are christianity and atheism just another false choice like the two-party system?

No it's the belief in a god (theism) vs the lack of belief in a god (atheism).

Atheists are right, everyone else is wrong.

do what you want. nobody cares, asshole.

>>511258322 (OP)
Wow that’s deep man

And yes Christianity is retarded as is any other religion

>>511258322 (OP)
>are christianity and atheism just another false choice like the two-party system?
Dictionary atheism is just a gateway to materialist nihilism, its techno-statist religion and its expert priest class. Insofar as you have other opinions besides opening yourself to the influences of organized religions, atheism vs. christianity is indeed a false dichotomy.

>>511258322 (OP)
My wife is a yandere omnipotent God.

I find it funny how atheism overall has turned into just another political stance

>>511259055
>I find it funny how atheism overall has turned into just another political stance
>turned into
Literally always has been.

>>511258421
problem with atheism is that it's a slur. I agree that christianity is a larp but believing that you don't believe in stuff that's not universal and just logical to everyone if they are smart enough is beyond ridiculous. All gods represent some sort of values and when you think you are an atheist you are just a feminist although women do not inherently deserve anything or you are a capitalist who thinks that some deserve one things when others dont. For example a capitalist will be against murdering someone to take someones stuff but thats not logical, its just a system of belief and it doesnt stand on its own but right amount of people believing in it. When people will stop believing in capitalism, everyone will think that they are so smart and everyone was so stupid for believing in it and another quasi religious idea will take over.

>>511258746
imo atheists and christianty are just expressions of the same thing. same as communism. religion seems to be less about religion in the sense of it being true but an excuse to be religious about something. like a golden cow but instead of that it's jesus, or science, or hedonism, or million other things.

on the other hand most people seem to be full of shit anyhow and don't take it seriously in the first place. they're all albanians, spiritually speaking.

>>511259376
>most people seem to be full of shit anyhow and don't take it seriously
i think that all abrahamic religions are just religions of the past and there will always be conservative people that will try to cling to it. The same way you had countryside people aka pagans in Roman Empire clinging to paganism but the process takes such a long time that there will be decreasing amount of christians even when all of us are dead. Problem is that post-christianity is very destructive to society, whatever it is, wonder if christianity was as destructive after it stomped pagans to the side.

>>511259376
I am Zeus, the sky father, and the Master of this entire creation, but I am not omnipotent because my wife want me to be dependent on her.

>>511259287
all people on all sides think they have figuered out including me when we're all just part of some weird generational dynamic repeating a cycle. christianity needs to be authoritarian or whoever is down the line will rebel and reject it because the shit was forced upon them. meanwhile the parents will just force it even harder but impotently so because if they can their kids will just move out when they're 18 and become stand-up comics in LA.

same goes for atheists. that everything goes attitude with the gay shit with punk parents leads to having a square ass little nick fuentes sitting at kitchen table lecturing them on some weird take of catholicism and hot takes on hitler.

>>511258322 (OP)
Yes, all modern mainstream religions have some or more mindfuckery in them, including atheism.

>>511259842
imo christianity is about as much guilty because it quite literally created these kind of conditions either actively or indirectly and then claims itself to be the solution. wasn't the atheists who caused the african over- population and all that.

>>511258322 (OP)
>cuckstianity or atheism
>muh favourite magic invisible floating faggot in the sky is the only sky faggot
Godtards studiously avoid the 9,999 other gods besides their favourite one because they tend to devalue it and reduce it to a me-too god. If you're not a retard, a coward or a woman, antisemitic atheism is the only rational world view.

>>511260269
Love is the solution. You are whining because you lack something. That something is Love.

>>511258421
My brother not in Christ, do you believe in natural rights? That it is the thought that counts? Do you believe in equality? Do you believe might makes right or that there is a higher sense of morality that exists? Do you believe in the forward, moral arc of history and linear time?

Cause if you do, that's all christcuck and jewish bullshit. Where do ypur natural rights come from? Who is dishing them out? The statr? Does that mean invading, occupying and altering the law changes your natural rights? What about the idea that 'it's the thought that counts', by what metric? If someone who hates you and someone who is asleep at the wheel hit you with the same model of car at the same angle and exact same speed, your spine isn't going to fucking care about the driver's intent, it'll split the same way either way. So by what material metric is it different? How is a talking snake more pseudo scientific than equality when everything we learn when we examine DNA tells us the opposite? Does might make right? If not, then on what purely material and rational basis does it not. To even have might means you are doing something right and to be weak you must obviously be doing something wrong, so on what objective basis can we say it doesn't. Whig history? Oh, that's just tikkun olam repackaged for goy like us, so on what basis can it be called secular?

Face it man, a lot of our people, especially in the west, believe shit that is fantasical, if not more so, then some of the most delusional of christcucks.

>>511260050
>repeating a cycle
but here we have a pagan revival and I talk to those pagans... They just don't like electronics and how much time we spend on using them, prefer to be in nature so somehow they connected it to lithuanians being the last pagans of Europe and that they now have to dance around fires from time to time and make old stuff, they also say with a straight face that they believe in spirits of the forest. Old people who are christian are also joining them, although on some level it feels like they are just rebelling against either loss of lithuanian identity after the fall of soviet union or christianity. I still find it ridiculous that you need some hobby worshipping when you spend almost every week of the day worshipping your boss at work. Forest neither provides you food or safety like it did in the past.

>>511258322 (OP)
These are a completely different classes of entity. Christianity is a belief system. Atheism is a property of a belief system.

>>511258322 (OP)
The US and Western Europe were at their strongest and most united when it was overwhelmingly Christian but it isn't that way anymore. The West is entirely secular now and everything has gotten worse becaue of it.

>>511261212
Atheism is also a belief system. It has many slightly varying denominations but the same core beliefs.

>>511260433
says the guy with the deus vult meme flag. dunno what you actually want but I assume it's not christianity because you're right, in theory it should be about love and turning the other cheek, loving your neighbor etc. but you're just weak and think chrisitanity will make you strong enough to punish the gays and the jews and the foreigners. which is fine, but it's not christianity. that's like picking up curious george and expecting conan the barbarian.

>>511261301
Deus Ex Machina. The Master of the world is Me.

>>511261289
Atheism is not a belief system. One can argue that atheists will typically hold some common beliefs. But this has nothing to do with atheism intrinsically. You could in principal create an atheistic belief system that believes almost anything conceivable besides there being a man in the sky.

>>511261628
>But this has nothing to do with atheism intrinsically.
Proof?

>>511261029
fair enough. I figure there's like biological baseline or a potential underneath it all that's trying to express itself. I'm not a pagan but I know how I feel when nature walking and I literally care more about one old tree than the entirety of kalkutta. is just in the blood of ethnic europeans and the christians had to put the axe to it. same with christmas I guess, that's not a middle eastern holiday obviously but something originating from the cold of the winter solstice.

>>511261628
the common argument here is to ask you if you believe in vishnu or such. no? so you're an atheist, at least in terms of hinduism

>>511261628
>Atheism is not a belief system.

Not true Atheism is the belief that Chistianity isn't real but of course all of the other religions are okay. You only ever see Atheists attack Chirsian societal values trying to distort and tear them down but of course they never touch Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. societies in any major way. The most they will do with the other religions is talk about them but when it comes to Christianity atheists will actively go after it.

>>511261988
I attack Christianity because most religious white people in the west are Christians, other religions are irrelevant. I believe Christianity is the engine of Jewish power and White genocide. Other religions are typically followed by non-whites, I don't give a shit about what nonsense those people believe.

In case you are too dumb to notice the subtlety.
Gasai Yuno is literally Juno. The queen of the Gods.

https://youtu.be/LLDA9cfRLlg?si=HwXDe3bFB-ynHRsP

>>511261988
you just don't want to hear it and christianity is still mainstream where we live. buddhism had a lot of stupid shit as well, like the thai version where buddhas horse went to heaven and became a god. the tibetan buddhist stuff might molest children systematically in secret rituals and did a lot of weird shit before the chinese took over. muslim? guys like dawkins vocally complain about it to the point where they call themselves culturally christian. neverminding the whole shit about boyfucking thursdays and whatnot. jews? is just a neurotic mess with the them burying plates and whatnot trying to out-lawyer god with kosher light-switches so they don't need a shabbo's goy on sabbat.

>>511262316
>I believe Christianity is the engine of Jewish power

Western countries have gotten less Christian and Jews have gained even more power because of it especially in places like Western Europe. How is Christianity the engine of jewish power again? Sounds more like secularism and atheisim is their true engine of power and weapon against whites. I mean there is a direct correlation between western countries turning less and less Christian and jewish power growing plus the countries getting browner. It is clear as day at this point.

>>511260425
>Godtards studiously avoid the 9,999 other gods besides their favourite one
It's not even about their "favorite one". It's specifically the precise god the community they were born in believes in.

>>511258322 (OP)
>atheism
>religion
>Are they false choices?

Consult Abel and Cain and critically think about the context.
Abel simply trusts the blood of the lamb.
Cain trusts his own effort with no blood.

Cain kills Abel when God rejects Cain’s. Cain is a religious man, he’s directly interacting with God in context and still doesn’t trust him. This has nothing to do with atheism, it’s a false categorization. If religious men could deny Jesus while he preformed miracles in front of them, then atheists using evidence is a complete and total distraction in that regard. Assuming a God existed, the evidence for him would literally be everything. The athiest will never assume this. It’s a total lack of faith. That’s the actual issue, it’s not on the basis of rationality that they deny God, it’s just cope because they know if they outright acknowledge him and then reject him, they know what comes after.


So naturally, these people will just cope with themselves holding onto some spiteful mindset as it railroads them to hell because they don’t want to admit they’re not a perfect person.
Religion enables this mindset even more to a far more MILITANT degree because religious people aren’t necessarily believers. You don’t need to believe in a God to be religious and you don’t need to be religious to believe in God.

Religious people trying live by a perfect law are condemned, because they’re trusting themselves. Where as a believer accepts the condemnation from the law, but appeals to God’s grace by believing the gospel. Which is quite literally what the Bible is suggesting you do.
Religious people then get pissed because you refuse to cling to your pride like them, they may attempt to kill you or something of that caliber, slander you, deliberately misrepresent what you say….

Yeah there’s no difference between atheism and religion, both of them reject the gospel. At this point religion becomes physical evidence of Satan’s existence

>>511261988
>Atheists attack Chirsian societal values

>>511262686
>How is Christianity the engine of jewish power again?

>>511258322 (OP)
No, there's a real choice between order and anarchy. However if you choose Catholic modernism or protestantism you choose theological anarchy anyway, so in that sense it's not that different from atheism.

>>511260425
Go back to r/atheism. Also, little fedora, monotheists agree that there's one God only.

>>511258761
Thats my wife

>>511263242
We can settle this in a battle to the death.

>>511263188
remember my grandma praying to saints when she lots her keys. it's not polytheism because the saints just petition god but have now power of their own

>>511258322 (OP)
>christians vote for the most jewish pedophile ever because jesus told them to
>you know me and the athiest have alot in common
is there a single christian who doesnt lie as much as they breathe?

>be atheist
>none of the drivel written itt applies to me
Why do non-atheists always make up all these wild headcanons about atheists?

>>511263019
>Ted Cruz is the chosen representative of all Christians and represent all Christian values

Even in Germany jewish power has increased dramatically plus you have become browner just like everyone else ever since Germany became more of a secular atheist country. Germany is far more secular than it has ever been its past that is a fact, so it is Christianity causing all of this how?

>>511263644
Lie about what?

>>511263689
yes, and it was angela merkel head of the christian democratic party doing it. and her mentor helmut kohl refused to send the turks home in the early 90s. and the super pro-israel alternative for germany was largely founded by former CDU members wants to go back to the helmut kohl era and is headed by a lesbian married to a sri-lankan woman who's going to import a billion indians instead

>>511261988
Atheism is ‘lack of belief in the existence of deities’, so when you falsely claim it’s NOT that but something else, you are LYING about atheism and atheists.

>The most atheists will do with the other religions is talk about them
Post documentation for burning Korans and pissing on them = “TALKING about Islam”.

>>511263657
Yes, sadly religious anons LIE blatantly

>>511264029
>Angela Merkel = Christian

What makes her or that political party Christian other than in name only? Can you show me some Christian initiatives they have taken other than them just calling themselves Christians therefore they must be?

Even from the way you describe it it sounds like just a shell political party for something else but it just wears the Christian moniker to sound appealing to the masses.

>>511263301
Sure! I'll discipline that unfaithful bitch after I teach you a lesson
*Unsheathes bible glowing with the power of jesus*

HAME... HAME...

>>511264403
who are the real christians according to you? not the fake ones

>>511264336
Yeah on paper it says that is what it is but in practice it is nothing more than a battering ram against Christian society, it is obvious that is what it is. If anything atheists are lying to themselves saying they are anything but.

>Post documentation for burning Korans and pissing on them
That's your job to do that. Show me where atheists en masse not some one off went after other religions to the degree they go after Christianity.

>>511264613
if he was mentioning someone like the guy in the netherlands who got killed for criticising islam you would just say he's not a real atheist.

>>511264421
No need to be jealous. I will eventually lobotomise you into becoming my bitch. The whole world is my fuck toy. All of you belong to Me.

>>511264495
It's not about real or fake Christians even from your own description of this christian democratic party by their own actions it doesn't seem like there isn't anything Christian about them and are just a front group. It is pretty plain to see they just put Christian in their name to sound more appealing than what they really are. Do you actually believe angela merkel is a Christian even though she is an admitted Communist and even when you look up her background she was fairly high up in the Communist sect she was a part of?

>>511264834
I don't know anything about that story so I can't comment on it despite your snarky comment of putting words in my mouth on the subject.

>>511264863
her father was a pastor. which is to the point because by your own set of standards there aren't any real christians only opportunists using it to game the system

>>511259128
It never felt that way to me. Growing up atheism and agnosticism felt like two sides of the same coin, then Dawkins, Hitchens and co started getting airtime and everyone had to have an opinion on the lack of a belief.

>>511264971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)

>>511262701
Yes, making it their favourite one.

>>511264837
Ohh its you, dude you have to get a trip code to skip the formalities. I always wondered what you mean by I own 4chan and 4chan belongs to me, but I wasnt aware that you also owned the world.

>>511265116
Katy Perry's father is also a pastor and look at all the shit she is involved in. Your argument doesn't even make sense that because someone is related to someone in their family who worked in Christian religious institutions that automatically makes them Christian through and through. You are aware we are talking Angela Merkel not her father. Do you believe being related to a Christian automatically makes you a Christian as well?

>>511263188
>hat
>reddit
Godtards are forced to bleat these words because they literally have nothing else. The fact that they can't come up with anything coherent should be a lightbulb moment for them, but it never is.
*godtards*
>monotheists agree that there's one God only
HURR OTHER GODTARDS AGREE WITH ME
Crikey. You're as dumb as dogshit, champ.

>>511265847
I dunno anon. she was head of the christian party, called herself a christian, was endorsed by people calling themselves christian, had a christian father and went to church. what was she?

>>511264837
Is that you Jesus? Stop shitposting and do your fucking job!

>>511258322 (OP)
There's only 2 options because Christians destroyed all other European cultures and religion.

You get to pick between your preferred flavor of Judaism for Gentiles (Christianity or Islam), and nothing (atheism). Enjoy.

>>511261988
Nobody attacks the other religions because they don't get involved in law and schooling you dumbass. also only Christians project Jews

>>511261247
Always move forward. Trying to return to something that presents outdated ideas and is no longer compatible with a people like Whites, who have always been scientifically inclined, isn't the answer. Rather turning the population to a doctrine that not only provides a way of life but answers lining up with today's science is a better idea.

>>511266011
So it doesn't matter whether or not someone acts like a Christian should all that matters is other people call them and they call themselves Christian? Her Christian beliefs and those around them should reflect through her actions not who she is related to or she sits in a church. Look at how much downhill Germany went under her leadership both being liberal and browner.

>>511261247
Christianity is retarded nonsense incompatible with modern education and the free flow of information. Going back to Christianity means going back to primitive society were people don't know anything.

>>511266065
kek

>>511266548
I get what you're saying but I dunno who would qualify as a christian by that standard. imo you're doing a no true scotsman thing where anybody doing something that makes christianity look bad isn't a christian. then some people argue that everybody who even hinted at being atheist and did something bad is 100% representative for all of atheism. maybe not you personally but that's how it goes usually

>>511266817
I'm just saying if someone like Angela Merkel and this christian democratic party were truly Christian Germany would have logically become a more conservative country in some ways but it didn't all it did was stay liberal and flooded with brown people.

>>511266781

See, the problem with this particular field of arguementation is that atheists project the idea that they think they’re God onto him when they examine the text. Which is why when they pick up on what he does using a perfect moral law, their own subjective relative opinion of him is going to be terrible because they will never assume that he’s doing it for good reason.

Roman’s 9 talks about all of this crap, the text dismisses the claim that God does infact show favoritism for Jacob over Esau when the basis for choosing had nothing to do with them, it had everything to do with what God had planned. This completely negates the point atheism uses by appealing to emotion, where Satan is clearly trying to get you to come together with the world against God just because God picked Jews to establish the context for Christ and so that’s you’d know the difference between religion and believing the gospel.

If you were God, and you had to provide the context for man to understand why things had to be the way they are, exactly how do you go about doing it?
You respond with a limited relative opinion. Most likely appealing to your race, culture whatever.

That was his point in doing all the work for you, because you’re incapable of meriting what he alone could provide and most people do not want to admit this because it destroys your pride. He does all of this because he HATES pride on the fact that it literally enabled this clusterfuck you call the world to occur.

So in short, I’m not worshipping dick clippers who self righteously assert they’re gods chosen, when they don’t actually believe in him and are merely religious retards using the law to arrogate what the book says is a title that only belongs to believers of Jews and gentiles. Gods plan for the Jews is to have them go through the end times to help spread the gospel after the church gets removed from the context to send the first warning shot across unbelievers.

>>511267261
and I'm saying these christian conservatives largely don't seem to exist but here and there in america. sure as shit don't exist in the vatican but then catholics aren't christian either

>>511258322 (OP)
You know it's not the fact that it's 2 party that makes it bullshit right? Adding in more parties won't help.

>>511258322 (OP)
Yes, it's another distraction.
>>511258421
Sure they're different but that can be applied to other culture war nonsense too. Take trannies for example. They're objectively not women but the argument is used to give a win to neocons while everything else continues to degrade.

>>511262471
Tibetan Buddhism has some controversy that comes from people abusing the Dakini teachings. It can be hard to find a Dakini, so some people, against the Buddhas teachings, decided to force someone, be it young girls, kidnapped women and unfortunately even young boys, into being Dakinis. Those practices have been condemned multiple times and don't represent all Tibetan Buddhists.

>>511258322 (OP)
>are christianity and atheism just another false choice like the two-party system?
Yes, it's a false dialectic to get people to worship the jewish god

>>511268328
fair enough

>>511264613
>atheists are lying to themselves saying they are anything but.
Religion/non-religion is a 100% private matter, so no-one here ever talks about it, and we don’t know what each other are - you have revealed yourself as a LIAR and even falsely accuse ordinary honest people of LYING: extremely embarrassing!

>Show me where atheists en masse not some one off went after other religions to the degree they go after Christianity.
We don’t know who are atheists or christians or who have other religions, and since religion/non-religion is not an issue here, no-one “goes after” others - but as a population flooded with Muslims we fight against their Islamic violence, and throughout many years Korans have been burned by native DANES, not by irreligious/religious groups as such groupings don’t exist here.

>>511258322 (OP)
This was true before Trump.
He's just pretending to protect the pedos, you'll see.

>>511269439
it's like santanism and church. sometimes the priest doing latin mass is the same guy doing black masses

>>511269786
If you’re judging by the law everyone is fucked.
If you’re judging by the gospel then only people still under the law are fucked.

Religious people still fall under the law, and they tend to think they’re justified by what they do rather than what Jesus did.

Oyy mate That seemed like a hate crime

>>511258322 (OP)
Nope. Atheism is literally the most incoherent and retarded worldview you can possibly have btw. It’s literally nonsense. Atheists submitted to the fact that a first order cause is necessary for intelligibility so they came up with the Big Bang as a story time cop out.

>>511272015
tbf supporting the secular goverment of israel because the bible said so seems pretty retarded

>>511272444
The Bible actually says the exact opposite. Zionist Jews took advantage of the power vacuum in Protestant institutions to redefine the Bible, spread propaganda, and create a heresy. It’s also why Protestants freely engage with Satanic Freemasonry. Pride was the first sin.

>>511272598
the bible says a lot of stuff that's contradicting itself

>>511272780
Such as?

>>511258322 (OP)
The abrahamic notion of god is dumb and stupid and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Other religions have healthier beliefs.

>>511273024

>>511258322 (OP)
Jesus Christ was a pedophile schizo with a God complex.
>Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used)
>When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me”
>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
>When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes”
>The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers
>Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid and afterwards had them all crucified
>Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes
There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.

>>511273170
>first one

Jealously of a human adulterer is referred to, not God

>2nd one

Two different words translated; first “tempt” means to test/prove, 2nd is about sinful temptation

>3rd

His nature and purpose do not change. The choices of humans can result in different judgments though.

>4th

Jesus and God and Holy Spirit are all equal, Jesus intentionally takes on a lesser form as man temporally which is the sacrifice

>5th

God saves, but judges at the end - distinction in temporal reality

>6th

Implies “upright” means the same as sinless, incorrect

>7th

Works without faith vs beliefs without action. You need both.

>8th

Not even a contradiction, maybe wrong verse?

>9th

One can return from the grave if God wills it in a miraculous sense

>10th

Refers to unrepentant vs repentant sin. Through repentance and awareness Christians can avoid and be forgiven for sins if they are genuine in repenting.

>>511261988
I personally attack all Abrahamic religions equally. They all suck and have negative impacts on the world. Others I think are either neutral or not large enough to be relevant.

Whites need a new religion as per Duran Duran, this is where their old beliefs come into play. I’m not going to call it paganism because that is an incorrect slur from Christians, their version of goyim or infidel
Something that is national and not global like Islam and Christianity

>>511258322 (OP)
Yes, christianity is not done, it's a psychological process. It's not abou being certain, it's about the process.

>>511272015
The big bang theory says nothing about it being the first cause. The big bang simply states the the universe was at one time in a hot dense state. It makes zero claims about how it came about. We don't know how reality came to be, and we will likely never know. But inventing a sky wizard is not in any way useful for understanding existance. You can't just make up random shit.

>>511258421
>>511258322 (OP)
The third parth is Emanationism

Take the Henotic pill

>>511274667
>Emanationism
sounds a bit like daoism

>>511273312
>Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid

God i love deep roman lore, trve kino

Very hillmanpilled post btw

>>511268655
Indeed.
>>511272015
The big bang theory makes more sense when you see it from the "Bindu" point of view. That there was the word OHM in the beginning and this was the expansion of the pure consciousness into the pure energy and the first vibration. The Bible says something similar when it says in the beginning there was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

>>511261029
Wow dude a really great convo. Thanks for posting. These bots are getting so sharp

>>511273312
The Greek νεανίσκος (neaniskos) means “young man” and can refer to someone in their teens to early adulthood, roughly under 40, not necessarily a minor.
Mark 14:51–52 (the fleeing naked youth), and another in Mark 16:5 (the young man at the tomb). Neither refer to the apostles. No biblical basis supports the claim that all apostles, except Peter, were underage.
There’s no Gospel narrative where a woman asks Jesus why he associates with children and he responds “don’t scandalize me.”
Fishers of men is a reference to the people that “catch” people—drawing them into the Kingdom of God through teaching, preaching, and discipleship.
At the Last Supper in John 13, Jesus washes his disciples’ feet—but he is dressed (in a towel around his waist), not fully naked. There’s no biblical account of him being naked while performing this act.

In Mark 14:51–52, a young man wearing only a linen cloth runs away naked after Jesus’s arrest.
He is otherwise unknown—no indication he’s one of the apostles, nor that he’s involved in anything scandalous.
The Gospels do not mention a “public park” or a specific time like 4am. The scene unfolds in the Garden of Gethsemane at night, but there’s no precise timestamp given.
You need to fact check all the nonsense you see on the internet, all other claims are debunked if you want to see the rest.

>>511274255
>a hecking sky wizard

This shit is so tired and old.

The Triune God is existence itself. All of it. Human existence, particularly. The fact that the Christian God is correct can be analogically reduced from observation of reality. No other God/theology fits the bill. You’re here arguing for a correct view of the universe with zero basis or justification for it even possible for there to be a correct or true view of anything. Empirical science and the scientific method was a process derived from the presupposition that the rational, eternal Logos of Christianity ordered the universe in a structured way and would allow us to discover it and to discern reality. Cope and sneed

>>511275039
That's how I read it with out the Vatican Jesus was in the Word of God and in the grace of marry.

>>511275039
>>511276412
Word = Logos = Christ. Order, reason, structure, intelligibility. God is these things; the essence of the natural universe. Christ as man embodied them fully in human form. God is logic and order. Logic and order was with God. For humans, we experience them separately, though they are of the same essence - hence distinct persons, in a single Godhead.

>>511276072
You can believe in logical reality without thinking the universe thinks like a guy

>>511276786
Humans are given rationality because we are made in the image of God, not the other way around, which is why we can understand creation. There is no logical reality without an underlying, unchanging essence which structures reality and governs what is true or is not true outside of ourselves.

>>511276786
A belief in something doesn't = justified true belief.

>>511276941
>There is no logical reality without an underlying, unchanging essence which structures reality and governs what is true or is not true outside of ourselves
Sure, but religions assume that whatever that is thinks and acts like us. It's pareidolia.

>>511276072
The problem is not in the teaching itself its in the followers. Well, one problem does lie in the teachings and it's that much of it is in code, so people aren't understanding that they can be like Jesus, they're just worshipping him as an external deity. Many of them don't even try to be like him. One way to fix that would be to make Kabbalah public to the followers and clear up these misunderstandings, starting with Atmans identification with Brahma, so that the world can attain Buddhahood.
>>511276412
That's good. I want to make it clear I'm not insulting the inner foundations of Christianity, what I'm saying is outdated is the concept of an external God. It keeps people enslaved to not know God within. In a way, denying this would be "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit".

>>511258322 (OP)
Yeah they are congrats on reaching level 2 good job lot of these folks are retards wrong board though

>>511277087
Incorrect. If you operate within a coherent logical structure, and accept a supernatural first order cause of the universe, it serves that same logical structure that the creator of the natural universe must be able to embody all attributes within its creation and beyond. Or in other words, something that can create humans must by necessity be able to fully encompass and understand all of human existence and ability within its own nature. If humans are a product of a creator, of course the creator would itself possess at bare minimum all faculties that humans can possibly have.

>>511276652
But in the end ultimately....

I hated those fuckers who showed to condom me that killed 200,000 children under the age of two at my birth.
That's who I have a fucking sword against.

Got Jesus got to support the synagogue of Saton.

>>511258322 (OP)

King of the Jews.

>>511277370
what's level 3 friend

It really gives me a sense of vertigo when I realize how many humans around me are completely unhinged violent psychopaths kept in check by their belief in infinite punishment for finite crimes. Really? You can't behave yourself unless a lake of fire is constantly visible in the distance with your fucking name on it? We're all going to fucking die.

>>511276652
If understood that way you align with the Kabbalistic teachings. Christ was one with the father, if you compare that to Rigpa (translated as Gnosis in English) it just means he was operating with the pure consciousness, the pure awareness which is known as Buddha nature and is inherent in all but to stay that way is an attribute of enlightenment.
When Kether is activated in people it is said you have eaten from the tree of life (Kabbalistic tree of life), and the Kabbalistic tree of life has both the masculine and feminine, light and darkness within it and on both sides. Boaz and Jachin. These 2 sides connect to Kether which is above and between them. This shows that to eat from the tree of life is to attain the non-dual state, undoing the damage caused by eating from the tree of knowledge and becoming aware of good and evil.
Masonic checkered floors represent this duality, it symbolizes the starting point on a Masons journey.
You can skip all of this stuff and just practice Tibetan Buddhism to get the same results. Hindu yogis achieve this too, and Taoists, and Kabbalists, but Vajrayana is called the "Thunderbolt Path" for a reason. It's fast and effective, but don't think I'm shunning the other schools of Buddhism either. They all have excellent things to teach, so does Hinduism, Taoism, many systems, but this one is a straight-ticket to Buddhahood.

>>511277421
Just because it could doesn't mean it would. Things like anger and love matter to us because we're finite. An infinite thing wouldn't have the same restrictions so it wouldn't act human, and religions always have deities acting like us because it's what we know.
>>511277904
The amount of people that would be psychos without their religions is probably very low. We see religious people act against their religions based on their morals, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't still be good without it.

>>511258322 (OP)
It's a false choice known as the Clown World Fork: https://vjmpublishing.nz/?p=23427

>>511278091
Except God/Christ is an explicitly personal force. He encompasses all of reality; love, passions, emotions, as well as logic, reason, etc. If we accept Christ as the embodiment of reason and God reaching out to reveal Himself directly, we must take to heart everything he taught, and he certainly didn’t teach that you could achieve some enlightenment outside of Him

>>511278266
The Christian God is able to love because it is comprised of the Trinity; the Father loves the Son outside of Himself. This is the basis of all human love and connection to others and why/how we are capable of it at all. It is the basis of the relationship between child and parent and the family. No other theological framework addresses this aspect of reality. Most are impersonal, which is their weakness; humans are innately relational, existence is personal, an impersonal God would be incapable of creating personal existence.

>>511258421
>Hey guys, let's all throw out these well tested guides of morality because my parents were too strict when I was a kid
>World turns into literal hell
>HOW could this happen!?
Belief in God or not, your rampant fedora tipping is the root cause of why our society is collapsing. Cheers for that, cunt.

>>511278591
That's the problem with Christianity. The enlightenment Christ taught is extremely misunderstood and it's been twisted, gospels have been removed, and it's now a shadow of what it's supposed to be. Take this for example, from the Book of Mary. Does this not sound like Buddhism? Being released from a world by overcoming desire?
God encompasses everything, this means you too. Atman, your spirit, is a piece of Brahma. To reach the enlightened state is to not only know this, it's to operate on that level. As God in the flesh. Rigpa itself, and by achieving this you will attain siddhis. One of the most famous Siddhis, Jala Gamana, may ring a bell for you. It's the ability to walk on water by controlling your aura. Point is, Christianity as it is now needs to go so that, in a way, true Christianity can be practiced and the Dharma can be brought back to the world and the world can eat from the tree of life and conquer death.

>>511279390
>the Book of Mary

Literally a 4th century era heretical text that was never accepted by any of the church fathers because of blatant contradictions with the established canon. Your blend of pajeet schizo babble is entertaining but it’s incoherent nonsense, unfortunately. Consequences of the west being flooded last century with this garbage by jews and pedo degenerates like Crowley.

>>511279697
Yeah, exactly. Those "fathers" corrupted things and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
You are blaspheming the holy spirit, believe it or not. To say God is not within you, and you are not a temple of the Lord, is to blasphemy Shekhinah. Buddhas work with God working through them in this way, so to say they're not doing these things through attaining the enlightened state is like saying Jesus wasn't doing those things by having God, the pure consciousness and energy, the Father and the H.S., work through him.

>>511258322 (OP)
yes

>>511279980
>just become God bro do sex magic like Rajindahar and elevate your status, don’t trust the Church fathers and direct witnesses trust the forged Egyptian schizobabble telling you you can just become God

I’m good. Enjoy indulging in the ultimate sin though, usually doesn’t work out well.

>>511258322 (OP)
yes, they're both NPC retards
>elaborate
no thank you

>>511280152
No, you're misunderstanding. Eating from the tree of knowledge to "be like God" was that first "sin" I talked about here. >>511278091
To attain the non-dual state is to undo that damage, through this, you will have eternal life (you'll get out of Maya/Samsara and conquer death).
Trust in me, follow this path, and you'll have eternal life. You'll fix that damage of descending into the material world. That's what the Garden of Eden is symbolism for, by the way.
Everything I'm telling you is what the inner priests have kept secret. That's why I told you to just skip past this and follow the Thunderbolt Path.

>>511280390
Dualism is cringe retardation. Your worldview is ontologically incoherent. I have already achieved eternal life by the grace of God and have no cravings or fantasies of attaining divine power. Have fun on the Thunderbolt Path, just remember Christ is always open to you if you return with an open heart and are absolved by the Apostolic successors.

Christianity is embedded in prophetic tradition. It's literally a book written over thousands of years by different people all containing evidence of God. All of the prophecies came true.

>>511280716
name 3

>>511280679
Dualism is the foundation of the Genesis story. This is the shit they fed you to keep you enslaved and acting like a caveman by worshipping someone who did things you didn't think could be done. That's nigger shit and is the opposite of what the guy was trying to tell you. The kingdom of God is within you anon. In the right hand of him that sat on the throne was a book written within and on the back side, and it was sealed with seven seals. You've got seven chakras and to open them the cerebral spinal fluid ascends up the spine, the 33 vertebrates, and the right side of the brain is accessed in full. That's the right hand. You see what I mean? They encoded a lot of this because that's the "Jewish" way. The Jews have always taught that their inner teachings of Kabbalah are for them only and the scraps of what they write in code is for you. I'm saying just skip past that shit because the knowledge is for you too. You are demonstrating why this religion is no longer compatible with Whites, it's too primitive and Aryans are too intelligent.
But, in the end all I can do is tell you. If you choose to follow this religion and bow down to something, that is on you.

>>511258322 (OP)
Christianity is cuckservatism with metaphysics, atheism isn't a belief system, so yes, neither is sufficient for forward motion.

>>511280860
>Ezekiel 26:3-14
The fall of Tyre
>Isaiah 44:28–45:4
Named Cyrus over 100 years before his rise
>Jeremiah 25:11-12; 29:10
The Babylonian exile and its duration

They're both universalistic shit. The rednecks are the new pagans(that used to live far from cosmopolitan Weimarian cities). Both of them wants you to deny your roots over the (((good news))). Jesus himself told people to fight their relatives. Jesus himself started the all-mother bullshit.
They're all about gospels over blood.
It's not a matter of going against "good morals".
Despite all Christcucks say, pagans had morals, yet descentralized.

TL;Dr:
Paganism= morals AND blood > morals > blood
Cuckristianity and atheism= current morals > race.
Sometimes I agree with what Jews did to the 2025 year old Marxist.

>>511281507
You're literally a Brazilian

>>511258322 (OP)
yes but instead of false choice of two options you are given untold billions of false options

>>511281589
Banana. BANANA!