Thread 516086924

Did the bullet actually hit the brain after bouncing from vest? Did he feel anything in the end? Tim Pool said that he was stable so, was he aware what was happening?

>>516086924 (OP)
he had total brain death within about 20 seconds but the energy from that round probably seperated at least part of his spine so he probably felt absolutely nothing and was functionally dead instantly.

>>516086924 (OP)
jews pushing vest theory lmao comical, get a job

>>516086924 (OP)
He immediately went decorticate so he probably died very quickly, if not instantly.

>>516086924 (OP)
He would have grabbed his throat if he had anything left. Bullet rendered him did pretty much instantly.

>>516087036
so in those 20 sec did he know that he was shot?

>>516086924 (OP)
Someone said that that thing where his arms went in and he sort of tried to go into the fetal position, is something that happens from brain ~death.
It was probably like the end of the sopranos from his POV.

>>516086924 (OP)
Definitely wearing a vest and his hand movements are consistent with people who were shot in the head. I'm sure people from /gif/ rekt threads can back me up on this.

>>516087196
nah, that death was about as quick as you could go for how violent it was.
His brain shut down almost instantly from shock.

>>516087196
Nah. The way his body postured up immediately after the hit shows the bullet damaged his spine enough to disconnect the brain from the body instantly

>>516086924 (OP)
He decorticate postured within literally 1 video frame, the bullet or the shockwave turned his brainstem into mush, he literally never knew what hit him or that anything even happened. You are watching a corpse bleed out on the video.
>>516087196
No retard he died on impact

>>516086924 (OP)
tim pool doesnt know shit. brain needs blood. heart needs blood. he died of cardiac arrest soon after.

He is stable according to tim pool.

>>516087213
Holy shit this is stupid fucking design, no wonder the bullet bounced

he lost like a gallon of blood in five seconds, no way he was conscious for more than a split second after it happened

There was a video with this exact question on youtube by a medical professional. His conclusion was that he was unconscious immediately. Maybe not clinically dead instantly, but he had no idea what happened.

Unconfirmed. Monitoring.

>>516087196
no he passed out and went into a coma.

>>516087213
>muh cardiac bo-ACK
I like how they always pretend everything else is not vital.

>>516087420
can you show me a link?

>>516086924 (OP)
it looked like so much blood came out so fast he probably rapidly lost blood pressure, became unconscious and died. sometimes when a deer gets shot, it spikes its blood pressure up and basically instantly kills it as well.

>>516086924 (OP)
Instantly unconscious and unaware of what happened. The rest is debating when death is counted.

>>516087369
If only people had known that projectiles would deflect from the chest plate into the neck.

>>516087521
Also didn't you say the other day you were a doctor? >>515977942
How do you not know the answer to your question?

>>516087213
It appears to be a direct hit to his carotid, its likely his BP dropped so fast that he was unconscious in just a few milliseconds.

also those vests will not stop a .30-06, and if it was a less powerful round (9mm, etc) the vests are designed to catch the round. Check basically any vest test on yt

>>516087369
>rifle bullet bounced off soft pistol vest

>>516086924 (OP)
>memeflag
>bulletproof vest mention
Russian/chinese/indian commie shills, including lefty trannies, psyop thread for consoiracy theories to make you look like a fool.

These threads are worthless garbage.

>>516087369
Soft armor does nothing against even 5.56 from a rifle, memeflag
Nothing.
A rifle round even a lower power such as 5.56 will go right through soft armor.

Just stop. I'm already spreading the word about what these threads really are and you're seeing the pushback.

>>516086924 (OP)
From the frame that the entry wound on his neck appears, his eyes reflexively close the very next one. If it didn't immediately kill him, it immediately killed his consciousness, and his heart quickly pumped out the blood to fuel what was left.

yes, it was instant.

you see the round exit around his brain stem. functionally a head shot.

>>516087946
it was a steel plate rated for rifle rounds, hence why it bounced.

>>516088011
He wasnt wearing anything. Kill yourself. Seriously, you are worthless. Commit suicide.

>>516086924 (OP)

try choking yourself with your hands on your neck anon, thats basically what happened
extremely fast lack of blood to brain since his neck was cut so he passed out in like 2 seconds

>>516086924 (OP)
>Tim Pool said
It must be true then

>>516087664
Would he have survived if he wasn't wearing the vest? The bullet would've just gone into his chest where it might have missed a vital artery giving him a better chance of survival instead of blowing his neck open and instakilling him. Or would it have obliterated his internal organs and killed him anyway?

>>516087664
British engineers from medieval times were smarter than present-day American engineers?

>>516088201
iirc, the loaded projectile was a ballistic tip. if it hit him without the plate, it's likely he would have died simply from the projectile expanding and fragmenting inside his body.

he may have been able to survive a military ball round (fmj) without the vest, but that wasn't fired.

>>516088169
>2 seconds
lol no. He is instantly decorticate posturing. His facial expression is completely unchanged compared to the video frame before the bullet impact. He was instantly brained.

>>516086924 (OP)
He was unconscious before he had time to realise he got shot and no longer saveable 10 seconds later even if he was in a hospital when he got shot

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/33-hours-charlie-kirk-suspected-011341782.html
>the Utah County sheriff confirmed Kirk was not wearing armor, not that it would have made a difference in Wednesday’s shooting.

The only other people aside from youtube grifters mentioning body armor comes from INDIAN NEWS SOURCES.
People, these are the retards trying to convince you of all of this bullshit and make you look stupid to others.

No. Body. Armor. Sheriff. Confirmed.

>>516088502
the sheriff is wrong. the security detail will have removed the plate as they got him in the car, and it wouldn't have been mentioned to the sheriff (that's not info he needs to know).

wait for the autopsy report.

>>516088502
I went by this video because he makes a solid case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqG61FEvnTY

I feel like the vest killed him.
The bullet wouldn't have hit anything vitality he wasnt wearing it.

>>516088715
You're just insulting me at this point.

>>516087196
his death was similar to pic related in how the bullet hit him
so ask yourself what has beheading resulted in

>>516088410
This. Like the helmet less bicycle retard or the Indian can crushing sledgehammer. People need to lurk in gore threads if they want to understand death

>>516086924 (OP)
He was immediately unconscious with brain damage and that is apparent by how he locked up. Hard to say if he still had a pulse or was dead within moments but he most likely did not feel anything.

I don't know if this is true, but it's been stated here that he was wearing a metal plate to protect his chest. If this is the case that would explain why the bullet pierced the collar of his shirt first and traveled up to his neck about 1 1/2" above if the bullet ricocheted off the metal plate he was wearing. I still have not found any concrete evidence that he was wearing a metal plate. If this is not true then someone within the crowd MOST DEFINITELY shot him at an angle from below. The most likely area would be the waterfall maintenance area if such a thing exists.

>>516088318
no, real plate armour had pieces for every body part and were used by wealthy knights for actual battle. they had neckpieces

>>516086924 (OP)
>after bouncing from vest
Enough with this shit. The 30-06 would not have bounced from the vest people claim Kirk had on him.
It would have gone straight through.

>>516088929
You sound very emotional. Get a grip

>>516088502
get a load of this guy simping for cops. he's said on his show plenty of times the amount of death threats they get daily forces them to go to extra security measures when he does these events and they obviously can't get into details, and you can clearly see the outline of the vest under his shirt. what, he was secretly a self-hating tranny now and that was his bra? cope.

>>516089114
On this very point, the body armor argument, I have the most solid foundation of anyone in this thread.

Ask yourself something.
Grab one of the closer up videos and watch it frame by frame.
Why is there no damage to the shirt if he was shot in a vest?

>>516086924 (OP)
He was brain dead instantly, spinal column severed , (postering) , if that hadn’t killed him loss of blood ( shock ) would have. They said he was stable lol.
He may have had a heart beat but he was dead.

>>516089186
What is this if there was no damage to his shirt?

>>516089368
His necklace as I have said many times before.
I know I'm arguing with the same people over and over, I'm aware of this.
Just so you're aware you aren't dealing with someone who doesn't get it

Shit did I use too many double negatives for your nog brain?

>>516089368
Blood retard

>>516089186
There was no vest , there is no evidence of one and his security have said repeatedly that he wasn’t wearing a vest.

>>516088502
Thanks for the link. Now I'm even more curious how his shirt could have been so displaced.

>>516089186
>His necklace as I have said many times before.
you mean it's not a hole, but the shade in his shirt made by wrinkles from his necklace?

>>516088318
I think it's simply not fashionable to wear gorgets and other neck protection while also wearing casual wear like a T-shirt, so those just don't exist outside of specialized military assault body armors or something.

>>516089481
Shock wave from bullet

>>516089508
Post your hand with a timestamp Achmed.

>>516086924 (OP)
He was reduced to a biological reaction and was very likely dead within seconds.

>>516086924 (OP)
his blood pressure dropped so much and so suddenly that he was instantly rendered unconscious and did not experience anything afterward.
that was probably the nicest way to die.
he didn't even know anything was wrong.
he was talking about how retarded trannies are and then he was with the lord talking about how retarded trannies are.

>>516087036
it has nothing to do with his spine fucking morons. The shot created an overpressure in his vascular system. imagine your blood pressure going from to 5 times the normal blood level and then down to 0 within a fraction of a second. it was lights out

>>516089586
>mutt telling a White man to post hand
Lmao
And again, you're way too emotional and invested in this. It's not healthy, not convincing, and kinda pathetic

>>516087036
he was unconscious instantly.
you ever stand up too fast?
imagine that times 100.

>>516089775
Oh so you won't do it?

>>516089811
/thread

Poor guy

>>516089007
You're a moron

>>516089580
I don't buy the shockwave argument. Take a look at this ballistics analysis of a .50 cal. It barely disturbs the air surround it's trajectory. Go to the 8:00 mark.

https://youtu.be/k4CpttHdMPI?si=MzIiCoaB6bKLMBYu

No, kike nigger

>>516089839
I'm a White man, you're a deracinated, rootless genetic mess. You don't get to tell me what to do. Know your place, mutt

>>516089769
Decorticate posturing 100% has to do with the spine being severed OR the brainstem being Thanos snapped, the latter is instant death. You are focusing on the bleeding which was only one of the two deadly factors here.

>>516086924 (OP)
He died like a bitch

>>516086924 (OP)
He probably didn't die right away but over the next several hours thats why Tim poole said he was still alive

>>516089922
Ok you brown incestuous welfare abusing nigger. You keep on believing your own bullshit.

>>516089895
>I don't buy the shockwave
>literally video of the shockwave

>>516090005
Read the thread before you spout retarded shit.

>>516089580
nope. it does nothing.

i can't see any other explanation other than the bounce to explain what we see. even ballistic tip shenanigans with an sternum hit exiting the spine. ballistic tip projectiles are notorious for odd behavior, but it's usually a lack of expansion or the tip ending up at odd places inside the body on its own (not exiting).

>>516090041
It barely moves the tissue paper, so how could a smaller caliber lift an entire T-shirt?

>bullet bouncing off body armour
Even to someone who has never fired a gun this sounds retarded as fuck. Surely the bullet would have embedded itself in the armour, not just bounced off like he’s fucking Superman.

>>516086924 (OP)
No, he was knocked out, then lost brain oxygenation. Immediately moribund, unsurvivable, but he's only dead after about a minute.

>>516089879
almost nobody here liked him but you can tell who the leftists pretending to be regular /pol/ users are by who is happy about what happened to him. they literally can't help but out themselves

>>516090101
Because it was the necklace breaking and moving violently that moved the shirt.
Again, grab one of the closeup videos, watch frame by frame.
It's all extremely obvious.

>>516090176
Kek you can stfu now retard

>>516090165
empathy is WOKE!

>>516090165
This i never and don't like political e-grifters but I'd never want them to be shot for using our american free speech rights. Because what being om with that means is, it's now ok to do that to anyone for any opinion.

The only people celebrating this are the usual suspects, and well now that the shock has played out just trolls/underage memers

>>516090205
Kill yourself you worthless muzzie fuck.

>>516088201
He wasn't wearing an armor plate, that's retarded disinfo trannies have been trying to push since day 1.
>Or would it have obliterated his internal organs and killed him anyway?
If it hit him center of mass, yes it would have blown his heart/lungs/portal vein to shit and he would have died pretty immediately in any case.

He was dead before hit hit the ground

>>516086924 (OP)

With that amount of blood loss he was passed out before he hit the ground and dead seconds later.

>>516090472
He passed out on impact when his brainstem got BTFO'd

>>516090407
If he was dead on the scene, why didn't they leave the body for investigators? Instead they rushed him into a car
Is that protocol? Here they'd either cordon off the body if dead, or take it to hospital by ambulance if not

>>516090176
Hmmm interesting theory. Wouldn't call it "extremely obvious" lol. I just went frame by frame on the clip I have and don't see a necklace where the neck wound is located.

>>516090666
Yes you do. You see the broken necklace flying around.

>>516090576
No doubt

>>516090655
Because everybody was confused and panicked you idiot.

No stupid, he died 1 hour ago

>>516090666
You can see in tons of event photography leading up to the shooting where his necklace rests on his left trap and across the back of his neck. With the downward angle of the frontal shot the trajectory and exit wound would appear to match where his necklace would have rested on the back of his neck. Here's one.

>>516090472
Yeah, Maybe he was technically alive for a few minutes, but there is evidence of immediate trauma, his wrists coming out and together is a neurological response to traumatic injury. He was essentially brain dead very quickly

>>516090655
It's not illegal to rush someone to a hospital you fucking idiot.

>>516090655
No doctors to declare dearh, his bodyguards quickly threw him in the car and drove to hospital. It was the best chance he had

>>516090759
That argument might work in feminized Sweden, swedecuck, but here there are usually cooler heads around who follow protocol. I'd assume in the US too. Not everyone is gay like you, Sven

>>516090809
Declared dead by a doctor, but sure. Officially he was pronounced dead at the hospital

>>516090216
>>516090243
we know this is not good because he was the diet pepsi version of us. he was an entry level conservative normie. it sets a dark and sobering precedent to see it happen along with peoples reactions to it. any kumbaya future you might have envisioned where we're agreeing to disagree with our opponents over a beer and a laughing at the banter is gone. it was never possible. do not ever let your guard down with regards to these people. our criticism of Charlie Kirk was that he was too charitable to our opponents and look where we are now. there should no question in any of our minds that it's time to get serious. either get serious, or get out of the way.

>>516087198
It should be hassan not tony.

>>516089042
Can you prove he was shot by a 30-06?

How about proving the video isn’t AI generated?

>>516089895
A human body is like a bag of water for a bullet. It made a shock through his body that moved the shirt.

Also perhaps ironically, the 50cal happens to be an extremely aerodynamic bullet so its not blowing as much air as you'd think

He died instantly. He felt nothing

>>516090863
Yeah you're right he was actually alive, he asked to be carried to his car once he tucked his severed carotid back inside his neck.

>>516090708
>>516090834
Okay fair enough. What's the highest quality video available? I have this shitty webm but it's the highest quality I've seen posted here. The stuff I can see flying around behind his head for 2 frames I assumed was splatter from an exit wound, not the necklace.

I had a similar question: Are there any doctors here that can break this footage down? His body tensed up as if he was dead instantly.. was the blood loss to the brain that significant where he would just die? Is the blood that we see actually coming down from his brain? Did the bullet travel through his brain stem and that is the reaction we're seeing? How did the lights go out immediately? Wouldn't the brain have the capability to stay alive for a few seconds after? I've seen beheadings where the person didn't die until half their neck was already sawed through.

>>516087213
these vests would make him look like sitting up straight, right? instead of sinking together like a sack of potatoes

>>516089422
Looks more like a bullet hole with low resolution artifacting.

>>516089450
Even if it is blood the shirt exploding upwards would indicate a shot coming from below.

>>516091068
There is reportedly some spinal injury which is consistent with the neurological 'fencing' posture. Its sudden trauma, not just the bullet hole but the force of the bullet

>>516091068
His brainstem was hit which killed him immediately. His carotid was also severed which even without the brainsteam injury would have rendered him unconscious in about 1 second and then dead in 10.
People can survive during a beheading if they cut from the front of the neck and don't hit the main arteries until a couple of hacks/sawings.

Every time I've had that happen to me, I feel it for a few hours but im usually fine by the next morning. Hope this helps!

>>516090834

do you think he spotted the shooter here?

>>516087196
Sorry you tranny. He didn't feel any pain and was instantly delivered to heaven while you will most likely die in excruciating pain.

>>516091299
Yes. Eyewitnesses say he mumbled "so that's the troon that's going to kill me".

>>516090834
>nipples
deboonks vest theory

>>516091020
I'm not disagreeing with you, but does the way the shirt move really fit that description? There is a specific point on the shirt that appears as if it was pinched and lifted up, significantly more so than the rest of the shirt.

>>516090834
The necklace is different from the black spot that appears near the collar of his t-shirt. I initially theorized his t-shirt may have had a double stitch at the collar and a different color (grey) material was used and was appearing ripped in one of the frames. Instead that appears to be a silver cross necklace. The necklace makes a brief moment as the shirt pops up and lies beneath his shirt once more.

As you can see in the series of images I provided here: >>516091178

>>516090989
Prove you aren't a gay retard with a dick in your mouth right now.

Is there a photo that shows the view from where the shooter was?

The Kirk thing is a total nothing burger. Nothing ever happens chud remains undefeated

>>516086924 (OP)
how would you die from halloween makeup effects?

>>516086924 (OP)
>Did he instantly die here?
God I hope so. Sheesh.

>>516091068
He was wearing a titanium plate that deflected the round upwards resulting in likely fragmentation or tumbling where the cross section of the fragments went up into the cranial vault through the carotid bundle, likely causing either a complete severing of the carotid artery. The immediate decorticate posturing following the shot indicates a cortical brain injury, likely as a combination of fragments in the skull. The lack of an exit would further supports the fragmentation off a vest, as a .30-06 would cause a significant exit would. Most entry wounds are much smaller than the projectile diameter, often a pinhole with 5.56 or .308. He was rendered unconscious instantly and his heart stopped about 2 min later from uncontrolled hemorrhaging.
t. trauma surgeon

>>516090307
What's the matter with the vest ? That's not anormal to have a public figure who already received death threats to wear one.

>>516091745
The armor plate theory has been debunked.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sunday-shows-preview-charlie-kirk-213937800.html

>Was Charlie Kirk wearing body armor?

>Speculation has run rampant about whether Kirk, who faced protests and threats as he made campus appearances, was wearing a bullet-proof vest under his T-shirt.

>Entin said the Utah County sheriff confirmed Kirk was not wearing armor, not that it would have made a difference in Wednesday’s shooting.

>>516086924 (OP)
Couldnt care less about e-celebs dying.

>>516087150
/thread

Is hasan mossad? Is marvel the gayest shit you’ve ever seen

>>516091965
Ok but then what happened to him in the afterlife

>>516091846
Maybe, but there doesn't exist a plate carrier on the market which can carry a plate capable of deflecting anything bigger than like a .22 in one piece that isn't an inch and a half thick. Any carrier that could have would had to have been worn over his shirt, not under. And as you can see in the picture I posted earlier, you can see his necklace, chain and nips printing through the tshirt with zero signs of unnatural contours on his chest or abdomen. He wasn't wearing anything under his shirt.

>>516091745
>>516091846
>>516091890
A member of Kirk's team verified that Charlie never went on stage
without a vest with rifle plate inserts. His wife insisted. Charlie said that his favorite one was a "stealth vest."
He wasn't wearing a vest when the Sheriff saw him because they stripped it off on the way to the hospital. His detail did that and has better information than the Sheriff, who saw him AFTER that.

I wonder where he got the cross. This is a crazy thought, but what if the cross was armed with something and exploded a shot towards him? That would explain the appearance of the shot and the shirt jumping up from a bullet that was suppose to becoming from 150+ yards away and from a roof on higher ground.

>>516091178
>>516091515
Pay attention you little maggot.
The shirt motion is his broken necklace flying up into his shirt's neck, then tumbling out.
The >thing< on his shirt, below the gunshot wound, is where the Cross of his necklace landed.

It's plain as day even with this shitty video quality.
After this, if anyone tries to tell you there was body armor, tell them to kill themselves.

>>516087150

He obviously didn’t die instantly if he pronounced dead at the hospital. He may have instantly gone into shock and never really felt or known he was dying. Like blacking out from a from a KO punch. But he was alive when the medics got there and one could only assume that took 10 minutes just to get there.

>>516092148
Oh god you're just one of the agitators. Of course you are.
I'm reporting you to the FBI for inclusion in this case. Tired of you people.

>>516092124
He's not wearing one here: >>516090834

>>516092320
That's not how it works retard. He lost almost ALL OF HIS BLOOD on camera in a couple seconds. He was fucking dead. But especially with a public figure, nobody will officially pronounce him dead until they exhausted all resuscitation possibilities, even if they were obviously futile.

>>516087213
Those vests are made to stop pistol rounds and maybe some rifles. A 30 06 would cut through it like butter.

>>516091068
>His body tensed up as if he was dead instantly..
Just the body blacking out due to sudden drop in blood pressure. There was a clip circulating about a year about, with some islander fags in Sydney threatening to stab each other. A taller one who was standing to the side decide to stick his head in and got shivved in the neck -- he held his neck, blood poured out, and dropped like a log in ~5 seconds.

>that was some short stabbing implement
>not a high-powered rifle from relatively close range

>>516092148
That all seems very complicated. Ive heard the 'neck device theory' I just dont think its likely

If it were Mossad, and I really dont think it is a direct Mossad thing, they have boxes that can shoot bullets with precision. Its been happening in the middle east, some scientists goes somewhere, a box opens up with a machine gun inside programmed to kill him. There is officially no evidence the boxes are tied to Mossad.

>>516086924 (OP)
He's not wearing a vest. You can't conceal one under a t-shirt. It would be the first thing you notice looking at him. It doesn't even conceal well under a button down, and I'm talking soft vests. Something that could make a bullet "bounce off" would be hard plate armor that would definitely be visible through a t-shirt. Bullets don't typically do that unless it's steel armor at close range at certain angles. He was not fucking wearing invisible steel armor under his t-shirt. The bullet hit him in the neck and it's a consistent entry wound with the hunting rifle they described. You can look up hunting videos to see, and ironically Charlie was a hunter who did that to many animals. It did not appear to be an exit wound from being shot from behind with a handgun. Police would've already noted that if there were burn marks and an entry wound on the back of his neck.

He really did get sniper and died rather quickly. The pain is what put him down and the operational amount of blood his brain needed rushed out rather quickly. He felt extreme pain and passed out. Legally dead shortly after hitting the floor. Not really anything that could've been done unless he was immediately teleported to a surgeon's table with full staff and equipment ready to go. The necessary veins his brain gets and removes blood with were completely destroyed, irreparable, hit with a rifle round that did untold damage past the skin's surface. Charlie Kirk is dead and he was killed by the assassin seen fleeing the roof.

>>516092574
He was decorticate posturing which is a very specific thing, it's not "tensing up" and it's not "blacking out", it means his brainstem got destroyed on impact, he was dead before the blood even started gushing out of his throat.

>>516086924 (OP)
The hydrostatic force generated through his circulatory system from a round that big hitting so close to his brain would have made him black out instantly and probably not wake up due to the quick blood loss.
>>516087150
This

>>516092280
This is a compelling argument and I appreciate the back and forth dialogue. I personally can't tell if I'm seeing a necklace or if I'm just seeing strings of blood, but your confidence is inspiring.

>>516092330
I'm reporting you to the Chinese Communist Party, sir!

I'm just trying to figure things out. I was content with the armor theory and it turns out he wasn't wearing any. I guess I shouldn't be able to discuss any controversial topics, right? No more 9/11 discussions about obvious thermite molten pouring from the WTC buildings because the Feds just won't have it. Freedom of speech is just le bad.

>>516092330
What a cry baby! Stop replying to me if you disagree and my posts anger you that much. Looks like the exploding cross theory is the one I'm going with now. I guess those IDF faggots on Kirks security detail gave a special present that day.

>>516086924 (OP)
looks just as bad as the first time you watch it.

>>516086924 (OP)
bullet went up the neck and liquified his cerebellum

>>516086924 (OP)
Political implications of this time watimg thread?

>>516087213
>his hand movements are consistent with people who were shot in the head
sometimes a hammer is enough

>>516092972
OooOOoooOoohhhhHHHHhhh so you're a chinese agitator, in the states, and you think pushing all of the deflection-intended theorycrafting is funny.

You'll see what the investigators have to say about that.

All victims of senseless gun violence need to be remembered.
Rest in Peace to
All the victims of mass shootings
All the victims of political violence
All the victims of war
Humanity needs to stop being territorial and learn that we are ALL in this TOGETHER.

We need to unite as one, before it is too late

>>516092758
This is the most likely and obvious explanation.

>>516092402

In America Ludvig, we have a call called ‘dead on arrival’. If he was dead on arrival it would have been called. He wasn’t. There were literally retards (who were there) thinking he was going to make it and tweeting about it. They wouldn’t have been tweeting that is he was DOA.

>>516093512
I can tell from your idiotic comment that you did not watch the video. He lost 90% of his blood extremely quickly, from a huge gaping hole in his neck that completely severed his carotid artery. You can literally see it on the video. He died extremely quickly.

>>516086924 (OP)

The shockwave from the round likely liquidated his brain stem. So it would have been pretty fast.

>>516089769
the bullet force is like getting punched times 10

>>516093512
>They wouldn’t have been tweeting that is he was DOA.
Trump was the first person to break the news, he probably made everyone not say anything until he did.

>>516087664
>>516087213
>>516088828
You are all wrong, There is no vest. You can see his nipples going through the shirt

>>516086924 (OP)
Either bled out or choked on his own blood after falling into shock due blood lost

>>516088318

those were made in Italy

>>516092614
I was being somewhat facetious when I said it. Although Israel does have a history of planting explosives into devices to assassinate people. The idea behind the pagers and phones exploding was that Israel was heating the devices up and causing the batteries to explode. That's not true though, they actually had the shipment of beepers and phones sent to them at a front from South Korea, and put small explosives inside them before sending them off to Yemen. The United States even knew about all of this. If Israel will act like terrorists and explode devices to kill innocent people in Yemen, why wouldn't they explode a cross they give to their goodest goys who is stepping out of line?

OY VEY!

>>516093904
a vest designed with nipples?

>>516093927
He was decorticate posturing cygan, he died before the blood started flowing, read the fucking thread next time before vomiting something stupid 170 posts in

>>516092758
>Charlie Kirk is dead and he was killed by the assassin seen fleeing the roof.
That's a big jump after such a seemingly reasonable post. New shill tactic?

>>516092320
>>516092320


There's a difference between being "dead", and "legally pronounced dead by a doctor" that has the proper training to examine all vital life/brain functions. The latter most often happens in the hospital, unless it's something like an accident scene where you're "dead" but they may bring an expert/MD/coronor/medical examiner to the scene to officially declare them dead as they reconstruct it and start removing the bodies.

Also, he may have still had some basic functions, his body may have been tensing and spazzing out, he may have had some involuntary movements as his body underwent complete dealth. So if he's still moving, an average minimum wage amublance employee can't really declare him "officially dead". Or something like a motorcycle accident, where they are doing CPR, on their way to the hospital, but an actual doctor pronounces them dead upon arrival.

>>516092320
The life between life and death is really poorly defined. What’s certain is he wasn’t lucid or aware

>>516093848
Are you talking about the A.I. video of Trump talking about Charlie's death? Everything around this fucking smells like shit. I don't know if you listen to Trump speak much over there, but he's never this coherent even when reading a teleprompter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/glitch-in-trump-s-charlie-kirk-memorial-video-247414341871

>>516091066
impressive shot from young kid

>>516086924 (OP)
There was no bullet proof vest you moron. It's an exit wound. He was shot from behind.

>>516093662
>>516093848

Two meme flags/fags. Imagine my shock.

>>516094145
no I'm talking about his truth social post announcing Kirk's death
he was the one who first broke the news and he obviously wasn't in the operating room, so it must have been suppressed

>>516087213
>Definitely wearing a vest
No he wasn't. And your pic proves he wasn't.

>>516087213
EVERYONE LOOK! This right here is a military agent trying to spread a narrative about body armor. Charlie was not wearing body armor, you can see his nipples through the shirt. This is classic information control. Charlie Kirk was killed by the collective military control network CIA/Mossad/MI6 and they are all controlled by the secret societies/world shadow government.
Do not believe this shit.

>>516092320
Just so you know, for someone to be pronounced dead on the field, there needs to be certain criteria ie decapitation, dependent lividity, rigor mortis. The only other way to declare someone dead is to have a mortitian or certified doctor there to pronounce it. That's why people are taken to the hospital and then pronounced dead shortly after. A doctor needs to say so. This prevents some silly goose paramedic from not providing care because they just go "oh well there's no way someone can survive that" when they clearly could have. Again. Obviously signs of death are the exception. I'd look it up if I were you.
t. Previous paramedic now PA

>>516094144
Yes, basically "dead" and "legally dead". In an immediate case, they need to examine all the basic life-sustaining functions and ensure the person is actually dead. But if a 90-year-old went missing in 1902, even without a body, they can be declared "legally dead" for some sort of legal or estate purpose since it's assumed they are dead.

A minimum wage EMT typically doesn't have the qualifications to declare them dead in the ambulance during transport, but in some cases it may be obvious if the person has injuries not compatible with life.

>>516094325
Fuck I love nipples

>>516094102

For one there’s no such thing as a ‘minimum wage ambulance employee’. For two you’re gay and retarded so I’m not even going to address anything else you put + i stopped reading after the first retarded statement you typed.

>>516094277
Maybe they were holding off pronouncing him dead with the very slim chance they could maybe do something to keep him alive. You could be right though - Trump is such a psycho he may have forbade anyone from declaring Charlie publicly dead until he made a shit post about it.

>>516092923
Well, it was reported that he was "critical but stable" after the shooting... So, if you what you cite was indeed the case, they lied.

>>516094362
>>516094362
Yes, what this guy says.

Also, sometimes a person may be alive and awake - and they die in the ambulance on the way to the hospital because maybe they have major internal bleeding, etc.

This happened not long ago around here where a guy was concious and talking after a major motorcycle wreck, but died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital - likely from hitting the car/pavement so hard going at a high rate of speed.

>>516094541
And your mother loves black cock. What’s your fucking point?

>>516094644
That was said by that balding YouTuber who went to the White House one time. He wouldn't know shit.

If drones are being used in Ukrania....I am sure leftists are going to start using them to denote them in republican conventions.

They could be 3-4 km away and send them to the exact point.

>>516094612
Trump also was the first to announce the suspect was captured in the middle of a TV interview, while the whole country thought the assassin was still on the loose

>>516094362

Hello brain dead/retarded “former paramedic. He literally went into surgery. They don’t go into surgery if someone is dead. LOL LMAO even!

>>516094644
Yes, they lied, it was reported by twitter grifters, and if you just watch the fucking video, it will be obvious.

>>516086924 (OP)
>Body and arms stiffening
This is neurological overload. The bullet severed his brain from the rest of his body
>Bright red blood spurt
Arterial bleed. Even if his brain stem hadn’t been damaged he would have passed out from blood loss in seconds.

you want people really mad?
always lean in.
expose everyone to this.
you see a lefty safe-space?
hang this nearby.

>>516094560
>>516094560
You're retarded. Corporate ambulance providers don't pay shit. They're literally Uber for sick and dying people, or transport corpses from place to place. Luggage handlers, basically.

>The average hourly wage for an EMT in New York is approximately $22.32, though it can vary. For the FDNY, starting salaries for EMTs are around $43,932 to $49,816 annually, which translates to an approximate hourly rate of $21.12 to $23.95. Pay rates depend on the specific employer, location, and the EMT's experience level.

Mind you - that's for the official FDNY city department. Private shitty operations pay even less. Minimum wage is $16.50 in NYC. They really don't make much over minimum wage.

>Hunter Ambulance offers a range of hourly wages, with EMTs earning approximately $18-24 per hour and Paramedics earning around $28 per hour, though these figures are estimates based on employee submissions and can vary. Other roles, such as Dispatchers, may fall within the $18-23 per hour range.

>>516086924 (OP)
What vest? He was clearly wearing something under his shirt

>>516087196
The raised pressure of his vascular system would cause unconsciousness. Probably instantly

>>516094675
I’m an avid hunter, I target the neck. They always drop immediately and twitch for about 10 seconds. This is 100% not survivable. They could have had surgeon and 200 pints of blood on standby right next to him and he would still have died because it would take too long to get blood back up to his brain.

>>516086924 (OP)
Anyone got the uncensored vid of this angle?

>>516094801
Yea, trauma surgeons will try resuscitation on a stone. An attempt must be given before its called. Just letting you know, friendo.

It was an instant death. His vertebrae was cut, his carotid was demolished and the impact of the bullet would have annihilated his brain stem. He immediately went into a decorticate posture meaning his brain was severely damaged. Never even felt a thing.

>>516094993
It would be nice if you would read the thread before posting, but anyway, he was decorticate posturing, so clearly the brainstem got damaged as well. Even if they could have somehow restored blood flow, he would have been brain dead. It was an instakill.

>>516086924 (OP)
Blood brain pressure dropped to zero as soon as his carotid was torn open, all the blood that gushed out initially was falling out of his brain. He lost consciousness instantly.

>>516094993

Right, but:

>In Utah, a person can be declared medically dead by a physician, a registered nurse in certain circumstances, or a medical examiner. The criteria for death are defined in the state's Uniform Determination of Death Act.

Unless the responding team have the proper credentials, legally, they can't declare anyone. Also, many will bring them to the hospital as a formality.

Also, Jew organ harvesting. If they were an organ donor, even if they're dead, they may go to the hospital so they can take out his organs.

>>516086924 (OP)
Prolly sharp sting for a few seconds, similar to a wasp sting then nothing
By the time they put him in an ambulance or car he lost enough blood to pass out
His neck got turned into pudding

>>516091066
I literally can't watch his death anymore for some reason. If I see it posted here I look away

>>516095131
Why don't you read the thread before responding? You're like the 7th retard who completely ignores the two dozen posts already explaining that his brain stem was hit, he was instantly decorticate posturing, he was immediately unconscious and not because of the arterial damage. (That would have caused unconsciousness also in 1 second, yes, but it was even quicker than that.)

god some of you guys are retarded, clearly wasnt wearing a vest since you can see his nipples though his shirt in some angles.

>>516088201
There was zero vest, soft or otherwise.
The only people pushing this thought are no-guns guesser types.

>>516095182
He didn't feel shit, AGAIN, read the fucking thread....... I'm not typing it out again: >>516095275

>>516089007
No they didn't. They had chain mail, dumb nigger

i see you guys have started to find some of the clues we planted, but you haven't got all of them yet

>>516088713
Holy retard
You must be disingenuous.

>>516086924 (OP)
It's like a kill shot when hunting a deer. Aim for a place likely to cause massive sudden blood loss (the heart). Least cruel way to hunt an animal. In Charlie's case that shot hit a major vessel and the sudden blood loss pretty much killed him instantly. He was lights out before he hit the ground - from his perspective it was probably like the ending to the Sopranos.

That movement of his arms was also posturing due to primitive reflexes from his brain suddenly losing all oxygen from massive blood pressure loss. Completely involuntary.

I knew from the first close up clip that if he didn't die, he was gonna be brain dead at a minimum.

>>516090101
Wasn't a 5.56 remember rittenhouse? He chopped half of that dudes arm off with an AR round that was a 5.56
When you get into .308 , 30-6 rounds that shit will shred even armor if not for ceramic plates and those are pretty thick
I pray for him, poor fuck

>>516086924 (OP)
He got shot in the neck, not the brain. He had no vest on. He didn't instantly die, he got knocked out from the impact. Look at what a bullet hole looks like less than 2 milliseconds after impact before it closes up again. This is enough to knock you unconscious.

>>516095182
>Prolly sharp sting for a few seconds, similar to a wasp sting then nothing
No this wasn't possible. His body went stiff and his arms curled up. This means he had instant catastrophic brain damage. The bullet destroyed his brain and brain stem faster than nerves could send pain signals. He was dead instantly. He felt nothing.

>>516094932

Minimum wage is $7.25 you gimp retard. Literally kys and stop posting low IQ nigger shit fag.

>>516086924 (OP)
Technically, no

>>516092280
man that necklace looks shot to pieces n shie

>>516091178
Unless like, momentum exists and skin gets pushed( or blasted) inward faster than you can see. Air pressure IS a thing.

>>516090005
No they just don’t formally announce the death until the family is informed. He was instantly dead.

>>516095511
Who can say the bullet didnt sever the spinal cord. We have no autopsy

>>516095116
If you punch someone in the neck hard enough they will drop and twitch. It’s the pressure wave of blood containing the brain and your body will naturally turn off its a survival mechanism.
But yes I do believe his lower brain was connected to a minor degree just because of the angle of the shot, from behind, over his right shoulder. It’s a professional hit. Because it’s maximizes lethality. You get maximum blood loss and central nervous system damage. It’s probably the deadliest shot you can make. Bullets can ricochet off the skull, even high powered ones.

>>516086924 (OP)
depends really on your definition of 'dead' because medically it has a really specific set of criteria. but yes the loss of blood to the brain basically instantly shut his lights out via hypoxia.

>>516095561

His wife looks like Ms Piggy

>>516090145
You are correct the best theory tards are nogunz factors of the highest order. A 30-06 is going to punch through any soft vest. Any heavy duty vest would be clearly visible. This was a direct hit.

you can see the mufuggin bullet hole

>>516088201
>Would he have survived if he wasn't wearing the vest?
No, because he wasn't wearing a vest

>>516086924 (OP)
the fuck is this magical vest shit you retards keep yapping about? its a fucking .30-06 a vest aint stoppin shit ya nogunz faggots

>>516095535
Could be , you know his spine got evaporated , i know first hand how devastating 7.62x51 rounds are
30-06 is pretty similar
I pray for the kids and family , he didn't deserve this

>>516095758

This is demonic

>>516088969
with the exception that there's still to this day speculation as to whether or not beheadings allow for the victim to be conscious for a very short time immediately after.

i.e. historical accounts of heads appearing to try to speak after being decapitated, opening and closing their mouth - although it might just be reflexive signals being acted out - before they eventually cease all activity.

This was probably faster, as many others point out - it was nearly instant lights out, the shockwave would've knocked him unconscious if nothing else but also most likely severed the spine or lower brain stem, cutting off contact etc etc.

>>516092320
They don't pronounce you in an ambulance dumbass.

>>516086924 (OP)
Not instantly but probably in less than half a minute, such severe blood loss a second after the wound didnt stop after he fell, it kept pouring and it was on a vein that cant be effectively compressed without medical devices and trained profesionals, if the kinetic energy didnt kill instantly severe blood loss did in less than 30 seconds.

>>516086924 (OP)
Should have used a house teletab.
Anyway, he's just in Lumbridge now.
Did he have good loot?

depends what you consider dead
based on near death experiences people can be physically dead but still be having an experience.
so it depends whether you believe this is people actually going to a different realm or the last physical actions of the brain before total death.

I say that no matter whether there's an afterlife he likely had some kind of "experience" of dying after he was unconscious.

>>516095131
The carotid artery goes to the brain. The jugular vein comes from the brain. Arterial blood is bright red and veinous blood is dark red.

>>516095511
Look up decorticate posturing or read the thread idiot. He was posturing so his brain was clearly catastrophically affected. Either brain stem obliterated or spine severed.

>>516095911
There is a few seconds of brain activity after decapitation.
The most humane death would be quick head crushing. But that is extremely gruesome.

>>516095633
>Who can say the bullet didnt sever the spinal cord
That might've happened. But I think the rapidly expanding cavity, which then immediately snapped shut, would've been more than enough to render him unconscious

>>516094102

Agonal breathing is some creepy shit

>>516089368
This is 100% proof the killer was standing below him. How come no one has exmanined that footage. Clearly Tyler is innocent and will walk.
Tyler running off the room with no gun was all just a red herring so the real killer could get away.

>>516095911
He had a peaceful resting facial expression just before the hit, and none of his facial muscles moved an inch, so the "severed head still alive" doesn't make sense here, he would have grimaced or attempted to grimace if it were so, but his peaceful expression was totally unchanged while bleeding out massively.

>>516086924 (OP)
Tim pool got fed bad info. Maybe his source wanted to belive it. Not only are we seeing catastrophic bloodless but the way his body sizes up indicates spinal damage. He may have felt something but I don't think he realized what happened. Not enough time.

>>516095975

1 you’re canicuck. 2 if that was the case they’d pronounce him dead at the hospital and not gone into surgery.

>>516096088
You think his brain wouldn't get shook by a high caliber bullet punching into the structure that supports his head? I know all about fencing posture. People go into it from a punch. No penetration of the brain is necessary.

>>516096207
Seen folks do it after stopping CPR. Always freaks every one out who has never seen it. Spooked my ass first time seeing it too. Turns out it's a brainstem reflex, so one of the last thing a brain does before it dies and stop sending signals to the diaphragm.

>>516096170
Yeah, google will naturally tell you there isn't but I find it hard to believe that upon decapitation, there wouldn't be a few seconds or so where you are still conscious and lucid.

The one that mostly convinces me is I believe it was a French lady whom upon decapitation, her head was picked up by a man and he slapped her cheeks, upon which he apparently made an angry grimace while looking at him, that and I suppose Boleyn appear to try to speak after the decapitation are probably the more famous examples.

But for it's time, Decapitation was probably one of the more humane and quicker ways to go given that it wasn't completely botched as supposedly happened often enough.

Point was rather that in Kirks case, it was most likely much faster, instantly lights out due to the shockwave regardless of whether his brain activity ceased immediately or not, he wasn't consciously alert to feel it, I think.

NDE stuff and being "spiritually" aware of what has happened, as has been reported many a time is something else and something we'll never know if he was aware of in this case.

>>516096263
Yes, I agree - my point was exactly that to compare it to a decapitation is not entirely accurate. I am of the opinion that this must've been instantly lights out, no "unnecessary" additional pain etc etc.

>>516096170
You ever saw that .51 cal execution by Dhsk machine gun to the head by some ragheads?
His head exploded, now that was instant death, not feeling shit type

>>516096384
You might be mixing things up, decorticate posturing always results in permanent paralysis and almost always in death. The very low percentage that survive it are guaranteed to be left paraplegic. This posture is what Charlie was exhibiting.

>>516095188
You've been psyop'd.

>>516096088
You’ve clearly never shot something and killed it. You’re speaking from second hand evidence, not your own personal experience. Instant blood pressure loss causes the brain to seize the body. You can punch someone in the side of the neck and their body will do the exact same thing as Charlie’s because of the pressure wave forcing the blood up into the cranial cavity triggering the survival mechanism of instant seizure.
Stop acting like you are expert on something you clearly have no first hand knowledge with.

>>516096733
See >>516096683
"Seizing up" is a fucking broad term, what Charlie exhibited was an extremely specific form of posturing that is consistent with catastrophic nerve damage.

>>516092320
>He obviously didn’t die instantly if he pronounced dead at the hospital

only an MD can pronounce someone dead. you can be dead at the scene only if the circumstances are absurd, like complete decapitation or squished into the asphalt like a bug after being hit by a bus

The physical reaction to the shot is evidence of major neurological damage.
Considering the area of the wound in the video the only logical conclusion is brainstem damage,

>>516092402
>He lost almost ALL OF HIS BLOOD on camera in a couple seconds
That's actually impossible lol

>>516096214
Stop muddying the water glownigger.

>>516096887
It's possible with a huge fucking hole in your neck right where your carotid artery used to be. Idiot.

>>516096880
Do you know what semantics means?
Autistic people get hung up on them, that why they have a hard time in real world situations. Have you ever been tested?

>>516095536
Many states have higher minimum wage than the federal baseline such as New York, nigger.

>>516097113
You might actually be retarded, you dumb nigger.

>>516096683
It didn't look like decorticate posturing. That's close to the body and with the hands rotated inwards. Charlie's arms were further from the body, like the fencing response

>>516097381
Attack the person not the argument.
Classic…

>>516097443
You might be blind bro. Read the thread, there's like a dozen people also posting about decorticate posturing independently of each other. He doesn't do anything remotely like a fencing posture.

>>516097443
Thank you posting this.

>>516096733
100% this

Not sure where folks are getting ideas about the bullet hitting the spine or the brainstem from - sudden blood loss alone is all that is needed to cause everything we saw after he was shot.

Anyone reading these posts who is skeptical, for real, go look up how deer kill shots work. That shit will make you a better hunter too. The more you know and shit.

>>516097113
The details matter and Charlie's arm spasm looks exactly like every head shot and skull crack I've ever seen and not like a lot of instant blood loss deaths.

>>516097467
You were the one who called me autistic instead of addressing the claim that he didn't just do any "seizing up", but he seized up in an extremely specific way that is 100% correlated with catastrophic neural damage.

>>516097539
If you agree with that anon then you're also blind. Just looking at this thread it's only two of you arguing it's fencing posture and 10+ people saying it's decorticate posturing. You're simply wrong.

>>516096733
How many animals have you shot that are physiologically consistent with apes?

we aren't talking about tensing up. We are discussing a specific reflex that only occurs with a serious TBI. Their bodies will not do what Charlie's did without a TBI. If you punch someone in the neck, where the spinal cord meets the brain stem, and you get a similar response, its due to neurological damage, not any kind of blood pressure impact.

If it was related to BP loss, we would see this well documented response in heart attack victims, syncope sufferers, and more. We don't. We only see it in TBI.

>>516088502
Explain why his shit zoomed all.over retard go take a cops dick up ur ass if u belive the liars he had a plate or soft vest on was known to wear them all the time because he was a scared pussy and so was his wife with the millions in grift they pulled off when in human history has air force 2 been used to exfil a dead body shooter has no gun down his pants in any video or photo lmao the kid will walk no evidence fbi is liars the shirt would not whiplash unless bullet hit a plate or soft armor simple as

>>516096955
All of your blood doesn't pass through your carotid artery in 2 seconds. It takes a minimum of 20 seconds for a blood cell to fully circulate your entire body. All of your blood can't be 2 seconds away from the same point

>>516097536
Decorticate posturing looks like the top one

>>516087196
>>516087036
yep, neurologist here, the immediate drop in blood (and maybe cerebro-spinal fluid) pressure will cause a black out right away, he died relatively painless, the shot not only severed an artery (blood going to brain) but also the jugular (blood leaving the brain), so the drop in csf was significant

>>516097853
I said ALMOST all of his blood, and you don't have to take couple seconds to literally mean 2 seconds. I'm pretty sure he lost over 80% of his blood volume within 10 seconds.
>>516097938
And clearly that is what Charlie was exhibiting.

For comparisin this is fencing

>>516097615
what are your credentials swedanon?

I had a chat with gpt, i agree with the decorate but how did the brainstem get hit? It was a bit wishy-washy about whether the force of the impact in the neck could have cause the brain damage. Though given the heavy bleeding we can probably deduce the bullet was some kind of hollow point with heavy stopping power.
The other option would be fragmentation by hitting a vertebrae or something.
Also, if it hit the spine, /rekt/ university tells me his lower body would go instantly limp, same speed as he went decorticate

>>516097853
He became unconscious is the right answer.

>>516097573
A highly trained assassin will never take a skull shot for the only reason that the skull is rounded and can deflect bullets, even high powered one. If you want maximum penetration with no chance of deflection you go for soft tissue. What soft tissue hit will give you maximum lethality? The neck.
He was shot through the neck from behind his right shoulder, most likely hitting or triggering a nervous system reaction. I’ve seen this shit dozens of times on different animals.

>>516098149
You're right that brainstem damage is only one option, the other is nerve damage (nerve/spine getting severed)
I'm leaning towards brainstem damage because his peaceful facial expression from before the bullet hit didn't change an inch, no facial movement at all, I would expect at least some grimacing or twitching if it was "just" nerves around the vertebrae getting damaged, even if he would have lost consciousness in 1-2 seconds from the blood loss, it would have been enough time for his face to move

>>516098149
It was a 30-06 round. Same round used in the ww2 garand service rifle and BAR squad automatic.

This is the shock and cavity a pistol bullet opens in flesh, imagine a serious rifle calibre.

>>516086924 (OP)
He was likely brain dead instantly. The reaction his arm and shoulder did was involuntary spasm caused by the temporary cavity created by the 30-06 flying through his neck. Indicating damage to his brain stem.

I'm guessing the hospital stabilized him and told his wife he is 99% a vegetable and she told them to pull the plug and pronounce him dead.

>>516097692
It doesn’t matter. We are all biologically similar with the same functional systems. It works the same way. If you shot an elephant in the neck and hit the artery, it will do exactly what Charlie did.

>>516098149
>what are your credentials swedanon?
Being a massive faggot mostly

>>516098024
This!

>>516097692
That's actually a fair point. I've only seen posturing like that after someone has had time to develop anoxic brain injury from blood loss. Tbh, was surprised to see him do that as he was falling out of chair. Seemed like it would take a minute to start.

Without an autopsy, we are kinda just making best guesses I suppose. But that posturing 100% looked decorticate for anyone wondering.

>>516098682
>He was likely brain dead instantly. The reaction his arm and shoulder did was involuntary spasm caused by the temporary cavity created by the 30-06 flying through his neck. Indicating damage to his brain stem.
Yes, all agreed
>I'm guessing the hospital stabilized him and told his wife he is 99% a vegetable and she told them to pull the plug and pronounce him dead.
Doubtful, with that blood loss, he was well and truly dead

>>516098773
See >>516098794

>>516087213
You can see his nipples in one of the other images.

Additionally a thin soft vest isn't deflecting a high power rifle round at roughly 120 yds.

>>516098378
How many times do you have to walk around your house and jiggle your door knob before you can go in?

>>516098939
What did you say about making insults instead of addressing arguments? What is your problem?

>>516087344
braindead =/= dead
A body doesn't die until certain benchmarks which are arguable
Yes he was unconscious and unaware but the cells in his body were still working and alive for literally hours after.

>>516087368
fpbp

>>516099008
Not an insult, just a question. Did you find it insulting?

>>516099110
>Yes he was unconscious and unaware but the cells in his body were still working and alive for literally hours after.
Cells need blood to live. Did you see how much blood he lost? Did you even watch the video?

>>516099186
With such replies you are only proving to the world that you're a clueless fucking moron.

>>516099260
>t. clueless moron

>>516099260
I love you too.

>>516099382
Why are you even responding to me? You didn't even engage in this debate.

>>516091066
It is clearly the necklace and people have pointed that out since the day he was killed.

>>516099602
You tripped my bs detector, faggot

>>516099110
>Brain dead=/=dead.

After brain death you are basically a vegetable. LoL

Also You can artificially keep the body part alive for long.

But the actual "you" is long gone.

>>516099651
BS about what? Care to offer a counterargument to anything I wrote about decorticate posturing? And why single out me when 10+ others argued the same in the thread? You're pretty weird.

>>516099219
Still takes 5-10 minutes for brain cells and minutes to hours for other cells.

Scientifically
Death=brain stem death.

>>516090145
It didn't bounce, but rounds can spall on the armor and then parts defract in all direction some going up towards the neck. People acting like the entire bullet ricochet are morons.

>>516099671
yeah but Kirk family would have kept his body alive for ever. Don't they also do that with brain dead babies? Life is sacred!!
In fact, he would be 'live' streaming right now in that chair while brain dead

>>516099602
Because it’s pointless.
It’s doesn’t matter if he was hit in the neck or the head. He’s dead.
You are trying to get people lost on semantics and obscure the reason. If he was shot in the dick and died, it’s irrelevant. He died because he was a threat.
What should be discussed is who he was a threat to, and why.
You are a sidebar soft distraction and I’m starting to think you’re a glownigger.

>>516099866
This! Fucking this!

>>516087198
fencing response. he was more than likely out a second or two after he lost blood pressure to his brain from all the blood loss.

>>516100108
I'm not working for a three letter agency. Mossad is more than three letters.

>>516100357
It’s too late Moshi, i’m on to you.

>>516090655
He was brain dead. His body was still doing involuntary functions. The emt was probably erring on the side of caution and had him sent to the hospital. They continued to give him units of blood while providing cpr. Keeping the juices flowing.

Arrives at the hospital and er quickly start to perform surgery for neck gun shot wound. Time is of the essence so they don't have time to ask questions or think just do. Once they got in they probably realized he wasn't going to make it. Finished up their work and told his wife. At that point he was either going to be Terry shiezo, have the plug pulled, or crash. Not sure if his wife pulled the plug or he crashed.

>>516095691
true and fact checked