Thread 516090918

>>516090918 (OP)

FUN FACT: They revised all those job numbers for Biden away. So all those big numbers you see on the left didn't exist. This chart is crap.

>>516090918 (OP)
It's bad bad bad. If you're not in a protected niche like government, security clearance work, or health care you're fucked.
>just retrain in your 40s at the cost of $100k by going back to college to become a nurse
Fuck you I will not.

>>516091158
>Noooo the numbers are le fake
>What do you mean my feels isn't proof?
Damn, is that the level of cope we're at?

>>516091158
If it's a fact you have solid proof to back it up. Let's see it.

>Yang
Stopped reading there

>>516091158
Those would be the revised numbers then, dummy

>>516090918 (OP)
new nickop just dropped

>>516091412
Don't worry easily triggered newfriend, this data doesn't require any commentary.
You can just look at the objective facts

We really did have everything, didn't we?

>>516091158
/thread

>>516091281
>>516091376
>eurolib discord

>>516091158
>>516091376
>If it's a fact you have solid proof to back it up. Let's see it.

Here you go nigger.

Jobs overstated by 911,000.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/09/nx-s1-5527000/bls-us-job-growth-numbers-revised

>>516090918 (OP)
FUN FACT it's fucked everywhere

>>516090918 (OP)
>being a hostile asshole is bad for you
Film at 11

>>516091158
What jobs were created all went to browns. It's still happening even now. Trump isn't pro american because that would require him to be pro white.
He is pro Jew and only wants America to be barely functional to continue to subsidize Jews

>>516090918 (OP)
Trump doesn't give a shit about workers. As long as capital owners are getting richer and the general public are distracted by other issues it's all good.

>>516091412
t. Lal

>>516091158
No, Trump is just shit.

>>516091663
Wait, you think this is like a new thing or something?
The initial numbers come from establishment surveys and household surveys, then it's revised when the actual data comes in.
This is literally how it always works
I'm glad you got to learn something new, but holy kek I can't believe you thought this was some smoking gun

>>516091158
Weird thing hidden in the Biden numbers is that the size of the potential workforce pool increased by five million but the number of citizens and green card holders only increased by two million. The remaining three million for that twelve month period (10 month Biden, 2 months Trump) would have to be illegals. That just one year and just working age adults. Add in children and the elderly and multiply by three years of Biden (the first year still had some covid fuckery slowing things down), and you get 10-15 million illegals.

>>516091663
So you're saying the downward revision for the 12 months ended March 2025 mean that all the jobs in thay chart from 2021 & 2022 are gone?

This is high IQ stuff you're bringing to the table here

Oh fuck, not the candlesticks! fml

I had heavy dreams yesterday, it was just fucked to a point I even dreamed about the market in the US, and the candle sticks green and red were flying in the room in front of me, I was trying to move but they were holographic ans everywhere annoying the fuck out of me.

The market was falling.

>>516091670

Yep, and has been for a while. They've been fucking with the numbers for the past 4 years to pretend we haven't been in a recession. Now that Trump is in office they've stopped fudging the numbers and they're pretending that its a new phenomenon when really its just a continuation of the shit show we've had since COVID.

>>516091742

Here's the sauce, read it and weep.

>>516091663

>>516091719
>What jobs were created all went to browns

That was certainly the case under Biden. We'll see if it remains true under Trump. The deportations and the restrictions on H1B should provide jobs for actual American; but we'll see if he follows through or not.

>>516090918 (OP)
We just haven't imported enough foreign labor yet obviously. And the tariffs are hurting things. Once we get rid of tariffs and bring in another 10 million foreign workers, we will finally be able to suport UBI, free health care, and free college.

>>516091663
>march 2024 to 2025
Look at you, the good obedient miga sheep. You were wrong, as submissive cultists like you always are.

>>516091263
if you aren't close to graduating nursing school, I would spend serious time considering if you should go. The "shortage" is nowhere near what it was 10-15 years ago and the job quality has gone to the shitter for new grads. Almost all of the high quality/pay jobs are locked behind hospitals and you need to consider that in some cases that dictates where you can live and even what your wages/salary will allow you to take home.

>>516091827
Or labor force participation rate rose

>>516091956
The jobs are counted from the laborforce participation data.

>>516090918 (OP)
>>516091861
MAKE ISRAEL GREAT AGAIN

>>516091838
>>516091883

God you people are faggots. You get a sauce it shows you the numbers are shit and you keep whining rather than accepting that you were wrong.

So as you saw there were 919,000 less jobs for 2024 to 2025.

The previous year was overstated by 818,000.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/21/u-s-job-totals-revision-00175369

Is that enough sauce for you? The most recent years are at the top of the results. You really want me to keep going and show you they were fucking with the numbers in 2023, 2022, and 2021 too?

Because I'm honestly getting bored of proving you obstinate fucks wrong.

>>516091899
Boomers are dying. Health care bubble should continue for 20 more years or so.

>>516092179
No, we are non retards who actually know how this works and pointed out that your sauce very obviously doesn't support your previous claim.

>>516091956
I have no idea how you think that's connected to the size of the pool of potential workers. 1% working or 99% working has zero to do with the size of the pool those percentages are drawn from.

>>516092179
>>516092179
And again - the OP chart showed revised data already.

>>516092293
Because the pool didn't rise enough to account for all new jobs, but the percentage of the pool who was employed or seeking employment rose. So you have to net that out

>>516092179
Why are you too scared to respond to me?
These numbers _always_ get revised since they're initially based on surveys.
I guess you'll just stop responding now since you've been BTFO'd by 10 people already

>>516091722
Go to marines, to SEAL, prol!
Better dead than being a cattle for life.

world economy as a whole is in the shitter but normies still want to pretend the corona years didnt exist and had no effect on small businesses

No jobs? You jewmericans are beyond pathetic and dumb. What do you mean no "jobs" what's with the plural. You have ONE job, all of you, the only reason why you're here, the only reason why those two stupid ugly weak cringe goblins that you call "parents" were subsidized into fucking so you can flop out into this world.

The job is simple, you go fight (and die) for Israel. It's your job and I find it very weird that you claim you have no jobs over there. Maybe you're being philosophical and considering dying for Israel more than a job, more like a sacred duty or something.

Still, you know what you have to do so get going and stop slacking on the internet, mister circumciso.

Does anyone still pay attention to this bullshit about "adding jobs"? Do you also believe in the unemployment numbers being only like 8% or whatever?

No wonder oligarchs take such joy in taking advantage of people when they're this fucking gullible.

>>516090918 (OP)
There's macroeconomic reasons this is happening, but people are losing faith in currency conceptually. That's the real global economic crisis at hand.

It's the midwest and southern farmers that he fucked over the most, no more best beans to the chinks or just about any other crop, rice, corn and input costs have skyrocketed as well. Many little red caps have been burned, sad.

>>516092232
Here is the problem; long term care and geriatric care is where the majority of the growth is expected and they pay like absolute garbage (also no overtime). ER and Anesthesiology pay the best, ICU and Cardiac follow and then a whole bunch of other specialties trickle down until you hit old people. You need to have overtime in order to make nursing work as a job.

>>516092573
Yeah it's just a coincidence the economy crashed right after Trump started implementing his retarded ideas

>>516092493
Normalfags will never wake up nor care to, just make your peace with God and savor these moments of your life because by 2030 we will own nothing and be happy. Nobody's willing to do shit. Humanity will self-destruct and passively take it in the ass.

>>516092639
you are right and i am slowly getting there its just a lonely road

>>516092634
Are you trying to agree or disagree? Trumps actions are making people lose faith in the USD. Or did you think that was just a talking point?

>>516090918 (OP)
we need to decouple from globalism, no one said it was going to be easy. faggots. suck it up bitch

>>516090918 (OP)
America has finally had net negative migration for the first time in like a century. Which is better: add 10 million spics and 1 million jobs OR lose 100k spics and add 1k jobs?

>>516091663
>NPR
Nigger tier source. Would you like some Jew cock as well, Christcuck? I know Kirk would of.

>>516092493
It depends a little bit on how the country supported those businesses during COVID. This is probably the first year, here, where we have the effects of the COVID years behind us. A LOT of companies that were supported through COVID funds were liquidated in 2022-2024 when it fell away and the time for paying came. National finances have stabilized and inflation is back to normal levels. There's still going to be cuts down the road though. Especially since we really do want to target 3.5%-5% defense spending.

Global debt market is on brink of collapse; the west has been attempting to stave this off for three straight years.
Looks like the plate-spinning is about to stop

>>516093032
>would of.
would have

>>516091670
This, we follow the same pattern here.
I would appreciate some explanations from the last sane people here on /pol/.

>>516093115
The covid hoax pushed national debt to insane levels, our treasonous government went mad with handouts, it's almost as if it was scripted.

>>516093628
>our treasonous government went mad with handouts
And Trump was the worst of them all

>>516092628
Half the nurses I worked with only did 3x 12 hour shifts a week and they were living fine with their husband and kids.

>>516090918 (OP)
maybe everyone who wanted a job got one? we need to motivate all the displaced out of work people with something other than free money. they need to feel like they are part of society instead of outside of it. giving them UBI will only make the problem worse.

>>516092935
The problem with what Trump is doing is that he's shrinking the US economy and at the same time increasing the tax burden on citizens with tariffs which will slow domestic spending down dramatically, all while interest rates are high and foreign investment has been literally arrested by ICE.

>>516091376
Holy shit, what a tard

>>516093854
>increasing the tax burden on citizens except for billionaires
You forgot that little detail.

>>516093713
We went from 300 billion to where we're going over 1 trillion this month or next, there is a slight hope ours can be arrested in time once we get a proper government.. The problem with massive debt is that the economy becomes it's slave, it has to keep perpetual insane levels of growth or go straight into a death spiral. The US is in a death spiral, so is China.

>>516093713
Biden borrowing was commie debt. Trump borrowing is free market christian debt

>>516090918 (OP)
>Andrew Yang
>NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN CHINK MASTERS!!!!!

>>516091561
>objective
Hahaha

>>516093628
>national debt
That wasn't what my post was referencing but yes, correct. These 'cycles' are pushed by the central banks and the tandem gigaexpansion (as you point out with covid, a massive boost) of monetary(central bank+treasury "moneyprinting") and fiscal(gov spending) policies simply can't continue. United States has about 4 years until total default, the $2T/annum deficits with Interest Payments already have outstripped discretionary spending. The magnitude of the gigabubble expansion has crossed a rubicon. Only way to even 'stay ahead' of the Interest Payment tidal wave is to get annual GDP growth up to around 4 or 5 percent from its current anemic ~2 percent... but even that is going to vastly mega-inflate the debt which is over $37T rn. Four more years and reach $50-55T, that's Total Default.
Global debt market and confidence in USD treasuries (the default global reserve) will have imploded long prior to that

>>516094188
They're usually dual citizens.

>>516094293
>Noooo the data hurts my feelings
>It has to be le fake

>>516090918 (OP)
Haha try being canada, we shed jobs every month almost. If usa is trying to race us to the bottom all I can say is, good luck!

>>516094464
Another 2 million Indians on income assistance while we pay a third of their wages will solve that problem.

>>516090918 (OP)
>Democrat Billionaire that can't even buy a nomination has an opinion on the Economy

That's nice.

>>516094956
What's your opinion on the economy?

>>516093032
Nigger faggot is what you are. Get out old fag

>>516090918 (OP)
Grocery prices are high. My stocks are doing well so I'm unaffected. I made good life decisions so I'm happy

>>516094404
The truly frightening thing about the US debt is the clowns that are advising Trump, they're even looking at revaluing gold and piling treasuries into stable coin, even though they add up to trillions, they're tiny in comparison to the USA's problem. No one even knows what the Chinks have been up to, their financial system is as clear as bat soup but it's evident they have been shovelling money everywhere and that corruption would be at insane levels.

>>516095258
Anything that isn't a currency is basically doing well right now. Gold price is the key to the puzzle here.

>>516093713
Lol some Australian is trying to explain to you how bad things are by him and all your insane TDS can do is go "but America"

>>516095444
Yeah the idea we take SWIFT payments coming out of China and let them buy real assets is fucking insane.

>>516095258
>I got mine, fuck you
Yeah that's about the level of sympathy I would expect