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Which denomination of Christianity is closest to the teachings of Christ in the Bible and would it be compatible with being the ideological lynchpin of a contemporary nation-state?
Anonymous (ID: 2uq9HhgV) Greece No.519275450 [Report] >>519282830 >>519283508
Anonymous (ID: X+vlF2M2) No.519275492 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Pentecostal
Anonymous (ID: r6ivpKC8) United States No.519275573 [Report] >>519278973
>>519275344 (OP)
Christ never existed you mentally ill troon
Anonymous (ID: D8LXXF7C) United States No.519275635 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
I feel very comfortable saying that if your church looks like this, that ain't it
Anonymous (ID: oM3zNT2M) United States No.519275707 [Report]
>kolbrin bible
Anonymous (ID: drCSIVTm) United States No.519275778 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Orthodoxy.
Anonymous (ID: dVag6bvJ) No.519275805 [Report]
You want to jerk off to a dead martyred jew and cum?
Instead of worshipping the ghost of a dead jew you can just be a jew yourself you know.
Anonymous (ID: k5rapRcw) No.519275810 [Report] >>519276538
>>519275344 (OP)
Mormons
>inb4 seething prot fags cry they aren't real "christians"
neither are you
Anonymous (ID: RAWJ+S5R) Germany No.519275903 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Christianity is in its essence a globalist form of judaism with an emphasis on socialist morality and the fetishization of weakness and poverty. There is no white future under Christianity.
Anonymous (ID: 40yR0kV8) No.519275954 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Catholicism
Anonymous (ID: nfXBj0Xs) Finland No.519275973 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Any weirdo protestant end-of-the-world cult.
Christianity as the religion was created by St Paul decades later.
Anonymous (ID: GdRiNl91) No.519276161 [Report] >>519285001 >>519285189
Christianity is the original globohomo.
Anonymous (ID: 9pNsnHvg) United States No.519276538 [Report] >>519282739 >>519287903
>>519275810
Mormons are Muslim not Christians
>belive Jesus christ was a good prophet
>have their own book "totally real this time guys, yours is wrongs and corrupt"
>belive their "prophet" has the correct uncorrupted scripture
>ignore the rest of the Bible except the parts they like
>make women wear head coverings and can't show ankles
>weird religious garments holy unerwear/turban and shit
Mormons Are Muslims
Anonymous (ID: U29iqjmH) United States No.519276858 [Report] >>519294181
>>519275344 (OP)
There are no denominations that follow Christs teachings. Not really. Faith alone isn't enough. Especially when it's worship of Jesus himself and he said not to do that. He wanted remembered at the path not worshipped as god. Hell, find me a Christian that can actually explain what Jesus said and I'll give them a dollar.
Anonymous (ID: goosnj3U) No.519277326 [Report] >>519280975 >>519283521
Chat gpt said some kind of anarcho anabaptism or Quakerism.
Humble political advisor (ID: fGkaQ9VI) Chile No.519277446 [Report]
Lonely men visit rarely visited town or church

Am a cis straight male watch the magic

I do use the roads you know
Anonymous (ID: 7EzJ0FhN) United States No.519277541 [Report]
Avoid the ones that worship israel and trump
Anonymous (ID: 0qq8TcY0) No.519277757 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: ugfhrytR) United States No.519278448 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
>Which
Fundamentalism produced by Sola Scriptura using the literal/historical/grammatical method.
>compatible
Yes. See the Amish for details.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519278462 [Report] >>519282104 >>519283465 >>519283815 >>519288078
>>519275344 (OP)
Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.

Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.

JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.

Here's a video we made for the children.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fire-for-homophobic-message/
Anonymous (ID: QWqdNiNF) No.519278973 [Report] >>519279880
>>519275573
>beep
>boop
Sauce?
Anonymous (ID: T9jZUZPf) Germany No.519279329 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
jew
Anonymous (ID: jPTrXkdg) United States No.519279880 [Report] >>519280596 >>519281264
>>519278973
>Sauce?
Exactly. Please give a contemporary, non christian source to the existence of jesus. You can't. Apologists cite Josephus, Tacitus and a few others, but the problems with those have been explained again and again.... and they are not contemporary. If you want sources DM Murdock aka Acharya S, Richard Carrier, Robert M Price, Kenneth Humphreys. Three of those have PHDs relative studies and the other has a masters I believe. Don't think that people haven't been trying to prove the guy existed. Apologetics have been around since the early 2nd century with people like Justin Martyr.
Anonymous (ID: iIXcQCPK) Germany No.519279974 [Report] >>519286712
>>519275344 (OP)
Here you go, the machine has answered.
I told the AI to use the Bible as its basic "program", it always answers me according to scripture.

This should surprise no one. Of course Bible believing Sola Scriptura Protestant Christians are closest to the word of God. But keep in mind this doesn't mean those church organization "have it all" or "figured it all out". That's a common mistake people make in todays institutionalized world system, they think there is some institution out there that understands the whole truth. That is not true, I guarantee you that everyone who even says that they "understand all the truth" or "have it all" or "figured it all out" or something like that, they are already deceived and wrong. Nobody understands the whole truth of God, but the thing is we must always be open and ready to learn something new from the scriptures, let his word renew us and guide us, and not be idol worshipping a church organization.

Read the scriptures and study and show yourself approved first and foremost.
2Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Anonymous (ID: aCnwR7U1) United States No.519280007 [Report]
Judiasm
Anonymous (ID: vmdAh6dP) Mexico No.519280412 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Neither Jesus or God wrote the bible, Jews did
Anonymous (ID: Ed+UHByr) United States No.519280596 [Report] >>519281350 >>519283722
>>519279880
Even the most regarded atheist “scholars” don’t even try this argument because it’s so easily dismantled. I’d tell you to quit being a fucking retarded nigger but you’re probably jewish and can’t help yourself.
Anonymous (ID: QSV+M+yW) United States No.519280649 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)

Currently none
Anonymous (ID: KydVZajZ) Netherlands No.519280867 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
my specific, perfect, entirely infallible denomination of christianity.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519280947 [Report] >>519281440 >>519286794
>>519275344 (OP)
>closest to the teachings of Christ in the Bible

For that you need to go back to the beginning with John the Baptist. Jesus testimony was all about the blood which represented the Holy Spirit. The Catholics muddied the theology with perverted sacraments, first they allowed child baptism which children don't even need to be baptized because they are too young to fully grasp, let alone accept the Gospel for salvation. Since children can't understand or accept the Gospel yet, how can they make a legitimate public confession of faith towards it?

Then the catholics perverted the communion, turning it into magic ceremony that transitions a cracker and grape juice into flesh and blood. The reason this is so abominable to other christians is because it's a way for Catholic popes to exert their unlawful authority over the church and over the scripture. That only the Catholic priests can properly bless it so that they can physically manifest Jesus in the flesh in front of their own eyes(they are so foolish they believe in magic). Now you can't go against the priests or popes words or else you offend the cracker which is actual Jesus and you have given all authority to a magic cracker.
Anonymous (ID: QSV+M+yW) United States No.519280975 [Report] >>519281190
>>519277326

That’s how you know how absolutely retarded quakers are
Anonymous (ID: r6ivpKC8) United States No.519281053 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Christ never existed you mentally ill troon
Anonymous (ID: QUWFYw7X) United States No.519281102 [Report]
Catholic here, orthodoxy
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519281190 [Report]
>>519280975
>quakers
they got rid of the sacraments altogether, you can't get rid of the sacrament of marriage. That is the one thing the Catholics kept correctly and the protestants want gays to marry.
Anonymous (ID: z4lmoFxO) United States No.519281264 [Report]
>>519279880
And aside from the points you make the archeological evidence for Jesus in the actual place he supposedly lived is zero. Not one inscription, nothing.
Anonymous (ID: n1jsqYtB) United States No.519281350 [Report]
>>519280596

Bleat all you want christcattle, the jewish spell has been broken, and no amount of coping is going to put your faggot christ back on his 2x4.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519281440 [Report]
>>519280947
Anyone flying this flag is a Real Christian™

The communion represents the book(mana and bread from heaven) and the blood (the Holy Spirit.
Anonymous (ID: iIXcQCPK) Germany No.519282104 [Report] >>519282294 >>519283322 >>519284688 >>519284747 >>519286901
>>519278462
That organization is very wrong, it's not even anywhere near apostolic Christianity. Things taught by the Watchtower don’t align with the Bible at all.
The New World Translation changes key verses to fit doctrine, like John 1:1 (“the Word was a god”) or Colossians 1:16 (“all other things”), though the Greek says Christ made all things. Jesus isn’t a created angel, He is the Creator (John 1:3; Col 1:16-17).
Thomas called Him “my Lord and my God” (John 20:28), and Hebrews 1:6 commands the angels to worship Him. Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11 show that the name and worship due to Jehovah belong to Jesus. Denying His deity is exactly what 1 John 2:22-23 calls “antichrist.”
Salvation isn’t through an organization, it’s through knowing Christ personally (John 17:3) and being born again (John 3:3). The apostles never required loyalty to a governing body, only to the Lord (Acts 5:29).
Jesus warned of false prophets who predict dates and speak in His name falsely (Deut 18:22; Matt 24:24). The Watchtower has done that many times (1914, 1925, 1975).
The real gospel is simple: “By grace you are saved through faith, not by works” (Eph 2:8-9). Jesus is “the Alpha and Omega” (Rev 22:13), not Michael the archangel.

Please test everything by Scripture alone (Acts 17:11) and not by what men in Brooklyn say. The truth sets us free (John 8:32).
Anonymous (ID: LhqboerS) United States No.519282256 [Report] >>519282353 >>519283481 >>519286995
>>519275344 (OP)
Probably some Sola Scriptura Protestants because they dont have any Christian traditions that predate the assemblage of the Bible and just focus on the Bible. If you wondered what denomination was the closest to the first Christians, that would be Orthodoxy who value tradition and oral teachings and the Bible
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519282294 [Report] >>519284983
>>519282104
JWs also try to lay false claims to authority. They say that the Holy Spirit only visits their churches, so the only way to commune with it is to go to their man made institutions.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519282353 [Report] >>519282491 >>519287045
>>519282256
>they dont have any Christian traditions
There are only 3 sacraments and Catholics fucked up 2 of them.
Anonymous (ID: UX2GHZlz) Finland No.519282429 [Report] >>519282691
>>519275344 (OP)
>Christianity is closest to the teachings of Christ
Copt Christianity probably.
>and would it be compatible with being the ideological lynchpin of a contemporary nation-state?
Nope religions are just cope in the modern age.
Anonymous (ID: LhqboerS) United States No.519282491 [Report] >>519282749 >>519287150
>>519282353
*that predate the assemblage of the Bible. Just what's in the Bible. Straying from that is straying from Sola Scriptura. If Christians did it in the 1st century and it was taught but its not present in the Bible, its ignored.
Anonymous (ID: gon8zVLd) United States No.519282596 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Unironically the church of the east. Think the orthodox. Especially the churches that exist today that trace their lineage back to the original disciplines planting those churches there.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519282691 [Report]
>>519282429
>Copt Christianity
They infant baptize which came from Jewish misinterpreting scripture. Children are already saved, they don't need to outwardly confess in the Gospel until they can understand the Gospel.
Anonymous (ID: sKZbVdQb) United States No.519282739 [Report] >>519283068
>>519276538
Very accurate, also consider the Mormons had native american slaves and killed a shitload of people in their early days. RIght now Mormons in the USA are having their Abbasid caliphate era
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519282749 [Report] >>519283370
>>519282491
You can ignore truth all you want that is why the world is going to be tested in the tribulation.
Anonymous (ID: KNr12QJu) Russian Federation No.519282830 [Report] >>519283108
>>519275450
Why the fuck Russian one? Are retarded, OG fag?
Anonymous (ID: dOlOQksM) United States No.519282854 [Report]
Swedenborgianism
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519283068 [Report] >>519283270
>>519282739
Mormons allow adultery and fuck up the marriage sacrament.
Anonymous (ID: 7UyH8rNe) United States No.519283084 [Report] >>519283129
>>519275344 (OP)
The mormons ofc
Anonymous (ID: 2uq9HhgV) Greece No.519283108 [Report]
>>519282830
you don't like the russian one?
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519283129 [Report]
>>519283084
if you want your sons to be gay go ahead.
Anonymous (ID: KNr12QJu) Russian Federation No.519283270 [Report] >>519283400
>>519283068
What about mormon population, is it declaying as everyone`s else?
Anonymous (ID: r6ivpKC8) United States No.519283322 [Report]
>>519282104
Take your meds
Anonymous (ID: LhqboerS) United States No.519283370 [Report] >>519283438
>>519282749
What truth is being ignored?
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519283400 [Report]
>>519283270
population decay is forced meme, it's a way for catholics to justify flooding your country with niggers.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519283438 [Report] >>519284680
>>519283370
The truth that popes are not head of the Church.
Anonymous (ID: 2H787Pfc) United States No.519283465 [Report] >>519283948
>>519278462

JWs is a cult that preys on the desperate and impoverished
Anonymous (ID: QSV+M+yW) United States No.519283481 [Report] >>519284549
>>519282256

Sola scriptura is heresy
Anonymous (ID: broQZdrB) No.519283508 [Report]
>>519275450
>actual glownigger church
Anonymous (ID: 2H787Pfc) United States No.519283521 [Report]
>>519277326

Quakers and Unitarian Universalists are two sides of the same faggy heretical coin
Anonymous (ID: YkMeJnpa) United States No.519283612 [Report] >>519283807 >>519288375
>>519275344 (OP)
Lutheran
Anonymous (ID: jPTrXkdg) United States No.519283722 [Report]
>>519280596
>it’s so easily dismantled.
Do it. If it is so easy lay it out here.
You can't.
Anonymous (ID: BPUnnOaI) Ireland No.519283753 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
>Which denomination of Christianity is closest to the teachings of Christ in the Bible
Catholics
>would it be compatible with being the ideological lynchpin of a contemporary nation-state?
Realistically none. None of the theologically serious ones anyway. 2pbtid
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519283807 [Report]
>>519283612
Lutheran also kept the Catholic infant baptism, it's funny how so many people are so trapped in Catholic purgatory, yet don't know it.
Anonymous (ID: 3TAo6RGo) United States No.519283815 [Report] >>519284121 >>519288412
>>519278462
Pretty much this.
There are approximately fucking 45,000 denominations by the way.
Also, WTF is going on in Russia???
Anonymous (ID: 3TAo6RGo) United States No.519283948 [Report]
>>519283465
But also kind of this.
I think it has become less cultush than it used to be though.
Anonymous (ID: fX/67O9x) Thailand No.519284002 [Report] >>519286127 >>519286268 >>519288500
Is God real boys? Seems like a lot of genuine Christians in here. So though id ask. Would love to know where to start searching. I wanna stop worrying fuck
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519284121 [Report] >>519284452
>>519283815
>45,000 denominations
that is by design, God gave us a faith that gives people liberty to build anything they want on top of the Gospel of Salvation, Be careful what you build on the foundation Jesus Christ for it will be tested with fire. Only your faith in Christ will allow you to stand.

[1Pe 1:7 KJV] 7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519284452 [Report] >>519284983
>>519284121
that is by design, God gave us a faith that gives people liberty to build anything they want on top of the Gospel of Salvation,

>1 Corinthians 1:10 - 10 Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought

>1 Peter 3:8 - 8 Finally, all of YOU be like-minded, showing fellow feeling, having brotherly affection, tenderly compassionate, humble in mind,

>2 Corinthians 13:11 - 11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.

>Ephesians 4:2-6 - 2 with complete lowliness of mind and mildness, with long-suffering, putting up with one another in love, 3 earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. 4 One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.

>Philippians 2:1,2 - If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any sharing of spirit, if any tender affections and compassions, 2 make my joy full in that YOU are of the same mind and have the same love, being joined together in soul, holding the one thought in mind,

>Romans 16:17 - Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them

The Bible doesn't endorse multiple "brands," sects, "paths in life." Only one way or the wrong way.
Anonymous (ID: LhqboerS) United States No.519284549 [Report]
>>519283481
Im not a sola scriptura Christians. Im just saying if someone wants a church where everything is backed up by some interpretation of scripture, that would be a Protestant church. Having an apostolic lineage and a deposit of faith that includes tradition and oral teachings, is not what everyone wants. Some people just want scripture.
Anonymous (ID: LhqboerS) United States No.519284680 [Report] >>519284871
>>519283438
There was hierarchy in the early days of the church. Catholic pope is just the bishop of rome who believes he has authority over the whole earth. There were other Bishops besides the bishop of rome during the beginning of Christianity.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519284688 [Report] >>519284747 >>519287038 >>519300305
>>519282104
>The New World Translation changes key verses to fit doctrine, like John 1:1 (“the Word was a god”)

I want you to look at this link of over 70 Bible translations.

>http://simplebibletruths.net/70-John-1-1-Truths.htm

Besides the New World Translation, all these non-JW Bibles translate John 1:1 as "a god," "the word was divine," "the word was godlike."

Why all the "blasphemy"? Because the original Koine Greek language was like that.

This is the Koine Greek original
>kαὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

This is the hyper-literal translation
>kai the·os en ho logos

This is the translation
>kai(AND) the·os(GOD) en(WAS) ho(THE) logos(WORD).

What you need to understand is two things. First, Koine Greek had no lowercase words. It was all capital as seen above. Second, Koine Greek has only the definite article(the) but no indefinite articles(a/an).

So how does one tell the difference between God and god? Because God in the Greek Scriptures is always ho'theos(THE GOD) and any generic god is always theos. In John 1:1 Jehovah is translated as ho'theos(THE GOD) while Jesus is just theos(GOD.) The Koine Greek language is read without indefinite articles (a/an). So the correct translation is "a god." The oldest Bible manuscript in the pic up above is the Sahdic/Bohairic Coptic which was the language of the Egyptians 1,700 years ago. There language does have an indefinite article(a/an). They understood John 1:1 as "a god."
Anonymous (ID: iTd9QZte) United States No.519284689 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
The church that gives a home for the poor and needy. A church that promotes love of others even if they are different. A church that always invites people to join and doesnt have qualifiers. Thats not this. This is demonic.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519284747 [Report]
>>519282104
>>519284688
The Sahidic Coptic and Bohairic Coptic are the oldest manuscripts going back 1,700 years to Egypt. They translated in their own language "a god" because their languages had INDEFINITE articles.(a/an). Koine Greek doesn't have indefinite articles(a/an) only the definite article(the). When both subject and predicates have an article(the) they are treated as interchangeable and the same thing. A good example is Matt 13:38 “The field [Greek, ho a·gros] is the world [Greek, ho kosmos].” The field can be the world and the world can be the field. When both subject and predicate have articles they are considered the same and interchangeable. However, when only the subject/predicate have ONE article they are considered qualitative and not the same. uses 1John 1:5, which says: “God is light.” In Greek, “God” is ho the·os and therefore has a definite article. But phos for “light” is not preceded by any article. God is light but light cannot be God. They are not interchangeable. Light here is now qualitative.

John 1:1 has God as ho'theos and Jesus as just theos. Not interchangeable. So Jesus is only godlike, divine. That's why all those Bibles up above say "godlike, divine, deity." Not God.
Anonymous (ID: MfKLlrHp) United States No.519284843 [Report]
do your research
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519284871 [Report]
>>519284680
>There was hierarchy in the early days of the church
Yes, and in order to be a priest you needed to accept and teach the Gospel, Catholics don't teach a Gospel they teach magic eucharist and baptize infants. They fucked up 2 out of the 3 sacraments that are needed to be practiced by a priest. Also they force the congregation to call the pope their spiritual father which Jesus warned you about.
Anonymous (ID: dIbuvulE) United States No.519284904 [Report] >>519285271 >>519286670
>>519275344 (OP)
It's all a fucking lie, though. Plato understood the necessity of founding a nation on a noble lie (which is where Christianity actually came from), but the problem with the noble lie of Christianity is that it is fatally attached to jews and it denigrates the dignity and glory of mankind.

We need something more like the cult of the god emperor from 40k or a Roman/3rd Reich cult of state revival if you want something that serves whites and not jews
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519284983 [Report] >>519286593 >>519303219
>>519282294
This is correct. The holy spirit is only laid upon us. >>519284452
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519285001 [Report]
>>519276161
/thread
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519285189 [Report] >>519285698
>>519276161
This is so easy to prove wrong.
Anonymous (ID: KNr12QJu) Russian Federation No.519285271 [Report]
>>519284904
>Plato understood the necessity of founding a nation on a noble lie (which is where Christianity actually came from)
No retard, christianity actually came from Plato`s IDEALS.

Do you think without Plato romans unironically belivied in a fucking she-wolf, Romul and Rem?
Anonymous (ID: 9uJ3wbjw) Norway No.519285477 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
If you want the truth, check out Walter Veith on YouTube. I highly recommend his 'Total Onslaught' series.

Pic related; based Walter
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519285698 [Report]
>>519285189
Christianity is inter-national and inter-racial by definition. Thats why the national anthem says one nation UNDER god, because Christianity is meant to rule over nations as a One World Government. Individual nations are no longer sovereign, and most Christians are brown.
RayShadowLegends (ID: pcbuB1z0) Canada No.519286127 [Report]
>>519284002
Get a KJV, read it and pray often. I also listen to Christian lore videos, prayer videos, etc. Get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ when you are ready and sin no more.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519286268 [Report] >>519286669
>>519284002
Our website.

>jw.org

It is full of articles, digital books, and a search engine for all Bible related questions.

We also have an entire encyclopedia archive.

>https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/h/r1/lp-e

That is for advanced Bible students and researchers that want to study certain subjects. For example you can type in Armageddon, Great Tribulation, Soul, Hell, and all references come up
teaching in detail where those are in the Bible and what they mean.

>https://tv.jw.org/#en/home

Request a free Bible Study

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/

Find a meeting near you

https://apps.jw.org/E_SRCHMTGMAPS

Enjoy
Anonymous (ID: SdiL4XDV) United States No.519286431 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)

The Bible is an ideological assemblage of historical writings meant to govern the European elites back during the reign of monarchs. The King James Bible was a re-write of what was previously known as the Bishop's Bible, which had a lot more passages about "If your king is being a tyrant, you have God's blessing to kill him", which for obvious reasons the royals of Europe didn't like. Beyond that, a lot of early compiled writings (they were called a Codex instead of a Bible) include a lot of "heretical" information, such as frequent references to magic. Magic is even considered a method of exorcising demons in some of these early codices, including things like ritualized sex magic (yes, Aleister Crowley was actually onto something).

So to answer your first question, any denomination is the closest to Jesus' teachings in the Bible because the Bible is a selective compilation of documents depending on what's most convenient for that particular denomination's faith. There's no "authoritative Bible" because every version is missing a good chunk of writings that SHOULD be included but aren't because it's not to a particular church or government's interest that those writings teach people things like how God wants them to burn everyone on Epstein's flight logs at the stake. To answer your second question, if you bring back absolute monarchies and make them all submit to the authority of the Roman church, then sure it can be an ideological lynchpin of a government, but otherwise no.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519286593 [Report]
>>519284983
Thanks for proving my point, but guess what humans don't control God. You can't place God in a box and tell people that only you have access to the box.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519286669 [Report]
>>519286268
I like your little square box logo
Anonymous (ID: jPTrXkdg) United States No.519286670 [Report]
>>519284904
The penateuch was written using Plato. There are good interviews with Gmirkin on YouTube where he explains things quite well.
Anonymous (ID: +GnWgc37) United States No.519286691 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
The Salvation Army, unironically.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519286712 [Report] >>519287019 >>519287676
>>519279974
>Read the scriptures and study
God never said to do such thing. Nor Jesus.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519286794 [Report] >>519287627 >>519287676
>>519280947
>other christians
There is onlt ONE christianity you polytheist pagan scum.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519286901 [Report] >>519287019
>>519282104
>test everything by Scripture alone
God never said to do that. Nor Jesus.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519286995 [Report]
>>519282256
>Sola Scriptura
>Protestants
Pick one.

Where in the Bible is it written that you have to wait for the reform to be a christian?
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519287019 [Report] >>519287383 >>519287676 >>519287770
>>519286712
>>519286901
Everyone who speaks on behalf of God should be shot.
Anonymous (ID: iIXcQCPK) Germany No.519287038 [Report] >>519289513
>>519284688
In Greek, absence of the article (anarthrous nouns) does not automatically make something indefinite (“a god”). It can also be qualitative or definite, the context decides. In John 1:1, “θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος” places θεὸς before the verb (ἦν) for emphasis, a known Greek rule (Colwell’s Rule): “A definite predicate nominative preceding the verb usually lacks the article.” So John’s wording shows emphasis on quality, not indefiniteness.
Grammatically, it means “the Word was God in essence”, not “a god.”

John 1:1-3 destroys your claim:
If Jesus were “a god,” He would either be a created being (contradicting v. 3) or a second uncreated deity (polytheism). John’s monotheism excludes both. John clearly affirms that the Logos is eternal and divine, yet distinct in person from ho Theos (the Father).

“The God” vs. “God”
Greek uses the article ho Theos to distinguish person, not nature. John calls the Father ho Theos because He’s the referential subject. Jesus is Theos because He shares the same divine nature, not because He’s lesser. John 20:28 “My Lord and my God (ὁ Θεός)”, Thomas addresses Jesus directly with the article.

The Coptic translation you cite is late and regional. The earliest Greek manuscripts (P66, P75, 4th cent. codices) confirm the same Greek text used in all mainstream Bibles. The early Church fathers (Greek native speakers) all read John 1:1 as “the Word was God”, never “a god.”
If the Word were merely a god, then John 1:1 introduces two gods, contradicting Deu 6:4 and John 17:3. John’s Gospel presents the eternal, divine Logos who “became flesh” (v. 14), God Himself manifest in the Son.

“the Word was a god” is grammatically false, contextually absurd, and theologically blasphemous. The true translation, affirmed by grammar, manuscripts, and early Greek readers, is simply and eternally:
>In the beginning was the Word … and the Word was God.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287045 [Report] >>519287764
>>519282353
>Christian traditions
Revealed religion, cant be traditional.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287150 [Report]
>>519282491
>Sola Scriptura
That is not in the Bible. "Sola Scriptura" was invented by reformers later.
Anonymous (ID: pCXLx3FR) No.519287167 [Report] >>519287577
Christianity has always been a rootless raceless creed of Judaism that always gave zero shits about western culture or actively works against it. You cannot have a white nation with it.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287383 [Report] >>519287521
>>519287019
>Everyone who speaks on behalf of God should be shot.
God sends them.
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519287521 [Report] >>519287622
>>519287383
Thank you now face the wall.
Anonymous (ID: z4lmoFxO) United States No.519287577 [Report] >>519287682
>>519287167
>You cannot have a white nation with it.
There were times the two were compatible but Christianity has failed to bind whites to their nations or to each other so ultimately it has failed the test of being a religion of blood nand nation.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287622 [Report]
>>519287521
No, I'm not a prophet.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519287627 [Report] >>519287798
>>519286794
The Body of Christ (the chruch) is only one under Jesus when they place Jesus as the head of the church. The body still has many parts, hands, feet, heart, legs, ect.. Each person can have different cultures, beliefs, traditions, laws, languages, skin color ect.. as long as they have the Gospel they will stand on judgement day.

[Luk 24:39 KJV] 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

>a spirit has no flesh.
The church of Jesus Christ is a stone cut without hands, not a man made institution for God is a spirit.
Anonymous (ID: iIXcQCPK) Germany No.519287676 [Report] >>519287882 >>519287951
>>519286712
>>519286794
Do you also use this very same atittude towards the Roman church? who actually literally speak as if they are God.

Jesus himself followed scripture, he is of course out role model for being a Christian. A Roman organization that makes up a whole lot human stuff that is nowhere in preserved scripture and goes actively diametrically against the words of Jesus is certainly not what God told us to do. Rome is the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth, the apostasy prophesied in Thessalonians and Revelation 13, 17, 18. But someone Churchianity idol worshippers are completely blind to the Revelation of Jesus Christ. It's astounding the blatant double standard and hubris of this Roman harlot church.
>>519287019
Start directing your anger towards the Roman son of perdition who assumes to be the "Viccar of Christ", the representative of Jesus Christ on earth, a blatant lie and open blasphemy.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287682 [Report] >>519289708
>>519287577
Christians believe that POCs and mutts have a soul.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519287764 [Report] >>519288009
>>519287045
You can't be a Christian and disobey the sacraments. I focus on the 3 main ones to make it easier for Catholics to understand.
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519287767 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
None you desert fag
Anonymous (ID: NMBd4PLl) United States No.519287770 [Report] >>519288013
>>519287019
How about everyone speaks for our father God and with the same authority. Took care of the issue without firing a shot.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287798 [Report] >>519287881
>>519287627
>more polytheist pagan gibberish
Christ doesnt forgive gluttony you fat mutt.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519287881 [Report] >>519288072
>>519287798
>polytheist
>Christ is the Head
pick one
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287882 [Report] >>519287920
>>519287676
>Jesus himself followed scripture
No, Jesus had no Bible.
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519287903 [Report] >>519290313
>>519276538
Did Joseph Smith get ridden by Indians from the Zutt tribe?
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519287920 [Report] >>519288178
>>519287882
Jesus lived the bible, it's all about him.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519287951 [Report] >>519288020 >>519292472
>>519287676
>what God told us to do
God never told us to "read the Bible", ever.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288009 [Report] >>519288104
>>519287764
>You can't be a Christian
Christ cant forgive gluttony, you fat mutt.
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519288013 [Report] >>519288231
>>519287770
>just let everyone lie
Typical Abrahamist morality.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519288020 [Report] >>519288540
>>519287951
[2Ti 2:15 KJV] 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288072 [Report]
>>519287881
Christ doesnt forgive gluttony you fat polytheist mutt.
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519288078 [Report]
>>519278462
Daily reminder that JWs got the rapture prediction wrong not once, not twice, but three times, rendering their cult 3x more debunked than any other cult
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519288104 [Report] >>519288339
>>519288009
You can't be forgiven without the Gospel, you can't know the Gospel without learning about it. You are actually retarded bye.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288178 [Report] >>519292472
>>519287920
Jesus had no Bible.
God never said you have to be able to read.
Gluttony cant be forgiven, you fat mutt.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288231 [Report]
>>519288013
Christ forgives lying.
Anonymous (ID: kYxB1g2M) United States No.519288266 [Report] >>519288644
This entire thread just proves that Christianity is one major psyop.
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288339 [Report]
>>519288104
Gluttony cant be forgiven, you fat polytheist mutt.
You'll burn in Hell.
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519288375 [Report]
>>519283612
Reminder that this didn't happen. Dogs that bark don't bite
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519288412 [Report]
>>519283815
Chud witness
Anonymous (ID: k5/HuE9+) Slovakia No.519288500 [Report]
>>519284002
YHWH isn't real. If your moral system works only because some foreskin demon said so, it isn't a good moral system
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519288540 [Report]
>>519288020
>study
>study the Bible
See the difference?

Also, gluttony cant be forgiven, you fat mutt.
Anonymous (ID: 1PsB1Vn5) Norway No.519288603 [Report]
Anonymous (ID: iBC9dKra) Canada No.519288644 [Report]
>>519288266
The fact that religion and cult are two different word shows how psychologically deep the psyop goes. There's no reason to think they are any different, all religions are cults by definition and the meaning is interchangeable. To say someone is acting cultish is to say they're doing something religiously and ritualistically. It's the same thing.
Anonymous (ID: s918ZeJV) Ireland No.519288881 [Report] >>519289085
>>519275344 (OP)
Evangelism
Anonymous (ID: HD5zgLJe) Canada No.519288944 [Report] >>519289463
>>519275344 (OP)
Baptist or Pentecostal, make sure it's under 500 people. United are the retards that makes us all look like fags. My Baptist pastor openly talks about anti-gay stuff and denounces judaism and zionism
Anonymous (ID: FMUi9L/o) France No.519289085 [Report]
>>519288881
>Evangelism
lol that word cant even be found in the bible
Anonymous (ID: 1PsB1Vn5) Norway No.519289116 [Report] >>519289355
National Socialism would have gradually ended Christianity and allowed it to go completely extinct in the Reich had Hitler won the war.
Christianity is not suitable for defending one's Fatherland, nor is it suitable for an ideology predicated on nature, racialism and Darwinism.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519289355 [Report] >>519289736
>>519289116
that's why Hitler lost.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519289463 [Report] >>519290214 >>519301175
>>519288944
Pentecostal are ok but who wants to listen to their fake speaking in tongues horseshit?

Southern Baptists are compromised which is why I warn people to become independant baptist no one has authority over a church(other than God)
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519289513 [Report]
>>519287038
If Jesus were “a god,” He would either be a created being

>Colossians 1:15 - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation

>Revelations 3:14 - “... These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,

>If the Word were merely a god, then John 1:1 introduces two gods, contradicting Deu 6:4 and John 17:3.

Explain these verses to me:

>(1 Corinthians 8:5, 6) For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6there is actually to us one God the Father,...

>(John 10:34-38) Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “YOU are gods”’? 35If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, 36do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son? 37If I am not doing the works of my Father, do not believe me. 38But if I am doing them, even though YOU do not believe me, believe the works, in order that YOU may come to know and may continue knowing that the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.”

Jesus was quoting

>Psalm 82:1-7) God is stationing himself in the assembly of the Divine One; In the middle of the gods he judges:

>(Psalm 82:6) “I myself have said, ‘YOU are gods, And all of YOU are sons of the Most High.

Now Moses

>(Exodus 7:1, 2) Consequently Jehovah said to Moses: “See, I have made you God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet. 2You—you will speak all that I shall command you; and Aaron your brother will do the speaking to Pharaoh, and he must send the sons of Israel away from his land.

>(Exodus 4:16) And he must speak for you to the people; and it must occur that he will serve as a mouth to you, and you will serve as God to him.

Explain this heresy
Anonymous (ID: z4lmoFxO) United States No.519289708 [Report]
>>519287682
>Christians believe that POCs and mutts have a soul.
The most amazing thing that Christians believe is that there are any heterosexual Frechmen. Truly a leap of faith.
Anonymous (ID: 1PsB1Vn5) Norway No.519289736 [Report] >>519289927 >>519290073
>>519289355
Every action resulting in our current decline and replacement is precisely due to the consequences of Germany losing the war in 1945.
You are an American, which is why you cannot accept that your nation is directly responsible for the current malady of Western civilisation.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519289927 [Report]
>>519289736
>our current decline and replacement
The rainbow was the sign of Noah, it's appropriate that the whore of Babylon is trying to flood everyone with niggers but they won't win. The rainbow is proof that God won't let it happen. Notice the Catholics claim that man is causing global warming and the sky is falling, when God said he would set the Earth on fire, not man.
Messiah (ID: 0YnucEai) United States No.519289942 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
none
Anonymous (ID: P82f/O5O) United States No.519289968 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
This >519276858
Essenes are the closest to Jesus (originally John’s) message, but they are occulted.
The Pauline (Saul the Pharasee) Mithric infused bible from the nicean council is best served by Roman Catholics.
Anonymous (ID: z4lmoFxO) United States No.519290073 [Report] >>519290141
>>519289736
>You are an American, which is why you cannot accept that your nation is directly responsible for the current malady of Western civilisation.
It is responsible for much of it but the liberal countries of Europe and the EU are not innocent in this matter. The elites in Europe import Muslims into Europe to work in their factories. The UK and France were liberal societies before WWII, America didn't impose liberalism on them after the war.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519290141 [Report]
>>519290073
>The elites in Europe
yes and they all attend Catholic churches and carry a false gospel as a result.
Anonymous (ID: HD5zgLJe) Canada No.519290214 [Report] >>519290305
>>519289463
Yeah I have the same feeling about the pentecostals, their tongues is performative and makes me uncomfortable but their doctrine is still close, even if they're not interpreting that spiritual gift correctly. Its important to differentiate what kind of baptist you are,
denominations are confusing enough, I wish the southern baptists would rename themselves.
Anonymous (ID: mVIzUkJO) United States No.519290305 [Report]
>>519290214
It's a problem when you centralize authority over God. Southern baptist have a centralized council that meet and regulate what the congregation is allowed to say.
Anonymous (ID: Luj+1DZg) United States No.519290313 [Report]
>>519287903
No I'm pretty sure we just chased them to Utah by gunpoint.
At least in my home state we did
Anonymous (ID: lvd2ukq/) Finland No.519290345 [Report]
If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?

Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNo
youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
Anonymous (ID: e8a+K05f) No.519290631 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Probably one of the more out there sects like the Quakers, Mennonites, Nazarenes, United Church of Christ, Unitarians etc because they seem to hold core moral values beyond “give me your money.”
Anonymous (ID: 1PsB1Vn5) Norway No.519290675 [Report]
Every action resulting in our current decline and replacement is precisely due to the consequences of Germany losing the war in 1945.
You are an American, which is why you cannot accept that your nation is directly responsible for the current malady of Western civilisation.

https://nitter.poast.org/Ehrenkrieg2/status/1696036632229749103#m
Anonymous (ID: 9hE5LIpz) No.519292260 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
gnostic sethianism
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519292472 [Report] >>519295292
>>519288178
>>519287951
>(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,

>(Matthew 4:4) But in reply he said: “It is written, ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through Jehovah’s mouth.’”
Anonymous (ID: zgQbqqB2) Switzerland No.519294181 [Report]
>>519276858
He said Fish in his language 100% one time in his life at least now send me dollar
Anonymous (ID: VYajToqW) Netherlands No.519294748 [Report]
To be honest with you, the entire Synod of Dordrecht is effectively modern day politics, with the Remonstrants being the liberals and the Contra-Remonstrants being the conservatives. The Synod of Dordrecht is the actual founding of our modern political order, with the French Revolution being some cringe commie shit that naturally went disastrously wrong
Anonymous (ID: kWRqSzn4) Brazil No.519295071 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
It's not that the whole thing is a lie and complete bullshit, but the thing itself has thousands of variations of the lie and bullshit.

A variation for every type of idiot?
Anonymous (ID: dszr3oke) United States No.519295170 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
All mainstream denominations of Christianity are corrupt and want you to a slave to their god.

The only path is an independent personal interpretation of the bible and Christs existence.

There is no room for social control in the gospel of Jesus.
Anonymous (ID: lvd2ukq/) Finland No.519295292 [Report] >>519300399
>>519292472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h2XLyeug8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWXGMPttdxQ
Anonymous (ID: 4Js2dKy2) No.519295515 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
The Catholic Church.
Anonymous (ID: bkJmBkB5) Denmark No.519295981 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Valentinian Gnosticism
Anonymous (ID: el7FNysk) Canada No.519297237 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
The hair-shirt ascetics. There are none left. It is an ideology for losers that are content with losing.
Anonymous (ID: xUXI7h4G) United Kingdom No.519299021 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
>Which denomination of Christianity is closest to the teachings of Christ
The one you found yourself for you personally.
Anonymous (ID: YudzyLYq) United States No.519299098 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
Denomination isn't even the best metric anymore. I recommend looking for churches which are calvinist. That's usually a good indicator that they will focus on the bible. I highly recommend listening to John Macarthur if you want to learn more. (Careful of all the ai fakes though).

https://m.youtube.com/@gracetoyou
Anonymous (ID: YudzyLYq) United States No.519300305 [Report] >>519300585
>>519284688
I suspect you have been confused on the nature of the trinity. I don't know all the fancy greek but i imagine someone is telling you most Christians are no different than pegans worshipping multiple gods when they say Jesus is God.

It's actually more simple than people make it out to be. There is the father (God in heaven), the son Jesus (God taking a human body in the flesh), and the Spirit (God's presence which comes into us). They are all the same being. 1 God only presented to us in different forms.

I think no matter what we would both agree that God as the Holy Spirit exists. This is where you can find the truth. If you have never felt the Holy Spirit's presence ask yourself, why? Call to Jesus and he will come.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519300399 [Report]
>>519295292
Lol! Pic any verse.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519300585 [Report] >>519300904
>>519300305
The Trinity is a Helenistic philosophical idea and pagan belief. Not a Biblical teaching. We know this because of the definitions used to describe it: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, and persons is all Greek metaphysical terms originating in Helenistic Philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. The word hypostatic union comes from hypostasis. It is a philosophical idea from Helenistic Greek Philosophy. The Trinity can only be supported with pagan doctrine. These terms and beliefs are not found in the Bible but in Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras. The Trinity can be traced back through old triad gods, Greek Philosophy, and Hindu avatarism.

The definitions of the Trinity itself: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, persons, hypostatic union are from Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras all taught these centuries before Jesus was born. Just trace "hypostatic union" on Wikipedia. It goes straight back to Plato, Aristotle and Neoplatonism.

Think about this: If I started using word like "Means of Labor," "bourgeoisie," "proletariat," "Base and superstructure" and called myself a Libertarian you'd all cry foul and accuse me of being a Marxist and Communist. Why? Because all my terminology used to describe "Libertarian" ideology is all Marxist in nature. You would all call me a fraud.

Why not with the Trinty? That's where the entire definition of the Trinity comes from. None of the terminologies, definitions, and understanding of the Trinity comes from the Bible. It all comes from Greek Philosophy, Stoicism, Hindus, and Pagans.
Anonymous (ID: YudzyLYq) United States No.519300904 [Report] >>519302648
>>519300585
Again I'm not so educated. Most of your words will be lost on me. But God wanted you to see what I wrote. God knows your heart and is reaching out to you.
Anonymous (ID: TZb2gZuR) United States No.519301175 [Report]
>>519289463
>independant baptist no one has authority over a church(other than God)
This is the conclusion I'm starting to come to. I was raised presbyterian but the whole governing body rubs me the wrong way, like Catholicism 2.0.
JW on /pol/ (ID: R84e8/vX) United States No.519302648 [Report] >>519303234
>>519300904
I read it. It's the same Trinitarian rhetoric. Long story short: When you ask an "educated" Trinitarian to describe and define the Trinity they use educated words like Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, persons, hypostatic union. All those ideas are not from the Bible. They are from Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras all taught these centuries before Jesus was born. Just trace "hypostatic union" on Wikipedia. It goes straight back to Plato, Aristotle and Neoplatonism. That's how we know the Trinity doctrine is not Biblical. None of the doctrines used to describe the Trinity are found in the Bible. They are found in Greek philosophy. All "proof text" are misunderstood verses, out-of-context verses, mistranslated verses, and spurious verses
Anonymous (ID: YudzyLYq) United States No.519302769 [Report]
A Bible verse that i think will be relevant to people in this thread.

> Matthew 13:24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

> 27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

> 28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

> “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

> 29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
Anonymous (ID: TFwL1lsa) Sweden No.519302840 [Report]
>>519275344 (OP)
>Which denomination of Christianity is closest to the teachings of Christ in the Bible

Christianity is universal reform judaism. The version closest to the teachings of rabbi yehoshua bar yossuf (stage name jesus christ) is.... original reform judaism. Christians are judaicized goyim
Anonymous (ID: ZRTIcNYX) United States No.519303219 [Report]
>>519284983
Yeah... so tell me about God and how he is The Father the creator, The Son Jesus our Savior and The Holy Spirit the Lord the Giver of Life.
Anonymous (ID: YudzyLYq) United States No.519303234 [Report]
>>519302648
God is going to come to you anon. You will be confused. You will seek help from those you know but it will persist. He has a purpose for you. He will not let you ignore him now.
Anonymous (ID: ZRTIcNYX) United States No.519304111 [Report] >>519304214
>>519275344 (OP)
The one that declares
There is One God.
The One is made up of 3 persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
That God created all things.
That God was not made or descended from another being.
That God is the First and Last mover, is infinite and has no beginning or end.
That The Holy Spirit came down and conceived the Son in the womb of the Virgin Mary and God became man. In fulfillment of the scriptures.
You believe in ONE church established by Christ which can claim to be founded by an apostle.

The Church confessed one Baptism.
The Church that maintains the unchanging moral teachings of Christ.

The Church that believes Christ Suffered Death, was Buried and Rose again from the dead.

The Church that believes in the Final Judgment and the life of the world to come.
Anonymous (ID: r6ivpKC8) United States No.519304214 [Report]
>>519304111
Take your meds kike. God isn’t real.