Thread 514864246

Why do Americans keep complaining about the economy when the stock market is hitting all-time highs? Literally just log into your investment accounts and check your balance - you're doing great. Why is there so much whining during what are very close to ideal economic conditions?

>>514864246 (OP)
These trannies lost and are mad lol

>>514864356
lost what? troon shit is still legal under trump, even for kids.

>>514864452
Cope, seethe, dilate

>>514864246 (OP)
That's the same money that's building ballrooms and tennis courts at the White house and put fuel in Jeff's jet.

>>514864246 (OP)
A cheeseburger is $10 and a new truck is $100,000. You call that ideal?

>>514864246 (OP)
Yeah yesterday was a good day. Hopefully it keeps up.

>>514865331
Obviously, consumers would prefer lower consumer prices, but considering that wages and investments are soaring even more quickly than inflation, it's simply not a real problem.

>>514864246 (OP)
>Wall St. Jews are doing great!
>Never mind that the cost of groceries is spiraling out of control
>never mind that a new car starts at $50K
>Never mind that more and more people are going into credit card debt just to survive
>Never mind that the job market is fucked

>>514864246 (OP)
>>514865468
you can tell by the price of gold in dollars that inflation is high

>>514865468
>inflation, it's simply not a real problem.

Deflation and inflation and other economic terms are FUCKING MEANINGLESS when one class of persons HAS FIRST ACCESS TO and IS BEING PAID FOR the issuance of any newly-created currency. Money does not mean the same thing or have the same scarcity (or have the same value) for all persons in the economy. As some do not earn their money (via real productivity), money is more liquid and less valuable for them, as they have exclusive first-access to the newly-issued currency and they also decide TO WHOM it is allocated via our current debt-based NYFed primary dealer financial system.
As long as we have a cartel of private banks getting paid to issue the currency, the FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE will lose EVEN MORE value for those of us that truly do earn it via productivity.

IT IS THOSE OF US WORKING that choose to prop up this class of parasitic, skillless invalids debauching our currencies worldwide via the Federal Reserve and its increasingly-worthless private currency, the Federal Reserve Note.

US Treasury-issued, debt-free, fiat US Notes are the already-legal, interest-free sovereign currency solution to a debt-based currency and monetary policy parasite, the Federal Reserve Uniparty.

Why do all of the proposed solutions to the debt and deficit spending only include the NYFed?
1 more congressional Public Issues and Cash Management Bills for deficit spending uses the NYFed's primary dealers to buy that new bond debt
2 US Treasury buybacks of treasuries from NYFed primary dealers uses the NYFed as a fiscal agent
and
3 a trillion dollar platinum coin would be, of course, held by the NYFed
kek

>>514864246 (OP)
Niggers complain for more gibs. Wiggers complain for more meth spending money. Women complain because tiktok told them to complain. Faggots complain because they want to touch children. Almost no one knows what is really happening with the economy. They just like whining.

Oh, and gas all jews.

>>514865468
>wages and investments are soaring
Not wages. Thats verifiably false, anon. I can also personally tell you that salary ranges have hardly moved due to inflation.

>>514866127
>as they have exclusive first-access to the newly-issued currency and they also decide TO WHOM it is allocated via our current debt-based NYFed primary dealer financial system.

>>514865468
>wages are soaring
Huh?

>>514864246 (OP)
Chude into stocks are traders who keep jumping around and losing money

>>514866376
>>wages are soaring
kek
for the Fed lol

>>514865497
>Wall St. Jews are doing great!
Yes, the jew grift is doing well.

>Never mind that the cost of groceries is spiraling out of control
No, they aren't. A few tnhings are up because of shitfaggot policies. Like beef are going up because homosexuals in the Biden admin cut off grazing lands.

>never mind that a new car starts at $50K
Conscious decision by the car companies, assuming everyone would just jump to 7 or 10 year loans. Not all jews are smart and this scheme has backfired.

>Never mind that more and more people are going into credit card debt just to survive
"Survive" doesn't include five streaming services and daily starbucks.

>Never mind that the job market is fucked

IT and desk jockey markets are mega-fucked, thanks to poo and jew schemes. The rest of the market is picking up nicely.

Stop being a faggot.

>>514864246 (OP)
I love how good the stock market is doing. In fact, I love it so much I bought a new rifle the other day. Nothing makes me happier than range training while thinking about how good wall street investors portfolios are doing :^)

>>514865545
Another retard. The dollar is being intentionally attacked to being it down. It isn't inflation. Three decades of a strong dollar policy has fucked us bad.

lol
18,000 more people in 2021 than 2020 made $10M or more
the year we were all locked down

the reason the economy keeps churning along is b/c the US taxpayers are like a giant fucking engine that is going to bulldoze right the fuck over the Fed

>>514864246 (OP)
i know lol why would normal people bitch about grocery prices when hedge funds managers are stacking when has that ever happened in the history of like, ever

<<----this is margin trading
<<<---lending money so people can gamble in the stock market
the Fed has been lying about this and was outed by a BIS paper, it really is $4.5 TRILLION

>>514866762
>the NYFed primary dealers have been lying about this and were outed by a BIS paper, it really is $4.5 TRILLION

Hello, I have been devising a new theory of money, and have come up with a new revelation.

1. Money is an article of faith. I give you my prized cow, you give me money. What makes some little papers worth a cow? Faith that they will be elsewhere redeemable. Money is faith. I go to work, I slave for 12 hours a day, for some slips of paper. I have faith that they will buy stuff.

2. The continuously dwindling value of our money reduces faith in that money. As the money loses value, so too does the people lose faith in that money. The current project seems to want to keep dwindling the value of money forever, which means faith in money will keep dwindling forever.

3. As people lose faith in money, they will cease to participate in monetary transactions, such as working for money or selling for money, and strive to detach themselves from the system of money as much as possible.

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesn’t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>can’t be hacked
>don’t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.
update pic rel to $241 B

>>514866762
Out of control retail margin spending is what caused the liquidity crunch during the great depression. Every day people could no longer spend. Hedge fund losing their unicorn money might crimp investment spending but it would have little do w th consumer spending.... unless another nigger in the white house decides to give them $3T to make them whole again--then say hello to inflation again.

Stop being a retarded faggot.

>>514867111
1901 called and wants its economic policy back.

Money is a debt facility now. You can't incur or service debt without it. Given everyone is so fucking hooked on debt, money isn't going anywhere.

>>514867212
<<<---update pic rel to $241 B
only atlanta and St. louis Fed franchises came back above water (this is ironic b/c these regional Fed franchises have many banks and little capital, so this may go to show that where money is more dispersed among the people, it is more stable)

>>514864812
Under trump your faggot ass can do that

>>514867400
Money is not a debt facility for most people. For most people money is a reward earned by their labor, which they use to buy their needs and wants. I am trying to explain to the fiat bankers why a stable currency is important. I believe that continuously weakening a currency will create a psychological black hole in the general population. Where once they had faith in the currency, now they lose faith every time the currency loses value. This disincentivizes working for money, selling for money, and saving up money. The endgame is everyone trying to get away from the infinitely depreciating asset as much as possible. Money has become a hot potato no one wants to have. This directly disincentivizes any sort of commercial, industrial, wealth generating activities.

Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

picrel the Federal Reserve Notes that US Taxpayers paid to borrow their own fucking currency

>>514867680
>to the fiat bankers

'fiat' isn't the problem
WHO IS ISSUING the 'fiat' IS THE PROBLEM and that the Fed's private fiat IS INTEREST-BEARING is the fucking problem

FIAT, CREDIT-BASED INTEREST-FREE US NOTES ISSUED BY THE US TREASURY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND ARE INTENDED TO BE AN INTEREST-FREE TOOL TO FACILITATE COMMERCE

FIAT, DEBT-BASED, USURIOUS, INTEREST-BEARING FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES ARE FUCKING BORROWED FROM THE PRIVATELY-INCORPORATED NY FEDERAL RESERVE FRANCHISE AND ONLY ENRICH THE NYFED’S PRIMARY DEALERS AND THEIR CRONY/POLITICAL ILK AND ENSLAVE THE POPULATION IN BOND DEBT

Fiat is given value BY A NATION'S CITIZENS.
If the nation's treasury is the one issuing it, fiat is not a problem.

>>514867680
Who the fuck doesn't have debt?

>>514865468
>wages are soaring
It's impossible for (real) wages to ever reach the level they were in 1970.
Inflation, mass immigration, and off-shoring of industries has conspired to keep the average american's labor the dame price for 5 decades.

>>514867736
>Money does not make food.
>Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.

>>514867837
well.... lol
note how the 1%ile line and the 2-10%ile line mirror each other

>>514867818
Listen mate we are on the same side but were talking about a system which 99% of people misunderstand and yelling in caps doesn't make it more easily understood.

I think there is a general class of bankers, several million financiers throughout the West, and I dont think they understand how badly the infinite depreciation of currency affects mass perception of currency. In effect this system has inverted the social ladder. The man who spent his whole life earning and saving money is now seen as a fool, because money is an infinitely depreciating asset. This obviously will result in a general deindustrialization and demonetization of the economy. And you look around the streets and the moral values of society are reflecting that. Rich men and hard workers are seen as tools, while criminals are seen as power players. This system will result in the total disempowerment of the professional, financial classes by the people who operate outside of the money system.

the people already have the power to stop any tyranny by SIMPLY USING CASH AND LEAVING YOUR PHONE AT HOME sometimes
these two simple things destroy any surveillance plans
you already have the fucking power
it is YOU that chooses to continue using the grid to your own detriment
you already have the power right now
you have agency still
they just need your consent to implement it wholly, then having agency won't even matter

the current tech trend is for citizens to not hold or own information or organize it or remember it
they also do not store it on their own computers, but in a foreign cloud that tracks all changes in real time
they only have instantaneous ACCESS to information
people are not being conditioned to retain info or organize it for themselves

tptb are now waiting for anyone with a high amount of intellect and knowledge to die off, then they will just be left with the malleable, dumbed-down 'instantaneous access' population that can't put two and two together

USE FUCKING CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY

A NATION'S FIAT IS THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN FUCKING HANDS
and this is why the Fed seeks to even abolish paper Federal Reserve Notes (as seen in this image >>514866127), b/c fiat paper mostly SERVES THE FUCKING CITIZEN:

fiat is the common national bond and cooperation of the value of one's labor
if this fiat is issued by a private, debt-based central bank, then only the central bank profits from the labor of the citizens, not the national treasury or the citizens

>>514864246 (OP)
By this logic 2008 Zimbabwe was the greatest economy in recorded history. Across nearly every metric we are worse off than during the great depression, yet we are being expected to believe that we are actually doing well.

>>514864246 (OP)
Because "the economy" can be measured different ways. By measuring it in stock value, you're measuring it in profit by certain companies and that's good if you happen to have stock in that company, but even that value to you is limited because that profit you may have been able to build to earn an early retirement may be at your own expense if you happen to work for that company and depend on the product; the price of your shares have skyrocketed, but it's after your company laid off your department and made their products more expensive. One may look at the stock and say the economy is doing great while ignoring the negative impact on workers and consumers.

>>514867876
globalism fixed it. you no longer need to produce anything only need to produce money

>>514868093
>saving money
the very fucking act of hoarding currency devalues it
hurrrrrrrrrrrrr
the reason it is called currency is BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING MOVING THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY

First:
US Gold Notes and US Silver Notes are interest-free, metals-backed, NON-fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY.
US Notes are interest-free, fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY, they can also be metals-backed and were intended to be used as a tool for the citizens to trade.
Federal Reserve Notes are DEBT-BASED, fiat notes issued out of thin air by the privately-incorporated, now-BANKRUPT Federal Reserve 12 regional franchises and are currently bankrupting the US Treasury.

All of the above are ALL DENOMINATED IN US DOLLARS (aka $US), which is a fucking UNIT.

And secondly, there are FOUR ways currency is created in the US:
1 Congressionally-approved Public Issues treasuries for deficit spending via the issuance of marketable US treasuries sold by the NYFed’s primary dealers aka Debt Held by the Public (now ~$35 T)
2 Intragovernmental Debt GAS securities (aka ‘Unfunded Liabilities’) that are created/issued for currency to run public agencies (over $152 T now) and ARE PURCHASED WITH YOUR PAYROLL TAXES
3 The commercial tier 2 depository banking sector, it makes small loans in which only the interest remains in the banking system after the loan is paid back (the principal and repayments are destroyed when the loan is repaid) —this can remain when the Fed is dissolved
4 QE, this is fucking counterfeiting by the now-insolvent NYFed's primary dealers since 2008 via IOER (now called IORB) and we pay all sorts of interest on this, increasing every day with raising rates

pic rel
trillions in vacant underwater CRE held by primary dealers, yet rent nor house prices ever decrease
>what is extend and pretend policy?
lol

>>514868172
The rich are doing great while the middle class and poor are screwed

>>514868158
>this is why the Fed seeks to even abolish paper Federal Reserve Notes (as seen in this image >>514866127 (You)), b/c fiat paper mostly SERVES THE FUCKING CITIZEN:

notice on the top half of pic rel the NYFed squeezes out the citizens' currency and pays its ilk instead, while also buying houses and bonds
it clearly prioritizes enriching its private owner banks over the citizens having a currency
why doesn't trump ever mention this?
b/c fucking trump thinks the Fed is the house
the FUCKING US TAXPAYER IS THE FUCKING HOUSE

>>514864246 (OP)
Your "good economy" is just corporations cannibalizing themselves to juice their share prices with stock buybacks.

>>514868400
The point of currency is to measure value. If someone wants to store their currency, who are you to force them to do otherwise? What if they want to save up for a local hurricane relief fund or a communal pool to fix a local road or build a local industrial project? What you are proposing is that people be disincentivized from saving money. Doesn't that sound silly? What if there is a catastrophe or they want to save up for something big or maybe they just want to leave something for their children? By making it impossible to save money, you create a state where everyone is poor, all the time.

>>514868353
they have replaced actual success with money and are purchasing assets

>>514864246 (OP)
It's all from a speculative bubble in the tech industry that AI is going to revolutionize the economy, which is not going to happen soon.

>>514865468
>Not an American
>Rising cost of living and inflation is not a problem because muh S&P500 is up
No one asked for your opinion, Jagmeet

>>514864246 (OP)
Most americans dont make their living off the stock market

>>514868648
>point of currency is
to quantify cooperation, value, national unity...
none of which the Fed are doing lol

>>514868648
there should be a limit on hoarding currency and then it should have to be converted to real assets

money can be backed by labor as it is now or it can be backed by commodities, metals, the possibilities are fucking endless

>>514868797
There have been millions of boomers "hoarding" (saving) money since they started working in the 1960s and the earnings they made back then are worth almost nothing today due to inflation. The effect this has on mass psychology is to suggest that working and saving are useless. That destroys capitalism.

>>514867934
Doesn't answer the question. Who doesn't have debt?

>>514868951
>There have been millions of boomers "hoarding" (saving) money since they started working in the 1960s
it's way worse than you think lel

<<<<—The red arrow is the running tally just for the US Intragovernmental Debt. These ‘unfunded liabilities’ include Medicare (~70% of picrel) and Social Security (~25%) and Disability (~5%).
$152 TRILLION (US taxpayers paid $237 Billion in interest on this Intragovernmental Debt in FY 2024 ALONE). This is the amount that is owed out, as of today, based on what was taken in, in (mostly) payroll taxes.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE the ~$36 TRILLION in Marketable Debt (aka Public Issues) that the public is always bitching about (US taxpayers paid $896 B in interest on this in FY 2024 ALONE).

So, the running tally for US currency ‘borrowed’ from the NOW-INSOLVENT private Federal Reserve's debt franchise is ~$187 Trillion.
$187 fucking TRILLION.

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/interest-expense-debt-outstanding/interest-expense-on-the-public-debt-outstanding#data-table

5 years ago
Net worth -15000

Today
Net worth
200k

It gets better bros

more like down jones

>>514864246 (OP)
99% of americans hold zero stocks

>>514864246 (OP)
I dunno shit about the econ but someone said that the econ is fine but the inflation rates are fucking awful, and thats pretty much the extent of my knowledge so far about this kinda stuff. I hope a nice business learned anon can explain in more detail.

>>514868951
the boomers have a ponzi scheme
it really is that simple

spme pertinent pasta:
Credit-based fiat, interest-free US Notes issued by the US Treasury for the citizens to use for daily commerce are VERY DIFFERENT from debt-based, borrowed, private, interest-bearing Federal Reserve Notes issued by the bloodsucking BANKRUPT NYFed, which are then also used to primarily reinvest back into the NYFed’s securities casino.

‘Investing’ is just people further bankrupting the US by putting the NYFed’s private Federal Reserve Notes back into their debt-based system via the treasury market.

the legislative volley between boomers and billionaires that leaves everyone out:
NYFed owners say they need more taxes from social security/medicare payments to pay them interest
boomers say big bank fleecing of the country is fine as long as they're getting social security
and they both continue to make laws (PICREL) to protect their positions, so now, effectively all wealth is going to the old and dying

first world and third world are about to become second world
i call this the great evening
>lazy skimmers dread real price discovery
we are going to nationalize the bankrupt fed

>>514869332
>inflation: 3%
>market: +10%
Hmm we should impeach drmpf…

now the Federal Reserve franchises have their dream come true, note the right side of the chart, high reserves and high IORB
the last time they tried to have both, JPM got raided by the FBI for rigging treasury and silver markets which caused the repo spike, all big banks failed again quietly, they got bailed out again for trillions in 2019 and then we had covid, which shut down the economy and conveniently hid their illiquidity lol

the US hasn't been the reserve currency for a long time
40% euro is also daily usage

>>514869614
>all big banks failed again quietly, they got bailed out again for trillions in 2019

<<<---lol

US credit unions and community banks (which are regulated outside the Fed and insured by their own pool) are the real economic engines of the local economies and are greater in number (5,000, not counting branches) than bank holding companies under the Fed (4,000 and getting fucking smaller every day as the NYFed’s primary dealers acquire the other bank holding companies and regional banks pic related kek)
If the Federal Reserve Note does crash, Americans can then move to the credit unions, community banks, etc, and we can then issue debt-free US Notes again for commerce, as they were intended to be. These credit unions and community banks also don't hold all the shit MBS and CRE debt, they are much more solvent.

>>514869949
>These credit unions and community banks also don't hold all the shit MBS and CRE debt, they are much more solvent.
lel pic related shows the banks will extend credit to the worst if it suits them
this is the 2008 failures on steroids
the Nyfed has $10T in IOUs and $12B in operating capital

>>514869734
That's not a reserve currency.

>>514870166
>lel pic related shows the banks will extend credit to the worst if it suits them
>this is the 2008 failures on steroids

>>514870200
it means that transactions are increasingly using all sorts of currencies----- most likely their own (which is known as Original Sin amongst central bankers)---- nations are not just using the Federal Reserve Note

>>514870347
the BIS wants a country to be unable to borrow in its own currency

zambia gets it

>>514870347
Groan. That's still not what a "reserve" currency is.

>>514870667
i know what a reserve currency is
please do enlighten me if I am incorrect
i'll wait

pic related is how global finance is all working together behind the scenes right now while the politicians pretend to be at war

it's raining here
i can go all fucking day

>>514864246 (OP)
All growth is from 10 companies or so, and all on the basis of the AI grift. It’s the last bubble and when it pops it’s taking everything else down with it. There are no other bullish narratives

op 2pbtid slide thread

>>514870996
>all on the basis of the AI grift.
lol

>>514864246 (OP)
The stock market is not a good representation of the actual economy, which has been increasingly dogshit over the years.

>>514870824
>pic related is how global finance is all working together behind the scenes right now while the politicians pretend to be at war
pic rel too
buying up every fintech in sight

lol
ok i'll stop

>>514865331
>A cheeseburger is $10 and a new truck is $100,000. You call that ideal?

>>514870996
>the AI grift.
lol

>>514871777
Yes, this is a good example of the grift. Also checked

>>514864246 (OP)
stocks are only going up because the dollar is getting more and more worthless. the only people benefitting are the rich, because they own most of the stocks anyways.

<<<----palantir and trump using this for all sorts of things
pic rel is from the palantir's people-tracking app contract with the US govt

>>514872051
and this is why the govt says it can ONLY hire palantir

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505237484/
^^^ A thread about the NYFed and its ilk now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued, debt-backed stablecoin tokens. This is going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks to save themselves from a failing system that they created? One last fuck you to the country as they insulate themselves in their private tokens?
And in the next orchestrated crisis, are the boomers’ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the payment platform is the ultimate claimant to any reserve assets in a crisis or bankruptcy?

When is the currency going to be restored to the people? Don't US taxpayers have a right to a debt-free currency issued by their own treasury?

Pic related was just passed.

This is just entitled boomer classists driving the fucking country into the ground for money (mostly from the now-bankrupt NYFed's QE policies) and now destroying the US taxpayer's currency (the fucking US$, which is A FUCKING UNIT) on the world stage with the Fed’s issued-into-oblivion, worthless Federal Reserve Note.

How fraudulent do you have to be that you can actually destroy a fucking unit of measurement? lol holy fuck

tick tock

>>514870000
checkem

a lot going on

>>514872789
or embrace pic rel

>>514872957
and this, too! at such a time

>>514864246 (OP)
>Why do Americans keep complaining about the economy when the stock market is hitting all-time highs? Literally just log into your investment accounts and check your balance - you're doing great. Why is there so much whining during what are very close to ideal economic conditions?
its called a bubble i.e. 1989, 2001, 2008 etc
they come like clockwork, its just boom, bust, fleece the rubes, rinse repeat, rich get richer, poor get poorer every cycle
in 2008 the rich got bailed out and the poor got foreclosed and bankrupted, in the largest wealth transfer from the poor to the rich, up till now
Tesla is the poster baby for this everything-bubble

>>514864246 (OP)
I don’t think most Americans even know how to invest cocksucker they should teach It in high school it’s so fundamental to the American grift (dream)

>>514872957
is this a way of saying the people of colombia will be protected by the us govt from the cartel only if they allow themselves to be entrenched in bond debt?
cuase that's how it looks to me

>>514864246 (OP)
Because funny-money I can't do anything with gor 30-40 years doesn't mean as much to me as the money in my pocket now and the money in my pocket now can buy jack shit compared to what it could do five years ago.

>>514873496
>funny-money I can't do anything with gor 30-40 years
aaaaaaaand there goes the fucking currency
it's like ruining a neighborhood, but in devaluation rather than blight
debt-based currencies are doomed to fail as the $241 BILLION IN THE HOLE-INSOLVENT Federal Reserve is failing now

>>514873156
>I don’t think most Americans even know how to invest cocksucker they should teach It in high school it’s so fundamental to the American grift (dream)
high school has a hard enough time teaching kids to read
but there should be a capitalism101 shop class in high school where you get to play invest
along with police-law101 and credit-card101 and home-buying-renting101 and marriage-divorce101 and health-care-nutrition101 classes

The debt-based Federal Reserve (the Fed) and the IRS were both created in 1913.
The new IRS conveniently forced everyone to use their new Federal Reserve Notes to pay their new US Federal Income Tax.
The Fed was supposed to stabilize the US currency by backing every Federal Reserve Note (FRN) issued (TO BUY US TREASURIES) with 40% gold (40 cents of gold for each $1 FRN issued).
In 1933, everyone’s gold was confiscated by the Treasury (except $100 worth/person) b/c the Fed convinced US Pres FDR that Americans were hoarding gold & they were forced to trade their gold in for $20.67/troy oz. Federal Reserve Notes were also now no longer exchangeable for gold.
In 1934 the Gold Reserve Act allowed FDR to establish the gold value of the dollar solely by proclamation & raised the exchange rate to $35/oz troy, extracting wealth & value once again from the American public.
In 1944, the IMF & the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) were formed at the Bretton Woods Conference.
In 1958, Bretton Woods pegs all foreign currencies to the dollar, & the dollar pegged to gold at $35/troy oz. Debt-based Central Banks under the BIS pop up all over the world to facilitate the Fed & the BoE in their check kiting, fractional reserve, debt-based central-banking ponzi.
In 1971, Nixon depegs the dollar to gold entirely, making the US currency free-floating fiat, which completely negated the original Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which was to back each Federal Reserve Note issued with gold.
In 1974, Pres Ford legalizes gold ownership again without limitation & gold is NOW valued at $42/ozt.
The NOW BANKRUPT Federal Reserve & its biggest shareholders, the NYFed’s primary dealers, for the last 50 years & up to today, continue to issue our currency out of thin air, while charging us interest to do so. Rewarding insolvent, failing banks & investment firms using QE and taxpayer money over & over again, acquiring assets during crises, while rigging global markets.

>>514874332
>The Fed was supposed to stabilize the US currency by backing every Federal Reserve Note (FRN) issued (TO BUY US TREASURIES) with 40% gold (40 cents of gold for each $1 FRN issued).
lol note the dollar IS A UNIT

>>514874332
>The NOW BANKRUPT Federal Reserve
you are confused about the FED, the only way for the FED to go bankrupt is a military defeat of the US military

The Federal Reserve (the Fed) cannot go bankrupt in the traditional sense like a private entity. It’s a unique institution with the ability to create money and manage the U.S. monetary system, which fundamentally alters the concept of bankruptcy for it. Here's a concise breakdown:

Money Creation: The Fed can issue U.S. dollars, as it controls the money supply. If it faces financial shortfalls, it can theoretically create more money to cover obligations, making insolvency in a conventional sense impossible.
Structure and Backing: The Fed operates as a central bank, backed by the U.S. government and its ability to tax. Its balance sheet includes assets like U.S. Treasury securities and liabilities like currency in circulation. Even if its liabilities exceed assets, it can continue operations due to its monetary authority.
Operational Independence: The Fed earns income from interest on its asset holdings (e.g., bonds). While it can technically run a deficit (as seen in 2022–2023 when interest payments on reserves outpaced income), it records these as "deferred assets" and continues functioning without needing a bailout.
Hypothetical Risks: Bankruptcy-like scenarios would require extreme conditions, like a complete loss of confidence in the U.S. dollar or government, leading to hyperinflation or systemic collapse. This is more about economic stability than the Fed itself "going bankrupt."

In short, the Fed’s ability to create money and its structural role make traditional bankruptcy impossible, though severe economic crises could challenge its effectiveness.

>>514873816
>debt-based currencies are doomed to fail as the $241 BILLION IN THE HOLE-INSOLVENT Federal Reserve is failing now
kek it's really $2t in the hole but the Fed doesn';t use GAAP
lolololoplolol
we are approaching levels of clownworld never thought possible
the real question is how much damage are boomers going to do and will it be irreversible?

>>514874568
the fed is already bankrupt
those that hold the belief that the Fed can hold a negative equity position fully out themselves as Fed supporters

>>514874568
>The Fed can issue U.S. dollars,
no
the fed issues Federal Reserve Notes

>>514874568
>If it faces financial shortfalls, it can theoretically create more money to cover obligations, making insolvency in a conventional sense impossible.
kek

>>514874568
>The Fed earns income from interest on its asset holdings (e.g., bonds).
lol
this is straight off the internet fucking kek
the fed has been bankrupt and not remitted one fucking cent to the treasury since oct 2022
they also will NOT remit one cent to the treasury unitl THEY ARE PAID this ~$241 B
as outlined in:
>>514868544
>>514867408
and
>>514867212

you have no idea what you are talking about
it is so hard to discern between poor AI and genuine stupidity
>like a complete loss of confidence in the Federal Reserve Note
ftfy

pic rel
again:
notice on the top half of pic rel the NYFed squeezes out the citizens' currency and pays its ilk instead, while also buying houses and bonds
it clearly prioritizes enriching its private owner banks over the citizens having a currency
why doesn't trump ever mention this?
b/c fucking trump thinks the Fed is the house
the FUCKING US TAXPAYER IS THE FUCKING HOUSE

>>514875253
>the FUCKING US TAXPAYER IS THE FUCKING HOUSE
<<<----good-natured satire

>>514870824
A reserve currency is HELD as a backstop to trade swaps. The swaps can be in any currency, though admittedly it is often the dollar. It used to be very important that it was the dollar when were desperate for foreign oil. Those days are over. We dont actually need anything from anyone else, so trade can return to a saner parity like it was for most of our history. This would involve a weaker dollar.

>>514864246 (OP)
Everything is expensive and the dollar is worthless

>>514864246 (OP)
>economy is good universally because of muh stonks
>the only people actually making money have massive resources to sell their bags to the normie investors
I mean I know you're probably a bot or a tribal political shill, but cmon guy

>>514875896
>so trade can return to a saner parity like it was for most of our history.

debt-based central banks are going to become a thing of the past
currency issued in the form of debt, as we have today, is doomed to fail (as it is now)
once a currency is used as an investment, it is no longer useful as a currency
the treasury market globally will become meaningless
nations will begin to use their own debt-free sovereign currencies issued by their treasuries
the Fed will eventually be dissolved
the US Treasury will issue debt-free US Notes again

Currency backed by labor (productivity and services) makes a nation strong
Currency backed by debt makes a nation slaves

>>514864246 (OP)
See what you can exit your stocks to. Thats the problem. People are stuck.

We issued debt-free US Notes before (and during) the Fed and we will issue them again. The only reason we hired the Fed was to stabilize the currency, because the Fed was going to back the currency with gold (which they reneged on in 1933). NOW THAT THE US CURRENCY IS FIRMLY ESTABLISHED, we can can stop issuing worthless Federal Reserve Notes and again issue debt-free US Notes, like we did before the Fed. Issue our own currency (like an actual sovereign nation) and slowly recycle Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation.

Look at pic related, we issued SIX types of notes SIMULTANEOUSLY for our currency needs. We can issue debt-free US Notes simultaneously with Federal Reserve Notes (only for deficit spending and to be only used in the US). We can then slowly recycle Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation, pay down our debt and not issue any new debt.
The US Dollar will be around long after the Federal Reserve is gone. The world is rejecting the Federal Reserve Note, not the US Dollar. The US Dollar is a UNIT. The US Dollar will ALWAYS exist, it is not fucking ISSUED, it is a unit of measurement.

US NOTES ARE NOT A NOVEL IDEA, THEY JUST DON'T BENEFIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHICH IS WHY US NOTES ARE NEVER MENTIONED DESPITE BEING THE EXACT SOLUTION THAT WE NEED RIGHT FUCKING NOW

and the wiki title was when EACH FEDERAL RESERVE FRANCHISE HAD THEIR OWN NOTES TOO

The Fed Reserve’s Board of Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Fed’s Board of Governors is a neutered and ineffective regulatory body, and under regulatory capture by the NYFed.
The 12 Federal Reserve Regional branches are the public franchisors, public franchisors which sell private franchisee stock to private banks in their region.
The private banks buy stock in their regional Fed franchise, private stock which earns dividends of 6% annually.
The NYFed is the largest and most powerful regional Federal Reserve branch franchise. It conducts all trading for the Federal Reserve and is custodian for its assets. Its biggest shareholders are the private big banks, aka the primary dealers, that issue our currency in the form of bond debt, who are the market makers for these US treasuries and since 2008 have been using those treasuries and QE to counterfeit our currency.
The Fed likes to confuse the publicly-appointed Fed Board of Governors with the privately-incorporated shareholders of the 12 regional Fed franchises, so people don’t realize we are paying private banks to borrow our own currency at interest.
Pic related

>>514864246 (OP)
>just log into your investment account!
American things. You guys are born with stocks. It's not like that elsewhere.

>>514877528
>The NYFed is the largest and most powerful regional Federal Reserve branch franchise. It conducts all trading for the Federal Reserve and is custodian for its assets. Its biggest shareholders are the private big banks, aka the primary dealers, that issue our currency in the form of bond debt, who are the market makers for these US treasuries and since 2008 have been using those treasuries and QE to counterfeit our currency.

The NY Fed's Quantitative Easing (QE) counterfeiting scheme:
NYFed buys treasuries (and MBSs) outright from (only) NYFed primary dealers by creating reserves out of thin air, which seditiously undermines Congress’ sole power to regulate our currency. This is QE.
NY Fed’s primary dealers then take those reserves and earn Interest on Excess Reserves aka IOER (now called IORB) on them at the NYFed, interest which IS PAID IN CASH to the primary dealers--cash, which they DO MAKE INTEREST ON, this is their counterfeiting scheme (also, every penny paid in interest (cash) to the primary dealers for excess reserves also reduces the Fed’s remittance to the US Treasury).
The NYFed used QE to bail themselves out during the financial collapse of 2008 and is how its primary dealers have been effectively counterfeiting our currency ever since.

fucking kek

<<<<<--------lol

>>514878007
Doing some good work anon, fuck the fed.

this is fucking bullshit
all of it

>>514878109
just having a rainy day as a construction worker

the fucking Fed NEVER PAID INTEREST NOT EVEN ONCE BEFORE 2008

the Fed pays fucking interest to banks SO THEY WON'T FUCKING LEND IT OUT

A recent thread:
<<<<——-https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504503488/
The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve is building a $2.5 B complex in Washington DC and funding it with borrowed US taxpayer money. The Fed is fucking broke and putting Italian beehives in its extravagant rooftop gardens and building private elevators to VIP dining rooms, yet bloviating about the importance of citizens being able to communicate in a republic. lol

To add to the elitism and absurdity, Elon Musk, with his toothless, empty threats on his way out the door of DOGE, glibly stated, “someone should look into the Fed.”
Really? Is that it? What an absolute fucking joke.

It is fucking amazing that Trump’s economic advisor (Miran) wants to now indebt the US with 100 year TOKENIZED bonds, so we can be skimmed for another fucking century by these insolvent frauds.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/27/business/federal-reserve-blows-2-5b-on-palace-of-versailles-hq/
https://archive.is/fpJ4J

This project DWARFED all other government building projects ever. And the real kicker is the broke-ass Fed is BORROWING this money from taxpayers for the project.

And note: Powell just got caught lying to Congress about this and revealed during the hearing that IT IS NOW $3.1 BILLION
Wtf

>>514879182
LOL
>23,000 fucking employees and they can't afford to issue the citizens' fucking currency

i have some things to do
but will be in and out to bump

>>514864246 (OP)
Good posts ITT excluding the retarded OP. As genetic trash I want to kill myself so bad, so nothing would make me happier than seeing the crash I've been hoping for. Been wishing for it since I started meme posting Ebola-chan 11 years ago.

I just can't take this programmer non-high wage cuck slavery while being an ugly male without a wholesome wife and kids to provide for. I just want this shit to burn, please just burn. Suffering and death for all.

Daily reminder:
The State Capitalist/Communist Regime of the Federal Reserve Uniparty

There is Free Market Capitalism, which we do NOT practice. This is when you have competition & the rewarding of success.
We practice State Capitalism (low-grade communism) in which the central bank rewards their buddies whether or not they are successful. They also launder their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets while doing so, which are then held by their private corporation. This is State Capitalism.

Again, NOT to be confused with free market capitalism, which is probably only truly practiced somewhere in the Andes.

The Federal Reserve is a group of 12 private, incorporated, regional franchises (they can each be sued) & is the driving force behind the corporate takeover of our government.

State Capitalism (aka low grade communism directed by the central bank):
>the state has considerable control over the allocation of credit & investment
>planning to protect & advance the interests of big business against the interests of consumers.
>government controls the economy & essentially acts like a single huge corporation
>publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares

The Fed con laid out in 105 posts.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/306098770/
Correction in archived thread: change mortgagee to mortgagor

Fed info & links to house & senate crypto summaries:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329381702/

Criminal activities of the NYFed's primary dealers
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/342538518/

The NYFed investing in China:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/359651784/#359683568

Ukraine & its owner, the NYFed: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/

Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/389999787/

June 2023 Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/

The irony here is that we are, in real time right now, witnessing the failure of low grade communism, aka state capitalism.

we are witnessing the failure of low grade communism, state capitalism by the Fed, in real time
>SOS we've been hijacked

the NYFed is operating on $12B in capital and in the hole itself ~$144B today
this is all that the largest owners of the NYFed (the primary dealers mostly), would be held accountable for, if they failed, lol, you would think the FBI would give a fuck about this, since the NYFed claims to have almost $10T in assets

Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs

>>514866500
Lmao hey thanks for pulling all that out of your ass, faggot boomer

>>514864246 (OP)
That's what happens at the end of a bubble

>>514879731
>the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs
pic rel from kupiec jan 2024 paper

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 1 of 4
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/489468608
This thread summarizes the first of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

In this first paper, Kupiec and Pollock show that the Federal Reserve franchises are insolvent if GAAP accounting is used, which the Fed does not use. The Fed is now balancing their books with an imaginary, 'magic' accounting column called 'Deferred Assets' to perpetuate their bankrupting of the US Treasury and the American taxpayer and to hide their losses and now uncollateralized Federal Reserve Notes. These are operating losses, which don't even include the capital losses from marking-to market their now-worthless securities either, further skewing the real price of credit and hampering the Fed's ability to respond to shocks to the economy, as their balance sheet is full and there is no room to move.

The Fed franchises have only become more insolvent since the paper was released, their losses doubling since Jan 2024 to the tune of ~$214 Billion as of this week.
This thread summarizes how the Fed is insolvent, operating illegally, opening itself up for lawsuits and destroying the American economy when it could just roll off its balance sheet and take cash losses like that. Instead, the Fed franchises choose to take cash losses by still paying their owners dividends and paying out interest to NYFed primary dealers via IORB and to MMFs in Reverse Repo transactions.

’Federal Reserve Losses and Monetary Policy’ Jan 2024
Paul H. Kupiec, Senior Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Alex J. Pollock, Senior Fellow, Mises Institute
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4712022

>>514881099
Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 2 of 4
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491506260/
This thread summarizes the second of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises (aka ‘Fed bank/s’ ITT). This paper uses Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) linear regression analysis to examine how shocks from three variables: federal debt, the Federal Reserve assets and/or real GDP affect CPI (chosen to represent prices and inflation).

Mr. Webster’s paper describes how quickly prices respond to shocks in the above three variables and how quickly a new (often higher) price equilibrium is found and how the rest of the system converges to support this new price equilibrium. This paper seeks to measure how quickly the now-insolvent Fed banks enable or ‘accommodate’ the deficit-ridden US government by purchasing securities and how this accommodation then contributes to inflation and price hikes, as measured by CPI.

The Fed banks’ ‘accommodative’ QE purchases of excess US Marketable Debt make room for even more new debt to be issued and *hopefully* sold. This is called Fed ‘accommodation’ and is now becoming a ‘debt death spiral’, which is when a nation (or corporation) has to issue new debt to raise the funds to pay the interest on its old debt. Unfortunately, this new constant debt issuance floods the economy with new currency, mostly enriching the proximal investment class and exacerbating inflation for the rest of us. These QE policies have also led to the insolvency of the Federal Reserve today, massive capital losses and full balance sheets with no room for the Fed to move, further handicapping the debt-based central bank.

The Myth of Fed Political Independence
Thomas J. Webster, Professor Emeritus, Lubin School of Business, Pace University, New York, NY.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4916388

>>514881165
Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 3 of 4
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/494723606/
This thread summarizes the third in a series of four recent economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

The third paper explores options for reformation or replacement (abolition!) of the insolvent Fed. The paper begins with a historical analysis that chronicles the Fed’s many past policy failures & their respective crises & how the Fed’s response to said crises further enabled Fed accommodation of $trillions in deficit spending by Congress. The Fed’s four ‘prescriptive’ rounds of QE purchases of US treasuries & MBSs have now resulted in hundreds of billions of embarrassing Fed capital losses & ZERO remittance to the US Treasury since October 2022. But, somehow the Fed is still able to pay out dividends to its shareholders and able to pay out interest on Reserve Balances (IORB) to banks & interest on reverse repo transactions to money market funds (MMFs).

This paper has broad rule recommendations that aim to rein in the Fed & reduce both manipulation & subsidies by Fed market interference. However, these rule recommendations do not address the inflation and recessions already caused by the Fed’s monetary policies. These monetary policy shortcomings could be directly addressed by 1) the abolition of the Fed(!), 2) free banking & 3) commodity-backed money. This paper loosely represents a coalition of conservative groups & their suggestions on how to fix the insolvent Federal Reserve. It examines the current system of borrowing the Fed's private currency, the Federal Reserve Note, & how we can return the role of currency issuance back to the US Treasury, & thus back to the people.

Project 2025 Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise (April 2023)
Chapter 24: ‘Federal Reserve’
Paul Winfree (& additional contributors)
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeaders

>>514879731
Mornin' Bro, who owns the Federal Reserve Bank ?

>>514881226
The third paper was weak, but the first of its kind to suggest the abolition of the Fed. One of the paper’s shortcomings detailed in an excerpt from the Part 3 of 4 thread:

*************** I pause the thread here to point out another egregious error right in the middle of the economic paper being examined. As I have noted before in past threads, such high school-tier errors are so bad that it looks as though these economics papers are not even proofread at all.
Picrel is the error and the following text is what I think the author was trying to convey:

>If government issues too much paper currency, then citizens will doubt the gold peg and turn in their paper for gold from their banks, and these Tier 2 banks, in turn, will then redeem that same paper from the US Treasury and drain the government’s gold
Please feel free to correct me if I am missing something.

To make such an egregious error in the most important sentence in the entire paper begs the question, was it on purpose, mocking the public or are they trying to trick the public into turning in their gold again lololol?
The error in pic related is an example that NO ONE is watching or correcting these people. This author worked for Trump as an economic advisor in his first term. These are the people running the show. This is who we have to rely on to fix things and that is not good. This is why we must be vigilant even more so now, not to just let them install whatever fuck they think b/c THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>>514881254
30% JPM
42% citi
at last admission in 2018

>>514865468
Many Americans are retarded and doordash fast food every day while paying $500 per month car payments.

>>514881165
>>514881226
>>514881279
for part 4 of 4, Trump's economic advisor Miran's papers will be the focus

i have three papers by miran:

1) one paper criticizes treasury buybacks for cutting into his 10 yr yield as a hedge fund trader

2) another paper discusses war, tariffs, the triffin dilemma b/c we are the reserve currency

3) and the third paper, in which we NATIONALIZE the Fed and make the US STATE governors more important in their nationalized Fed franchise


Miran is being confirmed on fed board of govs iirc

miran wants to bring the Federal Reserve into the states
this is very bad

Trump and his economic advisor, Miran, are trying to circumvent #2 in pic rel with forwards (futures for treasuries).
They are trying to make it so the US can sell its gold without paying down the debt.

Miran and Trump want for the major debt holders to swap their short term bills and notes for 100-year bonds, they want to indebt Americans for the next century to the Fed (ultimately via debt-backed tokens of these treasuries (aka securities))

OP, you confuse the ~7M evangelicals that follow the book of revelation, which the other ~2.3 BILLION christians laugh at

>>514882177
oops wrong thread

CNBC incorrectly reported on March 11, 2022 that the NYFed’s assets totaled $8M, which is a MILLION TIMES LESS than its actual holdings, which was really a staggering $8 TRILLION. Steve Liesman did not bother to correct this, nor did he say the word trillion.

Some possible reasons for such an error, none of which are good:
1. CNBC is incompetent and they actually think the Fed only holds $8M in assets
2. Steve Liesman is incompetent and thinks the Fed only owns $8M in assets
3. The CNBC chart guy thought it was already in millions, lol
4. Credible and reliable financial journalism has been dead for a long time
5. CNBC has an active interest in defrauding the public
6. The units were purposely omitted because the average public might wake up if the chart accurately said $8T, while paired with “Is the Fed doing a shitty job?”

Pic related my tv
Update amount to $6.5 Trillion

Steve Liesman's voice is like nails on a chalk board

Trump, Musk, Visa, and the NYFed's largest primary dealers are working toward a tokenized-asset platform out of the new Texas stock exchange. Trump and Musk have been quietly working with some of the NYFed’s primary dealers and other fintech players to cement a new global, digital platform with DIGITAL WALLETS (which inherently require a DIGITAL ID) after the big banks and the SEC, etc just spent four years calling crypto a scam and killing off any undesired blockchain competition.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/499902179
^^^^ITT^^^, I outline how this asset-tokenization scheme is designed and its intended consolidation of Federal Reserve Uniparty power behind the scenes out of public view, as Musk and Trump claim the elimination of corruption and fraud, while eliminating any blockchain competition and simultaneously trying to establish a new need for their digital wallets and digital IDs.

As Trump and Musk superficially criticize the poor accounting, waste and fraud in the US government, they conveniently omit that JPM is the account validator for these fraudulent US government contracts/accounts and they ALSO never admit that the BANKRUPT, private 12 Federal Reserve franchises are the US government’s fiscal agents, cutting the 'untraceable' fraudulent checks.

Instead of identifying and rooting out the real financial entities facilitating this waste and fraud, Musk and Trump actively blame the ballooning debt and deficit spending on everything BUT Fed ‘accommodation’ and QE, while they simultaneously aid the 2008 banking failures in their current looting of our US Treasury via IORB and RRP, their further acquisition of tangible assets and their destruction of the value of our labor and national currency.

pic rel
Musk and his MOTHER privately met with Dimon and 200 of JPM's largest investors in Miami on Thurs Feb 6th, days before he began his 'audits' of the US Treasury and USAID revelations.

The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.
pic related: JPMC is JPM, the largest owner of the NYFed private franchise
The NYFed-ilk BlackRock and Citadel have just opened a new exchange in Texas, where there are no capital gains on metals.
So, they are likely looking to have some con that involves switching from one asset class token to another (from treasuries tokens to MBS tokens to metals tokens) via blockchain asset tokens, then leaving with their assets with no capital gains.
These asset tokens would also allow fractional ownership, so they can fleece even the poorest investor.

Central banks are now acquiring gold to back their own currencies, NOT to convert from gold to digital, but to give them a seat at the NYFed/BIS/IMF TOKENIZED ASSET table
the global pie is getting bigger for these classists, as they sell each of their own nation's future productivity via bond debt, making the domestic pie much smaller for each citizen.

>>514883084
>The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.

>>514883141
>>The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.

NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY

>>514864246 (OP)
Meh. The last two months have been pretty flat. Everyone's back to shaking the tree for free money. Loser who bet on AI are all spent.

>>514864246 (OP)
>can't afford food
>WHY NOT JUST TAKE $400K AND BUY STOCKS

>>514881328
AI (lumo) had this to say about that...
Citibank (through its parentCitigroup) is indeed a member bank of the Federal Reserve System. As a member, it holds stock in one of the twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks—in Citibank’s case, the Federal Reserve Bank of NewYork.

That stock is quite different from ordinary corporate equity:

It cannot be bought, sold, or traded on the open market.
Each member bank is required to own a set amount of stock based on its capital and surplus, and the dividend is fixed by law (currently 6% of the paid‑in capital).
Holding this stock does not confer control over monetary‑policy decisions; the Fed’s policy is set by the Board of Governors (a public agency) and the Federal Open Market Committee, whose members are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

>>514883646
and....
i thought you were going to give me an updated percentage kek

In the early days of AI I got a clear admission of the stakeholders, I wish I screenshoted it. It's pushing the narrative of public/private partnership harder now.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will back each $1 Federal Reserve Note in circulation with forty cents of gold.
They don't do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that bankers are to be held personally responsible if they fail.
They are not.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says if a Fed bank is insolvent, it is to become the property of the US.
It doesn’t.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that insolvent Fed banks shall forfeit their shares in their Regional Fed.
They don’t.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that it will use its profits to supplement the gold reserve and pay down any US debt.
It definitely doesn’t do this. LOL PIC RELATED
The Federal Reserve has 3 mandates —people now only talk about the dual mandates, which are stable prices and low unemployment—the third mandate is to keep long term interest rates constant.
They don't do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that the Fed will maintain parity of all forms of legal money issued by the US and strengthen the gold reserve.
They don’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will audit Fed banks at will.
They don’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says its by-laws are not to violate US law.
They do.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Fed banks cannot discount stocks or commercial paper.
They do.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says each Fed bank will maintain a surplus fund from its profits, up to 40% of its paid-in capital stock.
They don’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed Board will supervise Fed banks.
They don’t.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed banks will publish complete details weekly of their assets and liabilities, as well as the nature of their transactions.
They don’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed is required to write off worthless assets on its books.
It doesn’t do this.

and

>>514883889
and

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it is to have reserves in gold equal to 35% of its deposits.
It doesn’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says it will maintain a gold account at the Treasury.
It doesn’t do this.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Fed’s franchise will be forfeited if they violate law.
It is not.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says that Federal Reserve Notes will be redeemed for gold.
They’re not.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed bank owners will be held responsible for all regional Fed bank operating expenses, debts and contracts.
They aren’t.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says Fed member banks will not repurchase US treasuries that have maturities greater than six months from their date of purchase.
They do.
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says US Treasury yields are to be paid in tax-free gold.
They aren’t.

Gold is mentioned 53 times and on 11/25 pages. The word gold is littered throughout the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, basing one promise after another on GOLD. It was the ONLY reason the legislation passed.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says the Federal Reserve will not pay any income tax, its shareholders will receive a 6% dividend or the yield on a US 10-year treasury (whichever is lower) and also to have all their travel expenses paid.
They did manage to uphold these parts of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

Why do we have a Federal Reserve again?

A thread for the above:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/378535945/#q378535945

>>514864246 (OP)
I actually am doing pretty well.
Thanks drumpf.

>>514883926
>The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 says US Treasury yields are to be paid in tax-free gold.
HAHAHAHAHA
holy fuck imagine this
imagine the fucking treasury sending you tax free gold for your treasury yield
they must have been rolilng on the fucking floor at jekyll island when they outlined this

I admire you your passion and enthusiasm on the subject. Being a poor my understanding is rudimentary of economics, what I do understand is we are getting fucked.

>>514864246 (OP)
>Be 2020
>COVID lockdowns
>economy shut down
>Wall Street panics
>Be Jerome Powell, Chair of the Federal Reserve
>Print and inject $13 Trillion of magic money out of thin air into the economy overnight
>A glut of new dollars turns your savings and wages into toilet paper and spikes inflation hundreds of percent
>Be 2021
>inflation continues spiraling out of control
>dumbass Jerome Powell blows it off for the entire year claiming this inflation is "transitory"
>Be start of 2022
>inflation is still ripping higher
>"oh shit this inflation is actually not transitory"
>March 2022 begin little gay baby basis points interest hikes of .25% to start "taming inflation"
>hike interest rates to no higher than 5% by the end of 2022 despite inflation still being 10%+ (cooked numbers, really is 100%+)
>this interest rate hike was just high enough to slow down job growth/wage growth, but not enough to actually tackle inflation
>be 2023
>continue to hold these lame interest rates that solve nothing except continue to ruin the job market while not actually high enough to fix inflation
>stagflation (high inflation and high unemployment occurring side by side at the same time) start to creep in
>2024
>one small interest rate cut in September despite inflation numbers still being super high just for the lulz
>inflation now spikes even higher, but overall interest rates still high enough to be crushing job market
>2025
>both inflation and jobs market (stagflation) are continuing to worsen
>January 2025, low IQ retards on the internet learn what inflation and interest rates are only now for the first time
>said retards only think in terms of politics
>know absolutely nothing about finance, Monetary Policy, Jerome Powell or the Federal Reserve
>dumb fucks think Presidents control the Money Supply, interest rates and therefore inflation
>dumb fucks wonder why things continue to get worse
>interest rate cuts are now going to make inflation even worse

We are here.

>>514883646
>AI
>fed
lel

Ultimately you are talking to the void though, because you are too complex, you need to break it down and come up with a solution, or you're just feeding the archive.

>>514884181
>>Print and inject $13 Trillion
wut
was it that bad

>>514864246 (OP)
(((line go up)))

>>514884240
we both know that isn't true

>>514884240
>come up with a solution
multiple solutions ITT

>>514884301
Truth is subjective these days, you'll have to be more specific. I reiterate what I said, no one is going to read all that ultimately, as impressive as your autistic research is, it comes like an avalanche. I think you need to streamline your messaging is all.

>>514884447
That's my point, your message gets lost in the avalanche.

>>514884240
>too complex,
it is the lazy and stupid (rich and poor alike) that got us here in the first place

there are 50% of people, rich or poor, that are dumb-as-rocks followers and they will go along with ANY system, i see this as a benefit b/c for any plan, one doesn't have to 'convince' half the population, they are already in the bagi do not appeal to those people
we are in this position b/c of those people and the lazy skimmers that take advantage of their apathy

kek treasurer bessent on tv right now saying fed's credibility is shit
tv is now trying to blame the fed's shortcomings on trump
that is not going to happen either

>>514864246 (OP)
Today is a good day to sell.

"The real menace of our Republic is the Invisible Government, which like a
giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation . At the head of this octopus is a small group of powerful banking houses, generally referred to as the `International' bankers . This little coterie of powerful International bankers virtually runs our Government for their own selfish ends," Mr. John F. Hylan, on March 26, 1922, in Chicago .

>>514884589
>>514884508
>Truth is subjective these days,
fucking kek

>>514864246 (OP)

Stonks raise is an illusion....those mainly react your inflation and weak currency. You look in to your portfolio and feel coming rich but when you going to shop next time again you feel to be poor.

>>514865331
I'm not an obese, truck faggot, so I guess it's not my problem.

>>514884738
>kek treasurer bessent on tv right now saying fed's credibility is shit

weird that just popped up on it's own.

>>514864356
This. You losers need to get away from social media and talk to some real people in the real world.

>>514884885
maybe he's on this thread lol
along with the other 50 international intelligence agencies and high end coders

>>514864246 (OP)
Most Americans are too stupid and poor to invest, anon, therefore these numbers mean nothing to them.

President James Madison 1809-1817: "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."

Horace Greely 1811-1872: "While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to control the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system, we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery."

>>514885067
all sorts of quotes
<<--why we shouldn't have a fed in 17fucking91

>>514864246 (OP)
dios mio, la Djia

the fbi knows the fed is a fucking joke

>>514885239
American Bankers Association as printed in the Congressional Record of April 29, 1913 for 1891: "On Sept 1st,
1894, we will not renew our loans under any consideration. On Sept 1st we will demand our money. We will foreclose and become mortgagees in possession. We can take two-thirds of the farms west of the Mississippi and thousands of them east of the Mississippi as well, at our own price... Then the farmers will become tenants as in England..."

>>514885473
i could also post the forty or so energy companies JPM has bought during its little treasury raid at the NYfed
>what is IIF?

>>514864246 (OP)
>investments
>what percentage of Americans have investments
>disposable income

>>514866427
Wow. Public unions are absolutely worthless. No wonder it's only sheboons and retards working for the government now.

>>514866427
Also lol, I bet the fed board increase is pretty much in line with real inflation.

>>514885581
With that big brain of yours you must be generating some decent income.

>>514885704
only 17M people in the different labor unions
i'll just throw that in there
just watched a cspan special

>>514885774
i don't judge my success by money
i also do not compare myself to others to set my standards
i value things that cannot be bought and judge myself by deed, not posession
i live a very rich life with very little money

>>514885877
I knew you wouldn't quantify success in Fiat. captcha...hmmm guess they are watching. kek

>>514885774
why do people assume people that don't like market rigging are poor?
b/c anyone with any skills is already bought and paid for and can't complain
is more like it lol

>tech/greed/narcissism/corruption destroys humanity one person at a time
>people are surprised when the world turns into a superficial shithole loaded with people of low integrity, no skills and no standards

Watch as the Federal Reserve Uniparty owns, datamines, monetizes, surveils, and profits from every transaction on the globe:

today, most people are either:
corrupt (they are actively profiting)
compromised (someone is blackmailing them)
complicit (not outwardly doing anything illegal, but looking the other way so they may get theirs)
or
cowardly (they are too spineless to speak up)

We have all been living a horrible lie that only benefits those entities that issue the currency (24 international banks aka the NYFed's primary dealers) and those financial firms that they choose to fund.
This century-long, usurious scheme leads to a grotesque elitist class, inequality, misallocation of capital, and market rigging. This constant skimming by the privately-incorporated Federal Reserve Uniparty leaves the citizens downtrodden and constantly in need of new loans and taxes. Until the Fed has been abolished, we will ALL continue to devolve.

>just a slow, quiet descent into GLOBAL mediocrity, poverty and crime
>The NYFed, and its primary dealers — 24 private, nation-less, financial corporations, destroying the planet with national indebtedness, purposeful arbitrage and false scarcity

when money replaces actual success only the sleazy will be rich

>>514886179
the fbi agents and agent provocatuers should have a voice too, no?

>>514865468
>wages
Wages increasing has fallen on average from 5% a year increase in 2022 to 3% this year. We are in a depression that is affecting everyone who does not own a house or assets that appreciate such as stocks or boomer rocks. When the foundation aka young people is allowed to crumble so the will the rest of the house.

These MBS tranches (bought using QE) are held outright by the NYFed (NYFed acts as both note holder and MBS investor, multiple CUSIPs in each tranche, hundreds of properties in each CUSIP). If the mortgagor defaults (which 99% of them do/already have, which is why the NYFed bought them from their primary dealers in the first place), the deed then belongs to the Fed, who then either sits on the property (affecting housing values and skewing the housing market) or gives it to one of its triparty dealers to be rented (REITs) or to be picked over in foreclosure court. The NYFed now owns ~30% of all mortgaged homes, this was illegal before 2008.

The primary dealers that own the NYFed and the financial firms they choose to fund and that also make real estate purchases for the NYFed (i.e. BlackRock, Blackstone, Carlyle Group, American Homes 4 Rent) want to own all the properties, then the US government can become their customer through housing assistance; in this way, they form a closed loop of both supplier and customer, keeping the general public from owning any property, while profiting.

Under the guise of Covid, the NYFed and its ilk bought single family homes (MBS) and Commercial Mortgage-Backed Securities (CMBS), too, such as apartment buildings, trailer parks, nursing homes, offices, strip malls, warehouses, student housing, and RV parks and are keeping these real assets in their privately-incorporated LLCs (aka Special Purpose vehicles (SPVs)).

Update pic related to ~$2.2T

The purchase of these distressed properties by the NYFed causes false scarcity and false demand, which drive up housing (and rental) prices and prevents young and upcoming families from buying, fixing up and investing in these properties, as well as stopping new families from putting down roots in a community.

>>514886570
>If the mortgagor defaults (which 99% of them do/already have, which is why the NYFed bought them from their primary dealers in the first place), the deed then belongs to the Fed, who then either sits on the property (affecting housing values and skewing the housing market) or gives it to one of its triparty dealers to be rented (REITs) or to be picked over in foreclosure court. The NYFed now owns ~30% of all mortgaged homes, this was illegal before 2008.

You kind of remind me of an old buddy of mine who was a stock consultant, he saw through all the bullshit. Sadly he second guessed himself and went full retard in 08 and lost it all, after completely calling it and being right initially. He spiraled into depression and eventually died of an OD. Dude used to generate a million a year before that.He helped me to understand a lot of things about finance but I'm still tarded in these things ultimately.

>>514864246 (OP)
The neat thing about silver charts is if you read it upside down and backwards is shows the collapse of the dollar.

>>514885784
Having the leadership be completely useless and not able to negotiate even real inflation is a good reason they've been broken. Probably more of a symptom of the economy since 1972 than a cause, though. Certainly haven't done fuck all to fight for workers. All politics, and bad politics. I mean fuck, they support mass immigration.

>>514886860
Hey I did the same thing

>>514868672
>>514881487
>>514886388

tariffs have literally made everyone in america rich if youre still poor its on you.

>>514886570
Weird, so it's kind of like communism but run by corporate bankers ?

>>514886778
<<<----this was interesting

>>514887161
yes it's called state capitalism
james dimon and klaus schwab liek to call it stakeholder capitalism but it mere semantics
china and russia already practice it

>>514887300
>yes it's called state capitalism
a banana republic is state capitalism's most egeregious form

>A banana republic is a country with state capitalism, it is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands and labor, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.

>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class
>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class
>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class

>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies
>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies
>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies

>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury
>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury
>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury

>>514887300
>china and russia already practice state capitalism

The world has been hijacked by a cabal of meritless, elitist classists, financed by central banks, 'mergering and acquisitioning' their way to the top of each industry, only to dismantle and destroy each sector with greed and if not greed, incompetence, when any part of the system is placed under pressure. We are now witnessing the results of said cronyism, incompetence and monopolistic corporate avarice, especially with coronavirus response, central banking ponzi fraud/wealth extraction and the endgame policies of liberal hellhole cities.

The NYFed is destroying our country from the inside out. 'Quantitative Easing' is the rigging of the treasury and housing markets by the NYFed's repurchase/resale of US treasuries and MBSs. QE aids in the disproportionate misallocation of working capital mostly to the financial markets. At some point, this becomes sedition, as the NYFed is undermining the power, the roles and the ability of both the US Congress and the US Treasury to perform their stated missions, which is to work for and represent the US people by issuing currency and regulating its value.
It is way past time to dissolve the debt-based Federal Reserve central banking scheme.

>>514888260
and the lady in ^^^^this pic was the head of pic related
she is now police commissioner without ever having been a cop

The NYFed’s MO is shifting financial obligations to the people:
>NYFed bought Ukraine in 2014
>NYFed/IMF cartel funds Privat bank in Ukraine beginning in 2014
>NYFed associate/Oligarch Kolomoisky steals money from Privat bank
>Privat Bank then fails and gets nationalized
>now Ukrainian taxpayers are on the hook for broke bank
>Ukraine forced to beg for new loans from the NYFed and its wallet, the IMF, who now use Ukrainian farmland for even more collateral for their outrageous international bank loans

The more strife and infighting, the easier it is for the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel to loot the TARGET NATION.
Pic related:
’Large-scale, coordinated fraud' becomes 'capital problems' kek
Also, do note how they talk up their new surveillance-state CBDC and digital ID

Did the whole fucking world just forgot these are criminals? NO, IT'S MORE LIKELY THEIR CRIMINAL FRIENDS ARE NOW IN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED THE FUCKING CAREER CRIMINALS THAT THEY FUCKING ARE.
These people rely on CORRUPTION to thrive.

We all need to BE the standard that we want to see. No one is going to do it for us.

IMF loans billions to Ukraine in 2014
Ukraine promptly purchases gold with IMF money, which is then shipped to the NYFed to be held as collateral for future IMF and/or NYFed loans
NYFed basically purchased Ukraine in 2014
Ukraine’s Privat Bank is funded via the NYFed international banking cartel (aka primary dealers) and Apple Pay is installed (highest number of digital wallets held per capita in Europe)
Ukraine is the Mexico of Europe, with rampant organized crime and corruption, ripe for extortion and pillaging from the NYFed and its primary dealers
Privat Bank oligarch cofounder Kolomoisky leaves and takes ~$4.5B with him
US government bans said oligarch from the US
Oligarch’s subordinates then launder oligarch’s money back through NY and Miami charities
>It’s a LOOP

>>514888635
>Privat Bank oligarch cofounder Kolomoisky leaves and takes ~$4.5B with him
>US government bans said oligarch from the US
>Oligarch’s subordinates then launder oligarch’s money back through NY and Miami charities
>>It’s a LOOP

>>514864246 (OP)
kek, literally this meme

>>514864246 (OP)
Because the jewish casino known as the stock market doesn’t affect most people’s daily lives. It may good for their retirement accounts, but it doesn’t make groceries or housing any less expensive today.

The NYFed runs the fucking planet, make no mistake about it.
<<<——— the international banking cartel driving humanity into the ground
>private owners of the NYFed, aka shareholders aka primary dealers
>privately-incorporated company
>market makers for US treasuries
>used to be 46, now there are 24
>Five-time felon JPM is the largest
Behold, people! The failures of 2008 on fucking QE steroids.

>24 nation-less financial corporations destroying the planet with national indebtedness, purposeful arbitrage and false scarcity
<<<<----also, NYFed fulfilled its diversity requirement by adding a new Primary Dealer, ASL Capital Markets, owned by an Arab banker (a minority-owned business), been in business three years and now issuing our currency

>>514888954
Savage....where's occupy wall street when you need them.

>>514888954
The Bank Of International Settlements (BIS) is the head of all debt-based central banks (and founded by JPM) and was created in 1930 under the Versailles Treaty to get money from Germany for all the nasty shit they did in WWI.
The Federal Reserve and the Bank of England existed way before the BIS, the BIS morphed into their central clearing house and check-kiting hub for the first fractional-reserve, fiat, debt-based central banking schemes run in a few countries and then expanded from there to installing its central banks in over sixty countries.
Pic related
Note Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Venezuela are NOT on the list lol
Note China IS ON THE LIST
>China begged to be in the basket of currencies under the IMF and BIS in 2015 and the yuan was finally used in 2017
>only took the NYFed four years to get China bent over the table
>Damn
Note Ukraine is NOT on the list, as it was a 2014 freshly-installed regional NYFed bank branch, it was still on probation
Russia is looking to get off the list.

The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.
Note that the NYFed and the Fed Board of Governors were just added as separate entities on this list

>>514886860
Also the yuan.

>>514889132
An India anon’s thread on the NYFed’s primary dealers:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/419352960/
<<<<——this thread shows the SAME primary dealers in all of the debt-based central banks listed in the image in >>514889132, which reads just like the list of the NYFed’s primary dealers as seen in >>514888954

>>514889132
>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.
same primary dealers in all central banks

>>514889361
>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889408
>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889454
>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514864246 (OP)
The stock market was a mistake and should be abolished. Finance capitalism in general was a mistake and should be abolished.

one ring to rule them all

>>514889489
>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889529
>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889590
>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889623
>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889491
It's funny because there was once a country that banned making money unearned from labor to try and eliminate speculation.

>>514889663
>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

The Fed has coerced the US and the entire globe into a central bank-run state capitalist system. What you are witnessing is the corporate takeover of the USA by our own financial sector and its majority-owned stock in mega corporations. This is evidenced in not only recent corporate media surveillance and censorship, but also in the ongoing wealth transfer scheme of orchestrated booms and busts by the NYFed and its primary dealers (laundering their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets held by their private incorporation). The NYFed itself now holds 1/3 of all US mortgages. This was illegal before 2008.

There is not a country on Earth that practices free market capitalism. The debt-based Federal Reserve is a con, plain and simple. God only knows what true capitalism, real price discovery and sovereign nations trading with each other in a free market would be like. Imagine sovereign nations issuing their own currencies. God only knows where we would be today, had the Federal Reserve and the IRS (both created in 1913, btw) never been created. No orchestrated booms and busts, no crony State Capitalism, no corporate tax subsidies, no failing IPOs, no QE, no counterfeiting Central Banks, no metal market rigging, no derivatives, no endless war financing. Only states were supposed to impose an income tax. We are so far from free market capitalism, it is staggering. This is the Federal Reserve Uniparty

>>514889734
>>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889491
the concept of a stock market is fine, but it needs to be restricted to individual ownership only. ban all corporations, organizations, collectives, etc. from owning stock, including companies owning their own stock. same with housing. ban all corporate ownership of residential property and require people who own property to live in that property some number of months per year.

>>514889852
>>>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889864
this all sounds good

>>514889864
The concept is fucking retarded. IPO is the only time it's directly related to the company. After that, you're trading baseball cards with people. They should be required to pay you a portion of profits based on ownership % of stock, that way it's actually tied to the corp. Otherwise it's just a gambling market for kikes.

>>514889734
In Canada we literally have an unelected banker as our Prime minister.
> we are so screwed.

>>514889889
>>>>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>514889955
i know
it's bad
mr carney
your country unfortunately is really just a colony of england

>>514865468
>yea bro just sell your assets and chunks of your retirement funds to afford groceries.

Most people's wealth is tied to their locked in investments or mortgage, as for wages going up, I guess so? Not really.

>>514889964
>>>>>>>>>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

US taxpayers paid the IRS $562 Billion in interest alone in fiscal year 2021 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s debt-based currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt
$562 billion
($562,000 million)
Pic related

How it is:
>US government needs currency
>US Treasury prints up some bonds
>NY Federal Reserve creates Federal Reserve Notes out of thin air and its primary dealers then buy said bonds from US Government
>US government now has new currency created out of thin air by Fed banks
>Now, US taxpayers owe interest (and principal) on said US bonds, as well as paying a fee AND DIVIDENDS to the NYFed’s shareholders, the primary dealers (the big banks), this is the ‘Public Issues’ portion of the US Public Debt

How it should be:
>Congress makes annual budget
>Tax revenues are collected and any budget shortfall (deficit) is then new debt-free US Notes issued by the US Treasury itself, no bonds needed, no US Public Debt to issue our own currency
Are Americans ever going to realize this fraud?

>when a generation sells the futures of their country and their offspring for unsustainable and lavish wealth and their offspring are too stupid to realize it

p.s. US taxpayers paid $1.13 TRILLION IN INTEREST ALONE for FY 2024 to borrow our own currency from the private Federal Reserve. The interest to borrow the Fed's private currency has fucking ~doubled in the last three years. Let that sink in.

>>514864246 (OP)
Because it's a fucking meme. Just look at the gamestop stock fiasco to understand how fake and gay the entire system is.

>>514890169
Wait until US taxpayers figure out that the payroll taxes collected for social security, medicaid and unemployment are then used to purchase specially-issued, non-marketable US treasuries (aka Government Account Series, aka GAS) and THE US TAXPAYER IS THEN CHARGED INTEREST ON THESE GAS TREASURIES BOUGHT WITH THEIR PAYROLL TAXES.
This is called the Intragovernmental Debt and is included in the US Public Debt. The interest that we pay on Intragovernmental Debt is in the left hand column in pic related and the other interest paid to borrow the Federal Reserve’s currency in exchange for US Treasury debt (these are called Public Issues —-aka Debt Held by the Public aka Marketable debt) is in the right hand column of pic related and the creation of these Public Issues is detailed in the text in >>514890169
Pic related is total interest paid on US treasuries for FY 2022 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s private currency in the form of bond debt (Debt Held by the Public + Intragovernmental Debt = US Public Debt)
$718 BILLION in interest paid
$718,000 MILLION in interest paid
$718,000,000,000 in interest paid to issue their Federal Reserve Note out of thin air in the form of bond debt in FY 2022

>>514864246 (OP)
>Why do Americans keep complaining about the economy when the dollar is hitting all-time lows?
Great question nigger

>>514890178
>Just look at the gamestop stock fiasco
this
no one redpilled average americans like fucking ganestop kek

>>514890234
<<<——$882 Billion in interest paid in fiscal year 2023 (FY 2023) to have the NYFed's primary dealers issue our currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt ($666B interest on $34T of Public Issues plus $216B interest on $123T of Intragovernmental Debt)
$666B lol, can't even make this shit up

>>514864246 (OP)
>Stock market is the economy
Im tired of these bots. Caught up in the tangle of their ESL training

>>514865468
The more people that abandon MAGA the dumber the MAGA shills become kek. I don’t think I’ve seen a MIGA kike make a convincing post in months.

>>514890560
$1.1 T in interest paid last year for FY 2024 as seen in this image >>514867736
and pic rel is what we paid so far this fiscal year 2024

>>514868093
god that was a refreshing post

>>514890234
It's incredible anything functions at all with these parasites sucking their host dry.

>>514865331
Why would Obama reinforce the failures of 2008? Why would he bail the people out who caused it and give them even more power?
Why are you to dense to see whats going on? Or are you to easily manipulated by those whose media you consume?

>>514891021
pic rel is all of the government agencies that the Federal Reserve has its tendrils in
every fucking transaction, getting fees, data mining....

Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States, 1919, speaking before his death: "These International Bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of newspapers and the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of public office officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government."

>>514864246 (OP)
Stocks are "high" because your dollar is losing value fast. Every indicator points towards a recession. Right when your orange buffoon of a president pissed off the entire world economically with his tariffs causing treasury bond interest rates to increase.

<<<---then yellen made five time felon JPM the account validator for the Us govt
this was at peak hijacking of our government

and this too
also pic related druckenmiller was bessent's boss at soros

British Prime Minister David Lloyd George, in New Britain magazine of London magazine 20 June 1934 issue, cited a devastating assertion by former that: "Britain is the slave of an international financial bloc".

>>514891241
Definitely has nothing to do with Cede and co, who literally own all the shares in the US market, and the central banks who enable the crime.
Or the fact the majority of the stock market is now ETF's so no actual real stock is moving. Just.. IOU's.
A dane should know what happens next, something something tulip bubble.

>>514891344
so JPM approved the fraudulent USAID contractor and the fed paid it out in checkls

>>514891268
JPM is a system risk for US. Its eternal ceo was a prominent guest on Epstein island and held a close relationship with Epstein with very frequent contact / phine calls sometimes multiple times per week in hot periods. JPM and Jamie Dimon settled cases for 100s of millions in USD related to the Epstein case.

>>514891425
don't forget the dtcc

>>514891474
>jpmorgan is the fed
Do you really not know how your banking system works?

>>514891241
It has fuck all to do with tariffs.
See >>514889200

>>514891425
and don't forget the FDIC too
people peeing in elevators
this was quite a fucking congressional hearing

>>514891513
>its a big club and you're not in it

Abraham Lincoln, on these Bankers in Nov 1864: "The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the Bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe." Angered at the Bankers, in Acts of February 25 and March 4, 1862, Abraham Lincoln persuaded Congress to authorize the U.S. Treasury to issue $450 million in United States Currency to finance the Civil War. This currency was debt-free and interest-free full legal tender.

>inflation keeps going up
>better buy stock
>economy looks kind of shit
>that means low interest rates are around the corner
>that a big means corporate profiteering boom
>better buy stock
this is a decadent society right now and the rich are going to be the winners until the poor try to eat them

>>514864246 (OP)
90% of the stock is owned by 10% of people (half belongs to the top 1%).
The bottom 90% have crumbs in the stock market. The bottom 90% are losing wealth to inflation faster than they're gaining with equities.

>>514891527
i know exactly how it works
and JPM is the largest owner of the NYfed

On January 24, 1939, Robert H. Hemphill, credit Manager of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta stated: "If all the bank loans were paid no one would have a bank deposit and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous: if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture the
tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It (the banking problem) is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon."

>>514891657
>its literally your civic duty to fight it
>its in the constitution
>you had former military leaders call for it today aswell
>2 more weeks
>nothing will happen

>>514891588
<<<----THIS is the fucking club

What you are experiencing is the elderly generations hoping your greed is as great as theirs so the NYFed/Individual income tax/FICA Ponzi stays afloat long enough to prop up the NOW insolvent Federal Reserve.
This constant subtle guilt for not being a greedy scumbag run ragged on the rat wheel is subconscious.

Basically it is that twenty or so advanced nations work as a bloc and if a nation’s government won't sell their own country’s resources and labor out, they exclude you from trading with the Federal Reserve Uniparty bloc.

The global pie has gotten larger for the debt-based, nationless central bank classists, as the domestic pie grows smaller for each nation's citizens.

>>514864246 (OP)
The stock market has become detached from the rest of the economy and has become essentially a pyramid scheme propping up the entire US economy. Three of the six biggest companies in America by valuation don't actually make anything at all and if Alphabet, Meta, and Microsoft.

>>514891765
cycles of history take generations to play out, centuries
the turbo poor in society can still eat and watch netflix and live with family. We're probably in uncharted waters right now with technology

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.5728.pdf
The network of global corporate control
Stefania Vitali, James B. Glattfelder and Stefano Battiston
>The structure of the control network of transnational corporations affects global market competition and financial stability. So far, only small national samples were studied and there wasno appropriate methodology to assess control globally. We present the first investigation of the architecture of the international ownership network, along with the computation of the control held by each global player. We find that transnational corporations form a giant bow-tie structure and that a large portion of control flows to a small tightly-knit core of financial institutions.This core can be seen as an economic “super-entity” that raises new important issues both for researchers and policy makers.

> a large portion of control flows to a small tightly-knit core of financial institutions.This core can be seen as an economic “super-entity”
> a large portion of control flows to a small tightly-knit core of financial institutions.This core can be seen as an economic “super-entity”
Pic related
They all sit on each other's boards, own stock in each other's companies. Barclays is the most powerful. The paper is mathematical, out of the Swiss FIT.

Note China is only on this list ONCE and it is LAST.

This list has really only been cemented by the failures of 2008 enriching themselves with QE.

former Bank of England director Lord Stamp’s statement: “Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them with the power to create credit, and with a flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it all back again. Take this power away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine would disappear, and they ought to disappear, for then this World would be a happier and better World to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then continue to let Bankers control money and control credit.”

>>514891964
and their follow up paper

>>514891909
Technology has just hastened it, and if you're not careful you'll lose the advantage it gives.
Already seeing it in action.

“It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence . . The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here, so that they might emerge as rulers of us all.” Statement by Rep. Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, regarding the 1929 Wall Street crash.

>>514892020
>all banking is bad
no, there can be #3 below

There are FOUR ways currency is created in the US:
1 Congressionally-approved Public Issues treasuries for deficit spending via the issuance of marketable US treasuries sold by the NYFed’s primary dealers aka Debt Held by the Public (now ~$35 T)
2 Intragovernmental Debt GAS securities (aka ‘Unfunded Liabilities’) that are created/issued for currency to run public agencies (over $152 T now) and ARE PURCHASED WITH YOUR PAYROLL TAXES
3 The commercial tier 2 depository banking sector, it makes small loans in which only the interest remains in the banking system after the loan is paid back (the principal and repayments are destroyed when the loan is repaid) —this can remain when the Fed is dissolved
4 QE, this is fucking counterfeiting by the now-insolvent NYFed's primary dealers since 2008 via IOER (now called IORB) and we pay all sorts of interest on this, increasing every day with raising rates

“Most Americans and Australians, and for that matter, most people of the world have no real understandings of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress, and manipulates the credit of the United States, and for that matter, the credit of the entire world.” Senator Barry Goldwater.

MINDFUL that such a debt-based money system (where the capital is created out of thin air by the banks, at the stroke of a pen, and then loaned out by the banks, to the borrowers, whereby the borrowers are expected to pay back the capital, plus interest, which interest does not exist in the first place) is not only mathematically an inherently flawed, impossible system, but deliberately fraudulent." Statement by Brian McDermott, Administrator, Central Queensland Free State, 2004.

this analogy holds true for repos and reverse repos
>the NYFed is like a casino and represents the house
>the NYFEd’s primary dealers are the players who really work for the house, who never lose, but are used to attract other players to the table (retail public)
>the chips are treasuries and MBS, different values for different maturities
>and once in a while, a rogue player manages to get a seat at the table (the American public and retail investing) and wins (Gamestop, for example or BTC)

>>514892041
For like $100 a month in power, internet, subscriptions you get basically endless entertainment. That has to have some enormous pacifying affect. Think about if you had to go out and buy tickets or whatever every day instead of watching the computer. Public gatherings have always been a flash point for unrest, even dumb ass sports games can turn into riots for no reason.
On the other hand technology has automated a lot of work and so has reduced the demand for workers overall. Ideally this should mean people are paid more but as it's played out the money saved just flows to the top.
I have no idea what's going to happen but if the economy really shits itself and everyone is blindsided by these stock market highs then Occupy Wall Street might look like a nice picnic.

>>514892129
Always informative, thank you for your service.

We get it, you're rich. Riddle me this, boomers own 60% of houses, boomers are dying off starting today for the next twenty years. Who's going to buy their houses when even immigrants hate new immigrants? See you at the auction! I can't wait for my 60% discounts on real estate, and the stock market? Lol yea, I'm sure line goes up even with population collapse! Lol

>>514892471
>See you at the auction!
lol

>>514892449
ty you too, anon

>>514892402
>but if the economy really shits itself and everyone is blindsided by these stock market highs then Occupy Wall Street might look like a nice picnic.
I truly want to believe that. I watched in real time as Occupy failed.
Be angrier. Get angrier.

>>514892586
The game totally changed with the progressive stack killing OWS. The resulting identity politics has been a mainstay of basically every business and only ebbs slightly when the right wing gets into power.
A big chunk of society has brain rot so deep that having a common goal for a liveable society might just no be enough to have them fight for anything. For every /pol/ poster here that won't work because Jews exist there's fifty bluehairs that have similar ideas about systematic oppression but from the opposite angle.
>“I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.” Jay Gould 19th century railroad magnate

>>514892471
If they "own" their house, why do their papers say "tenant".

>>514892859
I'll give you this much, you're the most educated American i've spoken to about this thus far.
>A big chunk of society has brain rot so deep that having a common goal for a liveable society might just no be enough to have them fight for anything.
They've never known hardships.

>>514868093
Beautifully put. QFT. Inflation rewards losers, gamblers and people irresponsible with their money, and punishes those who do the right thing by working hard, contributing to society and saving. Have a bump.

>>514868400
Larry Fink's smelly, greasy, fat, hairy fingers typed this post. This piece of shit inflation-shilling paypig works most definitely for Blackrock. Sorry Stinky Finky, your corporate cartel of assets that you manage are going to have go back to offering quality products and services for competitive prices again. The era of slopflation where retards will just endlessly swipe credit cards for a premium on worthless trash is coming to an end.

>>514893088
I'm not dumb enough to think that civilizations vague upward trend never fucking crashes and shits itself. Boomerdom riches were a total historical anomaly and anyone with the slightest bit of foresight should be buckling down for ROUGH fucking times.
So I should be working my ass off but all this doomer shit is good motivation.

the real problems people have arent material, and in fact in a lot of ways caused by excess material wealth
they only know how to complain about material problems, as that's the only language they know
it's all symbolic

>>514893174
how you could ever think i was larry fink is hilarious

>>514893234
You might have it backwards, you're on the downtrend now, not the uptrend.
You can survive this, golden ages have happened before.