Thread 515151903

Why aren’t you a pagan yet?

>>515151903 (OP)
Any good spots with this kind of vibe in Ohio?

>>515151903 (OP)
I don’t worship demons

>>515151903 (OP)
magic is not real, but i do little personal seasonal rituals on a pagan calendar because i was too lazy to come up with my own holiday days

>>515152048
>the gods my ancestors worshipped are demons because a jew said so

>>515151903 (OP)
because that would be choosing to devolve.

>>515151903 (OP)
I'm straight

>>515152348
Yes

>>515151903 (OP)
Pagans never define any specific beliefs. I also think the Jews got it right, unironically though.

>>515151903 (OP)
I'm an atheist, but pagans are more admirable than christians because they don't worship a dead jew on a stick

>>515151903 (OP)
I'm not gay. But if a cute femboi wants to tempt me...

Servitude and freedom—this is in the last and deepest analysis the differentia by which we distinguish vegetable and animal existence. A herd that huddles together trembling in the presence of danger, a child that clings weeping to its mother, a man desperately striving to force a way into his God—all these are seeking to return out of the life of animal freedom into the vegetal servitude from which they were emancipated.
Added to all this is the universal dread of reality. We "pale-faces" have it, all of us, although we are seldom, and most of us never, conscious of it. It is the spiritual weakness of the "Late" man of the higher civilizations, who lives in his cities cut off from the peasant and the soil and thereby from the natural experiencing of destiny, time, and death. He has become too wide awake, too accustomed to ponder perpetually over yesterday and tomorrow, and cannot bear that which he sees and is forced to see: the relentless course of things,senseless chance, and real history striding pitilessly through the centuries into which the individual with his tiny scrap of private life is irrevocably born at the appointed place. That is what he longs to forget, refute, or contest. He takes flight from history into solitude, into imaginary far-away systems, into some faith or another, or into suicide. Like a grotesque ostrich he buries his head in hopes, ideals, and cowardly optimism: it is so, but it ought not to be, therefore it is otherwise. We sing in the woods at night because we are afraid.

I prefer Asatru since it declares faith in the gods rather than resorting to historical linguistics for the sake of accuracy

>>515153333
silence hebrew. relinquish your digits to me, for I am Amun-Ra born upon this Earth and my Sha is supreme

>>515151903 (OP)
I was, but Jesus is the only one who answered my prayers.

Baal worshippers and their puppets have erased almost all of our older religious traditions. There is obviously a higher power that is good and this is enough.

>>515153391
He's not dead :D
Really weird that the "dead jew on a stick" that you deride as pathetic, who was a humble carpenter from Galilee, is objectively the most influential human being to have ever lived. Guess that calls for seething, huh?

>>515151903 (OP)
The jews told me that they would really hate it if I worshipped one of them.

>>515154035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLomnZIvoFs

>>515151903 (OP)
Pagan is not a religion. It's just a category which contains all religions around the world that are not abrahamic. That's thousands of religions.

>>515154173
>most influential human
debatable

>>515151903 (OP)
because idols can't speak and sacrificing animals was made obsolete by you know whom.

>>515151903 (OP)
Because God has spoken to me three times:
Once when I died and came back to life,
Twice when I was questioning religion and its meaning.
I genuinely believe he has something in store for me but I don't know what yet. I hope it's something positive.

>>515151903 (OP)
>Pagan
You mean atheists LARPers?
There are near to no pagans today.
The Catholic church is the linear evolution of paganism, not the opposite of it. The concept of a heavenly father with saints (minor gods) is old, really old, we never stopped believing the same things, but Jesus gave us much more.
Build your faith anon, Jesus is the greatest thing on earth, he will massively improve you, if you allow it.
Also, there were never pagan occult serious cults or stuff like that, the folk tales, gods and spirits were always inside the church, stop believing jewish slob.

It feel good to be normal

>>515154618
>you know whom
moloch? the god of the jews? we dont bow down to foreign gods, and we shall not be providing your baal yahweh with any sacrifices of lemons
>>515154725
>brazilian
silence monkey, go back to worshiping an idol of tranny satan next to the virgin mary in your jungle favela

>>515151903 (OP)
>Why aren’t you a pagan yet?
I'm not really into the lgbt narrative or jewish deceptions.

>>515151903 (OP)
Im a sol sipper nigger

>>515155031
>feels good to be normal
you arent normal, you are brazilian

>>515151903 (OP)
the pagan/heathenry has to go. we have to stand in our faith of the doing GOOD as something that is normal and GOOD. not some kike names for shit they didnt like. helenism is good but it got false idols. nature should be looked as God, because then no man has control of it. At least from a cosmic scale, for now....

>>515155154
>im not into jewish deceptions
your flag says otherwise

>>515152576
kike

>>515151903 (OP)
Rabbi Yeshua demands that I lick nigger feet in order to be saved!

>>515154590
Honestly, not really.

>>515153333
they just worship the actual act of sacrifice, not any particular god from what I can tell. Theyre pluralists, moloch, satan, chronos. I stand with jupiter and sol. Truth and liberty and freedom. Along Jeffersons beliefs.

>>515153333
which pagans never define specific beliefs?

like the theory of there being a single god, the pagan theory that predates the torah in written record?

or the theory of trinity, also pagan

or the theory of atoms, also pagan

which pagan cult are you referring too?

ill be honest, it doesnt seem like you know nor had any in mind

>>515154131
good? thats where you are wrong. pointless sacrifice is inefficient. balance is much more attainable.

>>515151903 (OP)
No god has ever revealed themselves to me. I do not believe in things without empirical proof.

>>515154473
There has to be a better way to describe this. something the npc kike golem can attach to but never use as a pajorative.

>>515155103
>muh nothingness(es)

>>515155762
Creation, growth, improvement, fairness, beauty, wisdom, teaching. In no particular order. If you don't value them it's sad I guess.

>>515151903 (OP)
Idk but I feel an unexplained attraction to this subject

>>515154173
>the most influential human
He's fake, retard. Saul of Tarsus had more to do with creating and spreading Christianity that "Jesus" did.

>>515155948
inbreeding, thievery, nomadism, usury stay in khazaria so we can nuke you with it kike.

>>515155762
purchasing a chicken with the intent of killing it as a sacrifice is not relinquishing ownership or benefit as an offering, you purchased it for that intent, you're not giving anything up

sure hope judaism isnt real, can you imagine damning yourself to nothingness for eternity because you couldnt comprehend a single word 'sacrifice'

>>515156026
thats just your kike genes telling you to control the subject to help kikes. fuck off nigger you inbred gypsys will never be white.

>>515151903 (OP)
Reminder that "pagan" is just an abrahamic word for nonabrahamic traditions.
I practice buddhism and shamanism and study the esoterics of greek theology.
Four elements.
The sky, the earth, the water.
The highly populated spirit world (yahweh is an asura).
Cause and Effect.
Focus on birth.

Abrahamism is such unbelieveable trash, including its counter-cultures of atheism and satanism (both still abrahamism). The further you get away from it, and into reality and the spiritual that is revealed to your very eyes, the more hilarious it is.

>>515155390
Heh, niggerkike.. hope all countries in the world stops supporting remphanistan.
https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/euisrael-relations-strained-as-frederiksen-singles-out-netanyahu

>>515152348
People were ruled by the fallen angels til Jesus arrived

Zeus and Odin never existed or rose from the dead. Only one Man has ever done that, other than those He resurrected like Lazarus.

>>515156063
>they dont harvest the chicken for eggs, then it at its term
theyre fucking retarded

>>515156296
>only MY god rose from the dead!!
cheap trick, every god learns that one

>>515156276
except the jews of course, the chosen people who had everything figured out once a voice in their head told them to remove their foreskins

>>515156265
lol never thought of kike athieism and satanism as counter culture to kike worship, amazing observation will keep in memory. God bless you brother

>>515151903 (OP)
the totem pole in background tells you this is art depicting Gaul, a handful of roman authors speak about them being head hunters, they would take the heads of their enemies as trophies, some kept them in trunks inside their house, others kept them in holes cut out on those totem poles you see in the back ground, often coated in amber to preserve them

>>515156271
I thought europe was damned because they were going atheist anon, now them being atheist is based? because them being liberal and atheist is the only reason the EU is pulling out of israeli relations. if they were heavily christian they would be pro israel (and I can bet you that the few pockets of christians in europe are in fact pro israel)

>>515156026
Kek
>>515155872
Old gods was the best I've heard, but pagan sounds bad because it is stupid, not the other way around, like nigger being a bad word.

>>515151903 (OP)
Will bring a ‘pagan’ give me a virgin girly wife?

>>515152348
What does pagan mean? Whats the name of your hoy text?

>>515151903 (OP)
How do I start?

>>515156418
Osiris was risen from the dead to conceive Horus, he then returned to the Underworld.

Also, basically all of the "Jesus copied that from earlier myths!" stuff is made up.

>>515155593
>not any particular god
pic related is similar to what I hear from them about God
>they just worship the actual act of sacrifice
Wrong. Atonement in Judaism can be achieved without bloodshed. Many such cases.
>in Exodus they burned incense
>Daniel tells Nebuchadnezzar to give charity
>Jonah gets Nineveh to save themself from God's wrath
>Prophet Jeremiah warns that going through the motions of a sacrificial offering alone means nothing
The list goes on but the point is there is a solid ground for Judaism without the temple and animal sacrifices. Christians have to continue the misinformation about that because their god depends on it being a prerequisite.

>>515156489
its obviously slavic anon. wooden 4-faced pillars are a slavic thing. the gauls used stone pillars to keep their fancy head trinkets in. you cant 'coat something in amber' to preserve it; amber forms over thousands of years from tree sap

>>515156587
yes the identification of what was once broad and normal as bad, butttt pagan does kinda sound good, just dont like kike creations.

>>515151903 (OP)
because lobotomies are illegal, thankfully
Btw:
>DESIGNATED

>>515156645
a moderate dose of shrooms on a clear night looking at the stars.

>>515151903 (OP)
religion in general is retarded

>>515156459
Jews are mutts descended from fallen angles making nephilim, then nephilim breeding with humans, then the jews mixing with other races of people

>>515156632
>whats the name of your holy text?
"Athena demands Death to All Jews"
>oh yeah, who wrote it? source??
Me

>>515152005
ask your local D&D players

>>515151903 (OP)
paganism, christianity, atheism, niggerism, whatever. All religions are worthless if they don't benefit White people

>>515156649
>Also, basically all of the "Jesus copied that from earlier myths!" stuff is made up.
never said this and yet you immediately got defensive about it; how curious. you know the spear of longinius is really just an alemannic tribal spear right?

>>515155747
That's basically what I meant. Pagans never explain which pagan beliefs they are referring to. 99% of the time on /pol/ its used as a buzzword without meaning.

>>515156703
truth nuke picture

>>515156265
good post
satanism is just controlled op for yahweh worship

>>515156650
atonement for sins should be done with personal sacrifice (work, sweat, community) rather than external (children, cattle, chicken). Efficiency is good and it should be strived for, even in worship to God. We should not waste, to sacrifice, that is incorrect.

>>515156031
1 Corinthians 15, written by Saul and dated to the mid 50s AD, less than 20 years after Christ's death and resurrection:
>Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

>For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

>>515156540
>if they were heavily christian they would be pro israel
Kek, this nigger thinks one has to mean the other. Hah, you've listened to kike media for so long it's fried your brain. If the country of "israel" was destroyed tomorrow, Christians would still walk around praising Jesus Christ. How does that make you feel?

>>515156743
do you retards even read these books you talk about? the book of enoch literally says that the greeks, romans and hittites (aka aryan peoples) are the nephilim. it says that the nephilim taught the arts of technology and writing to the aryans, which is why the aryans are evil because those are forbidden to mankind. if you actually bothered to read the bible or its related texts you would see its all about ancient race war between jews and aryans

>>515156418
Except Jesus had a shit ton of witnesses, most of them died painfully without denying the same story.
You may say they were fooled somehow, but it's hard to say they were lying.

>>515156738
wonder in the creation of God, source, whatever the fuck you want to call it is NOT a religion. It is just awe, gratefulness for the experience and DOING GOOD. Demons HATE GOOD.

>>515156851
Uh, are you now claiming that that wasn't clearly implicit in:
>>only MY god rose from the dead!!
>cheap trick, every god learns that one

I don't really care for random 'artifacts' like the so-called Spear of Longinus, nor do I think they're anything more than medieval folklore first and foremost.

>>515156894
Jews talk about that already. A lot of the animal sacrifices at the temples were also eaten by people.

>>515156944
>nephilim are the good guys right fellow white male?

>>515156855
why should I have to explain my beliefs to some gaslighting retard like you? explain your beliefs to me. half the time when I ask you 'christians' you just clam up, start stuttering about the jews and leave the thread. what do you believe in? were the jews the chosen people until they displeased god? or were the jews actually aryans until fake jews replaced them using khazar magic? did judaism exist during the time of christ? or were those not actually jews who killed jesus? I used to try to work with you faggots and keep my mouth shut but it is obvious to me you are leading our race down a slaughterhouse and you need to be called out for it

>>515156944
Whats strange to me is that Jews from biblical times saw Europeans as their evil twin. The story of Jacob and Esau is about god blessing Jacob (Jews) for swindling Esau (Europe) out of his birthright (what do you think that means in practice).

That means that in biblical times they were already seething about whitey which makes me curious about the racial demographics of the Middle East at that time.

>>515151903 (OP)
Because I don't want to be replaced by jeets

>>515156489
>often coated in amber to preserve them
Congratulations memeflaggot.
Thats the stupidest thing I've read in ages.

>>515157017
>brazilian
post hand to prove youre from a german commune or something. I dont speak to monkeys on high matters such as religion
>>515157125
>you and your ancestors are evil because a jew book said so goy!
you know niggers love the book of enoch because it describes the nephilim as white right?

>>515157116
thats cool great for them, they are on their way to good. Miss me with the dick mutilation, inbreeding, usury, shit culture, shit food, child sacrifice, trying to trick God. Fuck all that shit. Their culture is completely opposite of mine, it is wrong.

I'm agnostic.

>>515151903 (OP)
I worship a Jew

>>515157146
1. I'm not Christian.
2. My comment was directed at OP's retarded vagueness.
3. You're being a faggot who took my comment, directed at some else, personally.

>>515157274
cool

>>515157247
I'm not that Brazilian.

I had many sex dreams with Freyja. What does it mean when you don't feel anything for me? No connection between us?

>>515156980
Yea what nigger, us Christians are the original antisemites.. and i'm proud of that. We use to burn you kikes on pyres while discussing the weather, we put you in ghettos and locked you in there at night because you couldn't behave yourselves.. and we'll do it again. 109-110, the kike will fear the Christian and bow to Christ again.

I don't want to roll around In animal skins and dancing round a fire?

>>515157247
>you and your ancestors
So what are you, greek or roman?
What pagan deities do you follow?

>why aren't you pagan
ok which Gods
>LOL FUCK YOU CHRISTEKIKE LOLOL YOU KIKE COCK SUCKERS LOLOL WHITE MAN MARTCHES ON DESERT RELIGONS LOLOL

>>515157146
I’ll tell you my beliefs:

In the beginning god chose a people that were enslaved in Egypt. He offered to lead them out of slavery if they made a covenant with him which they did. He told them he is the god of pain and trauma and they must go from nation to nation destroying the temples of all nations so they can build temples to their own trauma and make the nations worship it

2. This was the first monotheism

3. This led to the age of guilt and shame which is when god’s chosen ruled through shame and guilt and made the whole world worship their guilt.

4. One day a man - a white man - went into the town center and smashed the guilt idol and said “let them laugh let them weep let them name this madness - but i know - a temple must be built before the storm, a code must be made before collapse, our people must find unity before we are erased’

5. Then the god of the white man returned and said "you will bow to no guilt but the guilt of not upholding my law. you will worship no pain but the pain of duty to your kin that is unfulfilled. You will bow to no other groups traume, you will smash the alters to guilt. and if you do that i will be with you.

>>515157460
>you have to be in a jewish cult to hate jews!
esaus gambit strikes again

>>515151903 (OP)
Multi-thousand years old metaphysics has no other importance than acknowledging the historically important steppingstone, and established traditional and cultural ceremonies and rituals like marriage or funerals that still has significant importance psychologically to many people, a significant component forming a civilized population in a civilized society with the focus on the important issues.
Gods, Hell, Devils, Ghosts, Angels, Saints, Priests, and Popes, are all bullshit. Like Batman, or Mickey Mouse.

>>515157500
Whatever suits the faggot that day.. his "gods" are like a couple of pants.

>>515157540
literally nobody said or did this, dishonest faggot
>>515157500
germanic. all people of europe were considered people of esau in the bible. they hate the germans just as much as the romans because they are all considered under one umbrella. you learn these things when you actually read the bible instead of waving a rosary around

>>515157604
the moment a muslim puts a knife to your neck and tells you to renounce worship of the trinity and become muslim you will comply within seconds with a weak and squeaky voice

>>515151903 (OP)
I'm not homo, simp, or feminist, and my IQ isn't low enough to be a pagan

>>515157565
>In the beginning god chose a people that were enslaved in Egypt.
read here >>515157575 I believe that everything you believe is a lie, that moses was a rejected nigger with leprosy who crafted a fanciful lie from half-baked and half-remembered egyptian mythology. I believe the jews have always been liars, swindlers and thieves; its even in the name of their patriarch jacob, 'the usurper, the swindler, the grabber of ankles'. so it appears we are at an impasse

>>515157575
>esaus gambit strikes again
Is that a cope i see with my little eye?.. it pisses you off.. doesn't it? the fact that Christians have been the dominating religion for 2000 years and it'll highly likely be for another 2000 years. This fact and the fact that it pisses you off and makes you seethe makes me laugh.

>>515157995
Did you read what i wrote? My god says guilt is a foreign god and their alters must be smashed. What do you think that means in practice? For us guilt for unfulfilled duty TO OUR OWN RACE is the only guilt we feel - all outgroup guilt is a foreign god that must be destroyed

>>515151903 (OP)
I'm a Buddhist

>>515157788
Very jewish thing to say of 'ya vile shlomo.. i don't live on the west bank or tel aviv, so i don't have to worry about that.

>>515157575
So who were the actual Canaanites?

>>515151903 (OP)
>Why aren’t you a (((pagan))) yet?
jews are filthy

paganism is liberalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orgu5nBCueQ

>The son of Soros runs jewish ukraine illegally right now
The jew wants his commie land of greater israel created, which includes ukraine
>Kek
The goyim know

>>515151903 (OP)
In these threads, people often bring up Hitler's views on Christianity. However, what I've never seen addressed is that Hitler wasn't dealing with the gigapozzed refugees welcome Zionist Christianity of today, but rather with early 20th century Lutherans, who were some of the most "based" Christians in human history. As such, it seems to me that Hitler's anti-Christianity is vastly understated given how even his own day's Christians were not good enough for him.

>>515158437
>(((Terrorism)))

>>515158130
>the dominating religion for 2000 years
and soon you will be replaced by islam, and then by both of your true masters; the jews

>>515152348
>look into mythology of the gods of ancestors
>complete and utter degeneracy
yeah, totally not demons.

>>515157247
LoL, I am in fact from a german-polish commune, but most Brazilians in this website are white, it's actually really common to be pure white in Brazil if you are not from the Amazon or Northeast.
Posting my fat arm for educational purposes, don't believe glomohomo.

>>515158437
>>515158499
>The son of Soros runs jewish ukraine illegally right now

>>515158285
memeflag spreads lies again! more news at 11

>>515158335
You missed the big one. At the start they were Habiru

To Egyptians: habiru were homeless people, wanted criminals on the run, mercenaries, robbers, goat thieves

To Habiru: they were an enslaved people in Egypt that were pursecuted for their righteousness and god led them out of slavery

It’s like their “slavery” is because they were a gypsy tier band of street criminals that kept getting thrown in prison.

Habiru i will remind you evolved to become the Hebrews.

Habiru in antiquity were EXACTLY what Romanian gypsies are today. Imagine if Romanian gypsies made a religion about how they were enslaved in Italy (when they were really jailed for being pickpockets) and you have a Jew adjacent narrative.

I love how jews spam nonsense after you expose their plans
>Kek

>>515158536

>>515156944
Is the Book of Enoch canonical?

>>515158523
>brown body hair
not white, sorry paco
>most brazilians in this website are white
doubt

>>515158508
They gotta take israel first. Christians have beaten and crusaded against the hadjii's multiple times. Not worried, also 2 more weeks untill the complete islamification of Europe.

>>515158590
only in the ethiopian church. it was removed from the jew canon and christians followed soon after

>>515158588
>>515158536
>>515158499
>>515158437
>>515158335
>jews don't want you knowing this information
>>>The son of Soros runs jewish ukraine illegally right now
The jew wants his commie land of greater israel created, which includes ukraine
>Kek
The goyim know

>>515156775
I was dragged into a LARP tavern once.
Food was decent, but even the waitress was LARPing.
It had that kind of vibe.

>>515158632
>they gotta take israel first
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
online crusader larp fantasies will never cease to amuse me. you are not getting israel back anytime soon your morons, you let the kikes get their greedy little talons on it and now they have nukes pointed at your capitol cities in you dare try to take it back from them. you christians handed the world to the jews on a silver platter and have the audacity to blame pagans and atheists

>>515158692
as if putin hasnt been to that wall too lmao. idk why some of you christfags get so riled about ukraine, as if russia isnt just as kiked as them

>>515156944
the nephilim were destroyed in the flood you utter retard.

>>515157460
>us Christians are the original antisemites
excommunicated

>>515151903 (OP)
Pagans actually believed in their gods, modern """pagans""" don't and if they say they do they need a 2 page explanation of how oden is actually a metaphor for self-respect o algo. If you don't see a thunderstorm and think "Thor's back at it again" you're not a real pagan. And if you do see a thunderstorm and think that, congrats, you're a fucking dipshit.

>>515158695
The only "LARP" i can get behind is this. It's actually based on reality and not some chad thundercock looking guy and his dad some one eyed cum swallower named oden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbk7ypiwNwc

>>515158971
I dont thing American style jew worship was part of historic Christianity but i still refuse to pretend my history is in the Middle East.

>>515158947
then how did some survive like goliath who is stated to be a nephilim in the bible?

>>515151903 (OP)
Maybe I’m a undercover pagan posing as a Christian like the holidays

You didn’t think of that did ya beta cuck s o y latte little guy

>>515152005
Wayne National Forest

>>515159081
descendants of ham.

>>515158509
Well..times were different, can't say the old testament is exactly clean.
But Loki fucking a stallion, as a mare, to delay a fucking wall is really something else, even if he is a bit demon like.

>>515158768
We could take israel tomorrow if we wanted to.. you'd be surprised what the White Man has achieved.. theres a reason you're seething, you were born with a blood curse upon you for what your people did to Jesus Christ.. that is upon you, and not me.. and you can't slander your way out of the problem. I'll let you figure it out on your own.

>>515158660
That explains why I didn't know that Nephilim lore. Also, if you want to know about Christianity in Finland (as I assume it's similar to Denmark), it's pretty funny how they're the only group openly supporting Israel. The Christian Democrats are pretty mental and will go around explicitly saying that all the goyim are subhumans who need to serve the jews :D That's why in Finland everyone regards open Christians as mentally ill.

>>515159197
You’re 100x more likely to be sodimized by arabs and see your daughter sold into slavery than you are to see Israel destroyed.

>>515159197
>We could take israel tomorrow if we wanted to..
I'm waiting

>>515159177
the old testament is flawless when you understand to background.
wiping child sacrificing half humans off the face of the earth is nothing to look down upon.

>>515156703
>comparing humans to jeets
ISHYGDDTIRL

>>515159316
The Israelites do child sacrifice in the Old Testament.

>>515153333
Yawn... have you ever read Slavic demonology book ? It's older then US and it have lot of knowledge.

>>515159197
>2 more weeks!

>>515151903 (OP)
I’d like to get into paganism but I’m not sure which pagan religion to follow. Which one is the best?

I definitely don’t think it’s Hinduism because they eat cow shit

>>515159397
yep, because they didnt eradicate these cults but adopted foreign gods and were harshly judged for it. they cry about it to this day.

>>515159436
do you think others are not as much as degenerate? they all have the same origin.

>>515151903 (OP)

Paganism = European.

but these threads really shine a light on how brown /pol/ has become.

Sad.

Shitskin entitlement makes them think they can even lead our far-right movements!

>>515159293
I got a feeling you're 100x more likely to get killed by a muslim than i am. Muslims actually believe in Jesus Christ although not as God but as a prophet.. which leads me to believe you're either a jeet or a kike.. which ultimately equates to the same thing.
>>515159313
We as Christians are spreading awarenes as of now, the muslims can surely handle some kikes in a little palestinian region. Now if the US just pulled their support that would be a perfect day.

>>515159578
In the whole thread nobody is actually saying what their holy texts are. Which paganism is the “degenerate” one?

>>515159436
The god of your ancestors is always best. My ultimate litmus test though is: do they respect freewill and do we get along?

>>515159432
I'm in no hurry.. all is in God's(Jesus Christ) time. If God wills it, it happens.

>>515159661
>We as Christians are spreading awarenes as of now
ok, so you can't do it tomorrow if you wanted to

>>515159072
I rarely see intelligent discussion in these threads, even though it's critically needed. There were historical societies which might be described as "Christian" which I admire. However, the particular historical conditions which gave rise to them cannot be feasibly recreated, so what Christianity is today and into the far future is this American Calvinism. My prediction is that this form of Christianity or true Christianity, will die in the next century, and we'll likely see movements like Mormonism and Black Hebrew Israelites take its place. I give it 30% chance that any of these post-Christian movements will be White.

>>515159622
>Paganism = European.
Memeflag = jewish.

>>515159665
lets take the most european one.
zeus fucked europa in bull form and thats where europeans came from in that mythology.
so you have straight out bestiality as a foundation for your people.
compared to the God of the bible where Japheth is one of Noahs sons who was blessed by Noah and promised to live in Shems tents, God covenant with Abraham.

>>515159498
I don't think there's ever any punishment in the Bible for the child sacrifice in Judges 11.

>>515159854
>zeus fucked europa in bull form and thats where europeans came from in that mythology
so thats why they call us MEDBVLLS

>>515159854
What is the holy text?

>>515159712
We could.. we just need the call and the mustering. Like we've done multiple times before, watch out what you ask for.. you might get your wish.

>>515157146
Because at least "Catholic" means something that anyone can point to as "Oh yes, I follow the STILL LIVING catholic church, of which the pope is the head of, and any of our beliefs are readily identifiable".
What is "pagan"?
Do you mean Greece Hellenism? The Norse Pantheon? Maybe you're Hindu. Shinto?
Not even asking for a play by play but pagan isn't a religion it's an umbrella.

>>515159875
the entire part about the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by babylon and the exile.
Isiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel are the harshest books about the judgement of God on Israel. its really fucking grim.

>>515159952
>We could..
do it then pussy
>watch out what you ask for.. you might get your wish.
ow the edge
shiver my timbers!

>>515157274
Based. Reading the OT convinced me yaweh has no honor. His family hating hippy son can fuck off too.

>>515159854
The Bible has incest rape as good but you do you.
>>515159913
Yeah Christians want to be the sissy and not the bull.

>>515159995
Nothing directly connects Jeremiah moloching his daughter to that punishment though. Are you the Turk/German mutt?

>>515159770
I prefer my religion:

1. The enemy god - the god of false liberation and world con question - the god of the first monotheism - and the god of trauma and gold who advises his people to destroy all temples and make all peoples worship his chosen people’s trauma

2. Our god- the god of covenant, duty, order, law, sanity, sanctity, purity. He insists that we must bow to no guilt but guilt of duty unfulfilled, and worship no guilt idols for they are idols to false gods. And if we are forced to worship the guilt idol we must destroy it

>>515151903 (OP)
im not into drinking seamen my man.

>>515156276
Why'd Apophis do a silly thing like that for so many thousands of years?

>>515159997
2 more weeks untill the islamification of Europe mordecai. You better not walk around in a Catholic country like spain talking all that shit.. they use to burn fuckers like you on pyres for less.

>>515159977
This is my question. People have many opinions even on paganism and i ask “what is the book’s name. Let me read it and i will understand” but nobody can name the book

>>515159913
no

>>515159932
pagans dont have holy texts.

>>515160020
>The Bible has incest rape as good but you do you.
if you are talking about Lot its not really putting that as good. the consequences are really bad.

>>515160088
>Jeremiah moloching his daughter
jeremiah wasnt even married. tf are you talking about?
>Are you the Turk/German mutt?
no, do you see me linking his infographics and posts?

>>515159977
You've put your finger on something important, which is that paganism is pluralistic, and not dogmatic like Christianity, so they really don't belong in the same category. I'd go as far as saying that paganism is a primitive form of healthy worldview, whereas Christianity is a form of pathology on a societal level.

>>515159977
and what does any of that matter? your pope is a CIA plant who fucks kids. Jesus would have hated you and called you a pharisee btw. to you, faith is about having a diploma of authenticity written out from some jew. it is not about truly believing in God, any God for that matter. you would cave and become hindu if enough societal pressure was applied to you

>>515160101
Fucking autocorrect:

1. The enemy god is the god of false liberation and world conquest who makes the world worship his chosen people’s trauma and bow to shame and guilt

2. Our god: the god of covenant, duty, order, who insists we bow to no guilt but that of unfulfilled duty and we must smash any idols to guilt - for guilt is a foreign god that must be destroyed.

>>515160138
2 more weeks until we take jerusalem, my fellow ecrusaders!
here's a reality check for you: you will do nothing, nothing will change, and if you somehow manage to muster a handful of men to do your bidding, the weight of the greatest golem the world has ever seen will crush you

>>515160233
What is a religion without a holy text?

>>515160233
>pagans dont have holy texts.
Lies. Here is just one (1)
https://sacred-texts.com/atl/olb/olb02.htm

>>515160320
It is a system of observances.

>>515160320
only the bible is Holy.

>>515160338
the bible records where pagan gods come from better than their own texts.

>>515151903 (OP)
Paganism is atheist LARPing, an attempt for those with an ounce of testosterone and intellect still left to contend with the obvious reality of the spiritual dimension without bending the knee to the admittedly corrupted and broken institutions of Christianity which have been subverted in the west

There are no actual beliefs or traditions or codified virtues beyond what’s cobbled together from ancient scraps preserved wholly by Christian scholars for thousands of years. It’s not an actual belief or religion, it’s simple rebellion against: cringe rick and Morty Reddit nihilism, and perceived ultra jewish “Christian” Zionist power structure

I was in this crowd for a long time and this is really the crux of it.

I found Orthodox Christianity and realized the truth. Christ is real but your exposure to him in most of the west has been heavily corrupted and subverted. Look into and study Orthodoxy seriously if you’re legitimately interested in the truth.

>>515160101
So you're a gnostic?
>>515160233
I mean Lot's incest rape is depicted as necessary for the survival of the holiest of holies in Christianity, the Jewish race. Also, I meant Jepthah not Jeremiah, but got the names mixed.

>>515160457
Isn’t Gnosticism Christianity?

>>515151903 (OP)
catholicism is the old pagan ways, in a different form.
i am converting asap.

>>515160264
I'm in no hurry to take jerusalem.. i'm sure the kikes will suffer immensely just by existing over there next to their enemies as promised in the NT. Sometimes it's better to let your enemy soak in it before you deliver the coup de grâce.

>>515160438
GOD is holy. The Bible is man recording his word and their interactions with him.

>>515160438
Much predates your precious jew faith.

>>515160320
the stories in the bible were handed down for millenia in the form of oral tradition before ever putting put down to letters by scribes. virtually all religions were like this at one point. enough oral traditions about paganism exist to study for a lifetime, the grimm folktales being the most well known example. much of paganism is based on nature, so its stories can be observed today. it is a living religion, not one restricted to books

>>515160525
Also I'm not saying the Bible isn't holy, it is his word and the Holy Bible. But to clarify.

>>515151903 (OP)
>2 posts by this id
>180 replies
Nobody is easier to fool than nu4chan.

>>515160508
Gnosticism explicitly rejects the fundamental basics of Christianity

Gnosticism teaches that creation and material is evil, Christianity teaches that God’s creation is fundamentally good

Gnosticism teaches that somehow we’re stuck in a soul prison that the “real God” is sealed off from, despite the fact that this is totally incoherent and nonsensical

Etc

>>515160508
It can be. My understanding is that it's pretty pluralistic. Mind you I'd advice against Christian Gnosticism, since Jesus is clearly just a sectarian Pharisee meaning that you'll become schizophrenic trying to reconcile Christianity with Gnosis.

>>515160381
a noticing of patterns, if you will

>>515151903 (OP)
Because only jeets are pagan.

>>515160666
get thee hence satan!

but i would argue there is some overlap between the two. why for example does the new testament call satan 'the god of this world'?

>>515160457
Lot isnt even in the line of Israel and his descendants are not put in a good light. they were their own people.

>>515160457
>Jepthah
he most likely adopted the customs from other tribes who did child sacrifice in the region. also the Lord never told him to do it. the whole "I will sacrifice whatever greats me first" is fucking retarded in the first place. dont make stupid vows like that.

>>515160666
>Those digits
That's it. I'm now a gnostic.
Fuck you Satan

>>515160750
there are more christians in india than there are pagans in the west. statistically, it is more likely that the christian posters are the jeets

>>515160525
the bible is Holy Spirit inspired who is also God. so there is that.
no other way the written Word would survive for that long otherwise.

>>515160549
>let me tell you about your history
ticking this one off the meme box

>>515160666
>incoherent and nonsensical
Says the hylic. Here is the version for tards.

And the version for refined gentle men:
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https://files.catbox.moe/3lcx6i.png

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>Part_IV_-_The_Racial_Soul.png 1.3 MB
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>Part_V_-_The_European_Awakening.png 1.5 MB
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>>515160770
Satan is an illusionist; a trickster

The greatest illusion/trick that Satan manifests is death

Death is not real. Christ demonstrated this which is why so many were able to martyr themselves willingly. Human souls are eternal, there is never a point where a human soul ceases to be. Death is a result of and the source of sin.

In this “world” where death appears to be a reality, Satan compels humans to evil through our fear of death. Through divine revelation Christ is able to make the faithful realize that this fear is a trick. But those who are doubtful and maintain their great fear of their physical demise as being synonymous with their soul death are thus compelled to act in accordance and sin. So in this sense Satan rules over those who cannot shake the illusion of death and the grip it holds on their soul.

>>515151903 (OP)
Many reasons
1. Pagan is a biblical name for the religion of Canaan.
2. Little is know of the reconstructed Norse Religion.
3. Norse religion like Roman was likely a collection of tribal Gods, possibly ancestors with little attention paid to authentic truth but rather just custom and heresy.
4. The religion of Norse mystics was more like druidism or shamanism.
5. The modern paganism is not a religion anyone b lives is true but a larp hoping to supplant a religion many have does for
6. Paganism can not engulf the hearts of the masses like christianity can.
7. Less than a fraction of 1% of people call themselves pagan, a reformed church is more practical.
8. Shifting all this nonsense on the idea of a Jewish Christmas can be debunk in multiple ways which is far more practical than complete transformation into paganism.
7. Oer Linda books takes one straight back to Zoroastrian monotheism which is the origin of Judaism and Christianity. Abraham was conferred the priesthood by a Zoroastrian priest magi.
8. Worshiping trees and elves opens us up to ridicule. And the movement.
9. Pagans have secretly dominated nationwide movements for decades and held us back with their nonsense ideas not grounded in reality and thus the fault of nationalism is paganism.
10. I could go on, it's silly and holds us back. There ultimately bad for the peace among our ranks and a force for disunity

>>515160776
Without Lot and the Moabites you don't get David or Jesus. Also if yahweh didn't approve of what Jepthah did he could have stopped it at any moment. Furthermore, the Bible is likely censored to hide the Israelites doing way more moloching.

>>515160776
but if Yahweh was so against child sacrifice why would he allow it all? why not just say to jepthah 'whoa settle down there bro, dont actually kill the kid. just sacrifice a goat or something and we'll call it even'. he was perfectly within his power to. why does an omnipotent god even need 'sacrifices' anyways? the logic for a sacrifice makes sense in pagan religion; ancestor spirits are hungry because theyre dead, lets feed ancestor spirits with sacrifices of bread and meat or whatever. Goat is sacred to Thor; lets sacrifice Goat to Thor so he has more Goats in Valhalla or whatever. what is the internal logic for god needing goat entrails and blood? Leviticus never explained this

>>515157247
>>515157457

>>515160879
>the snake is the good guy
lmao
thats the most braindead version of gnosticism

>>515151903 (OP)
Any kind of yuro paganism is new age larp (except for Ossetian and Mari paganism which have an uninterrupted tradition going back into antiquity, but none of you soft westoids are going to convert to Assianism or Čimarii jüla).

>>515151903 (OP)
I don’t need to worship things
That is because Im not a retard
Yeah it feels amazing

>>515160166
The reason I specified "still living" is because many religions didn't have written texts to read, like the Celtic Druids. But, as their practitioners died out, the practices largely went with them.

>>515160245
I think you would be wrong to go that far, and it follows by logical reasoning.
Aphrodite is the goddess of love, and from what I remember (and I could be wrong I'll admit), she never really cared for the form it took. She was known for many affairs and adulteries. That's whatever when the scale is pretty small like a rural village, but as things and society gets more enmeshed you can't really "allow" that sort of thing on a human level because it fucks with societal structure. So any "god" allowing or encouraging that would be forced to lose favor if only by the "gods" that enforce law and order and stability and etc.
And once you start enforcing a level of (human) control over "love", then all of a sudden Aphrodite's realm overlaps very much so with Hera's realm of "marriage".
And yeah I know every god had multiple realms but you get my point.
What does Christianity really "pathologize" outside of the realm of spirituality? Don't cheat, lie, steal, murder? Don't bear false witness, don't envy your neighbor? Those really don't seem like things that are bad to pathologize.
>Humans take it too far!
I can show you every other religion where humans do the same, that's a human failing then and not that of the religion.

>>515160259
>you would cave [...] if enough social pressure was applied to you
Yeah sorry I just never took the covid shot hahaha.
faggot.
Yet another post where you don't actually promote any belief or way or life, you just attack Christianity. Telling.

>>515160822
Actually there's likely way more pagans in the West than officially counted. For example, in Finland more people do sacrifices to house spirits than attend church.

>>515160263
Canadian Tyr worshipper. You love to see it.

>>515161080
I did say that was the short version for tards.

>>515151903 (OP)
Because salvation comes from Christ, our lord and savior.
The sooner you drop your little larp, the faster you can be saved.
Christ is King

>>515151903 (OP)
I'd say that I am but I think that's a silly word to use. It's like calling yourself a goy. Framing yourself the way jews would frame you cringe as fuck.

>>515161179
Aeons rule in the Pleroma (realms of absolute light). The Archons rule in the Kenoma (realm of relative light)

>>515161042
>the Bible is likely censored to hide the Israelites doing way more moloching
idk, the entire OT is israel disobeying God and doing the exact opposite of what he told them to do.
weird you would record your history and people in such a bad light when every other civilization swept all their shortcomings under the rug.
if you come out of the bible and think the israelites were some special good people you are fucking retarded, even the biggest names are fuck ups in some way or the other.

>>515160560
The zen tradition literally throws holy scripts through the air to remind word nerds that the wisdom is out in the world and the written teaching is imperfect attemot at passing it on. It's based. Wordcels btfo

>>515161159
Libshit atheists are not pagans.

>>515161259
>It's like calling yourself a goy
I do mostly agree.

>>515160666
I dont have a conceptions like that. I believe in Confucian style tribe and ancestor worship and covenant all faith in god for his protection and a vow to smash the guilt idol whenever i come across it. If it is too dangerous to smash (such as a holocaust museum) i must spit on the ground and reject it mentally.

>>515151903 (OP)
It's funny how pagans say Christianity leads to weakness when they were dominated by Christians and their faith ceased to exist hundreds of years ago

>>515160666
>Gnosticism teaches that somehow we’re stuck in a soul prison that the “real God” is sealed off from, despite the fact that this is totally incoherent and nonsensical
Christianity readily teaches that Satan has "control" over the world insofar as to lead people into temptation and sin, it's not that schizo.
But they also teach that God can intervene when he chooses to so he's not sealed off. Then again gnosticism teaches that man can reach out to / connect to God / Wisdom so it's not that much of a certainty either.
But yeah the Church did declare gnosticism as a heresy and they largely died out as a result.

>>515161295
Reminder that Protestants use the Masoretic Text, which is the same version of the Old Testament used by Rabbinic Jews. This is a medieval era modification of the original Greek Septuagint from ~250 BC used in Orthodox Churches, which cuts out and botches a ton of stuff and introduces a ton of logical inconsistencies (eg according to the Masoretic text Shem and Abraham are both alive at the same time) for the purpose of advancing the Rabbinic Jew rejection of Christ

>>515161384
Watch out.. they'll just call you a jew worshipper.

>>515161165
No different god.

>>515161098
Russian religion today is multipolarity

>>515161046
>the logic for a sacrifice makes sense in pagan religion
>ancestor spirits are hungry because theyre dead
wtf even is that logic, they are dead.
>why does an omnipotent god even need 'sacrifices' anyways?
sin results in death. so unless all humanity dies eternally he established animal sacrifice for atonement of sins until Jesus Christ his Son and the Lamb of God was slain for all of human sin on the cross so humans are saved from the 2nd death of the soul.

>>515161150
I mean the pathological nature of Christianity is pretty clear if you take a step back and observe it from afar. What is the core message of the Gospels? Beyond love or sacrifice, it is about rejecting one's own rational faculties and rejecting skepticism, and self-hatred. I'm sure you've heard of the various Christian groups and saints which practiced self castration as a way to get closer to God. What you'll notice with pretty much every Christian group is that the less Christian they are the better they are. That's why Calvinist Puritans are the absolute worst and they spawned the modern day US, as they wanted to have a religion as close to the creed of the Apostles as possible.

Jews never tell the whole of it. Aryans do. Jews wish the student held back, the Aryan hopes they surpass the teacher.

>>515161159
I would not consider that pagan in and of itself. My grandparents make certain meals on the New Year, which is pagan in tradition. But I would not call them that by religion because they do not honor any of those beings.

>>515154590
>tries to say a guy that is relative to jesus influence
>posts a fucking germanic god that barely has a wikipedia page and is irrelevant

>>515161179
>muh hecking goddess
lmao, even the bible has a better version of Sophia.
gnosticism is corruption of the word of god, been there done that. its full on satanic.

>>515156855
>>515153333

Every time someone explains their beliefs they end up ignored.

The gods are aspects of the laws of nature or collectives above the individual. They influence you at all times, from birth to death. They are presented as human characters because those with limited understanding would be unable to comprehend their existence without someone superior holding their hand and explaining every step to understanding divinity, as if you were a young child.
They are key to understanding concepts such as good, evil, morality in general, as well as the meaning of life and existence. Sadly, the mental degeneration of the common man is so prevalent that even these explanations are insufficient to bring you to a state of awareness. This mental degeneration and spiritual domestication is the number one reason for the state of our world.

As such we are fighting a spiritual battle for the awakening of the European peoples. A spiritual battle is about providing a moral framework that is beneficial to their survival, informing people of the steps ahead and priming them emotionally so that they can motivate themselves to step forward.

>One may be repelled by this law of nature which demands that all living things should mutually devour one another. The fly is snapped up by a dragon-fly, which itself is swallowed by a bird, which itself falls victim to a larger bird. This last, as it grows old, becomes a prey to microbes, which end by getting the better of it. These microbes, in their turn, find their predestined ends.”-AH

>It is useful to know the laws of nature - for that enables us to obey them. To act otherwise would be to rise in revolt against heaven. - AH

https://ourchan DOT org/pol/thread/16434.html

>>515161577
>irrelevant
settle down there, 'man'. thats your great grandpa. assuming you are white

>>515161539
How religious are old world mennonites? I’m fascinated by them - they basically scatter around the world constantly building new villages. Do they really read the bible or are they more into the farming culture rather than the text of the bible?

>>515161417
I am well aware of the masoretic texts. you can rad the septuagint as easily as the bible online, so suit yourself.

>>515161571
To me, it matters far more what day to day activities one does than what one calls himself.

>>515161539
>Calvinist Puritans

lol what? How are these the “most Christian”? Protestant heretic sects with zero apostolic succession that arose 1500 years after Christ and use the Rabbinic Jew version of the Old Testament are extremely heretical and not a part of the Christian Church.

>it’s about rejecting rationality and skepticism and like hating yourself

How so? Christianity is pretty explicitly pro science and empirical study. There is no woo woo pagan bullshit where ancestor trees or sacred grounds make it impossible to conduct scientific study or experimentation. Christian intellectuals during the Roman Empire were extremely well educated and often dominated philosophical debates and schools which is why the Imperial Court was full of Christians by 300 AD.

I align with Brigid and Lugh from Celtic spiritual heritage, but I consider JQ answering Christians my ally. I don't think it's ideal however, and what's going on in Korea right now is a great example of that. South Korea was seeded with Protestantism, and now jews are activating it. Zionism is taking off there right now, as jews see the writing in the wall. Koreans are waving stars of David around everywhere because they think that's what you do if you're Christian.

That said, this is more a problem with mainstream Protestantism than it is Catholicism or the Orthodox. Tho modern Catholicism seems just as subversive as mainstream Protestantism.

>>515155205
Isnt that in UK?

>>515161695
Seems most pagan beliefs come from politics. Rare to meet a neopagan who is not already ethnonationalist first. There is not really lasting power there because you will just leave the beliefs once the politics are achieved. Would most neopagans even be one if not for immigration issues? Probably not.

>>515151903 (OP)
My people's gods would want us to take control and murder them once in a time of advancement and plenty, not worship them.

>>515161753
I don't know much about the Amish. I don't think they can ever function as a majority in a state, and it's likely that being surrounded by other Protestant Christians is the only substrate in which they can grow.

>>515151903 (OP)
Because the shit is retarded and was debunked 2000 years ago. There’s no “pagan” alive that even practices the shit their ancestors supposedly did, because none of it was written down. It’s a clown show

The thought of afterlife may be reason enough not to believe in any sort of religion or religion-like thingy.

One life is enough to know it's pretty shit and dfinetely not worth doing all over again, or even worse, to live forever in some afterlife nothing like the world you live in.

even Hitler said that paganism is cringe as fuck

>>515151903 (OP)
Because I'm not a kike or kike in denial (atheist).

>>515158979
This. Paganism is really the religion of your land, so it could be explained away.
I’m not a pagan but I’d rather people were pagan than christcucks. At least the fucking sun serves a purpose unlike kikes

>>515161767
I know, I’m just explaining why some may lack the context of just how much the Old Testament actually rebukes jews even in ancient times. It surprised me when I first started studying it because literally the whole Old Testament consists of:

>jews act evil
>a prophet comes along to try to get them to stop and change their ways
>they torture/murder the prophet
>they get punished
>most of them die out and some are reconciled to eventually allow Jesus Christ to raise and fulfill the prophecies

At no point in the Old Testament is anything resembling Zionism or Jews being these magical superior people ever once elucidated. There are tons of instances in the Old Testament of non jews being high priests of God and virtuous and of jews being incredibly evil and spiteful. The Talmud was created because of modern Rabbinic Judaism coping hardcore for thousands of pages about how actually this wasn’t the case.

>>515151903 (OP)
Weak satanic religions of subjugated villagers. Everybody except Jews should become a dissociative atheist worshiping the material world performing rituals? I’ll stick with praying believing trusting in god who asks for nothing but a life of striving to better ourselves in his son’s image.

>>515152048
>yahweh
>literal storm god with tranny "wife" from moloch pantheon
>I dont worship demons
Anon..

>>515161895
I said old world mennonites not Amish. Different groups. Old world mennonites are currently spreading through Africa.

>>515161901
>[1] Ares, exceeding in strength, chariot-rider, golden-helmed, doughty in heart, shield-bearer, Saviour of cities, harnessed in bronze, strong of arm, unwearying, mighty with the spear, O defence of Olympus, father of warlike Victory, ally of Themis, [5] stern governor of the rebellious, leader of righteous men, sceptred King of manliness, who whirl your fiery sphere among the planets in their sevenfold courses through the aether wherein your blazing steeds ever bear you above the third firmament of heaven; hear me, helper of men, giver of dauntless youth! [10] Shed down a kindly ray from above upon my life, and strength of war, that I may be able to drive away bitter cowardice from my head and crush down the deceitful impulses of my soul. Restrain also the keen fury of my heart which provokes me to tread [15] the ways of blood-curdling strife. Rather, O blessed one, give you me boldness to abide within the harmless laws of peace, avoiding strife and hatred and the violent fiends of death.
>'none of it was written down'
why do jews like you try to deny that white history exists? next youll be telling us the hellens were all blacks

>>515161977
Jews do serve a purpose, to test the immune system. That you fail is not the fault of "Christcucks" or anyone else.

>>515161716
Do you guys really believe in these shitty gods that stopped being relevant thousands of years ago?

>>515161539
>I'm sure you've heard of the various Christian groups and saints which practiced self castration as a way to get closer to God.
This is the perfect example of what I was arguing.

>The first castrati entered the Sistine Chapel Choir in the late sixteenth century. They quickly became a staple of church choirs throughout Italy, particularly in the Papal States. The Catholic Church’s employment of castrati ran counter to canon law, which forbade the deliberate amputation of body parts except in the case of medical emergencies, but the popularity and skill of castrati singers was such that their existence was rationalized as a means of glorifying God through music.
You have the actual religion tenets and then humans purposefully ignoring them because [reasons]. That's not a practice of the religion, that's a failing of humans.
If a priest steals or kills someone, that's his personal failing rather than a faithful practice of the religion. This isn't even something that's open for interpretation it's explicitly forbidden.

>>515152048
I don't worship demons either. I worship Apollo, Aphrodite, Helios, Mars, and Athena.

>>515151903 (OP)
Because there is no jew to tell me what to believe in so that I may whorship him.

>>515162184
How do you worship them?

Do you literally believe these beings are real? Do you believe they’re fundamental entities to the universe or products of collective human consciousness or something?

>>515161524
>sin results in death. so unless all humanity dies eternally he established animal sacrifice for atonement of sins until Jesus Christ his Son and the Lamb of God was slain for all of human sin on the cross so humans are saved from the 2nd death of the soul.
yeah that makes no sense senpai. I shall now go throw coins into a well to appease the troll that lives in there

>>515153333
>Pagans never say what they believe
This is a fair point. It's because it's not a rigid book of standards and rulesets. There are basic tenants like honor being the most important thing there is in life. However, rigidity is a central aspect as well -- it's just more individual. In Celtic spiritualism, you get various geis, which are basically mandates for you to not stray from. Christians would call theae personal convictions from God. And if you stray from the convictions you've been given, disorder can happen, or worse. But if you're aligned in your geis, life can be smooth and prosperous.

>>515161666
>Everything I don't like is SaTaN!!!!111
All those Eloheim/Adamic 'gods' can go fuck themselves, YWHW & Lucifer/Satan included.

You're losing.

>>515159770
Unfortunately christcuckery plays into the narcissist aspect
“Made in the image of god” and such
People like to be told that, so I don’t think it’s going to disappear
Maybe whites are smart enough to free themselves not that they’re all literate

>>515162111
>irrelevant
whats tomorrow again anon? how come they still call it 'Sun'day and not Jesusday?

>>515162000
take it to the time of Jesus, he only commended the greco phonetician women and the roman centurion for their faith, not israel once. or when he healed the lepers and only the gentiles came back to him and thanked him.
I think he had to come to a people that so utterly rejected him because all other gentile nations wouldve realized that he is God incarnate and worshiped him.

>>515162184
Seeing how “paganism” means an infinite number of unrelated religions, i wonder if Hinduism basically was a Jew subversion to create hundreds of vaguely connected religions in India that prevent unity.

>>515162273
if that helps you.

>>515162300
God wins in the end. how retarded have you be to bet on the losing side.

>>515162264
what do you mean is Mars real? go look out the window when it gets dark nigga

>>515161784
For an outside observer it's pretty clear that Catholicism lifts a lot from Roman paganism and heretical sects like Pelagianism. I'm not really interested in relitigating arguments anyone can hear by googling "Protestant apologetics against Catholicism". But about the rationality, does Jesus provide rational reasons for worshiping him? No, it's very clearly stated in passages like Mark 11:22-24 that faith without evidence is most important. Also about imperial courts, Celcus famously remarks that Christians have a rule to never debate educated men since they'd lose.

>>515162078
>why do jews like you try to deny that white history exists?
They lie as easily as a fish swims.

>>515161848
You think this a legitimate argument against paganism, yet in order to win we must first win in the spiritual realm. The reason most pagans are ethnonationalist is the same reason Christians welcome the world. Paganism is a deliberate removal of an attempt at global universalism among all races and peoples. Your politics will be reflected in your spiritual nature because they are both based on a personal valuation of the world. As such, white pagans want both in the world and in their religion to be apart from foreign influences, which Christianity is not. Don't get me wrong, many of my friends are Christian and based, but I have a distinct inkling that they are having to walk a delicate balance in their minds to achieve this.

The Bible even endorses “paganism”.

The Bible itself says that “the Most High” or the chief god (who was El in the Israelite pantheon) made a nation for each lesser diety who were his sons and that YHWH was one of these sons of the Most High. YHWH’s people were descended from Jacob (or Israel). In other words, the Bible says that each nation was appointed a diety, so if you’re not a Levantine sandnigger, YHWH is not your personal god. If you’re European, El did not appoint YHWH as your god. Septuagint variants and the Dead Sea Scrolls attest to this fact. The jewish Masoretic Text tried to hide this, because judaism has become a YHWH world domination cult.

Deuteronomy 32
8.
>When Elyon bequeathed the nations as an inheritance,
>when he separated the sons of Adam,
>he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of Elohim[5-9].
9.
>For YHWH’s portion was his people;
>Jacob was the lot of his inheritance.

4Q37 Deut
http://dssenglishbible.com/scroll4Q37.htm
https://archive.is/LMlYp

>>515162074
Huh, I didn't know Old Order and Old World Mennonites were different. I don't really know much about them.

>>515161936
When did he say that? Before or after he put this on every flag in Germany? Before or after he styled everything after pre-Christian Rome?

>>515161482
Interesting. Who is it?

>>515162438
You’re the Finnish kike aren’t you? Funnily enough the only catholic that makes me consider Christianity is an ex-kike YouTuber that embraces not just Catholicism but all of western civilization

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3AAFZx3caM&pp=ygUgT2YgYmVhdXR5IGNvbnZlcnNpb24gdG8gY2F0aG9saWPSBwkJsgkBhyohjO8%3D

>>515162368
indians problems stem from race mixing; the million different traditions of hinduism are a result of trying to compromise dravidian and aryan traditions, along with the 20 other civilizations that invaded and ran a train on india at some point in their history. seriously, look up the list of cultures that have invaded india, i guarantee you probably havent even heard of some of them. im sure jews or proto-jews were probably in there somewhere at some point, but the main problem is that you have 50 different races living together in one shitty subcontinent
picrel, a wealth indian jewish merchant than ran much of the opium trade in china and the east indies. so there have been jews in india for a long time, that is true

>>515161539
>What you'll notice with pretty much every Christian group is that the less Christian they are the better they are.
In fact that's the exact opposite of the truth as I pointed out in my earlier post.
Christianity says no female priests, no homosexual (activity, being a non-active gay is your own struggle and not explicitly banned).
And yet the denominations with the actively gay female priests are the worse offenders advocating for open borders and hosting muslim prayers in their churches and blah blah you get the idea.

Peope idolize America and Europe of the renaissance and even as far back as a mere 200 years ago not realizing that that was a heavily Christian era of the west.

>>515162529
>the Bible says that each nation was appointed a diety
that was as punishment, not an endorsement. humans rebelled against God and wanted to ascend heaven to kill him at Babel.
he gave all other nations over to satan except abraham and his descendants.

>>515162124
Matthew 19:12, and Origen famously castrated himself. Christianity and castration go all the way back.

>>515162438
Orthodox, not Catholic.

>Also about imperial courts, Celcus famously remarks that Christians have a rule to never debate educated men since they'd lose.

Celcus was literally a pagan coper. The only reason we even know he said this is because all that survives of his works are taken from Origen’s Christian apologetic refutation and debate over what he said. Awful example. Plenty of Christians debated heavily and engaged in philosophical discourse throughout their time in the Roman Empire, that’s how educated Emperors ended up amongst the earliest converts.

>>515151903 (OP)
You have seen "pagans" right? Who would want to be associated with that absolute cringe inducing LARP?

>>515162535
No i meant old order - but i also meant that old order Mennonites and Amish are not the same thing.

>>515162555
Definitely before he lost and got the German people ethnically cleansed from beyond the Oder.

>>515162437
This faggot worships a barren rock in space. Elon is that you?

>>515162608
*******

>>515162264
>How do you worship them?
Here is a good start:
https://archive.org/details/b28775430/page/n7/mode/2up
>TO PALLAS (ATHENA).

ONLY-Begotten, noble race of Jove,
Blessed and fierce, who joy'st in caves to rove:

O, warlike Pallas, whose illustrious kind,
Ineffable and effable we find:
Magnanimous and senpai'd, the rocky height,
And groves, and shady mountains thee delight:
In arms rejoicing, who with Furies dire
And wild, the souls of mortals dost inspire.
Gymnastic virgin of terrific mind,
Dire Gorgons bane, unmarried, blessed, kind:
Mother of arts, imperious; understood,
Rage to the wicked., wisdom to the good:
Female and male, the arts of war are thine,
Fanatic, much-form'd dragoness, divine:
O'er the Phlegrean giants rous'd to ire,
Thy coursers driving, with destruction dire.

Sprung from the head of Jove, of splendid mien,
Purger of evils, all-victorious queen.
Hear me, O Goddess, when to thee I pray,
With supplicating voice both night and day,

And in my latest hour, peace and health,
Propitious times, and necessary wealth,
And, ever present, be thy vot'ries aid,
O, much implor'd, art's parent, blue eyed maid.

Yes of course they are real, some are planets, some are asteroids (physically) and then you have the subtle/soul.

>>515162324
Low intelligence Whites are quite likelier to race mix.

>>515162672
>Origen

Is not considered a Church father. He did Christian apologetics but had a non canon, mixed understanding of the scripture that differed from the Church fathers and eventual councils.

>>515162657
That's just exegesis. The Bible clearly states that Yahweh was given the lot of Jacob's bloodline. And that Yahweh was just one of many gods the almighty created. If it is okay to worship Yahweh for Jacob's bloodline, then it is okay for somebody of another bloodline to worship the god El created for him.

>>515162368
Hinduism is basically the work of racial mischlings to maintain the ancient syncretized religion of Aryans who invaded and conquered them 2500 years ago. Yamnaya/Sintashta link, chariots over the Hindu Kush. It is already thoroughly adapted to the local and regional figures of that people and as such is not meant for western white men, even though it could be put under the umbrella of "pagan." If you want white pagan religions, just go to a Greek temple, go to Roman revivalist pagan services, or go find a odinshof and reconnect.

This quote in essence is why Jews and crypto kikes are so unhealthy compared of the Aryan.

>>515162524
There is no belief in these things though. Most when pressed, will admit their atheism. Even Varg Vikernes got to this point. Like I said, this is all a reaction to immigration. There were virtually no White Americans pushing for conversion to Asatru in the 1700s, and there's a reason for that.

>>515156944
>do you retards read
>greeks, romans and hitties (aryans) are nephilim
>nephilim taught art, tech and writing to aryans
>aryans are evil because those are forbidden to mankind
????? You must be jewish af do you have an egg shaped penis?

>>515160508
There were Christian sects of gnosticism, but it is older and stems from Platonic Greek thought

>>515156656
Im aware it takes a while to form but that did not dissuade me from thinking they used it. before there was a silk road they had what they called the 'amber road' from trading so much of it. crystals take thousands of years to form and humans still been utilizing them since before recorded history

anyways i googled it and you're right, they used a resin of sorts for embalming heads, not amber

and to further defend my logic, his white hair made me think of Julius Caesar who writes in his own words about the Helvetii tribe(now modern day switzerland) who washed their hair with quicklime and chalk, causing it to be pitch white, the entire tribe (tens of thousands of people in clans come together to form the tribe)

thats also a 9-10th century sword design with a carolingian pommel

but yes, I guess thats just a slav pole and an old man, just defending my initial thought process, it wasn't entirely blind guess work

>>515162826
that's not even Goebbels in pic related, anon.

>>515162264
If you want to know more literally watch a Survive the Jive video or the Golden one and they will explain it, but we believe that those gods are coeternal entities with the universe.

>>515162717
that barren rock will be there long after you are dead, your lineage is eliminated, and your god is forgotten to the oceans of time. Praise unto thee, Uranus, Lord of the Heavens, First King of the Skies

>>515162849
Correct. It’s an understandable tantrum by whites cut off from the True Church but who still lack spiritual understanding as a result.

>>515162797
Correction, he was a church father, then they newly formed council of Nicea decided it was easier to sell people the religion is reincarnation didn't exist, so they removed him and all those who had 'unsanctioned' beliefs about God.

>>515155747

Who do you need specific beliefs? Why do you need spirituality to be spoon-fed to you? Are you a child?

>>515162785
You are a kike aren’t you?

>>515162799
only God can position other gods over nations, and that is he God of abraham. he is the supreme and most high. nobody else has that power.

>>515162921
So you believe the material universe is eternal? Had no starting point?

>>515162914
do you think he knows that?

>>515162950
>he was a church father but he wasn’t because the church never accepted him as a church father but he still was one

Uh, yeah I guess if you want to put it that way.

>>515162937
>that barren rock will be there long after you are dead
Doesn't mean i should worship it.. why would i worship a creation of my creator and not the creator himself.

>>515162937
paganism is just looney tunes

>>515162849
It's fine, because everything changes in time. That's my answer, that you think the sudden conversion of millions (and it is millions) of whites to hereditary pagan religions is unusual and unnatural, but it is in reaction to the conditions of the time. But this does not actually delegitimize their belief in it. If anything, it shows that the predominant religion of the land was insufficient to provide for changing conditions and has been selected for removal.

>>515163006
The issue is you confuse Yahweh with the Almighty. But it's not your fault since this was purposely done in later versions of Torah, after the Dead Sea scrolls, when Abrahamism became a world domination cult.

>>515163009
This just shows your ignorance of pagan cosmology. Even the ancient Greeks had a starting point for how they believed the universe was created. It is from the Greeks that we get the word Cosmos.

>>515162937
I mean, if humanity dies that rock wont be called Mars anymore...

>>515163071
Before some people 'consildated power' (read: killed all the other pious that they didn't like) there was no 'office of the word of God' just a collection of teachings. It was a very unchristlike way to start off the Catholic church.

He was a church father of the previous Christian body (church).

>>515162628
As far as I know I don't have any jewish ancestry. Also no such thing as ex-jew.
>>515162652
Even the more conservative no gays no women preachers denominations are pro immigration and if anything more Zionist. Also, human depravity and inability to not sin is kind of a central theme of Christianity, so if anything having gay priests is more Christian. Good that you bring up the renaissance and early modern period. I'd certainly much rather have 17th century Lutherans than any American Christianity, and the former were extremely secular and had strong elements of crypto-paganism. Where do you think the Swedes got the idea that dying in battle grants automatic access to heaven?

>>515163146
There is not a sudden conversion of millions. You are a small minority even in the right side of politics, and most of you are atheists in all practical matters. Once immigration is solved, you'll just go back to following Dawkins or whomever the next great secular prophet is.

>>515163288
Who are you to define who can and cant be an ex-Jew? Judaism is a religion and you can leave if you want to.

>>515163202
"I am that I am" is way more sovereign than "i am god of storms/the underworld/fertility etc".

>>515163039

I'm sure Christians don't believe that Jews are God's chosen people (not considering the retarded ones).

>>515163006
This right here is why I am not Christian. And other things, but this. No religion which claims universal truth is something I will belong to. Platonists and Neoplatonists can fuck right off.

>>515162095
So you worship a virus? Why?
And besides what’s with the worshipping?
Just have self respect and value yourself, the people in your life.
Sometimes I think I must be missing something. Why a fucking Jew of all people?

>>515163367
You clearly do not understand the definition of Sovereign.

>>515163244
I’m just taking from what you yourself stated:
>coeternal entities with the universe.

If the entities are “coeternal” with the universe, the universe is thus also eternal no?

Plato explicitly rejected the Greek/Roman pantheon conception of deities so not sure why you’re melding them together unless you just like the aesthetic concept of the pantheon

>>515163247
who cares? I dont call him Mars in my prayers either. rename the planet michael if you like; it will still be the god of war and blood until the end of time

>>515162958
the person i replied to said "Pagans never define any specific beliefs."

and there are over a hundred different religions that fall under the pagan umbrella so I was asking him which pagans.

if you read his and then mine and still replied like that then go ahead and stop right now, you're too stupid to interact with me in any meaningful way....I mean I had to spoon feed you our extremely basic conversation and part of me thinks you somehow someway might still be confused.

>>515163333
What in the god damn...

>>515163412
Again, you had little belief to begin with and are only following a political movement. Once the migrants are deported, these conversations will end as quickly as they started.

>>515162826
This board may not be for you anon

>>515162691
I know less about Eastern Orthodoxy, but let's be real here, today Orthodoxy (and even Catholicism) are just branches of Calvinism.
>>515162797
He's still an extremely early and important Christian figure.
>>515162969
What makes you think that?

>>515163502
Irminsul utop sonneschwarz

>>515163411
nietzsche was a total fraud and a jew

>>515163437
God is sovereign and self existent. he couldve gone on doing whatever he wants instead of dealing with humanity to the point of giving his only begotten Son for us. but he didnt.
knowing and fearing God is knowing he could end all of this with a single thought.

>>515163582
Didn’t you say white people are stupid? And you have an autistic understanding of bible verses even though you’re a non-Christian which is very kikey

>>515163334
No, what I'm referring to is that the numbers of self-identified pagans have grown from the year 2000 to now by an order of millions. I do not claim numerical supremacy over a religion which has had 2000 years to worm its way into the fabric of our civilization, but I am very well aware that in the most dire moment of our race, that it is natural to desire a return to the older forms of culture, to "rediscover" them so to speak. You think we're all atheists pretending to believe in something, but what your flawed premise cannot account for is that this is what pagans said about the early Christians, that they were atheists. Now, 2000 years later, on the other side of the coin, this epithet with which you casually brand opponents of your faith falls just as flat amidst the clamour of those who want very dearly to save our race and reclaim our place in the sun.

Which we will, no matter who gets in our way. We will shove them all aside.

>>515152048
>Literally worships jews
Lmao

>>515163635
lmao, lmao even.

>>515163677
he wasnt lying, highest rates of racemixing among whites are low income and low IQ.

>>515163559
I've been here over 20 years, maybe this is not for you.
http://odinsvolk.ca/fylfot.htm

>>515151903 (OP)
Because gods aren't real. They're more than welcome to pop up and show themselves to us but until that happens, i won't believe in them.

>>515163752
Is this in Finland? Isn’t Finland mostly “white” and how are we defining white?

>>515156632
You should know what pagan means. Your ancestors invented the term to stigmatize the Romans in the rural areas who remained true to the old gods as the cosmopolitan Christ-followers abandoned the very spirit of Rome. Are you not aware of your own history?

>>515163362
It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>515162691
Also just to be clear about my point. It doesn't matter if Calvinism or Orthodoxy or whatever is the non heretical branch. If you are a Christian in a post WW2 World you're a Puritan Calvinist and any attempt to escape that within the Christian framework will just end up colonizing whatever branch you call yourself with Puritan Calvinism, and that's how we get Orthodox Christianity being just another Protestant branch.

>>515163690
The noticing will continue until moral improves.

>>515163690
You would not do any of it, because it is all just a reaction to migration. Once you get the politics you want, the religion will melt away as fast as it arrived. Had you grown up in the 1950s, a much more conservative, white society, you would never consider these things. And people who live in these communities today, also do not consider them.

>>515163690
>millions
yeah buddy you dont exist outside of /pol, go touch grass or smt

>>515163677
You REALLY need to work on your reading comprehension.

>>515163455
I don't hate Christians, but my Christian friends would all dwarf these pathetic fish people in terms of IQ. I have had far better conversations with them than with these anons, who obviously never cracked a book, bothered learning anything. They're all bad faith and deliberately sloppy rhetoricians who are incapable of critical thought. It's embarassing.

>>515163909
Fuckin' kek.. I'm sure Hitler is very proud of you anon.

>>515163857
Scottish people invented the term pagan? Anyway, i dont consider paganism a living tradition since we came to Canada as Protestant Christian’s.

>>515163508
I want the immigrants out because they look, act, speak in a very different way.
This is true for almost every LIFE FORM, and they sure don’t think about politics.
This tendency to hide every vital impulse behind an ideology/religion is the cuckest thing ever and the Jews invented it.
And by the way it’s used everyday to import brown christians

>>515163990
This is demonstrably false given all available statistics and polls conducted over the past few decades. I don't really give a shit if you can't read. I am right and you are pathetic LMAOO

>>515164070
Oh, so you don't consider yourself a spiritual descendant of the first Christians? Are you even Christian?

>>515164167
I[‘m descended from Scottish protestants but i am no longer Christian.

>>515163942
You keep saying that, but again, dogmatic phrases repeatedly uttered for verbal or literal effect do not make an argument. What you're doing is speculating, but it doesn't go much further that that. You never made a point, so anyway, I'll continue on trouncing the rest of you in this thread with ease.

>>515164283
Oh, what are you, if you don't mind me asking?

>>515164132
Most of these pagans are probably gypsies and left-wing people who saw herbalists' edits about magic on TikTok. Accept that only Christianity will have relevance in the West for the next hundred years

>>515164330
I believe the world is ruled by a people whose trauma is holy and rules the world through shame and guilt and their god itself is the god of guilt and trauma. My religion is that i will bow to no guilt and bow to no trauma for they are false gods.

>>515164459
Jesus Christ died for you so no guilt can be held against you and all trauma is healed by his wounds.
that are basic christian beliefs.

>>515163909
They are very quick to hysterically lash out at what they claim to consider a very numerically insignificant and rather quiet portion of the population. Look at the emotional hair trigger way with which they quiver with rage at the mere idea of another world-faith emerging.

And it also helps that our gods do not come from the Levant. I mean, you have to admit, the geographical outlook alone on paganism puts it miles ahead of Christianity.

>>515164284
>I'll continue on trouncing the rest of you in this thread with ease.
So christcuckery allows for anime?

>>515164552
You guys never burned the holocaust museums and it is a guilt idol

>>515164405
How many of the Christians globally are Christian? Same thing. And yes, I know Christianity will have relevance for a while. But it is religion in decline and the next eon will be something new, which people are already looking towards. The current trend has already fatigued this cycle. It has run its course and it in the stage of morbidity.

>>515164593
God burns it for me. no reason to.

>>515164284
What trouncing has taken place? There is no mass conversion to neopaganism outside of certain specific, mostly online political movements related to the migration crisis. Further many of those conversions are politics from the opposite side - a leftist rebelling against his Christian upbringing for different reasons to yours, but still political nonetheless. They have the same contempt for American history that you do.

If remigration were to happen tomorrow, in 10 years you'd be onto some other New Age glam.

>>515164459
I don't entirely disagree, but I was actually looking for the brand name(™) of your religion. You see, if your religion does not have a very snappy, easily identifiable brand name (™) that I can recognize it, maybe a short set of character traits with buffs and debuffs, if your religion is more mythical and individualist like regional religions used to be, then I don't recogize it. What is the brand name (™) of your religion, preferably a monosyllabic word followed by an "ist" suffix, so I know who you are. Also, you have to have a book with chapters in it so that we can reference it because we hate and despise people and organizations of people even though we are organizations of people, so there must be a single text that is marked by numbers that is canonically recognized as the textual pedagogy of the faith. Thirdly, what is your symbol? There must be a symbol with the icon that is easily recognizable.

>>515164571
absolutely