Thread 516085611

is ukraine about to win and push back?

>>516085611 (OP)
Jews are about to win

>>516085611 (OP)
No

>>516085611 (OP)
No. Just more southern hohol genocide

>>516085611 (OP)
There will be.............consequences.
....in 2 more days.

t.Putin.

>>516085611 (OP)
no, its afghanistan 2.0
enjoy your coping for the next 6 years

>>516085611 (OP)

no.

>>516085763
And that's exactly what the USA wanted.
Another victory for the kike bankers country

They have been attacking a single pocket for a month non stop, not counting losses, and could barely move the line.
Wtf with ukrainians first losing all the surrounding villages and only when the couldron is formed and russians have a full activity drone control over the city, only then they try to save the city.
The whole poibt of a couldron is that the enemy will see a dire situation and will retreat leaving the city. Not that they will send a few hundred thousand troops iside the city for a certain death just for the media victory...

>>516085848
>october 2021
>russia is concetrating troops
>everyone says, dont go in
>2022 russia invades Ukraine
>thats exactly what the USA wanted
kek

>>516086000
you are still in time to join the international legion

>>516085611 (OP)
>cheerleading in a war of attrition
lel. See you in two weeks.. months.. years.

>>516086086
>look at this meme
kek, that doesnt change the past

Russians are very lame and don't know how to wage war. They could have won it by now if they were willing to be more ruthless.

>>516085611 (OP)
Let's put it this way... NO.
But Russia isn't either. Russia literally can't win.
Ukraine has shown they can touch Moscow.
IF Russia comes close to winning, Moscow burns, unless they learn how to defend from infiltrated drones.
So they can't win until they do, because Moscow isn't the capital of a buffer state, built to be destroyed, it's fucking Moscow.

>>516085611 (OP)
Yeah, they will engage the Russians from 360 degrees in several regions and then conclude successful military operations there like they have been since Mariupol.

If neither side is making any real progress, whats the point continuing. Ukraine will never get Crimea and Donbass back, thats gone.

What does Russia want - Ukraine never joining Nato
What does Ukraine want - Joining Nato
= Not joining Nato, no restrictions on military growth in Ukraine to protect themselves. Call it a day

>>516086196
>kek, that doesnt change the past
it does not sargent gomez

>>516085611 (OP)
This is identical to the maps you cucks were posting at the beginning of this year
How long will you let jewish overlords slaughter you for nothing? what a useless people

>>516085611 (OP)
Ukraine wins every day it's not conquered.

>>516085848
Guess that means Putin is Trump's puppet.

>>516086665
>Müllheim
>Literally "Trash Home"
>Put the French there
based piefkes

>>516086665
ok, germany is key member of NATO

>>516086527

ukraine aint gonna win and will run out of men long before russia does

>>516086527
>If neither side is making any real progress, whats the point continuing.
Running out the clock on Russia.
Russia can't afford this.
They're wrecking their banks, inflating their currency, bankrupting their economy.
At some point the balloon goes up in Russia and Putin falls.
Ukraine deleted two more Russian refinery distillation stacks yesterday.
North of 30% of all refinery capacity is gone now, and Russia can't fix it.
Tick tock.

stinky status?

>>516085611 (OP)
can Europe and America out produce Russia? can Europe and America out man Russia?

>>516086882
Nonetheless I'm getting tired of the Jew Zelensky. I'd consent to letting Ukraine win if I got to see Zelensky hang from a meathook like Mussolini.

>>516086847
>key member of NATO
a vassal of a vassal state yes

>>516086527
Nope, at this point what the West wants, and will get, is
>Russia paying war reparations and rebuilding Ukraine
>Russian disarmament
It's just a matter of how long it will take, and how many Russians will die before it's done.
If Ukraine joins NATO, or gets military bases, or Crimea/Donbass back... that's all a nice bonus, but not the goal.

>>516086850
To flip that the other way, if Russia can't, or has no intention of pushing further into Ukraine, then what is the goal. Waiting for Ukraine to run out of men raise the white flag and agree to every demand.. doesnt look like they're going to. What does Russia gain from that anyway. Their demands in 20 years, are going to be the same as today.

>>516085611 (OP)
yes, you will lose. tomorrow moscow will fall.

>>516085611 (OP)
Cope map

>>516086344
if moscow burns kiev will look like gaza. you do realize that right?

>>516087232
glove status?

>>516087232
Everything zioniggers touched so far looks like Gaza. What's the difference?

>>516086882
Barely 22% of the world's 193 countries are sanctioning Russia and it's 8% if you count the EU As a single entity. These are WESTERN sanctions only and as such it will never be enough to crash the Russian economy.

>>516085611 (OP)
push back? lmao

maybe they can back some local village or two, but not whole front

>>516087222
Nice trips but it is you that is coping.

>>516085611 (OP)
no

1000 hypersonics says Russia wins

>>516085611 (OP)
>34 brigades
>100.000 -- 170.000 men defending just Boboroprilla fields
>it almost 2 times UK army

europe is pissing out all their money to fund this, and ukraininas are pissing all their blood there

>>516086344
They bomb random high rises with a drone once or twice a year. Ukraine really doesn't have the capacity to do anything to one of the world's largest cities. If you're referring to the truck drone attack, 3 of the 5 attacks completely failed. Only the ones deeper and more remote in Russia succeeded. That isn't conducive to some kind of rogue terror attack on Moscow. And Ukraine should be well aware that random terror attacks only harden a population's resolve to fight. As much as Russia isn't winning this war, Ukraine has basically no leverage and Russia clearly does not give a fuck what it costs.
>>516086527
There is no point. They should have negotiated earlier this year, before or after the Kursk clown show when it was apparent neither side could do anything significant in the Donbas. The only reason this war is continuing (and the main reason it began in the first place) is because of utterly incompetent, prideful, and blatantly stupid political leaders and diplomats. But really that's fitting for government these days. You can only imagine the farthest any of these officials can think is to their next meal.

>>516086951
>saviours of the white rice
kek

>>516085611 (OP)
Push back with more repurposed recon and decoy drone false flags? It could work, a lot of stupid fuckwits seem to be buying it.

>>516085611 (OP)
Every time i think “russia got this, ukraine is done for”, russians get stuck trying to take some random village for months
So im not really that optimistic about ukraine losing in 2 more weeks anymore

>>516092921

They can keep expanding the draft age to get more manpower for a while yet. The EU seems willing to keep throwing money at the lost cause. I don't see them collapsing any time in the next 6 months. Expect more ponderously slow meat grinder for minor territorial gains with the Russians generally getting the best of it.

>>516087434
theres no hohols after it
serious improvement

>>516085945
Are you just realizing that ukraine has been waging for this entire time for media victories and sponsor support instead of strategic goals?

>>516091717
Media victories exactly like this. They manage to drone strike something like, once every month and then they claim they are winning, while drones are raining on them daily.

>>516086000
And now Russia has imploded the entire EU into a death spiral.

>>516092921
Because thats how you wage attrition warfare.

>>516085611 (OP)
just two more counteroffensyivs, trust

>>516093890
>And now Russia has imploded the entire EU into a death spiral.
2 more weeks

>>516085611 (OP)
mouse trap status?

>>516087646
the US is happy with that. Russian population continues to dwindle. They are being left behind, eclipsed by the chinese

Russians have shit weapons and tech but they need to win so that they can protrct the Jews

>>516094147
You are only saying this because you are too retarded to detect long-term trends. The economy of the EU was dependent on cheap Russian energy, without it, its uncompetitive. And now, they are even taking out massive loans, just to pour into the corrupt black hole that is ukraine.And that is on the top of their demographic collapse and replacement. Within 30 years, the entirety of the EU will be a periphery of failed states around Russia.

>>516094977
>US happy with their simple great power opponent with their interests constrained to Asia and East Europe getting replaced with an ascended superpower with global reach and interests

Lmao, polacks come up with the dumbest copes. What happened to the kike fantasy scenario that China will attack Russia?

>>516085611 (OP)
Not really, but it is bad for Russia.
They didn't have the resources or mass necessary to make this year's offensive successful, so they're sitting in 2 undermanned, unconsolidated salients around Pokrovsk.
They can't withdraw from these salients, even though it would make military sense to do so, because it would look bad politically.
But they aren't going to pour the men and resources in necessary to consolidate them because those resources are limited and these salients are a terrible position to fight from.

So instead they're just going to mass in the rear for next season's offensive and sacrifice the men holding these positions, letting Ukraine steadily roll them back until the salient is diminished enough to be holdable again and stabilizes.

It's basically the worst of all possible options for them since it completely wastes lives for no material gain, but I wouldn't read into those soldiers being written off too deeply. They're being written off because Russia's politicized military makes poor choices, not because it lacks the resources and capability to offer battle here. The fighting will get tough again in a few months, either in this sector or elsewhere.

>>516095437
oh but the US cant do much about china. Best they can do is try to take care of its allies. US is definitely not happy about china being a superpower, its happy about not being forced to compete against 2 superpowers at the same time

>>516087222
There are geolocations of afu attack on russians in that areas. Almostball of that grey yeallow area still has russian troops inside and almost no ukrainian troops.

>>516091717
Bald of you to assume that those politicians didn't want this war.

>>516085732
keep believing, fox

>>516085611 (OP)
They should be careful. If they start to gain ground Trump might nuke them.

>>516095437
I can't remember the last time Germany had a fuel crisis. The gas station called Russia currently has them in several oblasts. The majority of Russian exports are fossil fuels, you clown.

>>516095721
Are you watchingvonly pokrpvsk? Because in all other fronts russia is taking land and taking it fast with little to no resistance. While ukraine can barely move the frontline in pokrovsk using their elite troops.
I don't even support russia. But ukrainian propaganda on pol is beyond retardation right now.

>>516086000
Maybe you noticed an administration change?

>>516093258
no they don't, they don't even draft below 25 and are opening the countries borders for young men again.
You are really deep in russian copeganda my friend.

>>516095437
When will Europe do something about their Hungarian 5th column?

>>516086000
noticing things is very jewish

>>516096478
They competing against both of them now. Russia was trying to keep its distance from China, until the US-funded color revolutions in Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan made them ally with the Chinese. Biggest fucking blowback since couping Iran for the US.

>>516096791
Are you retarded or intentionally ignorant? You are unaware how energy prices work? Literally entire sectors, like the entire German chemical industry has shut down and moved abroad, because they cannot be competitive without Russian gas. You cannot base an economy on worshipping trannies, criminals and migrants.

>>516096945
You think your seething will accomplish anything?

>>516096633
What is there to believe? Its all public if you know how to connect the dots. We have (((Igor Berkut))) talking about "decentralizing" Ukraine for a new jewish state and we have the (((Royal))) House of international affairs doing exactly that. Or do you have a better theory on why anglokike wants to decentralize Ukraine while its being invaded?

>>516091717
40% of the attacks, made with cheap ass drones, hit something.
That's already too much, and it's a deterrent. If Russia pushes too much, how many drones can be thrown in a final attack? 40% of them is just too many.

>>516097442
its been decentralized from its top-down commie structure, retard

>>516098019
>retard
Sure buddy. Go defend Odessa like Mactroon promised. If you survive, you'll see oinkraine decentralized and the south will become a economic powerhouse for the Chinese BRI silk road. They already build the infrastructure and ports there lmao

>>516085703
They'll take everything east to the dnipre river screencap this

>>516085611 (OP)
Its happening right now.

>>516085611 (OP)
Is the sun about to orbit the Earth? No.
Russia, with all its flaws, is still much more massive than Ukraine.

>>516087222
Got Bakhmut?

>>516098200
defend odessa against what? russia is too limpdick, retarded, and weak to even attack it lmao

>>516097348
Will yours?

>>516099098
>accepts defeat by deflecting

So you know that nothing will happen.

>>516098902
There's enough meat to grind and a few more years of war planned

>>516099098
energy prices are basically global so this makes zero fucking sense you retard. it's a global market.

> oh no, slavs kills slavs, care about
me: ?

>>516098582
It was never the goal though. Just tough guy talk before the hohol genocide

https://youtu.be/hkU6Zg7RwL0

Even fucking Brigozhin spilled the beans (4:50)

>>516099891
>send in 200k men to kiev
>forget vehicles need fuel and men need food to move forward
>entire push for kiev gets obliterated and your best units die for nothing
>vdvs get hunted down and killed like feral hogs by the equivalent of airsofters
>w-we didn't mean to capture it after all haha
truly pathetic lmao

>>516099794
If vidrel is dying you should care.

>>516101125
Let me remind you how (((commies))) killed "their own". Those fags had 1 weapon for 2 men, loot the bodies for gear. What makes you think the kgb midget suddenly wants to save "his" people?

>>516086527
Dnipro oil and gas basin
Russia cant let it fall to the west

>>516099353
meant for >>516097348

today i am the retard

>>516085611 (OP)
Nah, it's too close to Mud season if it isn't here already. Gotta wait for the ground to freeze.

>>516085848
Putin could have withdrawn at any moment. He didn't. This is all on Putin.

>>516101507
>energy prices are global

No they are not. Absolute, idiotic denial. Are you unable to comprehend that LNG infrastructure and paying to have it shipped from vendors who sell it for twice as much to begin with costs more than pumping it through already existing pipelines, or you are just hamfistedly trying to push an agenda.

>>516085611 (OP)
in a month or so half those will be gone and most will be at 20% staffing and they will be explaining how the area has no strategic significance.
Blackmutt still stands!
Avdeevka holds!
Ugledar holds!
novoselika holds…

>>516101970
Nigrick was a good idea

>>516101865
Energy prices are global. The "global" price is of course many time higher than the domestic price. And you as a citizen have to pay the global price not the domestic price ensuring the corperations get paid handsomely. Russia is one of the few countries that sells to it's citizens at the domestic rate.

>>516097348
>Are you retarded or intentionally ignorant? You are unaware how energy prices work?

>>516086527
>Ukraine never joining Nato

But ukraine wasn't going to join NATO or the EU.

>Not joining Nato
>no restrictions on military growth
What the heck are you spouting; this is an, unlawful, restrictions.

>>516101206
Hot. Sauce?

>>516085611 (OP)

Your soldiers better retreat before they running out from gas. Long way walk back home.

>>516091717
> the Kursk clown sho
You denier are still repeating that, despite this isn't being a accurzte description, as the fighting isn't over and the Russian forces aren't able to push the ukrainian out, and this isn't a clow show but a big invasion issue.

Furthermore, all the other claims you spouted all either deceptive, completely inacurrate or ridiculous.

This is turning into Vietnam for Russia.

Cunning, resourceful defenders fighting to the death.

Ruscucks being funneled into the frontline to overwhelm by force.

Momentum keeps stopping starting due to seasons and heavy fortifications. No air superiority.

>>516102151
>retreats into desperate, retarded denial

nafotroons are something special.

>>516103293
>reddit spacing
>tranny wishful thinking
>complete opposite of reality, as western money and ukrop meat is being funneled into killing zones

I remember when your type was still desperately trying to claim how afghanistan was a win