yo turning 30 seems literally an eternity away
For them it's like someone telling you to worry about shit that will happen in your mid 80s

>>510909048

Evidence suggests that ejaculation frequency may be inversely related to the risk of prostate cancer. You're free to die, I'd prefer less stupid people to reproduce desu senpai.

>>510909149

Just be old, unless you've got Peter Pan syndrome and need that FUE surgery to LARP as fertile/youthful.

>>510909156

K

>>510909094
You lost touch with reality, dieting habits haven't changed in the people who are 20-30 something. These fad diets are only being followed by a small minority, just like only a small minority goes to gym, counts calories and so on

>>510909273
Baldness completely ruins your chances with younger women, you can be considering yourself happy if you can get a woman your age if you are bald.

>>510908886
TRT would be recommended to the basedobys. It isnt that much what you vote for but rather the i dunno swag.
Finasteride is a dht blocker. I dont know much about that but libiido is tied to estrogen free testosterone and dht but maybe i m wrong probnably doesnt impact them that much. They just should be baldies and you can tap them for good luck.

>>510908928
>>510909306

i think you old guys talk like this because you know its over and the "zoomettes" you get are the ugliest out of the age group, likely fat too.

>>510909094
When he was 20 he probably ate chips and burgers and pizza whenever he wanted to and at 40 he weighs and measures everything and most likely lives on rice, broccoli and skinless chicken breast.

HAHAHAHAHA so many gymcels coping here

>>510909407
You are simply a retarded mutt. Go and be happy with a totally ran through trashback of a woman who probably had 10 niggers before you. That is how you faggots are on this entire site.

>>510909424
Society changes, men aren't needed as much for provider status as much as they used to so being bald isn't an option for most men. Unless you are a passport bro going for Asian women it is worth having it fixed.

>>510909327
This 100%

>>510909327
>they think they'll never age.
They won't get to complete any of the markers of aging. No college. No wife. No kids. No house. They'll just be 30 year old adolescents.

>>510909248
Or I can just shove my face into ur ass to see ur source

>>510909662
You forgot no friends and no car, they don't drive.

>>510908550
There have been 40 year old MMA champions and George Foreman was a World Heavyweight Boxing Champion at 46.

>>510909408
I want to own a stable full of young juicy fehus. I m also a cowfarmer from india.

>>510907525 (OP)

>>510909407
Have u actually looked into to what extra percent u will get ass cancer if u dont jack off? U can do kegels and it will promote blood flow to ur prostate just like jacking off. The cope is off the charts>>510909407

>>510907525 (OP)
They fell for the age gap meme gaslit by Jews & feminists

>>510909759
Bench press you saggy chested nigga.

>>510909759
Don't go bald then if you don't want to passport bro in shithole countries. Otherwise you will need finasteride or a hair transplant

>>510909637
I m not sure if i can run really fast but i can certainly snatch a fehu. I would put it in a bag like a cat, struggling and fighting and then i would explain to it that this is the for the best of us if i can just can coooom und its udders. Then i hand her a spoon. A really nice spoon.

>>510909637

Insulting me isn't unfucking your shit dude. Fantasizing about my life only makes you look upset. We don't know anything about one another. Just enjoy your middle life and stop chasing the unobtainable. Clearly if it was obtainable for you you wouldn't be crying this much about as much as you've been crying about.

>>510909576
U would prefer to be a weak pretty boy that a thick based boy? Ur entire existence revolves around barely pubescent women's approval?

>>510907525 (OP)
Old guys that look like that get doctor prescribed testosterone therapy.

>>510907733
>that a 40 year old male has less than half of the T they had at 20

Bullshit bro science.
In fact, Testosterone levels only start to significantly drop around 50 years old.

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?

because thats when you lose the last baby fat and come into manhood fully, and since the most of the older guys who could guide them through this process are pudgy millenial soibois or decrepit boomers, they try to figure it out on their own.
Most older guys are sedentary 9-5 office drones who barely see sunlight and/or pussy, and accordingly look like the basement growths they are.

>>510909576
Many women actually prefer the man on the right.

>>510909900
I am not that old yet but I see the writing on the wall for the people who don't do what I have identified as the correct modus operandi. You giving this bad mediocre advice is the kind of cope into passivity nobody needs. Kill yourself

>>510909851
Bench is my best lift. Never had big tiddies my shoulders do all the work.

>>510909728
>Or I can just shove my face into ur ass
>shove my face
>into ur ass
funking retard.

>>510909953
Women from countries who are shitholes do, in Western countries they don't. This self-defense aspect is very attractive to Arab women and niggers.

>>510907525 (OP)
What's even more pathetic if that modern day masculinity has been boiled down to body building. Bunch of absolute faggots. You think Adolf Hitler gave a fuck about his "physique"?

>>510909094
>we're pushed raw meat and shit
Only relatively recently. Gen Z spent their formative years consooming massive amounts of feminizing onions goyslop. Millennials growing up in the '80s and '90s before food was completely pozzed.
Gen X got fucked by smoking and dark tans and lead gas and lead paint and pollution. Zoomers got fucked by microplastics and forever chemicals and birth control hormones in drinking water and tide pods and whatever chemical is in the vapes that makes them all retarded. Millennials were lucky to be born in the sweet spot when everyone knew that smoking was bad, the sun gives you skin cancer, fitness is good, unleaded gas, rivers aren't catching on fire anymore, etc.

>>510909953
Give that heroine junkie 40lbs of muscle and the guy on the right will look like a door knob.

>>510910080
Be the big guy on the right. Stand menacingly next to that little pussy on the left and watch a female's reaction. She will suddenly flip allegiance. Breathe right down that scrawnlet's neck.

They do. This idea that men become more attractive as they age is absolute cope. Men are the most attractive physically when they’re mature but young.

>>510909976

I didn't give advice other than say act your age. I've married, reproduced (4 White kids) and made enough money to retire at 41. I'm set. I don't need to chase young pussy, it chases me and I ignore it. I don't care about being bald. I don't kill myself in the gym, just a basic PPL routine 3 days a week to keep the love-handles away. Life doesn't need to be more complicated than that. The genetic dead-ends of the world will "self improve" and still get nowhere. Women want what they want. 80/20 law of nature. If you're part of the 80, accept the lower 20% that'll want you.

>>510908317
Because you shave your abdomen like a fag.

>>510910158
40 lbs of muscle takes years ya fucktard. Could get fat trying to gain it to and end up looking like the right guy or worse.

>>510910172
I go to a gym and I have never seen any of the big guys ending up with a woman above average attractiveness. It is always another bodybuilding chick or some migrant woman. But yeah they can score much younger more often than the average.

>>510910227
> another pol-larp arrives

>>510907525 (OP)
The one on the right found steroids.

>>510908317
And I bet you eat entirely different than you did at 20.

>>510910222
If you lift, up your dressing, increase your charm and charisma and get more money you can absolutely become more attractive into your early-40s. After that you might be retaining at best.

>>510910255
I know but that guy looks pretty.

something's fishy with his firearm at 40

>>510910376
this is always the line that dysgenic faggots parrot
you've never earned it yourself, so you assume its out of reach, and you have no clue what required to achieve it

>>510910355

You realize that type of "prove yourself" comment is very feminine in nature...right? I don't have to prove anything to anyone on this board. Look at all other animals that are half way dead. statistically at 41 I'm past middle age. Old lions and wolves don't mate. They can't keep up with the pack, so go rogue and eventually starve to death. At 60 people used to be shipped out to sea or left to the elements to die. We should be going back to that instead of encouraging old people to have babies or costume themselves in the fashion and lifestyles of young people. Grow up, unironically.

>>510910431
Aroudn 50 is usually brutal for men but by the time if you are with a woman who is about late 30s she has hit the wall too. This idea of women still looking beautiful while they are married to some utter slob monster is a meme of women on reddit

>>510908439
A GRAPH WAS POSTED
that's it, the science has spoken, debate over
lmao get real

>>510910545
Homie he is 100% on roids.

>>510910227
>genetic dead ends
You sound like the biggest faggot who reads that post to yourself in the morning the mirror. Where do you think you’re posting you faggot normie you belong here for a reason. Stop looking for attention handouts you fake pussy lmfao.

>>510907525 (OP)
The 20 year old version doesn't have back and joint pain

>>510910571
You are a larper because successful people always want the best outcomes. They don't settle for mediocrity. It is painfully obvious and the shit you are spewing is only a cope for not wanting to put in the work, influencing others to do the same. Women do this shit too when they tell others to divorce because they did.

I hate Muttniggers on this site, worst posters by a long shot. Even Indians are better, at least they sometimes make me laugh with their delusions

>>510910631
I'm not your homie you ugly noodle armed kraut faggot

>>510910644
> There are still White Americans left
Good to see

>>510908317
Synthetic Man?

>>510910243
No i dont, I never shaved anything except my pubes

>>510910411
More steaks but same amount of calories and brotein. My body doesnt store fat so idk what u are implying actually..

>>510910703
When you lift you never will have back pain. Dunno about joint, probably not either.

>>510910752

Again, I won't respond to that stupid shit, and you being unwilling to settle for the bottom 20% of women means your standards are too high and your delusions of grandeur should be treated by a medical professional, notably a psychiatrist.

>>510910752
Dude shut the fuck up and stop seething about Americans for a second. You may have some points but you sound like an absolute whiny bitch. Why do Germans seethe 10x more about America than England? And this is coming from a Germanboo.

>>510910703
Don't do manual labor and u won't have joint pain. Sleep on ur back on a firm mattress and u won't have back pain. Simple as

>>510907525 (OP)
Imagine caring what a bunch of feminine little "adult" faggots think?

>>510907525 (OP)
Feminized, that's when women peak.

>>510909503
>"zoomettes" you get are the ugliest out of the age group, likely fat too.
Not at all. In my experience, the ~1/3 or so of younger girls who specifically go after older guys tend to be the better looking, fitter, more feminine, submissive, trad, etc. There's almost always a daddy's little girl vibe with them.
The ~1/3 or so on the opposite side of the spectrum who are not into older guys at all, and think age gaps are problematic or whatever are where you find all of the fat ones and dyed hair woke bitchy ones. Feel free to keep them for yourself lol.

>>510908550
Yeah it's embarrassing seeing unc trying to cope and pretend that he's not as walled as all the roasties his age.

>>510908317
>Give me one reason an 18 year old woupdnt want to fuck me besides my personality?
Because you have a gross hairy chest and you're circumcised.

>>510908317
You need to do more chest exercises. but other than that you're doing good anon.

>>510910804
No im just 5'9 manlet so i look buffer than I actually am

>>510910852
If you lift extremely heavy you surely will get problems. Lifting is good, lifting very heavy not

>>510910892
As I said you are a retarded coper. The lowest 20%, you are a delusional cunt

>>510910895
Read American posters for a while, if you have some self-reflection you would get it. The worst posts are always from there

>>510910848
When you where 18-20 you probably ate whatever you wanted whenever you wanted. Pizza, beers, chips, fries etc. I bet you can no longer eat like that is what I am getting at.

>>510910644

You ARE statistically a genetic dead-end if only the bottom 20% of women want you. There's no amount of self improvement that'll cloak blatant weaknesses and chronic illnesses. As a practice and standard I've never fucked women who need corrective lenses, had acne or were outside of my ethnicity.

>>510910977
Non circumcised besides being half jewishm even my kike dad knew it was wrong, why dod ur goy dad not stop the jew doctors from drsensetizing you?
>>510911009
Ik, I did 2 hours of bench the other day, im focusing on getting to 5 pl8 deadlift thougg and the mean reason I work out is to counteract my back pain(shcih I had since I was 19)

>>510909048
Pretty sure studies show testosterone goes up for a few hours after faping, and many studies show testosterone only goes up for a week before returning to normal during no fap

>>510911060

The lowest 20% is your speed, slow down to that and breed some swabian goblins.

>>510908550
I agree with you
Young >>>>>>>>> Old.

But I would be absolutely surprised and baffled if anyone under 25 have higher Testosterone than me and I am 40.

>>510911069
I HAVE to stuff my face day in and day out. I eat cake every day. I have a super fast metabolism. Everyone on my mom's side is a skeleton
. My natrual appetite is 1 meal a day.. I have to shove 4 big ass meals in plus snacks just o gain weight

>>510910789
I dont have noodle arms you fat burger. Welll i kinda do but fuck you better than yours.

>>510909503
We get zomettes because they are promiscuous to be honest.

>>510910955
It is true, but it requires real work. That is why most men don't do it. Being some fat office drone is not likely to grant someone a younger woman. The guys who go that route have to settle for women their age when they are late 30s to have one IVF child if at all or they got to fly to Asia.

>>510911142
Complete bs, aside from that nobody should procreate with ugly women. Average or above average men ruin their genetics with them. It is better not to have any children or get with an attractive foreign woman than doing that.

>>510907525 (OP)
Zoomers are obsessed with youth because it's the only thing they have. Hopefully most of them will just kill themselves when they hit 30.

>>510911267

Nice picture of New York in the background.

>>510911135
>many studies
Bro there was only one study, u have no idea what u are talking about also were those men working out and were they supposed their sexual desire and not getting boners and not looking at women? Its supposed to get harder and more frustrating every day. Also did they try to edge for 5 mineurs once a week? It took me 15 years to develop the displine to do that. Not jacking off is really hard ur ur healthy and I doubt these people were even honest..

Also, so what if it goes down to 40 percent instead of 45 percent. Did they stop testing after the 2nd week? Did they ever find out what happens if u go 1-3 months? Longest i lasted was. Month and it had to leave the gym cuz I was about go cut my pants from a hot latina what was working out next to me. I drove home rabid like a dog and hacked off furiously. Wouldn't have done that if my test wasn't though the roof

>>510911123
>why dod ur goy dad not stop the jew doctors from drsensetizing you?
But he did, I am intact... otherwise why would I shit on cutfags?

>>510911267
Ubermensch.

>>510911267
>The face of no air conditioning.

>>510911295
I am 29, the reason older men get more young women right now is simply because women have taken tons of shit from men, so much that they now think all guys their age are losers. Women think every guy who isn't doing much better than they do is a loser.

>>510911350

Attraction is subjective, there is no "average" or above average. What's the mean you're using to establish a base level aesthetic? If you're only capable of attracting the lower 20%, lower your unrealistic standards to that and breed some lumpy forest dwelling gnome looking swabian woman.

>>510910852
>>510910906
Personally I don't have chronic back pain, but my hands and wrists are kinda fucked.
I've probably got another 15 years or so being viking disease starts to become a problem.

>>510909576
Neither of those guys would have any problems getting girls as long as they were both doing/saying the right things. A small number of girls might prefer one of them over the other, but both guys are well above the minimum looks threshold for almost all girls. Neither of them would have an issue with getting rejected based on their looks alone.

>>510911484
Nobody should do that, you are retarded.

>>510911502
before viking disease*

>>510911534

You're destined to be alone forever I suppose. Not even 100 years ago the lower 20% got married and bred like rats until one of them came out attractive and eventually married outside of their status into a better life. We should go back to that.

>>510909934
>In fact, Testosterone levels only start to significantly drop around 50 years old.
I think this is under the assumption you take care of your health

>>510911506
Western women prefer the left hard, it is the truth. White women are mostly not into big bulging muscles, you will attract men and women from shithole countries as well as other bodybuilder women with that.

>>510907733
If you avoid seed oils, microplastics, tap water, and don't become a fatass as you age like most men do then your T levels don't really drop until mid forties or early fifties. There is a reason why old men in 2004 had 17% less testosterone than their 1987 counterparts.

>>510911267
>better than yours.
No.
I'm an entire order of magnitude more attractive than you as well, dipshit

>>510911502
>>510911539
May you pillage, plunder and rape many villages until then.

That looks like 25 35 45 IMO

>>510911614
I am not ugly and refuse to mate with an ugly woman. None of the women i have ever been with were ugly either. You are just some freak pushing dysgenic messaging which tons of American flags here do all the damn time.

>>510907525 (OP)
not even gay but the youngest one is the peak. being ripped in your 40s and still chasing pussy is gayer than just swallowing dicks your whole life

>>510907525 (OP)
After 25, it's over
You're old, and if you don't have your life together yet, you're in for 50 more years of suffering, that is if you don't give yourself the mercy of suicide before that

>>510907733
>I believe that T and steroids etc should be over the counter for over 40.
God I hate you fucking losers so much kek

>>510911704
>not even gay but the youngest one is the peak. being ripped in your 40s and still chasing pussy is gayer than just swallowing dicks your whole life
See, another mutttard.

>>510907525 (OP)
Because they don't want to see other men actually exercise and then look down to see their massive gut from being lazy

>>510908449
Are you trying to court a boyfriend?

I am 35 and have way above T of even high. Fucking zoomers are you retarded with this science bullshit?

>>510909576
>t. Never had girls copping feels of their biceps, chest, and shoulders

>>510907525 (OP)
>moves his face farther out of frame with age
Time is cruel.

>>510911758
This is millenials too. I am a very late zoomer I think and work with millennials, they are like that as well. It is just how most humans are. But one must resist that thinking, it is just weak

>>510911267
disgusting subhuman, cant wait for muslims to replace you

>>510911692

You're not a woman, how would you know you're attractive to them? You really should lower your standards and reproduce. That's the only point in your existence...

>>510911726
Oh no! How will I sleep tonight knowing this? Rent free bitch.

They do looks and health wise and most of society is aimed at being young. Yeah you can keep putting on mass till your 50s but that just means you're getting stronger not healthier. In my earlier 20s I could run a few miles with no training. Now I would need a 6 week training plan to run a couple miles. Yeah you can prolong your productive years but you can't escape time and there is no better time to be alive than your mid 20s.

>>510910955
nope i just dont believe it, ive got a 10 years younger gf and definitely dont have the misogynist coomer vibes from the 40+ crowd on here. you all are down bad.

>>510911865
>But one must resist that thinking
you talk like a fag

>>510911704
What if ur wife allows u to fuck other women since u are in the top percentile of men since u work out?

>>510911350
>Being some fat office drone is not likely to grant someone a younger woman.
Not by itself no, and that's true regardless of age.
But if that older guy has been stacking cash for a few decades and can afford a relatively interesting/exciting/luxurious lifestyle, and has the confidence and experience that comes with age that makes him seem like an OG alpha male silverback gorilla compared to all the broke, retarded, awkward, thirsty younger guys, girls go crazy over it.

>>510908937
This. I worked out consistently from about 16-28 and always had a 80-pack and grapefruit biceps. Penis pointers like a god. Then some bad shit happened and I took up drink, bad. Spent 29-35 drinking all day every day. Decided to quit this January after discovering my wife was pregnant and have lost my 40lbs of alcohol weight, got my 8 pack back, and am now lifting more than I did in my 20s bc I’m taking it cereal and not just doing it to get the bare minimum to looked jacked in a swimming costume. Always nattie. Liquid jew, never again. God bless, bro

>>510911957
If I were unattractive I wouldnt have ever gotten any, also I am tall which universally is considered attractive in men. Reproducing at all cost is retarded, you think like a woman. I don't want to answer to a manlet son that this happened because I picked his ugly mom. It is better not to have children than that. The woman I dated last was above average attractive but she wanted to go back to university to get another degree, who needs that.

>>510912063
He says as he refuses to work out.

>>510912091
yeah what if

>>510912241
>He says as he refuses to work out.
what do you 5x5 for deads/bench/squat?

>>510911484
>If you're only capable of attracting the lower 20%
It's not the male's role to attract a mate, women are the ones who are supposed to passively sit back and attract a high value mate with their looks.
The male role is to be aggressive and make the first move and keep pushing things forward. His attractiveness is relatively unimportant. All else being equal, very very few men are so ugly that they would get rejected based on their looks alone.

>>510912241

>it's better to not have children

There's no reason not to given the population collapse amongst the indigenous population of your country.

>>510909019
He means arse fed. Amerimutt moment

>>510912458

Ahh, the Genghis Khan approach, no means yes. Brown people are funny.

>>510912236
This sounds like prostitution man, women cannot respect men who bribe them.

>>510912470
Don't care about that

>>510907965
sounds like he has a steady source of test anyway though

>>510911625
Again, almost all women would be fine with both men based just on their looks. Some women might have a slight preference for one over the other, all else being equal, but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for the other.
If anything, there are more women who specifically fetishize and seek out the very jacked, bulky looking guys. There are plenty of ugly short manlet guys who have hot girlfriends because they are as wide as they are tall and hairy and ugly and strong af and basically look like cavemen who just got time travelled from the stone age.
Women are into the skinny emo artsy manbun twink types too, but in a much more general sense. They don't fetishize it or specifically seek out those types of guys in the same way that some women specifically fetishize huge jacked bodybuilder cavemen.
But this whole mindset of "which aesthetic attracts more women" is already starting out wrong and a losing strategy. Very few relationships or sexual interactions happen because the woman was so strongly attracted to the man because he was some kind of niche archetype. 95%+ of the time, it's because the man just kept pushing things forward and didn't fuck it up and the girl just went with it.

>>510912712
>This sounds like prostitution man, women cannot respect men who bribe them.

Its an american thing.
they are taought form birth tazhtyou have to byu women. Theres even mutts that refuse to have a gf because they are not "financially stable" and thus cannot drop the required bills in the nightstand to pay for fucking their gfs.
Never take americans at face value, the entire place is just a loony bin with niggers.

Women care about status more than anything. Women depend on "society" to rate men for them. Also, if you talk about killing the high-status males, women imagine all the good men are dead and good men will never be made again. But if you actually do it, they're like "I didn't know there was a high-status male hiding under that retarded incel!"

They say women are cold. No they aren't, they just don't realize that the shit they think of on the regular is absolutely Lovecraftian to any sane man.

>>510907525 (OP)
Men technically become stronger with age provided they avoid injury and whey women are uncontrollably sexually excited by older men even though they disgust themselves.

Women on the other hand will find it easier to find a partner while young and basically average but drop off at 30 due to being no longer fertile and therefore unable to reproduce and so anyone with other predictions in the past didn't manage to reproduce as it's impossible

>>510909922
Well yeah no shit. What do you give a woman to prevent her inevitable one-sided war with the wall?

>>510913179
This might have been true in the past but now women have money so they don't feel like settling for anything that isn't close enough to what they want

>>510913220
They also push the idea that you have to absolutely get with a woman your age, it is just bizarre to me

>>510907777
this and its not because of age

>>510909306
fuck off retard

>>510907525 (OP)
>it took me 20 years to understand contrast lighting

>>510911957
>You really should lower your standards and reproduce.
This doesn't work for most guys because less attractive women aren't really that much easier to get with or less picky than hotter ones.
Less attractive women tend to be insecure about themselves and are much more likely to care about a guy's looks, and usually have a very strong desire to get a stereotypically chad looking boyfriend to prove that they are pretty enough to do it too.
Hotter girls generally give less weight to a guy's looks and care more about things like his attitude, charisma, money, social status, etc. Hotter girls will prefer a relatively dopey looking guy who is confident and cool and charming over some hot guy who acts awkward and thirsty and weird toward her.

The army is despairing because they're about to start conscription, and anticipate having to put millions and millions of men through fat camp, and trying to convince the few fit men to die for isreal in place of those fat men who realistically will never see front line combat.

US personele are fat enough, but then you get down to reservists, cadets, school children. Bro they couldn't fight their way out of a McDonald's bag.

>>510913590
Don't worry despite being fit I won't do shit for my country.

>>510907525 (OP)
>zoomer this
>zoomer that
Go insert peaches in your anus, you old loser.

>>510913695
I am a zoomer and on average we do suck. I find making friends harder than getting women.

>>510907525 (OP)
Obvious steroid use.

At least I think I am a zoomer, 29 is zoomer, right?

>>510908051
Nothing like an ass fed steak to boost my test while I lift weight and watch Forx News.

>>510907525 (OP)
that dude is on TRT

>>510910545
Anon he's clearly on steroids in the far right pic.

>>510913797
I'm 34 and identify as a Boomer.
So Pipe down, young'un

>>510908051
Nofap is pseudo science horse shit perpetuated by swarthy christ cucks.

>>510913682
Aren't you guys on your third coup attempt in three years?

>>510913987
No.

>>510907525 (OP)
>What drugs do you take?
>All_OF_THEM.jpeg

>>510907733
Fuck your chemicals
Fuck your hormones
Fuck your science
A man is a man, always.

>>510913510

It does factually work, my brother did this and has 6 kids. 5 duds/average people and one exceptional one. That's generally how things have worked forever.

>>510913877
>t. another redditor with shitty genes who doesnt lift

>>510913927
Porn is made by jews, therefore it's obviously bad. Doesn't take a 200 IQ to figure that out

>>510907777
Are you a woman?
Because women donknow what they want, you fucking faggot

>>510912712
When did I ever say anything about actually giving money to a girl? You definitely shouldn't try to play the beta bucks provider game in 2025 taking girls out on expensive dates and buying them gifts and throwing money at them. They just use guys like that for free shit and don't fuck them.
I mean that when you have money, you can afford a better, more fun, more interesting lifestyle. Say you are in a bar or somewhere like that. You have enough money to have a good time with your friends, buying rounds of shots and all of that without worrying about it or thinking to much vs some broke 20 year old awkwardly nursing one cheap beer all night because he only has $9 left in his bank account until his next paycheck.
I spend far more money on my male friends, buying them drinks, paying to play pool, shit like that than I do on girls.
I'm pretty sure I haven't been on an actual sit down dinner date in a restaurant with a girl since 2020, but have hooked up with lots of girls since then. And that was only because it was during that weird part of covid lockdowns when bars were closed but you could go to restaurants and sit at a table.

>>510907525 (OP)
Because they are in their 20s now

>>510907525 (OP)
>fully grey at 40
bullshit

>>510907525 (OP)
looks more like 60 on the right Jesus. bad genetics hidden with steroids.

>>510914153
You do realize that you can still jerk off without watching porn, faggot? Where does your nofap shit come into play then

>>510914196
What do you do with them then?

>>510913481
>fuck off retard
Getting emotionally triggered is feminine anon.

>>510914224
dudes go full grey in their 20s-30s all the time dumbfuck

Also worth pointing out that obesity overlaps very strongly with the demographics the US army plans to conscript. They don't care about the general obesity rate, they care specifically about men under 40. And historically they're looking at poorer families, regional communities for infantry. So the headline 49% obesity rate is bad, but beneath it is an even worse 30% obesity rate among fighting age males, and the number in that class who are morbidly obese has risen six fold.

The US army isn't invading anyone if their troops can't even fit into the tanks, planes and submarines any more. Cunts couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

>>510907525 (OP)
Because they promote cunts as equal

>>510907525 (OP)
2nd pic is hottest, desu

>>510907525 (OP)

>>510914010
Well there was the reichsburgers, then the German paratroopers, then the German SAS, then there was this group in Bavaria.
What's the deal with Bavaria?

>>510907777
Nope. The second one is best.

>>510908484
>but in reality women in the West are against relationships that look unequal
The only women that are against this are all post wall 30 year old roasties.

>>510910118
He cared about you....and all of us...and as the Last American president once said...

"...you can easily see how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country, which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made." -JFK

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?
This is most likely from Millennial roasties who want to shame men into settling for a piece of gum 99 other men have already chewed.
>You can't be a young Zoomerette's trophy husband! Then who's going to settle for us? Noooo muh sexual capital!

>>510908122
>Better face

Lol. No.

>>510910895
>Why do Germans seethe 10x more about America
It's projetion of self loathing...

Remember...their base programming from birth is to hate themselves and White people...even "Based and Redpilled" White Diaspora have this base programming inside of them. Leaders are needed to bypass these shortcomings...that's why we have them(or should.)

>>510907525 (OP)
>>510907525 (OP)

>>510914397
Those people are all boomertards, none of this had any chance of success

>>510914450
Most women are like that, they break rules for men they consider worthy though

>>510914153

>>510908317
enjoy your 30s. especially the first half. its the best time for a male. medieval and later europeans dreamed of the "spring of youth" which would let you stay in your early 30s forever if you drink from it. sadly it was just another myth in the early colonial age.

>>510908449
Post benis.

>>510914687
>It's projetion of self loathing...

Yeah right, the Self loathing" of you keeping an occupation force here, blackmailing ourt politicians, committing terrorist acts againts infrastructure like North stream, sanctioning us economically and just being all around massive gaping cunts at every opportunity
Go get raped by a pack of your beloved niggers, you'll probably enjoy it.

>>510908928
The idea of millennials of all people pretending they are some kind of uber manly vanguard. Snowflake was coined to describe you LOL

I pray to god that when im 40 im not this desperately afraid of younger, stronger men coming to usurp me

>>510913590
Dude USJSOC alone is larger than your entire country's military.

>>510908732
And being homos or homo adjacent degenerates.

>>510914912
Unlike times drastically change you won't have to given people become more soi every generation. Its reality, I am 29 and its true on average.

>>510908449
>I still get rock hard just from seeing a teenage girl's midriff.
how do you hide your excessivly large boner then?

>>510914659
I'm 40, banging hungry divorcées and riding motorcycles...

Don't simp...don't cuck...don't destroy your life for a burned out feminist girlboss roastie etc...remember you are a part of a civilization. We must discourage simping to protect the rising zyklon generation so they aren't screwed over the way Millennials were by Boomers and Gen X.

>>510907777
checked, pol is and was always obsessed with male bodies, large dicks, muscles and "what women find attractive". You are a bunch of faggots and this is one of the majors you cant get laid or even hold hands.

>>510908885
>Nofap

Have you ever considered going steady with a woman, fucking her, marrying her and raising a family? Instead of bragging on the internet on how you never bust nuts.

>>510907733
You haven't even "peaked" test wise at 20, 30 begins a steady decline, falls off a good bit at 40, hits a cliff at 50 but pretty much steadily stays there and very slowly declines then.

At 40 it's probably about 65 -80% of 20 (with 23/4 being his max)

But yes he's definitely on steroids, it's not unknown for masculisation to continue or even increase into late 20s to early 30s, but by 40 it should naturally be decreasing (some men really do get that "second puberty" from 23 - 27)

I was never small or "undeveloped" looking, but around mid twenties, if you'd known me at 22, you'd guess I'd been roiding with the skin reddening, thickening, voice got even deeper, even my actual bones got way bigger and thicker, and a big heavy brow started really coming in. I'd guess it's something to do with DHT to Test ratios. It's starting to very slowly decline now at 32.

>>510914306
thats the goal

I peaked physically at 16. Once I was 25, my body finally felt the effects of aging. God damn it it's bad. It's really bad. But you do get used to it for a while. I'd imagine getting to 60 will be much worse. If you're an old man only money can save you. It's the only cope. If you're broke, welcome to actual hell.

>>510915002
I am the same age as you and my teenage nephews are 100% more badass than you or me were at their age lol. Andrew tate has been good for probably one thing and its making modern teenagers crazy

Again you are all just desperately afraid of the fact that you are aging and withering away when you should be celebrating and trying to build those younger than you

>>510914811
I'd say late 20's is actual physical peak (naturally) all things equal. By early 30s "agility" will decline no matter what.

>>510909079
>There are fuckable 60 year old men.

Typed by the faggy hands of a queer with daddy issues

>>510912239
Yeah it seems like you can always get it back, but I think the good base is important. Young guys should spend their early 20s getting as fit as possible.

>>510915093
>I'm 40, banging hungry divorcées and riding motorcycles...
Is that not simping for Millennial roasties by giving them the attention they desire? Is that not the same as rewarding them for their
>burned out feminist girlboss roastie
behavior?
I say ignore them. Let them learn their lesson by letting them fade into tribal irrelevance

>>510909149
I'd rather be bald as an egg, before I would pump myself full of pharmaceuticals, in the name of vainglory.

>>510915377
No its not.
Its just not being a faggot. If shes hot, shes hot. Whether shes 19 or 55. Everything else is no consideration.

>>510907525 (OP)
>Why do zoomer try to push thr narrative that men peak in their early-mid 20s?
Because they are already dying, seriusly all of them are becoming Boomers at 20

>>510907525 (OP)
He looks 25 in first image, 40 in second, and 60 in third

>>510909273
Looks matter, dude. Sorry to alarm you, but its true for everyone. Looks matter no matter what your age. It is evolution in motion. Looks matter for various reasons too, separate from just sexual attraction.

>>510915535
wait until zoomer guys find out you start losing bone size after 30

>>510915491
Explain to me how giving
>burned out feminist girlboss roastie
attention, isn't simping?

>>510909306
If he really had his shit together, he would be married and raising a family. Not fucking random degenerates he got from a dating app designed by the subverters of society.

>>510908439
Source?

>>510908668
Brad was 41 during Troy

>>510915887
It can take years to find an acceptable woman. If you hold age against men participation rate will only slump further.

>>510907525 (OP)
>Born with a perfect physique
>Thinks he had anything to do with it
I can just tell by that dumb look on his face this asshole is insufferable

>>510915377
The only attention women get from me is on my terms...usually on my motorcycle or my cock...

But I completely respect celibacy etc...most millennial men should go monk-self improvement mode, and build themselves and their lives up.

I spend zero dollars, buy zero gifts, pick up zero dinner tabs except where it's directly benefiting me and has no financial burden on me.

There's a big difference between simping on dinner dates for 304s just to get ghosted...and shit testing and making women come to you...

Just a few of my thoughts.

Younger men that are not connected with strong trad-Christian women should MGTOW until they are older however.

>>510914837
For those of you that don't know...this kind of low IQ demotivational stupidity is usually a larping glowfag...or simply a depressed White Diaspora that is too sick to understand he's shooting himself in the foot (again...a classic projection of self loathing by abused children)

>>510916239
>.usually on my motorcycle or my cock
Are you that larping faggot that said you fuck girls in "socal" on your motorcycle amd the never told their husbands about you?

>>510915459
I buz my head and grow my beard out...sure it was nice having a full head of blonde hair as a kid...but I don't give a shit. Stay strong brother.

>>510907525 (OP)
He got on roids. Simple.

>>510916372
>getting casually laid is so unattainable it must be a larp
you faggots do a great job of constantly telling on yourselves wtf

>>510915851
Pic related is a perversion of Pepe...that's glownigger pepe...he is not one of our people. Pepe doesn't ride private jets and virtue signal at cocktail parties while destroying White civilization...he's down in the mud with the grunts.

>>510907525 (OP)
Fun fact you don't lose your strength over night, it takes about as long as it takes to gain as it does to lose it, so don't give up even if you take a break.

>>510916116
Brad was an extraordinary rare individual. The great sculptures used men like that to study aesthetics....you don't need to look like him to get attention from women.

>>510907777
Dude is ripped in all 3 pics.

>>510916372
Yes...and I'm not a larp...stop being a bitch and just take a local MC safety course...they are cheap and easy and all you need is boots gloves and a helmet.

>>510911377
I hope that isnt some kind of subtle flame.

>>510907525 (OP)
The story of a faggot
Ok, you can suck my dick | Put it in my bum bro hahahah | fucks kids

>>510916900
Homie, even if we are the public some kind of you know good faith should remain.

>>510916032
Do an image search and you can read them all.

>>510907777
Why on Earth would anyone care what a woman "thinks"?

>>510907525 (OP)
I'm 45, in the best shape of life and having the best sex of my life with my partner. I don't look like anything like the fags in the pictures. I'm lean, wirey, eat well and move a lot. Not a gym fag.

Zoomers are just demoralising themselves. Comparison is the thief of joy. Average, ugly people fall in love all the time and live happy lives. Being ugly inside, hating women, believing all women want Chad is what prevents getting laid and/or finding love. It is a demoralization ritual being pushed by (((others))), quite successfully. Don't fall for it.

ZoomZooms are incredibly feminine and imitate women so for them turning 30 is like a death sentence.

>>510909306
I hate Sabrina Carpenter and her stupid songs.

>>510915334
And? Why would anyone want anything to do with women?

Because no one finds leathery skin and receding hairlines attractive and test rapidly causes both in men? There's a reason fuckboys look like twinks and not your pic. Because to women, men peak in their teens

FTM needs 20 years to train muscles to the level of 17 yo boy. Kek

women only care about a mans FACE and height
your FACE is at its peak in your 20s
/pol/cels are so far behind everyone else its embarrassing, are you all 50 years old?

>>510917545
>Because to women, men peak in their teens

Nope

>>510917242
>Being ugly inside, hating women, believing all women want Chad is what prevents getting laid and/or finding love.

this is literally a religious belief, may as well start telling me about my star sign as well bro
its all about your FACE, nothing more

>>510907525 (OP)
You will never look as good as you do as a 20 year old fit man

>>510916131
You don't find an acceptable woman by fucking every loosey goosey who drops her panties for you.
And only trash tier people would ever use an dating app.
Anyone who would follow an app to find out who he gets to date or fuck, deserves eternal inceldom.
Have some self respect, why don't you.

>>510918062
>t. some dygenic mealy mouthed zero

>>510917324
Ever left the house, gone for a hike, seen a man and a woman holding hands, laughing and just enjoying time together? It is something human beings have done for a long time. Nothing new. Are you a fag, asexual or something or just so demoralized you believe you are not capable? Good Lord. I pray for you anon.

>>510916469
>Getting casually laid

Yep. You're a degen.

>>510918496
Okay, you make sure you pray for ice water when you're in Hell.

>>510907733
>40 year old male has less than half of the T they had at 20
The funny thing is that even at half T their levels are likely still higher than 20 year old zoomers lmao
>(It's actually not funny and the decreasing T levels with each generation is cause for extreme concern and hatred towards jews and birth control poisoning the water supplies)

>>510917324
To be normal. To get a family. To not thumb your nose at millions of years of natural life, like an insolent child. Lots of reasons. Faggot.

>>510918502
who gives a fuck you ugly goofball

>>510918753
Be quiet. You're not a part of Nature. You fully lost any rights a living being has by destroying this world to serve your false jewish "gods".

>>510908317
ugly, 4chan user
girls can tell from a mile away. being in good shape doesn't hide the chud

>>510917545
>Because to women, men peak in their teens

Fucking no. What the fuck is wrong with you. Cringe, eternally online, faggot.

>>510917955
Bullshit. If you believe that then why do uncoventionally unattractive people fall in love and have done so since the dawn of time? And why do so many of them seem very happy?

>>510917545
>Because to women, men peak in their teens
Post tits or fuck off roastoid.

>>510917955
Its about attitude.

>>510918801
I am a fit, well muscled, well adjusted family man. While you're online bragging about fucking tons of gross skanks you find on the trash heaps of the internet.
So, I stay winning. While you, fuck trash tier sluts who also use dating apps to link up with " people " like you.

>>510918709
That does not make any sense. God wants people to be happy. Fidelity is good. Do you think sitting at home being a perma-virgin will make you a Saint? C'mon brother. That is lunacy. Faith without works is dead. And if you don't have faith, die alone. I don't wish that for you but what on Earth are you talking about.

>>510908484
>in reality women in the West are against relationships that look unequal.
no one except zoomer males and older women care about unqual "power dynamics"