Thread 514928522

Why do men blame women no matter whom they choose as a partner? If women look out for a man being 6 foot tall and having a six figure income, men complain that their standards are "unrealistic" and "unfair".

When a woman then has kids with some man, other men will complain that she choose the wrong man, whose genetics made their kids short, dumb and too "dark" (yeah, that's still a thing in colorist circles).

It's really a catch 22 for a woman choosing a partner, you incels will complain no matter what.

How could women ever be to blame for anything?

>>514928522 (OP)
she is unironically right, this is one of the contradictions
in "red pill" ideology if you will
>women need to pick the best men, dont breed with trash its your fault our genetics suck
>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT YOU ARE BEING TOO PICKY WE ARE GOING EXTINCT
it actually made me chuckle when i realized this in private

>>514928522 (OP)
People laugh at women who get impregnated by drug-addicted violent criminal niggers and think they'll just ""fix"""" him.

>>514928655
Because women are well known for picking out the best qualities of a partner. Especially when they're not lusting over serial killers.

>>514928522 (OP)
What does the money have to do with genes? Literally nothing. If you still believe making money = smart you're not paying attention to the world that you're living in. As for height, as a tallfag myself I get chased by womanlets. Tall girls don't even talk to me. But the reality is, if I breed with a womanlet, there go MY genes. Why are you viewing this game through the eyes of a woman? Aren't you a man? Don't your interests come first?

>>514928655
She's not, you're just a nigger that's all.

Arranged marriages were a thing.

>>514928522 (OP)
Wow! Another le epic reddit thread! This wins the internet!

>>514928522 (OP)
Explain why women fuck niggers or shitskin that later on kill them? Why did they pick that nigger?

>>514928522 (OP)
She's equating height with ability to provide. I know it's what she actually thinks but it's funny to see her admit it.

>>514928522 (OP)
woman are heartless anyway, easy targets to take the blame, just like jews when things go south, blame the jews and you will never go wrong.

>>514928655
Which is why each and every real civilization creates monogamy.
That way the "best" (even if for retarded reasons) would be taken off the market and women's hypergamy was limited to what was left. The red pill point of view works fine as long as you still have marriage. Women's liberation wouldn't matter nearly as much either because Chad would get with Stacy (and have a few flings/affair partners, but no where near what's going on now).

>>514928817
>Especially when they're not lusting over serial killers.
So women now also aren't allowed to go for people who got in contact with the law? So they cannot go for six foot, six figure guys, but they cannot go for a man who killed a few people either?
>>514928965
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger.

>>514928655
They aren't picking the best. The extreme height standards are also just a weird abstraction for social status. Tell me why a woman who is 5'2" needs a man who is 6'3" in order to "feel feminine" (or whatever her cope is this week). She will feel perfectly small next to a man who is 5'9" or even less.

Like makeup, the height preferences are just another arms race among women to make each other jealous. Nu-/pol/ is infested with thedonald boomers who never took the evopsych redpill on women. Almost everything women do outwardly is performative and dishonest.

>>514929049
>So women now also aren't allowed to go for people who got in contact with the law? So they cannot go for six foot, six figure guys, but they cannot go for a man who killed a few people either?
Wtf are you talking about kraut? This is your brain on stupid nigger.

>>514929042
Stop absolving women of any agency/responsibility. They get tricked by the jews into destroying society. They are still at fault, even if the jew is even more at fault. Nothing changes until this simp mentality to always coddle women goes away.

>>514928522 (OP)
Color inside the lines retard

>>514928655
women picking from a small pool of men doesnt mean they have good selection criteria

>>514928655
Tell me more about your private chuckles

>>514929049
They can, evidently, go for whoever they want. But if they get into bed with a serial killer, don't come crying to me when they wake up dead. That is the destiny they pursued. Why shouldn't we laugh at them for it?

>>514929052
>The extreme height standards are also just a weird abstraction for social status
>Like makeup, the height preferences are just another arms race among women to make each other jealous.

Yeah, you got it. I think the reason why women nowadays put such an extreme importance on height is social media. They communicate among each other about their partner to brag, and saying "he's 6'3"" is so much more easy to communicate and to compare than basically any other details about the person.
Instagram and Tinder then lead women down the rabbit hole of having arbitrarily high height standards, just so they can get a man that is taller than the guys of their girlfriends.
Totally deranged.

>>514928522 (OP)
Mother's education and intelligence is one of the main factors determining the child's intellectual success.

So if the kid is dumb it is quite literally the mother's fault.

>>514929267
but ackshually.... civilization is dysgenic
cf. your current enslavement
and the artificial selection occurring

>>514929094
>This is your brain on stupid nigger.
I guarantee you watch nigger felon league on Sundays. No room to talk.

>>514928522 (OP)
The solution is simple Just accept a new Culture In which it is socially acceptable for Rich Tall Attractive White Men to have many baby momas.

>>514928817
to resolve the contradiction, simply point out that in nature, women wouldn't "choose"
the concept of "choice" or "liberal sexuality"
is a modern luxury, nothing more

>>514929348
Yeah that's a good point. It is just a very tangible metric they can use to signal that they're better than another girl. It is abhorrent behavior, and it is why every spiritual/philosophical tradition rightfully told us to keep women on a short leash, lest they eat the apple.

How many empires have to die because this was forgotten before we learn for good? I think we'll never learn, because there is always those who are disarmed by soft features/voices.

>>514928522 (OP)
The crux of the issue is that nowadays, even the 666 rule isnt enough. women are just broken brainwashed npcs who cannot be reasoned with.

>>514928522 (OP)
Women are to blame no matter what.

Simple as.

>>514928522 (OP)
I think the real problem is that 4s, 5s, and 6s are trying to go for 8s, 9,s and 10s. It's actually a problem for both men and women. Nobody wants to be honest with themselves and everyone thinks they are more valuable than they actually are.

>>514929052
Women want to improve the genetics of their offspring so they go for outliers. They want to have large, strong children so they pick visibly taller men. Women can’t measure, so realistically a 5’11” man is the same as 6’3” in their eyes, be they don’t know the difference. They just want you to be tall.

>>514928794
How the fuck does Taiwan have a flag on here? You're all gooks to me. Next I'll see something outrageous like a Tassie flag..

>>514929598
That ginger is on some oldboy shit

>>514929598
Red haired bro is just stacking bodies.

>>514928522 (OP)
How does the woman have any greater responsibility in germinating the best offspring than the man does? Maybe if we were back in the caveman days where one alpha male fucked and had babies with all the women while all the other guys were weak cucks who could only watch or challenge him. But nowadays we are (mostly) monogamous.
Both of the sexes can be any value individuals who should seek out high value individuals to breed with. Nowhere does it say only the woman gets to choose. Often it's the man, like if he’s a gigachad and/or rich + powerful

>>514930264
female choice in the modern era is mostly a function of supply and demand
and the differences between male and female biology
furthermore the state having a monopoly on violence alters the incentive environment

>>514930264
Because rampant rape is largely a thing of the past (in the West anyway). Women have full power to open or close their legs at will, no man simply impregnates a woman. It's 100% her choice to allow him to do so. Her choice to select that male.

>>514928655
She's not right.
Women are to blame because they're not picking their match.
>date dumb bad boys
>get dumb bad kids
>women get rightfully blamed

>refuse to date anyone not in the top 5% of men
>population crashes
>women rightfully blamed

An average girl needs to date the average guy.
With marriage in play, as another anon pointed out, the best men were taken off the market and they were forced to settle for the best they could get afterwards (which was average guys then).
However with this sexually promiscuous culture, they can just be one of the top 5% rotating sluts. Women have a lower sex drive in the first place so they don't even see anything wrong with this until they try to rope the guy into committing to them, he ditches them, then they cry "where did all the good men go?"
Note that "good" here doesn't mean nice or kind, it means "high value". "Where did all the top quality guys who were willing to fuck me go?" Because they can't understand that just because a guy is willing to fuck them, he's not willing to commit to them.
The perils of a sexually "open" society.
Now, after having a taste of the "high value" men, when she's inevitably forced to settle for the "average" man, he doesn't measure up and she's unhappy and that gets projected to the relationship. Of course everyone here knows this but it's a long slide into civilizational decline.
Especially because we were dumb enough into giving them the vote.
None of this is even mentioning how their brains are affected due to birth control usage and how that also affects their mate selection behaviors.

>>514928522 (OP)
Because they don't pick a stable man with a reasonable middle class job pulling down 70k a year. They breed either exclusively with men they can never pull for long term (making 250k, 6' tall chads,etc) or breed with bottom rung trash that lives on welfare and contributes nothing for society. Why do average women have a hard time picking an average man instead of some freak?

>>514932562
why should she date the average guy or breed with the average guy? honest question
if you had the choice you would exclusively fuck the hottest women
i agree birth control fucks them up

>>514928655
women are never right you dumbass. People are literally asking women to be REASONABLE not date mental retards or midgets. Jfc her post is just woman logic of shifting blame back to men

>>514933955
most women are average in looks and intelligence

>>514928522 (OP)
>If women look out for a man being 6 foot tall and having a six figure income, men complain that their standards are "unrealistic" and "unfair".
Yes, statistically speaking and emotions aside, that's you're average woman thinking they should, by default, be entitled to access a pool of males which, in most regions, would constitute <1% of the population

So we have ~50% of the population of women (bell curve average) competing for less than <1% of men. I've explained this before, and i'll do it again - if you line 100 starving people up for food, and set out 10 Hot hamburgers and 90 pieces of stale bread, everyone's going to line up for the hamburgers. This is not a gender specific issue, this is a retards with access to way too many fucking menu items problem - everyone want's a very limited number of items, but will eventually settle for more or less anything, if the circumstances are dire

Right now, the Government shells out metric fucktons of pussymoney to women for free, for existing (which men almost exclusively subsidize) so the women have 0 reason to do the female equivalent of get the fuck out of bed, put down the potato chips and raise a fucking family. The Government knows hijacking the female vote is so stupid easy a child could do it, so they don't want to fuck with a huge chunk of their voter base of which they can essentially instruct how to vote and think

A vast majority of men are left with what is often not more than table scraps, they have to meet stringent criteria to even enter the competition, let alone "shoot their shot" or whatever the hens cooing about now. That leaves mostly rich assholes, cucks, and retards left, but then by the end of it fucking 80% of them get wealth transferred anyways so what the fuck

It's not even the women, you can't really blame them for the behavior fuck anybody would do this but honestly holy shit, they're all fat like what the actual fuck

>>514928655
Literally just marry any white man who has a job.
Yes, that includes computer software nerds.

>>514928522 (OP)
Society blame women when they choose wife beaters, deadweights and men who show 0 signs of commitments, not when they don't marry the Gigacha bilionaire.

>>514928522 (OP)
>colorist
This reddit post was written by a jeeta.

>>514933989
yes but even average women have access to large numbers of sexual partners
and some are above average
modern women are so inundated with resources and sexual offers >>514934004
their life is literally too easy to even bother getting out of bed for the most part
i noticed there are obese women who are in long term relationships
have jobs receive govt support
so, how are men even supposed to be competitive
in an environment like this?

>>514932562
>Women ignore the herd of okay guys who would have given everything for her
>date dumb bad boys
>get dumb bad kids
>women get rightfully blamed

>Women ignore the herd of okay guys who would have given everything for her
>refuse to date anyone not in the top 5% of men
>population crashes
>women rightfully blamed
Is there anything that women can do to make the right choice? It doesn't seem so.

>>514928655
The thing is, women usually aren't breeding with the guys they pick either. It's casual sex or long term relationship sex with no kids. Hence the low birth rate.
The fundamental flaw in tradcuck ideology is the idea that you can shame most guys into being what women desire (the top 2-5 percent) and tradcucks think this hasn't happened yet not because it's impossible, but because of some retarded reason like "video games" or "guys have too much freedom" etc etc.

>>514934381
correct, you cannot compensate for inferior genetics

>>514928522 (OP)
Do you think it might be because women choose their partners and because it's not the other way around? I mean, if i had my choice I would just do what Leonardo Dicaprio does and bang a hot chick until I get tired of her and then move onto the next. If people told me I made a bad choice dating the wrong woman I would just laugh at them.

>>514934381
Redpill: men want to be desired by women and will fit what women collectively want. When women wanted hardworking men who want to engage for life, we had trad men, not because men wanted to be tradmen but because they had to to not stay alone. In Korea, women want inoffensive and weak newmale and that's what they are.
One of the core rule of behaviorism is that people do what work.

Modern women are why the good men are gone.

>>514928522 (OP)

Misogynist rhetoric on pol is poison-pilled in the sense that woman must remain loyal, chaste, beautiful and sexually available while men can be broke , fat, ugly losers.

Sure buddy. Keep seething. You want a real tradwife? Become a tradman. If you own a single T shirt that's not for the gym, you are the faggot I am talking about.

>>514928522 (OP)
>It's really a catch 22 for a woman choosing a partner, you incels will complain no matter what.
No it's easy, don't choose just off pussy tingles since that seems to make cunts choose dumb, violent, stupid, dark and dysgenic.
Anyone that chooses a nigger deserves what they get.

>>514934247
>how are men even supposed to be competitive in an environment like this?
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if like ~40% of them weren't obese and the rest. Back in your Grandpa's day he could stroll down to the local soda shop as and young lad, and set his interest on what would have been almost any available women, they'd all be no more than a bit chubby, well mannered, feminine and excited about the prospect of a family

Now they get just get knocked up and force every other taxpayer in a 500km radius to subsidize the piss out of their illegitimate - it doesn't matter if they just crank out a kid and shit the bed on motherhood or bitch about having to do (their own) laundry or whatever, the Government will make sure the male is punished accordingly and any available wealth transferred to the women

Now, there's so fucking many of them they all band together like some kind of weird militant coven and try to pressgang any male not yet financially eviscerated into paying his net worth for the privilege of misbehaved bastard children and a hollow marriage

>>514928655
but they arent choosing the best partner
the average woman never reproduces anymore in any developed country

there isnt a single developed coutnry where the average person is having children on average

>>514934549
Men have a desire to fuck, and men have a desire to have a purpose and a responsibility. This is why we invented monogamy: it solve both issue and we can get the beta men to do more than subsistence farming.
Marriage is civilization.

>>514933955
>why would she date the average guy
because the high value guy is out of her league, and normally, in marriage based society, she may attempt to court him sure but she will get turned down and that's that.
She would date the average guy then, because it's either him or the low value guy.
I.e. no other options.

But with casual sex, the high value guy won't mind fucking her because he doesn't need to commit to her / marry her, so whynot.png
This fills her head with false ideas as to her own value, she wastes her good years chasing phantom fantasies, and now she's bitter, old, and alone. Unless she finally "settles" for her male counterpart in which case she's bitter, old, and feeling like she was cheated by life, in no small part due to her pair bonding ability being destroyed by fucking so many men.

>>514928522 (OP)
So basically, a woman is saying women have no choice but to be hypergamic because of social pressure from other women who judge them for their mate choices.
The solution is clear: deny women the right of judgment. We used to have this swept under the rug with edicts against gossip. Now we live in a world dominated by feminine gossip.
So the further solution is clear: deny women access to the Internet.
While we're there, deny them the right to vote, the right to own property, the right to work, and all reproductive rights, all of which will be managed by the men in their family.
See, it's so easy to solve problems women invent, since they are incapable of solving those problems on their own.
> what if someone judges me?
What if you, someone incapable of agency, were treated as someone without agency?

>>514929028
Anything is better than whitey

>>514934247
I need to be very clear here with you.
>why should she date the average guy or breed with the average guy?
>so, how are men even supposed to be competitive
These are two VERY different questions.
The first one is addressing the matter of female motivation. The second one is addressing the matter of male reaction to the current situation.
Female motivation and male (re)action are very different questions.
Female motivation and male motivation are also different topics, and that's using the same second word, and you're not even asking about that.

>what can men do to be competitive
This was already explained above so I won't go into much depth here.
You are asking two different things with your second question: what can men do "now", and what did men do in the ideal scenario.
As far as what men can do now, honestly, not much. You have to make an emotional connection and hope for the best. But even being given the opportunity to make an emotional connection is rare.
In our previous society where casual sex was shunned, the top value men were quickly scooped up by the top value women (more or less), so you average men WERE the "top value men (in regards to what was left)".
The problem is two fold: overexposure to so many different people + promiscuity.
The women are becoming part time whores hoping to use their sexual "prowess" to make the men fall in love with them, believing they're "special". They give everything of themselves only to be utterly rejected when he breaks it off because there are 10 more women willing to spread their legs hoping to get him to fall for them as well.

The answer was society enforced monogamy. This is why women were once the biggest opponents of prostitution and sluts, because it hurt THEIR position.

>>514936006
people are over complicating the issue

women dont get prengant because they are on hormonal birth control

women dont get married because the government guarantees them security through the welfare state, it genuinely doesnt matter to a woman because she isnt reliant on family support systems like she would be historically

i think the marriage problem and the fertility problem are differnet problems

A woma who continues to have sex without birth control, will simply get pregnant, anyone who says otherwise is a retard, if you jail anyone who performs abortions, there will be no abortions

You could change the birth rate of any country on earth in literally like 1 month, but no one is either competent enough to understand this, or is too obessed with judaism to do it

>>514934280
>Is there anything that women can do to make the right choice? It doesn't seem so.
Yes you retard, it was the third not stated option there.
If "women date guys below them = bad", and "women date guys above them = bad", then obviously the correct answer is "date guys on their level".
>Is there anything women can do to make the right choice?
Yes, "have self awareness". Which means the average woman is doomed.
The average woman CAN NOT make the right choice for herself because she lacks this self awareness, that is why society collectively made it for her, but enforcing a shame based culture to stop them from slutting it up, as well as forcing access to sex primarily behind marriage.

>>514934381
Whereas before the subject was society, this is now nature. People will rarely choose "responsibility", but they will always choose pleasure. This is why child making was behind the subconscious seeking of pleasure via the act of sex, and not behind some conscious "is it the right time? Hmm, I wonder, let me think about it for a few more years".
Don't give them choice. No birth control.
If they decide to lose themselves to passion, congrats you have a higher fertility rate again.

>>514934549
>Do you think it might be because women choose their partners and because it's not the other way around?
No. Because one very simple reason:
> I mean, if i had my choice
You don't have your choice, because you aren't high value (most likely, based on your statement). You are the average man, and thus you take what you can get.

>>514934917
>casual wear bad
lmao.

>>514936256
>You could change the birth rate of any country on earth in literally like 1 month, but no one is either competent enough to understand this, or is too obessed with judaism to do it
I will explain:
The elites want a simple world with a small, controllable population of tan colored reliably ~85IQ people just smart enough to be left unattended and survive but stupid enough to be lead about their pastures without ever noticing or caring who or what the rancher is - ideally they would be too stupid to even conceptualize that.

They've got it all figured out. They're gunna pay the smart people hand over fist to churn out AI slop to the point where some kind of acceptable threshold is reached, then they're going to slowly ease off the population until that magic 500 million starts coming into view and let the AI take over, and they want it so the population is hopelessly dependent on the AI - nothing new ever gets invented or discovered, it doesn't need to be and the Elites go in living in an entirely separate reality where they isolate and maximize their genes using CRISPR to the point where in a couple generations they would be effectively gods

Then they just sit back, let the cows fuck occasionally and be sure to throw them enough cud they don't start getting pissy with each other and there you go, you have your own goofy and retarded little minecraft world to do whatever the fuck you please with until you inevitably get bored and decide to try and fuck an alien in which case whatever happens after that is nobody else's fault but their own

>>514936256
>i think the marriage problem and the fertility problem are differnet problems
You are correct, but also not correct.
It's a venn diagram.
The women don't mind "dating around" because they get sex when they want because they're on birth control. They satisfy their itch for cock whenever they want at zero risk, to then continue playing the dating game until they satisfy their mental position.
Without the birth control, they wouldn't date for several years because they're human and humans want sex. They would be forced to either have dangerous sex and get pregnant (which they, for the most part, wouldn't risk) or they would get married to finally have the sex they crave.

>
women dont get married because the government guarantees them security through the welfare state, it genuinely doesnt matter to a woman because she isnt reliant on family support systems like she would be historically
This is also true and I have nothing to add onto it.

>You could change the birth rate of any country on earth in literally like 1 month, but no one is either competent enough to understand this, or is too obessed with judaism to do it
Also correct. While I agree the jews are largely to blame, in this case the issue is more the west's obsession with "freedom" (while turning a blind eye to almost every country in the west save the US* now arresting people for mean things said on social media but being very critical of china and russia doing the same like the hypocrites they are).
* The US will still do whatever they can if you speak out on Israel, going so far as to draft new laws about it.

If I had to summarize the west's issues succinctly: they are sacrificing the country for the individual, not even caring where the individual is from as evident by the rampant migration.

Stop complaining. Start breeding. Quit being so selfish and stop thinking about yourself. Think about boomer stonks and house prices.

>>514937125
>Think about boomer stonks and house prices.
That's what's keeping me from breeding

I have a *real* fix, but nobody is going to like it:
>Allow the citizen to opt out of tax applications in lieu of service
>Police, ambulance and fire are mandatory
>You pay for what you use
>Drive a car: Road tax
>Don't drive a car: No road tax
>No kids: No taxes for education, welfare, all of that stuff
>Kids: Mandatory taxes for education, welfare, all that stuff
>100% of women will opt into the "oh but the kids" tax bracket
>Single, fatherless men will pay near 0 taxes, as they are using near 0 services, allowing them to thrive
>Women will have to pay for each other's mistakes
>They will not be happy, and will immediately begin a public shaming campaign against bad mothers shitting out kids and eating up the resources
>Women are their own worst enemy, it will turn into "save it for the widows" "stay married, I want my free gibs!"
>They'll all try to block each other from using the system to maximize their own benefits and will use social stigma to do so
>Good women in genuine trouble will receive the help they need
>Shitty women will be strongly avoided by single, tax free men
>Women will immediately readjust from "fuck you, pay me" to "lets just stay married" overnight
>Men will notice a drastic increase in the quality and attitude of women, and will happily settle with whichever gumball happens to roll out of the slot

This system will keep the most vulnerable aloft will reducing tolerance for predatory and parasitic behaviour while allowing young men to quickly amass they types of income and status needed to facilitate the rearing of a family and homestead

There's gunna be shitloads of poor quality single mothers screaming about this, but that's how you fix it

>>514928655
>drug dealer Jamal is too picky

I'm of the opinion that women should not be selecting their partners because they choose the wrong guy every single time.

>>514932562
This is the gist of it well done on the accurate doom-pilling


The ruination of all things pure in this world:

Who is most responsible? Men in general but the true MVP of ruining women and thus most everything good about this existence? You should need but 1 guess.

- Feminism --- 90% Jews
- Women's Suffrage --- Jewish politician driven, Jew Women Organized, Jew Newspaper Driven
- "The Pill" Inventor --- Jew
- Anti-Slut shaming --- 100% Jew media & Pop culture driven
- Promotion of niggers as desirable via pop culture(entertainment & sports) --- 100% Jews
- Making niggers millionaires on every college campus via paying 70IQ athletes 6 & 7-figures where they become the "big man on campus" and taint ~10% to 25% of brainwashed College aged women
- The "BBC" meme(absolute myth to any realistic degree a few centimeters on average difference) --- 100% a Jew owned porn industry creation out of whole cloth
- Destroying men and women's brains with porn and making society obsessed with casual soul-destroying sex --- Jew pop-culture/Hollywood Jew
- I could keep going for pages and pages.....

Honestly, the upcoming tribulation will be these people being brought to heel via God's wrath. Make plenty of popcorn it will be pure righteous justice.

>>514928655
tens of millions of single mothers indicate that women fucking suck at 'picking' anything at all

>"r/DeepThoughts"
>you post your own thoughts
fucking redditors.

>>514938642
They're like children - you can't blame them for unsupervised behavior and it's arguably not even gender specific, humans in general are retarded but the average woman is exceptionally deficient in this category

Give them free unfettered access to choice and humans will reliably select whichever reward returns the highest dopamine feedback, not unlike what a fucking robot would do. If candy is cancerous but provides a superior dopamine reward when compared to the dry nutritional loaf, they will select the candy every time and even go so far as to socially ostracize the few who used their fucking neurons, but it's not their fault - they got hijacked and aren't provided sufficient education to even realize what the fuck is happening because the Government and corpos are too busy high-fiveing each other after counter their stacks and dunking on the poor fucks, so they can facilitate one of my above posts into existence

Humans too stupid to understand how the limbic system works and how little elective control they actually have over their own minds - they think their consciousness is the ultimate - self, lmao no it exists only to serve the desires of the limbic system.

Nobody wants to come to terms with that, and here we are

>I told Kimmy everything, you fuckers have some questions to answer

>>514928522 (OP)
I will blame women because I think that they shouldn't have rights. I don't like them as people.
That's it, really.

women don't really choose anything.
To be able to choose you need to have the ability to make decisions. Women don't make decisions, their reality is defined "in the moment" by "this particular emotion".

I'd just say, let them crash and burn

>>514939295
>Women don't make decisions, their reality is defined "in the moment" by "this particular emotion"
So you, as a man, the superior creature who is blessed with the logic and reason of God himself would stand idly by and merely mock the haphazard attempts of what is clearly another helpless creature; citing his position of inherent superiority?

To me, it is not a question of a man's duty - this is clear, but it is what he is to do once his restitution for doing so has diminished to the level of apathetic expectation? Does he cease his duty, or does he perform it but only with callous acknowledgement?

Either of these choices lead a man astray, and eventually he becomes presented with an unsavory notion:
>Once a man no longer has reason to live, he finds reason to die

>>514928655
>to pick the best men
to pick the best man she can actually bag. That should be a huge if. As for you, it should motivate you to become the best possible version of yourself. Thats a huge if as well

>>514933955
They have no choice.

Sure, an average girl can get laid by a chad, but no chad will marry her.

The choice they have is an illusion.

>>514939613
>So you, as a man, the superior creature who is blessed with the logic and reason of God himself would stand idly by and merely mock the haphazard attempts of what is clearly another helpless creature
yes pretty much, because any of my attempts to enforce logic is criminalised under the current system and can land me in jail.

And if I have to make a logical choice between sacrificing my freedom for a woman, or keeping my freedom and letting women burn, I chose the logical choice.

>>514928522 (OP)
>superficial baby's first inner monologue
>r/deepthoughts
checks out

>>514928655
women don't know what a good man is. They will think a tall violent drug dealer is a good man cause it makes her pussy wet lulz. We need to take all their rights away and go back to arranged marriages. The women will be happier for it too.

>>514929028
The whole rhetoric behind hypergamy ideology might crumble if the guy believing in such stupig goes outside
He'll soon realize that white women are breeding with niggers not rich handsome
smart men

>>514928655
Who is judging these women harshly for doing these things? Who is telling them that it's wrong for them to act the way they do when they do literally anything other than date Chad? Other than their one point about how women are LITERALLY FUCKING ANIGMALS sometimes, it's women. It's literally all women. No man on this fucking planet unironically complains about a woman dating someone 5'7" unless they're tall and jealous af. No one unironically complains about a woman dating a fat dude other than skinny/muscular men being jelly.

>>514928522 (OP)
Anon, I seriously don't give two shits about women's problems.
There's only one person whose wellbeing, satisfaction, needs, wants and opinions matter to me.
That person is me.
I tried talking to women to get into their pussy, but it was extremely boring and the time I wasted doing that wasn't worth the pussy I got.
Now I simply ignore them, focus on the stuff I enjoy doing and if I get a sudden boner I simply go the nearest brothel and have some 8/10 Slavic girl take care of it, which barely costs me 80-100 euros.

>>514928522 (OP)
>colorist circles

>>514928817
>most women would pick the bear over the man

>>514939748
>yes pretty much, because any of my attempts to enforce logic is criminalised under the current system and can land me in jail
I can only assume here you're alluding to exercising the inherit male position of "might is right" when this power of logic and reason bestowed upon you has failed to assist you in the endeavors of manhood. There is no crime in reasoning with a woman, if done correctly her pants fall off, i've seen it with my own eyes, nonetheless - Kimmy is right, none of what you've showcased here is befitting of a quality family man.

The problem lies wherein the man in question has exhausted all possible avenues of logic and reason, and is powerless to only watch as the creature he so adores fails helplessly in the wrought of survival. He is left witch the choice of either reconciling the notion that perhaps his God was will equipped or setting himself upon the fellow men who stand to profit from adversary

A good man wants none of this, and so he stands with his thoughts, Godless, and watching his brothers. It is all he can do, else he await his father's unlikely return.

>>514928522 (OP)
American women are like 170 pounds on average that's not even close to ideal nor genetically good

>>514929598
Some of the best fights I ever had were with gingers. Borderline downie tier strength some of those cunts.

>>514940929
I used to date a woman who had a pruple belt in Judo and could have me on the floor in under 3 seconds if she wanted to, and she was half my size. I still beat her in stand-up while piss drunk though, one poke bait to left hook was enough, though she did get mad when I kept asking if she was ok, lool

We used to wrestle sometimes too but i'd mostly just rock up and gas her out

>>514940913
>There is no crime in reasoning with a woman
this sentence is an oxymoron

Men use reason, women use emotions.
A woman's pants fall off only when her emotions are stroked. She has no care for reasons.
You're probably a virgin

>>514941234
>You're probably a virgin
I have fucked mountains of pussy
>A woman's pants fall off only when her emotions are stroked
Stroking the emotions is crutch used by weak men avoid a direct challenge with a woman. Imagine interacting with a woman and having to employ the tools of said woman in gain momentum, you may as well put on a fucking dress and sit politely with the rest of them

>>514941467
>I have fucked mountains of pussy
so 400lbs
>direct challenge with a woman
women crumble immediately under such pressure. Women don't like being challenged

>>514941526
the direct challenge involves looking them in the eyes and understanding they just want sex

>>514941593
>a woman wants (...)
another virgin

>>514941526
>so 400lbs
I'm not sure the grand total, but it's better measured in distance rather than mass. 400km of pussy sounds about right
>women crumble immediately under such pressure. Women don't like being challenged
Yet he still differs to the pathetic act of appealing to emotion to further interest

>>514941669
>Yet he still differs to the pathetic act of appealing to emotion to further interest
?

Challenge has nothing to do with emotion.

>>514941467
u sound silly bro. I dated a woman with a phd and she was also dumb as a rock/emotional all the while claiming to be logical and different to other women. They are all the same. You certainly can't reason with them.

>>514941704
>Challenge has nothing to do with emotion.
Best kind of correct fallacy, you're not even asserting anything here
>>514941743
>I dated a woman with a phd and she was also dumb as a rock/emotional
What field, PHD does not imply intelligence but persistence
> while claiming to be logical and different to other women
Compared to other women, she's probably not wrong
>They are all the same. You certainly can't reason with them.
Not in the same capacity which you expect from another man. Lower your expectations.

>>514928522 (OP)
They earn it.

>>514928522 (OP)
>ugly
applies to the woman as well, if she's ugly, fat, etc., that kid will be too
>can't provide
hey hey, 50/50 and if you make good money too your kids won't be poor, we don't live in a society whee men only provide because you can work and paid like a man too, in fact, men are paid less because the job market is flooded with women
so unless she looks like a model, AND make 6fig, should shut the fuck up and accept any dude, simply because her clock is ticking unlike men, and she has 10y max of finding a good man willing to settle with her before she's a permanent doggo mom

>>514941743
women generally live in a world of "malleable truth"
What is "true" to a woman is not what is objectively true, but only what "feels" true to her in a particular moment.

This is why for example it's always women who absolutely hate generalisations or statistics. If you mention any observation or cliché about the female gender, they immediately default to "stop generalising, not every woman is like that" - and it is visible that they feel threatened by generalisations, it always conjures up a powerful reaction.

This faggots like this one here >>514940913
try to imply that you can "reason" with a woman.
Reason has prerequisites. For starters, reason cannot be based on malleable truths, it has to be based on linear logic. (which is something women consider to be a hindrance more than a tool)

>>514941880
>What field, PHD does not imply intelligence but persistence
English Literature (top kek)

No man has ever shit on a woman for marrying a short man, it's always other women. Men complain rightfully when some retarded hole marries a wifebeater or a nigger.

>>514941962
>This faggots like this one here
>try to imply that you can "reason" with a woman.
>Reason has prerequisites. For starters, reason cannot be based on malleable truths, it has to be based on linear logic. (which is something women consider to be a hindrance more than a tool)

>He needs to remove "malleable truth" from the equation of conversation else he is powerless to compete when confronted with the insurmountable obstacle of the woman
This guy is too fucking stupid to talk to women, and I think it's really funny. Everyone laugh at him.
>Haha, retard

There, I won. I didn't want to do that, but there you go

>>514942053
>No man has ever shit on a woman for marrying a short man, it's always other women.
and more than that, it's usually men who accept blame, and women who never accept blame.

This is because one who accepts blame, can use it to make the world better, to fix things or improve things.
Women do not have the biological/evolutionary role of fixing things, or making the world better, their only function is to pop-out babies and make use of the food/shelter/supplies/transport/energy that is given to them by men.

>>514942129
>Everyone laugh at him.
Am I talking to a woman right now?

>>514928522 (OP)
>Why do men blame women no matter whom they choose as a partner?
Because she didn't pick them.

>>514928522 (OP)
it's easier to blame others because then you don't need to take any accountability. it doesn't really matter who is at fault. weak people will always blame others, strong people will always focus on what they can do

>>514942046
>English Literature (top kek)
PHD in reading and knowing the context of old books. I've met these types before.

>>514942184
Well, I suppose anything is possible,
>Keep going tho, i'm getting close

>>514942389
I mean you talk like a woman

>>514928655
men for decades looked the same, they didn't get fat at the same rate as women, they didn't get uglier too, women mostly didn't choose men based on look and yet their kids and grand kids looked good. Look at women now, in 5 years only the majority of women are ugly, fat, full of tattoo, have shitty attitude like OP that she still thinks she's a catch, if anything, guys are the ones who should be saying the above anyway.
Look at vidrel, that dude is 7/10 young, and these women are literal 4/10 chink with deformed faces and teeth, and yet acting like they are better, the same chink who would eat his ass if she wasn't a US citizen and a sea monkey or chinkoid outside hoping to be here. Reality is, women are delusional and got inflated especially in the US

>>514941203
Was she ginger or are you just drunk reminiscing, hockey-chan?

>>514942463
Kimmy said the same thing, she thought that I was a woman too
I think it's funner if nobody knows

>What if I was hot. Like really, really hot? What then, anon?

>>514942567
>she thought that I was a woman
if a woman thought you're a woman and yet you're not, then you're a faggot

>>514942502
they have public humiliation rituals for random guys now?

>>514930209
Koreans are gooks, Taiwanese would be chinks as they are majority han Chinese.

>>514942654
>if a woman thought you're a woman and yet you're not, then you're a faggot
Yeah try convincing her of that, KEK

>>514928522 (OP)
>I can only choose the top .1% or the lowest 1%
>There are no other options

>>514928522 (OP)
>browsing reddit
May as well kill yourself at this point OP

>>514928522 (OP)
Shut up you fucking whore.

I gotta say I'm annoyed by everyone crying about women's standards. Do you really want to be with a woman who feels coerced to be with you? If they want the rich chad or whatever, let them share him for all I care.

>>514943048
Also, my standards BTFO to outer space a higher percentage of women than women's standards do. Yeah, I as many men would fuck a huge portion of women, but marry? Almost none in existence.

>>514942811
>Yeah try convincing her of that, KEK
i have no idea who she is, but I know who you are, a faggot

>>514939857
That's part two to this mess.
When I said "women will settle for the best of what they have", that has dark implications as well. If the only men flirting with them are the low inhibition types not caring about current state of things , then that's all they have to choose from.
The average man today is looking at the vast amount of online interactions and going "I don't measure up, I shouldn't even try". He's rejecting himself before she even gets a chance to, due to high inhibition.
He would be much better served being ignorant of the dating world and letting himself risk rejection; for a 2% success rate is infinitely better than a zero percent due to not even trying.

>>514942865
>May as well kill yourself at this point OP
It's just Discord leftists and glowies trying to paint 4chan a distinct and specific shade with a carefully psyopped brush by bait-posting association entrapment but it's far more entertaining to just shit on them than to engage with their childish rhetoric

It's the internet equivalent of eavesdropping on someone's conversation like a faggot then jumping in at an awkward moment with the "terroristincelssaywhat" then Redflagging which ever poor fuck happens to be standing the closest to the microphone and carting him off as an example to mount on the wall and brag to the wife about

>Hey honey I sit in spinny chairs and try to bait sad, disenfranchised fucks into vaguely associating with a rubber stamped shitpost of approval cooked up by the whole team of equally deranged jackboots, except we're somehow the good guys because we have all the guns and shit

He's gunna get divorce raped, deserve it and nobody's gunna care

>>514942843
Womemes: not even once.

>>514943228
>He would be much better served being ignorant of the dating world and letting himself risk rejection; for a 2% success rate is infinitely better than a zero percent due to not even trying.
it doesn't matter whether you succeed or not, because the union you will build with a woman won't serve your interests anyway.

Problem has very little to do with rejection, and more to do with consistency and function. If you want someone who actually improves your life, then these days the chances are akin to 0%

>>514928522 (OP)
>>514928655
Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.

It's not my fault w*men keep bringing more useless eaters into this world. If they start using some form of contraception or at least try closing their legs once in a while that'd be good with me.

If you are white and are unable to produce and provide you shouldnt be breeding anyway. As long as the woman isnt being a race traitor, there is nothing wrong with the selection. 60-80k is a typical wage range woman will accept, its also a wage range that most careers will pay. If you are a white man and make less than 50k you are either A) too young and should wait to get involved with a woman or B) a nigger wearing a white skinsuit

>>514943259
Yeah honestly youre probably right, I just like to post that because I know reddit users lurk here.
Glowies that come here are pathetic though, what a sad career

>>514943468
>As long as the woman isnt being a race traitor
women don't understand the concept of race, ethnicity, tribalism or any kind of group-ism. These are all male concepts that come from a male brain.
And this is why for example mothers are very accepting of whom their daughter breeds with (even if he's a monkey), but fathers are always against it

>>514930200
Women are not thinking about the benefit of anyone other than themselves.

>>514943569
>Women are not thinking about the benefit of anyone other than themselves.
and this is why they shouldn't be allowed to do impactful jobs, like military and governmant

>>514943538
>or any kind of group-ism
Nonsense. They are intensely feminist and basically have a hivemind that conspires against men.

>>514943569

This.
The only reason they (might) make good mothers is because it would reflect badly on them if they were shit mothers.

They dont care about their kids - they care about themselves and how they are perceived

>>514943490
>Glowies that come here are pathetic though, what a sad career
They don't care. They are predators, seeking, stalking then finally pouncing on their prey. They're too stupid to do anything else, it's why they are tasked here though if they CONTINUE to detonate psyops against their own populations, eventually they're going to be made to explain why half the demo crew is now contaminated with radioactive explosive residue and are no longer fit for service to an entity whom already knows the answers

>If they say anything, they are fucked
>If they say nothing, they are fucked
Kimmy fucks like a champ too, I was there, a bunch of times

>>514943647
>Nonsense. They are intensely feminist and basically have a hivemind that conspires against men.
feminism's main victims are females though
there's no hivemind, there's just constant bitching

women backstab other women on a daily basis, even in friend circles

>>514943738
Women are victims. They're just too mentally weak to even play Minecraft on peaceful. They'll struggle and complain no matter what. Objectively, they ranked the fuck up compared to just a hundred years ago.

>>514943800
Women aren't victims.*

>>514943828
well you can call them toddlers in adult bodies

>>514943888
I'm not sure about the adult bodies part either.

>>514943928
depends on metrics, but yes it's true women even physically are more child-like

If you were raped by Shrek (female) for 10,000 years, after they removed all women (for being weak and gay), you would:
>Be insane
>Have some antipathy towards shreks
>Develop a fetish for murderous rape ogres
>Distrust shreks and only show acceptable opinions and stances near them, although if you outwit the shrek, baiting is also an option
>Feign ignorance and almost panic when approached by a member of the opposite sex
>Have your tribalistic instinct almost entirely geared for your sex, as opposed to race - shreks are so inhuman that your entire sex would unite against the subhuman type
>You would always seek to hinder and subdue their ways as a weak revenge
>You would have a conflicted attitude to reproduction, fantasizing about ending your line because it was tainted by Shrek and your perverted shreksuality
>Lose your joy during puberty because shreks will gain interest
>Make lots of money on OgreFans, where you don't need to touch them or be near them, you can just sell images of yourself to them
>Fill HR departments and institutions to ruin the fun of shreks, from video games to all other entertainment

>>514933955
Why should the avarage guy not kidnap and rape a woman of his choice?

>>514943980
Feminazis (or femcels more like) like to tout their moral and whatever other superiority they believe they have, when absolutely no data exists to corroborate it.
>m-men do all the rape!
Men do all the everything in human reproduction. Even getting pregnant is just an involuntary bodily function for women. You're passive as can be.
>and murder!
Ditto. Men got to the point where nature is no longer a challenge and other men are competition. Without us, mammoths and sabertooth tigers would hunt women down to extinction.

You're useless.

>>514928522 (OP)
At this point I am brainstorming an alternative setting that split from this one, where women's rights have been reduced to that of men after the introduction of the artificial womb, companionbots and creating eggcells from male sperm.

I take great pleasure enforcing women the norah Vincent treatment on a global scale, though I am still trying to generate a few character cards on men and women living in that setting that also needs more in-depth lore.

First I wanted to go for genetically altered clones (I mean, humans were willing to inject dubious gene therapy into themselves), but by understanding the ramifications and complexity, I had to stop myself partially and pivot to this instead.

>>514928522 (OP)
Not my problem get fucked roasties.

>>514944613
>creating eggcells from male sperm.
Is that really how it works? Science is kind of homo when you think about it. Based.

>>514928522 (OP)
also if a woman picks a non Chad (which is 90%) he's a beta buck or simp she only settled for because she couldn't do better.

>>514943980
This is a pretty good insight into the sick twisted mind of the tradcuck /pol/ poster.

>>514944685
It's incredible how many men still don't understand this. My own brother is still a bluepiller. They just cannot cope or something. I think every man should be shown text messages Chads receive.

>>514944759
How is it an insight into the mind of a /pol/ poster? It's describing female psychology you leaf.

Women pick violent retards. That's the problem.

>>514928655
The ideal scenario is her father choosing a husband for her, which is what built civilization

>>514944867
Western world is severely lacking in violent retards. We balkanimals beat and mug foreign workers on a daily basis. It's all over the news. You fags cannot even protect yourself from mass rape and terrorism.

>>514928522 (OP)

She's just framing the argument so she cannot be at fault. Of course people will disagree with you no matter what you do, it's your responsibility to pick the best choice regardless of what people think. This is unconscionable for certain 'people' who want to be led by the nose and receive standing ovations for doing what they are told. Children, in other words.

>>514928817
Easy enough to solve with a death penalty for serial murder. It is really just the state thats failing to enforce policy.

>>514929598
The guy with the black shirt/green logo dodges two punches clean then gets dropped
shyiiiiit

>>514945009
Unless they go after women. Those are the ones women flick their beans to the most. I'd even make serial murder against women legal and see how that would work. Would women complain or accept it? We need an experiment.

>>514943980
forgot the part where you fuck 50 shreks voluntarily by the time you hit 20

>>514944801
He's using metaphors to describe the collective and individual lives of women. He's trying to explain how they are oppressed and thus they develop an angst towards guys. Just more tradcuck garbage.

>>514945101
LMFAO
Womemes entire lives are just self-own.

>>514945116
But feminazis do be that way.

>>514928522 (OP)
Why blame women for being so picky then blame them for getting knocked up by broke ex-con? You can't have it both ways.

>>514945202
He's got it right about how bitter and vengeful they are, but look at the beginning of the post. It's going on about muh women oppressed and trying to justify their behavior.

>>514945262
That's also a part of their pickiness. You have to be as criminal as possible to get their juices running. Honestly kind of based because it will inevitably grind gynocratic society to a halt.

Also, the answer to womeme pickiness is simple: be even pickier when it comes to relationshits with them. Fuckzone women.

>>514945309
Because that's a feminazi who honestly believes that shit.

>>514942780
Sorry homo, they are ALL gooks. Its my problem if you want to catagorise the chinks into separate categories. I WAANNNNN 2 B NIIIINNNNJAAAA!!!!

>>514945101
Nah that's easily researched in Japanese docunentaries.
>Corruption, ugly bastard, mindbreak

>>514945525
NOT!!

>>514945262
Because there is no middle ground between a male model who also happens to be a CEO, and a heroin trafficking Crip, right?

>>514928655
>picking nigger thugs over the average men
>it's such a catch 22!
You are just retarded like the one in OP
>>514928522 (OP)
Are you really talking about men or other women?
The things the redditor talks about are putting 2 different people together.
Having children with a thug or a bum is not encouraged in any circumstances by any sane person.
Also a normal man would not berate a woman for marrying an average or even less than average man.
The second part for sure would come from oteher women trying to spread misery.

>>514930264
>Maybe if we were back in the caveman days where one alpha male fucked and had babies with all the women while all the other guys were weak cucks who could only watch or challenge him

I'm sorry. Are you trying to pass off your weird cuck fetish as how our species operated?

>>514945116
You wouldn't breed the opposite sex to look like men. In fact, if I -or anybody else for that matter- wanted to insult you, I'd imply that you are attracted to the male form.

You may come up with an excuse as to why it's the most common offense on the planet (to be attracted to the uglier sex as the uglier sex), but I think you'd much rather cope about it.

Indeed, women even laugh when a shrek baby is tortured and abused - no matter the oxytocin they are flooded with. Look at circumcision parties done by Americans, jews or muslims.

>>514944679
It's based on interesting articles, maybe I should see if I can make it plausible to deviate from it into a less gay perspective

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64893170.amp


Personally, I have been surrounded by so many women with atrocious characteristics, that I rather jack off to hentai or cartoon titties.
Too many eggshells, always complaining, never be able to communicate with her like a human being, expected to read minds, constantly bitter and angry that life isn't fair, resentments that come from nowhere and aren't even originating from your actions but you have to swallow it anyway....

After a while your dick gets flaccid when a woman approaches you, even a fresh one.

I have been so out of loop regarding relationships and sex, that I have trouble believing that it will come with any positive outcomes.
Whether in the act, where I would love to sate my curiosity and explore her nook and cranny, or afterwards where there'll be regret charges or badmouthing afterwards.
I have difficulty viewing them, who want to spend their 10 years after they reach the legal age, want to be whores, even as attractive unless I could feel safe around them and their proxies.

Maybe that's why I liked the idea of domestically owned clones so much, it gave one enough control and safety that they could learn to disable the survival mode for once and enjoy the moment with someone that you could actually trust and be open with.

That's never gonna happen in real life.

>>514928522 (OP)
only infants blame women.

>>514945835
It's actually really easy to understand why men are disgusted by homosexuality. It's an evolutionary mechanism that kept us away from fucking each other in order to force reproduction, which is actually more evidence of women being insufferable. Darwinism had to kick in by implanting irrational disgust in men just so they would deal with women.

>>514946033
Nah, both men and women get the ick. It's natural.
Pretty much only men purchase sex, though post menopausal women (who look like men) also do so.
I think men are just that disgusting. Heck, men invented flamethrowers to kill their own mirror images.

>>514946210
You have biases you do not understand. Male animals of basically all vertebrate species are physically more majestic than their female counterparts, but the dynamics are the same as in humans. We are the objectively fair gender. You're blobby messes that cake their faces with paint to not look like little boys.

New

INCEL

thread

just

dropped!

>>514928522 (OP)
Like I give the slightest fuck. Stop shitting up my board.

>>514929052
Can we start memeing that height gaps are like age gaps
Fucking pedophile oh yeah you like being 5'2 while your bf daddy is 6'3 isnt that right?
We gotta spin this I need to shame tallfags and women

>>514946033
>It's an evolutionary mechanism that kept us away from fucking each other in order to force reproduction
I think it's much simpler than this. I mean, God has blessed us men in a way where shit stinks because that's our brains trying to associate that with disgust (anti-dopamine) in order to discourage us in the most aggressive way possible from eating it, so it seems logical that when met with the idea of sticking your dick where the stink exists is a terrible for every reason imaginable, even to a retarded caveman (protip: they were actually smart as fuck) to the point where none in existence would for any logical reason whatsoever ever do such a thing, and perhaps they few who had were met with immediate horrific death due to complications of sticking their sticks in shit

God has made it very clear: Do not stick your dick in shit

>>514929044
>(and have a few flings/affair partners
/pol/ does not realize that in the past womanizers were shunned by all normal men. They would get the shit kicked out of them or worse for cheating or taking advantage of a woman sexually. Shotgun weddings were a real thing.

>>514946464
>God
I'm Deist or Christian depending on the time of day and I stopped reading there.

>>514928655
I would literally kick you fucking teeth in

>>514945835
I know that you're a tradcuck who thinks poor women they are so oppressed waaaaahhh. There is nothing else for you to tell me. I wonder how so many of you made /pol/ your home though.

>>514946319
>Male animals of basically all vertebrate species are physically more majestic than their female counterparts, but the dynamics are the same as in humans.
Simians turn this around. The female form is a celebration, a competition of looks. Whilst I don't like the baboon form, they are an example. Though their males do have facial coloration as well.
The male body is disgusting and results in misery for men
>"boohoo I'm alone"
>Drafted to kill other disgusting monsters
>Pay taxes
>Control everything because all you have as a man is a competitive edge - and that's 99% of the time something outside your body, like money, technology, organization, talent
Men who are emperors have always shared my dream, but have to contend with femboys, castrata and transsexuals.
The shemale is a strictly superior form.

>>514928522 (OP)
> Muh man muh women
Are you some fucking normie? Women sell your nation to immigrants but all you care about is muh dating. Absolutely pathetic

>>514946536
I want to get rid of the toxic sexual dimorphism our species suffers from.
Men cultivate the female form, every subset of men cultivate a particular body part to maintain it. To desexualize and deperson a woman, she needs to be entirely covered up - even the silhouette has to be ruined; some sluts in a burka can make even that work.
The male form only has a phallos that is valid.

>>514946572
>Simians turn this around.
The hell they do.
>>"boohoo I'm alone"
Only said by greenhorns under 23 and the most (ironically) effeminate s()ybeans in existence. Sometimes a man is outwardly masculine and behaves like this, but by and large most men are only sexually drawn to you and repulsed in every other way. 10 minutes on pornhub a day is all that's needed to replace women.
>tranny talk
Not even gonna comment.

>>514928522 (OP)
I’m just over 6 foot, and decently attractive, but let me just say. It doesn’t matter. This is just typical female gaslighting, because women leave the man and raise the kid alone anyway. They can get gibs from many sources. They don’t need a man. So it’s just the usual stupidity from a foid.

Really, women are not worth listening to, at all.

>>514946753
Which gender peacocks every day with makeup and trendy clothes, and which one wears a global uniform of being a soulless worker drone?
Is the male body searched for as often as the female - especially sexually?

>>514929200
How would they wake up dead?
>>514934280
This, there is no catch 22, it's just women being retarded.
>>514929267
Anyone saying hypergamy is good is ousting himself as a retard.

>>514946944
>Which gender peacocks every day with makeup and trendy clothes
That's just female retardation. Simply showing skin does more than whatever womemes spend 90% of their waking hours on. On the other hand, men are indeed peacocking with status symbols AND are actually intensely filtered according to their physical traits. The gigachad is the representative of human prowess and superiority, not the lowly female.

>>514928522 (OP)
>>514929348
>>514929049

>>514928522 (OP)
So reddit is now advocating for eugenics? do these people stand for anything?

>>514945843
Sorry for neglecting you Fritz. I wanted clones once too, but it's a silly fantasy. Reproduction/demographics are the government's problem, not yours. Live for yourself.

>>514946466
>/pol/ does not realize that in the past womanizers were shunned by all normal men
No shit, the reason being is there was nothing wrong with a vast majority of women, and it was loosely understood that there was no reason as to why a man would not make a woman out of her, unless he is a heartless bastard, in which case yes, some convincing ought to do

Now, the spectacle is entirely different. Men are getting cooked by mind-fried women too interested in chasing the next Insta notification ding and rationalizing what is arguably murdering children en mass out of convenience because "but I get free myself from oppressors who don't like this" No, give a fuck if we're going extinct - chad on tv is dating a bag of fucking scrambeled eggs so now let's just toss a functional, high trust society out the window and fuckup the future for who the fuck cares how many more souls

>WAHH BUT IM SAD TODAY THO
Figure it out or get replaced by a fucking robot. I'm dead serious you have 10 years.

>>514947090
Boyim are cattle.
Everything that separates an ape from a man is also what separates a woman from a man.
Ergo, men are subhuman.

>>514948273
Upper body strength: apes > men > women
Hairiness: apes > men > women
Smelliness: apes > men > women
Butt size: women > men > apes
Breast size: women > men > apes
Neoteny: women > men > apes
Aggression: apes > men > women
Dexterity: women > men > apes
Etc. Etc.

>>514948273
>Boyim are cattle.
I can agree on this. Most men are witless beasts of burden.

>>514948473
>Neoteny: women > men > apes
You could have just went with that to save yourself from typing. Women are physically (and mentally) immature.
>Dexterity: women > men > apes
Only in fine motor skills, which is merely a consequence of their smaller frames and weaker muscles. Overall dexterity is still our advantage.

>>514948617
>Only in fine motor skills
Yeah, the part that enables tool use...
You're just a gay zoophile.

>>514948701
If by tool you mean a sewing kit, sure. Otherwise, no.

>>514948753
>>514948771
White boy problems.

>>514928522 (OP)
She is right though, women shouldn't be choosing their mates at all.

>>514928522 (OP)
women are not capable of making sound desicions without a man firmly in control of her. this was established in the garden of eden it does not need to be proven further.

>>514928655
>>514928522 (OP)
This post (with the vote counter inconspicuously cropped) is not an argument. They're justifying the entitlement of women by pretending they're trying to select for a worthwhile mate.
A man who is short or not rich aren't indicators of quality of male partner or father for offspring. Rejecting a man based on those qualities are indicators of superfluous sexual desire.
They're not trying to eugenically breed for the greatest-quality offspring (they believe in selecting for ideal genes all of the sudden??), they just want to satisfy their own sexual fetishes and reap social status.
Women need to get over themselves and be humble enough to accept men that are closer to their own league. Every single sub-7 uggo woman is seriously demanding Hugh Jackman as their bare minimum standard. The levels of female entitlement to male physicality is insanely disgusting and one of the main reasons "all the good men have gone."

>>514928794
This.
Women seem to gravitate to extremes when there are plenty of my normal guys out there ro choose from.

Just take a person with a stable job, no tattos, no addictions and that don't punch you, and is a fine men

>>514928655
The amount of seethe this post generated guarantees it's true

>>514929598
>giving them the ol truffle shuffle
>>514928880
The tall girls are all talking to me

t. 5'11 Chad

>>514928522 (OP)
>you incels will complain no matter what.

precisely. if all else fails, just blame kikes. it's all so tiresome.

inb4 "fuck off, roastie/heeb/jeet/nigger/paki/shitskin/turkroach/brownoid/muzzie".

>>514928522 (OP)
Point is that women should stick with what they choose instead of fucking around. If they did that, they would not they care what others say, but because they don't they think that men should tolerate some mudspawns just to feed the ego of the women.

>>514928522 (OP)
Normies are becoming aware of cloaca gentium kek.

>>514928522 (OP)
The second part is weird af. That person walks in worse circles than this place.

>>514946466
>/pol/ does not realize that in the past womanizers were shunned by all normal men

That was before 1960's sexual liberation, contraception, abortion on demand, welfare for single mothers, etc.

It was assumed any given woman was chaste, having sex would likely result in pregnancy, she couldn't just kill the baby in the womb and having one out of wedlock would be a great burden on her and her family.

None of that is true these days. Most women aren't chaste. Feminists will shriek and try to cancel you if you tell them they should be chaste. It's easy to prevent or end a pregnancy. Even if she does become a single mother the government will pay for everything.

The rules of the game are totally different today.

>>514928655
But women don’t pic the best men
That’s pretty obvious

>>514928522 (OP)
Ive never heard that argument made irl even once. Complete fiction.
What DOES happen is that women are attributed self-responsibility for choosing outright violent/criminal men, which she conveniently didn't mention.

>>514942502
the rating system is flawed,
because due to supply and demand
the 3&4 women have access to 7 men
so in essence, all women, even ugly and fat
can be picky
its essentially a buyers market for women
this is why “looksmatch” doesn’t make sense
and you see ogre women with attractrive men
those attractive men have less options than ogre women

>>514946709
Interesting post. Covering women up is something I ignore because as you can see in the case of middle eastern women, it does absolutely nothing to give them a better character. Unless it comes along with very strict social enforcement, and lets be honest, guys don't have it in them anymore to be like that.

>>514954664
>its essentially a buyers market for women
Women are sellers though. Sexual objects even. Men are the buyers and the subjects.

>>514928522 (OP)
Men don’t do this what the fuck are you talking about?

>>514954810
maybe in nature or under a metaphor maybe
but not in reality
the reality is the woman has a cell phone full of men
and she picks which one gets pussy

>>514928522 (OP)
>Muh provider
But they don't select for that shit until their 30s. This is the issue. THye can try and gloss over by saying they need financial support, but how many of their exes were financially stable, good father material? They only look for the lifestyle and career shit after sleeping around, which is a slap in the face. Men would care less if by their own admission their exes weren't all utter trash who she let hit for free, while making it clear you being able to hit is entirely based on your income. Yet shockingly, they don't get why the men don't feel they won.

>>514954917
You don't understand. Women never spend a cent to get laid. Men spend more than a few. It's a sellers' market for women. They can even be picky about who they're selling to.

>>514928522 (OP)
If you care about your kids you wont get a dumb subservwoman. Your kids will be stupid too. Dont do it. I know from experience

>>514955003
you made dumb kids?

>>514954982
Uhm, actually, you're a paedophile if you're not attracted primarily to women in their 30s. You should be pleased and honoured to have an opportunity to provide for her majesty when she finally comes of age in the third decade of her glorious life.

>>514954991
this is a semantic argument, not really useful
its more useful to look at this through the lense of choice

>>514928522 (OP)
>>514928655
Y'know what, actually, she's right. The real party to blame here is the men of the last 3 generations who were fucking stupid enough to think women have the agency to be able to choose appropriately when it should be their fathers.

>>514955055
>third
fourth*
btfo'd myself

>>514955072
>this is a semantic argument, not really useful
It's not at all, lmao. In either case (sellers' or buyers' market), there is an abundance of choice for one side and a lack for the other. The real distinction is the one I've outlined.

>>514928522 (OP)
I blame jew, it is usually culprit

>>514934457
you wouldn't notice good genetics even if you deep-throated them

>>514955285
Not a flaw you have?

>>514955176
women have options men dont
its that simple
my gf showed me her phone
there were probably over 100 men messaging
her between all the different apps
its insane how flooded with options even ugly women are

>>514955502
The sellers in a sellers' market have options, and buyers don't.
Capisce?

>>514955502
so back to the economic analagy
if someone is selling a used car
and gets 500 offers they can be picky

>>514928655
Women never pick jeets even jeet women. Thats the main reason for seethe.
When they say
> women dont like hard working productive poeple that maintain civilization.
They mean women dont like jeet with a fake job that kisses bosses ass and stays 16 hours a day in the office.

>>514955577
Good. Just never refer to women as "buyers" ever again. That's just an insult to every man who has ever dealt with women in any capacity.

>>514955529
no i dont capisce i dont give a fuck everyone is a buyer
and seller

>>514943048
>Do you really want to be with a woman who feels coerced to be with you?
No. I want them to stop getting the taxes I pay, effectively subsidizing their mistreatment of men. I want them to stop being catered to via DEI at the expense of men, not only in jobs but shcolarships. I could go on but women get a ton of benefits over men, and all men ever hear is that not only are men evil, but that women need more and men are bad for not giving more. Like fuck it, if you're going to be an obnoxious cunt lets remove all safety nets and all supports and lets see who gets where entirely on their own without society helping them or hobbling the competition. People would shut up real quickly when they have no fallback. It's actually why you see an uptick in articles complaining about men dating younger, dating foreign or just not dating. The safety net of a guy waiting to marry them now millenials age out, has not materialized.

I for one, will enjoy seeing how strong and independent the women are as this trend continutes, and remember for all the poor choices they made they justified with "you only live once". Which is totally true, one chance at life. No refunds, make the best of it.

>>514955619
men keep throwing resources at them hoping for a whiff
men need to stop that to bring down the artificially high value of pussy

>>514928522 (OP)
guys can be the greatest of friends till a woman gets involved and chooses one of them. Always been like that. That's probably men's main and biggest flaw. Even I'm guilty of it.

>>514955619
I skimmed through, but not because I am disinterested in what you have to say. I just assume I already know it all. My question to you is this: why are you still wagecuck debtmaxxing? You know men do this for women, right? I'm living with my parents and haven't worked more than 6 months in my entire life at 27 years old. What's stopping you from withholding your labour from the system?

>>514955373
nope because I don't suck cocks like you

>>514955894
Hon hon hon! Touche!

>>514955610
so we agree that women have options and can “buy” whom they
want, problem is they have too many options
this generally leads to no choice being made
but in any case, her value is raised because
of the number of men willing to sell themselves to her
this problem wont go away because men are basically
sexual scabs or mating opportunists

>>514956073
the same problem
with globalization of the labor market
glut of labour supply made individual labour worthless
and so workers have zero leverage
same thing happened with men and women
its not an ethical issue its just economics

>>514941891
I used to think this was sexist.
It's still sexist, but it's also painfully accurate. I can count on one hand every woman I've ever met whose decision-making was driven by reason. I wanted to marry one of them, and another was a professor.

>>514928522 (OP)
>Women don't pick short men
>Say they don't because le society blames them for having short children
>Why is having short children bad
>because women exclude them as potential partners
>Why do they exclude them?
>Because le society [...]
Ad infinitum. There is a lot going wrong with society, but this is just a cheap excuse. Just own your superficiality.
Another point of note: If the woman herself is tall, then you usually wouldn't end up with short children. Thee traits tend to even out. In other words, they are short themselves which means they only exist, because their mother gave a non-tall man a chance. A chance which they dont want to give. Again, if they were just stating that it's their personal preference, it would be bleak for short men, but honest. Their defense reeks of hypocrisy though.

>>514928655
Lots of people on the red pill aren't blessed with a genetic setup that is commonly considered desirable. Average at best, so why would they make this argument?
The problem is that People like in OPs posts image are claiming societal expectations and genetics as their motivation to uphold their preferences. The rational choice would be to breed within the wide spectrum around the mean value for each given genetic feature, because you will most likely end up with average offspring this way. The average genetics aren't so bad and society wouldn't condemn them. The only ones condemning average people are, again, those who want to pick only the top .01% of potential mates. Cherry on top is when they 'settle' for someone who not only doesn't fit their personal eugenics standards, but exhibits traits that are way below average in desirability, like tendency for psychological disorders or congenital diseases.

>>514956073
>so we agree that women have options and can “buy” whom they
No. Stop even replying to me you stubborn ZOG mutt. You made a huge philosophical mistake and won't own up to it. Not my problem.

>>514956237
its semantics you buffoon words are very fluid

>>514928655
Even if we accept your retarded naturalistic fallacy tradcuck babble as true (it isn't) it doesn't matter because at the end of the day for society to function it needs most men willing to contribute and they have no reason to contribute without a family. If you really think we should act like chimps because it's natural, look forward to naturally living in a hollowed out tree eating grubs

>>514956304
Go "buy" a bag of dicks to fuck yourself with ya faggit.

>>514928522 (OP)
Stacy/10 picks Chad - looksmatch & good choice
Hambeast wants Chad but can't have him. Instead, has mutt baby with ghetto nigger who leaves her, if she's lucky, or kills her if society is lucky.

There's no hypocrisy or catch 22. High tier women deserve high tier men. Even Chud Primes understsnd that they have no business expecting success with the top 10% of women.
Delusional women who ruin there lives because they couldn't date 5 levels up, deserve all they get.

>>514928522 (OP)
yeah, let's debate this on here like it matters at all

who cares what some ugly leddit roastie is complaining aboug

>>514956408
how about i sell you a “fuck off faggot” buffoon

>>514956473
This is the soul of the interwebs. Whatever happens here will ultimately matter across the globe.

>>514956408
oh whoops i forgot you dont have a job
ill ask your parents

>>514956985
I probably save more money than the average wagecuck. I only have to look at my bro to see an example. He's the one asking for money if anything. I just get it without asking. Dad knows I'm too good for work and hands me my due every month.

>>514957108
so, you are basically a woman
economically speaking

>>514957203
I guess you could say so. That's not a bad thing. You men (economically speaking) need to get your shit together. Women got you by the balls.

>>514957272
right, you could call it a buyer’s market for women
but scab men sell themselves for free to anything, so…
back to my original point, the women are doing nothing
wrong, just responding to incentives

>>514957351
Fuck you! Didn't read.

>>514930200
5'7 is the ideal healthy male height though.

>>514957412
Whichever height keeps you single and unmarried is the healthiest one.

>>514928655
You slip up.
It's not that "women" should pick the best men.
It's that the best women should pick the best men.
Why should undesirable ugly women have access to the best men?
Unless, in a harem of course.

>>514928655
No one has a problem with women picking the best men. The problem is that women do not do this. They left to their own devices will have sex with tall retards and then let the taxpayer and DEI jobs pay for the offspring. This is why sane civilisations have parents choose partners for their daughters. So there is a balance between genetics and other factors important for familial continuation.

>>514928522 (OP)
>the options for women are:
>chad millionaire
>black and poor absent father
how could men do this to them?

>>514957564
Also a good point. In an unnatural environment (ie violence is legally banned), no meaningful natural selection can occur. Male violence is a tool to penalize poor female mate selection, or to establish dominance and prove superiority.
Women understand that violence is a reflection of strength (and by proxy, hormonal balance and health) and are inherently drawn to it. The problem is that in today's world, those who are openly violent are usually also incredibly retarded. Those who are subtly violent end up being CEOs, or something.

>>514957564

Yeah that's the infuriating part
>women make poor choices
>the government bails them out
>men who had nothing to do with it get blamed and forced to pay

>>514928522 (OP)
R*ddit lol

>>514957843
The government currently exists to subsidize female retardation.
Female empowerment is the holy grail of the liberal order.
Women are perfect for capitalism. They consume significantly more (80% of ads targeted towards women for a reason), their consumption choices are easily influencable by trends and status much more than men, (labubus), they're way more susceptible to celebrity culture, and their morality is entirely informed by what the masses deem good. Female metaphysics start and end with "does this make me feel good or bad."
This is very fertile soil for capitalism and profiteering.
Much more than a healthy, strong, able-bodied population of young men could ever be.

>>514928522 (OP)
poor women :(

>>514958180
best post

Too few mentions of jews and jewish mind kontrol ITT

>>514928880
>if I breed with a womanlet, there go MY genes.
no, if she has a tall dad or tall brothers she has the tall gene even if shes short. if all her family is short then yes.

>>514928522 (OP)
Men and women need each other. When people got married at 16 you built each other up as you matured. It absolutely was at least partially a woman's fault if a man did not reach his full potential. Vice versa if a man did not help cultivate his wife to raise children with proper morals. The husband worked all day and he trusted the wife to teach the children proper values in his absence. We evolved to co-exist with the other sex, starting at a young age, generally as a monogamous pair.

>>514928655
It’s exactly the same mentality when people complain about a weapon/character in a game being too strong. They just don’t like when they are the ones losing. That’s all. There is no deeper substantive truth they are pointing to. They just want to tilt the board to benefit themselves.

>>514928522 (OP)
Total Kike Death Heals the World, kike

>>514945032
missed that at the very last second

>>514958860
that nuclear family idyllic never happened, anon. it was purely marketing.
throughout 99.9% of civilization, children underwent communal rearing, as parents had help from neighbors, grandparents and extended family, schools, churches, clubs and activities.
notice how all of those institutions are pretty much dead now.

>>514928522 (OP)
Because males have been pampered for thousands of years and now that women don't have to marry to fucking survive, they immediately fall apart. Women weren't allowed to have their own bank account. They weren't allowed to do basically anything. Now that they can compete, males just fall apart because they are so fucking pampered by society and history that even the slighest competition is this world ending catastrophe. The entire medical field in Japan discriminated against women even though they got better scores.

MUH MALEEEEE LOGICAL SEX!!!11122322

Males are not the logical sex. If women compete, it is seen as not womanly or some other stupid archaeic shit. Males cannot compete as they think they can. They just fall apart and live alone in apartments, cry about unfairness and then kill themselves.

>>514928522 (OP)
There's men between the 0.0001% six foot six pack six figure trust funder meme and the ugly drug addled criminal.

>>514961450
its rigged in women favour not a competition
remove female entitlements and benefits
and men make them look foolish by comparison

>>514957958
>Much more than a healthy, strong, able-bodied population of young men could ever be.
They're literally less valuable to society now because machines can do there job better

>>514942567
tits or GTFO

>>514928522 (OP)
Oh look another spammed demoralization, hate women thread on /pol/

>>514961814
Machines can't consume products, retard.

Hate women, simple as.

>>514964010
I meant that machines could do the job of healthy strong men better and since women are better consumers than men that just means men are basically in the way

>>514939857

This. You are increasingly seeing white girls dating short, small dick’d ugly brownoids in America and probably Europe. (Not jeets, before a jeet gets his hope up. But mexicans, arabs, pacific islanders etc)

And ugly, dumb & poor chimp niggers of course.

They would almost never accept an ugly or short or fat White guy. They’ve simply been brainwashed to hate White men.

And I doubt it’s because white guys aren’t approaching women anymore in general and only shitskins are still approaching women. All cuntoids can just go on tinder or hinge and find a Chad within a few minutes.

They fucking ACTIVELY select these dysgenic shitskins and subhuman niggers over White men.

All these stupid fucking bitches have to do, is be a DECENT wife and mother. If they do that, any man they are with that isn't already given to vice, will also be a decent man.

If "women" were a corporation or institution, they would be getting firebombed on the daily, purely because of how retarded, opinionated and thus insufferable they are.

>>514928522 (OP)
It's only a catch-22 if you care what society thinks.
Which all women do.
So it is your fault.