Thread 516124274

Human societies have traditionally been crafted using tyrannical, irrational, and inefficient hierarchies that separate human beings based on irrelevant characteristics. The Caste system in India is the perfect example of this, being born to a certain group of humans determines whether you're an elite or treated like a suhuman forever. It makes no sense to limit ones' potential over a bullshit factor like that. Feudal Europe was exactly the same way. A genius born to a feudal village had zero opportunity or means of moving about. So much human potential was wasted because of tyranny, authoritarianism, and unnatural hierarchy.

What made the United States great was its embracement of Liberal and Egalitarian ideas. In the United States, a poor person shipped from Ireland could choose to get a job wherever someone was willing to employ him. He had absolute property rights to save and invest his capital in productive enterprise, he had inalienable rights and if a richer man killed him or robbed him, he would be punished for violating the natural rights of another human being.

It's these left-wing protestant enlightenment ideas, largely spread about via the British Empire, that created modern day America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the success of Western Europe.

>>516124274 (OP)
Those same values are also are downfall. How much human potential is wasted now by gross levels of liberalism? Throw in the liberal idea of abortion, and we're talking about worse levels of potential being wasted.

>>516124274 (OP)
Get back to me once you've studied history some more, enough to realize that both sides of the spectrum eventually lead to authoritarianism.
Also you're a Freemason cuck to pseudo-Jews.

>>516124534
Abortion is actually a net positive for society, both socially and financially.

The vast majority of aborted babies would have become drug addict criminals who grow up in broken homes. Some I'm sure will be good people, but the research suggests that on aggregate they will be a net drain on our society.

>>516124584
>Get back to me once you've studied history some more, enough to realize that both sides of the spectrum eventually lead to authoritarianism.

If you think that you certainly have not studied history enough. The American idea of a constitutional republic where every human being has intrinsic inalienable rights has been the greatest force at stopping tyranny and far-right authoritarianism.

>>516124698
You just contradicted your own argument in the op, and in doing so, outed yourself as ignorant and indoctrinated in hypocrisy.

>>516124534
> Be Racist
> Doesn’t support the institution that aborts predominantly black children
Make it make sense. Republicans should be putting a Planned Parenthood on every corner

>>516124813
If you think the foundation of America is the pinnacle of left-wing ideology, you are extremely naive and misled. You have the education level of a high schooler that has not yet gotten to more recent history.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Human societies have traditionally been crafted using tyrannical, irrational, and inefficient hierarchies that separate human beings based on irrelevant characteristics
And they lasted for millennia meanwhile the USA isn't even going to hit 300 years

>>516124698
You worship this sick "society" and "the makret"
those are your God's, bitch. Kneel down you secular faggot.

>>516124274 (OP)
>he says while creating a system of hierarchies based on oppression and being the loudest karen in the room instead of merit

whew lad, history major and you didnt notice all the historical times this has been tried and failed?

Life is hard, its harder when you are stupid.

>>516124274 (OP)
since when has believing in merit made one a leftist?
nice bait OP

>>516124830
I literally didn't do that in the slightest. You're just incredibly dumb if you saw that as hypocritical at all.

I'm against Feudalism, that doesn't mean I have to ignore tried and true facts.

>>516124987
>If you think the foundation of America is the pinnacle of left-wing ideology,

Already I can tell I'm speaking to somebody very uneducated and ignorant.

I can tell you never paid attention in class, read books, or went to college.

The fact that you view things in a contemporary lens tells me the most political analysis you do is culture war slop. You're what we call "white trash"

>>516124274 (OP)
whose history ?
which authors ?

>>516124274 (OP)
>The Caste system in India is the perfect example of this

Nice try; the caste system makes perfect sense now that everyone knows that the majority of indians are 65IQ subhumans. The 80 IQ indians needed a way to keep the barely functional monkeys in line.

>>516124274 (OP)
Reading history made you want to cut your dick off and get fucked in the ass. You are very different.

>>516125125
USA is going to last indefinitely. It's only getting stronger.

It's not hard to "last" long when the world is agricultural and stationary and barely anything changes technologially.

>>516125146
>whew lad, history major and you didnt notice all the historical times this has been tried and failed?

United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe objectively led the path in human quality of life developement over the past 200 years.

You're incredibly dumb, uneducated, and ignorant. I would forgive you had we live 100 years ago and you didn't have access to information, but now being stupid is your choice.

>>516124813
I mean this respectively
You are a mid-wit pseud who needs to shut the fuck up, stop posting, and lurk more until he understand the state of the world we live in more.
Have a nice day.

>>516125283
That's literally what left wing philosophy is.

Your trolling is sub par.

>>516125328
Caroll Quigley, H.G Wells, Madison Grant, Noam Chomsky, Daron Acemoglu, just a few that came to mind.

>>516125482
>USA is going to last indefinitely. It's only getting stronger.
By some metrics, the USA has already ended, years ago. USA won't even be named USA by 2100 though.

>>516125414
It made me realize that wanting other humans dead because they have a different eye color is pure mental retardation.

Considering your fellow humans to be subhuman because they happened to descend from a different tribe on a different mountain is also retarded.

That's not how you build a prosperous society.

op's just your typical run of the mill retard

>>516125292
You are a freshman in college, you hold no degree, and are clearly brainwashed. You come here fresh from plebbit's echo chamber and expose your hypocrisy to real scrutiny. By admitting to being a "history major" you outed yourself as an ignoramus. Being enrolled in college does not make you an expert, in fact, it makes you the opposite. You have yet to be educated to a point that you no longer engage in fallacy. In your own insecurity about your intelligence, you devolve to assumptions and racism. The irony of your statements is that you are the one who is uneducated.

>>516125581
I find it laughable that uneducated losers who never read a book in their lives think that I have ANYTHING to gain here.

I'm here to educate you, I want you to have an education. You have the information at your fingertips, ignorance is a choice.

>>516125811
You're uneducated. We call you white trash not to refer to your economic class but because you choose to ignore information that's readily available and embody white trash.

>>516125665
Yes it will. It's stronger by every metric

The only leftist historians are the ones that hate read history, like Mary Beard.

>>516125707
Race is real.
Blacks are an entirely different type of hominid.
Other races are different sub species.

>>516124274 (OP)
>human societies used to be tyrannical feudal hierarchies based around backward things like nation and God
>rational enlightenment thinking allows us to have tyrannical feudal hierarchies based around better things, like money and membership in the corrupt party cliques
>that's why I'm ideologically aligned with the left, the party of infinite immigration from countries that don't really give a fuck about left wing protestant enlightenment ideas and would kill me for my skin color

>>516124274 (OP)
Go back to plebbit ,lefty pol or discord faggot no one gives a shit about your shitty commie blog

>>516125855
>not make you an expert, in fact, it makes you the opposite.

Called it, you never went to college, you never took advanced classes in highschool, you never read books.

You can't formulate a coherent argument, your syntax structure is poor and signals no real engagement with literature.

You were brainwashed by an uneducated family in an educated small town. I don't fully blame you, but if you want us to stop calling you white trash, you owe it to yourself and us to at least TRY to seek an education. Read books, read history, stop getting drunk all the time and actually want to understand the world around you.

>>516125967
/thread

>>516126020
Money at least signals you did something to provide value to others. If my business is earning a profit it's because it's creating value, if I earn a high salary it's because someone is willing to pay me for my services. It signals contribution to society.

Political parties are democratically elected, so being part of these elite institutions comes with the consent of the governed.

>>516125856
Anon, you have no idea who you are posting with here. Your dismissal of everyone just shows how much of a fucking mid-wit you truly are.
You are much better off coming at things with humility and continuing trying to learn, rather than walking around like a pompous ass. Your inability to continue to learn from others with only hurt you in the end.
Each post you make screams "college freshman who thinks he has the whole world figured out", and buddy, I have met literally hundreds of copies of you.

Are you literally trying to sound like me?

Unfortunately you can't get into the Ivy Leagues and power unless you're Jewish or kiss Jewish ass today, so why not join us in wishing death to Israel?
Death to Israel.

I think this is Alan Dershowitz yall

>>516126310
>Anon, you have no idea who you are posting with here.

You have absolutely no idea who I am.

>Each post you make screams "college freshman who thinks he has the whole world figured out", and buddy, I have met literally hundreds of copies of you.

You haven't met me. Why don't you approach ideas with an open mind, why don't you want to learn? Do you hate education because you think we have a monopoly on it, which we do at the moment, but we want you to join us. I don't hate you, I just want you to actually read a book once in your life, be open minded. Stop thinking you know EVERYTHING when there's so much more to whatever your parents brainwashed you to be.

>you're dumb
>no you are
riveting discussion itt

>>516124274 (OP)
You being a history major doesn't mean shit. Most of the time, people who study the so called "humanistic" "" "" "" sciences "" "" "" "" " are the biggest retards around. Women and feminized / castrated humanoids with a defective y chromosome Studying history and actually understanding it, requires an iq which you lack. Also show flag, we need to ridicule you a bit more.

>>516124274 (OP)
>left-wing ideas
>property rights
pick one

>>516124274 (OP)
this is haz al dinks trying to countersignal groypers. YOU are part of the false dialectic moreso than them buddy.

>>516126143
>Called it, you never went to college, you never took advanced classes in highschool, you never read books.
>your syntax structure is poor
Can you please provide me with more examples of your hypocrisy? Your complaints about me are a reflection of your own insecurity. Nothing you have assumed about me is the truth as you are incorrect on pretty much every account. Your arrogance in assuming you are more educated than others is not indicative of a learned individual. Wise men know humility and do not call themselves wise. He who claims to be wise is actually the fool.

>>516126642
>You being a history major doesn't mean shit. Most of the time, people who study the so called "humanistic" "" "" "" sciences "" "" "" "" " are the biggest retards around

It doesn't mean I'm right about everything by default, but I'm certainly more qualified than a white trash manchild like yourself that thinks reading is gay. We laugh at you anon, but we wish we didn't have to.

>>516124274 (OP)
You didn't study history you drank koolaid

>>516126655
Property used to be something for an elite class of people, the idea that everybody is entitled to the right to pursue the ownership of property is a left wing idea.

Under Feudalism and Serfdom it was forbidden for serfs to leave and work for someone else or to buy land themselves.

>>516125855
Damn OP BTFO'd resoundingly

>>516126762
Why don't you approach new information with an open mind rather than assuming you know everything.

You have done nothing but throw untrue insults at me, defame me, lie about me, you should try picking up a book and LEARNING.

You are very arrogant for someone with such a narrow and closeminded view of the world.

>>516126788
>>516126926
Lack of education exists in Canada too I see.

>>516126561
>You have absolutely no idea who I am.
Yes I do, mr. "college freshman who thinks he has the whole world figured out"

>You haven't met me. Why don't you approach ideas with an open mind,
Because I have had this exact discussion 1000 times before with your copies, and its beyond stale.

>>516126874
you didn't read anything
>property is theft
this is a left wing idea
the left wing thought of the 19th century all involved similar ideas and what is most interesting is that every major left wing activist and thinker echoed the original illuminati plan, including the communist manifesto
here's a book for you with ample direct quotation to prove this:
World Revolution - The Plot Against Civilisation - Nesta Webster

>>516124274 (OP)
>MEMEFLAG
>OBVIOUS BOT-POSTER
Communism always has and always will FAIL

Good for you OP. Now go learn some history they don't teach in school. I'd start with some T.V. documentaries that might have some things you skipped. Then go read the fine details from obscure books few people read and Wikipedia to connect the dots. History for the masses is curtailed to fit a cultural narrative with a few warnings on what not to do. Even college courses you get cherry picked stuff. I litterally found this information out for this meme by using wikipedia as a starting point when I looked up everyone in this picture. Hours of fun and found an excellent book explaining why a civil war was needed to end slavery in America. I would have never found it from any college course. I am a centrist by the way.

>>516126874
This is incorrect. Serfs could become freemen through various channels:
Fleeing their lord's estate for a year
Obtaining freedom through military service
Buying their freedom
Marrying a freeman's daughter
Manumission
You have the most surface-level view of historical political structures. It is obvious how brainwashed to are to assume that everything in the past is bad, and everything now is good.

>>516127165
And I have had a million discussions with right-wingers, or at the very least those who reject contemporary left wing narratives.

I've spoken with the Ancap Libertarians 10,000 times and it's always the same NPC tirad.

The same "race realist" who thinks the discussion ends when you point to an IQ chart.

>>516126766
You are nowhere right. You are the archetypal uneducated retard of the humanities. All the sources you cited are of little importance. All of them are Marxist. None of them take into account many parameters, especially racial. You entered a shit university, you will come out useless and right now you are trying too hard, it seems like you want to convince yourself of something. You have no background, intellectual or educational to judge. Your only usefulness is being the slide thread clown.

>>516127184
It's very obvious that you have never read anything about history, political philosophy, or civics, and you get your views from either Fox News or your parents who watch Fox News. They exist to rake in engagement from low class people and demonize the left for the Republican political machine, that's it.

>>516125855
Hilarious, top kek, however OP is a BOT

>>516127256
You should learn about Carroll Quigley, you should learn about Chomsky, you should learn about mainstream history like who Martin Luther King was, who Roosevelt was, who Hitler was.

Just because that stuff is taught in colleges doesn't mean it's useless, you should still learn who Hitler was, who Stalin was, who George Washington was if you want to understand the world.

Yeah but america is shit, and it's a dying and ultimately....a failed yooropeeon colony, In the end.

>>516127593
>thinks Hitler and Stalin were right-wing

>>516127276
>Buying their freedom

That was only after the black plague because of the enhanced political power brought to the serfs, for most of Europe for most of the time that was not the case

>Marrying a freeman's daughter

Almost impossible because that would be a major downgrade for the daughters family

>Manumission

That required the consent of the Lord.

And this is exactly what I mean when I say you lack education, and it's not entirely your fault. You know nothing about history. You were brainwashed by your parents to think the middle ages were perfect. Everything in modern life is horrible and if only you were born 800 years ago your life would be heaven.

Education.... education.... education....

>>516127456
>All of them are Marxist. None of them take into account many parameters, especially racial.

I could have easily predicted you were a racist.

I'll just say right off the bat I can write you off as stupid, uneducated, and not worthy of debate. Being a genuine racist in this day and age requires a lack of elementary school level of education. People love to mock America but it's clear even Greece has extremely uneducated people.

I came here to dunk on stupid people, and you set me right up.

>>516127475
I have an MA in history.

>>516127737
Oh and he's illiterate as well, because no where did I say that in my post.

But again... lack of education.

Education, education, education.

>>516127606
Most successful country ever by almost every metric.

I can think of like 5 ways in which America is inferior to Europe

>Prostitution laws
>Drinking age laws
>Less walkable
>No Bidets
>Age of consent paranoia.

>>516128107
I've read a plethora of history books

>>516127856
You are aware there are many instances of slaves and serfs buying their freedom all the way back to the Roman Republic? A serf could sell any surplus crop after the lord's crop at market and could eventually buy his freedom. Much like how eventually you may be able to pay off your student loans with your history degree as I am sure you will easily find employment at a high-paying job right after graduating college.

>>516124274 (OP)
>What made the United States great
WASPs.

Diversity destroyed the U.S

>>516127593
What is taught in colleges is next to useless. Do you even know about the Civil War between Ketsalkōwātl worshippers of Nonowalka Ethnicity vs the Wītsilōpōchtli worshippers of Mēshihka Ethnicity resulting in the victory of the latter and the migration of the former to Kuskatan from Tōllān?

>>516128659
That's like if I were to say "Yeah, anyone in 21st century America could become a multi-millionnaire with a lottery ticket".

There were occasions of people being granted their freedom, but to a typical serf at the time, that wasn't really in the domain of viable alternatives.

>>516128085
You have no capacity to understand the complexities of evolutionary biology. And you never will, poor subhuman, so there's no reason to explain it to you. I have two degrees, geneticist, medical doctor and have recently completed my residency in medical oncology. You are full of shit. Stick to sucking nigger dicks.

>>516128294
What are your top 5?

>>516128659
There's examples of prisoners escaping prison, but it would still be accurate to say "a prisoner cannot leave the prison, he is trapped there"

>>516124274 (OP)
>Reading History is what made me a Leftist
you read the wrong history books

>>516124274 (OP)
Wannabe bourgeois social engineer monsters cannot be trusted.

>>516124274 (OP)
Leftists are the intelligent educated people , conservatives are closeted homosexual retards

>>516128753
To annotate, the Mēshihka are largely of pure Nāwah origin, while the Nonowalkah were largely assimilated Oto-Mangueans.

>>516124813
>yes, the Soviet Union was a right-wing tyranny

They aren’t sending their best.

>>516128753
I know about the Finnish Hyperborean war.

>>516128826
>You have no capacity to understand the complexities of evolutionary biology

Every mainstream and respected biologist completely rejects race realism. The fact that you're applying Darwin's theories to human society and trying to moronically find innate differences with people shows you're stupid and have no understanding of the complexities of evolutionary biology.

You aren't educated, you aren't useful. You're a loser who degrades other races to elevate your own failed life. You never stepped foot in a college in your life.

>>516124274 (OP)
Reading history made me right wing, because left wing systems are inherently unstable and suicidal. You see this now with the modern West, via mass-immigration. You call anyone who opposes it "racist". What you're really doing is cutting the throat of society permanently because genes are culture and are inseparable. The notion that a nation can be an "idea" is a laughing stock of pie in the sky dreaming. Genes make the society. If you import a million Somalis into Iceland, is it still Iceland? No, it's Somalia. And all the baggage of Somalia reappears in what was formerly Iceland.

What's more, leftwing systems kill themselves through their own liberalism. If you continue importing Africans and Arabs, you are not getting the communism you secretly desire. They're not going to join you in your effort. You are not going to convert them. They're going to outbreed you and impose Sharia on you. Or just kill you, since you're undoubtedly White and naive.

I genuinely believe the West needs an almost permanent state of war to weed out useless weak men. This post WW2 peace has been disastrous for us.

>>516129073
Of which the former in this case won and founded the Aztec/Mexica Triple Alliance after exiling Nonowalkah Toltecs to Kuskatan in El Salvador.

>>516124274 (OP)
You didnt read very much history then.

Human societies are formed by those with the power to form them, they dont form from osmosis.

The western world was the richest and most powerful set of nations before liberalism existed. Before the enlightenment we were like 500 years ahead of the rest of the world.

Stop wasting people's time with you half assed billshit

>>516128852
1. Tragedy and Hope.
2. Age of Voltaire
3. Why Nations Fail (although it gets more into economics)
4. H.G Wells, Volume II
5. The Quest for Security

>>516129143
Never happened/meme. Seima-Turbino Phenomenon was the Ancestral Uralic Migration to the Volga and Baltic Regions.

>>516129098
The Soviet Union was communist, which is on the far-left of the political spectrum.

I'm literally speaking with 60IQ hicks. This might be abuse of the mentally disabled.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Saars, do not redeem

>>516129309
>
The western world was the richest and most powerful set of nations before liberalism existed. Before the enlightenment we were like 500 years ahead of the rest of the world.

You very clearly never received an education or read anything, this is factually untrue.

>>516129409
I know it's a joke. It's fake history.

Liberal societies work when everyone is white and everyone wants to help eachother.

>>516129143
Plenty of reasons why a racial hierarchy exists. Niggers and pajeets are retarded, jews are subversive etc. That's not mainstream because of political reasons. You are just coping atm, showing how easily you swallow mainstream propaganda, as if it were a nigger dick.

>>516129481
It’s almost astounding that you couldn’t grasp my argument. Do you have an adult nearby who could help you?

>>516129669
Joke understood... You must realise pretty much most migrations are hostile if not initially eventually.

>>516129963
Especially with cultures which refuse to assimilate/intermarry.

>>516127593
Chomsky is the idiot who wrote the End of History. The only good book he wrote was Manufactured Consent. 1st person you mentioned is a literal who. The rest has mainstream sources that amplifies them as heroes or villains.

Martin Luther King a civil rights leader who was also a secret communist and had orgies. He was killed by the CIA before starting his next project "The People's Movement" when blackmail threats didn't work.

Roosevelt literal Shabbos goy and got STD type polio. He was looking for ways to get America involved in WWII. Had all the expericed radar technicians on extended shore leave durring Pearl Harbor.

Hitler's mother worked for the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds have a history of funding both sides of a war. Did they teach you this in college?

>>516124274 (OP)
>Feudal Europe was exactly the same way.
So the European Manorialism functioned exactly like the Indian Caste system? Yup. That's a college education right there and why nobody should care about what you think.

>>516129386
Not bad but you might want to read some more small scale stuff, look at some individual trees instead of flying over the forest that sort of thing

>>516129612
Africa and the Americas were in the stone age when colonialism happened. The smattering of Arabic settlements on the east coast of Africa does not mean Sub-Saharans were advanced. It's actually proof of the opposite: The only reason blacks were there was because that's where the slave markets were.

Technologically and culturally, the West was absolutely centuries ahead at one point. China, Japan, and the rest of Asia were in the medieval/iron age era when the Portuguese arrived.

>>516124274 (OP)
Yeah, that's normal. Education tends to show you how tyrants try to bullshit you and while both sides do this the GOP has been doing it a lot more over the last 20 years.

>>516129098
It was, socialism is a tool to train people into communism which is slavery to the state. In more modern times, investment bankers have adapted socialism to bolster support neoliberal capitalism.
The fucking communists don't know it though, and when you tell them, they're too stupid to understand.
And that's what makes one a leftist. Being a fucking retard.
Liberals are awesome, but the modern leftist trash is a mob of retards.

>>516130168
>Born a peasant, die a peasant.
>Born untouchable, die untouchable
Sounds pretty similar to me.

>>516124274 (OP)
why are leftists always obsessed with obsession in service of something inhuman

>>516124274 (OP)
Your argument is a bit disingenuous. There's a difference between 1700's liberalism (people should have the right to their own thoughts and their own lives); and 2020's liberalism (allow me to trans a baby or you're a bigot).

Leftism has collapsed under the weight of its own open-mindedness. Because they built a brand as the umbrella for all ideas; they have built a culture where all ideas are treated as equally valid. And such nonsense can't hold forever; as the current societal collapse shows

>>516130162
FDR being a syphilitic homosexual makes sense since he was tasked in ratting out homosexuals in the U.S. Military. This is literally what he did until he was stricken with the "Polio" which is when he entered politics.

>>516130168
>Yup. That's a college education right there and why nobody should care about what you think.
The problem with these people isn't just that they're wrong. It's that they're inoculated against all outside information. They're trained to believe a certain way, and aren't interested in hearing anything else. It's the hallmark of brainwashing.

What's more, they refuse to entertain the idea you had the same indoctrination they did and later broke out of it. They think they're right, you're wrong, and that those lines have always been set in stone. They cannot comprehend they're just an earlier version of what you are now. They refuse to believe it. The big difference being you realized your college professors were lefties and full of shit, whereas they haven't gotten there themselves, yet.

>>516129849
Imagine expecting anyone to think you went to college, let alone are a medical doctor, when you casually say "niggers and pajeets are retarded, Jews are subversive".

>>516129950
This is your first post, you haven't made an argument.

>>516129963
That's why I only want to bring in the high IQ civil ones.

>>516130162
>The only good book he wrote was Manufactured Consent.

Funny because that was his only garbage book. It was common sense repackaged as something revolutionary. And it's not even particularly conspiratoral, the idea is that the media is funded by advertizers and advertizers often have political agendas, it's as vanilla as it gets regarding new information.

>The Rothschilds have a history of funding both sides of a war. Did they teach you this in college?

Literally everybody knows this. Everybody.

>>516130168
>>516130580
You two are perfectly incapsulate my point.

Our education system failed you. You take pride in ignorance, in not knowing your own history.

Rather than approach me with an open mind, you refuse to entertain my ideas.

You realize many of us used to be uneducated like you? I used to be a brainwashed hick myself. I used to believe stupid easily disprovable myths that only Fox News believers watch.

The difference is I was willing to open my mind to new ideas. You should try it, consider that maybe you aren't right about everything. The lack of education isn't your fault but choosing to not read about other ideas and expand your horizon is your fault.

Read books and THINK

>>516124274 (OP)
Back to your loo, poo

Being a jeet made you a leftist

>>516130418
"And with my left wing horseshit, every person stands equally low, and all are peasants. But I'll tell everyone they'll be a king one day to make my beliefs reality"
--Every Leftnigger Ever

>>516130669
Yea, that's exactly the case. I firmly stand by my beliefs, I even participated in a demonstration against I participated in a demonstration against the reception of illegal immigrants, in front of their boat, while other retarded colleagues, mostly women and eunuchs like you, were trying to help them. Show flag now nigger. Why are you ashamed?

>>516130669
To be honest maintaining your own people's health while being cordial with neighbours is top priority. How can you trust people you assume much from but know very little of?

>>516130911
>Our education system failed you.
I make six figures. And you genuinely believe I didn't hear the same arguments while in college, which is just arrogance on your part. I heard them, and believed them, and then discarded them because they were wrong.

It's okay, you'll grow up too.

>>516124274 (OP)
kys poo

>>516124274 (OP)
learning about the hedonist epicureans letting Rome get overrun with barbarians taught me that leftism is the stage of gangrene in a dying country
also saged because memefag b8

>>516131132
I had your exact beliefs. I thought Europeans were superior, I thought Liberalism was bad, Democracy was the "God that failed". I was sympathetic to traditional European monarchs.

However, I realized how silly and childish those beliefs are and discarded them. I realized that there's a reason no respectable person actually argues for them, and race realism talk will have you tossed from any civil discourse.

I grew up, you should too.

>>516131460
>edonist epicureans letting Rome get overrun with barbarians taught me that leftism is the stage of gangrene in a dying country

Learn to troll better.

>>516131097
Except that's unironically what America was.

A man could come and get a job as a farm worker or facctory worker, save capital and by land, he could start his own business, he could craft his own destiny.

>>516131460
It began with the enfranchisement of Punics and Palmyrans and the subsequent Semitisation of Rome, the Illyro-Romans were a hiatus to this as they were of good stock. Then the Dacian Emperor and Goths came along and it was quite over.

>>516131526
You're the one calling anybody that disagrees with you "white trash." Heed your own words instead of being a massive hypocrite, it will make you appear more intelligent.
The knowledge that you will probably end up teaching children is terrifying. That is, if you get a career related to your major. However, most history majors end up working in unrelated fields due to lack of opportunity for graduates in the are of study.

>>516131782
>It began with the enfranchisement of Punics and Palmyrans
epicurean hedonism caught on early in the Imperial Family
the leftist faggotry consistently diminished all gains made by stoics and later Christians like Constantine the Great

>>516129612
... why do you think we dominated the earth in the age of exploration then?

Because we WEREN'T ahead of the rest of the world?

>>516131865
You're the one who said "You have the education level of a high schooler that has not yet gotten to more recent history."

Why don't you actually consider arguments rather than resort to insults and mockery? Bullying will not gain you any respect.

I used to be very much in favor of free speech but i think the fact that we allow you to say this shit with zero consequences is an embarrassment.

>>516131655
Indeed. Now it's over regulated and over taxed and leftists don't want to give up their regs and gibs.
In addition to that the liberals turned to liberal capital and gifted the prosperity of the US economy to foreigner nations.
So, now it kind sucks and lefties in dresses are shooting everyone they don't like.

>>516132347
>In addition to that the liberals turned to liberal capital and gifted the prosperity of the US economy to foreigner nations.

This is completely false. Free trade benefits both sides.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Human societies have traditionally been crafted using tyrannical, irrational, and inefficient hierarchies that separate human beings based on irrelevant characteristics.

You failed at reading history.

>>516132191
Couldn't undo the legacy of Caligula which Nero and Elagabalus cemented. Rome survived for too long for what it was worth even with Good Emperors like Claudius and Trajan.

>>516130497
Roosevelt was the assistant head secretary of the navy during WWI. He got polio in the 20's after the war. However he was in political limbo in 1921 after he lost an election in 1920. I think he had higher priorities during WWI.
>FDR being a syphilitic homosexual makes sense since he was tasked in ratting out homosexuals in the U.S. Military.
That could be what he was doing while he was waiting for another opening. I just assumed it was a hooker he fucked at a Masonic lodge.

>>516132722
The very fact that my statement was not already intuitively correct as a basic fact proves to me the education system has failed you.

>>516133091
FDR wouldn't have hired a prostitute, Elonor Roosevelt was very against prostitution and criminalized it in japan after the war.

>>516129143
>Every mainstream and respected biologist completely rejects race realism.
Nah they do research about niggers being stupid they just aren't allowed to discuss what is to be done about it. I think you need to take a chill pill and stop pretending you aren't American.

>>516124274 (OP)
Your flag makes your whole Jew post suspect.
The word liberal absolutely has a different meaning today than it did when the word was coined. Just like the word Nazi, or fascist, democrat, and it’s always the left that chances the definition of words.

>>516124274 (OP)
On historical scale USA and modern western world is an anomaly.
Social eperiment concoted by masonry and kikes and it's dying as we speak.
Read history before 1600s you fucking memeflag nigger shill. Saged

>>516130911
I use education as a starting point then I do my own research and cross check sources. Yes even the forbidden history. Some conspiracy theories are true.

>>516132495
Just shut up , youre an embarrassing shill

>>516133708
>it's dying

It's only getting started.

Read history, read books, stop just using tiktok for your info.

>>516124274 (OP)
Too bad you're just a retarded leftist nigger lover who carries jew water with every post you make, faggot.

>>516124813
Anon, if you've studied history, what do you know about reactionary movements?

>>516130911
>Read books and THINK

OK. I hate everything about Weimar Republic. Why would you want to revive this shit?

>>516133091
I reckon the Jews at the Federal Reserve blackmailed him over a candid photo which is when he played ball since starting with ratting out other homosexuals. The only explanation for an Elite New York Dutch getting such a humiliating job.
>>516133233
Makes even more sense, she was his angry beard.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Reading History is what made me a Leftist
Then you havent read enough of it.

>>516133233
https://youtu.be/jybQ5TB9lrQ

>>516126610
Lul

I'm a history major and reading history made me right wing.

>>516134020
Ah, here it was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_sex_scandal

>>516130162
>End of History
That was Francis Fukuyama, you knob

>>516124274 (OP)
>History Major Here
Congratgulations, you're going to fail
>A genius born to a feudal village had zero opportunity or means of moving about
Not true. There are numerous accounts of low born people making something of themselves
>In the United States, a poor person shipped from Ireland
Was discriminated against on the grounds of him being Catholic. So much for "protestant enlightenment" eh.
Do you read history or do you just close your eyes and imagine what it was like whilst masturbating?
>It's these left-wing protestant enlightenment ideas
Actually, Jefferson on "The Origins of English Individualism" traced all the so-called "Enlightenment" ideas you're trying desperately claim are left-wing to the times of Ancient England. Already notions like property, trial by peers etc were understood by the average peasant.

Study harder, dickhead

>>516134438
Both parroted it. Likely an Illuminati thing.

>>516133874
I mean I could go into a lot of detail about the rise of Nazism and Fascism but to be very concise, they sprung about by the lower middle classes in disenfranchised European States who felt humiliated by previous events and believed they could restore their former glory with authoritarian nationalism and industrial policy. It was initially an alliance between radical leftists and who we would today call nationalists. Mussolini started off as an Anarchist union supporter, Hitler was also very economically left until he was bought out by German industrialists in the later stage of his political campaign since he needed their support.

>>516133986
I think the people in Weimar had a great degree of sexual freedom. We should have the right to do whatever we want with our own body.

>>516134071
You know nothing about history.

>>516135026
>Was discriminated against on the grounds of him being Catholic. So much for "protestant enlightenment" eh.

Ah, another pesron who knows nothing about history.

>>516124274 (OP)
>What made the United States great was its embracement of Liberal and Egalitarian ideas.

Then explain why Europe conquered the entire fucking planet while under Superstitious Authoritarian communitarianism, and then became a failed continent once it embraced egalitarian liberalism

>>516136365
That would be you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Catholicism_in_the_United_States

Back to college you ignorant dickhead

>>516124698
Yes yes, we read Freakonomics too. Abortion is a bandaid solution for a disasterous culture of sex without commitment aka premarital sex. Read pic related and come back to us.

This is the heart of liberalism and the heart of all these freedoms you speak of that allow a guy to start with nothing and climb up and be successful. However we never had true freedom, it was all tightly controlled within a framework and didn't allow endless immigrants to come into a country and we had a culture that enforced family formation which requires the sacrifice of total individual freedom.

>>516136520
That is you, uneducated liverpool white trash.

A lof of that shit was debunked.

>>516136516
What period are you referring to? The golden age of colonialism was after the Renaissance.

>>516136126
Like having sex with beheaded geese? No wonder why Hitler won on animal welfare.

>>516136527
he's always dead on a cross and never resurrected like they claim

>>516136716
Aww diddums the "43 posts demonstrating in no undertain terms that I'm an ignorant faggot" can't even keep his memeflag straight.
Neck yourself, faggot. You're probably trooning out already, might as well accelerate to the finish line like all the rest of you delusional worthless shits

>>516136775
Fucking a beheaded goose wouldn't even be animal abuse because a dead goose wouldn't even feel it anyway.

>>516136798
He resurrected 3 days later.

The right wing is always telling us to follow their rules, but watching over with a club they use because they felt like it. They back it up with lies. They end up hurting everyone. Or starting random wars. They must be removed from power.

>>516124274 (OP)
The ability to improve and progress is inherent in capitalism. Staying the same (equally poor) is what lefties want.

>>516136527
>we had a culture that enforced family formation which requires the sacrifice of total individual freedom.
Ironically and unironically it was not only the sacrifice of total individual freedom it relief upon, but also the sacrifice of each individual of total individual freedom that allowed it to function

Technocratic legalist fascism is objectively correct.

>>516137051
The goose's head was cut off after the penis was inserted. They used plyers to keep its beak open. French and Italian observers who visited Berlin both said that it happened as well as several German sources who lived near those places.

>>516124274 (OP)
cool story but i'd prefer to eat :)

>>516137051
44 pbtID…
Thanks for the entertainment I guess
Calling every single person in this thread uneducated trash is not a good luck when you’re getting a degree in history, kek Enjoy being a debt slave as the economy is destroyed brick by brick

>>516137558
Yeah that's fucked up, that person should be charged.

>>516124274 (OP)
Interesting. The ability to own property, that's a US original. What does the left want to do with property, though?

You specified a richer man, but it isn't just richer men who gets put in jail, but all people who infringe upon the natural rights of others. But what does the left want to do with criminals?
That poor Irish man worked his way to the top, but now that he is rich, what does the left want to do with his money?

Even more, you said the poor Irish man can decide on productive enterprises. However, that modern Irish man can't choose what charity he donates to. The government took it for "humanitarian aid" (i.e. Trans books in Europe and south america.)

I think you have some rose tinted glasses you need to remove first before you say the left is God's greatest gift to man. I may be projecting, but that's how you're coming across to me.

You idiots are proving this zoomer retard correct
There was a time where some memeflag troon got btfo' d instantly for farming (You)s
This entire thread is picrel:

>>516124274 (OP)
>Human societies have traditionally been crafted using tyrannical, irrational, and inefficient hierarchies that separate human beings based on irrelevant characteristics.
False. Seek help you are retarded.

>>516140239
1/10 troll, go do better next time.

>>516139830
>The ability to own property, that's a US original. What does the left want to do with property, though?

That's for the individual to decide.

>You specified a richer man, but it isn't just richer men who gets put in jail, but all people who infringe upon the natural rights of others. But what does the left want to do with criminals?

Jail them or fine them whatever the appropriate punishment is

>Even more, you said the poor Irish man can decide on productive enterprises. However, that modern Irish man can't choose what charity he donates to. The government took it for "humanitarian aid" (i.e. Trans books in Europe and south america.)

Those programs didn't exist back then.

>>516140367
It's nobodys fault but your own that you are uneducated. White trash is as white trash does.

>>516124274 (OP)
>The Caste system in India is the perfect example of this, being born to a certain group of humans determines whether you're an elite or treated like a suhuman forever.

Not really. Modern Hinduism is based off the British nobility system. A highly skilled person moved up in his lifetime in the same way a skilled person was grafted into nobility in Europe
Even under serfdom you could go try to be a wealthy merchant if you wanted to.

>>516124274 (OP)
these left wing ideas are staunchly in the conservative camp. You are the ones paying 4k a year to live in communist dystopia closets in big liberal cities. Progressive degenerates are end stage civilization and always have been.

>>516124274 (OP)
If you were a historian, you would be able to look outside the window in your mother's basement and literally see that neoliberal capitalism is the single functional economic system, all others have collapsed (feudalism, various populist autocracies, socialism, communism) or gone into terminal managed decline (social democracy, welfare states, universalist democracies).

In reality, you're as dumb as they come.

>>516125615
>merit
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE IF WE CLOSE USAID!!

>>516124698
>The vast majority of aborted babies would have become drug addict criminals who grow up in broken homes. Some I'm sure will be good people, but the research suggests that on aggregate they will be a net drain on our society.
We're talking about blacks by the way

>>516140766
>You are the ones paying 4k a year to live in communist dystopia closets in big liberal cities

Better than the dystopic hellside countryside of trailer trash and inbreds.

THere is no greater hell on earth than not living in a city.

>>516140833
>neoliberal capitalism is the single functional economic system

If you weren't unbelievably stupid, you'd know neoliberal capitalism has not existed for decades.

All modern political parties embrace socialism, social democracy, and welfareism. Even the political right that pretends to be for business is all about taxing the wealthy to death and giving it to the homeless. Society is committing suicide to give as much as possible to starving Africans and homeless drug addicts.

I don't know how someone as stupid as you ends up here.

Jews invented linear time and consequently modern historicity.

>>516141439
You won't even show your flag, you're probably some fucking shitskin who is going to be firewalled in 10 years when we wall off the West so you subhumans stop polluting our spaces.

>>516140605
Projection is a terrible look for you. You wasted your parents money on not only a useless degree but failed to learn anything with it. At least I’m not an ugly brown like you.

>>516142044
You never were educated, you never read books, you never learned anything.

You are exactly who we look down on.

>>516142460
Technocratic legalist fascism is objectively correct. A utilitarian dictatorship is the best form of governance.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Reading History is what made me a Leftist
You're living in the past. Welcome to the future you niggerlover.

>>516124274 (OP)
You are a retard and your only care for history is deconstructing it to fit your marxist view. You should be lynched.

>>516124274 (OP)
You can believe in humanism but if other outgroups dont they will simply abuse you and extract your resources. In a psychology major eat shit, you read when things happen I know WHY they happened big difference

>>516124274 (OP)
You are confusing leftism with liberalism. By the way, leftism is a lower class movement. Not sure why you hate those hillbillies.

>>516140550
>That's for the individual to decide.
Based on recent government owned grocery stores popping up around the country, that is no longer the case. Privately owned grocers, especially mom and pop stores, can't compete when they're forced to pay the competition.

>jail them or fine them whatever the appropriate punishment is
Not anymore, now, they release them to terrorize the common citizenry. Shoplifting gets a $1000 limit before any charges are made (and we're back at private ownership). Mentally ill people seem to be exempt from the law under the left.

>Those programs didn't exist back then
But they exist now. So at least differentiate between modern and old left.

>>516124274 (OP)
>Human societies have traditionally been crafted using tyrannical, irrational, and inefficient hierarchies that separate human beings based on irrelevant characteristics
kek. literally what the jews are doing right now to European ethnic people

>>516124274 (OP)
> a genius born in feudal Europe had no means of mobility
What the fuck history are you studying? Assuming that your intended point is that a serf could be exploited by his lord. Then certainly the same way that your talents could be exploited by your country (probably Sri Lankan or some shithole since your are memefagging). Otherwise you seem to have studied, but do not have a real understanding of feudal society.

>>516124274 (OP)
Sure you did (((memeflaggot)))

>>516144116
You can't be exploited today, you are free to quit your job at any time and start a business or join a partnership or a startup if you are being exploited.

You know nothing about feudalism.

>>516140605
Midwit faggot