Think about it. You don’t say “can I fuck you”. That would ruin the moment.

Typically, you’re making out and you start tearing her clothes off. Next thing you know you’re fucking her.

It’s really not so different to rape. Think about it rationally.

When do you ever “ask consent”?

Women want to be raped. Just in a non verbal consensual way.

Sex is just non verbal consensual rape.

Think about it.

>>512572068 (OP)
>Even Consensual Sex is Rape
When Women have Consensual sex with men, the man is raped.

>>512572068 (OP)
Furthermore, even if she says no, if she cums she won't go to the cops.

>>512572068 (OP)
return to sender

>>512572068 (OP)
Not only that but your dick invades her hole, sex is inherently rape

>>512572068 (OP)
>Think about it.
No. Atrocious post. Not understanding implied consent. Not every treaty needs words to be entered consensually.
Faggot

>>512572379
This is in fact true

>>512572494
Yes this is what I’ve been thinking. In what scenario is it not rape?

The only time I think sex is not rape is if it’s to produce a child with your wife. Otherwise all sex is just a man (without asking) but through mutual sexual desire, penetrating a woman lol.

It’s just her consenting in a physical way to rape lmfao.

>>512572068 (OP)
what if she is tearing you clothes off? what happens when you wake up getting your dick sucked? is that rape? should I call the police?

>>512572680
*your

>>512572577
If it’s implied, it can’t be proven, how do you know she’s consenting and is not in fact turned on by your lack of consent or asking her consent?

How do you know it’s not the opposite? She’s wet because you’re taking it without asking.

You’re coping and making assumptions. If you asked consent, her pussy would dry up.

>>512572752
>You are making assumptions
>She’s wet because you’re taking it without asking. (an assumption)

>If it’s implied, it can’t be proven
Yea and? When you take the supermarkets food the company will also not give consent. They dont care as long as you pay up. neither do you express your consent to pay. You just do it.

>>512573074
Retard.

Do you agree or disagree that if you asked consent verbally it would either turn her off entirely or slightly lower the mood from its peak?

The answer to this question will determine how honest you’re willing to be in this debate.

Oh and it will also reveal if you’re a virgin / woman / tranny.

>>512572068 (OP)
>Think about it. You don’t say “can I fuck you”. That would ruin the moment.
This is literally the law in Denmark. In 2020 or whenever it was we made the "Law of Consent" added to the books, and it literally says "If you cannot record verbal statement of consent, it will be viewed as rape."

That means if you wanna be absolutely sure before you fuck, even if you know her somewhat well, you have to ask "Do you want to do it?" and she has to say "yes" to it, before you've secured consent.

And women have done a really good job of silencing the male backlash it caused here. Women are getting way, way too much leeway at this point.

>>512573214
Yes its a turn off. Because it makes you sound insecure.

>>512572068 (OP)
>Typically, you’re making out and you start tearing her clothes off. Next thing you know you’re fucking her.

Wtf? Is this really how it works?

T. Virgin

>>512572068 (OP)
The reason asking for consent is a turn off is that it shows you are unable to read obvious non-verbal cues. It’s not because women want to be raped. That is retarded. Go try to rape a woman if you think so, and see how it works out for you.

>>512572639
>In what scenario is it not rape?
Scissoring or pic related

>>512572068 (OP)
By your premise then all rape is also sex.

>>512572068 (OP)
This is how women actually think

>>512573707
Good you learned the truth before you ruined your life. They leave it unsaid in case they regret it and sue you for rape. Be very careful moorebaby

>>512572379
>Furthermore, even if she says no, if she cums she won't go to the cops.
>>512572639
>This is in fact true
This is not true, you retarded crackers. still rape. still legally will get you to prison.

>>512573707
>Wtf? Is this really how it works?
Not really, unless you are already in a sexual relationship for a while.

>>512573707
Yes. You vibe with a chick in some setting while alone with her. Then when the vibing gets really good, you will probably be able to see some kind of cue that she wants to be kissed. She should be smiling, looking in your eyes for long gazes, laughing at all your jokes, lightly touching you. At some point you may get closer or hug, then you’ll feel her melt in your arms, but also she will not be so obvious. She doesn’t want to be rejected—she’s nervous too. You kiss. 9/10 it will work if you read the room properly. 1/10 it just doesn’t work—no big deal.

Anyway, kissing turns to making out. And then you are touching her breast. This is second base. If she allows this, it is much more likely you can score. As the guy you’ll just keep pushing her boundary until she says “stop. Not yet”. This has happened to me, and it doesn’t mean much. Usually it means she has to think a bit. You should respect this and chill out. Don’t sperg out here and try to rape—that is retarded. But a lot of very drunk guys don’t get the signal. Unfortunate.

Many woman don’t have good boundaries and feel pressured by society. They regret their decisions and then cry rape. They are egged on by feminists who nobody ever kissed. It’s a sad societal issue.

I hope you find a girl you can vibe with one day. Take care of yourself and touch grass.

>>512572068 (OP)
you have just figured out why the whole thing is retarded. Women expect you to know when its ok to rape them. This is why autists will never get laid. Or if they do its because a woman has figured out their handicap and is basically raping them.

>>512573214
Just talk about it beforehand. The girl I'm seeing now told me I can do pretty much whatever I want with her unless she uses her safe word. Now I have consent and any mood killing is on her. It was her idea. She's a little autistic and into BDSM so not for everyone, but you know it works pretty great.

>>512572068 (OP)
Does telling her to beg you for it count as asking for consent, or is would that be considered given under duress?

>>512574987
its just like OP says. You have to know when she wants to do it. So if you guess wrong then you are fucked. Its like they attracted to the fact that you can make them feel helpless and at the same time are willing to take the risk of 20 years in jail.

op you are right, some girls dont even care if you tell them youre a rapist and you want to rape them, granted some will, but some for sure dont in my experience

>>512572068 (OP)
You incels are so brain rotted its insane

>>512572068 (OP)
Women cannot consent, they are too stupid. Theyre children forever.
It is always rape unless you get permission from her father