Thread 514917079

The right wing is no longer religious. The Christian Right is dying. Young whites are the least religious and the most right wing demographic in the country. Thoughts?

>>514917079 (OP)
there's actually a religious revival going on in Gen Z though

>>514917079 (OP)
Need a new ideological narrative to keep everything running smoothly. If people don't believe traditional religion, then a new narrative is needed to motivate and keep people in line

>>514917079 (OP)
>get rid of the pozzed christianity that is offered
>see an increase in christians
shrimple as

>>514917518
https://gildhelm.substack.com/p/its-no-great-awakening
Wrong

>>514918220
>substack
ngmi

>>514917991
I disagree. Russia isn't particularly religious even though Orthodoxy isn't "pozzed". Obviously the legacy of the Soviet union affects this, but it's been 30 years.

>>514918537
It's just a bunch of survey data. I don't want to manually comb through it all and post 10 graphs.

>>514917079 (OP)
>he didn't see all the deus vult memes
NGMI

>>514917079 (OP)
you lost homofürst

>>514918990
Can you at least link your fucking article rather than posting a shitty screenshot?

>>514917079 (OP)
Mandating or forbidding religion will just serve to alienate people from our movement.

>>514919339
I agree, but the only people advocating for this are the Christians.

>>514919472
Because it is the only religion that's even a blip on the radar among white demographics.

>>514919909
Not what I'm saying. The only people arguing for excluding others from the movement based on religion are the Christians.

>>514917079 (OP)
i'm not gonna disagree, but to call the religious right 'dead' would be a mistake.

>>514920043
The vanguard of the right wing has been pretty secular for a while desu. The alt-right was fairly secular and the modern dissident right isn't particularly religious.

>>514917079 (OP)
Good, we must completely free ourselves of the Jew politically and spiritually.

>>514920024
This board has seen a huge rise in anti-chrisian sentiment (and more broadly, anti-religion in general) in the past year or two. I don't know if its the majority opinion or not, but I certainly disagree that these people don't exist.

>>514920715
Even so, I don't think any of these people would advocate from excluding Christians from the movement. They just want the movement to be officially religiously neutral.

>>514917079 (OP)
>things to do whilst I dilate
post anti-christian threads on 4chins

>>514920342
>This board has seen a huge rise in anti-chrisian sentiment (and more broadly, anti-religion in general) in the past year or two
It's incredibly astroturfed, but it's always been here. It spiked when October 7th happened and JIDF astroturfing was turned up to 11. It's classic well-poisoning through and through.

>>514920715
>This board has seen a huge rise in anti-chrisian sentiment (and more broadly, anti-religion in general) in the past year or two
It's incredibly astroturfed, but it's always been here. It spiked when October 7th happened and JIDF astroturfing was turned up to 11. It's classic well-poisoning through and through.

>>514917079 (OP)
The religious right was co-opted by papists after Obergefell v. Hodges who redirected the entire movement towards combating abortion. Since Catholics are basically Vatican-First liberals who support open borders, gun control, etc. the religious right lost all momentum after Roe v. Wade was overturned.

Religion fluff for both sides of politics to use. Nobody in positions of power give a damn about god.

>>514917079 (OP)
>The right wing is no longer religious.
You do realise that the right wing of today is barely right wing.
If the right used to be more radical when religion is more prominent and now your idea is to abandon religion because the right is abandoning it because guess what? The right is also abandoning plenty of socially traditional values.

>>514922831
It's more racist than it has been in 50 years and that's what really matters

>>514923242
Prove that America today is more racist than 1975.

>>514917079 (OP)

Separation of Church and State is one of the most based and redpilled parts of the Bill of Rights and I will die on that hill.

>>514923413
It's not, but the right wing is publicly more racist than it was then. Well maybe 20-30 years ago would be more accurate, but still demonstrates the point.

>>514923767
Those are two different claims, you've moved the goal post.
>the right wing is publicly more racist than it was then.
That's a trivial claim because the internet has come out, the claim applies to every ideology ever. All ideologies have more public exposure.
I don't even think you've thought these things out and that's not an insult.

>>514924166
>you've moved the goal post.
Well I was being a little hyperbolic. Even so, the first claim might be true. The second is definitely true.
>That's a trivial claim because the internet has come out, the claim applies to every ideology ever
It's not. The mainstream conservative media, the mainstream conservative politicians, the elite conservative class is all more right wing than it was 25 years ago.

>>514917079 (OP)
Outside of a few spergs on /pol/ there is no support for white racial awareness within Christendom. Every single mainstream Christian church has embraced multi-racialism wholesale and rejects both white racial awareness and white racial separatism. Each and every church has the same vision of the future: growth via brownoid converts and brownoids born into the church and will happily trample over white self-interest in the name of growing the flock.

>>514924244
>The mainstream conservative media, the mainstream conservative politicians, the elite conservative class is all more right wing than it was 25 years ago.
Why has the GOP in the last 25 years made more and more concessions and lukewarm positions than ever before? Most don't object to gay marriage, they're arguments directed at transgenderism has been reduced to "just don't trans the kids."
More and more censorship of alt right figures, mainstream conservatives refuse to engage with alt right / paleo cons.
The woke right debate came up which is evidence of the elite conservatives like Jordan Peterson separating themself as much as possible from dissidents.
The list goes on, I really still don't think you're thinking anything of these things through, you're throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Why aren't you running a dialogue in your head before posting and think about counter evidence and arguments to your claims? Maybe you are but it doesn't look that way. Also keep in mind you pointed out religiosity among the right meaning they're going to secular ethics, it's why Charlie Kirk and what not has gay conservatives on their stages and why they have organisations full of women spokespersons that defend feminism but just criticise those "weird, crazy radical feminists."

>>514917518
It’s just a loud minority sadly.

>>514924603
Keep in mind people like Blair White are seen as the pinnacle of perfect mediocre conservatism that should be praised. I never see any pushback for feminism, lgbtq rights etc from the elite or mainstream conservatives.
You're posting on /pol/ remember and that has always remained as one of the crucial criticisms against the conservative world and that's what distinguishes us from the figure heads.

>>514924571
This, even ones that make hard stances on the lgbtq stuff will still cuck themselves out for muh precious negores

>>514917079 (OP)
They got pushed out of the money making left.
>secular
I'll put you on game: you don't want to get rid of them, just let everyone see them fail, get clapped, and then everyone can learn. (loving my enemies for Jesus)

>>514924603
>Why has the GOP in the last 25 years made more and more concessions and lukewarm positions than ever before?
Well 15 of that was just straight up leftward movement. But since Trump has come we've gotten a shift in the discussion towards immigration, we've gotten ire pointed towards legal immigration as well, we've gotten the overturning of Roe V. Wade, and an increased discussion of the reshoring of industry.
>More and more censorship of alt right figures
Because the left has controlled tech for decades.
>mainstream conservatives refuse to engage with alt right / paleo cons.
Which is less true now than 10 years ago. Look at what Tucker is saying. He is totally mainstream and he's constantly trying to signal to ethnonationalists.
>evidence of the elite conservatives like Jordan Peterson separating themself as much as possible from dissidents.
Juden Peterstein is a nobody at this point.
>it's why Charlie Kirk and what not has gay conservatives on their stages and why they have organisations full of women spokespersons that defend feminism but just criticise those "weird, crazy radical feminists."
Speaking of, look at Charlie Kirk's rhetoric now vs 5 years ago. He's so much further right now.

>>514917079 (OP)
Modern Christian religions in the west seem to be nothing more than methods of both extracting money from people and allowing people to massage their brains into thinking they're good and nice.
While amoral and generally degenerate behavior is a serious problem facing the modern west, much more pressing and threatening is miscegenation, I don't think encouraging people to go and drop $20 in the basket at the local church is going to stop that by any means, especially when modern Christianity (specifically Protestantism) has been watered down to shit like "love thy neighbor".
Infidels and pillagers were burned at the stake when Christianity conquered the western world, now it's an avenue for feeding hungry shitskins and guilting people about migrants or some faggot shit.

>>514917079 (OP)
Shalom rabbi

>>514917079 (OP)
seems like a wedge issue to isolate and destroy the current most prominent critics of the jewish power structure

>>514917079 (OP)
>The right wing is no longer religious. The Christian Right is dying.
You mean the CONSERVATIVE wing is no longer religious. The CONSERVATIVE right (i.e. center-left) is dying.

On the Right, we believe in:

* Creation, micro, not macro evolution.
* Manchildren should grow up. Suffering would help.
* Women have no rights. They only have privileges given by simps. No women should be allowed in the military, police, or any position of authority.
* Sodomy should be recriminalized.
* Sodomites should be publicly executed for attempting to seduce children.
* The 59% should catch up to the 41%.
* Usury, the prime source of Jewish power, is evil.
* Race mixing is genocide. It is an attempt to destroy both races. Miscegenation should also be recriminalized.

Please stop letting centerist ‘conservatives’ pretend to be us.
They are the ideological transvestites.

>>514924718
Blaire White is a nobody.

>>514917079 (OP)
>Young whites are the least religious and the most right wing demographic in the country. Thoughts?
Why are you retards incapable of thinking critically?
For this to be a relevant claim you must prove that most white atheist males are right wing.
Otherwise the entire premise of the thread is retarded, and you should kill yourself for being a faggot.

>>514918220
>>514924653
>not understanding trends
we're not in the middle of the revival, we're just getting started. within the next 2 decades you're going to see a major religious movement spring up around traditional Christianity. it will mostly be focused around Catholicism and Orthodoxy, but also include high church Protestantism, albeit to a lesser degree

>>514924983
Keep wishing grandpa

>>514924955
I'm not saying that most white atheist men are right wing or that young Christians aren't more likely to be right wing, only that the right wing is less religious than it used to be.

>>514925092
You don't offer proof for that. It's only implied speculation.

>>514925175
I mean that data is pretty hard to find because the survey data you'll find usually won't detail the data by three different dimensions like race, age, and religiosity. But given that young whites are right wing and irreligious, it's a pretty logical conclusion to make.

Best news in decades

Whites must move away from the cancer of religion which for whites is 99% jew worship of christianity, The "christian right" as you label it that is in near lockstep with the liberal social political agenda on ever single issue and considers israel and jewish interest to be their top priority. As has been said non-stop for decades but you low IQ niggers refuse to accept is the "christian right" exist as a gatekeeper for the right to siphon off right leaning whites to support liberal social political agenda and make israel/jewish interest a top priority

I told you so

>>514924773
I'd argue that having an ethno-religion is even more important than having an ethno-state. You can survive even foreign rule when your community is tightly bound together by religion but no force on earth will save you when your own moral and spiritual leaders are encouraging you to racemix.

generally its a pretty bad sign of things to come. every problem the human race faces stems from the elites nihilistic amoral pursuit secular desires. when the population at large becomes atheistic and by extension inherently nihilistic too, they will lose all sense of higher values as nihilism gives them permission to "let go" of things like morality and dignity, and plunges them head long into a downward spiral of indulgence in all of the worst sins imaginable

at this point the world truly becomes a playground for evil, and the synergy between the nihilistic pursuit of secular interests of the elite and the populace will breed unimaginable man-made horrors, especially now that we have the technology to get really creative with things

thing have only just begun, and the world is going to become a very ugly place

>>514924854
Trump and politicans took a stance against immigration because of the fetanyl and crime crisis, most of this isn't from a principled position like the sovreignty of the state against multi culturalism or domestic theory of pluralism undermining it.
But you're right Trump has done some good things.
>Because the left has controlled tech for decades.
The elites of techs are grifters, that's why they all had a recent meeting with Trump including zuckerberg, microsoft and all the other cunts, I can't remember all their names but I'm sure you know what I'm referencing if you somewhat follow the news.
I also think that censorship backfired on them, there refusal to engage in dissidents and censorship created alternative platforms and payment systems.
>he's constantly trying to signal to ethnonationalists.
I see the anti israel sentiment bro but I don't see this signal to ethnonationalists, I see that Matt Walsh guy some what doing that but that's about it.
>charlie kirk
I don't see this and even if I did I genuinely believe they're trying to build up nationalist sentiment among their fanbase for the sake of Israel. Individuals that are victim to the white guilt stuff are the most resentful to israel, it basically turned against the Jews and now they're trying to reverse it.
Until the mainstream conservative figures start criticising multiculturalism, feminism and LGBTQ rights, I won't see them as moving further right, it's always reactionary rather than a principled position and it's a complete catering to the sickness and frustrations of the conservative masses while they have for the longest time trying to gaslight their fanbase into believing this shit.

>>514925399
"Atheist", "irreligious", " secular", and "nihilistic" are all separate concepts. They're intertwined but not instrinsically linked.

>>514924983
>Revival within Catholicism
Oh boy, brown conservatism.

>>514925460
The left accuses the billionaires are on the side of the ring wing (ignoring george soros and all the NGO's that fund leftist movements, that's why most of their movements have never been grassroots) when really they're on both sides, playing both.
I'd just look at whenever the validity of Israels existence has become a popular question in the mainstream, the large donors of politicans running for electorate for president get backed up as soon as they stand up for Israel.

>>514924938
>Creation, micro, not macro evolution.

Uhhhh... okay.

>Manchildren should grow up. Suffering would help.

>Women have no rights. They only have privileges given by simps. No women should be allowed in the military, police, or any position of authority.

What race of women are we talking about?

>Sodomy should be recriminalized.
>Sodomites should be publicly executed for attempting to seduce children.
>The 59% should catch up to the 41%.

Holy BASED

>Usury, the prime source of Jewish power, is evil.

Banks gotta keep the lights on too bro. No one would pay back loans unless there was a consequence for not doing so (such as interest rates).

>Race mixing is genocide. It is an attempt to destroy both races. Miscegenation should also be recriminalized.

Uhhhhh... BASED Department?

>>514925460
>most of this isn't from a principled position
Doesn't mean it can't be useful to us.
>I see the anti israel sentiment bro but I don't see this signal to ethnonationalists
https://twitter.com/YungPutin1/status/1963413255969484845#m
Don't just read the tweet, it's dishonest. Watch the video, he's shilling for Russia but also implicitly advocating for ethno nationalism.
https://twitter.com/loganclarkhall/status/1963351254069121386#m
>even if I did I genuinely believe they're trying to build up nationalist sentiment among their fanbase for the sake of Israel
I disagree. I think they see where the culture is moving and they run to the right to stay relevant. Even Kirk has become more tolerant of Israel criticism, just not "antisemitism". But that cat's out of the bag.
>Until the mainstream conservative figures start criticising multiculturalism, feminism and LGBTQ rights
Have you not been paying attention?
>it's always reactionary rather than a principled position
Doesn't matter

>>514925489
wrong. if you unironically fall for cope philosophies about making your own hecking based meaning and values you are low IQ and doing just that, coping. Without God, all is permitted, period. the rule of the jungle reigns supreme and mankind becomes just another bunch of predators feeding on each other to satisfy the most base and primal instincts and reward systems. whatever cope you have about utilitarianism or whatever wont save you when someone decides that they can hurt you for their own benefit and get away with it, and nothing else ever even enters the equation in their mind beyond the simple risk-reward calculation, which its self probably wont even be very well thought out.

>>514925892
The biggest psyop of all time is convincing people that if you don't believe in Jesus you can't believe in God

>>514917079 (OP)
My God is the blood of my people and the future of my children. I will die a violent zealot in the worship of my deity. Sieg Heil!

Rightwing thought has a few premises that were never explicitly entertained to the modern public. So being fair to the concept is something that should be done.

1. If you let people get exposed to just any culture they'll catch addictions and confusions then misfunction societally and either fuck their lives up or the whole society sooner or later.

2. There are no justifications that what protects the society is logically correct or sound or free of some ill character. You do the things you've been taught because it is imperative to.

2. Violence is justified to prevent 1 from happening because it's mostly kids and people who don't know better or that scorn upstanding behavior and prudence possibly because they prey on it. People inherit these behaviors and dependencies from their ethnic kin and wouldn't change without abandoning their source culture at least.

3. Nothing about our industry or actions are wrong. The environment is a primeval place where most living things are truly better off dead anyway. Animals we care about we protect to the extent we wish to.

4. Inheritance, voluntarism, and preventing institutions from taking up all natural opportunities for labor and participation are all the social mechanisms needed to guarantee that people who make sense and can do what they should will mostly do what they should.

1/?

The left wing premises are as follows

1. Right wingers are too intolerant and violent and don't understand the inner work needed to even espouse the platitudes they have about maintaining a stable social culture. They especially cannot even integrate the experience of being a woman into any of it.

2. The environment should not ever be affected in any avoidable way and humanity is not more important than the planet. They never think about foresight though much here.

3. Everything in any culture is something you should learn to cope with or get treated on. Suppression and closing off to stuff just leaves people embittered and weak. Masculine right wing thinkers are completely overconfident they have any special ability to not be affected by other experiences and phenomena that are all natural by the way.

4. Everything needs to be big and institutional so we all follow all of the very necessary rules. Those fragile males will start wars any chance they get to stop being told that conservatism is ineffectual.

Anyone can tell that both have been correct on a very slippery scale for all of time.

>>514917079 (OP)
>The Christian Right is dying.
Good riddance. It's death is 2000 years overdue.

CHRIST IS KING

REPENT

>>514926232
>Christ is kang!!!
Prove it.

>>514925853
I watched the video like he says he rejects basing a nations identity of the people on DNA but admires the Russians for being about to essentially keep civil stress non existent among the christians and muslims and even lebanon thought this way until muslims got very close to being a majority and then a war broke out for 19 years and now it's a muslim nation.
There's also no evidence Putin is a ethno nationalist but rather the contrary. And again if the left never did the whole "watch your white privilege when speaking" thing the conservatives would of never brought up the anti white sentiment that exists because again they simply don't care they're just giving push back to anti race sentiment.
>Have you not been paying attention?
I have not seen anything what so ever about the issues I named, they will bring up black crime and bad culture but never criticise asian culture or anything because again it's just the disdain for the crime crisis not some fundamental weakness in a political state by having multi culturalism.
that's what people don't understand ^

>>514917079 (OP)
The Christian right is converting to Russian Orthodox. We understand the Satanic Jew.

>>514917079 (OP)
I prefer to be called "woke right". It reminds me of "Deutschland Erawache". Which is based.

Christian versus non Christian right only mostly varies on whether you go with 2 or 2

Almost all other cultures don't care though so I called both 2. Almost all people believe the first then resort to the second when it gets bad. Most of the youth think things are pretty bad. But they wouldn't necessarily say that right wing stuff or violence are the answers we need. The answers we need are complicated, and I wouldn't trust anyone that can't even see past their front door to the other side of the same street to be able to manage the HOA.

>>514925892
False, europeans had superior civilizations before they were infected by christianity. And no, everything was not permitted in those civilizations.

>>514917079 (OP)
They’re going to force you to worship the Jew whether you like it or not. They’ll force this demographic to change back.

>>514917079 (OP)
More like Christianity is recovering its personal mystical nature, that is, a direct relation between the I and what is Transcendent.
>But God creates Evil, untold misery and cruelty
Correct, Evil exists, God creates Evil, there is no escaping this fact, but we do Right so we can see those we love thrive, an unending war across time, space and mind, not because we expect God's miracles through servile flattery, instead we use whatever He gave us to improve upon Creation, that is the greatness of the Son of Man.

>>514926529
>God creates Evil
midwit protestant, spengler was a catholic and catholics don't believe god created evil.
the second you say god created evil than your whole worldview falls.

>>514923466
Frankly.

>>514917079 (OP)
Does this mean pissed off white people are about to be unshackled by Noahide law and Christian morality? Interesting times ahead if that is the case.

>>514926365
>he says he rejects basing a nations identity of the people on DNA
Read between the lines anon. If you watch Tucker you'll notice it's a thing he does. He loves to pretend he's this innocent libtard but then points out how the liberal idea is retarded. I find the shtick a bit disingenuous and grating but you need to read the subtext.
>There's also no evidence Putin is a ethno nationalist but rather the contrary
Russia is a multiethnic empire and has been for centuries. And it's not like America where the other groups are a permanent underclass, they're indigenous people to regions of Russia with claim over their land.
>if the left never did the whole "watch your white privilege when speaking" thing the conservatives would of never brought up the anti white sentiment that exists
This betrays a misunderstanding of the left. The left is constitutionally unable to reject wokeness because it's required to keep their worldview. And it doesn't matter if the pundits are genuine or not. We're using them, not the other way around.
>they will bring up black crime and bad culture but never criticise asian culture or anything
Asian culture is fine, it's not American culture but I have no reason to hate it. Even so Charlie Kirk is now saying that America wouldn't be America if it was majority nonwhite, which is an improvement. He's still a shill, but the fact that his rhetoric has been radicalizing means we're winning.

>>514925963
whatever "god" you claim to worship will amount to nothing but a stand-in symbolic personification of these desires anyway


anyway, just look around your own thread. even just in the time since i made my first post, your topic of "no religion", has already had multiple people automatically defaulting to discussing their desires for violence and atrocities.

you didn't mention anything about violence in the OP of course, they just saw ":no religion" and immediately their mind went straight to their desire to kill people, as if you gave them permission to indulge in these desires the moment you indicated that God was not watching.


there is your answer to your inquiries on the implications of "people are no longer religious" pretty much precisely as i pointed out.

people will simply let go of any higher virtues and become servants of their base desires, or servants of "gods" which represent those desires, and they will become beasts and fall upon each other like demons.

>>514926877
You're right we shouldn't deport the hordes of brown foreigners and should instead let our genetic stock be degraded into mixed brown slop.

>>514926800
>This betrays a misunderstanding of the left. The left is constitutionally unable to reject wokeness because it's required to keep their worldview. And it doesn't matter if the pundits are genuine or not. We're using them, not the other way around.
i literally didn't say this is leftism im just putting out what they do, you had some slip there where u felt the need to tell me what leftism is as if i dont know
>Charlie Kirk is now saying that America wouldn't be America if it was majority nonwhite
can i see this pls

>>514926529
>More like Christianity is recovering its personal mystical nature, that is, a direct relation between the I and what is Transcendent.
The brownoid masses of new Christians prefer a superstitious sort of folk Christianity with vastly dumbed down theology. This is the the emerging dominant form of Christianity, not your array of individual sperg headcannons.

>>514917079 (OP)
SIEG HEIL ODIN

>>514920715
The Christian Identity shilling before that wasn't organic either and got a start on infinity iirc. /pol/ is the least organic board on all of 4chan and it doesn't matter if you support or don't support any one topic or subject matter. It's all forced as shit. /pol/ surpassed /b/ when it comes to this faggotry years ago.
Without a word of lie I know normalfags who are more based than faggots here these days regardless of their stance on religion. Present day 4chan is almost worse than fucking boomer fb + tv.

>>514927126
>you had some slip there where u felt the need to tell me what leftism is as if i dont know
My point is that the hypothetical you present is impossible. The left cannot not be woke, it's not possible for them to do.
>can I see this

>>514917079 (OP)
The core essence of the right is Jew worship. Even those who have abandoned the ancient Jew, still worship the modern Jew. If you don't love Jews with all your heart you are not right.

Religion is the original globohomo

>>514926968
If you're dating a non white you probably couldn't find a white that wanted you. That you would want too. And among white people, if you're gonna be that picky, there's a huge spread of different amounts of types of whatever qualities and characters or abilities. People who think like you always get called out on the eugenics it would lead to immediately even if you're not thinking about that right now. Which I know you're not. But everyone else basically assumes people will take that next step.

>>514927378
Thousands of years of monogamous European endogamy conquered the world and put a man on the moon and you think it's dysgenic? If what you propose is so eugenic then why aren't Latin American whites far superior to American whites? Oh wait, there are barely any whites in Latin America and it's a shithole compared to NA? Go figure.

>>514927214
that doesn't affirm ethno nationalism in the slightest, send me this tweet he's referencing that is a larger explanation of all of this.
>The left cannot not be woke, it's not possible for them to do.
i never objected to this or anything, idk why u brought this up

>>514926968
I never said that but ok

There are good economic reasons to deport them though. So more or less it's been green lit. For now. And after people work to get what they need in their countries they won't even remember why they tried to come here. None of that has anything to do with their stock or some s

>>514927483
That isn't what I said you butt muncher. Re read and I might respond.

>>514927525
>that doesn't affirm ethno nationalism in the slightest
How?
>send me the tweet
It's him calling to end Indian immigration lol.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1962662508684324966#m
>I never objected to this.
You said "if the left never did this 'white privilege' thing", but my point is that could never realistically happen. They were always going to sperg out on white people.

>>514927537
This guy.

>>514917079 (OP)
Good. It's time to move on beyond religious superstition and embrace philosophy and spirituality instead.

>>514917518
Nah I saw a video about this. They're believing in God and becoming spiritual, they are using meditation apps, and they're investigating all religions. They are not however attending churches.

>>514927720
Doesn't mean racial superstition immediately takes front and center. We can talk around it, but not directly about it.

>>514927537
What "atrocities and violence" were people advocating for then?

>>514927685
>America does not need more visas for people from India. Perhaps no form of legal immigration has so displaced American workers as those from India. Enough already. We’re full. Let’s finally put our own people first.
This isn't ethno-nationalism, charlie kirk has already said in 2019 it's un-american. If you're telling if you asked Kirk who he thinks "our own people" are and you genuinely think he'd say white people then you're delusional.
please don't tell me u actually think kirk believes this

>>514927663
If you were saying white nationalism is eugenic as a response to my obvious sarcasm then it's you that's illiterate.

>>514927877
>charlie kirk has already said in 2019
lmao
>please don't tell me u actually think kirk believes this
Kirk doesn't believe fucking anything lmao.

>>514927882
I don't think we're even having the same conversation.

>>514924773
I've yet to find a single church in Ontario, Canada that doesn't cuck to the niggers either sending the church money direct to random shitholes in Africa or Papua New Guinea or worse importing them right here. 99% of them have the black power tranny faggot rainbow flag and embrace that shit, and 100% of them embrace BBCs being bred, and I'm sick of it. I've challenged /pol/ many times to find me a church that is an exception and I've visited hundreds now and never found one.

>>514927929
What the hell were you trying to say then?

>>514927910
>Kirk doesn't believe fucking anything lmao.
so you agree with me then that mainstream conservative politicans are just grifting to gather a larger crowd from people with a bunch of steam and then bring them more back to the centre like they've always done?
kirk is known for appealing to a christian audience heavily and then ended up gaslighting his audience by bringing queers on his Q&A shows.

>>514917079 (OP)
Are you retarded? Religious young people are the ones who make uo that right wing lmfao. The non-religious young people are virtually all shitlibs.

>>514917079 (OP)
If you think about it, all those beaners being deported are Catholics from conservative countries. They will build churches themselves for $10/hr.

What Trump should do is offer them a temporary status and work permits so long as they work in specific low skilled industries like landscaping and picking strawberries and washing dishes. And if they stop working or commit a crime, they get deported. Build housing projects for them too, call it Beanerville in every city. Unlike today's housing projects at least these would have employed people.

>>514925399
Just spread Bernardo Kastrup books and parapsychology books around they have the benefit of being actually true and being able to actually explain things. Oh and you can spread books on ethics too like Ayn Rand The Virtue of Selfishness and any stoic books and various greek philosopher books on ethics. Christians can't even tell me what is a sin or not, but philosophers have no problem to clearly define what is a virtue and what is a vice.

>>514924983
Catholicism is the second most despised religion, right behind judaism or even equal to it, third is scientology and fourth is mormonism. Pretty sure the fifth is a tie between muslims and prots but only because prots are mostly liberal hypocrites.

>>514928058
>mainstream conservative politicans are just grifting to gather a larger crowd from people with a bunch of steam
Yes
>and then bring them more back to the centre like they've always done?
No.

The scientific worldview is the harshest that humans have created. No religion has demanded as much of anyone. Those who pass through that harshness will be reborn not as kings but as warriors.

>>514927779
What?

>>514924854
No, the censorship isn’t coming from tech, it’s coming on direct orders of the US government. The State Department or DOJ IDR got caught red handed threatening Twitter into banning alt-right figures.

>>514917079 (OP)
They only equated " right wing " or
" conservative " people with being religious, because making fun of Christianity also went hand in hand with discrediting their opposition. Their competition.
In fact, being " conservative " and " right wing ", is actually just normal.
It isn't extreme. Those opinions are really very average and wide spread among healthy, well functioning civilizations.
It is normal and natural to hold beliefs that they've socialized you into calling
" conservative " and " right wing ".
They use Christian religion as a slur, even against those who are not, to make normal, everyday people, seem kooky and repellant.

>>514927957
Honestly I don't know of any person that just straight up disagrees that sexuality doesn't just progress straight into that degeneration. Meaning that right wingers taking the pagan route of sexual liberality leaves them mostly off target of the whole point of it. There'd have to be other important reasons for people to continue to see it as inappropriate personally. And also probably for many addicts there's something called norepinephrine you would need to block.

Uh. So yeah. All of that's pretty jumbled. People who think of Christianity also get that forgiveness was the only reason anyone continued to talk about Jesus after he died. Ending cycles of hatred. As far as this, it supposedly affects gender and races and a nother cycle of hatred. So forgiveness in this context basically does mean defeatism about it.

Which isn't smart. I think if anything people are understanding the consequences of being degenerate are degenerations. They can see it coming and are pivoting. So if that means being less "religious" about this too then that's what that means.

>>514919339
What is your movement about?

>>514927973
It's called a bell curve. I don't think you've heard of it before.

>>514928267
Probably a combination of the two. The public and private sectors work together.

>>514928266
Nazi flag.

>>514928422
What? You're just throwing a bunch of non sequiturs at me. I've taken probability theory dude, I know what a bell curve is.

>>514926649
>Spengler was a catholic
Did you even read his works? He is no catholic, but he praises catholicism and religion because it's the best indicator a culture is still at the peak of its strength.
>>514927138
>The masses
Yes, they will always have the simplified interpretation of the Bible, but what I am talking about is not for them but for the elites that always dominate them, with science emptied of meaning all there is left is a return to spirituality, for we have found, again, rationalism always lead to the same conclusion, that reality has no meaning, and intelligence cannot justify existence, but deep down we all know this, and the best of us never forget the Source of all meaning, hence why after youth rebellion most men come back to mysticism and spirituality, it's just in this age of the world rationalism has burned itself out at a rate previously never seen before.

>>514917079 (OP)
You’re basically wrong. Atheism is dying out. Good riddance to this boomer belief system

>>514928374
I was raised with no religion and yet never masturbated at all until I was in my mid 20s and some woman got me to do it.

I don't degenerate into weirder perversions at all.

Meanwhile religious freaks I know are full on all about fucking everything with a hole. The most religious person in my friend group is secretly gay and a junkie and done a lot of sexually depraved things and isn't getting better.

>rest of your post

wtf am I even reading? Did you use a translator to write all that? None of it makes sense.

>>514928442
Yeah because you guys were like a Molotov about to set off a bomb or a bomb about to blow up all the roads for awhile. Besides there's nothing illegal about banning them anyway.

>>514928453
Muttburger flag.

>>514928588
Fuck off faggot.

>>514917079 (OP)
>Thoughts?
Sounds like another French revolution is brewing except this time its the entire west and not just France and America

>>514928511
>for we have found, again, rationalism always lead to the same conclusion, that reality has no meaning, and intelligence cannot justify existence, but deep down we all know this, and the best of us never forget the Source of all meaning, hence why after youth rebellion most men come back to mysticism and spirituality, it's just in this age of the world rationalism has burned itself out at a rate previously never seen before.

Total bullshit. Rationality led me to conclude we have an eternal self that survives death, that consciousness is fundamental, and that everything is reducible to nous/logos/mind.

>>514928474
The Hispanic average will overlap with that section of the white area. You don't lose anything just because they're here. Unless there are other considerations. Which there are. Which is why they're moving them back out. But all this stuff about it being their dirty blood or whatever is gay.

>>514928672
You're not fucking making sense dude. Make a coherent point instead of just saying random things and expecting me to piece it together.

>>514928654
based socialist democracy

>>514928562
You sure you're male? I found it impossible to go a day cooped up in a room since age 10 not to do that.

Everyone is chemically different but only 1% of males don't masterbate as minors.

And I know you and your friend are both black gay Jewish trolls. But this is pretty fun anyway.

>>514923466
>Separation of Church and State
>part of the Bill of Rights

>>514928607
>>514928618
>>514928729
This place is about 2 decades too old for anyone to actually fall for this low level prank.

>>514929107
Once upon a time

>>514917079 (OP)
Shalom, rabbi.

>>514929292
>NOT WORSHIPING A JEW IS JEWISH

>>514929292
They just want my 5d chess set.

>>514917079 (OP)
The observation presented in this post is a perfect example of focusing on a superficial symptom while completely ignoring the underlying disease. The question of whether the "right wing" is religious or secular is profoundly irrelevant. It is a debate over the interior decoration of a prison cell. Both the old "Christian Right" and the new "secular right" are merely psychological adaptations to the pressures of the techno-industrial system, and neither constitutes a meaningful form of opposition.

1. Politics as a Surrogate Activity. The entire framework of "left wing" versus "right wing" is a mechanism for social control. The system needs to provide outlets for the frustration and powerlessness it generates in modern man. Political tribalism serves this purpose admirably. It gives individuals a sense of purpose, a group to belong to, and an enemy to hate. By engaging in these conflicts, they sublimate their revolutionary potential into a harmless surrogate activity. They feel as if they are fighting for something important, when in fact they are merely strengthening the system by participating in its pre-approved forms of dissent. The shift from a religious to a secular ideological flavor changes nothing about this fundamental dynamic.

2. The New Secular Right is Not a Rebellion. This new, supposedly non-religious right wing is as thoroughly domesticated as the one it seeks to replace. It is a phenomenon born of and sustained by the very technology it should be opposing. Its ideology is formulated and spread through the internet, its members are atomized individuals connected only through screens, and its goals—even when framed in radical terms—do not include the dismantling of the technological infrastructure that ensures their subjugation. They may have exchanged the Bible for pagan mythology or racialist theory, but they have not exchanged their dependence on the system for true autonomy. Their rebellion is a performance, a digital aesthetic.

>>514929446
3. The System’s Erosion of Traditional Values. The decline of Christianity is not a victory for some new revolutionary force; it is a victory for the system itself. The techno-industrial system cannot tolerate any source of values or loyalty that competes with its own logic of efficiency and power. Traditional religion, with its emphasis on community, transcendent morality, and non-material goals, was an obstacle. The system has therefore worked relentlessly to erode it, replacing it with the values of consumerism, careerism, and state-worship. The young men in question are not freely choosing secularism; they are the products of a society that has systematically dismantled the psychological and social structures that made religious belief viable. The new secular ideologies they embrace are just as artificial and system-serving as the watered-down, "progressive" Christianity they rightly despise.

4. Misdiagnosing the Source of Misery. The underlying cause of the anger and alienation felt by these young men is the deprivation of the power process. They live in a world that offers them no real challenges, no meaningful work, and no control over the essential conditions of their own lives. They correctly sense that they have been dispossessed, but they incorrectly identify the culprit. They blame "leftists," immigrants, or cultural changes. They fail to see that these are all symptoms or consequences of the true enemy: a global technological system that is relentlessly destroying human autonomy, dignity, and contact with the natural world.

>>514929504
In conclusion, the shift described is trivial. It represents nothing more than the system shuffling its ideological deck. Any movement, whether it calls itself "right wing," "Christian," or "secular," is worse than useless if it does not have as its one, central, non-negotiable goal the complete and permanent destruction of the techno-industrial system. Until that is understood, all such political maneuvering is merely noise, a distraction from the only struggle that matters.

>>514929446
>>514929504
>>514929546
Thank you Uncle Ted, we shall commence the nuclear annihilation of the world.

>>51492964
Polly wanna cracker?

Hope you like cows or something though.
Meaningful.

>>514917079 (OP)
>religious
>ideologically right-wing
>increasing in birth rates
Muslims sound like the answer to your problem

Wait if I just post random numbers, shouldn't it link to a really old post?

>>11122

Why it no work?
Gay

>>514930012
>>514930041

It's time. Christcucks are a detriment to the White race. All they do is countersignal anything that could help us. They're also increasingly deliusional.
I saw some "Catholic Nationalist" trying to claim "Catholics invented science"

>>514917518
Yeah, they have dogshit literacy rates, what do you expect? Invest in crystal shops.

>>514930074
>>514939999
And now we wait.

Too high. That would take 2 hours.

I give up.

>>514919090
It's literally just his chatgpt prompt

>>514925353
trvke

>>514930367
I don't understand following people. They just send each other into armies. I would sooner go fight with wolves in the ardens for no fucking reason than to battle a human with anything other than convincing them to kill their self.

Guys really the problem is that if you say you don't have a problem with white people, someone brings up that white people something Nazism, and most people really want to have a problem with Nazism, but they're now extremely confused. To solve this confusion, they just say no to what you're asking for. Then someone does it for reasons that make sense anyway in this case, but they still hate you guys.

>>514924983
>import mexicans (catholic)
>import niggers

>its a revival guys

>>514917079 (OP)
Don't make it cringe

>>514928671
>Total bullshit. Rationality led me to conclude we have an eternal self that survives death, that consciousness is fundamental, and that everything is reducible to nous/logos/mind.
Wait until you get older.

If you are such a right-wing nationalist then why do you follow a foreign globalist religion instead of an ethnic one?

>>514931937
>foreign globalist religion
?

>>514931937
The goal of Christianity is to convert the jews. But the church doesn't give a fuck about that.

>>514928511
The only reasons why /pol/ became religious for a time after 2016 is because of the promise of a trad wife at churches (culturally guaranteed pussy), and we were fooled that Christianity some movement against the jews instead of the zionist dick riders they ended up being.
These reasons reflect ultimately reflect a desire for materal reward (pussy), not actual belief in a deity and mythos.

>>514932122
I can't find a single reason why anyone would want to be a christian. How are you going to convert them without having a reason to do so?

>>514932398
>without having a reason to do so?
It's what Jesus wanted. Sounds like you know nothing of Christianity.

>>514926395
The Minoans had a superior civilization before they were infected by the Danaans/Achaeans. Minoans had indoor plumbing; Greekjeets did not have that technology. When the Greekjeets burned down the Palace of Knossos (with its more than 1,500 rooms), this is what you call the "Beginning of Western Civilization". Greekjeets proceeded to create their own writing system by copying the Phoenicians.