Thread 512623379

>saying we won’t give our land away is a public meltdown
>zigger iq

blumpf btfo

>>512623526
>we
The us pays for HIS war
We decide it not him
He should have won it

>>512623379 (OP)
Cards status?

>>512623582
But he is winning it. Mad?

OP is a faggot and most likely brown.

>>512623635
>20% of your country occupied
>winning
Losing territory is losing retard
No amount of random gore webms changes that

>>512623704
Maybe in 20 more years and 200 million dead ziggers, kyiv will fall. Keep up the hard work, comrade.

He's right, again.

>>512623834
A couple of rockets and one day will be enough to bring down Kiev. There's no point in storming it

>>512623930
Two more weeks? What’s taking so long?

>>512623930
Could've sworn I heard this 4 years ago.

>>512623930
Can you go to the Kremlin and tell Putin to just do it?

>>512623635
>3 years in
>ukraine is in fact farther away from crimea than they started
"winning" if you mean running his nation into ruin over pride.

>>512623557
Holy shit, give your tds a rest for a while.

This is such a pro-wrestling show. Nothing is going to be worked out at the meeting. Here's why:

There are four issues on which Ukraine and Russia disagree:
1. territory
2. NATO membership
3. demilitarization
4. security guarantees (European troops stationed in Ukraine)

The US accepts Russia's position on 1 and 2, so that is what the public discussion in the West centers on. But there are still issues 3 and 4, which Russia will not concede on. The US treats these issues as non-issues because they deny that Russia has a position on them. Denying Russia's positions in no way makes Russia's positions go away. They are still there. They just aren't discussed in the West. And they are crucial to achieving peace.

So all this talk about issues 1 and 2 doesn't matter, as long as issues 3 and 4 are not dealt with. It's like discussing the oil and transmission fluid levels in a car without addressing the fact there is no gas in the tank. The oil and transmission fluid problem can be worked out, and the car still won't go if the gas tank is empty.

All these discussions are just for show. I don't know why they even bother.

>>512623930
Nuke it and I will give you my turtle

Putin actually said that he would make a law containing a promise that Russia wouldnt attack Europe if his demands about Ukraine are fulfilled. Zelensky is endangering European security by undermining this deal.

>>512623379 (OP)
Does this midget kike know that his country would've been annexed at least a year ago without the US? How long does he intend to impotently pretend he's in a position of strength? Is he prepared to just have the whole thing turned to Gaza before he flees to Israel?

When Trump was first inaugurated, I paid close attention to what all members of the administration were saying. Vance, Rubio, Hegseth, Waltz, Kellogg, Witkoff, and finally Trump all said, in various ways, that Ukraine would get security guarantees in the form of European troops stationed in Ukraine after the war.

That's all I needed to know. The administration itself was making a peace deal impossible. All of the meetings, phone calls, etc. were just for show.

>>512625057
doxxed

>>512625339
>security guarantees in the form of European troops

xD

>>512625085
Putin's "laws and promises" have no meaning. are you trolling right now?

>>512625085
Putin's "laws and promises" have no meaning, he's consistently broken them throughout the years.

>>512625085
Poland why don’t you do the needful and split Ukraine with Russia? You can both get your historical lands back and we never have to hear about this bullshit fake ass country “Ukraine” ever again? It’s one of the reasons I support Israel annexing Gaza. Tired of this shit.

>>512625521
Zelensky said there had to be 200,000 or it wasn't worth sending any. The UK and France have said they will send them. The US has treated this as a given that is not up for debate or negotiation. Sometimes they call it "security guarantees," and sometimes they call it "lasting peace" or "durable peace," but it all means the same thing: European troops stationed in Ukraine.

There is no peace deal that does not prohibit this that Russia will sign. The US thinks they can just leave it out of the deal and it can be dealt with after the deal is signed. But no deal will be signed that doesn't exclude the possibility.

>>512625651
And the west has never provoked Russia ever right?

>>512623612
Joker

>>512625651
European countries do not have any better option than this. They must rely on good or bad will of Russia because they does have no power and no political will to change military situation in Ukraine. I dont see fe Romania having skin in the game.

>>512625774
>Zelensky said there had to be 200,000 or it wasn't worth sending any. The UK and France have said they will send them

I appreciate your sense of humour xD

>>512623379 (OP)
Can i see his cards?

>>512623582
You. Deciding. LMAO How delusional can you be? You are kike puppets you fucking mongloid mutt. More destruction in Ukraine is more money for the kikes, you have no power over ending the war. Trump doesnt have the balls to sanction russia anymore. So shut the fuck goyim and keep on paying. You dont like it, start killing kikes, that is your only option and you know it

>>512625651
European countries do not have any better option than this. They must rely on good or bad will of Russia because they have no power and no political will to change military situation in Ukraine. I dont see fe Romania having skin in the game

>>512623379 (OP)
Easy for this dictator to say when it's not him dying on the frontlines.

>>512625818
not saying any of that, you're not wrong, but whatever Putin says is meaningless.

>>512623379 (OP)
Give land or face total hohol death. Nothing of value will be lost in either case.

>>512625770
Polish government currently prepared plans of mass evacuation of large part of Eastern Poland, so they rather create a legal basis for giving up Polish territory instead of enlarging it at cost of others xD

>>512623379 (OP)
We are told to simultaneously believe that there should be open borders, and to let any population in anywhere - while also being told the ukranians should die to the last man to defend their "land." How can anyone who isn't retarded see how all we are fed is lies. You are a plaything for the elite, your life is a crude tool with little value

>>512625774
>There is no peace deal that does not prohibit this that Russia will sign
Unreadable. Triple negative? Just use a negative and a positive.
“Russia will not sign a peace deal that includes troops on the border”

How is this faggot going to continue this war? Has he set up a gofundme yet?

>>512625001
>This is such a pro-wrestling show
>I don't know why they even bother.
I think its even faker and gayer than you give it credit for. It looks the point is to just be able to "draft" anyone you want in your country and send them to "fight" on the "front lines" where they stand there in a field by themself, sometimes without a weapon, and wait for their designated death drone to show up and execute them. Bonus points if you dig a trench to be your grave first. Dont believe for a second that the masons and jews in russia arent on the same team as the masons and jews in every other country. This is project zephyrr, and europe is ready to do the same now that they've got critical mass of muslim men imported that wont ever get drafted.

The jewish blood-sacrifice disguised as a war must go on...

>>512623379 (OP)
i'm so tired of this grifter

>>512625956
Whether they will actually send them isn't really important, because that will (or won't) actually happen until after a peace agreement is signed.

A peace agreement that does not prohibit European troops in Ukraine will not be signed by Russia, but Ukraine, with Western backing, will not sign a peace that prohibits them. So there will never be a peace agreement in the first place after which the Europeans will or will not send troops to Ukraine.

>>512626315
yeah it's this website us.gov

>>512623834
Nobody wants Kiev, retard. Do you really think anyone is stupid enough to pursue the occupation of a foreign country? The US wasted 2 trillion occupying Afghanistan, and the sandniggers were far easier to identify than Russia occupying Ukrainians. Putin likely wants Zelensky and NATO cucks out, a puppet president in, and he wants the oil rights that Crimea give him in the Black Sea. All this shit started in 2008, when nigger Obama sent in US (((oil companies))) to start building infrastructure in Ukraine, which would have been competition for Russia's primary source of global revenue. As well as kill transportation of Russian oil/gas to Europe. That’s why Victoria nuland had yanukovich overthrown for poroshenko. NATO cucks wanted to steal Russian industry which is even more unforgivable than setting up military bases and biolabs nextdoor. You have a child’s understanding of geopolitics

>>512626441
Us.goy

>>512623379 (OP)
Is Zelensky still pretending he's the duly elected leader of an independent country?

>"americans do not get to decide to give away ukrainian land"
>public meltdown
hello john smith from texas oblast

>>512623557
>Blowing up our own bridges is winning

The state of holhols

>>512623379 (OP)
how is this faggot not dead. is this war even real

>>512623379 (OP)
fight to the last goy!

>>512623379 (OP)
And BLUMPF will literally continue to fund him

If you remember correctly we wanted Blumpf to tell Zelenskyy to fuck off

>>512623834
If Russia wasn't trying to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties Kiev would have been reduced to rubble long ago. They are fighting minimally invasive, like a surgeon they are trying to cut out only the cancerous tissue.

>>512625999
>you have no power over ending the war

The US does not have power to stop Russia, indeed, but Americans live on different continent so they dont need to pretend that this is their problem.

>>512623379 (OP)
Okay. There's no real good solution here though. Either Russia collapses internally, or Ukraine does. Other than that the war goes on.

>>512626256
How do you feel about that? Does the common man actually believe Russian invasion is imminent? Aren’t you in NATO? You guys need to be more perfidious. When I imagine polish people I imagine huge bulky skinhead dudes who have a taste for blood, klashnikovs and E36 BMWs, not little pussies ready to run away let alone retake their own historic lands when the opportunity presents itself on a silver platter. I am disappoint

>>512626616
that's the only way it's going to end
ukes love coups, so they're probably already trying
I bet at there's at least one attempt on his life every month

>>512623930
>If I can't win at Monopoly I will burn the board
This is not a good look. Want to be regarded as even bigger pieces of shit than what you already are regarded as?

>>512625001
>4. security guarantees
what makes you think Russia will ever trust the west ever again?
lot of kikes and their golems will feel really dumb next week

>>512626674
Big delusion. Russia stopped because tanks and planes were being destroyed left and right. Russia didn't have the military capacity to take Ukraine with a blitzkrieg at the time and doesn't have today either. They tried again with lots of tanks only to end up in a tank cemetery. That's why Russia uses so many glide bombs, drones and arteliry, because they don't have a choice.

>>512626444
Democrats were extremely booty blasted when Putin went after the oligarchs (I wonder why?). They’ve held a grudge ever since. They even tricked that Georgian president to try to retake Abkhazia. Now Georgia is firmly pro-Russia since no one else can be trusted not to poke the bear.

>>512624576
I begged him again and again but he is too kind-hearted and romantically views Hohols as "misled brothers" that deserve to be spared.

>>512623379 (OP)
The manlet kike is saying this because he literally has to in order to save face. Everyone knows he doesnt really get to decide what happens in Ukraine.

>>512626744
Dude, half of this nation was injected with US-American/British/German genetic bioweapon cosplaying as "vaccine". Poland currently loses 350k people annually as a result of deaths exceeding births. It is as if Putin was dropping a 1MT nuke on a Polish city of middle-size annually, and this depopulation only accelerates. Why should anybody here care about anything? Half of this country already speaks Russian in result of immigration policies of last decade.

>>512625818
Nope. We generally do not think about Russians at all except when they act like rabid dogs.

>>512626444
>Ehrmahgerd, those dastardly oil companies
They were also heavily invested in Russia. Russia liked that. Can not have it both ways.

>>512626499
He is the duly elected leader of an independent counry.

>>512626547
Blowing up Russian bridges too you disingenuous cancer.

>>512623379 (OP)
If they present a reasonable deal to Zelensky and he doesn't take it, they'll just pull the plug. There's deals to be made with Russia and every day the war continues, opportunities are lost. Trump is sick of this fucking war, understands it's the fault of the US that it even happened, and wants to wrap it up.

>>512626955
you are retarded, if russia wanted they could level kiev in couple days
you dont want to see russia at war.

>>512623966
They dont want to destroy Kiev and kill civilians

>>512627006
Is that why Azerbaijan and Armenia publicly stated several times they are firmly against Russia? Because don't pole the bear? Read more instead of making crap false allegations.

>>512623966
Time is on Russia's side. The longer the war keeps going the more damage it does to Western economy and political stability.

>>512626676
>Americans live on different continent so they dont need to pretend that this is their problem.
Trump has mentioned this a lot. "This is Europe's problem. We have an ocean. We are an ocean away"

>>512627227
Oh yeah? So what are they waiting for? Why are they bombing civilians regardless? They're playing on retarded mode on purpose? They wanted to destroy it's own population and economy? That's the reason?

>>512623379 (OP)
>kvetching increases in both volume and duration
K, keep me posted

Trump should send some officials out onto the streets of Ukraine to ask ordinary people if Ukraine should give up land to end the fighting. Somehow I don't think Zelensky is representative of the country.

>>512627006
Actually it startedin the 1600s when Russia refused to open thier markets to the slave trade.
Some people really hold a grudge

>>512627281
No it's not. Russia economy just crashed. It's not even a maye it will, it crashed. It's known because the minister of economy of Russia declared they're going to have severe austerity. Do you morons pull all news out of your asses?

>>512623379 (OP)
Holy based Vladimir "Agent Z" Zelenskyi, enacting Russian ultranationalist goals of THD that Cucktin refuses to pursue.

To the bitter end. No step back.

>>512627524
Hasnt portugal been under austerity for like 2 decades now? kek

>>512627505
Like you PM is representative of English people

>>512627398
because russia is not pissrael and ukrainian civilians are not the enemy you absolute retarded monkey beast

>>512627585
Austerity is a buzzword for talking heads and nothing more.

>>512627585
No. What a retard pulling more fake news out of his ass. If you're gonna banter do a little bit of research.

>>512623379 (OP)

How about you muricans giving Alaska to Russians because you liked them so much?

>>512627609
lmao yeah sure. That much be the reason for sure. They're bombing civilians right now because what? A mistake? What a retard. Kys.

>>512625339
> European troops stationed in Ukraine
Nice. This only motivates Russia to make sure that there will be no "Ukraine" left after the war. This scenario was their "raison de guerre" in the first place.

NAFO troons gonna have another meltdown

>>512625701
Unlike the West who always kept their promises!

>>512625770
It's perfect with one amendment, Jewlensky is sent to a taxidermist and displayed somewhere along the new Poland/Russian border.

>>512623379 (OP)
you have to be completely retarded to want this war to end. russia is a shell of a country and not a single american soldier's life has been lost in the process. truly mongoloid to not see this as a boon to the west.

>>512627585
Lol thanks

If there's one thing we all do better than Reddit it's 4chan

>>512627740
Probably. Europe isn't going to like this, they want to end Russia. Whether Trump deal is a good idea or not, nobody knows the future.

>>512623379 (OP)
uhh
70% of ukrainian territory was gibs from russia lmao

>>512627878
This. One more year, and Russia wont have bombs/missiles/drones etc.

>>512627700
only a jew rat like yourself will mistake morality for weakness

>>512625085
>Putin actually said that he would make a law containing a promise that Russia wouldnt attack Europe
worlds dumbest polak right here

>>512623379 (OP)
Oh boo hoo
He can't send any more ukrainians to the meat grinder.
If I was him I'd just step down and exile myself to Israel

>>512627878
Drump has the wrong advisors. A couple hundred billion for a year or two and all of Russia will be for sale for pennies on the dollar. Blackrock would approve

>>512628009
Or maybe you're a wrong dumb fuck. Ever thought of that? Russia doesn't give a shit about Russian soldiers let alone Ukriane civilians. If they did they wouldn't have started this war, or resorted to meat grinders, or randomly bombing cilvian buildings. What a dreamer. You must be like that American gullible dumb fuck you thought Russia was a greater place than USA and was forced in the front lines.

Zelensky cares more about the optics than about whats best for Ukraine, and this will sure bite Ukraine in the ass. Permanently. They will permanently lose territories, and Zelensky will get zero blame for, someone else will run the country, and Zelensky will spend the rest of his life playing the brave victim in adoring interviews abroad.

>>512627222
>can’t have it both ways
Says anon from the ladyboy capital of the world.
Apparently Russia can. They didn’t like oil kikes undercutting their market. Just like Saddam Hussein didn’t like the Kuwaitis doing the Montgomery burns slant oil drilling into their fields. Existential economic threats will always be dealt with accordingly. Except the US public has no stomach to fight in Ukraine.

>>512628105
I am a geostrategic realist, actually xD

>>512623379 (OP)
>please send money
>please give me more land

>>512628186
Possible but that's also risky. Russia could come up with new weapons or ideas in two years. Ending the war or continuing are both risky.

>>512628272
>>512627144
no, you are a liar and a nigger and probably not even polish

>>512625774
> 200,000 or it wasn't worth sending any. The UK and France have said they will send them.
The entire UK army has 74k troops

>>512627878
Fuck off Crenshaw, most Americans are not bloodthirsty ghouls who would agree with this sentiment.

Why haven't the retarded hohols killed this guy yet?

>>512626423
If Ukraine has a peace agreement they need no foreign troops. Unless they plan to eventually reconquer lost territory under the cover of those troops. It's Russia that for this reason needs no troops in Ukraine as a "security guarantee". And they will continue this war until there is no doubt about this not happening. If the West wants to end this war they will have to accept this or lose only even more of Ukraine's territory and precious resources. Russia is in a position now that allows them to have the West beg for peace.

>>512627698
How about you reach the minimum defense spending required by nato instead of leaching off of the benefits provided by American taxpayers

>>512627222
Oh yeah? He got the majority of the vote in the last election they were supposed to have?

>>512628328
I showed you data of Polish statistic office (GUS). General population of Poland, if we also count like half of Ukraine and Belarus that moved here physically, might be different but GUS counts only Polish citizens, not foreign residents

>>512623379 (OP)
He's not really in that position to be making demands as Nato funding/supplies/intelligence are the only reason he hasn't been completely overrun. Look what happened last time the US cut off intelligence to them.

>>512628363
you cannot claim to not be bloodthirsty if you want russia to regain any amount of power post ukraine war. you are a literal retard that should open wikipedia and see how many invasions russia has had since its collapse.

>>512628332
I hope the London bankers who start these wars are aware of this

>>512628315
>Russia could come up with new weapons or ideas in two years.
>two more years

>>512628528
Kys bloodthirsty kike

>>512628574
Lol yeah but it's possible. Maybe. Unlikely but would you bet on that?

>>512627509
Yeah, they still post pictures of themselves flipping off Roman architecture out of spite.

>>512628332
Iirc Starmer said 10k british troops

>>512628587
>noooooo guys putin really means it this time hes going to stop invading nooooo trust him
kill yourself tonight you room temp iq retard

>>512623379 (OP)
this is all so hilarious
they probably will still meet in alaska

>>512628528
Pivoted to an entirely different line of argument there, telltale mark of a shill.

>>512623379 (OP)
We've reached this really awkward point were Zelensky has decided the only way he personally can survive this gigantic mess he's created is if he forces the entire male population of his country to continue sacrificing themselves for his numerous series of unending fuckups.

>>512628617
yes, and id win that bet. russia is looking to import 1 million jeets for slave labor, how well do you think they're doing internally right now fighting their poorer retarded cousin, and how well do you think they would do trying to take on the west?

>>512628636
>russias gonna invade actual NATO
>can't even take kyyv
Oh so you're just retarded lmao. Well I hope Putler keeps you up at night

>>512623379 (OP)
>fellow ukranians
Fucking kikes man

>>512628666
literally the same argument you just made retard lmao. if you want less bloodshed you need to end putins ability to make war NOW.

>>512628741
read what im saying moron.

I don't even care anymore.

>>512628332
Not enough even to keep the paki rape gangs in check. If they were trying to i.e.

>>512627222
>>512623557
>>512623635
NAFO troons coping

>>512625085
Why do psheks always lie?

>>512628628
That might be the number they already have sent to Ukraine. Officially, half-officially and secretly.

>>512628712
Saudi arabian news reportedhe bought an apartment in that tallest building in the world, think UAE.

>>512628961
And they are all dead lmfao

>>512626444
>Putin likely wants Zelensky and NATO cucks out, a puppet president in
How is he going to get that exactly without taking Kyiv?

>>512623379 (OP)
What's his problem?

>>512628786
> end putins ability to make war NOW.
If only we had known this earlier!

>>512628946
Thats true, i read it in Wall Street Journal today. I read only Western press, so nobody called me a "Russian agent".

https://www.wsj.com/world/putin-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-proposal-0021453b

>>512629079
i think trapping him in this quagmire of a 3 day special operation is an opportunity thats presented itself to us. why end it now?

>>512629041
Putin said straight up Zelensky and his party will be removed just like they did with the NAZIs

>>512629157
Again, how will they do that exactly without taking Kyiv?

>>512629142
Trump wants to. He said he doesn't like all the people dying in the war

>>512629225
oh like he gives a fuck about slavs now

>>512629036
Not sure if all of them but quite a few happened to have fatal "accidents" on some "vacation" or in "training".

It's part of the script. Some time during this week, one last major, very expensive, tariff-funded decapitation attack will take place in Russia. I think Medvedev might be the primary target since his Tweets bother Trump so. Trump, thinking he is so slick, will deny any knowledge of the attack. Soon after he starts waving his hands like an idiot, humanity comes to an end.

Then the alien ship lands and starts a better world.

a shame Ukraine lost all the good parts of the country. If they don't play nice now they might even lose access to the sea. All the precious Leopards for nothing. Well done Ukros

>>512629317
That's what hes said many times for months. Very consistent on it. Thats his stated reason. Too many people dying

>>512629317
He wants to focus on the middle east and wants business and better relations with Russia (because of China).
If you can't defeat your enemy make him your friend.

>>512629561
No pigs on the beach!

>>512623379 (OP)
He calmly explained the people's reasoning.
OP IS A LOW IQ SHILL.

>>512626862
>Want to be regarded as even bigger pieces of shit than what you already are regarded as?
Oh noes...
We don't give a shit about what nafoids think.

>>512629618
It's not for reasons of personal empathy but geopolitical necessity that he wants peace with Russia.

>>512629700
kek

>>512629017
Why the fuck would he do that? Do you buy random flats abroad?

>>512628712
Well it's one option. I'd probably go that way too because this is telling Russia can start war with anyone and win something. But I'm not Ukrainian so it's not my place to tell them how to sacrifice their lives.

>>512623526

Shut up


I would kill you in real life loser


Know your fucking place goy

>>512629648
russia becoming a chinese vassal state stuck in a war is not bad news for america. what will china do for a russia at war that it hasn't do already without suffering economic damage it can't afford right now anyway?

>>512629203
Zelensky will flee and everything will go to shit. Wait and see.

>>512623526
>>512623557
UYKIE SISSIES
EMERGENCY MEETING NOW FOR DAMAGE CONTROL

>>512623526
Tell that jew to go die for it then. Oh wait, all he does is send goyim to die despite their protests.
Most Ukrainians are fine with giving up that land now if it means an end to the conflict. They openly oppose the continued forced conscription of men.
Yet this jew continues to say they won't stop until every last goy in Ukraine is dead. Ethnic cleansing of both Gaza and Ukraine. Funny, the jews claim both as ancestral territory.

>>512629867
Why would he flee unless Russia manages to take Kyiv?

>>512629781
Because as long as you pay the UAE you can hide out there. The leaders of Hamas are there.

>>512623582
The people are on the side of Ukraine, and want total war against Russia, and the death of Putin, or for him to be tried and executed, internationally. And they want a return to the 1991 border order. We must immediately, at the very least, enable longer range strategic strikes on Russian targets, by the AFU. They need better quality and quantity of weapons systems. A grand mercenary Air Force personnel enhancement. 100s of new trained and experienced pilots. Scores of air craft of varying kinds, including radar planes, A-10 Warthogs another couple of squadrons of F-16s, with hardware/software upgrades, ect. Massive amounts of the components required for fiber optic OWA drones. Stuff like that.

>>512629707
>the people
He speaks to the dead?

>He literally thought he's special
LMFAO!

>>512628786
No it isn't. You gave the Crenshaw line that since Russia is our enemy and only Ukrainians are dying fighting them, therefore the Ukraine war is an absolute win. A totally amoral, bloodthirsty ghoul argument that discounts the lives of Ukrainians completely. But now you're trying to pretend it's about saving lives from theoretical future Putin actions, even though you're supporting killing people in reality right now.

Nobody is fooled by you demons.

>>512629963
>The people are on the side of Ukraine, and want total war against Russia, and the death of Putin, or for him to be tried and executed, internationally

The same people that were "covid vaccinated"? What they want is irrelevant xD

>>512629123
> demanding major territorial concessions by Kyiv—and a push for global recognition of its claims
The EUSSR has already declined, they rather have the war going on:
https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraine-and-europe-counter-putins-cease-fire-proposal-6a16133c?mod=WTRN_pos1

>>512629764
I think thats the main reason. It's a drag on his Presidency

>>512629963
Gallup was just allowed to do an honest poll for the first time in years. 70% of ukraine does not support this war.
Faggot

>>512629817
Cringe

>>512630037
Little man need to go.

>>512628315
Yeah but imagine the payoff. Literally everything for sale like its the 1990s.

What kind of miracle weapon do you think they could come up with? LSD covered Shaheeds? A Kinzhal carrying propaganda leaflets?

>>512629963
>We
No. Go enlist with the Ukrainians if you care that much.

>>512623379 (OP)
Ukraine shows you don't even need an economy to be a functional total war state.

>>512623379 (OP)
>>512628786
>if you want less bloodshed you need to end putins ability to make war NOW.
faggot nigger kike logic
same as the
>"but it rewards HAMAS!!!"

>>512630073

You lost, back to Re%%% democrat scum

>>512630230
Literally illegal to say in your country, smelly. They are both little men.

>>512629790
The West started the war, Russia only started an invasion to end it.

>>512630267
>Ukraine shows you don't even need an economy to be a functional total war state.

Thats because it was funded by euro/dollar that they were replacing for Chinese products xD

>>512630316
Does this look like winning?

>>512630321
Exist only one little man who need to go, mr. Zelensky.

>>512630073
tell me how you are not a bloodthirsty ghoul for appeasing putin until his next east european chimpout invasion bonanza which get this: will have casualities

>>512625774
>Zelensky said there had to be 200,000 or it wasn't worth sending any. The UK and France have said they will send them. The US has treated this as a given that is not up for debate or negotiation. Sometimes they call it "security guarantees," and sometimes they call it "lasting peace" or "durable peace," but it all means the same thing:

pic related

>>512629963
We should withdraw all support because playing grabass in Eastern Europe is dumb and creates a non-zero chance of escalation to nuclear war. My friends, family and myself have zero interest in fighting proxy wars with Russia; as plebs we take on all of the risks of war but even in the case of victory we will receive 0% of the profits. Those will all go to hedge funds, central bankers and war profiteers. All risk, no reward? It won't get my support.

>>512629932
Because some of his hohols will become more dangerous enemies to him than Putin. Ten thousand widows already would like to suicide bomb him.

>>512629963
>they want a return to the 1991 border order
Who are (they) to decide where borders should be?
People of Donbass and Crimea had a referendum, but some euro cucks want them to stay in Ukraine.

>>512630309
i literally do not give a fuck about jews or arabs, they can fight each other for eternity. lets not bring them into this convesation

>>512630380
Why you collect such things?!

>>512630314
>Re%%%
Someone attend to this bot, it's broken.
>>512630398
>Still trying to pivot to something that sounds less ghoulish after getting caught out
You can have the last reply from here, my point's made.

>>512630380
Does this?

>>512623834
Kek, this makes ziggers turn into grounded meat

>>512623557
seeing a lot of duplicate cards, zelensky can't afford a real deck. The american money is drying up.

>>512630504
you never had a point, and you refuse to elaborate because of it

>>512625521
You are going in Ukraine along with Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, the 3 Baltic states, France and UK.
Germany will join last after EU NATO troops start to get killed.

>>512623379 (OP)
I don't blame him. It's been obvious for months that Trump's single only play is to give Putin everything that Putin wants.

>>512630398
Putin didnt move 1 foot from his borders untill you faggot kike niggers started
>webm related

>>512623379 (OP)
Thats funny...Thé "occupaers" are kikes,just liké himself.Russian Élites are more Juwish,than IDF,kek....

>>512630492
Once you faggots stop ACKing yourselves at a rate exceeding trannies, I'll stop collecting

to be an ally is fatal

>>512623379 (OP)
>meltdown
Funny man is not so funny now is he?

>>512628332
I doubt that UK soldiers will accept to fight against a country that give equal rights to straight white men.
Maybe they will, but if I was one of them I wouldn't.

>>512623379 (OP)
SO BASED SO HECKIN BASED NAFOSISTERS

TO THE LAST ZIGGER

TO THE LAST PIGGER

WAR

WAR

WAR

>>512630398
> his next east european chimpout invasion
You forgot to add "totally unprovoked" or "for no reason".

>>512630590
literally retarded for still buying the you started it lie.
the reunification of the ussr was putins goal since the 90s.

>>512630614
You are retard?

>>512630550
It is actually quite possible that Bolanda would be thrown under Russian train because it is ruled by absolute degenerates who are a typical example of neoconial "elite" whose political power is obeying external orders. But France and UK sending any larger forces is virtuallly impossible, even for this simple reason that they dont exist xD

>>512623526
>angry zoomer crybaby muty with an extremely low iq has opinions
Many such cases

>>512630557
>I don't blame him. It's been obvious for months that Trump's single only play is to give Putin everything that Putin wants.

Its called "Russia won the war"
and its mutually exclusive from Putins desires in every physical sense

maybe ukraine should try to win next time (there wont be a 'next time')

>>512630550
It is actually quite possible that Bolanda would be thrown under Russian train because it is ruled by absolute degenerates who are a typical example of neoconial "elite" whose political power is based on obeying external orders. But France and UK sending any larger forces is virtuallly impossible, even for this simple reason that they dont exist xD

>>512630509
Looks unreal like it was "AI" produced. Don't tell me I'm wrong.

>>512630650
>I doubt that UK soldiers will accept to fight against
This fool does not know what army is. He thinks soldiers have free will.
Ahahahhahahah

>>512630748
Putins abstract dreams have nothing to do with the actions ukraine committed that led to this very moment today

ukraine should have thought about the consequences of its actions

>>512630764
Am I?

>>512623379 (OP)
>we won't give them land they already have
kek

>>512630854
>Looks unreal like it was "AI" produced. Don't tell me I'm wrong.

literally so many dead ukikes it LOOKS like "A.I."

>>512623834
>um aktually it's pronounced 'keev'

This little mutt is definitely one of those retards

Trump is actually dumb enough to think Putin wants peace.

>>512627144
based. import facharbeiter.

>>512623379 (OP)
Shut up.
The weak should fear the strong.
The weak must obey the strong.

>>512630920
>we won't give them land they already have
>kek

LMAO
its yet more of
>webm related
faggot retardation that london cooks up, that comes out of zelenskys mouth

>>512628432
Could this possibly be the reason why nobody takes the Z-man seriously anymore?
>women of the EU government don't count, world leaders wipe their asses with them too

>>512630956
>Trump is actually dumb enough to think Putin wants peace.
Putin wants peace because he won
its ukraine who refuses to surrender for their own fucking good

but oh well
ukraine can demand the war go on for "as long as it takes" to realize they lost

simple as

>>512625085
That guy who starts illegal wars is going to follow his own made up law to not start illegal wars...

>>512631096
Are there legal wars?

>>512626544
But they do, hohols obey Americans, not the other way around

>>512631096
>illegal wars
you mean like the one's USA has been having for the past 70~ years?

>>512630870
This was Odessa. If Odessa falls , Ukraine falls.
So they killed with merciless force any Russians who disobey in the Union building in Odessa.
They did the right thing. History proved it was the right thing.
Thr resistance in Odessa was crushed ,not allowing it to even takes any forms.
Putin did not invade to.crush the ukr state. He waited 8 years.

>>512631291
>hohols obey Americans

Not entirely, actually, which is rather humiliating for the US and its delusional elites

>>512623834
BBC estimates ~200k dead Russians right now. If the war carried on for another 20 years, Russia might lose 1.4 Million by the end. But that assumes that Ukraine is somehow able to inflict casualties while they're out of men and munitions. Russia could solve this problem if it cut into their population sustainability by outlawing abortion.

>>512629817
How's the weather at the Pentagon?

>>512631256
Yes. All wars that GAE starts

>>512631096
If he ends the war and begins it again then he wouldn't be able to renegotiate and good faith thus giving the glow nigger spooks carte Blanche to do whatever they wanted. The fact that Putin is even considering such measures is a good thing. Any amount of Ukrainian territory that is now pro-west is a gain in the grand scheme of things. Both sides have a vested interest in terminating this conflict with their "dignity" intact. Perpetual war is not an option.

>>512630870
>burn yourself and others alive
FUCKING XOXOLS

honestly, id say we just let them fight. They clearly want to continue.
I dont mind my taxmoney being spent on anti-russian drones, even if it turns out ukraine ultimately lose.

>>512631040
>Putin wants peace because he won
oh yeah? did he denazify ukraine yet?

>>512623557
holy fuck, even the propaganda admits there is nothing but desperate sabotage acts that Ukraine can do

>>512631399
> If the war carried on for another 20 years
Ukraine can hardly sustain two more years without foreign troops in the hundreds of thousands coming to their aid.

>>512623834
>>512631399
This is the current state of non-combatant proponents of both sides of this conflict.

You faggots are absolutely delusional. I wish you turds would meet each other in a field and have a duel but we all know neither of you have the balls to put your asses where your mouths are.

>>512623557
kek, the reddit nafo fella energy on this one is palpable.

>>512631482
>oh yeah? did he denazify ukraine yet?
lmao, basically YES

>>512629041
Probably in a similar way the US did in Ukraine in 2014, or in the Arab spring, or in Syria, or in Libya, or most countries in Africa. The way they did in Afghanistan in 2002. There are plenty of ways to topple a govt and install a tin pot dictator without military occupation. Color revolutions or neo colonialism are both pretty effective.

>>512623557
Why does he look so smug when his country is actively being invaded and conquered?

>>512631512
Yes, dont forget that there were a bunch of kids on that train that was derailed.

Neither side has any moral authority over the other. This has been the worst war of the 21st century by far

>>512631482
He hasn't finished the job yet, you are absolutely right. I would be disappoint if he stopped now. Unnecessarily, while Ukraine loses men, ground, support, hope...

>>512631677
lmao that bridge and the faggot nigger nato obsession with it will never NOT be funny
>pic related
was designed exactly precisely with petty attacks in mind
its impossible to blow up

it would take every single cruise missile in europe to take out of commission for longer than a few days

>>512630123
Wrong. I am part of that very set. And I certainly didn't take the covid gene therapy product injectables.
>>512630199
>
fake news. 82% of Ukrainians are against surrender. And guess who makes up most of the 18%? Yeah, racial moscovites.
>>512630246
eat shit
>>512630424
wrong. Russia will be obliterated. Moscow will lose land holdings to the asiatics, as well. They'll join with us. Independence movements, I mean.
>>512630436
Fake referendums. Give me a fucking break.

>>512631738
Its been proven the CIA assasinated the catholic prime minister of vietnam and his brother then installed a buddist puppet.
2 weeks before JFK was assasinated......

>>512631746
>Why does he look so smug when his country is actively being invaded and conquered?
delusional psychosis is the defeault state of a ukrainian

>>512631818
What outcome do you wish for in this conflict? Is your motivation to shame neo-liberalism in the west so it imploded or what?

>>512623379 (OP)
He is president of literally nothing he sold Ukraine to UK and US. Can't wait for Ukrainians to realize they are literally dying for country that was sold to two major powers.

>>512631874
So Gallup is fake?
Really faggot?
You will never be a woman

>>512623379 (OP)
Zelensky is a crybaby. Why do jews love doing war so much?

I WAS RIGHT
NORMIES & NU/pol/ WAS WRONG AGAIN

THE WAR CONTINUES XDDDDD

>>512630854
the war is over and russia won

>>512623635
You stupid fucking niggers need to be executed

>>512631874
Why are you posting here and not fighting on the front or at least offering support in western Ukraine, fag?

>>512629817
Based Israeli.
I'm glad we are allies now.

>>512631966
Honestly seems like a smart move there. If you're going to die then at least run into the explosion so you die quickly rather than die from a bunch of shrapnel injuries.

>>512631874
Also
>The Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) was founded in 1990 as a research center of the Sociological Association of Ukraine. In 1992, a partnership was established with the Paragon Research International and thus the research center became a Ukrainian-American research company under the name of KIIS.

Nice CIA propaganda
Faggot

>>512623379 (OP)
The idea of "Russia" came from Kiev and the royal family of Russia was dynastically exterminated by the Bolsheviks during their civil war who took over Kiev and installed the Ukrainian People's Republic making it a symbolic logistical prize to eliminate the idea of Russia's legitimate existence.

>>512631918
Yes, I wish the EUSSR would break apart as a result of this irresponsibly stupid "adventure". Wishful thinking I admit.

>>512631512
>>512631765
This is what has bothered me most. Not a single 'talking head' anywhere pointing out neither side is clean, never was, and they are both committing atrocities while claiming to be justified by those of the other. Yes, that is the reality of war, but with the supposed amount of freedom in communication, somewhere, someone with pull that is articulate should be saying something. Warfare has been altered to ww1 trenches, art, and some light mech and armor with the threat of a 'Zeppelin' raid that won't be stoppable if set on a city. Radio jamming doesnt matter if I pre program my drones.

>>512631874
Lets check out thier funding, faggot

>Current funding for the RLMS is provided by the Higher School of Economics and the US National Institutes of Health via a subcontract from Cornell University. Earlier funding came from an array of organizations including: United States Agency for International Development (USAID), the Pension Fund of the Russsian Federation, SIDA, Vision International People Group Public Limited; the National Institutes of Health (Grant RO1HD30880), the National Science Foundation (Grant SES92-23326), the World Bank, the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (through the Stockholm Institute of Transition Economics), the Ford Foundation, and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The World Bank provided major funding for the first year of the project. In 1993 USAID and the World Bank provided some support to keep research going for a second year. Then, for about a decade, it was USAID and the NIH that provided all support.

>>512629817
Kevin, mom needs you to take out the trash and feed the dog. She also said to make sure you do your homework.

>>512631883
I didn’t know that, but I’m not surprised to hear it. All govts are chosen and replaced by a cabal of powerbrokers that run the world. When people realize that we’ve all been domesticated like cattle, everything makes more sense.

>>512632782
100% true
Theory is it was done without his permission and he was going after them so they killed him.

>>512625085
Lol and what if they break this law? Theyre going to persecute themselves?

>On 2 November 1963, Ngô Đình Diệm, the president of South Vietnam, was arrested and assassinated in a CIA-backed coup d'état led by General Dương Văn Minh

>John F. Kennedy, the 35th president of the United States, was assassinated while riding in a presidential motorcade through Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas, on November 22, 1963.

>>512623557
>bush era boomercore comic
they must REALLY want us to hate ukraine

>>512631874
> Russian aggression
What else did they expect after they literally crucified ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine? That Russia would remain passive? KEK
They now only get what they fucking deserve and I suspect that it's rather not gruesome enough.

>>512623379 (OP)
THD! THD! THD!

>>512623379 (OP)
Zelenksy needs to be taken out. He rejects peace at every opportunity.

why don't ukranians just kill zelensky?

>>512623379 (OP)
Okay commie now go back to worshipping your jew idol Lenin and the shabbas goy Stalin

>>512625818
If you mean the soviet union you are forgetting they were communists and all violent action against communists is always 100% justifed

>>512623379 (OP)
Orange retard can SUCK A DICK
EU UBER ALLES

>>512623557
Propaganda is so pathetic

>>512623379 (OP)
Doesn't he mean (((Blackrocks))) land

>>512633541
Because contrary to russian threads here, they don't want to surrender.

>>512623526
>we

>>512623557
i cant wait to see the apoplectic screaming when they are forced into treaty by us.

they then will be funneled into the next Current Thing™ outrage to put bumper stickers on the EVs about, and completely forget about Ukraine.

these people aren't really "people," they have no agency. you watch. screenie this poast.

>>512628186
>A couple hundred billion for a year or two and all of Russia will be for sale for pennies on the dollar. Blackrock would approve
>just a couple more years Russia is out of ammo
>just couple more billion and Ukraine offensive will succeed
>just a few more weeks and Russia will collapse
fuck back to your /k/oping containment board, troon.

>>512633918
Okay commie, now tell me about how based Stalin was for genociding white people

>>512633541
that comes afterward. i have a bet with some frens that 2025 is the year that he gets necked by his own people in kiev. made it 2 years back

let's see if i get to collect

Why does this jew believe he has the right to dictate anything when it is the US who funds his war?

>we WONT give up any land
>you can have all our men tho lol

>>512623379 (OP)
They already lost the land and the war.
How much more obvious can this depopulation operation be?

>>512633805
>source: my prolapsed asshole

>>512634318
i just want more dead communists.

>>512623526
Its not your land tranny, youre the occupier

>>512633968
>3pbtid
>talks about the soviet union and its leaders totally out of context
take your meds please

>>512623379 (OP)
No surprise, given how Shitkek initially and continuously mislead Trump, EU and Ukraine on what he negotiated about back in Moscow. What a fucking idiot.

>>512634318
I have some bad news for you.
The main opponents to Zelensky are also oppose to surrendering.
Russia will have to keep sending meat waves for years to come.

>>512631096

but enough about Bush, let's focus back on the Ukraine war

>>512634559
Communism is jewish

>>512631040
It's russia who refuses to surrender for their own fucking good.

>>512635416
good that means more dead commies, 70% of russia think Lenin or Stalin were the greatest world leaders of modern history so that means 70% of russia must die

>>512634752
>men in ukraine carry around grenades to meet the recruiter with
>everyone is opposed to surrendering
It all makes sense now. They just want to skip the draft process and get to the being blown to bits part.
Thanks for the revelation. Lmfao.

>>512623379 (OP)
>bump limit reached
Zalupas sure are uppity today

>>512623379 (OP)
>>512623526
>>512623557
Niggers

>>512627700
You post like a child.

>>512635630
I did not say that everyone is happy to be drafted.
I said that the current situation in Ukraine makes the wet dreams that they will surrender if Zelensky is gone just that - wet dreams.

>>512625818
>countries wanting to join NATO out of their free will because of fear of Russian expansion is a provocation

>>512623582
Zelensky is Jewish.
Putin is crypto.
Trump is crypto.
Everyone around them are crypto or real.
We know, everyone knows. You just haven't been to pol a decade or more. This narrative is over.

>>512623379 (OP)
>what you fought for for 3.5 years
>meltdown
nice framing you nigger shill. only browns and kikes shill for russia, along with their useful idiot redneck tards. most of these have come back reality though, now that Trump is pro-Ukraine.

>>512636869
You know who is not jewish? 99.9% of ukrainians.
these are the people ziggers, kikes, jeets and half of /pol/ (down from 90%) want exterminated

>>512625057
COWABUNGA!
>>512623930
also; do it !

>>512635416
they are not in the position to surrender
ukraine on the other hand is a junkie hooked on eu and usa lifeline
morally the eu betrayed russia, the usa showed their real face again totalitarian superpower on world domination conquest
god is on the side of the russians

>>512623379 (OP)
>>512623379 (OP)
>>512623379 (OP)
Total idiot move i hope that retard understands hes dealing with war blood and thousands of years of the same story. He just doesn't get it does he?

A giant mistake not budging and inch watch what happens when no more peace talks or deals are offered just increasing beatings