Thread 513917003

they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens

https://www.dw.com/en/german-welfare-state-can-no-longer-be-financed-merz/a-73742270

>SPD
small penis department?

Yes ,but more importantly can they still take care of the pisslamist invaders?

Who cares about the German European Citizens!

>>513917003 (OP)
Deutschneets on Selbstmordüberwachung

>>513917131
SPeDs.
Special Education

>>513917003 (OP)
Absolute clown world shit, of course they can't afford millions of fucking niggers and mudslimes! Fucking kikes

>>513917003 (OP)
Accelerate.

what a disaster

>>513917003 (OP)
In ancient Roman they had the grain allotment. Only the male head of the house and the first born son were eligible for it. Think how that would change the current state of affairs.

>>513917003 (OP)
80% of all unemployment benefits are used by non germans.. what he means is that the third world he and his party the cdu has imported have robbed germany blind and now germans on top of having paid for all of it wont have anything left for themselves.
In a fair world the entire cdu party would be dragged out into the streets and beaten to death.

>>513917365
It's about boomer pensions

>>513917244
of course. importing and feeding niggers for the jews is germany's only true purpose now and no expense is to high even if it means to get rid of the welfare state and to starve native germans.

Every time a State tells you it cannot "finance" something -- it is lying to you. Governments create money -- they can always finance anything. They can run out of things to buy, which would be inflationary, but they cannot run out of money.

Of course things are a bit different in Euroland since those fucking retards kept national budgets while adopting a supranational currency and central bank.

>>513917003 (OP)

How very Weimar of them....I wonder what happens next?

>>513917425
yes you stupid faggot the germans that work and with their taxes have paid for massmigration now wont have any money left for themselves

>>513917003 (OP)
No wonder they're making citizenship by ancestry easier

>>513917003 (OP)
MEIN FUHRER WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

>>513917447
glad i dont live in euroland

It's getting fucking worse. Why couldn't I have been born when things were good...

>>513917003 (OP)
Brother the whole world is collapsing it's not just an isolated incident

>>513917003 (OP)
USAID really affected the eurotrash welfare kweens, too bad not my problem maybe your muzzys will pitch in.

>>513917499
They want boomer pension cuts, its debatable how much boomers worked for their pensions you sister fucking Schluchtenscheißer.

>>513917003 (OP)
nonsense, they just need to tax native germans even more

>>513917613
you think they will cut the money of german pensionrs or the third worlders social benefit scams they have massimported.
Come on speak up you retarded imbecile

>>513917567
>It's getting fucking worse. Why couldn't I have been born when things were good...
I caught the tail end, it's almost worse having a glimpse of pre-hell America

>>513917499
>>513917613
i told you so kek

>>513917003 (OP)
Imagine being in Greece or others in the EU when your union's piggybank is getting shaken.

I think this is a play behind the whole ID push as much as anything else. When European governments will not be able to offer generous welfare yet still require high taxes and still express contempt and hostility to their voters opinions it's grounds for discontent and public anger.

https://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/country-guide/expat-taxes-in-germany/
It appears that German tax rates are 42% above 66k euros, and 14-42% in 11k to 66k euros. Let's say you're in the higher rate of that latter bracket, so something like 38%. On top of a church tax (holy shit that exists?) of 8-9%, a VAT tax of 19%, and 7% on food and books. Someone being taxed that much if not given the most generous social welfare state imaginable is being treated like a slave. It actually makes me appreciate the US where yes you have to pay out the nose for healthcare costs but odds are around that 66k Euro to USD area you make out better in the US.

This is all amateur back of the napkin shit from a retard like me, so a proper German or financial expert can chime in with more exacting details. But like I said I think the increasing authoritarianism of ostensibly liberal Western states is more because they know they will be having to relinquish a lot of carrots in the future, and when you have high taxes low legitimacy low social spending you are in a situation that no government can survive without coercive power. IE think of Saudi Arabia or Algeria without welfare oil bux.

>>513917003 (OP)
>they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens

They can, but most right leaning governments don't want to, because they don't care about citizens, they only care about capital.

>>513917003 (OP)
oy vey, how can this happen? who could've foreseen this??

>>513917686
I was there this summer. Small ocean side community in New England. 99.9% white. Wealthy. It was like a dream.
Republicans and Democrats have VANDALIZED this country.

They'll cut funding to heritage natural born blood germans before they cut it to their precious fecaloid personal army of invaders and rapists.

>>513917613
Yeah fuck those elderly white people, put them in a nursing home with a bunch of abusive niggers with a healthcare system that puts them on an endless unnecessary expensive healthcare routine until they die to maximize the amount of people you can have employed, which are all going to be browns here pretty soon

>>513917003 (OP)
>they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens
Did they ever?

>>513917003 (OP)
It was all a scam, one generation of Germans lived comfortably off the backs of the younger generations, then for some reason unleashed immigrants to genocide the younger generations because it wasn't enough to simply exploit them for money.

>>513917849
Citizens would be capital if the government was properly organized rather than shitty democracy.

>>513917244
It’s weird that a fellow Canadian would say this shit. Our hospitals are crumbling at the sheer weight of the Indian poo… they are slowly disabling our welfare system.

>>513917003 (OP)
Someone please help me with my national budget I'm barely making ends meet:
>$10 in police funding to help them solve violent crime
>$15 for critical infrastructure the nation can't survive without
>$44 billion in welfare for immigrants that will never contribute any tax revenue
Please help my economy is insolvent I have no idea how this happened

You fucking RETARDS the whole pitch for migration was "theyl pay our pensions" that means there WAS ALREADY gonna be an inevitable pension crisis due to population projections of SLUTS NOT BIRTHING.
So naturally you retarded retards blame the (predictable) failed remedy rather than the cause

>>513917969
>for some reason unleashed immigrants to genocide the younger generations
No what happened was a huge population boom after the war. Countries had many young people and the old people had all been through 2 wars, and a Great Depression and spent their entire lives smoking and drinking and died at 62 on average.
So they concocted these generous pension systems for retirees and promised the boomers they’d get their turn to spend their “golden years” sipping margaritas in Florida. But the boomers had half as many kids as they needed to and their kids had half as many kids as they needed to in order to keep this Ponzi scheme afloat. And then the boomers lived way too long because they got proper medical care and only smoked for 20 years instead of 50 and only had 5 drinks a day instead of 15.
None of it is sustainable. The olds would need to be culled systematically without immigration. But they are the most acting voting block.

as always the problem is democracy. It’s a race to the bottom where the only way to be in the government is to enforce popular policies that are a complete disaster because the average dumb fuck knows as much about government as they do about nuclear physics or neurosurgery.

>>513917003 (OP)
are you telling me the towel heads, dot heads, and bulb heads aren't producing enough to sustain themselves and the rest of the native populations?

>>513918133
whites were hoping for a plantation, spice economy. where we get whipped collecting cotton while they season their steaks with spices in their plantation mansions
instead they loss their jobs, culture and the economy they didn't even take seriously to save. whites are done man

>>513918396
Just bullshit piled on top of bullshit.

Government spending is never constrained by revenue. Governments create money when they spend. Cash is the easiest part of this equation -- there is no theoretical limit on it, ever.

Is there enough stuff to buy to meet the population's needs? That is the relevant question.

>>513918480
>Whites
>It's Germany
>not even Britain or the USA
>plantations and spices
You're like those faggots who shit on the Scottish and Irish for being "oppressors".

>>513917613
more than the third world scum you idiots have imported

>>513918133
This is for welfare not pension.

>>513917613
I make €8500 pretax per month and I get a letter every year stating I’ll receive €2300 per month (pre tax) for my retirement. What a fucking joke of a country

pay your debts, goymans

>>513917447
TPBP

>>513917003 (OP)
Kick out the Americans, leave Nato, stop funding military, and close the borders.

>>513918396
>And then the boomers lived way too long because they got proper medical care and only smoked for 20 years instead of 50 and only had 5 drinks a day instead of 15.
lying scumbag boomer, the government did every nook and cranny as their job required em to do
you pampared slobs waste it all away. your white kids are bums and worse off. the government in your era didn't do anything wrong. you fucked up in every possible way just like your nu-baby boomers in china right now
Post Poverty generations are complete morons

>>513918765
>Kick out the Americans,
The Americans pay them to be there.
>leave Nato,
NATO is Germany's best customer? That'd bankrupt their arms industry.
>stop funding military,
Same issue, as well as other issues if you gut your military.

>>513917447
This. Everything here is correct.

Thing is that Germany has taken so many refugees and what not that suck the money out of the entire system. They dont manage to become a part of society regardless of how many years they live there.

Germany do have money, but they are going to cut it because its such a clusterfuck with their major corporations with stocks falling and a military that need a ton of money. And they are going to cut the welfare system so they can put the money into the arms industry instead.

>>513917003 (OP)
They’re saying they can no longer violate their citizens rights with socialism. It’s being liberated commie.

>>513917003 (OP)
This will activate the shitskins to be extremely violent.

>>513917003 (OP)
>USA stops USAID
>suddenly Eurotrash countries can no longer afford gibs for their citizens
OOOOH! I'M NOTICING!!!
Guess you guys can no longer boast about having a better welfare system than the USA kek

>>513917847
The thing about current politicians is they are fundamentally insecure people who can't handle their ego being bruised, so they want to reorder the internet and ensure that they are hold how great they are all the time and face no criticism.

>>513918938
What I'm saying, stop paying old weapons like Tomahawk missiles which Russia can shoot down.
Even the mutts are phasing out the for hypersonic missiles.
This is what mutts always do, sell you overpriced weapons and develop your own shit if possible.
Unless you're planning to use against Third World countries, otherwise useless against a real military powerhouse

>>513919132
>Guess you guys can no longer boast about having a better welfare system than the USA kek
kek, there was no better welfare system than us

>>513917003 (OP)
They are just gonna change the laws to make welfare illegal to white people, retirement included. Germany needs more violent brown people at all costs.

>>513917377
She likely fucked him later

Simp deserved it. Protect your family and friends that’s it.

>>513919513
>stop paying old weapons like Tomahawk missiles which Russia can shoot down.
Germany isn't, they're considering it but the primary missiles they have are Taurus KEPD 350 and they are upgrading into the JFS-M. Also Russia's AD is kind of shit, and the US is not phasing out cruise missiles for hypersonic missiles, they are developing them in combination with subsonic cruise missiles.
>otherwise useless against a real military powerhouse
Germany's most immediate threat is Russia, and they're not a very modernized military.

And again, the German's cruise missile is the Taurus KEPD 350, they're also developing the HOPE/HOSBO missiles both are made domestically with the TAURUS being a MBDA/Bofors project with the Swedes.

>>513917003 (OP)
>>Brought millions shitskins.
>>Germany welfare collapse

Couldn’t they figure it out that is related

>immigrants good because the GDP went up
>btw we ran out of money for the old people who vote for us xD

>>513920069
Germany wasn't Russia's enemy until they revealed their hand. The Minsk "agreements" were never about peace; they were a calculated lie to buy time. Time to pump our taxpayer money into building Ukraine into a NATO proxy army right on Russia's border. We didn't create a partner; we manufactured a battleground.

>>513920628
>Germany wasn't Russia's enemy until they revealed their hand
No, Russia has been the anticipated adversary since NATO was formed.

>>513920335
Well the same problem is in Canada and United States they laundered all our tax money and moved all the factories overseas.
None is start family and kids these days want to become YouTubers or onlyfans whores

>>513920705
Because NATO (Jews) was full control of the world, they're now expanding in the East with AUKUS with South Korea and Japan.
Wars are excepted erupt in your era too

>>513920853
>Because NATO (Jews) was full control of the world,
No it's because the USSR acted like fucking retards at the end and post WW2.

>>513920924
US and Europe acted like retards

This shit is going to end so badly for the perpetrators and they are suicidally egging it on. How many times do they need to learn this less? Maybe it's time for a truly final solution. Technology makes that easy to do now.
>they're going to use it on you!
At first, yeah. But when you allow that kind of entropy into the system you can bet that chaos theory will come along and fuck you in the ass.

>>513917946
those elderly white people are literally the reason the niggers are there
it's boomers who vote for populists and nigger lovers because they pay their pensions
no niggers = no workforce = fuck off, grandpa

>>513917003 (OP)
And what are Germans going to do about it? Let me guess, not a damn thing? Am I close?

>>513917003 (OP)
the milind complex want ze money and israel needs supplies

>>513917397

The sooner the state collapses, the sooner they can deal with the violent browns.

>>513917003 (OP)
>their own citizens
Yeah, about that.

>>513917003 (OP)
>surely we can just absolutely ream the people that actually make society function and import infinity savage retards that don't work forever

>>513917425
>It's about boomer pensions
fuck you guys are gullible
wake up, Hans-Ulrich

Time to eat the refugees.

>>513917003 (OP)
We collapsed them in 1945.
The wagies still showed up on time.

>>513917003 (OP)
Sneaky roundabout way to get rid of the migrants without saying they're going to get rid of them because turns out young men aren't going to go fight Russia for liberal multicultural countries.

>>513917397
>the third world he and his party the cdu has imported have robbed germany blind and now germans on top of having paid for all of it wont have anything left for themselves.

the third world he and his party the cdu has imported have robbed germany blind and now germans on top of having paid for all of it wont have anything left for themselves.

>the third world he and his party the cdu has imported have robbed germany blind and now germans on top of having paid for all of it wont have anything left for themselves.

bears repeating, no?

Steelmaning the libtard argument for migroids: some of them genuinely thought these third world apes would learn German, assimilate, and become gainfully employed. But 10 years later, 80% are still on welfare and have become an even bigger burden than boomers because of their crime rates. They won't back down because being a libtard means never admitting that you were wrong.

>>513922673
>The wagies still showed up on time.
The trains don't any longer tho
Wonder what's next?

>>513917003 (OP)
>they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens

The word is "publicly", and, no, that is not what the German chancellor is saying. What he is saying is essentially, "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country".

raising taxes for millionairs and up by 4% would fix all of ot, but our jewish leaders would never do that

as an american seeing the welfare state that yurostanis have been bragging about for decades finally collapse is going to be peak entertainment. the fact that the immigrants that they love so much are the straw that breaks the camel's back makes it even better. have fun hans I'm going to be laughing.

>>513917003 (OP)
Good. Help it out. Apply for welfare.

>>513923234
Fantastic insight, please post more.

>>513922827
Sweden is far worse, they said 3% of nigger invaders ever bothered getting a job

which sounds about right given we especially know about niggers in the US, and how utterly ignorant those ivory tower libshits are

>>513917613
Bet they won't cut jewish pensions though, all that fake holocaust pension delight.

>>513917377
yeah, "harassing." more like this incel retard though he'd "save" her from the somalis or turks she was actively flirting with. 100% she banged a migrant that same night while this moron was recovering in ICU

Accelerationist win

>>513923214
>"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country"
another plagiarized line btw

>>513924116
meds

>>513917447
>Governments create money -- they can always finance anything.

Good luck with that.

Neets and boomers can starve for all i care

A reform is long overdue, but knowing these clowns they will cut at only the wrong places, boomers are the cdus biggest voter group

>>513917003 (OP)
Western social systems worked on honesty. Third worlders have no concept of honesty and take every penny and bleed the system dry. Their entire lifestyle in India/Pakistan etc is to scam and thieve from each other.

>>513917244
There will always be money for jews and their muslim bioweapons.

If welfare cannot be financed anymore maybe make it so that people can earn a living from working instead

>>513917003 (OP)
Send more money to Ukraine

>>513919132
USAID was restarted ages ago. Like nothing happened.
And USAID doesn't fund welfare. Its for NGOs, bribes, subversion operations, coups, protests etc.

>>513917849
It's about the new military budget Mmerz wants. As someone once said about Britain, you can have a great navy, or a pensions system, you can't have both. In our case we sacrificed having a navy to feed worthless old shitbags so they could live to 85 for no apparent reason when they would naturally die 10 years earlier if they had to pay their own way and not defer their costs onto working age people. Germans have a dogshit military and the wealthiest retired scum on Earth. Fuck migrants, but migrants are the distraction the retired use while they steal the wealth of the nation so they can watch TV for 18 hours a day as functional alcoholics with all the medical tech going on extending their fucking parasitic existence as long as possible. Its fucking morbid. No one wants to have kids when society is full of migrants and these disgusting human corpses walking around everywhere that won't fuck off and die. Anyone that separates migrants and pensioners has Stockholm Syndrome: they are both the enemy, only the retired are worse as they are traitors.

>>513918133
Yet it was clear as a day since the 90s that the immigrants won't do that and instead rely on gibs and create a parallel society. And STILL this shit was pushed up until last few years. If people would have accepted the facts 30 years ago and sought alternative solutions, Europe would be a much safer place.

what can I do to help a Holocaust Survivor? where do I send the check?

So much for germany plan to put 1 trillion spending on rearming military.

>>513917003 (OP)
It's funny because everything they'll now do, just makes AfD stronger.

>>513917003 (OP)
>we have to import niggers to pay for your elderly
>it costs too much to support the niggers
classic, superb, absolutely blown up in the face excellence

>>513917003 (OP)
>billions for Weapons
>billions for Banks (CumEx)
>billions for other lobby bullshit

>noo we have no more money for the common people

>>513926431
Anon....this was the plan all along...nothing is blowing up in their faces. The real people in power are not surprised by that development. They did this. On purpose.
Now they have an explanation for the things to come.

>>513917003 (OP)
Fun fact: 19 in 20 NAFOs are long-term unemployed and unhirable.

>>513924296
Plaese tell me you are vaxxed. Please.

>>513917377
>nigger got rekd
Very good. I hope the dies. He should have stayed in his negro village in America, where he belongs.

>>513918765
This. The Americans are parasites. Remove them and Europe will recover.

>>513917003 (OP)
yes, go back

>>513926318
Good! The only future a German Germany has is with AFD.

>>513927055
Jew detected.

>>513926443
>Money for the common people
All welfare is ultimately corporate. Welfare recipients are those unable to save, invest, or otherwise use the money they are given to better their lot in life. Instead they consume, they buy product, and that money flows back into the hands of the corporate kikes. The job of the welfare recipient to spend money that the productive classes would have otherwise saved or invested in bettering their lot in life.

The idea that the shabbos Kraut government would deliberately cut welfare spending when it directly benefits their (((masters))) is kind of silly once you think about it.
>Now they have an explanation for the things to come.
You seem to think the elite need realistic or even plausible excuses for the things that they do. They can just lie and most normiecattle will believe them or at the very least not seriously challenge the lie.

>>513917003 (OP)
Of wow, I'd thouht all those migrant would prop it up - that why they were imported, supposedly.
What happened? Did they all go on welfare only adding to the burden or something?

>>513919957
Said like a true chink!

>>513917425
ah yes zoomie, be a good goy retard and keep telling yourself that, next they are going to go for whatever pensions you could still get, and you will still be bitching about boomers, and when they move on to remove government funded healthcare, you will still bitching about those evil boomers.

Sorry we cannot support your welfare state anymore by buying your shit to the tune of tens of billions a year, Germoney. All young people jobs are filled with jeets which get everything for free.

>>513917861
Thats retarded. Westerners with debt still soend/can spend more than 3rd worlders.

>>513918480
>letting us inside withe countries is slavery
Westerners are such fools, thinking shitskins are human or have even a shred of decency

>>513927249
Germany is bankrupted by its war against Russia, the German regime is hated by the German people and only a few spending cuts away from open revolt. Just like in 1917, before the Second Empire collapsed and communist rebellions took major cities. Germany is only a few Russian arms shipments away from rebellion now. The lower ranks of police and border guard will side with the rebels.

>>513917847
Church tax is fully optional, but a lot of idiots still pay it.

>>513917263
underrated

>>513917003 (OP)
no shit

>>513917003 (OP)
>sorry but your disabled grandma had to go hungry so we could feed and house islamist men from Africa
I hope that every open border politician gets flayed alive just straight up screaming and horror.

>>513924296
Have you considered killing your government and wearing their skin as masks?

>>513927343
>bitching about boomers
Why shouldn't people bitch? The baby boomers used their power to ensure that boomers would always win at everyone else's expense

>pensions won't be around for zoomers
Exactly. Boomers never elected to reduce spending or massively increase taxes to pay for it, so they receive the benefits while making future generations pay for it.

Nothing wrong with bitching about boomers

>>513917003 (OP)
>>513928344

>>513917003 (OP)
But can they still take care of jews?

>>513917003 (OP)
Fredrik Reinfeldt, the Swedish Prime minister 2006 - 2014 wrote a book were he called for collapsing the welfare state by weaponizing immigration to increase costs.

>>513917003 (OP)
You mean Socialism ran out of other people's money?
Get the fuck out.
Who could have foreseen that?

>>513927189
>You seem to think the elite need realistic or even plausible excuses
For big shifts. Yes. But you are right too. They can make shit up and the NPCs take it.
But one example what i mean:
9/11 was needed to implement the surveilance state worldwide. This event was real. It got used to "explain" to us why we get stripped of our rights and suveiled 24/7. As one example.

And of course the off. narrative is complete BS. But this event was real. This is what i mean.
They flood countries will millions of foreign non working people to use them as explanation for the things to come.
Creating the problem, offer solutions, enslave the people. And make it so, that they hate each other.
Simple. But worked for probably millenia.

>>513928667
Vaxxed?

>>513917861
For a decade old post, it's as true as if it was written yesterday.

>>513917003 (OP)
Cant pay out gibs money for infinite niggers, jeets and muslims? Wow, nobody ever would have guessed that this would happen.

>>513917003 (OP)
>>513928344

>>513917003 (OP)
give more to jewkraine
Satan blesses those who bless the jews

>>513917003 (OP)
kick out some turks and afghans... you'll see you easily find the money for the real Germans.

>>513917003 (OP)
This is by design. A three part plan:
1. Fill your country with fighting age muslims
2. Make them hungry

The welfare cut is mostly due to the rise of military expense. It's a EU policy to cut of welfare for ukraine.

>>513927055
> entrusting the future to politicians
ngmi

>>513927055
>The only future a German Germany has is with AFD
...

Translation for poltards
>Sorry goyim your money is gone.
>Here's 30 million niggers.
>Good luck.

>>513917131
worse, it's socialists.

>>513917003 (OP)
Plenty of billions for Ukraine and reparations to Israel though.

>>513917447
>Governments create money
Which decreases the worth of the money which gives the illusion that everything gets more expensive which is called inflation.

>>513928278
Don't forget that out of this 30% "indigenous" people in welfare probably 25% are first and third generation immigrants.

>>513917131
>>513930566
just in case it's not clear enough, that race traitor was SPD, so was Scholz if anyone remembers, AND the dude who started it all in 2008 by saying "let our NEETs get bullied to get a job so we can push wages down lmao" where we basically did infinity niggers with white trash, later to be supplied with actual brown people, which caused the current wave of right wing-support because they "took our jerbs" i.e. parcel driver and cleaning toilets.

>>513930566
People like you are so retarded. SPD+Greens did Hartz IV (under Schröder) which was the biggest cut in social security after 45.

>muuhu Socialism
Trottel. These labels have NO meaning. They are ALL criminals. No matter the color.

>>513917490
we got another 8 years to 33, and they REALLY try to sell the idea that AfD will actually do what Hitler did (they won't lmao jewish assets) and whether it works or not is the big question.
They're doing Weimar again but seem to rake in the depravity this time.

>>513924256
>>513930625
general populace will claim they understand it but if prices stay stable for 1-2 weeks they already forgot about it because yoga is more important or whatever.
This is PRECISELY what is happening since 1971 and in overdrive since 2008 (yeah that never ended, see picrel), and thanks to finance and politics throwing wordsalad at the public there is no focussed awareness.
"It can't be that easy."
"I'm not paid to look into this so I won't"
"they'll have thought about this"

>>513917003 (OP)
>Is collapsing
Son, Germany has been collapse since 1946. Its just been surviving since 1946.
The last 30 years its been dying.

There hasn't been hope for Germany since they lost the war.
There is no saving it. Its over. Its been over.
The jews have embedded themselves into the roots of all German society since 1945.
The fourth reich will not come from Germany.
Germany will NEVER rise again. It is well passed the point of salvation.
It is impossible for them to get rid of the Jews, the sand niggers, the niggers and the gypsies.
The only way would be the total proliferation of the entire country of Germany.
It is over.

Whats more is Germany for the last 20 years has been forcing Europe to take in, accept, tolerate, and allow the jew and his lies, and the flood gates of muslims and niggers and the abolishment of all sense of Christendom, free speech, and patriotism.

Its over. Its dead.
There is no hope for Germany. It is ground zero of the jew and the muslim horde.

I'm tired of every year someone posting "Germany is collapsing".
We know, we've known, it is nothing new. Its been gone for ages.

>>513926181
hahaha noooo that one's still ongoing.
No, really.
Because for that we'll go into delicious debt which the boomers won't pay anymore, so the voooots are secured.

>>513931248
Thats a map of all mosques in Germany btw

Just tax the wagecucks more, what Timmy gone do?

>>513927249
>Did they all go on welfare only adding to the burden or something?
to precisely nobody's surprise, /pol/ was right.

>>513917003 (OP)
Global Great Depression in 2026? KEKLMAO END TIMES ARE HERE

>>513927823
never forget they did that shit 2 months after the election with the old parliament still in place

>>513930740
it's not about the label, but about the implications.
Socialists are known for doing the opposite of what their label says in German Governments for over 100 years at this point.

Eventually, someone else's money runs out.

>>513930993
Food, shelter and water are the most basic needs. All else is filter.

>>513919513
>Even the mutts are phasing out the for hypersonic missiles.
LOL, the Amerimutts are years away from fielding hypersonic missiles.

>>513931248
Rabbi, the sun is almost breaking there. Best get back to your casket.

>>513931319
Buildings can be burned. It's not that difficult.

>>513917003 (OP)
At least they are admitting it, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands and others are going to do the same because the 5% requirement for NATO means that we can't have a welfare state

Hmm what is the solution to this?

>>513931812
Solution is doubling down because mistakes cannot be admitted in modern world.

>>513923892
a weston price post on 4chan?? damn.. wish more people knew..

>>513918621
Why would you keep receiving the same amount of money if you are no longer working. Pensionists are morally and fiscally braindead.

>>513931738
So, NATO was leeching off America? You guys should've been more grateful, if that was the case

>>513917003 (OP)
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.

>>513917613
Boomers still had a deal and now they are getting stolen from it.

>>513917003 (OP)
>their own citizens
of syrians, afghans and somalis

>>513926774
>hurrr durrr Americans go away. I wanna be free to get cucked by africans, muslims and jeets in my own country in peace

>>513932159
>the powers that be are here to stay
this is propaganda from the powers that be. england said the same in the American colonies. every Power that Be's can be destroyed.

>>513919132
Mexican intellectuals

>>513931628
they're working hard on eliminating Shelter.
Cities is where the wagecuck jobs are, city centers are either owned by big corpos (Vonovia etc. i.e. BlackRock) or private landlords who are increasingly pressured to sell their shit with infinite money while also driving cost for renovations up to infinity because BlackRock doesn't give a shit if it spends 10k€ or 100k€, so the tradies, fucked by taxes, price accordingly.
If you have an opening for a flat in Hamburg for instance, you get 200 people wanting to see it. They need to send in their entire fucking CV, Credit Score (Schufa, i.e. good goy points) and write a nice letter to even get considered.
Homelessness is visibly rising.

>>513931628
also it doesn't help that the rent for Goymen for 60m2 here is now 1400€
I'm in my 14th year of wage slavery and have ~3000€s at the end of the month to spend, just for comparison, and that's graduate money. Beginners and low-wage make maybe 2000€

>>513932672
by which I am saying, we can't compete with shitskins who landlords obviously PREFER because they know they can pull ANY money, the state pays for it anyways.

>>513917003 (OP)
thats fucked i was trying to figure out how to immo there and welfare

>>513917131

fitting

send ahmed and his 4 kid wives and his 30 family members on welfare watching tv and talking bullshit all day BACK TO THEIR DUMPSTER DESERT COUNTRIES AND MAGICALLY SEE GERMONEY RECOVER.

FUCK ISLAM. ALLAH SUCK MY TOES

>>513917003 (OP)
>Even all the doctors and engineers couldn't save it
This must be really bad then
Maybe the economics guys are still in mud hut Cambodia

>>513917377
Did they make him a jew to punish him?

>>513917003 (OP)
>Germany is collapsing
Two more weeks?

>>513917375
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>>513917613
>Schluchtenscheißer
Did you just called him "dumb"?

>>513917003 (OP)
>they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens
Oh noo what will I do without all that welfare moneys? Does that mean I need to get a *gulp* job?

>>513931248
>>513931319
inaccurate map from like 10 years ago, it's worse now. This is prior to the Afghan sandbox friends that America dumped on us.

>>513917003 (OP)
anon they were bragging about this in march
https://www.ft.com/content/37053b2b-ccda-4ce3-a25d-f1d0f82e7989

>>513931199
Exactly! They will make all kinds of advanced explanations for why its happening to hide how simple it is. We should start repeating this and informing people about it. Post it everywhere so people understand

>>513917003 (OP)
>give foreigners/foreigners billions of euros for free
>give ukraine billions of euros for free
>industry/big money leaving germany because of high taxes
>high skill individuals leaving germany because of high taxes
h-how did this happen???

>>513917003 (OP)
It's not a surprising thing germany has collapsed so many times but they'll rebuild everything.

>>513918480
It was more like they wanted coolies who depress wages, work hard and allow less productive welfare economies for Europeans to compete with the Chinese. And that is what they got, but it encouraged everyone living in some barren village in the Sahara to rush to get in on the deal, and now you have shantytowns of desperados across Europe. Turns out if you want to be an aristocrat you have to put up with peasantry, who knew.
Here we deal with that by not letting them become citizens at all.

>>513917244
Exactly. The boomers should have their pensions cut so that Syrian doctors and engineers can get paid €5000 a month tax free.

>>513917003 (OP)
unironically one of the only ways we could somehow get rid of most of the sandniggers here who are already citizens while doing reformism in the current system rather than revolution, because our last commie cuck government handed out citizenship like it was candy on halloween and even the most based party that could get in power in the BRD can't deport citizens without radically changing the constitution and basically forming an entirely new nation with new constitution that isn't the legal successor of the current BRD anymore.
Basically:
>be germany
>invite a quintillion niggers into europe / germany
>let them import their families drawn and financed by gibs
>give them german citizenship, therefore EU citizenship in the Schengen Area, they can move to every EU country as they like.
>kill the german economy with enviromentalism and socialism
>stop all gibs
>the welfare leeches flee like rats do a sinking ship
>spreading over the rest of the schengen area of countries doing slightly better economically
>stop enviromentalist retardation and start fixing economy
>niggers want to come back
>leave EU and close the borders
>LMAO, now you have all the niggers we imported, get germ'd.

>>513930625
Whenever I hear that governments can just print as much money as they like it makes my piss boil.
No, no they can't.
This whole debacle has been a giant wealth transfer starting decades ago and increasing beginning in 2008 with the bank bailouts. They imported the third world to overload the welfare state, bring down living standards and consolidate wealth at the top.
The migrants have to spend money on goods and services like everyone else does and the people who provide those services are the ones making the profits. It's a pyramid scheme.

>>513917003 (OP)
>they are publically admitting they can no longer take care of their own citizens
the kike pic related is right
stop inviting the whole world and giving them free gibs you fucking niggers

>>513928278
>65% of total

>>513917567
such a retarded opinion, you are not starving, you are not cold living in the streets and you will probably live a long life.

>>513917003 (OP)
Will raising income tax to 70% not solve this issue? It's not like Germutts will riot or anything

>>513934111
yeah, it was written by a germ

>>513917447
theres no such thing as a free lunch you retarded faggot.

yes they can print 'money' and 'pay' for everything, but then you get robbed blind with inflation and before you know it you and your children are living like fucking pathetic thirdies

>>513917003 (OP)
>>513933362
We call it "grünes Wirtschaftswunder" (green economic miracle). People got what they voted for. Don't you love democracy?

>>513917490
Kek, good one. It's the 20's again and they're doing Weimar again that's fucking funny actually

>>513934176
just because the government raises the nominal tax rate doesn't mean people pay it.

>>513918133
BASED

>>513934330
How can you not pay the income tax on your salary? It gets taken automatically from the employer. Yeah just work under the table washing dishes or become a NEET lmao.

anyone who didnt birth at least 2 children shouldnt get a pension anyway.

being a complete failure to sustain society should mean you suffer tremendously in your old age

>>513930625
If the money created is channeled to productive infrastructure that creates more goods and services, it's not inflationary. Read Richard Werner -- he's a good German so maybe you'll listen to him instead of the MMT crowd (who say basically the same thing).

>>513917447
>They can run out of things to buy, which would be inflationary
like cheap zigger gas?

>>513930566
Killing roasties is worth more than gold

>>513934561
They can't do that because someone blew up their braaaaap pipe. How does American LNG at 10x the price sound?

>>513933895
>No, no they can't just print as much money as they like
[Citation Needed]

>>513934416
>only women with kids get pensions

>>513934405
bürgergeld + schwarzarbeit and youll live better than any doctor in germany.

>>513934624
10x the price 10x the welfare cut, how does my formula sound?

>>513933731
Nice fantasy, Germutt. Here is what will happen: you get taxed harder every year and more muslims come to Germuttney every year until they take over.

>>513934650
don't forget the kindergeld

>>513917003 (OP)
>Sorry! We spent all your money on niggers and brownoid subhumans
The worst timeline

>>513934650
schwarzarbeit macht frei

>>513917244
>flag
write what you know

>>513917003 (OP)
This only concerns neets though? They'll cut off neets and even the disabled before they touch niggers kek

>>513934124
>but muh hungry niggers
Soviet era boomer mentality, preople like you are no different than cattle

>>513934258
Come with us September 10th we take Europe back

>>513934712
I prefer kinder surprise cause mutts can't have it

>>513934817
I prefer September 11th cause mutts can't forget it

>>513917003 (OP)
We have the exact same thing at the exact same time happening in France. It s like the same (((peoples))) are in charge of every western countries. Like we are in some kind of (((occupation))) and the gvt is just a facade. They aren t even being subtle, just one size fits all policies, like (((they))) despise us.

>>513917003 (OP)

It's all rigged. They literally did it to themselves. They switched off their nuclear power.They sanctioned Russia prior to any war for Crimea. They loaded in mass migration. It's literally by design. What's the end game. Why collapse if you aren't at war. What war today with nukes? But they're intent on a collapse to force some other reset. Probably so they can whorship the A.I gods telling them there's more profit somehow. Self inflicted. Ukraine has been a prop and continues to force more bullshit. Even if it stops collapse still occurs at this rate. A rate of self inflicted A.I whorship. They've done it to themselves.

>>513934862
We'll still here the 11th we shut down the country untill things improve

>>513934931
I mean they kinda tried to maintain contact with Russia until someone (Americans/Piggies) blew up their gas pipe lmao. And the retarded normal cattle blamed Russia for it lmao, yeah they blew up their own pipe hurrrrr durrrrrr

>>513917003 (OP)
>perpetual motion machine stops moving
who could have seen this coming?

>>513917003 (OP)
Too many so called Jews, i suppose.

>>513934947
Who's organizing this protest?

>>513917425
Everything seemed to be working fine till recently.

>>513932057
>morally
Your morality is idealogy for slaves, workist

>>513917003 (OP)
in other news: boomer assets will get seized and paid out to privatized care homes employing migrants workers

>>513917003 (OP)
at least they stuck it to pootler

>>513917613
Good, boomgroids voted for this.

>>513917003 (OP)
>muh no money
BULLSHIT
Welfare is only 58 billions per year, aka 4 % Social spendings, boomers pensions are almost 400 billions per year aka 29%
that bald cunt worked for Megacorporations (like Blackrock) and he only cares about Megacorporations and boomers, the rest can die especially the young ones

>>513932057
Pensionists are even bigger leeches than niggers. Here half the country are leeching boomers that spend the day clogging the healthcare system because they're bored, getting everything free on top of their pension and complaining about muzzies ruining the economy despite muzzies being 2% of the population, and so retarded they can't even hold onto gibs.

I don't care if someone here's fond of their boomer grandma, she needs to be dealt with along with the niggers.

>>513932159
>Do not resist! Please!
anything else memeflag?

>>513934994

I cannot understand collapse without war. It normally gets there historically. If you have one the other follows at point. Anyhow they've literally caused it and are forcing it. Ukraine is a prop, it continues to be a prop. And the whole thing is a big con. Why reset unless there's profit. Until inflation is profiting the greediest, the proce is not reflective, the taxes are being thrown at, as debt hits higher. Somehow they still profit anyway. Historically, what this time it's different and history doesn't follow off a larger crash. It's not necessarily immediate but it follows, no, it's just a soft collapse? Not according to that press. It might as well be national guard on the streets. Meanwhile none of them are popular a population in any austerity or collapse flips, changes their vote. It's obviously being herded today into what?

Who cares except nothing good comes from this press or the Eurozone. Of course Ukraine want to drag everybody else into it. So they commit to that anyway and use it for support. Perhaps Europe punishes anybody using the pipeline as it for their agendas.

They do it to themselves today. Why? If they were listening to probable predictive odds tell me those odds on Rachel Reeves?

I feel conflicted. On one hand fuck the unemployed, on the other hand this is all because they kept importing a million + of them each year so it's money that should go to the german citizens.

>>513935310
I'm the only man with wife and kids in my wider family, almost all of them post-war leftist hedonists. I have already signed life annuity and care contracts with two of them, in exchange for their houses. Their friends are getting interested too, because they don't want to spend their last years in an overpriced Polish care home and I and my wife take care of everything. If all goes according to plan, I get a minimum of seven houses out of this. Possibly 12 or more.

>>513917447
>but they cannot run out of money
lol watch romania in 15 more years

>>513917003 (OP)
>their own citizens
does he know?

>>513933084
>muh jerb
You pay taxes to corrupt pedophiles that import feral shitskins

>>513917613
And you think things will be different 30-40 years from now when it's time for you to get your pension (assuming pensions are even still a thing by that point)? They're already coming for people who paid their due with decades of creating wealth for the state in the form of taxes, they're trying to take away what they worked for, including the houses they could pass on to their own children.

>>513917003 (OP)
>got cut off from cheap russia resources
>blown up pipeline by bestest ally
>who is willing to help you by selling gas at 10 times the price of russia
slava ukraini

>>513935695

The odds on a first time woman in the Labour party balancing the books are second to none.

>>513917003 (OP)
American here. The naiveness of Germans (this includes all Germanic tribes/countries btw). All these problems are easily fixed if you Germans have children, but German men and German women do not see that. So enjoy your naïveness and pay for Mohammed and just buy children as I see every day in Berlin.

>>513935843
As long as Romania issues its own sovereign currency then it can't run out of money. Of course, if they have a lot of foreign-denominated debt that complicates matters because they have to acquire the other currency first.

And different countries have different levels of resources available to them within their borders and resources are always the real limit on spending. But in theory, the state can't run out of money.

>>513935971
The global financialized capital will not stop until most of the west is looted dry. But the point will come when it does stop. The future belongs to the survivors. It's up to you to protect your bloodline and your property. The era of fat is over now, the era of bloody struggles begins.

>>513936080
>ooga booga boo
Go back home to your negro village, you parasite. Nobody invited you to Europe.

>>513917003 (OP)
oh yea, we've had this happen quite a few times.
this is whats gonna happen
>we have to fix welfare, its too expensive
>public outcry over not getting free gibs
>we have no idea how to fix welfare,
>also its going to lose us votes, lets forget about it.
>6 weeks later, everyone forgets about it.

screencap this.

>>513936080
It's a self-perpetuating problem. The only native German people I know who have any children at all are on the upper end of middle class. Wealthy enough to provide for a child, move to a safe location, and afford a house and two cars, usually also from decently wealthy backgrounds, where they already know they'll inherit land or a house as well. Everyone else? Either so deep in their leftist bubble cult that the idea of perpetuating their own people as a native German is inherently repulsive to them, or simply cynically looking at their own financial situation and judging a child an expense they can't afford - either literally, or because they wouldn't be able to also move to a neighborhood or more rural town where raising a child isn't a nightmare of having to expose it to urban public schooling.

Basically, the more they fuck up the economy, public security, school systems, and so forth, the less native Germans with a degree of reason will see having children as feasible. This, of course, does not apply to people who don't have to worry about expenses whatsoever.

>>513936263
There is a way to increase spending without increasing the taxes. It's called Quantitative Easing. You force your central bank to buy your treasury bonds and spend the free money on welfare. Everyone has done it during the 2008 crisis and the Covid crisis.

>>513934644
Printing money from nothing creates inflation and devalues the currency making everyone poorer.
It is a device of mass taxation.
The more they print the less the currency is worth.

>>513936286
Excuses. Imagine being so undisciplined with your money that you cannot afford to feed even a single child. Fact is, you're poorer than the North Koreans. But you're too brainwashed to admit how miserable your actual standard of living is under capitalist oligarch rule.

>>513935102
Nobody, it s a stand alone complex.

>>513934931
>But they're intent on a collapse to force some other reset.
Probably to allow antichrist and mark of the beast

>>513936436
>There is a way to increase spending without increasing the taxes.
>It's called Quantitative Easing

>>513934124
Why are Finns so empty inside and soulless?

>>513936594
The pea counters are not allowed to religion. Their job is to hoard money for you. That's what you're paying them for. If they refuse to do what they're told, they go back down to low-wage servant sector hell. Customer service, retail, hospitality.

>>513936513
It's not a question of undisciplined. Sure, let's say you can afford a child. Can you afford two? Can you afford to move out of the urbanized hellhole where your child will be a minority at school? Where you'll have to be afraid for your teenage daughter every time she's out after dark? Can you afford to move into the country and the extra expense of at least two cars, for both you and your wife's commute/general getting around because there's fuckall in public transit?

If you actually worry about your child growing up well and safe, expenses mount very quickly.

>>513936632
Are you new to politics? Nobody finances unpopular policies with new taxes anymore. The public opinion does not like it. But printing more money is always fine. The commoners intuitively knows that more money equals more happiness.

>>513936513
>undisciplined
Discipline is for slaves, self control is for free

>>513936879
>Can you afford two?
lol
yes
Children don't eat much.
>Can you afford to move out of the urbanized hellhole where your child will be a minority at school?
Of course. Why would I even move there in the first place? I'm not an Arab immigrant.
>Where you'll have to be afraid for your teenage daughter every time she's out after dark?
Why would she do that? She's my daughter.
>Can you afford to move into the country and the extra expense of at least two cars, for both you and your wife's commute/general getting around because there's fuckall in public transit?
Ever heard of bicycles and motorcycles? And no, I don't care about your excuses why you need "at least two cars". You're too stupid with your money to feed a single child. I bet you spend everything on oversized cars and on plastic dolls of naked Chinese cartoon characters.

>>513937212
You know nothing.

>>513937013
Printing money is a full-spectrum tax and it has massive costs to society. Why do you think inflation is so high for the last 5 years? Why do so many leftists refuse to understand basic economics?

>>513928924
nothing new under sun

>>513918480
England and Holland have been voting against immigration since the 70s, there was never a desire for immigration from the people

>>513937583
Inflation is not a tax. And no, I don't care about your extra special definition. It makes you sound like a mildly retarded fifth grader who didn't do his homework and now thinks he can bullshit his way through the test unnoticed. You don't even understand the most basic terminology, but keep telling yourself that everyone else is the stupid. We have a few special names for men with that comically poor sense of judgement. You are the reason why people commonly associate /pol/ with those names.

>>513935786
nice.

>>513917447
The German government can't create money, they are in the eurozone

>>513933423
That's why the Gulf states were correct about all of this.
Never give them equal rights.
Never give them a vote.
Never allow them to own property.
Treat them only as temporary labour.

>>513938061
>nflation is not a tax

https://pensiontrusts.cartwright.co.uk/news-feature-money/news-feature-why-inflation-is-a-hidden-tax-dec-2023.pdf

https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/economics/documents/discussion-papers/00-03.pdf

https://tax.kenaninstitute.unc.edu/news-media/is-inflation-a-tax/

You are a fucking retard. Inflation is a tax on everyone.

Danke Merkel

>>513917003 (OP)
this guy is already disliked as a non-descript, flip-flopping apparatchik, now he announces tax increases for middle income and signals hes going after pensions? hes cooked.
if he had tackled asylum with an immediate article 15 and started rounding up illegals, deported ukrainians, he would make a dent in that budget for asylum of 25 billion and bought some goodwill for other cuts, but he only tinkered at the edges.
pensions at 1.1 trillion is the biggest spend but good luck selling further rises in the retirement age particularly since he has no problem borrowing for a fresh land army that will never get used.
tlr: Merkel warned CDU fags about him but they didn't listen, now they will pay

>>513937480
>>513935786
Tolle Gesellschaft, wo jeder nur für sich lebt und auf andere scheißt…

It’s Germans like this guy who are part of the problem: they treat interactions with other human beings as entirely transactional. Instead of helping to build social capital by creating supportive networks, they brag about how good they are at strip-mining resources from others while talking down to people who don’t do that. Go to any social gathering in Germany and you’re bound to run into someone like this. The problem is that these low-empathy sociopaths see themselves as model citizens while they are part of the reason why educated Germans are choosing to move abroad. People with this small-town mentally just want to be king, even if it means being king of a crumbling neighborhood!

>>513938378
>earns 400k+ a year
>fucks over middle class faggots
BASED

>>513938061
Listen to this retard…
Inflation of asset prices via money printing is a tax on people who do not own assets (the Cantillon effect).

>>513917003 (OP)
He's lying. He can finance it. Governments print money.

>>513938254
>I don't know what a tax is, but I know a cussword and that's almost as good where I come from.
Yes yes, we know. Now crawl back to your sheepfucker pub.

>>513930625
they can just not count it, well... until someone counts all the money available

remember, only metals (gold, silver, platinum, copper) are real currency, their scarcity makes their value

>>513935786
so u cover the administrative work of managing and paying different ambulant Pflegedienst providers for the boomers? fix their leaky roofs? order groceries etc?
and they hand over their houses in return?
thats sounds like you are in the business of elder care
now who the fuck wants to do that? you also need a decent cashflow to cover all these expenses because the boomers wont allow someone else move into their 200qm mansions while they are alive

>>513939028
He’s right though. You are wrong and don’t have a counter-argument.

No wonder Germany’s economy hasn’t grown in 3 years. Too many people who think they are smarter than everyone else but don’t produce enough value to justify their smugness. Don’t forget that hubris comes before the fall. Perhaps a lesson in humility would be good for people like you.

>>513926671
No, pureblood, and youre a neet without telling me you are
>>513928421
Yes

>>513917003 (OP)
> Take the Welfare state
> Leave the bloated government, PMC, military and NGO sectors
> Never raise taxes on wealthy people

>>513917003 (OP)
>import 6 million shitskins in one year
>100% of them end up on welfare and never pay any taxes, ever
>the meme that they're going to pay for the pensions falls apart, the decline of the welfare state is actually accelerated because the tax base is atrophying
>"HoW cOuLd ThIs HaPpEn?"
So much for Europeans being thin, educated, and intelligent.

>>513938469
Oh my. What a petty little man you are. Always eager to throw shit at anyone who lives a more decent life than you, always busy dragging everyone around you down to you into the gutters. It's human garbage like you that keeps Germany down. I'm sure the Merz regime sees an excellent informer and denouncer in you. At least until one of the neighbors you've slandered and ratted out becomes your new superior, and crushes you like the vermin you are.

>>513938677
Another Dunning-Kruger poster boy who doesn't know what a tax is.

>>513917003 (OP)
>flood the country with illegals.
>give them everything for free.
>sorry Germans we cant afford the welfare state for you.

>>513934124
npc take from a retarded mongoloid

remember the US and NATO attacked us that is why this is happening

The greatest obstacle to global goverance is functioning nation states.
As well as erasing national identity and turning a country into an economic zone with 80 different ethnicities, immigration was designed to economically destroy us causing bankrupcy

>>513939798
scumbag maxxing does not scale and loses to group survival mechanisms

>>513939950
Norway, Britain and Ukraine helped. Norway because they are greedy jews, britain because they hate europeans and ukraine because they are retarded subhumans. All to please daddy america.

>>513927288
Let women perish

>>513917003 (OP)
>oops we gave all your money to brown people

>>513917447
Retard.
What do you think money represents?
Trust.
If trust in the currency drops due to the 10 or so factors in the equation, what value does the currency have? Zimbabwe prints billions of their dollars, but they're worth less than the paper its printed on.
Have a clue next time you post, the kraut leader says the financiation for a welfare state cannot continue because they CHOSE to prioritize their limited funds elsewhere, particularly to an army that they will have no use for

>>513932672
Less the 2k.
Average carpenter takes home 1600 full time. Depeds were you live.

>>513940034
britans plan
american means
norwegian staging ground
polish advanced knowledge
german coverup

>>513919513
>russia
>a real military powerhouse

>>513940076
nice try, you attacked germany and now demand for tribute paid by germanies poor
>>513940216

>>513917003 (OP)
>France accepts to raise its military spend cause Donaldo asked for it
>France anounces there's no more money for the people, cuts holydays, cuts salaries
>Germany accepts to raise its military spend cause Donaldo asked for it
>Germany anounces there's no more money for the people

Damn it feels good to have a gangsta president

>>513940245
yes, russia has proven their status as preeminent landpower in the world again

NEW BREAD

>>513924558

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>>513924558

>>513924558

>>513924558

>>513917447
>Every time a State tells you it cannot "finance" something -- it is lying to you. Governments create money
Not in the EU, the European central bank doesn't allow it.