the ABSOLUTE state of the democrat party

OH NONONONONONO

>>512734287
that's before redistricting

>>512734178 (OP)
>JD Vance president
nothing against the guy
but that would be funny
and will never happen

>>512734178 (OP)
lol

>>512734373
Vance is the clear frontrunner to be the GOP nominee. The only way he's not is if he doesn't want to run honestly. And I'd bet Vance would win against any of the dems right now.

>>512734178 (OP)
Damn Newsom sucks fat chode

>>512734422
that doesn't even make sense if their own favorite is in the GOP lmfao

>>512734366
>Doesn't understand pricing in known variables
I hope your parents still handle your money for you

>>512734529
It hasn't been priced in, this is the past week.

>>512734497
I don't think you understand how these odds work. Obviously Vance is the favourite individual candidate to become president, because Vice-presidents are always primary candidates to become party nominees (and any nominee has close to 50/50 of being elected), whereas the democrat nominee could be a whole bunch of people, with a number of slight favourites but no obvious favourite

>>512734597
Everyone knows that Texas Democrats are going to cave and Abbott and the Texas Republicans are going to do exactly what Trump demanded of them.
Even with the shift in those five seats, that 1.7 percent represents the totality of how much betters think it has a possibility to affect the outcome of the majority.
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>512734804
Vance went up by 1.1% this week too. It clear hasn't impacted the odds at all.
>>512734729
the top 5 dems don't even add up to Vance. "Other" is 33% because of the mass amount of random people in the odds they didn't bother listing.

>>512734178 (OP)
Yeah, it looks bad. Not sure who the dems could nominate these days. It'd have to be a masculine looking man, with a "tough" demeanor. I think the party is in a situation similar to the 1990's where they had to nominate someone who was a "conservative passing" liberal (i.e. Bill Clinton). Maybe Andy Beshear?

I really don't want to nominate another woman, but I do think Whitmer would be a good candidate. Harris was fine, but she had 2 big issues. 1.) She had to run on someone else's record (Biden). 2.) She was only given about 3 months to campaign.

>>512734373
they said the same thing about Trump, unfortunately.

>>512734966
And now you're comparing statistical noise for an election three years out, where no one from either party has declared their intention to run, to an election happening in a year where 90 percent of the seats are already effectively decided.
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>512734966
>Other is 33% because of the mass amount of random people in the odds they didn't bother listing.
Exactly, because the democrat nominee is much likely to be an unexpected wildcard than the republican nominee

>>512735148
And yet you're mad LOL. the only chance you faggots have is Bashear or someone unknown. your current bench is terrible.
>>512735168
>is much likely to be an unexpected wildcard than the republican nominee
probably. although if they're actually trying it'll be a straight white christian guy not from california or new york.

>>512734366
>Rapeublicunts have to rig elections in order to win
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN LIST

>>512735240
>liberals are spamming about epstein
maybe if you didn't cry drumpf so many times people would actually believe in and take seriously your dumb spam

>>512735235
>Giving up discussing the House election entirely to sperg about complete hypothetical three years away
I accept your concession

>>512735423
I definitely don't have a popular opinion, but congress has been so absolutely lazy and ineffective outside of the one fucking bill that losing the house doesn't bother me. I think they'll keep it anyway, but they're been so irrelevant I really don't care if some of them lose seats because they probably deserve to.

Hasn't everyone figured out these sites are fucking bullshit?

>>512734178 (OP)
>American Psycho
>leftist woman
>40yo twink
>obvious jew
Yeah, that's pretty bad. Newsom could imaginably win against any of the Repubs by the sheer virtue of being male, but the Dems' candidate vacuum, especially with Trump being done, makes me think that new candidates are gonna jump into the race as Dems.

>>512735688
of course they are but it's fun to post and watching liberals try to defend their top 3 possible candidates are a limousine liberal from new york, a neoliberal ghoul from california, and some gay dude

>>512735588
>Whatever I don't even care
Kek.
Have a good one champ

>>512735827
Legitimately 99% of what has been done so far has been Trump executively. And the 1% congress did they barely did. I thought congress would codify most of what Trump has done but they haven't.

its funny how liberal /pol/ has become

just pointing out how DIRE the left is right now gets all this rage lol

>>512734178 (OP)
I just wish we would not have to resort to Dem or Rep for elections. No one likes the Democratic party, no one likes Republican RINOs as a party, and MAGA is just Donald Trump and that's it. We need like 4 more parties just so there's something worth voting for.

>>512735951
Someone forgot to tell all the shills that came in 2024 that they're here forever. They still think they're fighting orange man on the dark web or whatever.

>>512734373
He will likely be the Republican nominee. He has a very solid chance at the presidency barring any /happenings/. He is good at talking shit, but not in Trump's ad hominem style. He is right to the point and doesn't talk in circles. This is why leftist Europeans immediately started spamming the swollen, purple vance edits after he straight up told european politicians to stop being petty tyrants policing speech and sucking immigrant dick. The purple vance edits also demonstrate something important: Leftist narratives are weak and flaccid. There is no intellectual depth to current leftists narratives. As such, there was no pun, no double entendre, no deeper substance to the vance edit spam. I doubt anyone will actually respond to this post in good faith. I don't know why I even bother on this board.

>>512736031
I love Trump but the guy's style gets him into SO much unnecessary trouble because he's not articulate. Vance can articulate what he's thinking so well all the gotcha questions and slip ups Trump gets won't be a factor.
Trump is authentically a based retard though.

>>512734178 (OP)
Why don't they just put a competent straight white man forward if they want to win?

>>512735921
>Legitimately 99% of what has been done so far has been Trump executively
Unfortunately, that means if a Democrat does win in 2028 they can undo all of it the first day they're in office.
That's the problem with governance by executive fiat, and why it's shocking that a president with as much sway over his party as Trump has been totally ineffective at bringing Congress to heel to get their agenda passed through legislation.

>>512736427
The democrat party has to make a decision. To do what you said, they need to cut off the far left and move to the center. Or, they move to the far left even more and lose the center.
>>512736505
They don't have the votes in the senate. No democrat would vote with the republicans for anything. for a lot of it they'd need 60 votes, that's why they used reconciliation so heavily.

>>512734729
>because Vice-presidents are always primary candidates to become party nominees
Only 19 vice presidents (out of 49) have run for president.

>>512734178 (OP)
Fetterman is the Dems only hope. It sounds retarded but it's 100% true. He has had enough of the nonsense the woke Dems push and says it's hurting the party (it is), he actually crosses the aisle on certain things, plus he's tall and it there is no way people are voting for a manlet vs vance who is quite tall iirc.

>>512736726
I was making an exaggeration, the main point was that if a vice president does run they are a likely nominee

>>512736726
I meant in regards to vice presidents that do choose to run

I love seeing Dems suffer, but 2028 is an eternity away in political time. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

>>512735240
>commie now crying about rigged elections
bwahhahahahahaaaa

>>512735240
Oh, please. Look at shit like pic. related. California Republicans usually get around 40% of the statewide vote, but only have nine of its fifty-two House seats (about 17%). Spare me.

>>512737366
>texas democrats flee to protest gerrymandering
>this is where they went

>>512734373
JD Vance is the clear heir-apparent
No real baggage, military career, married with kids, getting to piggy-back off Trumps 2nd term
No fucking shit he's going to run with it in 2028
Unless Trump absolutely shits the bed, the Dems will have a massive uphill battle. Their big issue is they keep trying to keep the far-left on their side while simultaneously trying to get the middle-voters. This shit won't work if you pick a Newson or AOC, their names are SYNOMOUS with far-left policies the country hates (there's a reason most states hate Cali-expats)
tldr: Unless the DNC can find a A++ dark horse or Trump fucks up massively, JD Vance is the 2028 prez

>>512736751
how dumb are you to think a jew can reasonably win

>>512736031
>>512737516
Vance is likely to get Harrisd unless the economy looks drastically different election time. Couple that with the "trump fatigue" that happened in 2020 and its a lot closer than people here would ever admit.
>>512736751
kek delusional as shapiro/buttigay faggots
Ds are now the anti-Israel party, fetterman/schumar types are unironically toast.

>>512737811
That's the thing, Vance has the same policies as Trump but without all the "trumpisms". Vance's presidency would be comfy, not chaotic.

>>512734729
>Odds

>>512737871
right but my point is unless the economy actually looks a lot better nearer to 28, hes' stuck defending the status quo at a time when people are gonna be pissed.

>>512737516
All I know it's Trump we're talking about. The number of people he talked up and then called traitors is a mile-long. There's a real chance Vance could tell him 'no' on some retarded thing he wants to do and become the next Mike Pence overnight.

TRUMP WINS!

>>512737573
He has brain damage which has short circuited his Talmudic programming on many occasions. Better him than Newsom who is a crypto.

>>512737977
the faggots at the fed need to lower interests rates so people can afford a mortgage, and gas prices will plummet once summer is over. other than that things are comfy for me.

>>512737977
>right but my point is unless the economy actually looks a lot better nearer to 28
In your opinion how is the economy worse than Biden's tenure?

>>512734178 (OP)
None of the top 4 of the dems has a prayer even if the economy falls off a fucking cliff and we're in WWIII so they had better find someone fucking soon. Killary unironically mogs all the current candidates.

Dem leadership should be BEGGING Mark Cubes and offering him 10,000,000 human sacrifices to get him to run.

Ah, so the next election will star Hillbilly vs American Psycho. Who will fuentes side with?

>>512738681
>who will the zoomer richard spencer side with
probably the democrat one like he did last time

>there will be an American president called JD in your lifetime
STARTED AT THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE WHAT WHAT

>>512735240
>Republicans are redistricting to their advantage like democrats have done for decades
Fixed for you

Honestly, I want to vote Dem, but they refuse to purge the race radicals and socially far left retards from their party, so that's not going to happen.
I prefer left-leaning economics, but if they're bundled with all the other retarded shit then I'm just not going to vote.
If they're unwilling to shift, then it just confirms that they're just controlled opposition and there's no point in voting anyways.

>>512738737
>the absolute state of the democrat party

what do you mean? that they're the party of libleftards or something? i've only heard of trump supporting republicans like taylor swift or lindsey graham

>>512737516
Sad that elections are about how a candidate sounds on paper. Well it's all theater anyways.

>>512738681
Well he hates Vance

>>512738857
Shouldn't have occupied wall street.

That was the turning point in 2011. The party was poison pilled with pointless "feel good" causes and identity politics.

If the Democrats start pushing anti-Israel candidates and make the election about "reclaiming America from Israel" they'd win. But they won't.

>>512738857
Bernie and AOC are prime examples of controlled intra-party opposition. They never do a single thing but keep the far left uppity like they're doing something.

>>512734178 (OP)
>Dems run three female presidents and lose them all
>Win the one time between when they run a male candidate
I think it would be more funny if Republicans lose in general but if Dems run AOC and lose it would be even funnier. Bonus points if Buttigieg somehow beats Vance in 2032 to further confirm women are the problem.

>>512739441
the funniest thing about the 2020 election has buttgeg trying to answer the question of 'why don't blacks like you'?

>>512739441
Bootyjudge is never going to win. No one is electing a bottom to the white house.

>>512735688
With all those wild odds? lol. But president, senate,and house 2026 are already decided.

>>512739753

>>512735774
I calls it uniparty shrug. While all you have is vacation Vance. That’s how worthless presidents had become -up for sale to whoever bribes them the most.

>>512736153
You are a simp and is irrelevant to the rest of us.

>>512740039
yea well I think you STINK

>>512739874
kek

>>512737515
Population rules. Must be a specific number of population.

>>512737515
12 fits low population southern Illinois.

>>512739874
Well when you put it that way.. yeesh.

>>512740069
Yawn. You are an eternal loser. Only one poll had trump +1 approval and you are too much women to see that hahahaha.

>>512740355
whatever Trump's approval is, divide it in half and you get the democrat approval

>>512735126
>Harris was fine
You don't actually believe this. Nobody actually believes this.

>>512739228
which candidate could even do something like that? nobody in the field it would have to be an outsider

>>512740672
they'd have to be anti-israel and MAGA. deportations, cut welfare from illegals/nons, more policy to make the US a manufacturer, build refineries, more investment in nuclear, more policies working towards getting rid of income tax, etc etc.

>>512740867
honestly, you don't really hear Vance go on and on about le greatest ally shit much. even with Palestine he focuses more on the humanitarian aid and ceasefire.

>>512740867
i think a anti isreal candidate would be enough, i mean rerouting US foreign policy to where they are a enemy state not even neutral

>>512738091
Fed lowering won't move the needle on housing much at current elevated levels, particularly when the jobs that let people afford housing are in the shitter.
My guess is Trump starts juicing the economy with stimmies either just before 26 or before 28 election.

>>512738246
>jobs are gone
>inflation while lower is still ongoing
>housing still out of control
I don't think its necessarily "worse", but when your party gets elected with a mandate because the economy is shit, its gonna be harder to win as the current VP if the economy is not objectively better.

>>512734178 (OP)
its all fake and fucking gay
whoever the donors feels is the easiest, thats who you'll get, and they'll just make up the stats to justify it later.

>>512740867
So the dems should become republicans if they want to win, makes sense considering their party has been mortally wounded.

>>512741106
interest rates lowered would absolutely help people buy houses. mortgage rates are way too high despite housing prices coming down somewhat.

>>512741269
>interest rates lowered would absolutely help people buy houses.
maybe if they slashed the fuck out of rates, sure. But no fed is doing much beyond a few 25-50bp per quarter.
Actual mass deportations and gutting visa programs would help more, but so far Trumps focus is kabuki theater photo ops and "owning da libs" with fake enforcement.

>>512741106
>but when your party gets elected with a mandate because the economy is shit
Those are all fair points and I don't disagree. But it's been 7 months since inauguration. There's still 3 years to improve things. I think there is going to be some short term (next year or so) pain and volatility but I'd be surprised if things aren't better in year 3. Especially if the ICE ramp up and immigration measures actually take place.

The Fed cutting interest rates is a bit of a wildcard and could send the markets into a huge bull run but I worry about inflation then.

>>512737986
This is a very important point people like to forget. Cock sucker needs to actually push Johnson into codifying all these executive orders.

>>512741520
They have to start somewhere ffs. And if your liberal leaders weren't subverted the deportations efforts they'd be going faster. I'm content with the pace. The message has been sent and ICE is just getting their increased funding.

>>512734178 (OP)
>MASSIE/AOC 2028

hillary clinton 3rd run incoming

>>512734178 (OP)
>fag
>jew spic woman
>fag
>jew
Grim lineup

>>512737515
Those borders look like trump's head

>>512741602
>There's still 3 years to improve things
true, though losing the house in 26 would slow things down.
>>512741751
>And if your liberal leaders weren't subverted the deportations efforts they'd be going faster
kek muh librul boogieman
>I'm content with the pace.
you don't know the pace. No one does because they conveniently stopped publishing numbers.
How about those farmers and hotel workers?

>>512734178 (OP)
Democrats are gonna turn zognald into a lame duck in 2026 and take the presidency in 2028. Whites will continue to go extinct and the jews will still run everything through ZOG.

>>512734287
>According to CNN who totally isn’t lying

>>512734373
seek help Chuddy-Man

>>512740448
Just 4 points higher for GOP. Easy arguments ha.

>>512734366
So...the GOP needs to cheat to win?

>>512735126
3.) she’s an unbearable cackling low IQ whore. To be fair, women will probably come out in droves to vote for Stretchin’ Gretchen too, though.

>>512734373
Might happen if Trump keels over in the next 3.5 years.

>>512741060
>i think
MAGA has all the winning issues. israel is the last one left. this is where american politics stands, now.

>>512736031
Nah. Ole pumpkin head doesn’t stand a chance. You really think the poop fuckin, couch fuckin, make up wearing summabitch has a chance against pic rel? Good fucking luck

>>512743481
No, the Supreme court is set to strike down giving free seats based on racism.
So the opposite, people have lived over a generation under rigged rules.

>>512739874
one of the all-time best tweets

>>512734178 (OP)
The fact CNN is now shilling for Vance as president in 2028 is all the more proof that the plan all along was to use Trump to get Vance, Alex Karp and Peter Thiel into office.

>>512743795
i'm glad you're consneeding early. it will make the next 10+ years easier for (You).

>>512734366

>>512743795
That mofo is creepy AF. Same teeth as Epstein

>>512734178 (OP)
Problem is Vance has absolutely 0 of the charm that Trump has (had). Plus, there's not a single candidate on that list that represents the interests of White men.

>>512743890
>WLGK
>stuck in his basement doing nothing for the rest of his life

>>512743905
See >>512743697
Rubio does. He’s going to be the nominee and he’s going to win

>>512743949
What does that have to do about him being creepy? He’s a busy creep… is he even married with kids?

>>512743713
Came here to say this
Democrats will be a minority in the house for 40 years

>>512734373
All the shills reacting to this can't understand. Vance has the personality of a wet paper bag and turns off the majority of Americans.

No one voted for Vance just like no one voted for Pence. They voted for Trump. Vance is not like Trump. It's not just about views it's about being memorable and having the heart of America.

Also, the world is much more polarized. I imagine from here on out every four years the party in charge will trade presidency. You will never see a party rule for two terms ever again.

>>512734178 (OP)
>dems will run another California candidate who the midwest and south will not vote for
no wayyyyy

>>512744071
yes
>>512744179
vance has made two appearances over the weekend that voters have since watched and cemented their support for Vance in 2028. he is well spoken and a strict follower of the MAGA agenda, which is all MAGA cares about- continuing the work.

>>512744179
You know nothing about project 2025… we will never have a democrat hold federal office ever again. Do you really think all the mass layoffs and firings were about saving money? Lmao.
>t P2025 member

https://www.project2025.observer/en
46% and we’re not even done with the first year

>>512744285
Pumpkin head the poop fucker ain’t doing shit. He’s a nobody who is already being passed over. They can try and run him but he will lose in the primaries

>>512744285
Yawn. He's not interesting. He's not memorable. He won't win.

I can't even remember what his voice. He's not even remotely striking of a human.

Memes control reality. Biden was a meme candidate (establishment or not, a senile dnc zombie is a meme). Trump is a meme. Vance's meme is counter to who he is, aka he's not a meme aka he will lose.

>>512744472
denial is the first stage of grief. you have a long way to go, unfortunately.

>>512744285
>he is well spoken and a strict follower of the MAGA agenda,
I lol'd.

MIGA!

>>512744520
>>512744552
MAGA has won 2026, 2028, and 2032. there is nothing you can do to stop it. hopefully with time you will grow to accept it as that is all you can do at this point.

>>512744534
I look forward to you eating shit when Rubio gets the nomination. Idk if you know this but poos are persona non grata right now and pumpkin head goes to bed with one every single night. He even named his first born son after a demonic poop god. Look it up

>>512744618
MAGA will vote for whoever Trump endorses, and Trump has endorsed Vance, so that's who will win. accept it and move on.

>>512734178 (OP)

>>512744686
We have almost 4 years to go. Good fucking luck poop lover

>>512744374
Okay. I am just saying, he's not memorable hence he won't win.

Gaetz has better chances and he'll never get the nomination. At least there's a meme there.

>>512744606
MAGA is simply Trump. Without Trump there is no MAGA.

>>512744737
yup, 4 more years of winning.

>>512734178 (OP)
A boomer cuck, a soon to balloon Abuela, a faggot named buttplug, a sòy kike.
And the GOP side is not much better, Vance will wipe the floor with the aforementioned because he has a triple digit IQ.
I wish the Chinese weren't giga pussies so they could nuke us.

>>512744787
>MAGA is simply Trump. Without Trump there is no MAGA.
wrong. dems are nuked unless they adopt Trump's policies. MAGA has captured all the winning issues, the last one left is israel.

>>512744790
Yes. And the Secretary of State has a lot more to do with it than a pumpkin headed poop lover who constantly goes on vacation with his little shits. Get real. All the smart money is on Rubio

>>512744787
MAGA was always about putting America First and the American people first, I don't think Trump is doing that and the Peter Thiel product Vance who named his shitskin kid after Vivek Ramaswamy (kek) sure as hell isn't.

Is him being shilled by CNN right now not enough to see that?

>>512744903
>>512744990
you can try and splinter, wedge, and nitpick all you want. MAGA has never been stronger. Trump has had 200 consecutive days of wins. Trump endorsed Vance, and he's the next POTUS.

>>512744990

>>512745085
This is a poo bot

>>512745131
cope. i voted for Trump, who won 3 times. 2020 was stolen. biden was never POTUS and The Committee used the autopen to run this country into the ground for 4 years. Vance is the next POTUS. he will serve two terms, consecutive.

>>512745209
I voted for Trump 6 times and Rubio will
Be the nominee. COPE
>America will never elect a poo loving demon worshipper

>>512745209
Why do you want the first lady to be a poo?

>>512734373
Pete Bootyjudge for president!

>>512734366
>GOP Redistricting to make a fair election finally.

>>512744374
Damn nice stock!

>>512734178 (OP)
shame that jim webb's too old to run these days

>>512745890
Pete ButtPlug!

Forgot about him! KEK!

>>512734178 (OP)
remember when newsom had tanks on the beach in los angeles during covid

>>512745375
Rubio won’t get the nomination. He has a car salesman vibe

>>512747039
He used to for sure. But he’s def changed. He’s sure as hell a sight better than pumpkin head poo lover
>t. I’ve met Marco a few times he’s actually a pretty chill dude even if he is a manlet.

>>512747180
Voting doesn’t matter. Palantir will roll with Vance and that’s that. I don’t like Vance but if you don’t understand how all this works by now I don’t know what to tell you.