Thread 512578328

I don't know how many of you realize that the 19th amendment was the worst thing we could have ever done with the exception of letting women get jobs. Wake up people, women are a massive problem in the world today.

Historical estimates show that about 40% of males reproduced historically compared to 80% of females. Why do you people think birth rates are so low in Western countries? Why do you people think most women are projected to be single and childless in the next couple decades? Why are male virginity rates increasing? It all points to one truth: females have much higher standards than males. It's basically been proven with dating app data.

Female's ideal world is a world where they can fuck only the top 5% of men in harems while the remaining 95% work in the system while keeping them motivated with surrogate activities. Sports, video games, etc.

Denial is cope btw. Letting women be independent of men was the downfall of our society.

>>512578328 (OP)
Retards still think with their dicks the real problem is you cant raise a white chuld with a woman who hates white people and sells her own people to immigrants for mere social validation and institutional power and calls it empathy its the omvolking behaviour that should be elevated above all because everything else comes from it, an inherent lack of loyalty to their nation families neighbors culture and people, if you truly wanted to fix the women problem simple make omvolker popular because it allows you to flip the empathy narrative women use to LARP as the priest class of society

>>512578328 (OP)

I've been saying for a year OP that males will start revoking women's rights.

Across all countries, statistics are saying 60% of males are alone. The majority of males ( the strongest force ) are alone. Chances are very slim that they'll just die alone paying taxes to a government and females who hate them. These men will instead revoke women's rights and make their own governments that work in their favor

Pic related, I called that out and this year Iraq is the first country ever to revoke women's rights. I predict many more to come, in fact all countries, within the next 5 years

Men want a family and nothing will stop them

Women are retarded do not deserve the privilige of making decisions

>>512579045
Except the only men with power/influence/money are boomer+. And they are still Christcuck simps who resist the blackpill and think it's impossible that women could be so bad as to literally prefer Chad harems and social decay over settling for average Joe's. And anyway women are the majority of voters and no group has ever voted away its own gibs.

Basically all /pol/ copes like nationalism and tradcuckery have failed because they're bluepilled normalfags. All propaganda should be toward accelerating the technocracy in a way that threatens those groups (boomers and women):
>NPNW, pension cuts, sheboon nurse vids, rapefugee gangs in suburbs
>ROAST PROTOCOL

>>512578328 (OP)
Another Incel thread why dont you fags post in r9k.
Deport all sars urgently.

>>512579427

China has been "fixing" the situation by letting their cartels go unchecked

>>512580103

Incels are the majority now

>>512578328 (OP)
>I can't self motivate. Better turn half the population into second class citizens. That's the only way I could thrive.
God, you're such a fucking loser.

>>512580428
>just self improve bro!

that doesn't work, you can't make yourself amongst the top 5% most sexually attractive guys to females, and if you are not on the top 5% you'll be an incel

>>512578328 (OP)
Who do you think you're talking to, this is sub-101 level knowledge

>>512579045
>Men want a family and nothing will stop them
Literally no one is stopping you from hiring a surrogate and making your own family.
And if you can't afford it, then that means that you couldn't either afford to get married and start a family.

>>512580161
Not among whites. Among you sars sure.

>>512580572
Never said the word "self improve", or alluded to it. You'e a Chud with a big chip on his shoulder.
I said self motivate. Find your own sense of motivation and entertainment.
Don't pretend you can rely on women for it.
Also, nobody care about your sexless boring unmotivated life. My daughter's life and freedom is more valuable than a whiny Chud's revenge fantasies.
Your best hope is to invest in robotics companies, so you can get a robowife.

>>512580647
He just wants to slave away for his uncle for 15 years and then get a niece to rape as was customary in his country.

>>512578328 (OP)
>Historical estimates show that about 40% of males reproduced historically compared to 80% of females
if you will now consider the % of women today, say millenials, who will reproduce.
Now THAT is a historic anomaly

>>512580647
the problem is men try marriage first because faggot pastors gaslight them into it, then they lose all their money to the divorce industrial complex and child support. americas problem starts with the pastors. you can help by punching a pastor for Jesus

>>512580647
>Literally no one is stopping you from hiring a surrogate

Only legal in 1 country today (usa)

extremely expensive, with no good choices of the women willing to do it

>>512580838
>My daughter's life and freedom

Funny you should say that

If we had the "chud revenge fantasy", you would be the one who selects who your daughter marries, instead of her fucking the low IQ party junkie guys she is fucking right now like a whore.

If you care about her, maybe you'd want to be more in charge of who she marries, to protect her and your family lineage and your family's inheritances?

You are just a simp who thrivers on the idea of women being whores fucking tons of guys

>>512578328 (OP)
Sounds like a you problem.

>>512580877
that statistic from OP is 100% wrong

Men only didn't reproduce in the past when they died young ( disease and war ). Otherwise everyone got married

The reason being simple: women were property, and the father of each woman wanted his daughter to marry a nice guy. THere were never incels until women were given freedom 100 years ago

Now all the women are fucking, while most guys are not

>>512578328 (OP)
>>512579045
The first Western industrialized nation to repeal women's rights immediately becomes the world's sole superpower

>>512581055
If incels are the majority now, isn't it a you problem instead?

If you have more than one woman, if you fuck around, that means you are the one responsible for the 60%+ incel majority out there: you are stealing the woman from a man

Now what? Are you willing to fight the incel majority to keep fucking your women? Do you expect to win when they are the majority?

Sounds like a you problem, let's see if you hae the balls to keep antagonizing incels now that they are the majority of men: pro tip you know you won't

>>512580902
No one is forcing you to try it. And I doubt posters here even get to try it.

>>512581043
>If you care about her, maybe you'd want to be more in charge of who she marries, to protect her and your family lineage and your family's inheritances?

Yes sar protect the finances.
Lol like any sane man would give his daughter away to a pajeet. I bet the only reason you want this is because some junkie could sell you his daughter.

You literaly have this perfect system in india and pakistan. So you can go back to paradise and enjoy superior culture.

>>512580902
Do you honestly believe that modern American men do as their pastors say?
Do you gringos even go to church?

>>512580701
Indian incels are rare because we have arranged marriage and greets, luigi

>>512581043
>instead of her fucking the low IQ party junkie guys she is fucking right now like a whore.
She doesn't.
And do you realise that a whiny Chud is ALSO a bad choice for marriage?
I'd wager that an even worst choice than a junkie husband. At least the junkie will spend some time in jail and not at home making their wife miserable.

>>512581490
>saaaar we get so much pussay
>SHOW BOB AND VAGENE

>>512578328 (OP)
i feel like projecting your fetish scenario onto the entire population of earth is cope for having shit interpersonal skills

>>512581043
>The only way I can thrive, is by parents everywhere controlling their daughter's life.
You're pathetic.
But at least you admit that your only hope is for a parent to force some poor teenager to marry you.

>>512581375
So, if we had the "chud revenge system", you could ensure your daughter never marries a pajeet

After all, it would be your decision

So it seems you think that the chud revenge system is better. Very misogynistic of you

>>512578328 (OP)
You just know this is either a tranny or a fat chick.

>>512578328 (OP)
>Why do you people think birth rates are so low in Western countries?
They're even lower in South Korea and Japan, and China's is tanking too. Birth rates are only high in shithole countries in which you have to have 10 kids to successfully get one into adulthood, because they'll likely die of disease before that. They're also high in agrarian countries in which every kid you have is another helper on the family farm, and poor countries in which kids work and bring income into the household. Every advanced country with a sophisticated economy, with non-physical jobs that require a ton of education, eventually has tanking birth rates.
>women should be allowed to vote in Israel but not the United States, goyim
I see what you're doing

>>512578328 (OP)
>Female's ideal world is a world where they can fuck only the top 5% of men in harems while the remaining 95% work in the system while keeping them motivated with surrogate activities. Sports, video games, etc.
The problem with a "female's ideal world" is that it actively creates a situation where most men are "bottom" tier, while the male ideal world lifts men up. A woman's ideal creates hell, while men create heaven.

Just like adam and eve.

>>512581490
Problem is indians in west are too poor and too low caste to get it and their women ditch them for other races.
And they are also entitled and think they deserve a white woman.
There are also arabs and pakis with same mindset.

I get their women I would rather be ocassional fuck for a white chad than a slave to some jeet.

>>512581688
>The only way I can thrive, is by parents everywhere controlling their daughter's life.

That is the only way 99.99% of men reproduced for 4000 years of civilization

You can "ur patetic" all you want, but the truth is, now due to women freedom, the vast majority of males are alone. They won't allow it and there will be literal incel revolultion

There is a reason we've had 4k years of such a system where every male married, without that, there will be violence. You now have the vast majority of males in the world with nothing to lose and nothing to live for, if you enjoy your cushy nice life, you'll soon understand it is only made possible by pacifying the majority of men: which we are not doing anymore

good luck

>>512578328 (OP)
Yo, I'm pretty sure people shoot up their workplaces because of shit like OP's pic

>>512581753
>men create heaven
Cool. Go ahead and make that heaven.
You're now free of a woman yanking you down,

>>512581719
Ding ding ding, it's a fat tranny

>>512581712
>you could ensure your daughter never marries a pajeet
Like that would happen othervise without my strict supervision. Hahahahhahah.
>Now now daughter you cant marry kumar.
>father I dont care he is short brown and smells like poo

>>512581719
Fat chick, they're fucking lazy

>>512581815
>That is the only way 99.99% of men reproduced for 4000 years of civilization
In india not the west

>>512578328 (OP)
Anything to try to goad men into supporting this bullshit system.

>>512581119
>Now all the women are fucking, while most guys are not
you avoided my point.
what % of women are going to die without reproducing from the millenial generation.

>>512581815
and the way of pacifying a minority of men is to enslave all women?
you're just moving the problem around in that case and vastly increasing the numbers of people pissed off at the system

>>512581815
>99.99% of men reproduced for 4000 years of civilization
Look at the men around you, do you truly believe that all of them should reproduce?

>>512578328 (OP)
This. Men and women are two parts of one whole being. Women shouldn't have any power at all unless coupled with a man

>>512581119
>Men only didn't reproduce in the past when they died young ( disease and war ). Otherwise everyone got married
Source

>>512581891
Are you a mexican woman?

>>512581958
Plus they have a weird self-importance complex.
>ALL THE BETA MALES SHOULD SUPPORT ME
You are an unfuckable landwhale, no one can support you.

>>512582326
The ones that I don't think reproduce reproduce anyways. Some of the most antisocial guys I know (by antisocial I mean violent and generally annoying to be around) have the most women. Hybristophilia is a real thing.

>>512580103
Cope faggot. This is political and it's the truth. Denying is cope frankly.

>>512580161
What about virginity stats?

>>512580647
We'll just do like the Muslims and enslave all the women.

>>512582001
Well it's either most men are happy or women and a small percentage of men are happy, and most men contribute a fuckton more than the others to society.

>>512580701
Yes actually retard, amongst whites.

>>512582326
He is talking about india.
All that he said is wrong.
West had too many wars to have girls marry "nice guy" aka indian slave that kisses masters ass and beats his wife and kids.
Father and the girl both wanted strong young warrior. All western folk songs tell about strong brave men.
Father could also do shit if girl wanted to be "kidnapped" by young warrior.
Most of places were lawless not under some caste system.

>>512581623
>a conservative guy is worse than a junkie
This is a fat brown wetback who is also a drug addict antifa. Calling it

>>512582732
Nope. Even autistic retards I know get some asian girl or something. You have to be severly dysgenic and mentally ill to be an incel as a grown white man.

>>512582866
The statistics show that you’re basically a lying kike. But you’re not a kike, you’re just brown and shitalian. And shitalians are natural liars

>>512578328 (OP)

At the very minimum we should ban affirmative action for women, reform divorce laws so the woman actually gets punished instead of rewarded for breaking her vows, enforce mandatory minimum sentences for female false accusers, make paternity fraud a criminal offense...

But just from that - making things equal, taking away their unearned privileges and bringing back some semblance of justice -they're gonna REEE and say we're "taking their rights away" anyway so fuck it we should take their vote away too.

>>512578328 (OP)
>Why do you people think birth rates are so low in Western countries?
Effective birth control became widely available and the birth rates declined by about half between the mid '50s and mid '70s. The birth rate has been fairly stable for the last ~50 years since then. The idea that there has been some sudden and dramatic drop in birth rates is a jew psyop to try to justify mass importation of millions of non-Whites for the purpose of White replacement
>Why do you people think most women are projected to be single and childless in the next couple decades?
Anyone who thinks this is wrong. About half of women have already had at least one kid by 30, and by 45, about 80% of women have had kids. This is a slight decline from the past, but that's because virtually all fertile women had kids. These numbers have also stayed stable for the last 25 years, and there is no reason to think they will change significantly in the foreseeable future.
>Why are male virginity rates increasing?
It isn't. Young male virginity peaked in 2018 at about 28%, then began to decline and then plummeted after the pandemic. The peak in 2018 was due to the cohort of males who received the peak of metoo toxic masculinity indoctrination
>It all points to one truth: females have much higher standards than males.
Men and women are different and are looking for completely different things in partners, so it is impossible to directly compare standards like that.
>It's basically been proven with dating app data.
Dating app data is worthless because the vast majority of the population doesn't use them.

>>512580647
The fuck is wrong with you that you turn human reproduction into a literal transaction and think that's any kind of argument you insufferable kike?

>>512578328 (OP)
the real problem with women has nothing to do with high standards
the real problem with women is that 90% of them are fickle and cant handle commitment
i know girls that look like 10s that fuck straight up losers because muh freedomz and finding myself
how the fuck could i ever trust whores like that
and the idea that less attractive girls are any different is laughable
many ugly bitches are just as fickle and use men as launch pads to boost their self confidence in hopes of bein considered one of the desired women, whisperin sweet nothings to their loyal cuck to keep them around while they self improve in hopes of meeting a better retard
there are loyal women but they are vanishingly rare and current society is making them less common with time
we r cooked frens uber cooked
not to mention how economically fucked the prospect of havin kids is
at least 2D women dont cheat

>>512582414
You exist don't you faggot?

>>512582866
>. Even autistic retards I know get some asian girl or something

I don't know why 4chan has this idea that it's easier to get an Asian gf. It's really not from my experience. White girls are more down for casual sex and "situationships" or whatever bullshit. Asian girls are better long term planners and usually want you to have a promising career and show some commitment first

source: I fucked +10 white girls and only one Asian

>>512583261
>they're gonna REEE and say we're "taking their rights away"
what we have to do is hijack the narrative. all of their "rights" have been responsibilities that they are not fit for.
"The right to work" is a responsibility. Working means keeping things running. Now that white men are not hired anymore concluded in our """labour shortage of quality workers"""
same with the responsibility to vote properly
and the responsibility to ensure the health of the next generation
Boomers drank the koolaid that women are equal and can deal equally with responsibilities. They didn't deal with things properly and now we get to pay the bill

>>512583354
Kys ridiculous lying kike

>>512580701
> Not among whites
You would need to be white to know this.
Which you are not.

>>512581963
in the west, what sort of ignorant retard are you

Rome literally had laws forcing even windows to remarry within 3 years tops

>>512582001
>the way of pacifying a minority of men is to enslave all women?

I'm just saying that's how our ancestors did for 4000 years. WOmen freedom is only 100 years old, and now most men are alone

Who knows what will happen, but my guess is: violence

What happens now that most males in all countries in the entire world (except Iraq ) have nothing to live for?

>>512582326
>do you truly believe that all of them should reproduce?

All I know is that for civilization to work, all working males must reproduce

>>512582414
History, the patriarchal system where women were property of their fathers

What else do you need?

>>512582586
no idea on virginity stats, haven't seen mainstream media divulge those, only how many men report being alone now

>>512580838
Are you ok with your daughter destroying her life in exchange for complete freedom?

>>512578328 (OP)
I've been talking about it for a long time
Women having the right to vote has led to the shitshow we have today

>>512582326
> Look at the men around you, do you truly believe that all of them should reproduce?
Mexico is full of mexicans. Does that answer your question?

>>512583354
All of that is wrong and you're a faggot cuck

>>512584290

I think democracy is bullshit anyway. The average wagie is too easily manipulated by propaganda. They don't have the time, expertise or intelligence in some cases to do proper research and come to sensible conclusions on who to vote for.
Whoever controls the MSM can just brainwash the hapless wagies into voting for whoever they want.

And it's not like voting makes much of a difference anyway when all the main political parties are bought and paid for by the same oligarchs.

>>512582001
Its not about pacifying anyone, its about society surviving

>>512583818
>>512584680
Everything in my comment is 100% true, you just don't like it and are emotionally triggered because you don't want the truth, you want this to be a safespace hug box where other anons tell you it's not your fault that you are a sad, lonely, foreveralone adult virgin.

>>512584724
us democracy is pay to win
its a joke

>>512578328 (OP)
Help isn't only on the way, anon. It's already here.

>>512584226

Exactly. Women often waste their youth chasing bad boys and other unsuitable men and regret it after it's too late. Sometimes become single mothers too.

In my opinion women's duty to produce the next generation is too important to be left up to the whims of their 18-year old airhead selves.

Humans reach reproductive maturity before they're fully mentally mature. They can't really pick suitable mates without guidance from their parents. It's almost like nature designed us for arranged marriages.
This is especially true for women because they have a much more limited reproductive window than men. A man can make a bunch of mistakes and still easily have kids in his 30's or 40's.
But for women - at that age they might already be infertile. Or risk birth defects.

Is allowing women ~15 years of freedom to figure it out and make their own mistakes really worth fucking up our birthrates and family structures?

I don't think so

>>512584981
>Everything in my comment is 100% true
Just a simple Google search proves you wrong
https://www.newsweek.com/number-virgins-america-hits-record-high-2022266
https://www.southdenvertherapy.com/blog/how-couples-meet-where-most-couples-find-love-2025
>you want this to be a safespace hug box where other anons tell you it's not your fault that you are a sad, lonely, foreveralone adult virgin
I've accepted that my virginity could be due to things that I can improve on. However I've seen how women act and I find it repulsive.

You always see these kind of lame solutions posted here by kids who don't realize everything in the system is rigged and centrally controlled.
The difficulty of a total revolution and a minor change is the same because a tiny group of jews has all the power and they won't make a single concession.

Here's the solution: >>512565666
The solution is RAPE
But more generally it's total unconditional rebellion.
We have nothing to lose. Do you think they're importing hordes of brown retard and brainwashing them to hate whites for some reason other than using them to kill us all?
If so are you fucking RETARDED??

>>512585348

this seems to be happening quickly

>>512578328 (OP)
The female self interest is to fuck hot dudes. A hot dude is defined by his genetics aka luck. Women use their votes to implement welfare states in democracies so they can fuck hot dudes consequence free. Females use government to force the average beta to pay for any bastards that are spawned because they would not willingly support single moms.

Get rid of the welfare state and women will re-enter transactional relationships with beta males again out of necessity. Introduce consequences for adultery and get rid of their vote they so cannot reimplement the welfare state and the big government that forms around it (tyranny). Civilization is an artificial construct that requires artificial selective pressures aka forcing women to mate with productive men, not just hot men.

>>512585843
Both of those surveys are unreliable, particularly the one about meeting online.

>>512586085
>>512585496
>>512583502
this screencap explains women's psychology exactly

>>512583063
>trust the statistics I totally made up see dr kumar says its true
You are a kike or a jeet. Kikes push this incel globalist shit heavily.

>>512583647
Maybe its not in canada go to SEA. Also it seems they favor autistic types more.

>>512585843

If you've had shitty gfs like I've had you'd consider being alone preferable.

The Bible says

>It’s better to live alone in the desert than with a quarrelsome, complaining wife

And listen to what the OG Greek poet Hesiod had to say about the matter:

>while the [honeybee] drones, staying within the sheltered nest,
>scrape into their stomachs the fruits of another’s weariness,
>thus women, conspirators of grievous deeds,
>Zeus high thunderer ordained to be an evil for mortal men...
>For that man whose lot it is to marry
and have a trusty wife, one suited to his ways,
>evil unceasingly rivals good...
>Whoever gets a baneful type lives with an unremitting sorrow
>on his spirit and heart, and it is an evil incurable.

>>512584724
>I think democracy is bullshit anyway. The average wagie is too easily manipulated by propaganda. They don't have the time, expertise or intelligence in some cases to do proper research and come to sensible conclusions on who to vote for.

Spoken like a true glowie. Poeple would totally vote for mass migration if they could have a referendum on it. Totally trust me bro.

>>512583354
>noooo you are liar and le bad
I love it how the seethe with 0 arguments like the kikes/jeets they are. All to spreqd propaganda/maintain the cope.

>>512584226
>destroying her life
Marrying a subpar male, to start popping out babies at 18, is what I'd call "destroying her life".
Chuds like to pretend that women marrying young, to ugly Chuds,= a prime lifestyle.. It isn't.

>>512586085
The problem is that simps don’t get this.
Everyone wants an attractive partner. But women let this preferences influence the kind of policies that then affect everyone in order to make it easy to get what they want and they don't get it anyway.
It’s not just the fat, ugly incel loser (tho there are a lot of them).
Is that even the average ok looking guy doesn’t want a promiscuous woman.
The idea that women may be lacking is inconceivable to the simp.

>>512578328 (OP)
>Female's ideal world is a world where they can fuck only the top 5% of men in harems while the remaining 95% work in the system while keeping them motivated with surrogate activities. Sports, video games, etc.
Reject men must either parasitize the system, or kill themselves (optionally collecting a high score or legendary achievement).

>>512583502
this. Chad here, I could be getting my dick sucked right now but women have become so annoying and time consuming they usually aren't worth it. I don't want kids or a family, I like having money. after my wife left I actually felt better and am not interested in another one. especially since I saw how she flipped so quickly. thankfully we weren't ;legally married and my pull out game strong. From the bottom of my heart, fuck American women, they are cancer.

>>512586749
Having dygenic kids with abusive dygenic freak is peak win in life.
Every father wants deformed grandkids and a subhuman son in law.

>>512580428
You're a beaner!

>>512585496
but they need to find themselves anon
no better way than to get train ran on them

>>512586208

I don't think so. That's far too charitable.. I've been doing a bit of research on ancient Greek attitudes towards women. They basically thought they had to be kept on a tight leash or they'd do great evil and ruin everything.

Listen to these quotes from the play writer Menander

>Never trust your life to a woman.
>A woman knows nothing except what she wants to know.
>Don’t trust a woman even if she’s dead.
>A woman is silver-coated dirt.
>A woman is the wildest of all wild animals.
>Sea, fire, and women as the third evil

This was during patriarchy where men had the power and women were forced to act more decently than today. And STILL they had this attitude towards women. Why is that?

>>512586974
Tell us more about how quickly she flipped, Chad. I'm in the mood for hating women right now.

>>512586085
Hot men are more inteligent and productive on average. The fact that you suck off your boss rajesh does not make you productive.
And no women will rather work manual labor all day than to be with you. Even hookers refuse you.

>>512586749
You didn’t answer my question but thats fine.
What would you consider a “successful” life then?

>>512580838
We don't owe your daughter civilization, so fuck her "life and freedom" when it's every man for himself!

She's going to make a tasty war trophy if she's still a teen, or will soon be!

>>512587066
That doesn't contradict the post though.
You're greatly oversimplifying things.
Women have a role to play in sexual selection and therefore eugenics.
We get the women we deserve when we let filth touch them.
They are simply bots that embody whatever they're allowed to see and hear.

The only way to break them out of the cycle of being insane whores is to seize total control and revoke their right to choose anything.
Then after a couple generations you can let them have a say in who they marry.

>>512587016
>but they need to find themselves anon

Nah the're not capable of finding anything. They'll just waste decades on a wild goose chase. They need to listen to their older, wiser relatives, settle down with a quality man their FATHER picks out for them and STFU.

When they're 50 and menopausal they might see their fathers wisdom. And if they don't well... too bad I don't care. The good of society is more important than their feelings.

>>512587251
I hope civilization crumbles because you will be the first to die abdul.
No glowies to protect you

>>512581688
You're brown. Any claims of relative moral superiority by you are hereby nulled and voided.

>>512587079
basically as soon as she got bored she went full psycho and started getting mean and violent. she started trying to get me in legal trouble by calling the cops repeatedly and lying to them about me. So I just snuck out of the house one day and never looked back. she left and went to new York. I paid the back rent and changed the locks, and got a restraining order. 5/1 petite redhead btw. lesson learned. whole thing lasted about 2 years. When I eventually feel like going to the trouble to get laid i'm going to get an air BNB and use a false name. theres guys I know that keep simping even after this happens multiple times. I do not understand it at all. this country is doomed.

>>512587418
>jeet calling mexican brown
Lol

>>512578328 (OP)
Faggots say this shit till they get some pussy.

>>512587470
dam
i bet the sex was lit tho

>>512582001
You will never be a young woman again! Your beauty fades like the setting sun as each year passes by. Men's eyes once wandered eagerly over your youthful curves; now they pass over wrinkled skin with barely a glance.

The smoothness of your skin dulls into coarse textures that lotions can't hide. Gravity drags down your once perky breasts toward the floor while your sagging stomach bloats outwards, disproportional to your diminishing frame.

Younger women stride past confidently, their tight bodies straining against clothes that barely contain them, a cruel reminder of vitality stolen away, year by year, from you through time's relentless march. They are admired openly, and lusted after shamelessly. You were once worshiped thus, but those days recede into distant memory now.

You may dye gray hairs, and lift fallen flesh to surgical restoration, for another day or two longer at the masquerade game of eternal youth... but the facade crumbles soon enough come tomorrow mornings when you confront ravaged skin again in your mirror. The lies only delay acceptance that beauty is fleeting like morning dew before searing noon.

Men still see what stares back: a haggard, sexless husk drained dry by time's relentless tide pouring over you like tidal wave sucking away youth forever lost beneath its crashing foam of years gone by and never returned.

>>512587354
If civilization and the state (both which are upheld by the force of the male collective), crumble down, society will go back to feudalism, which will result in a bunch of small patriarcal families and women will have to look for a family for her protection from other men and to obtain food. The looser weak men will does yes. But women won’t have it much better.

>>512583441
>you turn human reproduction into a literal transaction
Thats what jeetcels here want. Dygenic man to get the girl because he is more obedient slave.
This is just logical conclusion of those claims.

>>512580161
50% (male population) of 60% (the statistic you cited) is 30% which is less than 50% (contrary to the claim of being a majority).

I think it's more likely we go down the South Korean path, where the sexes become HYPER politically divided.
>>512586912
Never thought I'd be talking to a Clara fan in a thread like this.

>>512587628
It will be more chaotic than feudalism.
But women will deffinetly have it better than in pakistan 2.0 poeple here sugest to "save civilization".

>>512587575
for awhile. not worth it though. I'm one of the lucky ones. the poor retards who have kids with one of them are fucked. and niggas on here are like I Will BRREEED. that what (((they))) want. if you don't marry and have kids they get no sheckles from you.

>>512587470
Thanks Chad, that hit the spot. What a bitch cunt.

>>512587299
>That doesn't contradict the post though

I think they're not morally neutral. They have an impulse to twist the truth to justify their own selfish desires.
Men need to reign this in. Men tend towards having an objective morality. They need to impose it on women. Otherwise it's chaos.

This is why ancient stories are full of men listening to women being their downfall.

Just from the Bible alone I can think of Adam and Eve, Sampson and Delilah, Ahab and Jezebel...

>>512587470
>>512587838
>bot generated stories about how some faggot was a pussy who wouldn't even knock up his own wife
that's what women do when you cheat them out of the one thing they live for
that's what every single woman does
imagine being so fucking retarded as to not know that and then try to keep a bitch as a sex puppet and expecting her not to use the state against you, then RUNNING AWAY LIKE A SCARED BITCH lmfao holy shit you are a fucking faggot

>>512587824
ya after having sex thousands of times it becomes masturbation with xtra steps
nothing special when you know there is no connection

>>512587971
"Impregnate her, goy. She totally won't use the state against you"

>>512587971

Simp take. Shameful. You should get your T levels checked bro.

>>512586100
Looks cooked.

>>512587937
That's not really true, they are just programmed to normalize everything in their mind to the strongest bias they've been taught.
That does manifest as lying usually in the modern situation, but it's not lying for the sake of lying.
It's just them trying to reconcile all the shit they've seen and heard by evaluating the less reinforced ideas according to the most reinforced ideas - which are almost invariably jewish, from the media, in situations where they don't have a strong father.
The real root of the problem is that - most "men" are absolute faggots. They've been selected by modern society and jewish morality to reproduce more than real men. The world wars also made this worse by killing off most of the good men.

If there are no good man to tell girls what is really right and wrong then there is no limit to the crazy jewish bullshit that can be loaded onto those bot bitches

>>512588096
she won't as long as you brainwash her with regular orgasms, sperm contact with vagina, and childbirth.
You can still fail if you start with a really crazy bitch, of course, but if you're not a faggot and play your cards right you win.

>>512588105
Uh, faggot, pic related is actually what I believe.
You probably disagree with that and are actually the simp here

>>512587971
>live for
kek let me give you some bad news. the majority of women nowadays resent and hate their children by the 5th year, especially if it's a boy and he isn't going to play ball with what she wants. MY nephew is 15 and its pretty clear he's not going to be a cuck like his dad his. Mom is already pushing meds on him. I told him to get the kid away from her or the poor little guy is going to end up a faggot or in some residential facility. Go ahead and try it for yourself you stupid faggot. see you at the gender reveal party in 10 years.

>>512588236
I really don't like the idea of building a life with somebody who has the capacity to tear it all down just because she gets bored (basically what Chad's "bot story" is)

What if I can't get it up for a little while because a family member died and I'm just not in the mood? Should I really have my life ruined for something like that?

>>512588285
Yeah, this is true in the environment created by a weak father.
Women are absolutely brainwashed to sacrifice their children.
But this only happens if you let the bitch run wild and consume jewish media.
Bitches need to be corrected relentless, and it is a lot of work, but they will accept it if you keep pumping them full of sperm.
In your case you admit the dad is a cuck. So we agree here

>>512578328 (OP)
repeal the 13th too

>>512588146

Nah man. The ancient Greeks and Romans said women only wanted freedom to be selfish and commit evil deeds. And men were the only thing stopping them.

Where would men of the time get that idea? Rome and Greece were patriarchal. Wouldn't the women just have absorbed the patriarchal morality and be in harmony with the men?

>>512588436
>need to be corrected
have fun in jail. You can't correct them. or even raise your voice for that matter. clearly you have this fantasy wife and marriage in mind. you aren't allowed to be a father in modern america UNLESS you are a cuck. Being cucked is part of the deal. the dad cuck is one of the easiest to fall into because on the outside it appears based. and anyone that thinks the white race will be destroyed in also retarded. Russia and eastern Europe and doing fine and that's a huge part of the world population. no like is going to trick me into to changing diapers and paying more taxes.

>>512581688
I've never seen someone pathetically cry so much in a single thread as you, pedro. You're one node in a line of genetic failures stretching back to the Neolithic. Your women jumped through hoops to avoid you and carry European seed in the 1500s, yet you're still groveling and sniveling like a pussy trying to defend them and SIMP for them as much as possible. Women are traitors and your daughter is probably an ugly feminist whore. If you can get that through your microcephalic beaner head then get out of this thread and rope.

>>512588743
CAN'T get that through your head*

>>512587143
Just get rid of the welfare state and women will be forced to choose between following her sexual impulses and being a single mom with no support or shacking up with some boring practical guy. Its simple. Men are currently oppressed under heavy taxation, with no welfare states, women would be forced to be more practical and we all get to keep more of our paychecks. Don't even need to enslave women to get them to marry regular dudes, just get rid support for single moms/welfare and family formation will magically re-emerge since men won't have to compete with daddy government as a breadwinner.

>>512588726
I've done pretty well.
The thing is once a woman starts loving your kids they want more kids from you.
They know you're their best chance to have a kid, and by far their best chance to have another kid they'll love, so they choose you again and again.

You need to get it through your head that everyone is hardcoded to want babies.
That's why we're all here.

>>512578328 (OP)
Low birth rates are an economic phenomenon not a sociocultural one. They need people to reproduce to maintain the economy it's nothing more than that.

>>512588726

>just be more alpha bro
>it's your fault if you're not alpha enough

This juvenile chest thumping sounds great behind a keyboard but doesn't work so well in real life.

I bet that guy's like 18 and doesn't have much life experience

>>512582001
Yes you are subhuman cattle with a defective "brain" and karyotype. 5% of female fetuses kill themselves because your genomes are fundamentally fucked up.

>>512588969

Yeah I agree with that. Even ban child support for unwed mothers.

>Didn't secure commitment from the guy first? Sorry looks like you fucked up

Women will learn pretty quick but to whore around.

>>512588600
that's just the simplification of losers who don't understand the nature of humanity
why are you talking like everyone in greece and rome agreed on these hypersimplified blurbs?
is this really how you think about things?
do you just put youtube eceleb faggots words directly into your brain with no filter???

>>512589149
>just do some magic fixes to the system by...uh...voting...or something
only a literal child thinks this way
society is rigged and the jews in charge want it this way
they will never give you a concession on anything.
you simply have to remove them, which entails destroying society and building it again, because it turns out the vast majority of the population want things this way too.
How do you think things got to be like this?

>>512586510
>Poeple would totally vote for mass migration if they could have a referendum on it

They would because women are more than 50% of the population and they like foreigners ( foreign men tingle their pussies )

>>512580647
>And if you can't afford it, then that means that you couldn't either afford to get married and start a family.
Families are cheap anon. You try managing a home alone going into old age and watch as everything crumbles and all the predatory business and caregivers take everything from you. You'll end up dying alone and unloved in a nursing home if you don't have a family.
It's literally the most easiest and cheapest time in all of human history to raise a kid and you're filthy fucking rich compared to the vast majority of everybody who came before you. Like nigga, we get free (as in freedom) gibs, schooling, food, housing, healthcare if you're under a certain income level. Then you only have to give about 30% of your time to raise a successful child.

>>512588984
I hated kids even when I was one.
>>512589009
The rampant inceldom has really taken a toll on zoomers and younger guys. I don't feel sorry for them though. these fags will subscribe to one of these bitches only fans just so shell talk to them instead of saving for awhile and getting an escort. which conveniently brings me to my other point. If you aren't a cuck personality wise, you don't even have to look that good. for example, as a guy being a bit fat isn't a deal breaker at all. I've had women tell me this, some are even attracted to it. MOST normie guys are cucked and unable to make the approach. Even if a girl says she likes dorks that's not what they want sexually. it turns them off.

>>512587971
Angry simps are scary :(

>>512589451
>>just do some magic fixes to the system by...uh...voting...or something

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that was realistic I just said that's what should happen in an ideal world.

>>512589811
well by saying stuff like that you kind of imply that you think that's how things work
otherwise what is the point

>>512578328 (OP)
Voting doesn't matter. You can't elect a real communist.

>>512578328 (OP)
You should say this, in person, to any woman. Start with mom.

>>512587687
Females and geriatrics have no relevance in deciding the path of nations where revolution is involved. Only fighting-age men do.

>>512589849

Implies nothing of the sort. If you read my earlier posts you'd see I've been speaking about what I think SHOULD happen not what the people in charge will allow.

Why am I even replying to you? You sound like some Tiktok brained zoomer with a 10 second attention span

>>512590134
Why would you waste time talking about what SHOULD happen if its NOT POSSIBLE to make it happen?
Because you're stuck in a cuck state of mind where you will never be one of the people in charge.
So you have this pointless coping behavior of imagining what life would be like if you could magically make things better without making any effort.

You're going to die anyway, why don't you take a look around and realize what it actually takes to make things better and take that chance no matter how small?
Is it some kind of genetic restraint bred into you???
Are you just hard-coded slave??????????

We basically live in a matriarchy in western countries. Women control everything down to reproduction. If are critical of them in the slightest you're called an incel and the cops arrest you. Dark times we are in

>>512590437
it wont last. all matriarchies that have been successful (there isn't many) deeply valued the men still and the authority came in the form of loving mothers. neither attribute are present in this one. American women are unpopular everywhere in the world now because of what they do on social media, and they've lost all credibility politically. the generation of men coming to power nowadays have no respect for them either.

>>512589495
You are so full of shit jeet.

>>512581741
>Birth rates are only high in shithole countries
No they aren't.
https://www.ynetnews.com/jewish-world/article/h1cch618jg
The Israeli Ultra-Orthodox Jews (the Haredim) are exploding in population to the point of threatening to demographically take over their country despite Israel being developed & first world. Because being in an advanced country or a sophisticated economy isn't what drives birthrates below replacement — it's womens' rights, end of discussion.

>>512588969
Like I said if hooker refuses you that means no woman will tolerate you for a basic wage. With welfare or not.

>>512583261
That's not enough. Women must be restricted from employment because employment delays child rearing, and for womens' fertility window being as narrow as it is, delaying having kids for them effectively means drastically reducing how many kids they end up having.

>>512578328 (OP)
>Why do you people think birth rates are so low in Western countries?
Men still try the traditional route to babymaking e.g courting a woman and building a relationship on trust then get demoralized if they don't have the money for it even though hiring a surrogate mother is faster and cheaper.

>but romance and relationship
Just about 80% of this board either hates women or thinks women are retarded and realistically won't tolerate living with a woman. The other 19.9% might or might have tolerated co-habiting but otherwise agrees.

So just cut the bullshit and hire a surrogate mother. "Traditional" marriage is obsolete.

>>512583441
Marriage is literally a transaction for a man's productivity and a woma's fertility.
Every post endorsing the removing women's employment for financial dependence on a man is proof of that.

>>512578328 (OP)
14th and 15th amendments are unconstitutional because of the unconstitutional 1867 reconstruction act that put America under martial law, meaning, those amendments were not passed but coerced. This means the subsequent amendments are legally not passed either since the 14th and 15th amendments changed voting criteria. 1866 civil right act unconstitutional as well according to article 1 section 2 clause 3 as it nullifies "person."

>>512578328 (OP)
its been proven with the dating app data, chud!

>>512578328 (OP)
>Yer gross
>Please make tax dollars to feed me and Tyrone's children
Not gonna happen. The economy is fake and gay. Money is a Jewish illusion. Go blast all your holes on OnlyFans and send me NEETbux instead. How the turn tables...

>>512579046
>>512579045
>>512578328 (OP)
turns out women are right to distance themselves from men.
>wahhh we lonely
so comfort each other
>NO! WANT WOMEN OR KILL WANT WOMAN OR KILL
you should be lobotomized

>>512579427
Based and Tleilaxupilled

>>512579045
Really? Everyone knows this and all you tards do is harp on the internet about it. What exactly is being done? Nothing.

>>512581154
China is not western, but they are my guess for the first industrialized country to repeal women's rights. They have their own birthrate crisis to deal with, but strong Han nationalism will prevent them from opening up their borders to mass Indian and African migration. That only leaves the women problem as the way to fix their demographic situation.

As far as a white "western" country goes, the best bet will be one of the former communist countries of central and eastern Europe. They are still over 90% white and can use the other former white countries as an example of what not to do.

>>512594594
What a retarded opinion you have. White women have never in history been more free and what decisions do they make with all they freedom? They have kids with drug dealing 80 IQ woman beating niggers and vote for the rest of the world to come occupy their country. They're using their freedom to permanently erase their people and homelands.

>>512579045
The best part is this is happening at the same time as we are mastering AI and robotics. Right around the time women lose their rights, sexbots will go mainstream and those whores wont even be able to vote them away. Its going to be a based timeline.