Thread 514732135

Can someone redpill me on the Holocaust. six million seems an impossible number. Moreover when I ask Chat Gpt for the numbers I get the following:
| Country/Region | Estimated Jewish Deaths
Poland | 2.7–3.0 million
Soviet Union 1.0–1.3 million
Hungary ~550,000
Romania ~270,000–290,000
Germany & Austria ~160,000
Czechoslovakia ~260,000 |
Netherlands ~100,000
France ~75,000
Greece \~60,000
Yugoslavia \~60,000
Italy ~7,500
Others 100,000+

Why would Jewish holocaust numbers include jews dead in places outside Germany or Poland. How many of these numbers are as a result of war, and how many a result of concentration camps? if you count germany, it comes out to about 160k.

>>514732135 (OP)
read about einsatzgruppen, they were responsible for the third of the deaths

>>514732135 (OP)
it happened but not the way they say it did, jews were the perps, and the victims were their children

The holocaust was the narrative jews used to justify the destruction of Germany by the allies, the demonization of right wing politics and the sanctification of jews. It has nothing to do with concentration camps or that some jews died in the war. As the central piece in the post-WW2 new world order, it was instrumental in the creation of the of left's new religion where whiteness became the original sin, Hitler the Devil, right-wing politics demonic, racism the greatest evil, jews the gods and the destruction of Western culture the ultimate redemption.

It was a very clever way to enslave an entire group of people without them even noticing.

Some jews died in WW2. Some jews (rightfully, just like US Japanese were) were held in camps in WW2. Some jews starved in camps in WW2. Jews were not gassed by the millions. There were no 'extermination camps'. There was no systematic effort to exterminate all jews by the Germans. There was no 6 gorillion. Jews in camps had typhus and camps were de-loused with Zyklon B just like people, ships and warehouses were all over the world.

The Germans were blockaded and starving, therefore their prisoners starved as well. The combination of typhus and starvation due to the blockade and 24/7 nationwide bombings cutting supply lines and crippling the nation resulted in a lot of prisoners dying. In order to decrease the rate of typhus infection the bodies of the dead were burned, just as the allies did when they captured the camps. The concentration camps and deaths of some jews (likely around 300,000 maximum) was real. The 'holocaust' is an event GREATLY exaggerated in order to increase jew political power and their ability to manipulate others to their benefit post-WW2.

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>>514732135 (OP)
Jews need the numbers to equal six million and 2 thirds because of some prophecies. No matter what happens, there has to be a total of 6 million killed in all of Europe and it has to constitute.2/3rds of their population.

Specifically, there is a missing "Vav" (6th letter) in the phrase "ye shall return" in leviticus 25:10.

And more importantly in Zachariah 13:7-9

Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
against the man who is My Companion,
declares the LORD of Hosts.
Strike the Shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered
and I will turn My hand against the little ones.
And in all the land,
declares the LORD,
two-thirds will be cut off and perish,
but a third will be left in it.
This third I will bring through the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on My name,
and I will answer them.
I will say, ‘They are My people,’
and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’”

Since those other irrelevant places are still in Europe, they need to be included in the count. Because it isnt an honest portrayal of the facts, its a state mandated attestation to their faith.

>>514732939
Your claims about right wing politics falls apart when you realize it’s a majority of white evangelical republicans who are supporting Zionism in Israel while it’s the left that supports Palestine. Maybe fascism is demonized using Hitler as the scapegoat, but the center-right is even more rabidly pro-Jewish than the center-left is

>>514732494
Go on...

>>514733327
(((White evangelical republicans))) are not right-wing, rabbi. Go publish some more Scofield bibles.

>>514732494
>children
This. Really. Fucking. Happened.

>>514733517
Don't listen to him. Its just fake. He doesn't want to admit that their reasons were biblical because he's a Christian.
see >>514733288

>>514732135 (OP)
they was transported all the way around the world. on slave ships. they was slaves, many died being transported, many suffered from illness.

the real holocaust is in progress on white europeans

>>514732939
this anon is correct

holocaustcentrism is a key point to attack. The holocaust is used to justify laws and cultural norms that prevent white ethnogenesis

they have changed legislation and culture across europe and the anglosphere to make speaking of whites or white interests taboo

just break the taboo

>>514732135 (OP)
>Asking ChatGPT
This is stupid.

>Why would Jewish holocaust numbers include jews dead in places outside Germany or Poland.
Because Hitler and his allies invaded and occupied places OUTSIDE Germany and Poland during WWII.

>How many of these numbers are as a result of war, and how many a result of concentration camps?
The most efficient way to murder large numbers of Jews was to round them up and shoot them. From the Nazi perspective, it had two problems:
- German soldiers would get demoralized (realizing that your Führer is a psychotic monster who deserves only a bullet to the head doesn't encourage you to fight for him)
- It galvanized the resistance to fight until death instead of surrendering.

Amerifats tend to assume "the Holocaust" means "just the gas chambers and ovens". Gas chambers and ovens were PART OF the Holocaust, but a lot of the Jews Hitler murdered were rounded up and shot, or worked/starved to death. Jewish victims of the Hunger Plan are also counted as Holocaust victims, even though the primary target of the Hunger Plan was Slavs.

>>514732135 (OP)
>Why would Jewish holocaust numbers include jews dead in places outside Germany or Poland
because the holocaust is the name given to the genocide of european jewery

> How many of these numbers are as a result of war, and how many a result of concentration camps
3 and bit were deaths in camps. einsatzgruppen probably a bit over a million. rest in ghettos and such.

>>514734648
One physical piece of evidence would suffice. Or an unstaged photograph. The greatest event in history, and all you have are eyewitness accounts from people who survived the death camps of one of the most efficient peoples in the world.

>>514735260
The German war machine wasn't particularly efficient till speer took over and reformed it, by which point it was too late.

>>514732254
>einsatzgruppen
>>514734832
>einsatzgruppen
What's this new meme? Einsatzgruppen fought partisans, saboteurs, and the like.

>I broke the bot thread again.
Sorry. My mistake.

>>514735260
This is the proof.

There were ~400 thousand officially registered prisoners. Official registration counts are notably smaller than the number of Jews transported to Auschwitz.

Compare the aerial photos of Auschwitz to any modern city with a similar official population.

The only way Auschwitz makes sense is if 1) they released huge numbers of the Jews they got or 2) they killed huge numbers of the Jews they got. The Third Reich has no records of large-scale release of Jews.

That fucking electric floor steam room meme comes from a brainstorming session because the Amerifats knew the "concentration camps" weren't big enough to hold the prisoners concentrated there, they knew the prisoners weren't coming out again, and the only thing they didn't know was how they were being killed.

>>514736100
>new meme
Einsatzgruppen mass-murdering civvies has been part of normie history books for longer than you've been alive. Even if you were homeschooled in a meth lab by Holocaust denialists, how the fuck do you care enough to argue about the Holocaust but NOT know that that's part of the mainstream position?

>partisans, saboteurs, and the like.
Hitler taught that Jews were innately prone to sabotaging Germans. Even if the einsatzgruppen *actually believed* they were only killing saboteurs, it wouldn't be hard to stretch that belief to include Jews.

It didn't happen. There's nothing further that needs to be said that hasn't been said 6 million times.

Don't bother arguing with him, he'll just start talking about some random shit and then his friend will start posting infographics
Next time we'll just kill all their children too

>>514737626
Hitlers big mistake was not going for the ashkenazis with influence, power or wealth

There were probably a few thousand of them globally, and sympathetic networks in most countries

A targetted decapitation of world jewry would have bought a lot of time

>>514738057
I was talking about the whites

>>514738375
oh ahaha, awkward

its nice to see a jew being honest for once at least, most try to hide it

>>514738532
I'm actually sentinelese

>>514737500
We did not have Einsatzgruppen in our history books. You lie. I still have my school box in attic and can go and check. i was schooled at 80´and 90´s and the official number was the redcross, about 280k. Our curriculum also thought us, where the six gorillion comes from. It comes from media. How old are you?

>>514732135 (OP)
chat gpt is retarded
poland is lik 1.7 highest
and the rest is 1.4 intentional

>>514732494
They worship a Mexican/native American guy.

>>514734648
Source?

>>514732939
Pretty much sums it up. All “proof” of it was Jewish testimony and a rigged trial. I’m not even joking, that’s the strongest proof they have. Everything else is like, well I guess that could have happened but it doesn’t sound likely. I will give an few examples.

The German codes were cracked. They made no mention of killing jews.

The Germans meticulously wrote down deaths in their labor camps including any jews that were killed. Jews claim there were two sets of books for some reason and the real books were burnt and there’s no evidence of them.

There is no written proof of a holocaust or a given order anywhere. Jews claim it was all done in secret.

Every single “fact” is like that. Maybe if one was off you could overlook it but everything is like that because it didn’t fucking happen.