Thread 514930630

>dude gets deported to his home country
>sent back to US
>then deported to africa
the fucking labor hours involved in all this must be insane. trump will be lucky if he can deport all the violent criminal illegals by the time his term is up.

>>514930630 (OP)
you're right, they should have just killed him.

>>514930630 (OP)
To show that youre not going to spot the difference fact check into open borders faget

>>514930630 (OP)
If I had to guess it's some form of advanced diesel therapy they use to break prisoners.

>>514930630 (OP)
The price of justice has no cost.

>>514930937
>We're just looking for a better life
Funny how affordable health care in your country, and affordable housing is not enough then.

>>514930937
Pedo

>>514930937
>they just looking for a better life and sheet
i know you're not making this argument but it's disgusting. there's a MAJOR difference between coming to the US 200 years ago and now when the US is a superpower.

>>514930630 (OP)
apparently he complained he would be tortured in 22 other countries, so now he gets niggerville as a last resort.
have fun, brego-brego faggot

>good golf
let's not pretend the bulls jersey wasn't seen

>>514930630 (OP)
The point was exactly that - to make a point.
The liberals fought to keep him in the USA, and bring him back after being deported, to make conservatives seem ineffectual.
The conservatives instead double-downed and sent his ass to an even worse place
Next the liberals will do what they always do when they fail- move on to the next thing, and memory hole him into non-existence.
In the end it sends a strong message to illegals to either self deport, or risk being sent to Africa
And let’s be honest - you really didn’t care for any actual answers, did you anon

>>514930630 (OP)
Illegal child rapist retard exhausted all his appeals and turned down 15 countries saying he feared for his life due to Latin American countries targeted him through gang violence (that he supposedly wasn't apart of btw) only to paint himself into a corner and get deported to Africa.

If it was me I would just save the money and execute his fat burrito loving ass out back but hey each to their own.

>>514930937
You're committing a heckin genocide!

>>514930630 (OP)
This is all just Public relations for the dumb conservatives. Deporting all the illegals achieves nothing when you allow millions of "legals" into your country every year. Get rid of 100,000 Hispanics but import 1,000,000 Indians. Sure, that makes sense.

>>514931058
It would be if the illegals weren't allowed to rape our government welfare system and economy for 4 years. Alex Jones showed video of them in early 2021 getting off buses by the boatload getting manilla envelopes filled with cash, food stamps, and vouchers. Fuck latinos.

HE WAS JUST A MARYLAND MAN!

>>514931595
We're not importing Indians. You and Canada are. Also Trump is about to cut Indians in tech jobs because India wants to cozy up with Russia.

>>514930630 (OP)
I was entertained.
> gets sent to a hell prison where he speaks the language
> battered spouse rees about it to her congressman
> bring him back
> he really is a human trafficker and gangbanger
> send him to an EVEN WORSE hell prison in Africa
Pottery.

>>514930630 (OP)
Why not deport him to Canada or something?

>>514930937
Nothing in your life is made worse because of immigrants

>>514931892
Murderraping 11 year old children seems pretty bad to me.

>>514930630 (OP)
Still not deported btw.

>>514931416
>The conservatives instead double-downed and sent his ass to an even worse place
Didn't happen. He's still here.

>>514930630 (OP)
>having law and order is too expensive, fuck it just let everyone do whatever

>>514930630 (OP)
don't come to US illegally if you don't want to end up some place even worse
Simple as

>>514930630 (OP)
All they have to do is send a few thousand to the congo and make sure every illegal in the states and every potential illegal outside of the states knows about it.

>>514931892
>wages suppressed
>housing prices gouged

>>514931982
That's not your life but even then, most immigrants aren't like that

>>514932325
Not immigrants fault

The Plan™ is to reduce the population of shitlibs to as low a level as possible.
Aspico Gabspico was an implement in that plan.

>>514932446
Most immigrants are like that. At the very least they are entitled, loud, rude, play shitty music, refuse to learn your language and stare at you like they are retarded. At least the Latinos.

>>514932926
Did your gf dump you for a Latino chad anon? Be honest

>>514931752
Why not execute him or something?

>>514930630 (OP)
Because it's funny

trump looked stupid on camera by misremembering his tattoos that were used as justification for his accidental deportation. So now because the orange boys ego is hurt he's being put through the wringer and no political leniency or personal good will is gonna save him as long as Donald has his way.

>>514931892
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. And you are definitely brown or black

>>514930630 (OP)
Due process

>>514930630 (OP)
Uganda is huge.

>>514934397
This is the correct answer. You can't be big on "law and order" if you break the law because you find the rules annoying when dealing with criminals.

>>514930630 (OP)
Yeah, but any retard with an IQ of 78 will hear 'retard gangster fought going home and got sent to niggerland for his trouble' and think 'maybe going home isn't so bad.'

That's the win. Garcia going to Uganda will inspire millions to just go home.

>>514930630 (OP)
lets televise his adventures.

>>514930630 (OP)
Hodie illos, cras tu.

> Wake up the next day in a place where everyone speaks gibberish and you're basically just waiting for a literal urban cannibal to come and butcher you for a BBQ over an oil barrel.
Thinking about this guy makes me fucking laugh, like holy shit.

>>514932446
>Not immigrants fault
Its the effect of immigrants. Although to be honest, its the effect of population growth in general. If there were no immigrants but women were pushing out 4 kids each, there would also be a strain on housing and labor. Likely not as hard because local people can be better at negotiating, while immigrants can be taken advantage of (being paid less, working more hours in worse conditions, accept expensive housing of terrible quality) so the effects on wages and housing are worse with immigrants.
This is to say nothing about the cultural or social aspects, which is also important.
A kid being born in a country will go through the education system and an informal education of growing up and knowing the customs and culture. An uneducated immigrant would have the effect of a local citizen that was never in school and also never left his room. Unskilled and also knows nothing about how to behave in society. Like a 30 year old baby.
This is why in Dubai they hold the migrant laborers in camps, and only bus them to jobsites and back to the camp.

>>514931892
Traffic
And my view
Checkmate nigger

>>514934908
>Where in the world is Abrego Garcia?

>>514935209
Doesn't have the same ring as Carmen Sandiego

Its clickbait. Very surprising from such a strict news network.

>>514934353
Who cares, he had a weed leaf tattoo on his hand. The meaning of it doesnt even matter. To africa you go.

>>514935261
It definitely isn't San Diego. Might be Diego Garcia...

>>514931892
Having illegal Mexicans without insurance or driver's license try to fleece me and sue me on a bullshit of accident it's a pretty good reason.
How about the simple fact of I don't like hearing massively pregnant fat Mexican women effectively yell at their phone in Spanish while in the line at the grocery store.
How about all the general filth and litter ?
I swear you beaners are just diet niggers

>>514933054
No self respecting white woman would date a Latino. Let's be real. It's not different than white women who date niggers. The smart ones who are not completely mentally ill don't want to be involved with people whose skin looks like they are covered in mud, smell like shit, and talk so loud you would think they are def. Also their music fucking sucks. No one wants to put up with that.

>>514935209
In the pot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEwkFhB_Qo

>>514931982
>Murderraping 11 year old children seems pretty bad to me.
So, why don't we abort every male before birth as well? That would reduce the rate of rape.

>>514930630 (OP)
His lawyers are retarded and put him through a losing battle, specially when he's got a deportation order as an illegal immigrant. He already got offered deportation to Costa Rica as a freeman, but his lawyers told him not to take it to stick it to Drumpf. Now he's being deported to Uganda as a prisoner. What a shitshow. There was no winning this from the get-go. Democrats just wanna create a narrative for political points but it backfired.

>>514930685
this

>>514935745
The supreme court said they couldn't deport him.

>>514930630 (OP)
you're starting to understand that the left wants nothing more than to destroy white progress. Wasting taxpayer dollars is their favorite.

>>514931892
Tell that to the 16 years old girl an iraqi migrant pushed in front of a train a few days ago...

what's funny about it is he wanted to kill a german girl as revenge for getting denied asylum but we have so many migrants here, he picked a ukrainian migrant to kill

>>514935913
no they didn't lmao

>>514930630 (OP)
The solution is to just rent prison-space in places El Salvador or Uganda, and after sentencing send them directly there to serve their time.

>>514935055
giving him a taste of his own medicine in really the only way possible

>>514935704
I think we just want the non americans out

>>514935745
>Democrats just wanna create a narrative for political points but it backfired.

No, actually this was by design. Democrats are happy with this because they can say Trump will send migrants to an African gulag. Meanwhile it was his lawyers (paid for my Democrats) who petitioned against deportation to every country in latin america that would take him, knowing that African countries were the next stop. They used this guy to make him their next Jorge Floyd.

If only he took his lumps and accepted deportation to somewhere like Panama or Paraguay, he could literally have walked back to the USA when a Democrat returns to office. Now how the fuck is he going to even get out of Africa?

>>514931209
I am low-key convincing bosses to keep on bringing Colombians like me to work exactly for minimum wage on tech jobs. Lmao. I even convinced my Boss that the lost produtivity caused by 6 Goymans taking 50 days vacation is basically an entire year lost of productivity. So, naturally we are in the process of firing those 6 Goymans and bringing Colombians.
You lazy, vacation-abusing, bike-riding, pickle-chuggin, cash-obsessin, sick-day-takin, 38-hours "workin", trash-separatin,
Car-disparagin, döner-eatin, faggots

>>514930630 (OP)
>so what was the point of all of this?
To show the public how much Democrats are willing to fight to keep violent criminal illegals in the country. To show just how deep and wide the corruption really is.

To steel the public's resolve for what comes next.

>>514936476
Nice. Another company going down the drain. Well done, accelerator-anon.

>>514930630 (OP)
democrats wanted to grandstand with an ms13 fag
so now he's 5000 miles away, thanks

>>514930630 (OP)
Serious question, How long until Canada gives him asylum to make Trump look bad?
>>514936069
Thats what we should have been doing all along.

>>514936476
>vacation-abusing

>>514936369
>They used this guy to make him their next Jorge Floyd.
the problem is, nobody cares if he lives or dies
because he's not american
they have to break down that programming first, and that point, they won't be involved in politics because they'll have no attachment to the home nation whatsoever

>>514936476
Colombia is becoming a heavy outsourcing center for companies that don't want to deal with Indians or the time zone difference. Other countries in latin america are getting in on this game too.

>>514936798
>the problem is, nobody cares if he lives or dies

40% of the population does. I know a few liberals who are furious over this stuff because they are brainwashed.

>>514930630 (OP)

refugee claimant laws in the us are stupid, same as the ones in leaf country. shitskins can use loopholes to legally "be scared" to be ANYWHERE in the world, but the target country (US or CAN)

U whites suck at making laws to protect your people ffs. Everyone here is aware of that and use it to "go north". Ive never done shit cuz I do love my country, come rain or shine.

>>514936649
Yes, the amount of vacations these faggots take is insane

>>514930692
this
/thread

no lawyer, meeting on 4chan guys, army army, army.

>>514936798
if you don't get it: it's a self-defeating philosophy that's kind of counter-intuitive
when you make your citizenry "global citizens" they stop caring about local issues and stop being involved in them
democrats will have 65% of the country registered
and maybe 50% of those will actually vote
like an anti-logarithmic

>>514937012
you're confused
western governments go out of their way to subject their citizens to malice
there's no noblesse oblige, just pure disdain

>>514930630 (OP)
Correct. They're sending people from El Salvador to Africa or whatever because 10 years from now the usa is gonna make every single deported person a millionaire and saint like George Floyd. Then your kids and grandkids will be taught in school for 200 years about the racist deportation camps.

>>514930630 (OP)
>what was the point
To stomp faggot activists judges in the nuts and set precedence so they can't do it again..

>>514930630 (OP)
It shows we need reform from Congress. The problem is judges can stop deportations on "humanitarian" grounds. Remove their ability to do that.

Or Trump could grow a fucking spine and just ignore these teethless judges. Too bad he's a bitch

next step of the kalergi plan

>>514937339

This is another thing I just dont get. Its like the US voter is completely powerless and their vote means nothing, no matter what they vote for.

Wheres the democracy in this? In el salvador we voted a noone into power (Bukele) who had no party and just did a facebook post, asking for votes to take back the country from (((them)))

>>514931705
>about to
KEK
Fell for it again

>>514937429
it'll just be babel again though
do these retards not learn?

>>514937339
>>514937444

In el salvador we had a 2 party system, both of which worked together and it was just different flavoring of the same shit. So we voted 3rd party. and here we are. Bukele has gotten back our country from the shithole it was, into a shithole in recovery that it is now, also low key redpill against jews.

The people being deported are violent criminals why aren't we seeing more of them killing feds?

>>514931125
You have to go back

>>514930630 (OP)
Trump’s hired lizardmen are trying to make an example of him to show how DHS operates with total impunity. Which isn’t true, yet, but that’s the impression they want to give.

>>514930630 (OP)
I notice you post one of the rare whitish ones. I can only think that this is because you think a race-based deportation policy would be better.

>>514935704
why don't we just murder rape everyone so it becomes more normal and accepted?

>>514937543
because feds are rolling deep on them
have you seen a single one of these arrests where it's 2?
no
it's always a dirty dozen

>>514937655
Just wait a few years

>>514931892
Indians are taking over the tech space where I work. And they are almost universally bad at their jobs. But, nepotism and cheap contractors (thanks Elon) make it difficult to move up when there's a wall of indians. Seriously considering a career change, at 45. My work life, and regular life by extension, would be made better if they were all deported. I'm also a Democrat, and have never styled myself as racist, but God damn....

>>514937658
Good thing people in violent gangs are famous for not hanging out with other violent people who could help them

they said they were going to charge him for human trafficking and he would spend the rest of his life in jail.
But then when he didn't want to plead guilty, now they want to deport him.
Weird. How come they changed their plans so fast?

>>514931577
Checked. Remember when people got called racist and now no one cares about being called racist? Guess what happens when people say we are genociding them?

>>514937803
that's a 2 year trial

>>514937856
so ? did the justice system change in the last 6 months in a way that this wasn't already the case when they made those statements?

>>514937757

Welcome to the club, being racist isnt bad, its a protective measure against a hostile tribe.

Every single thing I can work in has been invaded by low tier indian workers. They suck, they dont even understand basic shit but theyre cheap. And companies love cheap.

>>514930630 (OP)
So others self deport. Nobody wants to end up in Africa or Alligator Alcatraz.

>>514934908
This anons tism is dead on
Like cops but for the autistic dark humor demographic

>>514937757
I'm not going to try and convert you or anything, just going to give you my two cents.
The reason people become "racist" isn't out of a sense of hate, it's out of a sense of logic.
>"I am objectively being harmed by the influx of these people."
Forget that they're brown, forget about Indians, or blacks, or Jews, or anything.
Your life is being made worse.
Period.
What more is there to say? Personally, I wouldn't even call that racism. Democrats call it "racism" to scare you away from talking about it, but in reality what's happening is that there's a corporatist system of exploitation that favors replacing you with third-worlders.
You would ask for a living wage and self-respect, but Indians don't. So, they replace you with Indians. It's not about racism, it's about what's economically expedient for the system of exploitation.
Democrats take the same kinds of bribes Republicans do, it's just that Democrats make "moral" arguments about how you're a white piece of shit and you can't complain about having your life ruined or you're an evil racist.
Frankly, what is racism? The idea that some people are fundamentally better or worse depending on their race. Are you a racist because you don't want your wages suppressed by an influx of borderline slave labor from the third world?
Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, voting Democrat is obviously not in your logical best interests, because they want to ruin your life on behalf of their corporate donors who are better off suppressing your pay and phasing out your livelihood, and then call you an evil piece of shit for complaining about it.
At some point, it's pure self preservation. I don't think I'm genuinely racist either, but they're going to call me that no matter what just because I don't like how the American workforce is being actively replaced by serfs from abroad.
At some point, I just don't fucking care what they say. They're betraying me and making my life harder purely for the benefit of the rich. Fuck 'em.

>>514938555

Exactly. 100% correct.

>>514936476
i'm sure you're ''convincing'' anyone you brown faggot

>>514936631
HE'S A MARYLAND DAD!!

>>514937083
Aren't vacations mandatory under law? Isn't it an abuse of labor law to try to restrict people from taking their vacations?

>>514931742
>gets sent to a hell prison
CECOT looked comfy as fuck. Hell Kilmar got visits from senators where he had drinks.

>>514937395
They're setting up a new Japanese internment camp national shame. All these deportees will be granted millions of dollars.

>>514934353
His deportation was not accidental.

>>514931577
You know, I'm kinda starting to wonder what will happen to these people if the right becomes even more powerful. So far the sentiment is to deport illegals and reduce immigration. But what happens to the people who oppressed the right for years, imported millions and lived out their power fantasy of censorship? I don't see how people will just go back to normal as if nothing had happened. They've shown that they are more than willing to just sacrifice their own nation to virtue signal. They are parasites and their destructive impulses are dangerous.

>>514931058
We can't have affordable healthcare because we're too busy burning money on illegals

>>514939522
What's there to wonder about? The "TDS" guys were totally right the whole time -- Trump is a fascist with no morals or compunctions. As his best friend, Jeffrey Epstein said, he's capable of literally anything. There's no mystery at the heart of this. There's no great unveiling. It's just fascism. If the right gets more powerful, it'll do more fascism with more impunity. We've seen this story before and it should surprise no one, least of all you.

>>514939676
>Trump is a fascist
Holy shit you're so fucking boring

>>514939676
Define fascism.

>>514939713
Glad you asked.
>intense nationalism; often a cult of personality surrounding a strongman
Check.
>intermarriage of business and government; state capitalism
Check.
>a politics of enmity where the strongman leverages external and internal bogeymen to keep the base excited and unthinking
Check.
>authoritarianism, centralized power, erosion of prior norms
Check.

>>514930630 (OP)
>get sent back to your home country
>i can't go there i'll be persecuted
>okay we'll send you to this other country
>i can't go there i'll be persecuted
>okay we'll send you to this other country
>i can't go there i'll be persecuted
>okay we'll send you to this other country
>i can't go there i'll be persecuted
>repeat 20+ times
>end up getting sent to africa
eat shit lmao

>>514939608
source ? I can't find it

I found this and it's very different
>Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for A New Competitive Awards Process
https://www.dhs.gov/archive/news/2024/04/12/department-homeland-security-announces-300-million-direct-funding-communities

>Study says undocumented immigrants paid almost $100 billion in taxes. A new study shows that undocumented immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
federal, state, and local tax revenue in 2022. The findings run counter to anti-immigrant rhetoric that immigrants who inter the U.S. illegally hurt social programs.
>A new study shows that undocumented immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in federal, state and local tax revenue in 2022 while many are shut out of the programs their taxes fund. The findings run counter to anti-immigrant rhetoric that undocumented immigrants are “destroying” social programs. In 40 states, undocumented immigrants paid higher tax rates than the top 1% of the income scale in those states, according to a study released Tuesday from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a left-leaning, nonprofit think tank.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD003.pdf

>>514939859
God i wish Trump was doing literally 1/100th of the things you say he does.

>>514930630 (OP)
The Democrats fought tooth and nail to keep this evil asshole in the country and they failed.

>>514939998
>Study says
Not worth reading.
"Study says" I throw it in the trash.

>>514940073
thanks for your valuable contribution. could you also share your views about the twitter screencaps I was referring to ?

>>514940133
>could you also share your views about the twitter screencaps
They go in the trash too.
In fact, Twitter goes in the trash itself.

>>514931125
kill yourself jew
iran will blow up the mossad head quarters again
hope they succeed in killing you that time

>>514940002
I can back up literally each and every clause and subclause. Which one world you like me to explain for you?

>>514930630 (OP)
>>then deported to africa
lmao. that's the funniest part. he fought to come back only to get deported to fucking africa lol

>>514940205
Please explain to me how enforcing the law is fascism.
Also,
>Which one world you like

>>514940236
Trump isn't just "enforcing the law," though, is he? He's trying to legislate by executive fiat. He's ignored roughly one full third of court judgments with respect to immigration and deportations, and he's potentially shielding people in the Epstein files from legal consequences -- well within the statute of limitations for some of these theoretical crimes -- while claiming to be the "law and order" president. This is a presidency of spectacle over results, because, despite it all, the actual deportation figures are still below those of Obama.

I'll ask you a question in response: how is ignoring court orders, especially with respect to universal human rights under which the case law is unambiguous, enforcing the law? At what point does "enforcing" the law become creating the law by executive fiat?

>>514930630 (OP)
You're ignoring all the fuckery by leftists, legacy media and other traitors who did their best to get him to stay.

You should expect some back and forth, as they argued every single little thing and tried to delay and oveturn things. If he'd gotten to stay in the US it would've sent a clear message: if you came from South America illegally, if you have gangbanger tattoos, if you don't bother to show up to court for your traffic violations, it's okay bro, you can stay! So anyone who just entered illegally (to pick fruit or whatever) will immediately feel more secure, because if a guy like Garcia can stay then why can't they?

What matters is the end result, deporting him to some African shithole after all the political football and meddling is a win at the end of the day. Ultimately we need to stop caring about whether they get deported to their home country or not, if their home country refuses to take them back; then just get rid of them by other means. And if Africa will take them, then dump them there.

People are missing the wider picture, they come to places like the US because they don't believe the law is being enforced, that they can just say fuck the process. These are the last people you want in your country. You have to deter them by rounding them up, collecting information like their picture, fingerprints and then getting rid of them (preferably thousands of miles away to send a message that this is what happens when you decide you don't care about the law).

>>514940692
>He's ignored roughly one full third of court judgments with respect to immigration and deportations
No he hasn't. Stopped reading there.

>>514940725
>https://web.archive.org/web/20250724041342/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/21/trump-court-orders-defy-noncompliance-marshals-judges/
Yes, he has.

>>514940892
Good, fuck judges. Most of them should be hanging from poles.

>>514940912
Would you agree that Trump is enacting fascist policies? I'm not making a value judgment here, just establishing that fascism absolutely is the frog we're boiling.

>>514940892
There is no evidence. You should kill yourself for even linking WaPo.
List what orders Trump has ignored. And the rest that he has not.

>>514940954
If trump were anywhere near fascist he'd be enacting TND already. He's more like a traditional conservative. Fascism is inherently a centrist position despite left wing efforts to repaint as right wing. If trump were fascist, he'd be pushing for universal healthcare, removal of Niggers from the country and it'd already be illegal to criticize him. You have no fucking clue what "fascist" is in your sheltered, coddled worldview if you think trump is anywhere near that level.

>>514941005
All 337 of them? This is not a serious question -- it's an attempt to make the conversation so odious to prosecute that people stop interacting with you. It is an unreasonable request.

>>514941169
So what you are saying is you didn't do any research you just took the word of WaPo.
Yeah you need to kill yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>514941111
Nah, fascism is fairly well-understood at this point. The racial animus is more circumstantial than anything implicit. There is nothing special about Jews or blacks or Mexicans -- they're targets of convenience and opportunity. All the structure requires is a dehumanized Other.

>>514941237
>fascism is fairly well-understood at this point
Not by you leftards.

>>514940954
>>514941111
And by the way, prioritizing your own countries citizens and maintaining strict immigration controls is not "fascism". It's something every first world country does. If you try to move to Australia for instance, you'll find out that you can't unless you are rich or have in demand technical skills. If you try to move there illegally, you'll be quickly removed. Yet there's no media screeching about how Australia is fascist for doing so.

Give me one single reason why the US is responsible for all the worlds thirdy migrants and not other countries, and why we aren't allowed to remove them like other countries do?

>>514941111
I don't even think you believe the bullshit you're saying. the vast majority of fascist regimes don't have universal healthcare, nor do they deport other races because they usually like to have access to cheap labour / slaves. Please list the fascist countries that fit your unique definition.

why is it impossible to argue about simple objective things with you people

>>514930937
immigrants will evade capture too. Everyone's fighting for what they want.

>>514930685
>>514935870

dudes say stuff like this then cry about how the libs portray them as over the top villains

>>514941313
The literal poster child for fascism, Nazi Germany, was deporting other races.

>>514941227
Yes. WaPo is a reasonably trustworthy publication. When it says that it did the analysis of 337 cases and found that of the ones where the courts ruled against trump, he ignored, frustrated, or confounded 35% of them... I've got no reason to disbelieve them. What reason do they have to lie? You realize that reporters and a sequence of editors have to sign off on everything they publish, right?

I can understand why you feel the need to try to delegitimize all institutions (it's kind of the basis of everything you believe, no?) but if we care about correctness, it's reasonable to place SOME trust in institutions. We shouldn't believe them simply because they are institutions, but there's also little evidence suggesting that we should DISBELIEVE them... simply because they're institutions. Does that make sense.

>>514940692
>He's ignored roughly one full third of court judgments
And how many of those judges are actually foreign born, and thus have a clear conflict of interest regarding something like immigration, do you even know? Of course not.

If only you cared as much about the rights of your own countrymen as much as these illegal non-citizens, that would be something wouldn't it? Living in a place like America is a privilege. Immigrants are guests in their country. People who commit a crime and enter the country illegally are criminals and unwelcome guests that have to go.

>>514941361
>WaPo is a reasonably trustworthy publication

>>514939676
I wish Trump was even a third of the fascist you braindead idiots claim he is.

>>514941393
Oh, I see. You're more of an amateur political operative than you are interacting in good faith, yeah?

>>514941431
No you are just a shill.
Or an idiot.
Or both.
You see no reason to disbelieve them?
Given the track record of every major news site lying for the past 10 years?

>>514930630 (OP)
No, he fucked around, let a bunch of democrat sycophants with no skin in the game lead him up a hill not knowing they were gonna leave him to die on it. The silver lining is that Trump made a pretty good example of him. Sends a message to all the shitskin economic opportunists and criminals that this will be the ultimate outcome.

>>514941382
>And how many of those judges are actually foreign born, and thus have a clear conflict of interest regarding something like immigration
This isn't a conflict of interest because you have to be a citizen to be a judge. There are no judges here on a green card or some other form of temporary protected status. They are all permanent citizens, native born or naturalized -- full stop.

>>514941313
The fact that you think there is a long list of fascist countries demonstrates on it's own that you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. You even imply that fascist states still exist, which they don't. Some dictatorship shithole in africa isn't "fascist".

>>514941325
Well, yeah, no one is expecting 100%. If you deported even just a quarter of all the illegal immigrants in this country, it'd be a hell of an improvement.

>>514939389
Yea people are going to tolerate giving millions to non-citizens that are felons by virtue of being here receiving millions of dollars forever.

>>514941350
yes, nazi germany wanted to exterminate a lot of people as part of their and killed millions of white europeans, are those also parts of the definition of fascism?


>>514941513
fine, give us your full definition of fascism Mr. scholar

>>514941361
>it's reasonable to place SOME trust in institutions
No it's not. Trust has to be earned. The WaPo is owned by Jeff Bezos, you know, the guy who loves diversity (aka less white men) in his warehouses because that prevents them from forming unions and demanding better wages/conditions. His anti-union activities (including paying companies to spy on people) is well documented.

Such a person has a clear conflict of interest regarding something like immigration, because guess what, letting in hundreds of thousands of people in increases the labour supply (and thus keeps wages down).

>>514941471
>Given the track record of every major news site lying for the past 10 years?
Do you see how this is circular logic? You distrust them because they lie, and they lie because they've been lying for the past 10 years.

The sad part here is that I agree with you to some extent: the reason why there exists such a backlash to the traditional institutions is because, to some extent, they've given us reason to mistrust them. They've been politically motivated and they've absolutely gotten some things wrong. They've opened the door to the new epistemic rift by virtue of fucking up. Where we differ is that you seem to take this as evidence that everything the traditional media says is 100% incorrect and that we should therefore believe nothing (except, I'm assuming, what DJT says or what people say on Twitter and 4chan). I disagree. I think DJT has a demonstrably worse track record with the truth than the old institutions do, at the very least to the point where they aren't fully illegitimate.

>>514941599
>nazi germany wanted to exterminate

>>514931892
I live in socal, please kill yourself

>>514941636
I'm not reading all that shit.
I don't trust news sites. If you do you are a sheep.
Do your own research.

>>514931892
X

>>514941602
Maybe they got it wrong and it's 50 cases instead of 55. I find it exceptionally difficult (absent evidence) that Trump has ignored zero or five cases. I can personally remember too many instances where he has violated civil rights or ignored the courts.

>>514941709
>I can personally remember too many instances where he has violated civil rights or ignored the courts
List them.

>>514941700
>Do your own research.
The problem here is that I don't think you have done your own research -- and that pulling 337 court cases to analyze is something only a journalist has the time and incentive to do. It's not something academia does because there's no money in it and it's not something you or I can do because, well, for you... you probably hold some affinity for DJT and I'm (at least) not a lawyer.

That's not what's at issue here, though, is it?

>>514930685
Asylum is gay af and should not exist. If you can’t be deported for some reason, you need to go to a labor camp.

>>514931752

You really can't send him to Canada since the pajeets are shitting in the lakes and beaches and taking all the jobs while making rent or owning a house expensive.

Why can't we just send all the spics and niggers to Europe? They should welcome them with open arms since trying to enforce your countries borders and immigration policies is now "fascist".

>>514934487
>>514934397
He had a deportation order and was granted a temporary asylum due to his association with, wait for it, a group that was being violently supressed by the San Salvadorian government.
Can you guess which group?
He has a human trafficking charge in Tennessee and he was already subject to a TRO by his fuck meat for beating on her, for which he was arrested
All these violate his asylum claims
Meaning he has had OODLES of due process you stupid fucking niggers

>>514941641
>responding with reaction pics instead of argument
you're not fooling anyone over 18 with that type of behavior, go back to /b/ it's more at your level

>>514941791
>The problem here is that I don't think you have done your own research
Oh I have. I know what the facts are. You just trust WaPo's opinion.

>>514941705
God does all the graffiti. Everything he does seems totally fucking retarded and like a gigantic waste of energy and time. He also lets himself into our houses to “help” us. Maybe he is helping us, did you ever think of that? Probably not, probably because his idea of help is to poison your body so you cant have sex anymore. He’s pretty hardcore, hes been mutilating my genitals every day. Lol, I doubt this is being read, not that anyone can stop him. He’s not physically here, how do you stop a guy who summons invisible tools to mutilate genitals. Thats wizardry and also pretty gruesome. Well it makes sense, im the king of all the humans so i get to have a bloody cock to improve my mind like he said. Id like to flee though, I dont like bleeding from my penis. But theres nowhere to go really, hes everywhere.

>>514941863
Why would you bother to tattoo people you wanted to exterminate?

>>514941493
>because you have to be a citizen to be a judge.
Who said they weren't citizens, the claim was that they weren't born in the country. That still is a conflict of interest: an immigrant is ruling on a case of immigration. A fair judge would recuse themselves, a corrupt judge, not so much.

It takes 30 seconds to go search and check:
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/25/a-third-of-all-dc-district-judges-were-not-born-in-united-states/

>>514941709
>where he has violated civil rights
What about the rights of Americans, especially law abiding ones? Why are you so concerned about the rights of foreign people who weren't born in the US, aren't citizens, and who blatantly violated the law?

>>514941865
What are the facts?
>do your own research
This shit is pretty transparent, my dude.

>>514941844
leftoids don't care about any of that, they just care that a spic was removed and disrupted their plans of overwhelming the US with third world migrants that will vote for their party after being given amnesty. that is literally all this is about. they don't care about the people like they claim, they just want their votes.

>>514930630 (OP)
>Garcia
good

>>514941843
according to us or according to you? we're still waiting for your definition since you've been correcting everyone about it

>>514941914
>This shit is pretty transparent
Of course you think it is when you only read about shit from news sites.
You still haven't listed the shit I asked you to list.

>>514936476
>Company goes under, gets laid off and deported because he isn't merkles Gold
Great plan!

>>514941905
If a judge has citizenship, how is there a conflict of interest in judging cases where the defendant is an immigrant? There is precisely zero possibility of establishing a precedent which impacts them personally. I'm not sure you understand what a conflict of interest actually is. If a judge owns $100m in Microsoft stock and sits on the board, they have a conflict of interest when presiding over a case in which the future of Microsoft is at stake and they should recuse themselves.

Judges are human beings, and we're all seven handshakes removed from one another in the first place. They cannot adjudicate from a vacuum, and they arguably shouldn't.

>>514941966
>heh, so you like books, huh? name every book >:)
I can't name every book, sorry.

>>514941964
Answer the question.
Give me a single solitary reason why you won't accept planeloads of spics that don't speak your language, hate your race, hate your country, will vote against your interests at every opportunity and will leech off your state welfare until they die, etc.
If Trump offered tomorrow to send all the illegals to Europe instead, you would say HELL NO. Explain why you give that answer without tripping over your words in a desperate bid to not be "racist" or "fascist".

>>514930630 (OP)
He was a fed collecting information on the epstein case. This is why they go as far as smearing him using government accounts. They're doing it right in front of you and you fell for the narrative that he was beating on bitches

>>514942074
Yet you said you could remember countless incidents where Trump ignored court orders and violated people's civil rights.
So list them.

>>514930630 (OP)
There is no way Trumps government is going to deport even half the people who came under Biden, so far they have only deported 145 419 people according to FOIA request to make them release the numbers

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-data-immigrants-self-deportation-trump-administration-2124106

>>514941898
why did hitler say he wanted to exterminate jews and gypsies if he didn't want to exterminate them? Why did he put them in camps if he didn't want to exterminate them? Why did he pursue campaign to ostracize and sterilize what he viewed as impure races if he didn't want to exterminate them?
>uuuuh but muh tattoos
as I said, /b/ is more your level

>>514937538
>>514937444
There are many ways I could answer your questions but I am lazy right now and just want to say that I am really happy for you guys and wish you the best,

>>514942150
>Why did he put them in camps if he didn't want to exterminate them?
So America wanted to genocide all the Japanese-Americans?

>>514942093
I'll only bother answering you after you explain what your first intervention about fascism was all about

because I know you can't, I know you don't want to argue on good faith, so why am I going to bother at all with someone like that

>>514942110
That's not the way memory works, anon. My intuition is that I've seen, over the past 200+ days of reading 10-15 news articles (at least) every single day, that I've accumulated enough experiential residue to find the idea of 55 cases in which Trump has ignored the courts eminently plausible. Maybe you should read the news more -- you might be better informed.

>>514938555
Trips of truth
Rayciss!!! Is just pattern recognition

>>514942215
>That's not the way memory works
That's what I thought. You have no evidence.
Last (you) from me leftard.

>>514930630 (OP)
Yep
Thats me
Youre probably wondering how I got here

>>514942262
Ok bye

>>514942213
>N-no u.. Stupid American I am so much more refined than you...
As expected, you have no answer. People like you never have an answer when confronted with reality because you are weak, stupid, and don't think ahead.
Since you have no objection, we'll be sending the planeloads of spics to Belgium tomorrow morning. You better welcome them with open arms, or else you might just accidentally be fascist, which we all know is the worst possible thing that anyone can do.

>>514942049
You don't seem to understand your own country. There's a reason why if want to run for president that you have to be born in the United States. Do you think the founders just put things in there in there for fun? Or do you think having giving a foreigner a piece of paper magically means they won't have any conflicts of interest? Do you understand that even in countries like China they tell you that if you want to keep your Chinese citizenship (for it to be valid) you can't have citizenship of other countries?

Do you not understand that those in your government that have both say an Israeli and an American citizenship that that means when it comes to things like adjudicating an Israeli or deciding foreign policy in the Middle East that there's a conflict of interest there. Or do you just seem to think conflict of interest is just about financial stuff? It seems to be what you're implying.

>>514931982
then why did they vote for it to be their president?

>>514941905
>What about the rights of Americans, especially law abiding ones?
Glad you asked this. My entire baseline here is preserving our own rights. When immigrants are denied due process and can be spirited away in the middle of the night to El Salvador or Uganda without receiving due process, that doesn't happen in a vacuum -- it is a base case for erosion of rights we are all protected by. After all, if the government can detain you, put you on a plane, and deport you without so much as releasing your name... what protection do citizens have if the mechanism which establishes their citizenship is bypassed? It's a huge issue for all of us.

That sort of thing.

>>514930630 (OP)
good
send all of them the fuck back
we dont need any of them

>>514942345
cool fantasies you have, I guess for you fantasies are better than reality. at least 5 posts in the span of 15 minutes just so you can dodge clarifying your thoughts, because you know if you go down that road it will be made clear that your initial statement was baseless and ignorant. But as long as you dodge you can pretend you weren't mistaken, and remain ignorant
good for you

>>514942448
Why do you keep typing like chatgpt?

>>514940692
Please kys and do the world a favor
I can't stand your faggotry and I don't many others can either

Why did he return to America after that? Some balls

>>514942417
>There's a reason why if want to run for president that you have to be born in the United States
We're not talking about the presidency, we're talking about judges. Please stay on topic.

>>514942486
Maybe ChatGPT types like me rather than the other way around. Thanks for the compliment, though kek

>>514942188
so hitler said he wanted to exterminate them and exterminated a lot of them but he didn't know what he wanted to do and didn't know what he was doing. It's good that you're here 80 ears later to correct the records or throw retarded questions as a form of argument

>>514941111
Look how they ignore your digits
Do you think they are organic users?

>>514942501
He didn't return. We brought him back to face charges of crimes.
But the judge just figured he didn't need to be remanded and they just let him go.

>>514930630 (OP)
Part of me wonders what has changed to cause such a massive influx of people flooding into the U.S.? I mean migrant workers aren’t new but they mostly would stick to border areas and do day labor work before crossing back when it was done. The current situation with the border seems untenable due to the scale as well as the limited methods to both deport illegals and secure the border. If we could shrink the area that needs to be watched that would make things much easier.

I don't know why people think this is a Trump thing, the policies and information used to arrest him was all gather under Biden and Obama. You can be labelled a criminal for wearing a hat in the US with a sports team, I am not even joking.

I got labelled an White Supremacist in some databases and an LGBT person in others after talking to some friends who were cops, they looked it up for me, but just typing opinions or browsing links on the internet has had me flagged under some many lists that it's not even sensible anymore.

>>514942510
>stay on topic!
The sentence right after it talked about judges. Now I know you're just a troll who got too lazy to keep trying to argue. Last (you).

>>514941313
>vast majority of fascist regimes don't have universal healthcare, nor do they deport other races
Man ... Fascist Italy and NSDAP Germany would like a word with you, so would this guy
You are a dumb nigger, you are the blackest dumbest gorilla nigger I have ever seen

>>514942599
>Do you think the founders just put things in there in there for fun?
This one?
>Or do you think having giving a foreigner a piece of paper magically means they won't have any conflicts of interest?
Or this one? I think you're mistaking me for someone who doesn't know what a conflict of interest, when in fact I have explained to you in plain language a precise example of what qualifies as conflict of interest. Being a naturalized citizen is not a reasonable conflict of interest when adjudicating NON-CITIZENS because, as I've said, there is NO PLAUSIBLE WAY in which they could possibly impact themselves. Your response was to ignore all my examples and all my logic and instead say, like... immigrant bad because they're all heckin evil conspirators doing evil immigrant things... despite the fact that they gave enough of a shit about our system to become a fucking judge kek.

Not sure where you want to take this from here. I'm not going to respond very well to more thin arguments rooted in reference to political dogma. I'm not about that shit.

>>514942558
No.

>every accusation is an admission of guilt

Who throws the word shill around the most?

>>514942581
>I got labelled an White Supremacist in some databases
Aren't you, though? Kek

>>514942692
He is just trying to do the same trick all leftoids do to try and conflate crony dictatorships with fascism.

>>514942558
That meme died because spam filters on 4chan are insane.

>>514942889
America isn't even a dictatorship.

>>514942872
No, I lived in Mexico for like 2 years almost and was dating a fat ass latino. If I was a white supremacist, I'd probably move to Idaho and not live on the west coast.

>>514943021
Right on. You're not wrong anyway. We've been laying the groundwork for what trump's doing for a century now. A century of faggy authoritarian frameworks whose only guardrails were norms. We let the executive progressively empower himself for generations and act surprised when someone comes along who doesn't care about the norms. Shit writes itself.

>>514941361
>WaPo is a reasonably trustworthy publication
He says this, seriously, ten years after current year and the murder of Seth rich
Damn boy. The state of (You)
Do you know what's funny about /pol/?
jews are openly despised here, and yet denigrating Seth rich, a jew, will result in (You) being lambasted
Do you know why?
Because the truth is the most important thing, and he revealed it, and was martyred for it
And the sad part, is (You) don't even know the truth and you have the audacity to come here and try to lecture others upon it
The absolute state of (You)

>>514941878
>Lol, I doubt this is being read
I did read it and I know your insane postings from before
Nigger, brah, you need serious help

>>514930630 (OP)
Well its the proper due process, lmao. You stupid leftist fucks just didnt get it, he is getting deported no matter how much due process you go through.

>>514943114
The norms clearly aren't working anymore. It's good that they are being broken.
Say leftyanon, can you answer my question that the Belgian guy dodged about why Europe refuses to take any illegal third world migrants, but thinks the US should be forced to and that it's inhumane to deport them?

>>514943312
Kilmar was never denied due process, despite what the (((news))) sites say.

>>514943195
My point is that there's a reasonable middle ground for non-partisans between TRUST EVERYTHING THE MEDIA SAYS and TRUST NOTHING THE MEDIA SAYS. The world rarely operates in binaries -- when a publication is wrong, it's usually a matter of degree rather than black and white. That's why I'm saying that if WaPo likely wasn't outright lying about having analyzed 337 Trump court cases since Jan. That's a ridiculous statement. What's less ridiculous is that it got some of it wrong... but even then, it's hard to imagine how unless you believe that everyone is outright lying to you.
>>514943325
>can you answer my question that the Belgian guy dodged about why Europe refuses to take any illegal third world migrants
Nope. I focus mostly on the US and its domestic issues rather than trying to understand the domestic issues of other countries. I have no way of knowing without bringing myself up to speed on what's happening in Europe whether or not what you're saying is a fair and realistic interpretation and framing of what's going on viz. Yurope.
>>514943340
>more epistemic casualty bubble-speak
Kek

>>514942150
Ausrotten means removal. Expulsion
The havara plan was very clear about the destination of the extripation of European jewery to the levant and Madagascar
But yeah he totally wanted and planed on literally genociding gypsies and he was entirely right to do so.
They are the worst creatures on earth
It's funny that this is never brought up
Especially by jews. They were always only going to be expelled
Gypsies on the other hand were going to be annihilated and not a single country and people before or after has ever raised so much as an objection or eyebrow about that plan
Funny that

>>514937444
Democracy is a sham, you have retards electing professional grifters who cannot lead and this is done every 4 years so you have one administration setting policies and the next administration trying to unfuck or undo what the previous admin did.

>>514942510
Man you are one disingenuous nigger
>>514942599
Hey paddy, don't give this faggot any more (You)

>>514939859
God imagine if the fascist Trump was real and he rounded up every democrats and hanged them all.

>>514943597
He's more likely to turn on Republicans and to certain degree already has, Democrats will be content with just existing.

>>514942846
No one did until (You)
>every accusation is an admission
The iron board
Looks like we got an Saul alinsky acolyte over here
And yet you still fail to check
Funny that

>>514942889
>It's all so tiresome.jpg
I am bored of their tactics guys

>>514943534
I'm probably the only person in this entire thread arguing honestly from first principles in public kek. "Disingenuous" implies an dialectic which conceals its principles, restricts arbitrarily the scope of acceptable evidence, attempts to argue by social engineering, etc. All rhetoric is social engineering to a certain extent and unavoidable in arguments, but there's a material difference between rhetoric and sophistry.

>>514930630 (OP)
>The administration previously offered to eventually deport Abrego Garcia to Costa Rica in exchange for a guilty plea, his lawyers told the judge overseeing his human trafficking case last month. However, Abrego Garcia did not accept the offer, according to a source familiar with his case.

>Eswatini — formerly known as Swaziland — is located in Southeast Africa and is roughly the size of New Jersey. Governed by a monarch who has absolute power, Eswatini is one of four African countries that have struck a deal with the Trump administration to receive foreign deportees, along with Rwanda, South Sudan and Uganda.
This guy’s lawyers are retarded holy shit.

>>514942846
Also I might be retarded and just realized I may have misread your post
>Mfw you answered No, to my question and I didn't see it

>>514943716
The lawyers don't really care about Kilmar. They are just trying to make waves.

>>514943703
>implies an dialectic which conceals its principles, restricts arbitrarily the scope of acceptable evidence, attempts to argue by social engineering,
THIS FROM THE NIGGER THAT SAID WAPO WAS TOTES MCGROTES TRUSTWORTHY TEN ANNIUMS AFTER CURRENT YEAR!!
MY FUCKING SIDES!!!!

>>514943848
>THIS FROM THE NIGGER THAT SAID WAPO WAS TOTES MCGROTES
Let's quote exactly what I said instead kek:
>>514943470
>My point is that there's a reasonable middle ground for non-partisans between TRUST EVERYTHING THE MEDIA SAYS and TRUST NOTHING THE MEDIA SAYS. The world rarely operates in binaries -- when a publication is wrong, it's usually a matter of degree rather than black and white. That's why I'm saying that if WaPo likely wasn't outright lying about having analyzed 337 Trump court cases since Jan.
Does that make sense?

>>514943470
>That's why I'm saying that if WaPo likely wasn't outright lying
Oh you mean you want me to trust liars after they have been caught lying, repeatedly, but this time it's totally on the up and up?

>>514943897
Does this make sense? >>514943913
Just trust known liars bro!
Just trust people who have been proven by actual journalist and political prisoners to be mouth pieces of the military industrial complex, international finance and SEND ARTICLES TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN FOR EDITING

>>514943913
I'm suggesting that the characterization of an entire organization as liars is likely self-serving and irrational, yes.

>>514931892
>opportunistic parasites are good for you
this is what parasites will tell you

>>514936830
>Argentina is the whitest country
For now. Second obviously to the US, it has the largest number of Jews in the Americas and this number is climbing rapidly.

>>514944021
>Just trust known documented liars bro
Current year plus ten, unreal

>>514944105
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that your entire orientation towards the media rests on faulty assumptions. But this is pointless, yeah? You're reciting shibboleths rather than proposing things for discussion, yeah? Maybe you can just admit to that much at least.

The point of all that was Bye Felicia!

>>514939522
Nothing will happen ever as the right gets more bones thrown their way they become more complacent and retarded ask any trump faggot about January 6th and the unlawful arrest and they'll brush it off like it was a minor inconvenience instead of the actual tyrannical overstepping of government that would of kicked off a revolution 300 years ago

>>514943913
You don't even have to show whether they're trustworthy in general or not. You just have to focus on the given topic: immigration.

>WaPo is owned by Bezos, a billionaire that bought it when he employed thousands of low skilled workers to work in warehouses/delivery
>Bezos is pro-diversity, anti-union (keeps wages down)
>allowing in millions of immigrants from dirt poor countries would increase supply of labour, and thus keep wages down, which benefits guys like Bezos.
That's a conflict of interest right there.

>>514943778
I know they want to make this guy the face against Trump’s aggressive deportations, but all that's happened is he got set as an example to not fuck around and find out.

>>514944265
Why does the left always choose the absolute worst people as their face?
First Floyd and now Kilmar? Kilmar is MS13, wife-beater, child molester and human trafficker.

>>514944172
>No no no bro you gotta just trust duplicitous liars who have been verified to be liars colluding with people that hate you and want you dead and your children raped and brainwashed and that think it's funny, but this time they are telling the truth bro for real, bro just trust the liars that lied to you before bro, come on bro
Fucking spare me.
Last (You) and pic related what (You) and them deserve

>>514944229
Can you define conflict of interest in one sentence?

>>514944319
You just can't treat any opposing viewpoint in good faith, can you? I shouldn't be disappointed, but I am.

>>514931677
Well now he is African-American

>I can't argue against your point directly
>how about we play a word game instead?
Lol no. Read the sticky of the board.

>>514944229
Look at him that nigger, he even accused me of shibboleths (every accusation a confession from the alinsky acolytes) in his last post to me after he couldn't deny the open lies and collusion that WaPo has been proven to have had and still has of which good men died to prove, and then said you couldnt define conflict of interest after you gave explicit and clear examples
I want to hurt them anon.
I really do
I gotta go
Good luck in the homeland brother, keep fighting the good fight. And know us (actual unhyphenated) Americans are rooting for you guys.
Fuck this ghey earth and death to ZOG

>>514944365
my brother in christ,
you have been arguing for the past hours about how we should be afraid for our rights because trump removed an ms13 wife beater criminal illegal alien from the country.
no one cares that trump is ignoring lower courts because they invented their own authority in the first place. if you actually care about your rights you should be more concerned about the un-elected activist judges trying to block everything that hurts their feelings.

>>514944610
He can't even name one example where Trump ignored judges or violated civil rights.
Its comical.

>>514944436
I am arguing directly against your point by using the term you refuse to define and demonstrating exactly how it's wrong. A conflict of interest is a situation in which, because of one party's combination of asymmetric power and self-interest, they cannot be trusted to rule against their own interest and in the interest of the people. I have demonstrated exactly why naturalized citizen judges have no prima facie conflict of interest in dealing with noncitizen immigrants. Your only response was to zoom out and talk about some kind of immigrant conspiracy which, EVEN IF EXTANT, does not clear the hurdle of CoI with respect to anything. You, like everyone else, refuse to engage in good faith. That's on you, but if you want to keep posturing, I'll keep on replying until you either engage or fuck off kek

>>514943659
The... the what? Are you schizophrenic?

>>514944610
>no one cares that trump is ignoring lower courts because they invented their own authority in the first place
In Marbury, SCOTUS established judicial review as an implicit authority as the only possible logical outcome of the system the Framers created. While that sounds weak, the logic is not that the system "should" exist with judicial review but that the ONLY possible interpretation of the Constitution is that judicial review exists -- as there is literally no way for the judiciary to otherwise act as a check/balance on the other branches.

Literally ANY other interpretation is one which goes against the spirit and structure of the Constitution. If you want to go and read the majority opinion yourself, you absolutely should -- it's surprisingly accessible and argued primarily from first principles and is genuinely beautiful from a logical standpoint.

>by insisting you play a word game with me I'm arguing a point
But you know you're not. I understand the appeal of wanting to take the other side so this place doesn't turn into an echochamber but you're not even trying. Even within the narrow definition of conflict of interest you wanted to use (about stocks) to make it easier for yourself, even this would apply to Bezos, since lower wages means more profit for his company.

>>514944881
Did Bezos write thar article? Is an article demonstrating how Trump has ignored, frustrated, or confounded court opinions going to win Bezos Trump's admiration or is it going to piss him off? Bezos famously restricted the WaPo from endorsing Kamala last year to gain Trump's favor -- does this expose of Trumps putative lawlessness strike you as furthering Bezos' interests in good relations with the administration?

>>514937831
This.
> Deportations are genocide.
Okay, fine. I guess now that we’re over thst bar already we can have nigger death camps and einsatzgruppen too

>>514944858
>actually my personal interpretation of this 300 year old document means you HAVE to accept unlimited illegals into the country now, because an unelected judge says so. Sorry.

>>514945048
My personal interpretation? Did you miss the part where I explicitly referenced Marbury v. Madison? Kek

>>514945091
you are trying to maintain a position that you stand for liberty and "civil rights" while simping for authoritarian, unelected activist judges that block the elected official from doing what he was elected by the people to do. you are a fucking clown.

>>514945201
>you are trying to maintain a position that you stand for liberty and "civil rights" while simping for authoritarian, unelected activist judges that block the elected official from doing what he was elected by the people to do
There's this idea in the Constitution (or maybe in the Federalist papers, can't remember) of the "tyranny of the majority." If you're unfamiliar with it, as a very short history lesson, our government was formed against abuses by both British parliament and the king. Britain's parliament was famously primitive -- a simple majority meant almost unbounded authority. What this resulted in was a seesaw effect whereby parties would trade off exerting absolute influence over one another's affairs.

While our system is anti-monarchic, its genesis against a parliamentary system is undersold.

What I'm saying here is that a simple majority, electing the executive, should not be able to bypass all our constitutional safeguards. Our system has been set up explicitly to avoid this dynamic whereby a simple majority can gain power and wield unlimited power.

I'm not just gesturing towards things -- I'm trying to DEMONSTRATE to you why we have the system we do and how its safeguards are being systematically dismantled.

Oh so now Bezos has to have personally written the article for it to be considered a conflict of interest? Let's ignore the minor detail that he owns the company eh? This is moving the goalposts to outer space. Read the board sticky, you are special pleading.

WaPo began firing 20 staff and kept 30 vacancies open just four days after he visited newsroom for a top editorial meeting. Do you want to move the goalposts some more or perhaps you want to redefine the meaning of words to try to escape this bind you put yourself in?

>>514930630 (OP)
It's about sending a message maple faggot...

>>514941342
Nobody cares what libs think

>>514945531
Nope! Per usual, you're failing to follow the logic. You claimed that Bezos has a conflict of interest by owning the paper. I'm asking you to define what Bezos' demonstrated interests are. If Bezos' interests are getting in with the administration (demonstrably true), and if this article is more likely to piss Trump off than ingratiate him, what follows is that the paper is more independent than you'd like it to be. You're not very good at this.

>>514931125
no one cares anymore. move on.

>>514936369
did they just make up a country so they could deport that guy?
sorey but i dont believe it. this reeks of jewish pr

>>514945479
Based. This nigger has far too much power. Like. "Doing what the people voted for". Oh they voted to fire 90 percent of the consumer financial protection bureau? Who benefits from this?

https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/

>395 cases

Lmfao

>>514946100
That's what we in the business call "lawfare".

>>514940692
>He's ignored roughly one full third of court judgments with respect to immigration and deportations
good, no more kicking down the can for another decade

>>514946254
Just shut the fuck up already, you low-information brainlet kek. Your algorithm takes information, resets resets that information to 0, and outputs a random permutation of TRUMP GOOD. You're a permanent cripple of the epistemic wars -- you have become so adrift in the informational landscape that you believe only what you are told to believe... just from nontraditional sources, as if NONTRADITIONAL GOOD in that explicit, binary sense. Many such cases these days.

I think I hurt the bot's feelings kek

>>514946100
This. This is what cult membership short-circuits. It inoculates True Believers against anything but information which coheres with their a priori beliefs. We have entire generations of mental cripples so completely unable to function in the modern information space that they latch onto the most puerile possible artificial certainty at all costs -- even if it's rooted ultimately in the fucking Twitter posts of a half-senile, authoritarian reality-TV star. Hell, maybe they like it even more because of it -- finally, someone they can vote for who also gets all his information from Twitter and Fox News... just like them! Kek

We're looking pretty fucked over here.

>>514946254
You niggers are single handedly making America look like an utter joke to the entire world. If I were the president I would deport you to the center of the earth where you would get raped by rabid niggers and dinosaurs

>>514946650
I'm white. Not a nigger.

>>514946650
Based

>>514946643
Let these niggers rape themselves, I say. My biggest issue with them is they're so disingenous about everything. Everything turns onto a debate where you have to choose between explaining shit to someone like theyre a child or deflecting false allegations manufactured to shatter your argument.

Also, they cant fucking read.

>>514946702
>im white
32pbtid
No, you aren't

>>514946815
>2 pbtid
Real whitey here

>I'm asking you to define what Bezos' demonstrated interests are
It was explained to you, but since you want to pretend to be ignorant and for the benefit of others:
>As of last month, Jeff Bezos remains Amazon's largest individual shareholder with an 8% stake, valued at about $187 billion.
>Amazon employs thousands of low skilled workers in warehouses and delivery
>Amazon has engaged in anti-union activities and is pro-diversity
>a company like Amazon benefits from mass immigration because it suppresses wages (reducing costs for the company)
>mass immigration is so unpopular Jeff bought a newspaper to make sure that a typical left wing publication that would normally be pro-worker and pro-union is never going to criticise mass immigration and instead runs attack pieces on Trump because he wants to limit immigration, especially the illegal kind (which flood the labour market in low skilled jobs).
If you can't see the obvious conflict of interest here I don't know what to tell you.

>>514946983
>Real whitey here
I got your back bro

>>514930630 (OP)
>What was the point
So they could deport him to some foreign shit hole (highly publicized) and scare beaners to self deport

>>514947109
The covid jab killed most white people here. It's all Cubans and Jamaicans now. While the Indians push state propaganda. I'm scared. Our kind has to stick together. Its like world war z out here

>>514934908
Kek would watch

>>514947298
I would watch as well for the 5 minutes he's alive after arriving in Africa.
Those niggers are gonna eat him.

>>514947226
Shit is critical brother if we don't maintain strength in what's left of our White countries the whole world will become a third world shithole
Scary indeed...
Just remember though Whites don't need a lot of us to dominate once we band together again

>>514941237
I noticed how you used a lower case b for blacks, thereby devaluing them next to Jews and Mexicans.

So he is going to live amongst the Zulus and learn their ways?

>>514947437
If its anything like swaziland, he should be more worried about the boars and mosquitoes.

>>514947390
Nope. We will wage war through deception and pit all our enemies against one another haha. They wont even know whats coming

>>514947076
No response to the ways in which Bezos has worked to support the administration, huh? Very dishonest from start to finish.

Yes, what you wrote is true. No, it doesn't imply Jeff Bezos has intervened to direct the Washington Post to lie about an article wherein it analyzed 337 court cases against trump and found that in 55 of them he ignored the court's ruling.

You're also completely ignoring the most salient counterpoint: that Bezos blocked WaPo's endorsement of Kamala. It would help your case to so much as acknowledge opposing points. Just a very dishonest style of discourse, honestly.

>>514947618
That's the spirit

>>514931125
I guess you haven’t heard.
Here’s a hint.

https://youtu.be/TSffz_bl6zo?si=bBgcECcddtZHLwXv

Oh so now it can't be a conflict of interest regarding immigration because he works with the administration on other issues when it's in his interest? Yeah that's not what the phrase means, again it's rule 3, you need to read it.

>>514947618
>>514947686
I hope you guys take your country back. Free of all foreign interference. And please deport the radioactive green id to Africa would you when you get access to this honeypot site? He's lost the right to be an American.

>>514936476
I don't understand why browntoids boast about undermining their host nation. It really doesn't benefit you. But, then again youre most likely a fed trying to mind break some 4chan incels into doing shit.

>>514948061
>I don't understand why browntoids boast about undermining their host nation
It's because they only think of themselves and their group and can't think far enough into the future. That's one of the reasons why their countries are such shitholes in the first place. They genuinely can't see how importing millions of third worlders makes the place they're in more like the third world. Think of it like the nigger in Africa who was given lots of seeds to farm, instead of planting the seeds they feast on them. They'll enjoy a good year or two and those years down the line? They're not even thinking of it.

>>514947843
Oh you guys were actually running with this point? Lol. Here's what actually happened:

>trump and epstein were bffs for 10 years
>epsteins a bit of a creep, but that's alright because he's vibes. He poaches an underage employee from Mar a Lago. Trump knows but doesn't care, it's all good in the hood.

>that's alright though, shes just a dumb broad.
>then epstein crosses the line. He fucks trump over on a real estate deal. Instantly reported to the FBI.

Shaloms razor: the most Jewish explanation is always the one closest to truth

>>514947942
Conflict of interest is not a grand, all-consuming shibboleth that, once established in one domain, overrides everything else. More to the point: the INDEPENDENCE of WaPo from Bezos' interests is what's at issue here, you brainless drone. Do you even remember what we've been talking about, or is this whole thing just a white-knuckled, post-by-post assault on what was said last?

We are talking about whether or not the WaPo article in rich 337 cases were evaluated (etc.) is... real, I guess? Not a complete and utter lie from root to tip?

You first tried to argue that judges have conflicts of interest because... all immigrants are in it together, or something. You started preaching the dogma and I tuned out a bit. But you seem to have conceded that point (after, hilariously, refusing to define "conflict of interest," despite continuing to use it) so I won't harp on it.

Then, you moved to talk about how WaPo itself can't be trusted because it's owned by Jeff Bezos. Here, you started preaching the dogma again and I tuned out because I don't care about your priors. You made some points about how it's in Bezos' interest for immigration to continue (it's in everyone's interest, for the record kek -- without immigrants we're in a demographic crisis here). Some of them were valid, but in the process of laying out your evidence, you never bothered to acknowledge evidence that JB doesn't actually have complete control over WaPo... and that his interests may be more primarily aligned with staying in the good graces of the administration. You had no response to this.

Here we are, at the end of a very obnoxious interaction. At no point have you bothered to use your own brain or your own words to advance so much as an acknowledgement of any points I made -- just a selective interaction with what you already "know" to be true. This has been very, very disappointing on multiple levels.

>>514948040
>I hope you guys take your country back

Ive been making as many white babies as possible. I live in Salt Lake city and have been raping every woman i see. They dont even report you to the police, hell they even joined my cult in the woods.

Im gonna teach these kids to rape trump.

>>514948397
And when we take power. Im drafting all migatards in the battle against Israel. Yes, even the old war Hawks. They will be given 24 hours to exterminate as many jews as possible before I launch the tactical nukes. I will turn these useful idiots into heroic martyrs of their glorious country, giving them one last chance at dignity

>Conflict of interest is not a grand, all-consuming shibboleth that, once established in one domain, overrides everything else
You don't understand what the phrase means. So let me explain to you with an example. If I refer my cousin or long time school friend for a company I work for. I shouldn't be involved in interviewing him for the position. There is a conflict of interest there (I would benefit from having him at the company and I also stand to gain financially through a referral bonus). You can't turn around and say but Anon, you've made great contributions to the company and I think conflict of interest doesn't apply and you should totally interview him. That's not how it works. You're arguing a strawman because you lost the argument.

>>514948397
>>514948719
This will never happen. Racialism and conspiracism are intrinsically counter-revolutionary. Any movement which organizes along ethnic or religious lines assists power rather than hindering it. It divides the lower classes along arbitrary lines (look up MLK's Poor People's Campaign for direct evidence of both trans-racial cooperation along class lines and how power actually reacts) and prevents any movement from fully attaining broad power. Not sure if you're aware of this and don't care or just too deep, but there's a better way.

Your ideology excludes people who could otherwise help you accomplish your goals and ends up entrenching elite ownership and thereby reinforces all the conditions which arose to create you and your ideology in the first place.

All of this has been proven over and over again in the historical record. It is factual, not conjectural.

>>514948936
>This will never happen.

Does this xitter know the spirit of Adolf hitler is inside me?

>>514948783
My man, you are STILL avoiding responding to me directly BECAUSE you need to leverage social/behavioral extraneous factors to preserve your distance and the sense/performance of the victory condition. It's fully transparent and, of course, just as dishonest as everything else you've been trying to "slide in." I see through it. If you think you've been talking to someone who doesn't see through every single thing you're doing... well, I don't know what to tell you.

So to recap the green id:
>tells us to just trust WaPo
>insists it must be at least somewhat trustworthy
>a clear conflict of interest with its owner is pointed out
>wants to play word games for several posts
>moves the goalposts to ridiculous levels (Bezos himself must write the articles!)
>calls the person obnoxious simply for pointing this out
>is upset he's not being given those sweet (you)s
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

>>514949279
>moves the goalposts to ridiculous levels (Bezos himself must write the articles!)
I'm just gonna have to chalk this one up to the ±2 standard deviations rule. There was never going to be the possibility of discussion with someone as average in their thought as you are. You literally can't understand what I'm saying on the most basic, fundamental level. What a waste.
>>514949024
My point is that there's a better way to accomplish what you want.

>resorting to ad hominem
Desperation sets in. You really should familiarise yourself with the board rules before trying to lecture other people, it's pretty embarrassing. I feel embarrassed for you. The repeated special pleading was particularly embarrassing.

>>514949449
I dont need to find a better way to do what I want. I just need to have fun, because I'll get it no matter what. Hitler told me

>>514949527
I feel embarrassed for myself, too. There was nothing I was ever going to be able to do to compel you to discuss anything in good faith. You know your strengths and you're going to stick to them -- defending your positions head-on is definitely not among them. Whatever. Any lurkers saw that I interacted with you in good faith from start to finish -- I laid out my reasoning and engaged with yours. That your style of proselytizing in poor faith might be nominally more board-friendly is a constraint I didn't choose and consciously refrain from using every day I post.

We're breaking the fourth wall here, and have been for a while. Just want to say that you and I both know that you're argumentation was specious and, while canny, canny in a very kind of low-cunning way. I have to believe that sustained engagement based on logic from first principles will take the board back from brainless retards like (You).

Been on 4chan since 2006, for the record -- so I mean it when I tell you that you're not doing anything surprising kek

>>514931125
>calls someone pedo
>image name reveals him as a phone poster
>image name reveals him as having a pedo phone
nice try

>>514949735
Just be careful what you wish for. Unless you're planning on offing yourself, we're all gonna have to keep living in this world. I've spent a couple years at war. I know from personal experience how far the divide is from watching e.g. gore on the internet (been there, done that -- tried to desensitize myself pre deployment) is very different from stuffing chunks of people into body bags. We also tend to under-index on daily misery: being too cold for too long, not getting enough sleep, having not enough food and water and having to move regardless. You don't know what you don't know.

>Been on 4chan since 2006
That's why you're not understanding the board sticky? You're not making any sense. I understand you're having 49ptid melty but this is embarrassing. All your accusations are confessions. I accept your concession. Maybe you'll keep it together in the next thread.

>>514950089
Still going with the ruse, huh? Even when you pose the victory posture you can't find it in yourself to act like a human being kek.
>melty
I have literally just explained to you in plain English exactly why I've been interacting with you. 4chan used to be more than just a dumping ground for longform Twitter posts. You chose to use social anonymity as a vector for some puerile dominance game (hehe you can't prove me wrong if i just refuse to be proven wrong or even engage with you!) and that's, well, really fucking stupid, but it's your solipsism, my dude. Once you've been around as long as I have, you'll be as bored with this whole posturing game as I am and maybe want to discuss something substantively. You might someday be grateful that people like me are actively trying to reclaim the ability to discuss things in a higher register.

Or maybe not.