Thread 512407130

Does Yahweh commit a murder every time He causes a miscarriage? Jesus said that we should follow in His example, so if Jesus is Yahweh the creator God, then Yahweh created a world of frequent natural abortions (miscarriages), so logically humans should also cause abortions to follow in His example?

Explain this pro-lifers and Christians without admitting the truth of Gnosticism

(pro-tip; you can't)

>>512407130 (OP)
God created your ability to bitch about this.

God also created your ability to grow your testicles, and be a man, and stop bitching about problems that have nothing to do with you.

Which are you choosing, sperg?

>>512407130 (OP)
>death is natural so murder is good

>>512407130 (OP)
Death came into the world because of sin.

>>512407130 (OP)
Vaccine damage

>>512407130 (OP)
Shalom

>>512407249
Adam ate an apple so now Yahweh has to abort fetuses?

>>512407386
That's retarded. Do you think God is doing literally everything that happens? Sin is death, primarily of the soul, and also of the body.

>>512407130 (OP)
>Does Yahweh commit a murder
Murder is unlawful killing, so no.
>Yahweh created a world of frequent natural abortions (miscarriages), so logically humans should also cause abortions to follow in His example?
How does a human cause a "natural abortion" you midwit? It's not natural if humans interfere.

Also your logic is idiotic. Countless trillions of bacteria engage in cannibalism every second. Does that mean humans should eat other humans? No. God isn't causing all the bad stuff in nature. All of it is a domino effect going back to Adam and Eve.

>>512408053
So fetuses miscarry because they have sinned?

>>512407130 (OP)
> if killin is murder then what is a heart attack
kys

>>512408180
So Yahweh invented bacteria as a punishment for Sin? Before Adam ate the Apple there were no bacteria and Eve's reproductive system worked perfectly without any possibility of miscarriage?

>>512408233
Human nature is fallen because of Adam's transgression. That's why the Lord and God Jesus Christ was Incarnate and assumed human nature.

>>512407130 (OP)
I mean this is just an argument about the problem of evil but with kids. We can easily just expand the problem to include children and adults from all different kinds of causes.

Why do storms happen? Why did the astroid hit to kill all the non-avian dianos?? Why did God willingly permit something awful like viruses to exist?

There are lots of answers for and against, but you're not going to get the best one from some anon on 4chan. If you care in good faith look up the strongest arguments for and against. If you just want to prove God doesn't exist why do you care if it doesn't mater, as mater doesn't mater?

>>512407243
/Thread

>>512408383
But if God is perfect, then God must not have created this world because it's flawed and imperfect regardless of human nature. Or are you saying that if every woman was a Saint then there'd be no miscarriages, as miscarriages are punishment for sin?

>>512407130 (OP)
Wouldn't that just be death by natural causes?

>>512407130 (OP)
>If abortion is murder what's a miscarriage?

abortion is you deciding to no giving birth.

in miscarriage you don't decide:
1) youre so fragile, or your DNA so fcked up, lack of vitamines
or 2) you were in the wrong place at the wrong time

>>512408990
Did you figure out that you lost the abortion argument and must now go on an anti-Christian tirade to keep some kind of an argument going?

>>512409005
my fist qualifes as a natural causes?

>>512407130 (OP)
>God lets people die therefore murder is OK
You almost had a point before you pulled that card, next time don't overdo it.

>>512408990
Look at this monkey with the 3d brain trying to comprehend an inter-dimensional being kek

>>512407243
This.
But the bottom line for any pagan or dude lore heresy larpers who don't actually believe in anything are birth rates.
Only Christians and some other religious types are above replacement rates.
Even if you truly consider your position to truly matter, you'll have to figure out how you'll fix the fundamental problem of unbelief systems naturally phasing themselves out.

>>512408712
God can exist, but logically God cannot be All Powerful, All Knowing and All Good.

This is because these attributes contradict one another. For example, if God is All Good, then he cannot be All Powerful, because "being good" would be a limit on His power. An "all good" God would not have the power to do Evil, so he would not be All Powerful. Etc.

Frankly it's important because a people's God is their highest conception of their ideals, and if that conception is logically self-contradictory then that people is mentally handicapped by it.

>>512408358
>responds with nothing but questions after dodging my question and all my arguments
Ok so you're a kike
glad to clear that up

>>512408990
>But if God is perfect,
defined how, and by who? you dont just get to fill that word with whatever meanings you want.

>>512407130 (OP)
>If hitting someone with your car on purpose, what's getting in a car accident?
An accident you retard. Our bodies are imperfect, and occasionally we die in tragedy we have no control over. That said, most miscarriages are preventable.

>But- but God-
All that actually matters is that having an intensely Orthodox religion with strong imagery of solar resurrection, personal moral responsibility, and contextual sin concepts (i.e. murder bad killing enemy good) improves literally every statistically measurable thing about a human population exponentially. Nothing matters but the pattern of effects.

>>512409091

>abortion is you deciding to no giving birth

avoiding sex is also deciding no giving birth, and Priests are supposed to do that?

>>512409466
or He can be all of those things and more and maybe you just dont understand Him well enough to get it? thats possible

>>512409483
OP is probably a jewish bot it hasn't greentexted a single time in this thread. There was an obvious anti-Christ bot thread yesterday that had this exact pattern but it was 10x worse.

>>512407130 (OP)
Involuntary Man slaughter

>>512407386
>>512408233
>>512408358
>>512408990
Imbeciles argue over the specifics of lore, humans operate by pattern recognition.
If believing conceptual Truth briefly walked the earth personified as man, died, and transcended death makes you less gay, it is the right DECISION to believe it.

That's not Pascal's wager. That's not cynical cultural Christianity. It's Natural Law. The belief systems that produce the best results are the closest to the truth. Nothing matters besides results.

Atheists are bad at war and bad at breeding, which is the only evidence any human needs that what they think and what they do is objectively incorrect.

>>512408990
Again, miscarriages are a result of the fall, not some punishment God is meting out for a woman's sins.
>>512409466
Wrong. Evil is contrary to God's nature.

>>512409483
By "perfect" I mean according to the ordinary dictionary definition. Lacking in flaws. In this universe it is not possible to create even a perfect circle; this is only possible in a math equation but not in physical reality. Anything in this reality will have flaws and defects if examined closely enough

>>512409576
>avoiding [sic] sex is also deciding no [sic] giving [sic] birth, and Priests [sic]
Yep, bot confirmed, but that reply was a human taking over the script.
The first time a human typed for OP's ID it greentexted and the grammar was suddenly absolutely atrocious with constant capitalization mistakes and subject-verb disagreements. Every other post it made was perfect grammar but ridiculous capitalization scheme with random word capitalizations.

OP is using a bot

This is a kike thread

>>512409537
>Our bodies are imperfect

Right, they were made by an imperfect creator then. You can judge a potter by his pottery.

>>512409466
Did you just confuse the power to do a thing physically and the intent to do a thing?
Thank God you're such a wimpy pussy I'd hate to see what you'd do with power.

>>512407130 (OP)
A miscarriage usually happens when something goes wrong with the pregnancy. An abortion is inducing a medically unnecessary miscarriage or just murdering and forcibly extracting the otherwise healthy fetus. Are you retarded with your false equivalency?

>>512407130 (OP)
>oy vey
it is not gods fault that woman take the pill for years and then suddenly think they can just stop and get a child
or do drugs or literal witchcraft or whatever

christ is king

>>512409576
Abstinence isn't the stifling a birth. Both contraception and abortion are.

>>512410072
>Right, they were made by an imperfect creator then
Nope, sorry. Does not logically follow just because you've tried to dress it up with a snappy catchphrase.

>>512407243
spbp
op is a faggot as per usual

>>512409639
If God can do or be everything and anything, then God is All Powerful, but then to maintain that "God is good" you have to change your definition of "Good" to mean "Anything and Everything (as long as I believe that God did it)"

This is a dangerous way of thinking because you now have an entirely subjective value system that rotates around whatever it is you believe that God has said or commanded. This is also how Jews think.

OP is a bot
I can't believe so many anons don't realize this yet kek

>>512409947
I don't disagree, but I think belief in God is dying because of self-contradictory theology (eg God being mean and angry in the OT but the opposite in the NT with no coherent theological explanation)

>>512410417
You just have to picture God as not being a big alien Santa Claus and also have a fully developed Amygdala.

>Fully subjective
Unfortunately for you reality presents objective values through patterns. I know you can't understand this because you're literally missing a part of your brain, but patterns are the only thing that matter.

>>512410558
Half the thread is bots they all post the same shit in the same style over and over again this is ehy you see the same threads with the same replies

>>512410172
If it's absolutely impossible for a being to do a thing because of their nature, then that thing is effectively impossible for them. Whether they are physically capable or not is immaterial, it's still a limit on their possible range of behavior

>>512407243
Murder of nigger babies is good yes, why do all you faggots want tens of millions more niggers?

>>512410701
If your position is that God is the underlying order and patterns of the Universe, and also that these underlying patterns are ultimately Good, then fair enough, but that sounds closer to pagan vitalism than approved church theology. You also end up with a Deist "clockmaker" God, but I won't say it's illogical.

>>512410931
>p-please! i need to be able to kill my kids! niggers do it to and you scrotes hate niggers right!? pleaase!!
desperate

>>512407130 (OP)
To think G-d created only the good things in the world is the most selfish, arrogant understanding of G-d possible. G-d created everything including the souls of the people you see in all that gore that's posted on here. You people are the most retarded, selfish people who don't understand the first thing abput what it means to fear G-d. How would you know to fear G-d if he didn't also create evil?

Don't be a sucker

>billions of niggers is good, actually
A winning strategy indeed christcucks

>>512411600
only read the first few sentences but it's horseshit.
one of the biggest names in antiabortion stuff started his church in a rehab center full of recovering drug addicts like himself, and his outfit regularly helps mothers who decide not to murder their baby take care of them.

>>512410687
>(eg God being mean and angry in the OT but the opposite in the NT with no coherent theological explanation)
if you read the Bible, you'll see the OT is full of God's mercy and patience and the NT has many moments featuring God's wrath like smiting ananias and sapphira and literally everything in Revelation.
God's character is consistent.
another interesting thing is the viewing it through the lens of the two powers in heaven motif.
in Genesis 19:24, there's two Yahwehs, people point to this as a Christophany (portrayal of the pre-incarnate Christ), Christ was the one nuking the gays and rapists in sodom and gomorrah.

>>512410070
>commie georgeDroid-188 at your service

>>512407130 (OP)
what percentage of miscarriages are the result of a previous abortion?

>>512411584
You just called your own God "evil". He's going to be very angry with you when he finds out.

>>512412775
>Christ was the one nuking the gays and rapists in sodom and gomorrah
And their children, which contradicts Jesus's teaching of "do not despise the little ones"

>>512407130 (OP)
>what's the difference between suicide and murder

you can stop now

>>512415930
there's no contradiction here.
the gravity of sin and the brokenness of the world is being highlighted, the world He came to redeem.
Jesus doesn't just protect children, He died for them.
the God of the OT and the NT is the same, deeply just, profoundly merciful, and willing to bear the cost of both.

>>512416549
To everyone who's not wearing theology-colored glasses, Yahweh the Old Testament God is a Nero-like mad emperor character. Not good. Not merciful. Not even a completely rational or sane character. Not even emotionally continent.

And it seems like you feel compelled to say nice things about the Mad Emperor because any slight foible could drive him into a rage.

>>512407249
If God didn't want the animals to eat each other why did he give predators sharp teeth?

The world doesn't look like it was perfect until someone came and fucked it up. If anything, everything you can see with your eyes or observe through a lens tells you the world was built to be shit and all the good in it is artificially engineered after the fact, the inverse of what Yeshuian Judaism teaches.

The universe clearly demonstrates that good must be maintained through personal sacrifice and suffering is the natural norm. How? Suffering isn't some paint over added by Lucifet later, it is the default state. Everything ordered in the world, including your religion, was built on the blood sacrifice of others. That's why Christianity is dying. Jesus doesn't 'need' blood sacrifices, you can just get free gibs from his dad eternally without ever needing to pay it back. Yet, when we look at when the west started to die, it is precisely when it actually started thinking that way. Nah, this idea that good is the default state and evil is just a perversion of the natural state of things is desert jew cope. We clearly fucking see the exact opposite is the case. The ONLY happiness in this world is made in direct spite of the default state of the world. The universe tends toward entropy, not greater creation. The God of the Bible is antithetical to the message the universe tells us, which is to fight, compete, and to build ontop of the suffering of others and yourself and that total happiness is a mental illness that drives you to suicide.

The fact is, hate, intolerance and bigotry created paradises on Earth and love, tolerance, and empathy completely destroyed them. If the Jewish God were real, this would be reversed, but it isn't.

>>512417032
>god is mean and i don't like him
i'm not good at dealing with emotional arguments over the internet.
this is all just rhetorical venting, there’s nothing substantive to respond to.
you're looking for a hug rather than a rational back and forth.

>>512415718
No I said he created everything including evil and you

>>512417395
Right? Anyone who thinks the world is by default good just needs to spend a night sleeping outside where there's mosquitos. Mosquitos is the default, lack of mosquitos is unnatural and due to human effort and struggle.

>>512417760
If I create pots what am I? A potter.
If I create art what am I? An artist.
If I create evil what am I? Evil, to the exact degree that I create it.

Therefore, your God has no right to judge anyone or anything, because he's more evil than all of them combine. He created this world and that's why the Bible calls him "the God of This World"

>>512418076
G-d created everything. I didn't create much personally

>>512417395
predation/suffering aren't God's original design (Gen 1:31) but consequences of a corrupted world (Rom 8:20-22).
sharp teeth =/= divine intent, they reflect a post-fall ecosystem.
moral outrage implies objective good. if the universe were truly amoral, why protest suffering? your anger presupposes a standard beyond nature, pointing to transcendent justice.
"hate builds paradise" is selective history. brutal regimes collapsed from internal rot, Christian ethics birthed hospitals, science and human rights. strength =/= goodness.
Christianity doesn't deny suffering, it redeems it. the cross shows God entering pain and suffering alongside us to defeat it. Grace isn't "free gibs," it's Christ paying the debt justice demands.
fine-tuning (laws enabling life) suggest design. if chaos were ultimate, we wouldn't expect rationality, yet here you are, using reason to argue.
your critique assumes the very moral order Christianity explains, the problem of evil presupposes goodness, and that's a problem for your worldview, not ours.

>>512418076
if a playwright scripts a villain is he evil?
no, evil acts in the story serve a greater good. God permits evil only if it yields a greater good.

God didn't create evil, evil is the privation (absence) of good. like rust corrupting metal. He permitted moral evil as a cost of free will.
the "God of this world" (2 Cor 4:4) refers to satan. the real God calls satan "the rulers of this age" (John 12:31) implying temporary usurpation, not creative authorship.
your argument assumes moral absolutes (God has no right to judge) but if naturalism is true, "right/wrong" are illusions. only theism grounds your outrage.

>>512418591
"Gen 1:31 is full of shit."
-Looking outside for 10-30 minutes

You just proved Lucifer wrote the Bible cause good is the perversion and evil the default. The message you teach is, at its core, faggot and wellfarepilled. Why shouldn't I just do whatever the fuck I want? My wants aren't 'wrong' after all because God would never have made me that way. I can go on food stamps if I feel like it because God would have made the world with enough food for me and any argument contrary is antichristian. It only just looks like we can't feed everyone for free because Satan invisibly deceived us. Now shut up and pay my welfare!

You see the problem? Obviously not, you don't get to be right wing and believe in a perfect world simultaneously without an olympic capacity for mentaly gymnasitcs, but Genesis rejects the idea that suffering builds character and that pain is necessary to improve you, attitibuting it to Satan when that's directly at odds with the rest of the book. You can't argue "everything was good, evil was external sabotage" without hardcoding proto-Marxist ideals into your religion. It gives you a half-life. After a certain point, 50% or more of your followers will inevitably decay into people that push utopianism at the expense of everything else and reject the rest of the book, even claim to reject the entire message, while preaching shit that only makes sense through a biblical lens. This is why, when you look at a world map of 20th Century Earth, you can predict 1 to 1 which countries become jewish controlled, faggot filled multicultural shitholes based on them being Christian majority. Didn't happen in the Middle East, didn't happen in the Orient, didn't happen in Central Asia, only where Jesus was praised did people start fucking men openly. The only exceptions are countries that already tried the 20th Century's iteration of wokeness, communism.

Bruh, you are preaching jewish subversion

Abortion wasn't an issue hundreds of years ago because pregnancy wasn't recognised until the quickening (first movements, end of first trimester, 12 weeks) So various herbs etc could be administered to bring on menses, and this wasn't seen as sinful.

>>512407130 (OP)
YHWH and Jesus aren't real, but neither are the demiurge or archons, you fucking schizo. You're as retarded as the other retards, and too dumb to realize it.

>>512407130 (OP)
Miscarriage is miscarriage

>>512407130 (OP)
suicide
so, yes, that fetus goes to hell

>>512419491
>You just proved Lucifer wrote the Bible cause good is the perversion and evil the default. The message you teach is, at its core, faggot and wellfarepilled. Why shouldn't I just do whatever the fuck I want? My wants aren't 'wrong' after all because God would never have made me that way. I can go on food stamps if I feel like it because God would have made the world with enough food for me and any argument contrary is antichristian. It only just looks like we can't feed everyone for free because Satan invisibly deceived us. Now shut up and pay my welfare!
i can't track your train of thought here at all whatsoever.
again,
Genesis 1:31 calls creation "very good," not utopian, ordered for life.
Romans 8:20-22 says it's not "groaning" due to corruption, not design.
>You see the problem? Obviously not,
right.
>Genesis rejects the idea that suffering builds character and that pain is necessary to improve you, attitibuting it to Satan when that's directly at odds with the rest of the book.
so the rest of the books say suffering can be used for good? what are you whining about then?
>This is why, when you look at a world map of 20th Century Earth, you can predict 1 to 1 which countries become jewish controlled, faggot filled multicultural shitholes based on them being Christian majority.
that's just not true, japan for example is gay as fuck and not Christian.
the west's decline tracks with abandoning biblical ethics (1960s onward), not following them.

>Bruh, you are preaching jewish subversion
ironic.

>>512418591
I'm specifically concerned with natural evils such as miscarriages and mosquitos and I don't see how Eden would have been mosquito-free or why a benevolent deity would create natural evils such as mosquitos

>>512419850
Yes and the gods don't live on Mt Olympus, it's all metaphors but how you tell the stories is important

>>512407130 (OP)
>Abortion= murder
>Miscarriage = natural death
Keep swinging rabbi.

>>512418591
>God didn't create evil
"I... create Evil" - Yahweh, Isaiah 45:7
I don't believe God created evil but I also don't believe that Yahweh is God. Yahweh is Satan, the God of this world, and the Old Testament is his Covenant and Law

>>512421995
that's just an awkward translation.
>i get my theology from shin megami tensei
yikes

>>512422311
Yeah check this out, his name "YaHovah"/Jehovah literally means "Ya" (god) "Hovah" (ruin, disaster, mischief)

That makes him the God of Ruin, Disaster and Mischief, aka Satan.

Rabbis will deny this.

>>512407562
Is that Leon and Claire wtf?

>>512407130 (OP)
Baffling. I really think atheists have a mental illness.

>>512411475
i'm conditionally anti-abortion. the condition is
>what race is it

>>512423029
do you think all blacks should be round up and shot in the head, or just their babies?

>>512409466
> but logically God cannot be All Powerful, All Knowing and All Good.
Good news, the god of the Bible is explicitly
>not omnipotent
>not omniscient
>not omnibenevolent
So it sounds like you agree with the biblical understanding of God

>>512407130 (OP)
I’m pro-life and I’m not a Christian. What now fuck ass?

>>512407243
This, what a stipid thread

>>512423189
you some kinda open theist or just rolling with their ill-defined terms?

>>512423370
I don’t understand any part of this question.
Not being a jerk on purpose, I literally don’t know what this means.

>>512407130 (OP)
Manslaughter.

>>512407130 (OP)
me cumming into your mouth is a man cumming then that isn't gay, open wide op

>>512423416
"open theism" is a theological framework that views the future as unknowable and God as not having omniscience.
it's in the same sort of category as calvinism/molinism/armenianism, etc.

it's a pretty fringe view and almost every Christian theologian views God as having the omnis mentioned earlier and can ground this in scripture.
people on the internet will quibble with you on what exactly something like omnipotence would mean, but it's been settled on scholarly level forever.
you won't hear a formal debate between an atheist and a theist where the atheist says something like
>can a god make a buritto so big he can't eat it? then he's not omnipotent!

>>512407130 (OP)
abortion is murder, miscarriage is a tragedy
not that complicated

>>512407130 (OP)
Sometimes, people die because something is wrong with their body, and not because you murdered them
retard

>>512424046
Well God knows what he will do in the future, so I’m not sure if that is compatible.

I don’t need burritos, the Bible is clear that God is not omnipotent. I answer the question by agreeing he is not omnipotent and suddenly they are out of arguments.

My experience and understanding tells me atheists do believe in a god, because if you try to correct their definition in anyway, their worldview falls apart. They have a very SPECIFIC god in mind when they say they don’t believe, which is a bizarre contradiction.

It all comes down to animosity towards Christ, built on a foundation of lies. Starting with their parents, then their pastors, then society or the internet. They are right to feel betrayed for being lied to; but once you agree they were lied to, they become lost, and only the animosity remains.

>>512422757
>i changed the spelling of this transliteration
>Umad, bros?

>>512407130 (OP)
Abortion and miscarriage are the same thing. Doctors use to refer to miscarriages as abortions. “Elective termination of pregnancy” is different then an abortion/miscarriage, but the world has adopted “abortion” to mean inflicting baby death.

>>512424439
that does seem rhetorically strong, but to cede the fact that God is all (omni) powerful (potence) to fluster gaytheists seems unwise.
>“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God—the one who is, and who was, and who is still to come—the All-Powerful! (Revelation 1:8)
>Each one of the four living creatures had six wings and was full of eyes all around and inside. They never rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the All-Powerful, who was, and who is, and who is still to come!” (Revelation 4:8)
>“We give you thanks, Lord God, the All-Powerful, the one who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun to reign.” (Revelation 11:17)
>They sang the song of Moses the servant of God and the song of the Lamb: “Great and astounding are your deeds, Lord God, the All-Powerful! Just and true are your ways, King over the nations!” (Revelation 15:3)
>Then I heard the altar reply, “Yes, Lord God, the All-Powerful, your judgments are true and just!” (Revelation 16:7)
>Now I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God—the All-Powerful—and the Lamb are its temple. (Revelation 21:22)
the most widely held theological view is that God is omnipotent, but chooses to limit His power in the interest of relationship and human freedom. intentional restraint rather than a weakness or inability.

>>512425706
I’m not doing it to fluster anyone, I am saying it because it is biblically accurate.
For example, in your first quote I don’t know what translation you are using, but the word is almighty or all-ruling.
But I digress, word games are not very productive.

Would you agree that omniscience is a necessary part of omnipotence? As in, if a being is omnipotent, they MUST be omniscient by definition?

>>512407130 (OP)
It's biology you faggot.

so if you kill a pregnant mother you get double murder. if a women aborts/kills her fetus/baby then it's nothing. a miscarriage is the same as the mother dying the child birth, it's just the child dies not the mother. it's a terrible accidently death that hopefully can be avoided due to modern medicine

>>512409466
I think in the case of modern day "christianity" (Apophenia would be a more appropriate name, but it's not the only religion that's a crock of bullshit whipped up to control people), it inculcates them to be ignorant, complacent and immoral through hypocrisy (it's interesting how so many die hard christians are seemingly hypocrites).

>>512426738
>the word is almighty or all-ruling.
the greek word is pantokrator
pan = all = omni
kratos = power = potence
pantokrator = all powerful = omni potent

>if a being is omnipotent, they MUST be omniscient by definition?
not necessarily i guess, since we could treat omnipotence as raw capability, separate from knowledge.
omniscience is less a power and more an attribute describing something you have (knowledge of all.)
to clarify though, i hold that all 3 omnis are true (power, knowledge, good will)

>>512407130 (OP)
Abortion is murder and God obviously doesn't exist

>>512407562
Ah. The memories, still remember the moment i dropped that shitty comic. Fuck xkcd

>>512407130 (OP)
Easy to explain. If a man throws himself off a cliff, is God obliged to stop the laws of gravity to save him? Obviously not.

If you live an improper life, eat bad food, take part in things that destroy your genetics, take part in things that cause miscarriage, you will have a miscarriage.

If you don't throw yourself off a cliff, you wont die from smacking into the ground. If you live a proper life, you won't have miscarriage. It is not God's fault if you die from jumping off a cliff. It is not God's fault if you have a miscarriage from doing things that cause miscarriages.

Simple as.

Try harder.

Jesus be with you.

>>512407130 (OP)
fetal suicide. they saw how much of a shit people their families are and decided to make a u-turn back to heaven

>>512407130 (OP)
I don't care about whether abortion is murder or not. I just want whores to suffer the consequences of their shit behavior.

>>512428134
Is the power to know something not underneath “all”?
This isn’t a burrito situation, this is like an all powerful being not being able to whistle.

>>512407249
Sin is natural.

>>512407243
Indeed
> If strangulation is murder, then what is choking to death on a chicken bone, huh?