Thread 514733117

They're saying Japan surrendered because of the Russians even though Americans were already invading Japan by the time Russians showed up. Battle of Okinawa.

>>514733117 (OP)
>They're saying Japan surrendered because of the Russians

That's a well established fact. Not even the nukes scared them as much as the Soviet might.

>>514733117 (OP)
You know anon, twitter has this amazing new feature called the "re-tweet."
So you can show another person's tweet to your followers on twitter and add your commentary on top of it instead of making a thread here.
You should try it.

>>514733117 (OP)
>They're saying Japan surrendered because of the Russians
they did, around the time of the surrender the soviet forces starting amassing around the border with japan after they got done raping germany.
>MUH NOOK
happened around the same time and soviet conquest was seen as a worse alternative than american occupation. Pick up a book retard

>>514733117 (OP)
You retards write Russia out of the war and claim victory in Europe

>>514733117 (OP)
so? jsut another twitter artist? who fucking cares. ill generate an ai image in like 2 seconds to absolutly destroy that image. be right back

>>514733228
Japan literally beat you in a war you stupid faggot

They saw the soviets as a final desperate option to keep the US out and stop occupation. They surrendered seconds after the soviets began to invade anyway because they would rather be occupied by the US than USSR, which in hindsight was a great decision among many horrible ones.

>>514733461
You mean how the communists subjugated half of Europe for like 50 years? Yeah /pol/ (((conveniently))) leaves that out

>>514733228
your meatwave charges made banzai charges look co-ordinated, ivan.

The communists did not fight in the war in China.
They went "lol bye" and fucked off into the interior where the Japanese couldn't follow, building up support and pillaging the rural regions while the nationalists tried to fight Japan even as their supplies dwindled because the commies kept raiding the farms.

>>514733559
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

We wiped the floor with Japanese with 1:10 casualty rate. 9,000 killed on the Soviet side against 89,000 Japanese killed plus more than half a million POWs

>>514733461
That has nothing to do with this thread. What a retard.

>>514733117 (OP)
Many don't know about the Battles of Khalkhin Gol, Manchukuo, etc.

>>514733812
See >>514733872

every Russian killed about 10 Japs and took like 100 prisoner. This is the exact moment Japanese decided to surrender.

>>514733559
you literally can't compare tsarist russia with the 1945 soviet union.
>>514733812
Japan had no ships because americans destroyed them and russia was about to steamroll them completely. That's why russia took the kuril islands easily

>>514733896
>>514733872
Anon knows. Here's another perspective

>>514733228
Why were the soviets scared of the bombs then?

>>514733964
Japan did not give a shit if China got raped for the thousandth time. You fags didn't have the naval capacity to invade Hokkaido and everyone knew it.
America showed that they could vaporize thousands of Japs at a time while taking zero casualties in return.

We should've let the Japs wipe out the chinks when they had their chance. Jews ruined everything, in Europe and in Asia.

>>514734733
america didn't have many nukes back then. America's plan was to give ships to the soviet union so they could be the cannon fodder but didn't expect the soviet union to be so efficient at invading them so they had to nuke japan to stop the communist from taking over the whole country
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hula

>>514734995
>had to nuke japan to stop the communist from taking over the whole country
they just had a big new bomb that they wanted to flex, nothing more nothing less

>>514733228
Do you think anyone believes any of the bullshit you spew on a daily basis? Just shut the fuck up you slavkike

>>514734995
Japan did no know how many nukes America had.
As for America's plan they did exactly that. The Soviets already had half of Sakhalin so no amphibious invasion was necessary and the Kuril Islands are fucking tiny. They took both. They had nowhere near the capacity to the same with Hokkaido and ended up shelving their plans.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Soviet_invasion_of_Hokkaido

>>514733117 (OP)
Tankies are pathetic subhumans. USSR relied on Lend Lease to beat Nazi Germany (both Stalin and Khruschev privately admitted this) and China did fuck all to contribute to Japan’s defeat. Had FDR not started the Pacific War, Japan would’ve won the war in China.

>>514733117 (OP)
That is literally a KMT uniform on the furthest right, what are you talking about retard?

>>514733559
>>514733812
Reddit is that way NAFO tranny.

>>514734957
>saar chinks are da problem saar
Nice try Rapejeet.

>>514733117 (OP)
The government surrendered because of the bombs, the army surrendered because the Soviets kicked there shit in

>>514733228
Emperor Shōwa clearly stated the bombs as being the reason for Japan’s surrender.

>>514733117 (OP)
> But we wuz deliverers and shit
Every fucking time

>>514734733
Japanese fleet was practically destroyed and the remainder was in the Pacific Ocean. USSR could easily take over Japan and was readying to do this. With a 1:10 casualty rate that wouldn't even be that costly.

>>514733228
They were afraid of getting war-crimed by the Soviets after losing their key naval pieces at Midway/Marianas Turkey Shoot

>>514733382
The Soviets weren’t able to invade Japan. Furthermore, the Japanese said that it was the bombs that caused them to surrender.

>>514735490
emperor chud

>>514733559
Based

>>514735546
Well, of course the US destroyed most of the Japanese forces. I am not disputing that. In 1945 that left Japan an easy target for USSR.

>>514733463
this is the best one i got so far
im bored
its better than the other propaganda at least

>>514733117 (OP)
Why do the soviets keep getting credit for invading Europe and then crying to the west because Barbarossa fucked them in the ass from all the plundering they were doing? We should’ve nuked Moscow. Twice.

>>514735433
> We wuz deliverers and shit
You should deliver me your mom's vagina

>>514735532
It wouldn't matter if they had zero ships. They still had air power including that stupid kamikaze shit.
You were only able to invade the Kuril Islands because America gave you some ships. It was no where near enough to transport a force capable of taking Hokkaido.

>>514733812
>made banzai charges look co-ordinated
They were. Japanese soldiers didn’t randomly run at gunfire like in Hollywood movies. A human bullet (banzai) attack would only take place under certain conditions and if the commanding Japanese field officer gave the order to charge.

>>514733117 (OP)
Commies bave been rewriting history for a long time. Just recently is their new push to rewrite WWII yet again.

>>514733817
To be fair the CCP’s 8th route army did launch an offensive against the Japanese in 1940, but it mainly consisted of insignificant harassment and then using Chinese peasants as human shields.

>>514735775
>It wouldn't matter if they had zero ships.
Well, they didn't have zero ships. You pulled this right out of your ass.

The defeat of Japan was literally only China (KMT) and Soviet Union. Mutts did not do jack shit besides dropping the nuke and claiming credit at the last second, when 80% of Japanese troops were stationed in China and the Soviets had collapsed the IJA lines in Manchukuo and were preparing to advance into Hokkaido from Sakhalin

>>514733117 (OP)
You fought dishonorabre with nucrear weapon

>>514733117 (OP)
They also erased Indians who fought under the british banner

>>514736068
Americans dropped a lot of firebombs and destroyed their fleet too. But most of the lifting was done by China, of course.

>>514736023
You are too ESL for this conversation.

>>514733872
The Soviets launched their offensive against Japan on the same day as the Nagasaki bombing. Japan was already defeated by then. Russia is a criminal nation that the stole the land of a defeated country (and is still occupying it today).

>>514734957
It was the greatest US fuckup to not support the war effort of the Japanese in China after the Japs submitted

>>514733228
Big if true.

>>514736174
You are too jeet for this board.

>>514734957
>We should've let the Japs wipe out the chinks
Japan was liberating the Chinese from the KMT and CCP.

>>514735482
NATO is based. Seethe, tankie.

>>514736295
>reeeee
I accept your concession.

>>514735772
Who are you quoting?

>>514736152
Honestly even in a one-on-one war Japan could not have defeated China, it is simply too vast of a country with millions and millions of soldiers. Even the Wang Jingwei regime was plagued with KMT loyalist guerrillas (as well as Communist guerrillas, the Communists did participate in the war contrary to what redditors claim but the proportion of which is not comparable as they controlled only small pockets and cells within Yan'an and Manchukuo)

>>514736189
Lose war, lose territory. Simple as.

>514736405
Sure it is saar

>>514736444
Accept a toilet into your life.
>>514736490
Yeah, Japan realized how much they fucked up quite fast, but they were in too deep already. No idea what the Japs were even thinking trying to take on China, lol.

>>514736490
>Lose war, lose territory.
I’m aware, that doesn’t change the fact that Russia is a criminal nation for illegally occupying Japanese territory.

>>514736490
>Honestly even in a one-on-one war Japan could not have defeated China
Only if you have the US commercial embargo on, Japs killed 20m Chinese without breaking a sweat, what makes you think they were tired?
The troopers of the emperor would have taken them all out if it wasn't for their mineral poverty

>>514736333
If the Japs and the Americans had just talked shit out, they would’ve known they were both fighting communists lmao.

>>514736645
Japan would’ve won the war in China if not for US interference.

>>514736699
Unfortunately the FDR administration was pro-communist and wanted war against Japan on behalf of Stalin and Chiang Kai-Shek.

>>514736663
Chinese military losses were around 3 million. Japs could fight only defenseless civilians. Eventually Chinese would have kicked their ass.

>>514736645
>i am mad
Okay.

>>514736790
Truly the US fought the wrong side. Should’ve left the Japs wreck the rest of the CCP while the other side dealt with Stalin. What a waste.

>>514733117 (OP)
Jews control US
Jew Kissinger planned US massive economic assistance to China
Jews in every successive admin helped communist China
Jews in US govt now say China is enemy
Jews believe we must prepare to fight a war against China
Jews are in full control of US and hate whites and Christians
Jews will engineer a war to have America conquered and destroyed

They killed Americans with world wars
They killed Americans with cold wars
They killed Americans on 9/11
They killed Americans with opioids
They killed Americans with clot shot
They encouraged abortion and feminism

They want you dead. The Jews want you dead. The Jews want to murder your entire extended family.

The Jews will kill Americans unless Americans wake up to their plan

japan should've been allowed to keep their gains on the mainland
imagine what might've been

>>514733117 (OP)
I don't want credit for that anyway.

>>514736645
>>514736663
>514736708
>514736790
Japanese advancing had stalled by the time of Ichi-Go, the Japanese could only reach Chongqing by bombing even then the Chinese had heavily fortified the city
>20 million
Most of which were civilians killed in bombings
>FDR supported Chiang
This is fucking delusional, Chiang rejected liberalism entirely and adapted German and Soviet styles of governance and Japanese style militarism from his military training by the IJA

>>514736648
Return Ulster to Ireland and Gibraltar to Spain

>>514733228
All you did was bonk them on the head in Manchuria at the very end of the war. Completely irrelevant.

>>514735433
>USSR relied on Lend Lease to beat Nazi Germany
Thats dumb, it helped sure

>>514736847
That's just because there were very few professional military personnel, retard, Japs lost 480.000 and took out 21 million that include those pros and infinite militia fodder, and could have gone on and on, seriously, those dudes didn't give a fuck, their level of emperor appreciation were ridiculous.

>>514737142
>Japanese advancing had stalled by the time of Ichi-Go, the Japanese could only reach Chongqing by bombing even then the Chinese had heavily fortified the city
Painting maps doesn't necessarily means shit in war, stop taking lightly the lives of millions of poorly armed yet fearless Chinese militia you faggotnigger jeet.

>>514733117 (OP)
Communists rewrite history constantly, this shouldn't be news to you.

>>514737166
*includes
btw, Japs still had 3 million at the end of the war in China

>>514737166
>That's just because there were very few professional military personnel

Chinese army was around 8 million large in 1945. And that is just KMT. They would have slaughtered the Jap invaders sooner or later.

>>514733817

Both sides fought in their respective capacity and both acknowledged and respect the contributions of the other party to the war effort. Neither side wants random Westoids coming and denigrating their brother’s contribution to the war effort.

Not to mention, the majority of the KMT ended up defecting and joining the communists later on. So what is even the point of this type of argument? It is just one of those things that people say without really thinking about what it means.

>>514737409
Like they slaughtered Mao's army and won the civil war, huh??
KEK

>>514737310
>nigger accusing me of being a hoi4 tranny
Nice try rapejesh, but no one likes India and your attempts to pit Japan against China are plainly obvious to see

>>514737142
>>FDR supported Chiang
>This is fucking delusional
FDR was pro-KMT from the start of the China War. He sent the Flying Tigers to China to fight the Japanese for Chiang.
>Most of which were civilians killed in bombings
Untrue. Japan only strategic targets. China suffered heavy casualties because they were terrible at fighting (Chinese soldiers would often throw grenades prematurely, giving the Japanese enough time to throw them back).
>Return Ulster to Ireland and Gibraltar to Spain
Gibraltar is a British overseas territory and Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. How can we “return” land that has always been British?

>>514733117 (OP)
undoing the whitewash. white fatigue. ruskies are a-ok.

>>514737148
Stalin and Khruschev admitted it.

>>514733228
You didn’t do shit against Japan. Everyone knows they got nuked into submission. We should’ve nuked Moscow too.

>>514737591
Fuck off Poojesh, no one asked your opinion

>>514737577
*Japan only bombed strategic targets.

>>514737507
This isn't a paradox strategy game, mate

>>514737535
>Immediately thinks of paradox gemu
Nigger, you're showing your ignorance, i'm referring to Afghanistan wars, or Barbarossa, painting the map fast doesn't mean you've won, attrition warfare is a thing, even when you're not conscious of it.

Fuck commies, they're retarded.

>>514736189
It should have been like this.

>>514737684
They did a shit ton of warcrimes too

I'm really tired of my countrys being keep condemned for like 80 fucking years folks

>>514733228
>Couldn't even take Manchuria from half starved japs

>>514737789
Why would the ruskies get Hokkaido?
It's been jap for 1000 years.

>>514737794
Normally the loser in the war gets mass raped an all their men killed.

>>514737698
Exactly
KMT army was a joke in 45, and would have been a bigger joke without US or Soviet support on a 1v1 war against Japan

>>514733559
>>514733812
>>514733817

Russia literally destroyed the entire 2 millions strong MIGHTY NIPPON ARMY in Manchuria, historylet subbuman zoomers

>>514737794
Get used to it.
We'll never stop being condemned here on the US.

>>514737834
Soviets took Manchuria from Japan in 11 days with 1:10 casualties. It was an absolute slaughter of Japs.

>>514737794
Its russhits and chinks.

>>514733117 (OP)
When Trump raged about China not honoring America’s contribution to their revolution he was actually being accurate. It’s called the Dixie Mission

>>514737869
>Why would the ruskies get Hokkaido?
Landgrab is the least of your worries when you lose a war of aggresion you began.

>>514737684
Tell that to the people killed by japanese fire balloons

>>514737869
It looks cool. I'd take it.
>>514737891
Sure thin, buddy. Go watch some anime.

>>514737869
They had the tummy full after Churchill gifted em' half Europe

>>514737792
Such as?

>>514737971
>>514738003
Well, you're not getting it, you assholes cant beat the ukraine.
Which is effectively the canada of Russia.

>>514737789
ywnbaw

>>514733228
The American responses proves how brainwashed they are. Quite impressive.

>>514738084
Eating the livers of US pilots for one.
I like your singular study, now show the dozens which say otherwise.

>>514737979
That wasn’t deliberate targeting of civilians, unlike the American terror bombings.

>>514738097
>Well, you're not getting it,
Japan will die on its own, thanks to you deindustriaalising them.

>>514733117 (OP)
Jewish inspired anti-White communism which is White Genocide.

America should have had a ceasefire with japan and dropped the nukes on Moscow

>>514738202
>Eating the livers of US pilots for one.
Ridiculous propaganda.

>>514737768
So you are literally proving my point that Japan could not have militarily defeated China in a war which inevitably would have been prolonged as a war of attrition?

>>514737794
>my country
Go home Prajesh, you are not Japanese

>>514737937
>SAAR RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE THE ENEMY OF JAPAN IGNORE THE INDIANS MASS MIGRATING THERE THOUGH BEENCHOOOOOOOD

>>514733117 (OP)
I don't think americans realize how much leftists, russians, chinese, etc. hate them.
They would absolutely genocide them with the help of the jews if they could.
Yet for some reason this "nazi" board love BRICS shitskins and communism.

>>514738135
They are just angry because their foundational myths are being destroyed. They legit think they contributed the most to winning the war. Its a hard truth for them to swallow.

>>514738260
>Japan will die on its own
2 more weeks, comrade!

>>514738260
They deindustrialized on their own.
So there's that.

>>514736708
So? That's like saying Russia would've taken Ukraine had NATO not interfered. Obviously the US would use the war in China as a means to bog down an expansionist Pacific ocean adversary. It'd be stupid to do anything else.

>>514738097
>Well, you're not getting it

Yeah, but it would be pretty nice. Its like Kamchatka, but an island.

>>514738294
>ceasefire with japan
Wouldn't ave worked, they woul just sail south to mass murder the cunts and the kiwis.

>>514738084
>muh chinese accusing japan of war crimes
Retard, the KMT regime was the most lenient on the Japanese, a majority of KMT personnel was educated and trained by the Japanese such as General Matsui, several Japanese generals were hired by the KMT as advisers for the civil war against the Communists
I am starting to think this is an Indian trying to smear China and blame China for all of Japan’s problems

>>514738309
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chichijima_incident
Anything you dont like is propaganda huh?
Are you a jap or a weabo?

>>514737794
same, fuck russia, fuck china, fuck america, fuck england

>>514733117 (OP)
The single greatest mistake of the 20th century was ending the war with Japan. For a period of time we were completely and totally unmatched in the strength of arms, and we did nothing with it. Just think of all the untold suffering and horrors wrought by the soviets and communism that would have been avoided had we beat Stalin into the dirt with the nukes.

>>514733228
more like soviet despair.

>>514738597
Пoчeмy ты нe нa фpoнтe, Mыкoлa?

>>514737869

I think 1000 years is kind of a stretch. Japan only annexed Hokkaido in 1869 and needed American help to colonize it.

>>514738473
My point is that has the US-Japan war not happened then Japan would’ve won in China. The Japanese only “lost” in China because they lost WW2 to the US.

>>514733117 (OP)
>Anti-facist war
>After the war it gave way to communism yippy.....I think

It is sad the amount of people that paint facism as the ultimate evil but communism is a little angel that gets a free pass. Communism has cause more deaths in a shorter amount of time than any political system of government in history and rewrite the history as if everything in the country started with Communism i.e. Year One.

>>514738597
Back to the trench, bag dodger.

>>514738679
>>514738716
how you changed vpn so fast

>>514738685
Lol, they couldnt take it if they wanted it.

>>514738557
It’s the CCP that’s making war crime accusations against Japan, not the KMT. Japan and the KMT government in Taiwan had normal relations after the war.

>>514738440
>They deindustrialized on their own.
You choked their PS3 by controlling the supply limit of the CPU, much like you did you China in 2018.
Until Sony gave up, industrialised their Japan hq an rlocated to california.

You also chocked Toshiba (the inventor of SSD microchip) and gave all of the SSD profits it Jewtel and Samsung.
With friends like you? Japan is already 1 foot in the grave. LEL

>>514738381
You said one on one war, not me, China without US and Soviet aid would get rekt in attrition war eventually, the best possible result was to get enough Japs dead, but they didn't even with all the aid they only managed to kill 480.000 Japs dead while losing 21 million themselves, do the math, fren

Americans sent like two field commanders, and that's it.
There were the flying tigers.
Not one American soldier on the ground.

>>514738567
Wikipedia isn’t a credible source.

>>514737794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcjxVUW1skg

>>514738884
>Anything i dont like is propaganda
Yup exactly as i thought; you're a disingenuous faggot.

>>514738876
It's not that, the aid was the commercial embargo on Japan and the direct material aid.
China would be Japanese today without that.

>>514739031
Ad hominem isn’t an argument.

>>514738850
>Japan only makes PlayStation
Good grief you're retarded arent you ruskie?

>>514733117 (OP)
Soviets liberated Manchuria and Kiril Islands from Japan, so they deserve to be on that painting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzns2X2PVAo

>>514733117 (OP)
The Asians had a war in WW2? Last I heard only Whites fought that war other than Japan & Filipinos

>>514738686
Again, so? The Japanese picked both fights. It's not like we're talking about some unpredictable event that bit Japan in the ass. Saying they could've won had they not fucked up isn't exactly meaningful.

>>514739049
China can't feed themselves.
>>514739105
Nor is sticking your head in the sand. You ignore history all you want weeb.

>>514739111
>>Japan only makes PlayStation
You still stole it from them. Gave all those jobs to californians, while Takahiri ha to gt fire an live under a bridge in shame.

>>514739211
The second sino japanese war.

>>514733117 (OP)
Chinks did not matter in WW2. They were completely irrelevant.

>>514739205
>liberated
Manchukuo was an independent country and Karafuto is Japanese. The Soviets illegally conquered these territories.

>>514733117 (OP)
>anglokike doesn't know about the soviets
why do people with my flag are historically retarded?

They make brainless liberals look smart by comparison.

>>514739553
Why are all the places in brown utter shit holes today?

>>514739221
>The Japanese picked both fights
Incorrect. The Second Sino-Japanese War was a result of Chinese aggression (Marco Polo Bridge Incident, Tongzhou Massacre, Battle of Shanghai) and the Pacific War was a result of FDR deliberately starving Japan of resources in order to provoke them into war.

>>514737794
You never apologized.

>>514739258
>You ignore history
I’m interested in the real history, not Allied propaganda.

>>514739633
When did fdr starve them of resources?
Prove your claim weeb

>>514739464
>Anglo nonsense
opinion discarded

>>514739649
Japan has nothing to apologise for (btw multiple Japanese governments have apologised for WW2).

>>514739686
>allied propaganda
>anything i dont like is propaganda
Crazy how that works huh?

>>514733117 (OP)
>no KMT
>KMT soldier is literally the one in the foreground
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Route_Army
Why are rightoids so dumb?

>>514739750
1938

>>514739049
While the embargo did help China, it was done for selfish reasons.
US had been trying to contain Japan since before that and had no problem arming the japs to invade China initially until the japs started trying to eat their lunches in the mainland.

>>514733117 (OP)
I don’t care at all. You’re a retard if you have any respect for this evil country’s military history.

>>514738385
You didn't answer why soviets were scared of the bombs.
Also
>>514735490

>>514739750
FDR implemented economic sanctions/embargoes cutting off the necessary resources Japan relied on. The Japanese tried to resolve the issue through negotiations but the Americans refused to negotiate and instead issued the Hull note ultimatum which caused the war.

>>514739839
Lol, that's not proof at all third worlder.

>>514739758
Your country worships ziggers lol

>>514739633

This is like when Russians claim that Ukraine started the war because “they shelled our separatist states in Eastern Ukraine”.

Fights between Japanese and Chinese troops wouldn’t have broken out if Japs just stayed home.

>>514733228
Grateful russians were sent into machine gun fire with a single gun for two infantry soldiers so that the allies could win the war. Sacrificing millions of worthless slavs allowed the west to triumph and i think we should honor that.

>>514739806
>>anything i dont like is propaganda
When did I say that?

>>514739924
Lol, the typical response of the crybully.
"You made us attack you" that's the exact same shit the russians claim about the ukrainians.

>>514739553
>why do people with my flag are historically retarded
uw0tm8

>>514740015
Not at all the same. Russia is a criminal regime which is illegally invading Ukraine. Japan was trying to help the Chinese who were stuck between the evil KMT and CCP regimes.
>Fights between Japanese and Chinese troops wouldn’t have broken out if Japs just stayed home.
Many countries had troops in China back then. This was recognised as legitimate by the international community.

>>514733117 (OP)
Of course it is not going to have the US. They don't like us.

>>514733228
The nukes were meant to send a message to you. We have something you don't so don't fuck with us. However when you got nukes, that was thrown out the window, and we got MAD.

>>514739995
We like any one that opposes western hegemony

>>514740047
>You made us attack you
Cutting off the resources a nation relies on is an act of war. America would also go to war if they were in that position.

>>514740278
>admits to worshiping subhumans
lol

>>514733117 (OP)
We
Fucking
Won
The
Pacific
no cap

>>514735775
>They still had air power including that stupid kamikaze shit.
They didn't

>>514740278
I don't like what Clinton did but guys are acting like niggers.

>>514739464

>Manchukuo was an independent country

Had it survived the war and still existed perhaps it would have become one. But it was still just a thinly veiled Japanese puppet state.

But don’t take my word for it.

https://youtu.be/NIOQCwPe9QA?si=yjSG2LyQ5tJdWHEt

>>514733228
Isnt Japan and Russia technically still at war?

>>514740317
Why exactly did they do that?
Did it have anything with japan invading china?
You act like this all happened in a void and the Japs were totally innocent when the opposite is true.

>>514740474
They always were niggers you dum dum, genetically speaking they're almost entirely asian now.

>>514740427
They used one to blow up a Soviet mine sweeper during the invasion of the Kuril Islands. Fuck off.

>>514740233
>illegally invading
i love how shills have to use this, illegal as you know opposed to west peace and butterflies legal wars. Cant' just tell people wars are bad in general eh.

>>514740516
>But it was still just a thinly veiled Japanese puppet state.
It was a protectorate, not a puppet. Btw every Manchurian I’ve come across online wants Manchukuo back since the CCP has ruined that region.

>>514733117 (OP)
Yeah I wonder why modern propaganda from China wouldn't include America in a hero position. Truly a mystery.

I'm also pretty sure none of these people viewed the suddenly dominant Americans, who took basically the same position in the region the Imperial Japanese held, as being particularly "anti-fascist."

>>514740644
What does a war between Japan and China have to do with the US? Japan made no aggressive moves against the Americans. If the US has minded it’s own business there would’ve been no Pacific War.

>>514740693
show flag

>>514733117 (OP)
Even funnier, they omit China's actual government that fought while the commies sabotaged their back lines.

>>514733117 (OP)
NOO! Hollywood told me we were the only WW2 winners! :(

>>514740233

> This was recognised as legitimate by the international community.

Definitely not. The international community made their views on this crystal clear. They considered what Japan was doing to be criminal.

https://youtu.be/hStmrz3N46U?si=AiptuPmtLapWSwuF

>>514740968
kek, pretty much

>>514740794
The US is free to sell it's oil or not.
If Japan didn't want to give a shit about what America thought about anything then Japan should not have chosen to rely on them for 80% of their oil, nor to take actions such as invading other countries which are impossible to continue without America agreeing to sell them their oil.

I love Japan.

>>514740794
I love your lies weeb.
But there's no basis in history for your claims.
If the Japs wanted to have rapid expansion and aggression they should expect other countries to reply.
They cant just do whatever they want.

>>514733117 (OP)
KMT is on the far right, retard

>>514740317
>>514740794
Japan were warned a gorillonz times over that they would be under economic sanctions should they continue their attacks in China.
It is completely nonsensical to take Japan massacring chinks in giant masses as a given neutral factoid and complain about the US having any reaction to it other than indifference.

>>514741022
Keep in mind this weeb claims sneak attacks are the heroes way to wage wars.

>>514740701

Like I said don’t argue with me about it. I wasn’t alive back then and never saw.

You can argue with Ian Fleming’s brother who visited it and noted that the Japanese military were in total control and that Puyi was merely a puppet.

>>514741211
Japanese are funny - they brag about honour, but always fight dirty. Its always either a sneak attack, an assault on a far weaker nation or an invasion of a country going through civil war. They always fight dirty. Always.

>>514733461
I mean, it was an economic victory over everyone else as we benefited the most from that war. That global hegemony didn't just pop into thin air.

>>514741375
They totally fucked up the sneak attack too.
Is was pretty sad.

All I know is that we were on the wrong side

>>514740390
you let your daughters get raped by bunch of pakis and once they kill them they mix them into their kebabs to be sold to british people lol

>>514740474
I'm sorry that Serbs aren't licking American asses like the Japanese or Germans do

>>514741375

Yes. During the war the US troops would do something called possum patrol where they would massacre all the wounded Japanese soldiers after the battle.

Why? Once you’ve seen a few wounded Japanese soldiers release grenade pins and blow up themselves and the American medics trying to save them you would stop trying to help wounded Japanese soldiers.

>>514739628
Because anglos made them into shithole, just like they did to America (Venezuela and Nicaragua are good examples). ANGLO SHITS like you are guilty that Greece is in an economic crisis. ANGLO SHITS like you are guilty that Italy is forced into political manipulation. ANGLO SHITS like you are guilty that Spain and Portugal had their industries destroyed and stolen!
>pic rel

Fuck you anglos, your race should be eradicated.

>>514739995
your country sucks zelenski's toes (because he's jewish killing europeans)

>>514741993
Lol, if those countries are so badass why did they lose like bitches to anglos like us?
Your argument doesnt hold water.

>>514733228
in all my digging into ww2 I cant recall reading anything noteworthy about the soviets fighting japan.

>>514740859

See>>514737451

>>514737009
anglos will NEVER be American
>pic rel

>>514735703
The US defeated them in battle and they realized it would be better to be occupied by civilized western forces instead of the russian horde.

>>514742206
why is your president from a Jewish family (the Trumps) which now fused with the another Jewish family (the Kushners)?

>>514742298
So this is your short,dumb, and brown cope, huh taco bender?

>>514737623
We should've and we still should. The Russian people should be exterminated.

>>514736142
>Germany and Japanese have technological superiority and might makes right!
>America proceeds to eclipse them and drops 2 nukes
>"NOOOOOOO, THE MUTT HORDES WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE TECHNOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR"

Makes some sense as America is The Great Satan and while no internally fascist, we are certainly fascist as fuck towards non-American populations.

>>514742416
Your President too. Unless you are vpning on a pass and if so I laugh in your general direction

>>514742718
>implying I voted
The max I'll ever vote for would be in state elections (if we have a good candidate).

>>514742590
>internally fascist
Who the fuck are you Theodor Adorno?

>>514742590
the vile fascism of entirely rebuilding and propping up your defeated foes

>>514743542
Think they could of picked a better watercolor?

>>514734656
it took soviets 2 weeks to destroy japanese army and enter the japan.
Nukes were not to stop the war but to stop soviets and showcase the nuclear weapon.
If soviets didn't build their own nukes reaching parity US would nuke us too.
Imbeciles joke about nukes all the time but it's really the only thing that contains the satan (US-led anglokike empire)

>>514743542
unironically, yes
Blowing up a sovereign nation to hell because they aren't the right kind of liberal democracy is quite authoritarian

>>514743857
Right which is why you had jews steal the info for you I'm well aware buddy

>>514743857
The Japs were completely worn down from Operation Ichi-Go.

>>514733117 (OP)
Without American money given by FDR, Hitler would have won.

>>514737794
That's what you get for allowing american occupation to continue for so long

>>514733117 (OP)
Reminder that the Soviets killed more Japanese soldiers than the US. Most of those killed by the Americans were civilians or just not Japanese

>>514735490
>new and most cruel bomb
This from the people who were torturing POWs to death using liquid nitrogen and acetylene torches for "medical research"

>ok comrades, I know we just spent millions of lives and every asset we had to invade Europe and occupy Berlin itself, but WE GOTTA DROP EVERYTHING to invade Japan!! We must defend the Sakhalin islanders and prevent Johnny Football American GIs from scratching their pretty nails!

Yeah I’m sure they were right about to invade Japan lmao

>>514740794
America did business and had relations with various countries in Asia. Attack your trading partners is indirect aggression.

>>514733117 (OP)
There were no commies either, they fled the field of battle like pussies and let the Nationalists fight the Japanese on their own, then let jews build their planned economy

The most supreme faggots of history, ran away like pussies and then tell the exact opposite of reality as "history" to their own kiked population. I guess in that respect they are only slightly worse than the rest of the Allied nations

>>514733117 (OP)
America is the gayest most self obsessed country ever. Who gives a shit.

>>514744699
90% of American equipment arrived in the Soviet Union when the Soviets were already on the outskirts of Germany.
The most difficult moments of the war were overcome without military assistance from the US, as usual they rushed to help when the victor became obvious. A much greater impact was made by food aid, which helped remote regions such as Siberia and the north to survive.
The Soviets would have won regardless but many more people would have died of starvation

>>514744777
We officially stopped the occupation in 1952.

>>514744286
Japan was an expansionist authoritarian Empire that threatened the free flow of commerce and the self-determination of other people, thus it had to be stopped.

>>514733228
Soviet navy was a joke get a grip Pyotyr

>>514744559
japs got crushed by soviets in 2 weeks while "allies" failed to do anything in all the years of war.
Think about it for a second

>>514737794
It's only chinks and their commie fans, Americans hold Japan in higher regard than their other allies, McArthur was an unironic weeb.

>>514745568
>allies" failed to do anything in all the years of war
Good to know your just a retard.

>>514733117 (OP)
Is the cute girl with the sign supposed to represent the faggot socialist student protestors that used to be a problem in Japan in the 50s and 60s until their leader got samurai'd?

>>514746008
Manzhur group stayed untouched through the war.
Kuril islands were rekt so fast they couldn't even react.

>>514740547
Yes due to a dispute of some islands, a ceasefire was declared but no formal surrender/ cessation of hostilities.

It's particularly funny as Communist Chinese were worthless in WW2 and it was the nationalists, who eventually formed Taiwan, that were the primary resistance to Japan which bogged down millions of Japanese troops.

>>514745767
There's a story of him wearing Japanese sleeping robes in his quarters and it actually concerned the army that he was going asiatic.

>>514746515
A unironic chicom was seething about that in a china thread yesterday.

>>514746515
>Communist Chinese were worthless in WW2
No they weren't, They actively shot other chinese in the back while the japs were shooting them in the front

>>514740317
The fuck? You DO realize Japan was the clear aggressor and coveted the Western colonies in Asia? Your ancestors suffered from Japanese militarism.

>>514745568
The japs had withdrawn much of their army to mainland japan. and also had very little way of resupplying manchruia while blockaded by american subs

>>514733117 (OP)
Who cares? It's all a bunch of bullshit anyhow.

>>514745294
LOL we just control behind the scenes. We installed the LDP since the 1950s.

>>514746515
It actually makes me seethe to think about the origins of these bastards' rise to power. They were about dead but then the Soviets gave them land they snatched up from Japan. This is what the PRC used to beat the RoC. This was after a time historically where they were sent into the mountains before WW2. Though in some ways it is thankful because a China that doesn't larp as communist would've probably gone the route of Japan and become super rich. Billions of prosperous chinks would've probably taken over the world during the swiss cheese borders era.

>>514747410
>Billions of prosperous chinks would've probably taken over the world during the swiss cheese borders era.
This has basically already happened in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

>>514747410
>>514747559
We actually allowed the ChiComs to seize power because our specialists favored them over the Nationalists during their 1945-1949 Civil War. The US always fellated over China and now we're paying for it.

We also gave away patents and tech as well as investment to have them fuck us over.

>>514745767
No we don't. We always saw Japan as an inferior and hated them. We sabotaged their economy because we were worried at competition.

>>514746545
Oh wow, wearing a robe makes him a weab?

It's almost as if the Anglo-Saxons (Americans and British) have done everything possible to destroy western civilization

>>514748818
>argie salty about the Falklands

>>514733117 (OP)
Turd worlders are pathetic faggots, simp as.

>>514733228
Japan had already reached out to Americans twice for peace before the USSR got involved. They just had a bunch of conditions that tge Allies wouldn't accept.

>>514737451
>Both sides fought in their respective capacity
No, Mao disciplined his Generals for attempting to fight the Japanese.

>>514740317
>Cutting off the resources a nation relies on is an act of war.
>Be in Leauge of Nations.
>Chimp out like a nigger and invade other League nation.
>What fuck, you embargo me?

>>514733117 (OP)
This is called milking the population. You are still a slave.

>>514733228
lel
u tell em tovarisch

i just think its funny seeing chinks get this jingoistic. the only wars they ever fight are usually just against themselves. and they always lose.

>>514733117 (OP)
revenge for mutts trying to take all the glory in europe even when ussr did 90% of heavy lifting

>>514749570
authoritarians always think they can play "I'm not touching you" on the World stage and are always surprised when their posture have consequences

>>514733872
Based, I hope all those 90K dead nipniggers suffered greatly. I fucking hate nipniggers.

>>514738707
please update your firmware eglintard nobody gives a fuck anymore its 1975+50 already

>>514733228
Can't invade Ukraine

>>514745264
>90% of American equipment arrived in the Soviet Union when the Soviets were already on the outskirts of Germany
No it's 45%, of the 55% it was 92% of the entire wartime rail and train engine acquisition.

>>514746515
Mao said something like the communists shouldn't be too harsh on the japanese. The japanese helped them taking over China.

Commies have been rewriting history to glorify themselves and remove any reference to rivals since the first communist regime took power. It's standard procedure for them. /pol/ and /his/ are spammed daily by tankies from leftypol trying to convince you that only communists fought in WW2. That's just how they are, and it's why they shouldn't ever be engaged with and should be laughed out of every online community.

>>514750463
Yeah he officially rejected compensation from the Japanese post war for that reason.

>>514733117 (OP)
Mao hid in the mountains while the KMT and IJA fought a death war kek

>>514744835
The bombs turned people into shadows
The mindfuck of seeing that in the 1940s must of been incomprehensible

>>514749570
Yeah, economic attacks are acts of war, across history they have been considered acts of war since ever

>>514750034
>heavy lifting
Weird way to say "dying needlessly in human waves"

>>514733117 (OP)
Americans do this with Europe. deserved

>>514750690
Soviets caused the overwhelming majority of germ casualties

>>514750690
Germans were just that good, you Muricans almost got rekt multiple times by sailors riding tanks and bakers bearing arms, meanwhile the Soviets fought the elite of the Wermacht

>>514750680
Going to war with a neutral party and friends of a nation is a greater act of war.

>>514750783
Yeah because they killed POW's.

>>514750912
Yeah war is war, and fun things are fun
There's more to war than painting maps, as i say always

>>514733117 (OP)
>laughs in flying tiger
We fought the wrong people.

>>514737591
Go shit in the street brown monkey

>>514750679
Oh no, an instant painless death, how cruel and unusual

>>514733228
>That's a well established fact
there are no facts in Russian historiography, a Russian history book puts the Quran to shame when it comes to truthfullness.
>>514733228
>Not even the nukes scared them as much as the Soviet might.
The might of the Soviet depended on the food, planes and arms supplied by the USA. Without the US there would be no functioning Russian army.

>>514742289
I saw and rejected your nonsense.
I'm sure the guys getting killed by the commies while Japan raped their land were thinking how happy they were to all be on the same side.

russia is such a pathetic country. we already knew they were low, but to stoop so low as to cower before the feet of china because of their embarrassment in ukranie is something else. put these people and their fake country out of its misery already

>>514752769
You should wait until the war is over to say that.

>>514752500
Communists don't value human life. To a communist betraying everyone and trying to win by murdering as much of your opposing countrymen as possible is a valid strategy. This is because communism and marxism carry out the will of the Death Drive.

>>514741375
>but always fight dirty. Its always either a sneak attack, an assault on a far weaker nation
at least they don't kill civilians on purpose like it is part of Russian war strategy

>>514741375
>they brag about honour, but always fight dirty. Its always either a sneak attack, an assault on a far weaker nation or an invasion of a country going through civil war. They always fight dirty. Always.
It's the asiatic way of war, notice the similarities to russia, it's not a coincidence.

>>514752404
>there are no facts in Russian historiography, a Russian history book puts the Quran to shame when it comes to truthfullness.

Funny, AND true.
Give the russians a decade, and they will claim they landed a man on the moon, and did it first.

>>514753452
they say that to undermine you.

>>514733363
spbp