Thread 512833554

>>512833554 (OP)
Aren’t civil unions the same as marriage legally?

Homos btfo. Now repeal the 19th

>>512833619

Marriage includes all state and federal level benefits. Tax filing status, Social Security benefits, military spousal benefits, et cetera.

Civil Unions only grant rights within states that recognize it and only at the state level. Federal law does not acknowledge civil unions as the same thing as marriages and therefore grant no benefits to them.

Once again, the dumbass libtards have only themselves to blame. They overplayed their hand and lost. Get fucked, bitches. Maybe you’ll finally learn how to behave like civilized people now that your pet gays are getting fucked.

>>512833703
everything done after andy jackson needs to be repealed, regardless of any consequences

>>512833703
Thomas is repealing interracial marriage next because he hates his wife.

The gay marriage stats were making heterosexuals look bad LOL it's not the gays fault that women and men bitch and complain about how much they hate each other all day

>>512833554 (OP)
It’s things like this that I wish Kamala would’ve won.

>>512834026
Kek

>>512833554 (OP)
Remember that guy who burned tire on a rainbow painted road and got fucking arrested for it during the Biden era?

The government really shouldn't be involved with marriage at all. They can recognise de facto marriages or civil unions or whatever, but marriage is inherently personal and often religious.

Gay marriage can be both disallowed and openly practiced at the same time, because we don't all need the same definition of marriage.

Hope they make sodomy illegal again. So we can round up not just the faggots, but all the whores who do it as well.

>>512834453
Marriage IS the government. Probably the first economy, too. Females are a commodity and what better way to control your resource than to publicy claim it as yours? A man with tons of wives is rich as fuck (Mormons, Kings, etc) this is why men arrest men who marry multiple women because damn, that's someone else's wife/$$$

>>512833554 (OP)
Tappity tap-tap, niggers

>>512834548
Isn't sodomy still illegal?

>>512833554 (OP)
Really rooting for this lost cause. We could have 9 Hitlers on the Supreme Court and they would vote to uphold homosexual deviance and blasphemy.

>>512833703
HELLO BASED DEPARTMENT

MAKE W*MEN ILLEGAL AGAIN

>>512833554 (OP)
a bunch of states made them legal before obergefell and it'll still be legal there if overturned

>>512833816
This.
Faggots want their tax breaks when they can't produce children. A burden on a system, that's why it should be ruled unconstitutional & illegal. It's straight up parasitism.

>>512834781
In Texas

>>512833619
Fags should not be allowed to play "Muh we are population control" while reeping the benefits that straight couples do. They chose a lifestyle that embraces childlessness & anticreation. Therefore they don't deserve the tax breaks that straight couples deserve.

>>512834026

That would be hilarious

>>512834161
You lost faggot

>>512835342
Making it illegal now is just going to make the group with all the money (kids come with hetero marriages and cost bank) move to another state and the opposition is going to lose out on tons due to the lack of marriage economy.

Single mothers (who fuck the most) will move out as well so it will just go back to men fucking men for free in private and heterosexual couples killing each other at higher rates which leads to more money spent in courts, on murder investigation, etc. Criminal justice is going to make a lot of money though on the increase in domestic violence

>>512834781
They legalized it during W Bush era.

>>512835558
Ok then move to Texas. You don't like Texas?

>>512835683
>muh marriage economy
Get fucked parasitic faggot. Only straights produce children. Therefore you don't deserve the tax breaks. Whole point of marriages is to produce children, which faggots are incapable of doing.

>>512835611
Who cares; the amount of married couples filing jointly is decreasing anyway. Not to mention the $$$ spent on police having to break up spats between the straights because they are constantly either killing their kids or poisoning each other

>>512835458
My little incel anon, let me hold your hand while I explain this to you...
straggots with no kids get the same tax benefits

>>512835806
So you are ok with benefits for single mothers?

>>512833554 (OP)
Clarence Thomas would overturn the 13th amendment if asked. Absolutely based yes-man negro.

>>512833554 (OP)
next take down lillith energy

>>512833554 (OP)
Save us Clarence Thomas!

>>512833554 (OP)
im thinking based

never have two of the same sexes fucked and reproduced

>>512835898
No. You chose to be fags & not have kids. Therefore you don't deserve to reep of straight folks. Get fucked rainbow parasite. I hope they throw you degens in the mental wards next.

>>512835458
>Faggots want their tax breaks when they can't produce children
If that's the goal make the tax incentives for having kids instead of getting married.

>>512835806
But you don't need to be married to have children

>>512833554 (OP)
This doesn't affect me cause I am polyamorous lol.

>>512836089
parthenogenesis exists

>>512836138
Bastard children are cursed.

>>512833554 (OP)
Based. No one likes fags. Never have. Never will.
https://youtube.com/shorts/MS3_skDqvfQ

>>512835949
Shows how little you understand taxes.
Straights with no kids pay as much tax as fags with no kids. Fags shouldn't be allowed around children cause they rape kids

>>512836092
How are the kids of any value dead/damaged because men and women can't get their shit together and the dad is either abandoning the kids or the mom is lusting after her sons? Also, I'm heterosexual, dumbass. Straights are birthing gay kids

>>512836216
These brith rates are terrible; I think we should start accepting the bastards as well to keep the numbers up

>>512834781
Why would you want Sodomy to be illegal?

There is nothing better than fucking a woman in the ass. I once was fucking a girls butt with my huge dick and i felt a little bit of shit in there. i didnt care and just kept pounding away, i literally pushed her shit in, made me feel like such a man

Crazy how you dumb niggers are arguing for or against tax breaks while money is printed out of thin air. You're paying taxes with fiat currency to the government that prints money out of nothing. Dumb niggers. Screen cap this.

>>512836139
Reject Satan, have faith in the Father.

>>512836530
Do you think we don't know this?

>>512836528
I asked the guy asking the question if sodomy was still illegal. If you want your ass blown out on your death bed, that's your business, sir.

>>512836530
>tax policy doesn't matter because fiat is shit
OK, I'll tax you 100% and it won't matter.

>>512836347
reading skills of a toddler lmao

>>512836530
Who cares I WANT A WIFE

>>512836603
If you're arguing about tax breaks then yeah, I'd say you're missing the point entirely. State recognized gay marriage has no other purpose other than to humiliate a nation and mock the Christian sacrament of marriage.

>>512836417
2 men can't produce a child. 2 women can't produce a child. Technically it's impossible for 2 people of the same gender to have sex. Real sex is vaginal sex involving penis & vagina. Anything else is just foreplay & masturbation. No real sex means no children are being produced. Whole point of marriage is not have kids, not masturbate.

Sorry faggot, no tax breaks for (you).

>>512836642
You have COVID quarantine camps and no guns in your country. You'll be taxed 100% unironically.

>>512836730
Marriage existed before Christianity

>>512833554 (OP)
I went to a gay bar last night.

>>512836776
You don't have to have sex to have children. IVF exists

>>512836776
*is to have kids

>>512835949
>straggots
why hide your talmudic influence if you're just going to use made up bullshit like this?

>>512836795
>say stupid shit
>get called out
>say more stupid shit
They want to disarm us but it isn't working.
https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/australias-gun-ownership-scorecard-a-growing-problem-in-need-of-reform/

>>512833554 (OP)
they can't take it back
who'd process all the paperwork,
nullifying all the established marriages?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4O5ztz92o

>>512836875
>IVF exist
I hope that gets banned too

>>512835951
No, fuck those niggers.

L G B T = LET GOD BURN THEM

>>512836935
I agree but it's really popular right now with the party in control so I doubt it will

They knew it was coming because they never made it a proper law, just like roe v wade. They build their house on sand and now they're shocked because it fell over.

>>512836956
I wasn't asking you

>>512836972
"Let's go burn them" sounds better.

>>512836530
I don't want faggotry normalized because it is degenerate and harmful to society. Stay in the fucking closet you freak.

>>512833703
>neocon radical feminists
>repeal the 19th
ahahahahaahahha you guys are so fucking out of touch it's hilarious
keep waiting retard

>>512836994
I don't care about what's popular. I care about kids not getting raped by fags

>>512837013
That and the gays sided with trans (who are mostly heterosexual) I think it was a desperate move to get straight people to like them but all it did was make everyone hate the entire gay community. I want to believe the gays will reverse course and drop trans but I think they are still in denial that straights in wigs lost them their elevated social status

>>512835898
>source: my gaping AIDS monkeypox ass
Lmfao sure fag

>>512837095
At least Trump isn't gay then.

Gay monogamy was always a joke. Gay polygamy would be natural setup for homosexual relationships. Not that that needs any legal official recognition though.

>>512837095
Straight people use IVF more than the gays but straight people hate other straight people so I'm not suprised at your opinion

>>512837179
>increase in domestic violence
>pregnant women's highest risk is homicide
>18 million usa children without fathers in the home
>birth rate plummeting globally

Straight people don't get along. That simple. And I'm not a fag, fag.

>>512835458
You DO realize that it's entirely possible for a man and woman to get married and... not have kids, right? It happens all the time and is increasingly common.

>>512833913
Loooool nope
They'll triple down instead, while saying they're fighting fascism or whatever bullshit

>>512837489
These are incels; they've never talked to a woman and don't know this is possible

>>512836935
Give me one reason why IVF is bad that doesn't involve the (((Bible)))

>>512837559
He just did; he doesn't want fags raping kids

>>512837631
My bad, I didn't realize that natural conception provides children with an anti-faggot forcefield that keeps them from being raped by fags.

>>512837684
True, fags have more access to children born from natural conception and I agree, but the guy did say he doesn't want children being raped by fags so technically, banning IVF would reduce that occurrence. So you're both right.

>>512837489
>Marrying a woman when there are no kids involved
>increasingly common
Feminist fantasy. Dudes aren't letting themselves get trapped like that no more.
Rich fuckers getting beards don't count.

You're exploiting desperate uneducated impoverished women for their wombs. Why don't you just keep them around and lay them and use them as a fleshlight while they're pregnant? Pay them for the womb and extra to be your cum dumpster? Your the kind of person that would find that morally acceptable.

>>512837559
See

Rubin Report is going to show his kike side real soon, he has been a subverter. It is high time we get rid of the subversive kikes that infected "right"wing places. Always hated that kike, they groom kids and pretend to be conservative to slither and subvert from within.

>>512837559
See**>>512838087

>>512837684
People like you think everything's a game.

>>512837940
What about if the husband doesn't want kids? Is he trapped then?

>>512837298
You too.

>>512834161
So glad she lost because the world doesn't have to see 4 years of her cackling like a retard and saying really stupid braindead shit and avoiding questions. Legitimately, could you actually imagine her talking to world leaders or for long conferences about what's going on? Answering excess Press questions like Donald Trump does?

Fuck everything else. Kamala was horrifying

>>512838214
You're a good person. You've never wronged anyone in your whole life.

>>512837920
What a good person you are.

>>512838277
I know. It's a hard life to live, but my conscience couldn't handle it otherwise

State sanctified marriage is a farce on its face. It's a cultural and religious institution that the state has only harmed through bad-faith interference.

>>512833913
>implying they learn
Anon, I…

>>512838348
Truly you've never done anything wrong. You're morally pure because you've decided you are. You are your own authority and you declare yourself a saint. Oops, can't downvote this, can you?

>>512835699
The supreme court did, but at the state level those laws are still on the books in multiple states. If the SC ever reverses Lawrence vs. Texas, it will be illegal again immediately in those areas.

~There is no social, evolutionary, or logical reason for the majority of normally functioning human beings to arbitrarily restructure their cultures and systems of scientific understanding solely for the benefit of a minority that does not inherently improve the gene pool~

Dont worship biological failure. Praise SOL.

>>512838260
More horrifying than a pedophile?? I'm starting to think pedos are the only ones that want to keep the birthrate up so you can keep having more victims

>>512838414
Aww. And they say 4chan isn't a nice place. Thanks for the complements

>>512834026
Hahaha. I'd die laughing if that happened.

>>512838474
Tell me IVF is morally acceptable.

>>512838087
You are describing surrogacy, not IVF. IVF is used for a lot of surrogate pregnancies, but that's hardly the only time its used. Most of the time it's used by couples because they have trouble conceiving children - the woman can still carry her own baby, it's just the "sperm meets egg" part that doesn't happen naturally (or does, but is much rarer than it normally should be). There are a lot of reasons why that might be the case; it can be a problem with the man, the woman, or both. IVF just skips the part of conception where the sperm has to find its way through the vagina to the egg cell - they take egg cells from the woman, select the healthiest sperm cells from the man, and put them in a petri dish together. They then put the fertilized embryos (they usually use more than one, because not every embryo is guaranteed to actually implant and grow, hence why IVF-induced pregnancies have a higher chance of twins/triplets/etc) back into the uterus where they implant and begin to develop normally.

>>512838511
I can't because I don't agree with it. See my post:
>>512836994
I don't believe it is morally acceptable

>>512838511
Tell me why it's not.

>>512833554 (OP)
Awh Man was really looking forward to voting for Pete

>>512833554 (OP)
Noooooo Pete Buttigieg save us please

>>512838705
>IVF is used for a lot of surrogate pregnancies
Again, just human cattle for you to compassionately exploit and abuse with a smile. You speak in reasonable terms while doing despicable things.

>>512838648
I'm not reading anything. Here's your updoot le good sir

>>512838705
There's been a lot of overly clever people twisting logic to assist evil. You're not special.

>>512839074
IVF is not ONLY used for surrogate pregnancies, retard. That is not even its most common use-case. Also, surrogacy can be, and is, done without using IVF, if the parents-to-be don't care that the child is genetically the surrogate's.
"IVF is evil because it's sometimes used for surrogacy" is like saying "guns are evil because they are sometimes used for murder"

>>512839240
You'll use anyone.

I will not bake the cake!

>>512833554 (OP)
>Beings asked to annul gay weddings automatically means it is done

>>512839290
Ah, I see, you can't actually give any reason why IVF is morally wrong, so you're resorting to the typical MIGA tactic of ignoring the discussion and just schizoposting.

>>512839344
Tell me surrogacy is morally acceptable. Clearly you are morality, enlighten us, oh pure one

>>512839344
Who cares?
Why are leafs so extremely gay and niggerlike?
I don't think I've ever seen a single leaf whose opinions were worth listening to

>>512839344
Who taught you how to talk? How did you feed yourself when you were a day old? What was your morality then?

>>512833554 (OP)
Good. I'll never say "his husband" or "her wife", it's like saying "my cat's college schedule" or "my toilet's MPH".

is throwing dildos gay?

>>512834781
>>512834548
>>512836528
>>512836632
It likely has to do with the “scent” of the female and perhaps some pheromones. You know how animals piss on their territory? Some animals shit on it. If we observe jeets and pakis, we see that they mark their teritory by shitting everywhere.

My theory is that male attraction to the anus has to do with “altering” the females scent, by using the penis. Did you know that penises contain the scent of the male, and the majority if the pheromones? That is one of the reasons women like rubbing penises on their faces. Ask any woman and she will tell you, she loves the scent of the penis. It is like catnip for women. That is also why they like sucking on penises.

The penis is also home to many scent inducing bacteria. The combination of phermones and these bacteria, which differ from male to male, creates a unique scent.

Rubbing the penis inside the anus and intestine of the female likely changes the bacterial composition of the female’s gut. And thus, it changes the smell of her farts and her poop. It likely also “adds” part of the females scent to that male’s penis, which is why men say, “smell my finger” to denote sex with a female. These scent changes all indicate that the female has become part of a male’s harem.

In other words, “imagine the smell”.

>>512839511
Lmao

Next time, stay away from the children

>>512839409
IVF is not synonymous with surrogacy, you dumb fuck.
I also never defended surrogacy or said it was morally acceptable. I defended married couples using IVF to conceive their own children, and you have yet to offer a reason why THAT is morally wrong.
>>512839467
See? Typical MIGA response: ignore the discussion and make retarded posts instead.
>>512839474
What the fuck are you even on about? What does that have to do with IVF?

>>512839732
And you won't defend it now. You'll reference it when it suits you but when asked to render a moral judgement you yourself will also ignore the question. Hypocrite.

>>512839862
I do not find surrogacy to be morally acceptable. It is wrong for the reasons you stated, and I never said otherwise.
Now answer the original question: why is IVF (not surrogacy) wrong?

>>512837080
Taliban showed it's possible.

>>512834026
Hahahjkklkbbbhi

Even if you pander to faggots, they are faggots, so they will never shut up, never show gratitude, and will start promoting even more faggotry. You have to draw the line somewhere, and you must never compromise with faggots.

>>512839985
Because it facilitates things like surrogacy. Your agenda is that IVF is intrinsically good and always morally accpetable and yet you recognize the contradiction that it must be morally wrong when done for surrogacy. That's all I'll say, you've already indicated you don't believe in the spiritual world.

>>512839985
Wasting the womb of a woman of childbearing age to make toys for disgusting faggots. You fags are useless, your very existence

>>512835611
>chose a lifestyle
you sound like a 70 y/o boomer

>>512833554 (OP)

I'm pro gay marriage but that was a bullshit decision. Should've been done legislatively with the will of the people. Most of the country would have legalised it by now.

>>512840379
This is the same retarded argument that liberals use to justify banning guns.
>it heckin facilitates it!!!!
It, in the case of guns, being murder. In the case of IVF, surrogacy.
The solution is not to ban the tool. Its to ban the improper use of it.
>>512840435
Again, you're talking about surrogacy, not IVF in general. The post I originally responded to said IVF should be banned, not that surrogacy should be. Straight married couples use IVF (AGAIN: NOT. SURROGACY.) all the time to create healthy white children.

>>512833554 (OP)
I kinda do not wish to be overturned.

>>512839985
Guns are inanimate. Embryos and sperm are animate. Your analogy is syllogistically weak. For your own sake you should abandon it and look for something better.

>>512840747
See>>512840833

>>512840833
>>512840856
>Embryos and sperm are animate
...What? Embryos and sperm are as animate as an amoeba. They are alive, in the most basic sense of the word, but I do not see how that is even slightly relevant. Do you think they have rights or something?

>>512840735
STFU cocksucker faggot

>>512840747
I dont mind them having guns i kinda find them to be intertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SQsOGAotOJE

See this is like the needle keeping the guns out of the hands of idiots and not taking them away from those that can responsibly have fun with them.

>>512833554 (OP)
THE CLOSETING IS POSITING

>>512840747
You are pathetic.

>>512835611
It's deeply weird how insecure some people are about the decisions others make -- as if the existence of fags and of couples without children is some kind of personal affront. Yes, I understand that the way you justify it is by appealing to "the collective welfare" in some weird MAGA Christian communist kind of way, but your definition of "the collective" is sufficiently restrictive to a sufficiently small amount of people that it's hard to even identify as collectivism rather than just tribal ingroup preference.

>>512841145
>no argument, just more MIGAposting

>>512841005
You do admit they're animate. I win you lose GG

>>512841190
See>>512841198 GG no refunds later

>>512841198
Yeah, and so is the ant you stepped on without noticing it today. Except that ant actually has a rudimentary brain and nervous system, unlike sperm or embryos, which have nothing of the sort. Something being alive doesn't actually mean anything. Consciousness does. Sperm and embryos are not conscious. An embryo, given time and the correct environment, has the possibility of growing into something that can be conscious, but that happens long after the IVF procedure is completed.
Now, care to explain what the fuck your point even is? What does sperm and embryos being alive have to do with IVF being morally wrong?

Death to Globohomo

>>512834729
Indeed. It's telling that they're willing to go this far to try and cover for Epstein though.

>>512833554 (OP)
>>512833554 (OP)

Which how much Trump suck's Bibi's cock gay marriage ain't going anywhere and this is just a nothing burger.

>>512841185
>how insecure some people are about the decisions others make
You say this as if recreational ass sex between two trauma survivors who were assraped as kids is the same as the hallowed institution of hetero marriage.

>>512833554 (OP)
>asked

>>512835898
>Not to mention the $$$ spent on police having to break up spats between the straights
Yeah, it's not worth mentioning because that shit is a drop in the bucket to the amount of money police spend.
Let's also euthanize all dogs because of the amount of $$$ police spend on animal control!
Monkeypox brainworm...

>>512833554 (OP)
The 14th Amendment is the village bicycle of decisions underpinning the modernist zeitgeist.

Progressives have been content with legislation by activist judicial degree for 60-70 years, wielding an increasingly flimsy judicial basis rather than enshrining things through legislative action or the consensus of constitutional convention.

They might have been able to get away with it by taking time to let society and the legal apparatus absorb the decisions being shoved down everyone's throats, but they got too trigger happy, pushing for more and more insane cultural novelties and organizing agitation campaigns to manufacture cases to kick up to the higher courts, until the cultural and legal dominos lined up for a substantive reaction to it. That's where we are now, and where we've been for the past five years.

By the time the dust settles, I suspect a lot of their cultural victories through the supreme court built on the 14th since the 1960s are going to be steamrolled. It's not impossible that even legislation like the Civil Rights act might be partially gutted at some point.

>>512833554 (OP)
Now we need to criminalize racemixing.

>>512833703
Inshallah

>>512833554 (OP)
Shit dicks BTFO

>>512833554 (OP)
it is by definition not a marriage which is a religious and strict concept between a man and woman

it is a partnership

>>512834453
This.

>>512844044
To are selfs and are Posterity.

Same sex can't make Posterity.

If it's possible we should just burn the pregnant men then go back to normal anyway.

>>512833554 (OP)
What about the Epstein files though

>>512838189
its okay. I don't want to be a workhorse for 18 years (or more) I'm happy to go have lose fag sex in cabo without a shithead who's just gonna fuck up like me running around sapping my wallet. IVF. who gives a fuck.

the whole point of this fag, tranny gay shit is the pursuit of happiness. Liberty to do what the fuck. you want to do.


I don't give a shit as long as I can live a life I want to live. That's the ((american)) dream.

we can agree that fags can fag and maga can maga, and trannys can tranny. the big bad isn't each other. IT IS A PURSUIT OF PASSION, LIBERTY, AND FREEDOM TO DO WHAT THOU WILL. Fuck everyone else.........

>>512845414
This NIMBY attitude is why your country is a cancer.

>>512845794
go to the red light district and fuck a big titty whore. at least you guys can go outside to drink a beer.

>>512845794
sincerely. it's not an attitude. It's called freedom homeboy.

>>512833816
Who cares? Faggotry, and especially fag "marriage," is an abomination.

Christ is King

>>512845898
That's the fight. Own land and sodomise your husband. Nobody should care. That's the fight. I don't care what anybody says. Pursuit of happiness is not defined as anything but that.

Red, Blue. what the fuck. It's simple. What is the real issue? Jews. Simple. Subversion.

>>512833554 (OP)
Does this mean they won't be able to adopt kids to rape?

>>512845858
>>512845898
Is the idea that there should be some moral standards and that degeneracy should not be flaunted proudly really that antithetical to your idea of freedom? Also, freedom from what/to do what? Apart from your gun and speech laws, I don’t see what future a country without a common sense of care for the general public has.

>>512845980
Abrahamic religion is built to hold the lie that land is god promised to the cannanites masquerading as ancient israelites.

The United States is a cattleground for breeding bullet catchers for Bibi's wars.

>>512846129
lol Mexico doesn't give a shit about their people. degeneracy is a self-defined standard. why do you care?

Lmao. Freedom is the pursuit of happiness. if butt fucking is you thing, that's your thing. Generally you care about things that are immoral in your eyes, but I bet you got more going on on a smaller scale in your own life.

Relax.

>>512846129
You do not care for the 'sense of care that the general public has' otherwise we might be on a gay ass image board talking about the homeless degenerates, blacks, and the like that sap our general well being as a country.

They're going to use it to loophole trans rights. Since this pushes them to find a loophole. 2 birds 1 stone. You're all retarded.

Avoiding marriage is trendy even among tradcons so why would anyone care?

>ASSFUCKING SODOMITES ARE ILLEGAL
Literally nothing changes on this front.

>>512833703
Imma be honest let the fags suffer the institution that is marriage, people need the business considering many straight people arent getting hitched lmao.

>>512833554 (OP)
It doesn't change anything, because the Defense of Marriage Act that got voted in three years ago forces all states to recognise the marriage.
All that would change is that you can't get married where you want to anymore. Whoop-di-do.

>>512846318
>Mexico doesn't give a shit about their people.
Ok, and? I don‘t want my coutry to look like mexico.

>>512846463
But I do care when there is a fag parade in my city; that bothers me. I care when there are more “refugees“ in my city, they bother everyone. Anyone that can see their society changing into something more negative and just says freedom doesn’t have an argument.

>>512846129
Freedom is freedom, and that's that homie.No two ways about it. You can't stop fags from having butt sex. it's just a thing. Flaunting it isn't necessary if we didn't have something to say against it.

"China #1" doesn't matter because who gives a shit if it's an outcry against the autocrat society I live in.

I'm sure you have friends (a stretch) that are ashamed to have German heritage bc of the supposed atrocities of WWII.

Cucks.The lot of them. The fight in american politics is so divided for a stupid faggy and jewish reason.

>>512835342
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_for_Marriage_Act
All states will be required to accept the marriage after the fact.

>>512846683
I don't want my cities to be remotely close to CDMX.

That said, the opposition isn't what you think and I don't know why a German JEW, holds any bag when it comes to my country, Worry about your immigration/rape problem.

Get with it or don't I said my piece.

>>512833554 (OP)
ACCELERATE

>>512838597
The problem with IVF is that they make a lot of fertilized eggs (which are already new life/new humans by any objective metric) they discard many both outside the womb and then inside the womb (because having quintuplets or even more is of course quite hard).

>>512846683
It's inane to say that well-being is based on moralism. It is, (and maybe we agree on this) based on the jewish subversion of culture. The all inclusivity-ness that I am speaking of, doesn't include that. You will have fags, you don't have to have blacks or a jew controlled congress....

>>512846992
Be a vegan if you actually care. I'm not and I don't care. We could fall into the sun tomorrow, the argument isn't solid.

>>512841185
Away to plebbit with you, if the idea for joint filing is for the sake of there being a "family unit" that is identifiable to the state, then I don't see a problem with removing the gays from it. You're supposed to have sex and make babies to ADD to the population (and tax base.) in a family. And whether or not you like it, and you probably do recognize this due to your post, what gets enshrined into law seeps back into the greater culture. A more Christian government is a more Christian country, whether or not people on an individual level make that decision. In that sense, it makes a lot of sense to remove homo couples from legal definitions of marriage.

>>512846700
Of course, degeneracy is a thing; nobody argues that. But laws are a standard for what is socially agreed upon. Unless you‘re a lolbertarian, I‘m sure you agree.

>>512846841
I don‘t care about America. I was just arguing that „freedom“ is an empty concept, especcially the way it is argued in the US political sphere.

>>512847019
I just don’t understand what you are arguing? All I’m saying is that underiables (jews, fags, nonwhites) should be chastised by society/law. Yes, they will always exist, but the question I’m arguing is what can be done within the legal framework to make society better (from my personal perspective, of course).

>>512846992
Not sure if they should be able to adopt kids though.

>>512847092
Anyway. Free Palestine. Amish is the way to go as an accelerationist.

>>512833913
but so have the GOP and all that's going to happen is the Dems will win and go full woke and then the GOP will win and go right-ish and so on

meanwhile the billionaires are getting rich and richer and you're getting poorer

>>512847181
Das gleiche wie wenn man einen überwachen würde. Geld und immobilien einfrieren bis der nachweis erbracht ist.

>>512847251
shut up leaf. nobody is talking to you.

>>512847181
see
>>512846628
and
>>512841185

>>512847181
Undesirables (nonwhites, jews, mudskins) doesn't include fags. That's what i'm arguing. Fags are a given, for the most part it's on the track of freedom to have guns, sex, and land. it's the same shit. The problem is not with fags...

Marriage in ancient Egypt was a totally private affair in which the state took no interest and of which the state kept no record: there is no evidence for any legal or religious ceremony establishing the marriage, although there was probably a party.

>>512833554 (OP)
History shows that people who have nothing rarely complain and can live under bad government. But those who feel they are losing what they deserve start revolutions.
Banning gay marriage will push revolutionary extremism into 10% of the population.

>>512847522
Divorce and remarriage seem to have been relatively easy and relatively common. There is little convincing evidence for polygamy, except by the king, but extensive evidence for "serial monogamy." Either party could divorce a spouse on any grounds or, basically, without grounds, without any interest or record on the part of the state. The vocabulary for divorce, like that for marriage, reflected the fact that marriage was, basically, living together; a man "left, abandoned" a woman; a woman "went (away from)" or "left, abandoned" a man.

>>512841185
>>512847499
I don‘t care about fags or couples without children. I simply believe fags should not flaunt their degeneracy in public and should receive tax breaks associated with marriage, as those are for the benefit of the potential children resulting from a marriage. They will always exist, but our legal system should not incentivise their activities. Also, yes they are a side issue but they are the topic of this thread.

>>512847682
* should not receive tax breaks

>>512834148
You homosexuals only want to get "married" so you can adopt little boys and rape them

>>512834453
There is only one single definition of marriage you delusional faggot

>>512833619
Civil Unions are a masonic concept based on the idea of marriage (A religious concept older than Christianity, btw) something that is exclusive between men and women because you join in a union with the other with the ulterior idea of having offspring.
>but what if the woman don't want to have children?!
Doesn't change a thing because she or him can change their ideas with time or when they are more financially stable

>we need to involve the state and a massive bureaucracy in regulating marriage; divorce lawyers need to be a thing

lol just lol

>>512847682
I worry about the fact that my first 2k check years ago had $600 taken out for tax reasons.

So do you care about the supposed well being of my country or are you just disgusted by gay marriage?

Worry about excessive tax loopholes; can you even fathom how easy it is to buy, borrow and die with excessive wealth? Do you even know the yearly interest on keeping 1mil in the bank?

At most banks in the US, if you overdraft, you pay a $30 fee for just being poor?

Fuck fags, fuck fag marriage; the bigger picture is right there yo.

>>512847775
>>512847830
shut up croatia nobody even knows you exist.

>>512848036
Its true, homosexuals have no reason to "marry" apart from the potential to adopt and rape little boys. A child needs a mother and father who loves him, not two faggots who will rape him

>>512848003
you're a nonce pleb for even posting here. me included. rip

Ill be honest, this makes me sad, cause at heart while i loathe faggotry i very much believe in live and let live.

However...

Theyre only jealous cause Republicans got to stack the courts and push their agenda instead of them.

If the shoe was on the other foot, if ginsberg had stepped down and Obama got two appointments instead of wanting the optics of a divine mandate blessing their agenda from a womyn of powah bullshit, it would be them stripping away our sacred rights and laughing at us. Theyd be sending death squads to our homes for our guns, taking our kids, and laughing at us for being on the wrong side of history.
Instead they got cocky and forgot they still had to win a goddamned election and now its abortion and gay marriage and degeneracy on the chopping block.
Its not abput freedom or rights its about power to them, and they are simply lamenting the loss of their power, of their ability to push their seventy year old agenda.
So when i see this and feel the urge to respect peoples opinions and creed who are different than mine, i remember that if Obama hadnt been so full of himself theyd be gloating and refusing to leave me alone. So, fuck em.
Good goddamned riddance. I hear canada is nice, fag.

>>512833703
>homos btfo
>tranime
oh the ironing

>>512834781
Calling sodomy disgusting is classified as "homophobia" here.

>>512848003
I don‘t care about the USA. I care about what happens in Germany, and your countries politics sadly filters through to us.

I‘m moderately well off, and know many genuine richfags, so I know a bit about the way our financial systems stacked against the average person and perversely let wealth build upon wealth. And I know our financial and tax system is rigged, but that is not the issue we’re debating.

Also in germany our taxes are way to high, (if you‘re not wealthy enough to profit of loopholes). But the tax rate of approx 30% would get you healthcare and unemployment benefits. So maybe you should worry what your taxes are spend on.

Lastly why are you so desperate to defend fags? Are you a libertarian or why are you so defensive and deflecting from the subject of this thread?

>>512833554 (OP)
Homos demand a contract with the state which states that they are in love with each other for the moment? Okay?
Oh, heteros also demand this?
And all the fight is about, who is allowed to have such a contract with the state and who not, depending on the number of penises within these loverlationships? And people get angry about this? Must be an IQ filter.

>>512849167
>property and medical rights couldn't possibly be a component of this

>>512849167
It‘s about two issues: morality and tax incentives. Morally, you can of course make your own judgement, but should a society encourage a relationship that, per definition, cannot produce children? Which are the intended beneficiaries of such tax incentives.

>>512848363
Faggots have never been "live and let live". You give "marginalized" people an ounce of power and suddenly they become insane authoritarians and suddenly you realize why they were marginalized in the first place.

Some people literally do not deserve freedom because they will use that freedom to opress normal people. Society should exist for the betterment of normals, not for the flattery of the fringes.

>>512834428
This happened recently too

>>512849268
>>512849321
Oh, I see now. The system as a whole is retarded. Thank you anon for explaining it to me.

>should we reorder and retool society to make the least productive, least fertile people feel good about themselves?
The answer is no every time.

>>512834428
try that shit on the kike flag and see what happens, hard guy goyim.

>>512833554 (OP)
There are NO normal gay guys. Zero.

>>512833913
You can't trust them because they can't be honest. Everything they claim to believe is a lie. It's all bullshit. They're brainwashed by ideology. They can't answer any questions with a yes or a no. They're predators who prey on people who want to be good people. They don't actually support equality. They're looking for revenge and any group they can hate with impunity, they will. They don't believe in social justice, they want revenge and the ability to take out their anger on people while still remaining good. They're weasels with words and definitions. People like this should never have power over anyone.

>>512842312
It's rather pathetic that it took Cuckservatives 70 years to rebel against the Warren court, and really libtards did the heavy lifting by being overzealous.

Uh oh, Peter Thiel and the tech bros aren't going to like this one. Guess we're getting a Democrat in 2028.

>>51283355
How many times does this bitch have to sue? It really is endless with Christians. Having tax free megachurches and subsidized private schooling isn’t enough for them? She’ll lose, btw, because unlike based Fred Phelps she’s arguing religious reasons, which aren’t always covered by the 1st amendment.

>get what they wanted
>Keep pushing and whine and make everything worse till it got revoked
Topjej, they deserved it. I feel bad for the ones that did not act like the pride lot, though.

>>512850192
Oh drop the moral superiority, gays haven’t changed in the slightest beyond visibility. What you and the kiddie diddlers protest is them being allowed in the public eye. All of this moral outrage over family values and racial integrity are functionally gayer than men who eat their boyfriends cum. You sound like a salty church mom who never got over their kid wearing a dress in the school play

>>512850562
>gays haven’t changed in the slightest beyond visibility.
And that is the problem. Go be a fag where we can‘t see you. I would 100% not care if someone was gay if they didn‘t parade through the streets. Just be decent and don‘t wear stuff in public that would normal people get arrested for public indecency.

>>512837260
It's been interesting to watch the gay community fall into the same anti-social decay the straight community has experienced. Societal collapse and all that.

>>512845794
>NIMBY
QRD?

>>512849167
>>512849476
based.

>>512849733
who jews?
>>512850801
you wouldn't be wrong if people had strife directed properly.

>>512839539
This makes too much sense to be a "gotcha" post

>>512852065
anon just likes fart and poop. wouldn't read into it. it's a^2+b^2=I like caca.

Sure it checks out but duh.

>>512852207
male or female, the genitalia is located there for a reason.

>>512838414
Its crazy how desperate you are to get me to have kids. Are you a jew or a tranny?

>>512851767
Not in my backyard. Basically saying I don‘t care if I don‘t see it. Or even worse, saying I dont like it so do it over there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY

>>512833554 (OP)
>ASSFUCKING SODOMITES ARE ILLEGAL
>goes back to fuck his wife in the ass instead of pussy just below it
duality of the (((Conservative)))

>>512835611
Also enacting population control while simultaneously flooding the country with low IQ browns is insane.

Why did you guys stop sign tapping

>>512842312
There's one simple reason the country has turned into legislation by judicial decree rather than passing laws or constitutional amendments. It's a lot easier. Passing a law or adding an amendment is really difficult work and has too little chance of success comparatively.

>>512836530
First day?

>>512833619
No no no, you see, instead of being "Man and Wife", you'll be "Butt Bud-dies".

>>512856403
>Passing a law or adding an amendment is really difficult work
It's super easy. The problem is that leftists don't have the votes, or the support, or anyway to define what they want. Lawfare is faster. Leftists profit. Lawfare can be undone by the next judge. Leftists screech and profit again. This won't stop until voters understand that legal opinions last like a fart in the wind.

>>512834428
isn't he still in a gulag to this day for his crime?

>>512837437
That's because unlike straights, monogamy is an exception, not the rule, for fags. Therefore there is less pent up frustration

>>512847499
Lol fucking faggot
>Us gays are based, we should go after the shitskins instead
Aids ridden sodomites just can't help themselves can they?

>>512834729
This.
Now die for Israel, goyim

>>512835458
Why should marriage chicks get tax breaks at all? I shouldn't be forced to finance your degenerate lifestyle.

>>512847251
my stars! a based leaf who sees the truth! The game is very rigged, with only leftists winning, and the GOP cücking.

I'm open to the possibility that kikes really do a slight rightward turn (due to the leftist antizionists), but the cake is about baked, and it's got a turd in it.