Thread 513135975

What is the point of this meeting if Ukraine isnt there?

>>513135975 (OP)
>Ukraine is a vassal of the EU/UK
>EU/UK is a vassal of the USA
Why would a vassal be invited to the superpowers-only club?

>>513135975 (OP)

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to.

>>513135975 (OP)
What is the point of having them there? Only Russia and the US decide when this war is over

>>513135975 (OP)
Little Z was invited but he wouldn't wear a suit so they didn't let him in

>>513135975 (OP)
Because Ukraine isn't losing

>>513135975 (OP)
What was the point of prior peace summits without Russia there?

Just to further humiliate them. The best thing to come out of this is going to be the twitter seethe.

>>513135975 (OP)
completely irrelevant what ukraine thinks about anything
they'll lose tomorrow if the west pulls out

>>513136626
"the west" isnt there either

>>513136626
They can't stop fighting because Russia commits genocide.

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine doesn't really have any say in the matter.

>>513137283
In 3.5 years of conflict Russia hasn't killed as many civilians as Israel has killed in the first 3 months of their operations in Gaza and even that is not really a genocide. You are retarded

>>513137174
I get the point but america is more dependent on western europe than they or we believe
it actually is quite relevant what western europe thinks even if they're not there

>>513135975 (OP)
There hasn't been a single time in history when anyone bothered to ask hohols anything.

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine doesn't have any leverage. They're entirely dependent on US satellites for intel and communications.

>>513138086
so this meeting is the preparation to fucking Ukraine over?

>>513135975 (OP)
putin does whatever west tells him to do

>>513135975 (OP)
The USA want to ally with Russia rather than the EU. Norway and Canada will be forced to join, and then this North Pole alliance will control the Arctic.

>>513138187
Maybe, maybe not. However, what Ukraine's leadership thinks about it is not relevant.

>>513138187
No. It's to fuck the EU.

>>513137621
So? Russia has killed hundreds in occupied territories shortly after the invasion and stopped after Ukraine fought back. Retreating Russian soldiers left behind lots of evidence of bodies and even mass graves after the first few months. Comparing kills and having fewer kills doesn't make any less of a genocide. Don't be disingenuous. Stop kissing their ass, they're not your friends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine would have attended but they were too busy committing war crimes against the Russian people like attacking power plants and natural gas infrastructure

>>513135975 (OP)
To establish that poland's super quadruple ball-slapping next.

>>513138187
Ukraine has already been fucked over the moment NATO and the US State Department hijacked control of the country.

>>513135975 (OP)
Because US already admitted even on highest official level, that it's a proxy war? Ukraine is not an actual subject to negotiate anything. US and Russia are actual sides of the conflict. Other NATO members to lesser degree, but they are vassal states too.
Stop playing fool, kraut.

>>513135975 (OP)
Because it's not about peace.
Jews have let go of Jewlensky when he refused to give Ukraine for scraps to both USA and Russia.
These talks are specifically that, Trump agreeing with Putin on being allowed access to Ukraine's resources and minerals after they lose Nato support and are forced to surrender.

>>513138643
We didnt want this war.
The desired scenario for the americans was from the beginning to destroy Europe with the Ukraine war and have europeans fight the war on Ukraines side, with little american involvement.
Trump is essentially a deep state actor. He is just performing the long standing american plan to abondon Europe
All the "persecution" against him was fake and gay, thats why it never got anywhee, other than to give him publicity.
Zeihan talked about it years ago.
The US is abolishing their empire and will leave the rest of the world in flames and especially Europe.
The americans pushed all of Europe to support Ukraine, they pushed for sanctions on Russia
They even foiled early peace plans.
They constantly pushed for european weapons delivered to Ukraine.
They did everything to start and then escalate the war.

>>513138695
My post was based off mainstream numbers even though they include fake and gay "Rusiian atrocities" like Bucha

>>513139188
So in 2014.
Next time you americans will try to slander von der Leyen for aiding Ukraine now after being invaded, remember that in 2015 Germany, and her as their minister of defence refused to arm ukraine and urged everyone else not to as it would escalate conflicts.
Instead of listening, CIA and mossad only fueled everything happening at the border between Russia and Ukraine, and gave extra fund to nato so ukrainians can be armed.
Everything, this invasion, every russian and ukrainian death, their blood is on american hands.

>>513135975 (OP)
because that's the reality. people that live in zog imaginarium that's eu and ukraine narative don't belong to /pol/

>>513139695
/thread

>>513140127
>They did everything to start and then escalate the war.
And we'll escalate it until every kacap is dead

>>513140558
First leader ever kicked out of the white house lol

>>513135975 (OP)
Push useless violence to its limit and someone else will push harder when they’re sick of your shit. You opened the door with the violence, now you will be dealt with without respect. You have lost your sovereignty and forfeited your nation. I truely mean what I have said. Your greed has lost you your entire country as you may have known it.

>>513135975 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_y3HbY4rpc

>>513142138
Then why are you hiding in Poland?

>>513135975 (OP)
I hope that the republican party never wins again. Demographics look that way. That's all I know. I no longer give a shit about demographic change, and I'll pray for the hastened destruction of this country, fervently, until death, because of this.

>>513142223
ANYONE who doesn’t shower the insecure tantrum-throwing toddler with false flattery and feed his narcissism is kicked out of the White House.

>>513143736
>I'll just vote Democrat next time!
Never going to learn

>>513136155
>russia
>superpower
Lolwut. It's barely a regional power, a vassal state of china, another regional power.

>>513144052
>Non-superpower be like

>>513140127
>We didnt want this war.
Nobody cares and Yes you did.
Merkel has said that Minks 2 was signed to trick Putin.

>>513144052
LMAO, Switzerland coping.

>>513135975 (OP)
If Zelensky doesn't agree to Trump's terms, then no more money or weapons.

>>513135975 (OP)
Trump is a retard who thinks he can just tell Putin to stop the war and he will.

>>513135975 (OP)
Because Zelinsky runs Ukraine and doesn't care about Ukraine, he's just the puppet of private interest which get benefits from endless war.

So he would be a burden in a peace meeting.

>>513145419
why dont you fuck off back to Russia?

>>513138695
>Retreating Russian soldiers left behind lots of evidence of bodies and even mass graves after the first few months.

That was hohols killing russian collaborators

>>513135975 (OP)
So Ukraine gets sold down the river, because Ukraine has no agency and isn't a real country.

>>513135975 (OP)
Because Ukraine is a puppet doing NATO's bidding. Did you seriously forget that? This war ends when NATO nations and Russia agree it does, Ukraine's opinion is wholly irrelevant.

>>513135975 (OP)
This meeting is very serious for the whole world, there is no room for a dancing comedian playing piano with his dick.

>>513146358
>why dont you fuck off back to Russia?
Shut up NAFOtroon

>>513146925
go kill some more white people in Ukraine, you russian nigger

Zelensky is a puppet of Europe (WEF/Davos/City of London). Zelensky is in no position to make a deal. All he would be able to do is try to embarrass these two; like he tried to do in the White House.

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine is just a vassal state, and their unhinged jew in charge would try and scuttle talks.

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine is America's proxy so it doesn't matter

>>513144052
> Switzerland does not possess nuclear weapons and has no plans to acquire them.
lol

>>513147202
No, the EU is owned by america as well. That's why they just cucked immediately on trade and are gearing up for their jewish war without consent from their people.

>>513135975 (OP)
UKRAINE ABOUT TO GET GANGBANGED

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine is a cucked country and its future hasn't been its own since Zelensky started begging to join the union of faggots.

>>513147477
thats what it seems like

>>513138643
Russia, Ukraine and USA are not EU members.

Every day President Trump reduces the chances of America getting entangled in the European shit show.
Before President Trump's inauguration, Americans were rightfully concerned that we were drawing close to a hot war with Russia.
We didnot even know who was making the decisions. Joe Biden was certainly not in charge. Kamala Harris was not calling the shots.
I do notcare what any no guns Euro faggot from Germany, England or France thinks.
George Washington warned future Americans about entangling alliances. The costs of these European "alliances" are not worth any small benefit America might accrue.
All of these Euro faggots immediately start squealing like a French whore as soon as Americans question where our money is going.
Fuck all of these no guns Euro faggots and their alliance.
The globalists want to grind Russia down with constant conflict. Now that Ukraine is spent they want to spend America's youth and treasure against Russia. The European politicians and EU bureaucrats are controlled by anti American globalists. These globalist controlled politicians and bureaucrats used lies and deceit in attempts to lure America into a war with Russia the American people did not want. America is better off distancing itself from those that try to draw us into war. America is better off without these "allies".

>>513151073
>>513140127
looks like Im spot on

>>513151192
It will be awesome watching the Russian Army roll through Berlin for the second time in 80 years.

>>513135975 (OP)
What's the point of Jewlensky having those "peace summits" with EU if Russia isn't there?

>>513135975 (OP)
Probably so Putin can instruct commie traitor Trump on how to sabotage NATO this September when Russia invades the Baltics and Poland. But the Jews could have done that themselves. There really is no point to this meeting.

>>513151860
It is all theatre. Political stooges putting on a show. They live in an echo chamber that reinforces their delusion. None of the people of Europe believe anything they say.
It is all theatre.

>>513151627
that would be funny, because we are still occupied by americans

>>513152206
Not for long. We are tired of all of your bullshit.
The juice is not worth the squeeze.

>>513152352
what bullshit?
youve run the place for 80 years

>>513152352
we dont need your wanking gi´s here
get them out!

>>513152671
That is the plan retard. The Russian Army can watch over yo faggots from here on out.
Maybe they will not get too rapey. However, Vladimir Putin does hate you motherfuckers.
What you did to Saint Petersburg still makes him mad.

>>513152820
two weeks after he takes Kiev I guess

>>513153180
LOL, Do you think the German Army under your current political leadership will last 2 weeks ?
You underestimate how much Vladimir Putin hates you for what you did to Mother Russia in World War 2.

>>513153352
is that we he build a pipeline to Germany which you blew up?

>>513135975 (OP)
>what is the point of mom and dad arguing if I’m not there

>>513135975 (OP)
Ukraine is dependant to the point that its opinion does not genuinely matter.
Or more bluntly: If they wanted to negotiate they should have gotten some leverage through genuine victories, lacking that...

>>513135975 (OP)
Because Ukraine won't exist anymore

>>513154048
You fucking retards built your entire manufacturing base on the premise of cheap and abundant Russian natural gas and oil. Just because he hates you does not mean he will not take your money.

>>513154467
>he hates us
>gives us cheap energy

>>513135975 (OP)
>what is a proxy war

It's easier if he's not there since they don't have to pretend to care about his position.

>>513140127
>They even foiled early peace plans
That was Boris Johnson thoughbeit. "Lets just wage war" was his proposal.

>>513154632
Not any more. Your own politicians fucked that up.
Too bad about them shutting down all of your nuclear power plants.
I guess you have to buy American LNG at 10x the price of Russian gas now.

>>513144052
>Russia is a 3rd world backwater country and the 2nd strongest army in Ukraine, however Russia simultainiously controls US political discourse, the world order, and every single anti-immigration party in Europe
Schrödingers Superpower

>>513135975 (OP)
Why would the proxy be invited? Would a meeting between Israel and Iran waste time inviting Hamas? Do you Europeans still not understand that you were tricked into this war by America?

>>513135975 (OP)
Why would they ask a vassal state made by Communist Bolshevics for anything?

>>513136522
>picrel for NAFO Troons like yourself

>>513135975 (OP)
Why would it matter if Ukraine is there?

>>513154870
>Too bad about them shutting down all of your nuclear power plants.
traitors on the american payroll

what was ever the point of the ukraine, or any of these other former soviet doormats

>>513135975 (OP)
none, nothing happened anon. what are you talking about? how new are you? NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

>>513147410
>No, the EU is owned by america as well.
The EU is run by old families that control the WEF and Davos (above Schwab and Soros, Van der Leyen, etc). This plutocracy needs Russias resource of over 60 trillion for Europe.

>>513144052
Russia is the only military in the world that is competent(white-adjacent) with an industrial base.

>>513155454
let me guess, the Eu blew up its own pipeline as well

>>513155332
Angela Merkel's father was an agent of the East German Stasi and you fucking morons elected her Chancellor of Germany from 2005 to 2021. She shut down all of your nuclear power plants and enabled swarms of Turks and Africans to migrate to your country.
Take some ownership of your own country.

>>513156038
>Take some ownership of your own country.
says the american nigger that still occupies it

>>513156181
That is the point you fucking moron. Take some ownership of your own country.

>>513156181
Do you know why no one occupies America ? Because we shoot them in the fucking face. You fucking moron.

>>513135975 (OP)
Well Zelensky would've just chimped out and jumped over the table. Fuck that midget.

>>513156313
your shithole runs the entire media here and has half the politicians on your payroll, you fucking jigger

>>513156504
Take ownership of your own fucking country you fucking faggot

>>513135975 (OP)
>Ukraine
Who?

>>513156551
how does any of that refute what Im saying
youre some weird CIA bot, trying to deflect blame

>>513156775
retard fucking Oktober Fest faggot. If you choose to be a slave to American Cock we will let you suck it. It is up to you to take ownership of your own fucking country.

>>513156924
>runs the entire media
>occupies the country
>blows up german pipelines
>hurr hurr, you chose that!

>>513156038
>Merkel enabled swarms of Turks and Africans to migrate to your country.
The swarms of Turks and Balkans (and probably also Pakistanis) came almost 40 years before Merkel became Chancellor.

>>513155202
>doesn't know how to greentext properly
expected from a VPNigger.

>>513155683
The goal since the end of the 1800s was to destroy Germany because they were a threat to this hegemony. A combined Germany and Russia would surpass the Anglo-American establishment. Germany's engineering with Russia's resources and theoretical physics and manpower would be insurmountable. Germany and Russia cooperation cannot be allowed.

>>513135975 (OP)
The talk was apparently only 2 1/2 hours, has any statement been made yet?

>>513158810
>VPNnigger.
Show your work, you absolutely retarded faggot. I'm sitting in Kentucky, unlike you who is most likely in California, Oregon, Washington, or New York. Kill yourself.

>>513135975 (OP)
vlad won't take to zelinsky or the eu because he does not take either of them seriously due to them both being vassal states to america

>>513143736
Wow, you seem really mad.