Thread 512114588

Looking at it from this pyramid perspective it baffles me that people (peasantry is a more accurate term) has been convinced that picrel is the best balanced healthiest diet.

Human beings are persistence hunter-gatherer ruminants, with a stomach as acid as a vulture's, intestines optimized for game, and teeth to tear through flesh. The brain is literally composed of fat and heavy cholesterol smd the body is a mammal's without multiple stomachs to ferment fiber.

With this information picture this: The (((medical establishment))) of the overlords has normies eating literal dry seeds with toxins, industrial mass-agriculture grain empty-calorie gruel, mutated fruit sugar and beans that essentially wreck your insides into sharting for two days, vegetables that rot in your gut, all fried in seed and vegetable oils refined from shit-colored sludge in huge filthy steel presses with petroleum derivatives so that you can shit rock hard bleeding corn-turds every second day (unless you're Americano then the GMO's and chemicals give you diahrrea thrice a day).

Carnivore hard poop's are a lie. Carnivore-induced ketosis is literal predator-beast mode for humans. They feed you feudal serf diets and call it "Mediterranean".

>>512114588 (OP)

Homo sapiens are 300,000 years old. Our predecessors, several millions. Agriculture is 10,000 years old. The only "healthy food" they had until then was digging up roots when there wasn't game around.

Try an animal-based diet for a couple days and experience higher satiation, reduced appetite, more energy, a sharper mind, and a new-born ferociousness.

Animal offal is many times cheaper than muscle meat and many more times as nutritious. I get half a kilo of beef liver for 2 euros. So try it. Or don't because it's "icky". The faggots filter themselves.

>hunter-gatherer
this term is a psyop, humans were predominantly hunters

>>512114588 (OP)
made this in paint?

On another topic: does the taste and effects of black coffee make up for its drawbacks?

>>512114987
Google.

Red meat, eggs, fruit, raw honey, and raw dairy
Fish now and then
I have autoimmune flare ups unless I eat like that

>>512114588 (OP)
>10% + 15% + 15% + 20% + 20% + 25% + 25% + 50% = 180%
Hoes is this supposed to work?

>>512114873
> Animal offal

Oh by the way, on that. Your "balanced" goy diet is deficient in Vitamin A, D, K2, B12, as well as Iron, Calcium, Zinc, Omega-3, Folate, cholesterol and animal fat.

Basically everygthing you need for brain function, joint and bone health, skin health, healthy hormones AKA testosterone. Instead they tell you to eat oranges, get sunlight and tale collagen pills. Meanwhile I hit the raw milk daily and eat organ meats twice a week, essentially taking natural steroids and running on animal fat. Like the Steppe peoples of the world that dominated it and established themselves as the Aristocracy, parasiting off the peasants to dedicate themselves to the development of warfare, fitness, selective breeding and eventually the arts did.

>>512114588 (OP)
Serbians are true men and hunter-gatherers, they dont mind having shit smeared around their assholes from awful diet.
Come to think of it, it might even be a desirable thing to them.

>>512114896
women gathered while men hunted for that timeline

>>512114588 (OP)
As long as you aren't eating a shit ton of sugar, fatty foods and alcohol or hell, just a shit ton of a single thing you just need to find a consistent diet that works for you and stick to it.

I remember I went down a foodie rabbit hole of what the elite and rich eat, and it's surprisingly very wide and varied in diet, but overall they eat lean meats, lots of fruit and veg, and minimal carbs and sugar was usually kept for deserts, which makes sense eating sugar after a meal means you aren't hitting your system with a sugar bomb.

>>512115565
you aren't in ketosis if you're having raw milk in any kind of substantial quantity daily.

>>512114588 (OP)
obligatory

>>512114588 (OP)
You are 20 years behind the times OP because thats when the food pyramid fell out of favor.

>>512115594
Nigga my meat shits slip out of my ass like it's lubricated and barely have to wipe. It's when I have potatoes or bread that I have to shit out a hard stubby turd.

>>512115598
> women gathered

Woman "work" AKA pretending, tale as old as time

>>512115621
"Elite". There's been so many of them all over the world throughout history that one cannot decide a definitive generalization of diet. I think French Toast was popular among royalty at one point, peasant scrap dishes.

The diet of the true Aristocrat, that is a noble man that seeks eternal self-overcoming, an Aristocrat of the soul, eats probably picrel. Meat as the main element, with vegetables as accesories, and then smaller apperitives such as goat milk sorbet, or concoctions of dairy and herbs for detox and apothecarist purposes.

> I remember I went down a foodie rabbit hole of what the elite and rich eat, and it's surprisingly very wide and varied in diet, but overall they eat lean meats, lots of fruit and veg, and minimal carbs and sugar was usually kept for deserts, which makes sense eating sugar after a meal means you aren't hitting your system with a sugar bomb.

>>512115752
What are you talking about this is what NPCs eat.

>>512116043
>he actually starts talking about defecation
Come on man, I even put the raiffeisen logo and all that.
No but for real I recommend some walnuts and carrots with your meat, fits well and goes good.

>>512115725
Place picrel below eggs.

>>512116219
Last time I had carrots was ayear ago when I made a deworming salad composed of grated carrot and garlic, coconut oil and something else. Felt like my stomach had a void in it for teo days.

>>512116378
>had carrots was ayear ago
They go really well with Italian style minced meat with onions and tomato and are a great addition to meat based foods digestive wise.

>>512116043
>barely have to wipe
this
I eat 18 eggs per day with 3 chicken breasts.
All pan fried with margarine
Lightly seasoned with Celtic salt, pepper, cayenne & plain Greek whole fat yogurt.

My shits are so clean that I just do one insurance wipe to be safe.

If I eat chocolate or pasta, fucking terrible.
Sticky mud that smells gaggingly bad.
All shit smells bad but this smells sickly.
Not to mention the bloating, brainfog and general malaise that comes from eating processed carbs.

If I need carbs, I'll just eat some fruit

>>512116622
>margarine
ngmi

>>512116703
what's wrong with a churned concoction of salt and cream?
Also, I just checked. It's stick butter. I've been calling it margarine this whole time.
I thought butter came from a tub and margarine was in the wax paper

>>512114588 (OP)
This food pyramid is as full of shit as the last one. 50% of the human diet should not be fruits and vegetables.

>>512116936
actual butter is fine, fake butter aka margarine is solidified motor oil

>>512116622
Eggs are good. Chicken is the lowest quality meat so don't go nuts over it. Organs are best. Fish is great.

You need to eat nose-to-tail if you want animal-based to work. You need dairy and collagen. I take a tablespoon of powdered beef collagen daily, becahse I can't be bothered to make broth or aspic. 10e a month.

> margarine

NGMI.

>>512117071
you learn something new everyday
Apparently my thinking on the subject was entirely wrong.
I thought the butter vs margarine was how it was presented.
Butter is from animal sources like cows or goats
Margarine is from 6 different industrial waste products masquerading as food.

I've been using stick butter and calling it margarine my entire life.
goddamnit

you people are fucking retarded
it doesn't matter what you eat

>>512117176
>powdered beef collagen
How do you know it really is?

>>512115565
>I hit the raw milk daily
Too much lactose can kick you out of ketosis. Ferment it as kefir or yogurt.

>>512116043
Egg soaked bread was not a rich person thing anon... I guess maybe it was made "fancy" with sliced bread.
My grandfather's favorite breakfast dish was a egg soaked bread thing, something his mother made when he lived in a small poor Italian village.

>>512117410
> it doesn't matter what you eat

>>512115594
>they dont mind having shit smeared around their assholes from awful diet
You don't wash your arses with water after wiping them with toilet paper, in Austria?

>>512114588 (OP)
>>512114873

this guy gets it

TOTAL
GRAINCEL
DEATH

>>512117465
I don't. Neither do I know that the raw milk I buy weekly from a random seller is from a healthy cow yet here I stand.

Picrel.

>>512114873
>. I get half a kilo of beef liver for 2 euros. So try it. Or don't because it's "icky". The faggots filter themselves.

don't bother trying to tell them. the less normies who know this secret the cheaper animal organs are. those who seek the way of the ubermensch naturally discover a diet based on organ meats

>>512117498
Two glasses a day is well under 50g. Considering I'm a physical beast that's nothing for me.

>>512115510
60% + 60% + 60%

>>512114588 (OP)
A raw vegan diet is the best for a human. And this is why the 'elites' did the anti-vegan propaganda in the alternative media. They want you to wake up but not too much. By cooking, you kill the lifeforce/enzimes/vitamins in the food.

Research the raw vegan diet. Just try it for a week. 1kg banana for breakfast, 5 apples for lunch, 5 cucumbers for dinner. You will feel amazing

>>512117523
French toast, or some form of it, has existed for centuries and was indeed enjoyed by the wealthy and royalty in various forms, though not always under the name we use today.

Origins and Royal Appeal:

Ancient Roots: The earliest known version of French toast dates back to the Roman Empire. A recipe from Apicius (a Roman cookbook) describes soaking bread in milk and sometimes egg before frying it. This dish was likely eaten by affluent Romans, including the elite.

Medieval Europe: In medieval times, what we now call French toast was known in England as "pain perdu" (French for "lost bread"). It was a clever way to use stale bread, but because eggs, milk, and butter were relatively expensive, the dish was more common among the wealthy, including nobility.

Royal Cuisine: Cookbooks from the Middle Ages and Renaissance periods that catered to aristocratic households often included sweetened or spiced versions of fried bread. These versions might include ingredients like honey, cinnamon, or sugar—luxuries at the time—indicating that it was a dish suitable for royalty.


So, was French toast popular among royalty?

Yes, in its earlier forms, it was enjoyed by royalty or the upper classes due to the richness of the ingredients and the culinary sophistication involved. It wasn’t necessarily a staple, but it was certainly known and appreciated in elite circles.

Would you like to see a historical version of a royal French toast recipe?

>>512117756
>1kg banana for breakfast, 5 apples for lunch, 5 cucumbers for dinner.
You will shit your pants after lunch.

>>512114588 (OP)
>eating grains and pure sugar
lol
lmao even

>>512117809
>>512117756

that's how you end up a moggable pissweak runt, ranjeesh

>>512114873
>a new-born ferociousness
I love offal but you're a posturing faggot and you should get a job.

>>512116622
>margarine
lmfaooo kys

>>512114588 (OP)
Rice and grains are for peasants. Eat vegetables, fruit and meat.

>>512117380
use clarified butter/ghee for cooking.
can be hard to find, look in the ethnic section

>>512114588 (OP)
Don't forget our efficiency for gluconeogenesis. The human body needs upwards of 300 grams of glucose per day. The liver can produce that on its own though.
Also as you kinda alluded to, the animals that do eat plants typically ferment those into short chain fatty acids so even they don't live on carbs. Humans don't even ferment carbs at all other than a little bit of fiber.
People will cite how our teeth are meant for eating plants because they aren't all canines. Sure, we keep some teeth that our predecessors had when they had bigger intestines and a cecum. We don't need a mouthful of canines though because we don't tear raw meat off of a carcass. We are designed to use tools to take down prey.

>>512116236
Tongue and heart are just big, dense muscles. Very little value in them and they taste dreadful. Stick to liver, kidneys, sweetbreads and marrow.

>>512117697
What's the difference between collagen and broth?

>>512117939
Epigenetics are real. Wolf's Law is proven. It's all hormones bro. And I'm biohacking, scrow.

>>512118039
You can make clarified butter very easily with a frying pan and a sieve/cheesecloth.

>>512117756
There are so many phytotoxins in raw plants. A lot of them block absorption of nutrients. You are basically poisoning yourself daily and being proud of how well your body manages to cling to life.

>>512118105
do they just turn all that to ground meat in america? its not common to get any of that pic in the store. maybe liver, bull cocks are turned into dog treats, and gizzards. I've seen a tongue maybe once

>>512118105
I was emphasizing testicals.

>>512114588 (OP)
>intestines optimized for game, and teeth to tear through flesh
Who told you that? Gymbros on youtube? We have extremely log intestines compare to our body size indicative of a herbivore.
And I dare you to find a single carnivore with flat molars for chewing plants.
This is some retard grade thread.

>>512114588 (OP)
>the overlords has normies eating literal dry seeds with toxins

They use Monsanto’s glyphosate as a DRYING AGENT as the final stage before shipping off grain. Steer way clear of the Mercury god’s slave diet (grain)

>>512118105
fair. eggs are king of food, but beef liver is god-emperor

>>512118136
Broth's when you simmer scraps like tenddons and bones to extract gelatin and collagen.

Gelatin has collagen. I buy aa supplement because I can't be bothered to simmer bones for 12+ hours for a week's supply.

Important for joints, tendons, ligaments, skin, everything except muscle and organs.

Don’t forget fish and collagens. That’s what gives glorious skin.

Plant foods are intended as a medicine. Carbs are for livestock.

>>512118405
cope vegansissy

>>512118405
Are you the 150kg+ soup Pole with the filthy house full of beans and piss bottles?

You know even predators such as pitbulls and tigers have long intestines?

>>512118405
Frugivores and other plant-based primates acquire most of their protein and overall nutrition from what is produced in their cecums, because they are hindgut fermenters. The cecum is a compartment in the hindgut fermenters digestive tract, located right above the colon where dietary fibre is fermented by bacteria, which converts the otherwise indigestible plants into nutritious cecotropes. The hindgut fermenter will then eat this cecotrope once backed out of the anus, which is known as coprophagy. All mammals with a functioning cecum will eat these anally produced cecotropes so they can make full use of those plant fibres, which is something plant-eating humans are yet to do for their special diets.
Also, gorillas eat around 40lbs of food per day, no less than 3% of that food consists of insects. 3% of 40lbs = 1.2lbs worth of insects eaten per day by gorillas.

And our molars aren't flat. Well, maybe yours are.

>>512117739
>well under 50g
You should stay under 5g of carbs per day, to be safe. Milk has about 5% lactose, so half a litre has about 25g.
Ferment it. Lactic acid tastes great.

>>512117845
Have you, yourself ever made "French toast", it's just beaten egg and bread dipped in it and the fried in some sort of far, how is that a exclusuve culinary dish for rich people?

A lot of food history is mostly just overblown lore and myths, like how people loved black pepper to mask the taste of rotten meat, which is a lie.

>>512118294
They'll make ground meat from the lower-quality muscle cuts that they can't sell as steaks. Flat-iron, rumpsteak, etc. They won't use organ meat unless they're making pigfeed or dogfood lol.

You might have difficulty finding them in a supermarket yeah, they usually won't have a large enough market for it to be worth stocking them. If possible you should find a butcher rather than buying meat at a supermarket. Ditto with fish, if you can, buy at a fishmonger.

>>512118781
I've grown so much ever since I started with raw milk in my mid-20s its insane. First time I had a glass I got a hard-on that wanted to shoot out of my crotch. I hear "Mooooo!". I just don't know if I can give it up.

>>512117935
Raw vegans don't eat grains or very little. Like wild rice soaked. Or Essene bread made from fresh ground sprouted wheat dried at low temps.

>>512118796
Great question! Foods like French toast, which originated as a way to use up stale bread, were indeed peasant in origin, but they did eventually make their way into royal and noble cuisine—often in more refined or luxurious forms.

Origin of French Toast:

The earliest versions date back to ancient Rome (called Pan Dulcis), and in medieval Europe it was known as "pain perdu" (French for "lost bread").

It was a thrifty dish: stale bread soaked in milk and eggs, then fried—perfect for peasants making do with leftovers.


Among Royalty:

Yes, royalty and the wealthy did eat variations of it, especially during the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

The rich would use fine white bread, soak it in cream or wine instead of milk, and cook it in butter, sometimes topping it with sugar, honey, or spices like cinnamon—luxuries unavailable to most peasants.

It was often served as a dessert or part of a banquet course.


Why the crossover?

Medieval and early modern cuisine wasn’t strictly divided by class in terms of types of food—more by quality of ingredients and richness.

Wealthy households had access to similar recipes as peasants, but with access to better ingredients and more elaborate preparation.


Summary:

So yes, peasant-origin dishes like French toast were popular among royalty, but they were often elevated into something more decadent. Royals weren’t above enjoying simple foods—just with a lavish twist.

>>512118798
I bought a 1/4 cow last year(from wife's family) but did not have the option for organs from the butcher

>>512119034
Cool bro. Now post your supplement stack.

>>512118631
I ate at least 300 grams of meat today, I just dont justify it with "muh bilology"
>>512118646
Tiger - 300kg, 7m intestine
Human - 100kg, 7m intestine
3 times shorter per body weight. Cope more.
Also, come to Poland, I'll show you what a paved road looks like.

>>512119148
If you ask they might get them in for you, but from what I gather there's not much demand for organ meat in america compared to europe so could go either way.

>>512119273
Have it your way man.

>>512119277
And just by the way the Serbian guy is retarded, organ meat isn't some magic panacea that'll turn you into a gigachad. I'd encourage people to get into it but for purely culinary reasons, not dietary.

>>512119277
>organ meat
not a word and contradictory
>>512119458
>not dietary.
there is good dietary reasons to eat organs

>>512119277
No. There’s a demand. Prices skyrocketed for organ meat once yuppie hipsters wanted diversity food. It used to be cheap and only spics had organ meat. It was seen as poor people food, especially beef tongue. Then hipsters wanted to run food trucks and act cultured and shit, thus increasing demand and prices went up.

>>512119458
Organ meats can be 2-100x more nutritious than muscle meat, not even comparing it to grains or veggies. So, you're the stupid one.

>>512114588 (OP)
fruits are zased tho
banan especially

>>512119458
Dunning-Krueger in action.

>>512119639
Yeah, if you ate meat once a week it would ideally be liver. If you're eating muscle meat daily then you're already going to meet and probably exceed your nutritional requirements. The nutritional density of organ meat is valueless overkill if you're already regularly eating meat.

>>512118993
Dont listen to that guy, lactose is not the same as glucose or fructose.

You can drink as much raw dairy as you want and stay in ketosis, it should be a staple

>>512119847
are you jewish? this is the saddest attempt at doublespeak ever
>dont get into organ meat for dietary reasons
>because your dietary requirements are already fufilled by eating 10x the amount of non organs
what kind of "I cant be wrong" stroke is this.

>>512114588 (OP)
nigger this is an expensive weight loss diet
if you aren't starving of anything the body has no reason to use expensive synthesis pathways over the more direct cracking of incoming nutrients
starving yourself of plant bits and adding more meat is also an option for extreme weight loss

but humans are omnivores, we can eat just about anything and need to eat a little bit of everything to stay healthy
if weight loss isn't the goal you're gonna need a lot of meat AND everything else since a lot of the proteins the body makes use of are made of plant proteins or animal proteins with no crossover
for big gains, peanut curry beef

>>512119983
If you eat meat daily, you will get no nutritional benefit from eating organ meat. If you want to eat 200g of liver a day, by all means go for it, but fucking why lmao

Also there are no Jews in Ireland.

>>512120049
> What is Ketosis?

>>512120049
>peanut curry beef
???

>>512120049
>>512120335
> flag

@Grok can you do a background check?

>>512120160
>Lol, you dumbass, eat 10x the amount of that instead, so you dont need the 1x amount, btw, there is no dietary reasons to eat organs

again, anon, are you a retarded sand person or do you have some sort of narcissism?

>>512120209
your body harvesting muscle tissue to keep the lights on
>>512120335
get beef mince
get peanuts
get chippy curry......if you don't have access to a chippy it's a brand called dinaclass

crush peanuts
bring sauce to boil
cook mince in sauce
add peanut dust and whatever else, creatine and some chilli is a good shout
get a spoon
eat the beef

>>512120867
>crush peanuts
>bring sauce to boil
>cook mince in sauce
>add peanut dust and whatever else, creatine and some chilli is a good shout
>get a spoon
>eat the beef

>enjoy the braps

>>512120912
oh aye and make sure to eat a roll or something the same day so you don't shit yourself
add in a couple of chicken breasts if you are working out more than a few days in a row

>>512119755
Goddammit. Those foods are absolutely FOUL.
One time I was trying to be healthy, so I got a tub of chicken livers. Thought I could incorporate them into my diet. Cooked some, tried to add them into my other foods, but it was DISGUSTING. I threw out the tub, as there was no way I could eat that shit.
Any type of pills, condensed oil pills (similar to fish oil pills, which I can swallow 5-6 at a time no problem) that give you somewhat similar to eating the whole organs?
I want to be healthy and get nutrients my normal diet with steaks and whatnot, but do NOT want to have to eat that crap.
What's a cheat method to getting intake of these organs?

>>512120867
Just like libtards, graincels cannot form an argument without being dishonest and disingenous. You twisted little thing:

Ketosis is a metabolic state in which your body shifts from using carbohydrates (glucose) as its primary source of energy to using fat. When you're in ketosis, your liver breaks down fat into molecules called ketones, which then serve as fuel for your brain, muscles, and other tissues.

How It Happens:

Normally, your body gets energy from glucose, which comes from carbohydrates (like bread, rice, sugar, etc.). But when carbs are very limited — such as during fasting, a ketogenic (keto) diet, or after prolonged exercise — your body runs low on glucose. To compensate, it:

1. Burns fat for energy.


2. Produces ketones from that fat in the liver.


3. Uses ketones as an alternative fuel source.
Signs of Ketosis:

Weight loss

Decreased appetite

Increased energy or mental clarity

Fruity-smelling breath (due to a ketone called acetone)

More frequent urination


Common Ways to Enter Ketosis:

Ketogenic Diet: Very low in carbs (usually <50g per day), high in fat, moderate in protein.

Fasting: Going without food for extended periods.

Prolonged intense exercise: Depletes glycogen stores.


Medical Uses:

Epilepsy treatment (especially in children)

Studied for type 2 diabetes, obesity, neurological disorders, and even cancer therapy in some contexts.


Let me know if you want a breakdown of the keto diet or how to tell if you're in ketosis.

>>512120625
Again, if all you want to eat is 200g of liver a day, go for it, but that's completely fucking insane.

>>512121323
I fry all my organs in cast iron with lard. Seasoned with salt and pepper, medium rare. Add sauted sliced onion.

Sometimes its delicious. Sometimes not so much. The knowledge that it is good for me filters everything else out.

Every Saturday morning I go to the flea market to pick up my weekly rsw milm supply (5L) and alsp buy half a kilo of any organ meat (beef liver or kidney, chicken guts).

>>512121449
We trigger both Ketosis and Autophagy, like a Corded-Ware Warlord Tigah. Run when you see my red eyes at night, grainoid.

>>512121032
im tellin ya: carrots
>>512121449
I accept your concession

>>512114588 (OP)
Imagine buying this ai slop

>>512119954
>lactose is not the same as glucose or fructose
"This enzyme cleaves the lactose molecule into its two subunits, the simple sugars glucose and galactose" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose#Metabolism
>You can drink as much raw dairy as you want and stay in ketosis
If you were really in ketosis, milk would taste sweet to you and you would know better than to eat or drink sweet stuff.

Meat, dairy, and non-starchy veg. Each as much of each as you want.

>>512114873
>a new-born ferociousness
Shut up faggot lol.

>>512121688
A primarily meat-based diet is not going to trigger ketosis. Excess protein is metabolised into glucose.

>>512120049
>but humans are omnivores
"It is interesting to note that humans, uniquely among the primates so far considered, appear to have stomach pH values more akin to those of carrion feeders than to those of most carnivores and omnivores. In the absence of good data on the pH of other hominoids, it is difficult to predict when such an acidic environment evolved. Baboons (Papio spp) have been argued to exhibit the most human–like of feeding and foraging strategies in terms of eclectic omnivory, but their stomachs – while considered generally acidic (pH = 3.7) – do not exhibit the extremely low pH seen in modern humans (pH = 1.5). One explanation for such acidity may be that carrion feeding was more important in humans (and more generally hominin) evolution than currently considered to be the case [...]" - ["The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome" (2015)](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134116)

>>512122978
simple as.
Wife gets pissed when I order a big class of milk(we are both 75%+ brit isles)

pot roast, carrots, potatoes, beef broth, glass of milk does it get better?

>>512114873
>I get half a kilo of beef liver for 2 euros
Have fun with your heavy metal poisoning in half a year

>>512123150
>A primarily meat-based diet is not going to trigger ketosis.
Yes, it is.
>Excess protein is metabolised into glucose.
The glyconeogenesis you're describing is energetically expensive and unlikely to occur in a ketone-based metabolism (what we call "fat-adapted").

>>512123150
Actually aren't you a raw milk guy? Milk is full of sugars lmao

>>512123296
Throw in some onion gravy and half a bottle of burgundy and you're living like a king.

>>512123452
I.e. if ketosis has already been triggered?

>>512114588 (OP)
>carnitardism
crazy how many retards fell victim to the shilling

>>512124039
Veganism, carnivore diets, keto diets, etc, all fad diets fall into the same pitfall of being fundamentally philistine. They're for spiritual plebs with underdeveloped aesthetic faculties. They're the culinary equivalent of capeshit.

>>512123713
>I.e. if ketosis has already been triggered?
Ketosis is triggered in a day. Becoming fat-adapted takes a month or two.

>>512123296
>carrots, potatoes
NGMI

>>512124580
I make my own pizzas as well on a stone pastanigger.

just eat food but not too much of the same thing. it isn't hard to not be a fat cunt unless you are somehow addicted to junk shit

>>512123394
wiki tell you that's a thing?

>>512118105
Ox tongue is a delicacy, you dumb paddy

>>512124888
I eat brats nearly every day and I'm losing weight

>>512114588 (OP)
I farm rabbits and quails. The eggs, meat, and offal are incredibly good! Far better than store bought.

>>512125184
how fat were you before you started eating brats and how long until you weight nothing? or have you always eatten brats nearly every day and only recently have you started loosing weight. if it's recent you might have some kind of illness

>>512114588 (OP)
this is not the food pyramid i was shown in school

>>512125162
fda approved
nope

>>512125423
this is the new one. you know they found more stuff under the food pyramid recently. fucken Egyptians and hiding shit

>>512125355
no breakfast, taco salad for lunch, 2 brats and chips for dinner.
prolly down 25 lbs since april. I'd be down 40 but I'm a weekend drinker.
I work construction so I burn a lot

>>512125676
if you really think that somehow eatting brats nearly everyday is making you loose weight. not that you are now either eating less than before or burning more fuel than I dunno. maybe you do have an illness

>>512124762
>pizzas
Subsistence food borne out of poverty and subsistence agriculture - just like bread.

>>512117547
don't eat too much fried food, eat a varied diet, don't eat too much, get lots of exercise and sleep 8 hours every day
that's it, that's all you can do the rest is luck

Good thread, Dragomir.

>>512125923
and it's good
just because it's new doesn't mean it's bad
have you ever tried pizza or bread? it's great

>>512125766
I'm eating less and burning more. Brats are nothing special, easy to meal prep when I get home after work already cooked. It could be any meat, sometimes its steak or pork chop but usually brats
but yes brats are my reward for my austerity the rest of the day.
I'm gonna make brats and sweet corn on the grill today.

>>512125327
>farm
No you pets.
Rabbit and quail are absolute poverty tier. Get a goat and chicken anon.

>>512126073
>have you ever tried pizza or bread? it's great
It sure is, right until you figure out that carbs are the reason you have chronic inflammation.
Try keto for a month and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

>>512126296
I think even people who try to go on the potato only diet and shit end up getting sick of it. I imagine you're body starts telling you to eat other stuff by itself. I think fat people need to be treated for addiction instead of weight loss to start with

This is lunch and dinner for me, lost 60 pounds with minimal exercise. Hard boiled eggs, cheddar and black coffee for breakfast. It's all about diet.

>>512126606
Is that jasmine or basmati rice

>>512126606
>This is lunch and dinner for me
your life must really suck, lmao

>>512114588 (OP)
If people actually started eating the food pyramid we'd see a health renaissance in few short years.

>>512114873
>acktually natural lifestyle is exactly the best way to live
>acktually realistic all hunter no gatherer lifestyle is healthier
Humans continued to evolve after agriculture was invented. Lactose and milk fat provided us more resources for our brains. Grains became a source of fast calories that allowed our brains to run even faster. Why do you think those who never invented agriculture were so easily conquered or invented literally nothing? It's a mix of them not being inventive enough to do so and also their brains are running on weak-ass ketone instead of cool burning neuron powering glucose.
Just because refined sugar makes you fat and shit doesn't mean anything. We've coevolved with grain and a diet that includes it.

>>512118105
Lolwut? Cow Tongue is incredible and fried hearts are fine too.

>>512128781
>Humans continued to evolve after agriculture was invented.
10,000 years is not long enough for evolution. You're thinking of adaptation and the cost of it was chronic inflammation.
>their brains are running on weak-ass ketone instead of cool burning neuron powering glucose
On the contrary. Neurons prefer ketone bodies to glucose.

"In humans, both acute and chronic increases in ketone body availability to the central nervous system cause massive changes in cerebral fuel metabolism. In healthy middle-aged subjects, an i.v. infusion of BHB caused approximately 14% decrease in cerebral glucose consumption while oxygen use was unchanged, suggesting that ketone bodies, even when supplied acutely, enter the brain and may be utilized immediately as an alternative fuel to glucose. Similar cerebral metabolic changes have also been demonstrated in young individuals, however, at lower infusion rates, and thus lower BHB concentrations, glucose uptake does not seem to be affected. Together, this suggests an acute cerebral glucose-sparing effect when ketone availability is high." - ["Effects of Ketone Bodies on Brain Metabolism and Function in Neurodegenerative Diseases" (2020)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699472/)

there's a cool cro-magnon living in america, just by the looks of his trapezius you know this guy could survive and thrive in the Mesozoic era

>>512129438
>10000 years not long enough for evolution
Then how do you explain the natural selection of lactase persistence alleles or amylase copy number expansion?
>ketone provide neuroprotective effect against neuroexitatory damage
Possible, because the brain is not running at full energy capacity and can't damage itself through a neuroexcitatory fashion.
I'd like to see how ketone metabolism it impacts long-term cognition, innovation, or life achievements, though

>>512125162
>>512128989
Calling it a delicacy doesn't make it so. Heart meat can be good for stewing if you remove the vessels first but otherwise tough and chewy like low-quality steak.

>>512130252
>Then how do you explain the natural selection of lactase persistence alleles or amylase copy number expansion?
Adaptation to a subsistence diet that came at an unacceptable cost.
>because the brain is not running at full energy capacity
No, don't compare the brain to a machine. That's not how biology works.
>I'd like to see how ketone metabolism it impacts long-term cognition, innovation, or life achievements, though
All data points suggest a clear improvement.

* "Ketogenic diet improved mood including calmness, contentedness and alertness compared to other diet controls.

Individuals on ketogenic diet are less anxious and depressed compared to other diet controls.

Cognitive and emotional stress is lower in individuals on ketogenic diet compared to other diet controls." - ["Ketogenic Diet has a positive association with mental and emotional well-being in the general population" (2024)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900724000704)

* "Together, our results implicate potassium (K+) gradient dysregulation as a mechanism for age-related neural desynchronization and its reversal with ketosis, the latter finding of which is consistent with direct measurement of ion channels." - ["Ketosis regulates K+ ion channels, strengthening brain-wide signaling disrupted by age" (2024)](https://direct.mit.edu/imag/article/doi/10.1162/imag_a_00163/120749/Ketosis-regulates-K-ion-channels-strengthening)

* "Implementing a KD improved CBF and raised BDNF levels in cognitively healthy individuals, indicating that a KD should be assessed for as a potential treatment for conditions associated with reduced CBF." - ["A three-week Ketogenic Diet increases Global Cerebral Blood Flow and Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor" (2025)](https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaf207/8104036?login=false)