Thread 513177410

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>>513177410 (OP)
Not that simple. People need to work at something, anything, or else they quickly get bored and make trouble, until they get old.
Now you know the secret: the state wants to work you like a dog so that you'll be too tired to stir up trouble, whatever that means.

>>513177410 (OP)
far-left stinky treehuggers are way more worthy of respect than normies, true, but don't kid yourself. She's still off, just like 85-iq internet racists.

>>513177410 (OP)
yeah, okay, this is someone I'm really going to listen to.
Is she like 18?
https://www.instagram.com/freewildstrawberries/
https://www.threads.com/@freewildstrawberries

So should I go rob as storage units now

She's right you know

>>513177410 (OP)
She's right. Fuck kikes.

>>513177410 (OP)
good god fearing people like the amish deserve this maybe... but the rest would get lazy, think they are the shit and start doing crime for clout

>>513177410 (OP)
Those 8 men have the last name Rothschild.

>there is so much stuff rotting in storage units
Most stuff in storage units is garbage nobody wants.
>nearly half of all food goes to waste
The food supply chain runs on trucks, forklifts and distribution centers, not good vibes. If you want to pay a courier $100 to distribute a crate of wilting lettuce heads and stale bread that cost $2 to produce to the handful of people who might want it then go ahead. Economically it's a lot LESS wasteful to just throw it in the bin. "Eliminating waste" in this context would just mean supermarkets would constantly have empty shelves in the fresh produce section. It wouldn't mean cheap free food for everyone.
>we don't even need to be working really at all
Leftists have literally zero concept of the scale of industry and logistics that exists to deliver their modern quality of life.
>8 men control half the world's wealth
"Wealth" doesn't represent physical resources and services locked up in a vault being denied to everyone else.

>>513177709
Idk about that. Main troublemakers have always been jews in America, and there's been plenty of relaxed times when people didnt need to work themselves to death. Seems you just have to bar jews from being present - et voila

She's correct (and in western countries it's why we have food banks and thrift stores/garage sales etc.), but what she doesn't comprehend is that the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities in which we all subsist is totally segregated and walled off from the post-1970s Financialized global economy in which all of the world's wealth is held (by the top HNW entities she kvetches about at the end)

everyone on /pol/ is just as dumb clueless and uninformed/unaware as OP she is

>>513177410 (OP)
We saw her ilk try and fail to implement their worldview on even the smallest scale at CHAZ

>>513177410 (OP)
Stop asking questions, filthy goy. Get back to work so i can reap all the benefits from your tax returns.

>>513177410 (OP)
Get a job, nigger

>>513177410 (OP)
That is a jew.

>>513177711
>If you hate me you are low IQ
Whatever you say.

>>513177709
so instead of working in call centers, retail or in warehouse jobs, people should be working restoration jobs
there's so many different fucking methods of restoration and repair, not to mention all the different types of objects too
i'd rather see a warehouse filled with miniworkshops that men sit in and repair rusty tools and broken lawn mowers and restore old 1920s gas lamps and all that shit instead of seeing them hauling around boxes filled with disposable chinese garbage

>>513177410 (OP)
This was debunked by Adam Smith in 1776.

>>513177410 (OP)
conservitards making 90k a year hated this

>>513177410 (OP)
Yes but let’s destroy the society they built it all and instead elect more niggers and kikes

>>513177410 (OP)
It would be if families were intact.

>>513177410 (OP)
I'm sure she's unemployed and smells like water trash but the good news is she will be replaced by AI and likely liquidated soon so our wasteful ways won't be a concern for her anymore. Chin up kiddo

>>513177410 (OP)
i hate communists so much, fucking naive short sighted faggots

>>513177410 (OP)
This is false, and disastrous imagination, that kikes and sluts and niggers propagate to kill the societies they have leached off of the entire time they contributed nothing.

>>513180462
they'd only get ~36k a year if there was 'equal distribution' of assets, so why would they want to work if they can just coast and make the same amount for doing fuckall? this is where the socialist/communist argument breaks down, because it forces workers to meet quotas at gunpoint. Yes, end stage wealth extraction capitalism fucking sucks and things need to change, but that starts with voting for people that aren't evil little faggots. Leftoids love to grandstand and talk about how great their millionaires in office are because lip service is enough for them, and rightoids don't care that their children will be enslaved or exterminated. We can blame a small group of people forever and always and blame the other side while we're at it, but at the end of the day it is fault of every single person that can vote. All of this mess, due to retards. Yeah, let's give more power to the greedy or incompetent government by letting it seize and redistribute all resources and make all decisions centrally. Nothing could ever go wrong with such a system, and there is no way such a system could be corrupted or serve as a siren's song for ambitious shitbags. You would trade billionaires for autocrats and do so willingly. You are begging for it because you are stupid.

>>513180761
not reading that sorry dude maybe you have good intentions yea lol stop worshipping jews

>>513180785
>said the bolshevist, not understanding what irony is because he can't read

>>513177410 (OP)
Jews ejaculate to the misery that they cause others. There's enough food and land out here to feed the whole world ten
times over.

>>513177410 (OP)
Typical female retardation

>>513180817
i didn't read it bro, in hindsight i should have said conservitards making 40k lol no way people here are making more than 2k a month

>>513177410 (OP)
you don't need the approval of the 8 men to change the world. you need logistics and advertising. if you just start fixing shit, people will join you

>>513177410 (OP)
and the best part? there's NOTHING you can do about it

>>513180390
>I'd like to see engineers with valuable skills waste all their highly productive time repairing ancient shit that could easily be replaced by a far cheaper modern alternative
you are just like one of those retarded anarchists who envisions a world where their smartphone is built by a local hobbyist

>>513177410 (OP)
They always just blab and complain, then hit the bong again.

>>513178879
This. She’s overestimating how much of a surplus there really is. And while I think you can have a real discussion about the fairness of modern labor, the conclusion that we could live in paradise if we just redistributed what has already been produced is a little ridiculous. However, the system definitely needs to be reformed.

>>513177410 (OP)
She's right in some ways. Our production efficiency is at all times high and we work the longest hours while corpos support practices like planned obsolescence. The obscene consoomerism has enslaved humanity to work endlessly for shit that they will throw away in few months.

>>513181079
>just throw stuff away because a small and replaceable part failed

>>513178661
Wow. Really? That changes everything. Wait actually it changes fucking nothing

>>513178879
>>513181200
>overestimating how much of a surplus there really is
Not by much.

>the system
Nonprofit groups (in terms of the unused food topic) have found many innovative and efficient ways in urban population center areas to re-distribute food. It is far from rocket science and doesn't take much effort. The primary impediment and obstacle is the willingness of the larger, mostly corporate-owned food retailers vendors and producers to participate and donate near-expiration or unused produce and food products which is mostly due to those corporations' attorneys/legal departments fear of liability consequences (both food safety, and local/state regulatory compliance) aka they don't want to get sued; which they use as an excuse to landfill thousands of tons of perfectly usable food that could be distributed to those in need.
It's a pretty simple topic with only a few easily identifiable glitches and obstacles. America has *far* more food per capita available on any given day than any other nation on Earth.

'Spare'/wasted food surplus, in America is 100 percent a distribution system issue nothing more

>>513181200
>However, the system definitely needs to be reformed.
I'm not agreeing to that until i hear a plan for reform that isn't orders of magnitude worse than what we have now

>>513181368
People do repair things, constantly, if it's economical. For small cheap consumer goods, replacing it is often more economical. I swear you dumbasses have never worked with a machine bigger than a desktop computer.

In a childlike way, she is correct. Medieval peasants worked less and had more days off than we do. But implementing this would breakdown almost immediately because these people would be taken advantage of by hostile outsiders. You can implement something partially like this in a more homogeneous high trust place and I'll leave it to the imagination of the lurker where these places might be.

>>513181471
correct. I laugh when people talk about 'needing more legislation' to 'fix' things. Motherfucker, the constitution took ten years to write because they had to deliberate and compromise. Instead, retard voters want us to have political whiplash every election cycle, making political spending more important while the voter rails against it. Everyone is just too stupid to understand incentive structures.

the real problem is that if the dunbar number is legit, then we can only really care about so many people around us. mass media is a small dunbar number group of people trying to spread their values to us. what would be better is to shun mass media in favor of a system of overlapping small communities, where group a overlaps with group b who overlaps with group c, all helping each other out. rather than one dominant voice or 5 dominant voices (mass media) manipulating all groups

Nuclear blackpill is that you can't give normies free time.
Elites understand this.

Work has to function as an inescapable prison to prevent billions of literal retards having all day to fuck shit up.

>>513177410 (OP)
>8 men
Name their ethnicity.

>>513181605
>People do repair things, constantly, if it's economical.
economical meaning practical and/or convenient. the line of thinking that 'just buy another one instead of fixing it' is entering into a death spiral. People will just buy cheaper, shittier things and have them repaired less often, meaning you will need to buy cheaper and shittier things ad infinitum until things like can openers are designed to be single use items. That's fucking retarded and reliant on cheap raw materials, but once we burn through enough raw materials, or more likely the energy used to process them, shit becomes dire and humanity dies because everyone is a retard, buys cheap shit that doesn't fucking work, and traded the future for convenience. sick.

>>513177410 (OP)
women stealing other peoples wealth name a more iconic duo

>>513181605
>if it's economical
This is the mindset that is fucking us.
A piece of a tool breaks, it's "economical" to just toss it and buy another one. Absolutely.
But that means that new tools need to constantly be made, forever. Which means there needs to be a factory making them, supplied by a smelter, supplied, by a mine.
Forever. Each one of those needs to have an entire crew of people 8-12 hours a day 40-60 hours a week.
Forever.
And the guy with the broken tool doesn't have the time to try and fix it himself because he is one of those people trapped in this rube goldberg machine of human suffering forever as well.
So he buys a new one when there is just shit EVERYWHERE and there should be time to just chill the fuck out but there isn't because there has to be infinite growth.
FOREVER.

>>513181771
but allowing flow between those groups is basically the same thing as just allowing free flow between any group. You'd have to be able to trade freely with your allowed groups, but never move, and this would give rise to dominant groups that are currently better off purely based on location or a set of people and this would breed resentment and lead to conflict, so an overseer group would need to exist to keep the peace and 'balance' success. This is just the hunger games world.

>>513182035
Economical meaning economical. The fallacy that you make here is assuming that repairing *must* always use less resources than replacing, to the same end. This just isn't true. Look at buildings for an easy example; past a certain point it is just better to tear down and rebuild.

>>513182174
true

>>513177709
The biggest threat isn't idleness, it's wealth concentration.

>>513182202
but you don't know if it uses more or less resources because nobody tries to do it, as they have been conditioned by every other idiot around them to just blindly consume new shit. The worst offender of this would be dumb electronic devices with simple pcbs inside. one capacitor goes out and the thing is essentially useless to a large portion of the population, but would be valuable to people that could repair it, but it just gets thrown away because raw materials and energy are ridiculously cheap right now.

>>513177410 (OP)
>distribute
steal

>>513182247
don't get me wrong, the basic idea is good and would also serve a purpose of preserving a regional culture. globalism is sterile and boring. every american is starting to sound the exact same. same thoughts, same ideas, same accent, same clothing styles and music choices. It's not a good thing for creativity or sanity, but there needs to be an incentive to promote small, regionally distinct goods and services which would create jobs in locations other than large metro areas. fuck metro areas.

>>513182303
Correct and most of the (Financialized, see ^^^^upthread) wealth concentration results directly from idleness not 'hard work' of the top HNW entities

The Money Deluge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs

>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."
— Nick Dearden (quoted in the documentary '97% Owned)

>>513182318
>would be valuable to people that could repair it
Then there should markets full of savvy repairers buying up cheap broken shit to make easy money. There are electronics recycling programs already, you're telling me there are people who would pay for all that shit and make a tidy profit from repairing it? Then why aren't they already?

>>513177410 (OP)
>give me free stuff!!

>>513181771
>overlapping small communities
De-centralization is definitely the way to go and the future of humanity if we're to survive as a species. It's directly related to the corralling of everyone into urban population centers (which is what the you-know-who, ruling class, WEF et al. want)

>>513182646
What's wrong with that if it's about to be landfilled or going to expire anyway?

>>513177410 (OP)
Then fucking buy the used stuff instead of blowing all your money on a fucking Louis Vuitton handbag

>>513182585
>pay to 'ethically dispose' of ewaste or just dump it in the trash and hope you don't get caught for free
remember, this is the same group that wants convenience and cost savings over anything else.

>>513182800
I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to my point.

>>513177410 (OP)
it's true
evil people like running everyone into dust running in circle for that which was always within arms reach for their parasitic means and malignant intents
the dark gods demand it

>>513177410 (OP)
Shes right but just replace white men with jews.

>>513182865
The same people (the consumer) that created and are maintaining a market full of shitty consumer slop will not pay to recycle their ewaste, but will instead just throw it out either out of ignorance or convenience, so there can't be a repair ecosystem because everything is thrown in the trash.

>>513177410 (OP)
To seize them means of what was already produced instead of the means to produce it, it's literally a more retarded version of Communism.

>>513182703
Because then they don't have the incentive to keep them out of a nursing home.
>No my begging child who whinges on social media all day instead of getting a job would never do that.

>>513177709
In otherwords: literally Jew daycare.

>>513177410 (OP)
>fairly distribute it all
Translation: you must give all your generational wealth to niggers

>>513182136
the man buys a new tool in 5 minutes and then goes back to work making cars.

or he spends 5 hours repairing his shitty tool and thus gives up 4:55 hours of car making and the world loses X many cars, and we are all poorer.

opportunity cost, you fool.

>"but what about the opportunity cost of making all those new tools"
manufacture is easy to automate, repair is almost impossible to automate. that's why it costs $75 to buy a brand new beard trimmer including profit margin and it costs $70 to replace the battery on an old one because you have to pay $10 for the battery and $60 for the labour.

or you could do it yourself, but let me guess - you've got better things to do with your time.

well, so does everyone else. if you want your broken shit repaired, waste your own time doing it.

>>513177410 (OP)
Kill the rich and it’s all over. They took our land, our food, and now our women. Kill them all and make sure the last thing they ever see is their children’s heads being blown off like a Palestinian.

>>513183526
are you a board member or stock holder of a large and reputable brand? well, just extract wealth by making shittier products and ending customer service. yeah, you'll kill the company, but before that you will be immensely profitable and if you cash out before the end, you will be rich. opportunity costs and all that.

>>513183655
non sequitur.

>>513177410 (OP)
The only reform that needs to be done is to abandon the Cult of GDP and stop worshipping le heckin eternal growth.

This (and jews) is why productivity soars while wages stagnate. This is why population decline is met with importing niggers and poos rather than a market correction of real estate value. The worship of GDP growth is the sole reason for nearly all the troubles of the modern world.

And the reason the Cult of GDP exists is to mask jewish robbery known as inflation because without it, it all falls apart.

(((Modern globalized capitalism))) is the largest Ponzi scheme ever devised in all of history.

>>513177410 (OP)
T R V K E

>>513183666
fitting numerals. Also no because you said
>opportunity cost
you fool

>but you'll kill the company
But we all will be richer.

What is the point in working hard to build shit if the government is just going to take it and give it out to lazy people?

>>513183903
the question that communists cannot answer without a gun

>>513177410 (OP)
>Fairly distribute
She means give everything to niggers, spics, and Jeets who contributed nothing to all that shit she just said. What a dumb thread, but people will bump it anyways.

>>513177410 (OP)
>why don't we just, like, steal stuff?

>>513177410 (OP)
at some point these billionaires will hopefully realize that we don't HAVE to have billions people living like shit in order for some of us to live well, we can have AI and robots do all the shitty stuff so everyone can live it up for nothing (UBI).
That may not be healthy for society, though. Idle hands and all. But I dunno what else we would do when those things make every job 100x more optimized so you need way way less employees

>>513177410 (OP)
>steal all the wealth
then what?
Dumb witch.

>>513183943
>just have them make guns so the problem solves itself.

>>513177410 (OP)
Artificial scarcity in capitalism is a must

>>513177709
But why must it be for shekelstein though?
If we redistributed the 1%'s wealth and stolen goods we could all work on whatever we want instead at home and life.
We can't do that as shekelstein barely pays you for breaking your back, just enough so you can eat moldy bread and drink contaminated tap water

>>513183215
You're right that most people don't use these programs because they're inconvenient, but that wasn't my point. In fact, that reinforces my point, which was that IF there is this supposed market where loads of money can be made repairing cheap electronic consumer goods that have broken, why are there no repairers BUYING broken cheap consumer shit to repair and resell? Like I said, all we really have are these recyclers which don't pay shit and are inconvenient to get to because they can't afford to run collection programs.

>>513177410 (OP)
its these men over there!

>>513177711
185*
cry mutt

>>513177709
It's all literally adult daycare.
Get a job and wage 9 to 5: that's the basic daycare, nothing fancy.
Live of what's been already done, work a day per week or something like that to maintain society, meanwhile study shit, do social work, be engaged in the community, practice your arts... That's the Montessori adult daycare

>>513184386
>If we redistributed the 1%'s wealth
Distributed among 8 billion people, this would be around 25K per person. A complete equal redistribution of ALL global wealth would result in around 50K per person.

>>513181038
actually there's 150 million things that can be done but that's where you come in, just be sure to actually "do it" when things reverse so we all get a decent chance at our own kinds's future

>>513177410 (OP)
To think my vote has the same value as one from people this retarded.

>>513177410 (OP)
Once you reject Jewish Capitalism and the Psychology that supports it life instantly becomes easy. You realise that you "need" very little and can just saunter about.

>>513185376
all you need is islam eh?
fuckin animal

>>513177410 (OP)
All these leftists always fall short of blaming jews aka international capitalism, and they always think that you can have a world without work which is ridiculous maybe in few hundred years and even then you're gonna need to control whatever machines there are to do the necessary work.

They'll always also advocate for communism instead of national socialism because they don't want to live with their own people and build their own shit, they want to live in White countries

>>513185794
Muzzies dont bend the knee to jews and their lapdogs you retarded fucking nigger. They rise up and fight, look at the middle east. Why do you think kikes are scared of them? Its only easy because they have weapons and the other side does not. All the revolutionary larp amerimutt speak and write of on xitter is what arabs and niggers do irl. What do white people do? Turn cheeks like a bunch of fucking cucked slaves. We were not like this, it all changed after the second world war.

>>513177410 (OP)
Energy is the key, oil and other sources, the western European elite scheme to keep it expensive in collaboration with some Americans and others. Drastically cheaper energy prices would set in motion so much advancement that they could no longer contain it and the old money and Jewish elite would forever lose control over humanity

>>513185794
regardless of that anon's race, he is right.
captcha : basedyk

>>513177410 (OP)
If she was one of the 8 would she redistribute her wealth?

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74 retards replied to a 1pbtid slide thread. 47 of them were stupid enough to directly (You) the op

>>513188072
no person thinking that capitalism is the opposite of communism can be right anon
one is a form of economic organization (compare it to central planning) and the other is a political system (compare it to either nationalism or monarchy/feudalism)
what do you teach you in Danish schools, Mehmet?!
>>513187417
go to sleep Ali you are drunk

>>513177410 (OP)
>our ancestors broke down their bodies to build all this shit
So it should be fine if all this prosperity were only distrubuted and shared amongst the people of a nation who are actually direct decendents of those people and immigrants get precisely jack shit then right? =^)

>>513177410 (OP)
Yeah it's nothing to do with half the "humans" on the planet being little more than animals.

>>513177410 (OP)
Imagine how much more resources there would be if tnd

>>513180888
I make 75k and support my family of 5. You underestimate the diversity here because you're a close minded retard who can't read two paragraphs.

>>513178879
You're trying to sound smarter than someone who's speaking on a feeling and you do it speaking on a feeling too. You're just as retarded as her.
Now have some facts:
>There's more housing units then families in most western countries, but housing prices keep going up
>Food production is so efficient it's subsidized because the margins are too low and competition too easy. This is how Japan has a rice shortage this year. To many people branched off making biofuels, derivatives and cattle feed formulations. You can buy 1 year worth of calories for 80$ on the international market.
>Vintage goods in the last 20 years in the west got so cheap that used good stores exploded due to having low prices and endless supply. You can buy end of production Bavarian ceramics for a few bucks, while a pack of garbage cups on Amazon will cost more just to be worth delivering it. Now these stores caught up with inflation because initially waves of failures were caused by low margins and high turnover. (The goods were too cheap are plentiful.)
>Planned obsolescence is everywhere for the very simple reason it is trivial to produce goods that last decades and are trivial to repair.

In short we already live in an post-scarcity with only labor worth anything, so the economy is artificially created to lower labor price and artificially inflate goods and assets.

>>513184772
That would be enough for me to buy a house, preferably with a garage and then pick up my hobby of fixing cars and I could make that into my life.
Instead I can't afford shit and have to break my back at a warehouse that doesn't care if you get injured as you're replaceable by another ignorant school student that wants to start a life and in turn get ruined the same way. The cycle continues

>>513190090
>There's more housing units then families in most western countries, but housing prices keep going up
Do only families live in housing units? Do only families want to live in housing units? Are all housing units equally desirable? Does this statistic include dwellings that are technically housing units but in reality would require hundreds of thousands of dollars to make livable?
>Food production is so efficient it's subsidized because the margins are too low and competition too easy. This is how Japan has a rice shortage this year. To many people branched off making biofuels, derivatives and cattle feed formulations. You can buy 1 year worth of calories for 80$ on the international market.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here or how it's contrary to anything I said. I never denied that a surplus of food is produced in absolute terms.
>Vintage goods in the last 20 years in the west got so cheap that used good stores exploded due to having low prices and endless supply. You can buy end of production Bavarian ceramics for a few bucks, while a pack of garbage cups on Amazon will cost more just to be worth delivering it. Now these stores caught up with inflation because initially waves of failures were caused by low margins and high turnover. (The goods were too cheap are plentiful.)
Another baffling nothing of a statement. What are you on about?
>Planned obsolescence is everywhere for the very simple reason it is trivial to produce goods that last decades and are trivial to repair.
This is the most feelings-based claim in the entire thread.

>>513177410 (OP)
now if only such posts had thousand of replies "stop hating Rothschilds - they did nothing wrong", "stop with the anti-semitism, delete your post, I've reported it to the police" and other such stuff by the thousands.
sigh.

>>513190529
Maybe if you developed an actual useful skill, you wouldn't be in a warehouse job.

>>513183544
only true post