Thread 512683648

Why they dont shot down drones like shooting ducks or disks? Every squad should have a shotgunner for drones they should be easy as fuck to shot down

>>512683648 (OP)
And those retards shoot them with rifles

Many reasons

They travel too fast to shoot down reliably

>>512684244
Birds are pretty fast. It can be done with a shotgun loaded with birdshot but they have to be quite low and you need to be skilled which if you have never actually been been bird hunting before, you aren't.

>>512683648 (OP)
i´ve seen dozens of shotgun videos in ukraine on both sides.
some effective, most of the time not so effective.
you get buckfever

>>512683648 (OP)
there are not enough shotguns available
also you have detection problems
multiple drones mix their sounds

poolish momet
dont you think they havent tried that already and they need a braindead polska to tell them.

>>512683648 (OP)
In the overwhelming majority of cases, the soldiers either don't notice the drone at all, or they notice it far too late. A shotgun is also useless for everything but shooting at drones. It is stopped by body armor and the low rate of fire and sparse ammunition makes it useless for suppression fire, which is like 90% of infantry combat. With a dedicated shotgunner, the squad would be effectively down by one soldier, who then would still fail to neutralize most drones.

>>512684697
Ive mentioned this before but people around me bird hunt while ripping down trails on 4wheelers, with a working hand it is impossible to miss with bird shot

>>512684697
Drones are faster, and you can shoot the drone, but most shots recorded on the battlefield seem to be shot done by excellent marksman it’s not something that can generalized as a secured way of defending against drones.
>>512683686
Russians have developed AK rounds with shotgun shot inside.

>>512685314
Not everyone got that skill. Especially kidnapped city-tards from the streets that end up on the front lines.

me and the boys on teh frontline

>>512685514
>>512685563
Isn't that what training is supposed to be for?

>>512685916
no training is just buck breaking

>>512683648 (OP)
Drones usually aren't seen by enemy soldiers before it's too late. Sure some birdshot would absolutely down a drone especially with the kind of oversized shotguns they have, but since the shotgun defence is still relying on regular eyes and ears, electronic warfare is a more reliable method.

>>512685916
2-3 weeks training is not enough especially for unmotivated city fags that never handled a gun before.

>>512683648 (OP)
Why don't they do [thing] to stop drones?

Because they're cannon fodder and it doesn't matter. They're dragged out of highschools and prisons to go die for bankers. It might be the entire point that they die, they're clearing the area for something else.

With enough budget and/or training, drones can become disabled in many ways. Whether it's shooting them down skillfully with birdshot, or Palmer Luckey's Anvil or that other thing that just makes every drone in the area drop like a dead fly.

Notice how most (if not all) "drone kills" are men who are already down and defeated. Possibly POWs or AWOL... men without backup, without strength left and without ammo.

>>512683648 (OP)
drones are too fast for that. they can go 200 km/h. The technology to make laser weapons that can track flying objects and burn them already exists, but its not being developed for military use for some reason.

>>512688475
It takes a decade to mass produce lasers that take down drones, they have a limited number and limited production.

>>512683648 (OP)
They do, but people want to sensationalise the impact of drones so they can sell more. Essentially drones are strategically and tactically worthless, the videos you see are the 1 or 2% that actually succeed, you don;t see the 98% that fail , get jammed, get shot down, battery goes flay, crash etc.

>>512689434
In the $100 to $500 practice range, a 1% success rate is cheaper than a profesional NATo training soldier, and maybe also cheaper than a profesional Russian Infantryman.

And that is only if they target a regular as dude and don't do something a lot more useful like artillery spotting, directing assaults, blowing up logistics trucks or pulling the airport surprise strafing.

Skill issue, why would I invest time and money into a fodder meatwave volunteer?

>>512687287
Is he going to be okay? That drone operator was cruel going for the ass shot.

>>512683648 (OP)
>Active measures
You don't even need that. Drones can be stopped with simple passive measures. A simple signal jammer hard-counters drones as an example.

>>512690723
But how will soldiers on the go post to their VK and insta accounts with that? >:(

>>512689434
You only see videos of successful drone hits because the videos of unsuccessful drones are never released.

>>512690723
kek, guy wearing that is going to get a brain tumor