Thread 519561372

What the actual fuck are Democrats doing? What is their strategy: to wait until airports close during the holidays, force people to lose food assistance, housing assistance, medical assistance programs and have their entire base turn on them? They haven't put forth anything. Nothing. What the fuck are they doing?

Having a hissy fit

Assuming that people will have no choice but to come crawling back to managed decline neoliberalism once they're tired of Drumpf

>>519561372 (OP)
What guarantee is there that Trump will keep his word?

>not realizing that both parties are in on it
anon, I have a bridge to sell you.

>Own all three bits of the govermment
>Ackchually its the democrats
Why is his party like this.

>>519561372 (OP)
The Democrats are committing suicide of their Party with increasing speed. It is fascinating to observe.

>>519561372 (OP)
The democratic party has been controlled opposition since '08. Their donors want them to fail and look ridiculous while doing so. That is the point. Why do you think they haven't had a policy agenda or legitimate primary since '08? This is why Washington threw such a hissy fit about Jan 6th. They prepared an entire system to prevent legitimate opposition to the status quo, and they did it so thoroughly that they created republican populism as a result. And pissed off the American people so much 200 FBI agents could get republicans to riot.

>>519561745
It doesn't work that way over here. You don't understand our system because you are used to having Kings and Queens ruling you. We are a Constitutional Republic, so even though one side may hold power of majority in all 3 branches, they all still must work together and forge deals, on behalf of the people.

I love how this bubble cant see that all the jew money left the left and is now on the right
keep it shut down, they cant do the jews bidding that way.

>>519561745
>Democrats vote to shut down the government 11 times
>why are republicans like this!

>>519561372 (OP)
they want medicaid for illegals. I wish I was making this up

>>519561372 (OP)
>Dumbass still thinks Democrats are the ones keeping the government closed

>>519561372 (OP)
they're too busy planning the next trump bad parade with local old folk's homes

>>519561372 (OP)
>I'll meet with you after you give me what I want and will no longer need to meet with you
This is retarded. It's like negotiations opening up with "okay kill yourself and then we'll talk" lmao

>>519562062
Well that's a naive way of putting it. Can't remember when the last time was that congress did something actually good for the people (who are actual citizens).

>>519562062
>on behalf of the people.

>>519561745
You need 60% of Congress to approve a spending bill

>>519564309
He meant to say on behalf of Israel. I also think he might be JD Vance.

filibuster needs to be done away with

>>519561372 (OP)
Trump and the Democrats and the Republicans are working together to hide the Epstein files. They'll start WWIII before they let everyone know it was Israel.

>>519564997
Is not is all the case

Or you solve this of you punish the innocent and reward the guilty

People really died in gruesome fucking ways so you say hurr durrh operational mistake

Is reality they have to deal with fucking mindreading

>>519561745
Needs 60 votes to open government. Has 55 (including a couple Democrats). It is factually, 100% on democrats for wanting to give illegal shitskins free medical care

>>519565111
Well fuck

>>519563844
Agreed. Congress has shirked their duties for a number of decades now, at least. It is because of Congress refusing to fulfil their oaths, to their fullest extent, as they are supposed to do, that ended up forcing Donald Trump, to act in the ways that he has. Congress refuses to do what they are paid to do, and so the brunt of responsibility falls to someone else to make the decisions.
Trump is doing that.

>>519564309
Yes, that is what they are supposed to be doing.

>>519565111
>The Epstein files

They need to be LEAKED.
Because they won't ever be released and I think we both know that.

>LEAK THE EPSTEIN LIST

>LEAK IT

>LEAK THE LIST.

Some hero in DC needs to LEAK the Epstein list.

Democrats have made it a habit of pretending to play by the rules but as soon as they don't get something their way they go dead fish mode and drag their feet like children. Trump's doing the same thing only with actual stakes instead of the democrat media facade of an emergency.

So they're laying there playing dead, waiting for the republicans to pick them up and trump's just laughing at them and they're starting to shake and cry and pee

>>519561372 (OP)
Maybe now Democrats will riot as hard about the Epstein-Maxwell child sex trafficking network blackmailing our government officials as they did about George Floyd.
>inb4 they riot over lil trans da baby labia fubu booboos instead
I do not respect black people. Trump has the "Pardon Diddy" card up his slaves because he knows that blacks will let him get away with raping kids on Epstein Island and starving them of their EBT and handouts if he frees their Judas goat rapper.

>>519561627
>What guarantee is there that Trump will keep his word?
None at all.
Democrats need to stand strong.
This shutdown should move well into November so that most folks will get the chance to see the massive increase of their healthcare premiums.
The fastest way for gop to reopen the government is to hold a simple majority vote to remove the filibuster in the Senate.

>>519565891
This is an excellent way to put it. Lmao.
You must be a parent with small children? That is how they and the democrats both behave. Lol

>>519566106
just observation, they've been doing this as long as I've been alive

>>519561372 (OP)
Republicans can cut food stamps and gain voters. On the other hand, democrats will only lose voters by letting Republicans cut food stamps

>>519561372 (OP)
They're actually pretty fucked. Only thing I've seen from Dems is blacks threatening to mass loot again and senators trying to garner sympathy for middle class boomers.

>>519561627
There is no guarantee. But as long as the government is closed, trump has additional leeway to close down government programs potentially permanently, and he's going to use that leeway as long as he has it

>>519561372 (OP)
Well relublicans are in control of the house senate and presidency. and only speaker Johnson has the ability to reconvene. and a majority of Americans blame the GOP just as the party in power has always been blamed during shutdowns.

>>519561372 (OP)
The government will never reopen, this is the end game.

Good luck anons.

>>519566332
About that...

>>519561372 (OP)
>What is their strategy: to wait until airports close during the holidays, force people to lose food assistance, housing assistance, medical assistance programs
yes
>and have their entire base turn on them?
Their base is clinically retarded and will swallow any propaganda put before them.

>>519561372 (OP)
>>His polling is legitimately lower than bidens
>>his entire cabinet is filled with isreali first miggers
>>entire command under fauxnues faggot are ready for blood

Jewish semen swallowing miggers arent even aware of what they are starting.

>>519561372 (OP)
Democrats never actually plan shit out. They run 100% on feelings and moods.

who the fuck knows what the troonsquad is thinking about a damn thing.

>>519561627
>Trump's word

HAHAHHAHAHA...

>>519561372 (OP)
Yes. They are relying on MSM lying to the american people about who is responsible for this. They WILL get their tranny USAID flowing again or ELSE!

>>519561372 (OP)
They have nothing to put forward. They are just waiting for someone else to tell them what to do. Maybe the people who issue their orders have gone on strike or been shutdown too.

>>519561372 (OP)
their problems will become yours. Democrats I don't think have anything actually on the line when a government shuts down. You don't see anything until you do and then you will demand it end.

>>519565258
What fucking translation app did you run your taco speak through because I have no idea what the hell you're saying

>>519566410
>>At the start of the shutdown, Trump’s net approval rating in the Silver Bulletin average was -9.3. It actually ticked up slightly at first, reaching a high of -7.5 on October 17th. But as of today, Trump’s net approval rating is down to -9.5; essentially right where it was pre-shutdown. That drop came after a string of new polls from Quinnipiac University, Echelon Insights, Reuters/Ipsos, Emerson College, The Economist/YouGov, and American Research Group were released over the past couple of days.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin

>>519566033
I just think niggers starving to death and dying of AIDs is hilarious

>>519562062
delulu dummy

>>519566822
Lets trust the polls. I stand by my original statement. Republicans can cut food stamps and gain voters while democrats will only lose by allowing us to do it.

why do american's think its the democrats fault. The republicans control all branches of government

:)

>>519566822
>a bunch of leftists orgs say orange man bad
K

>>519566822
>all left leaning polling outlets
And yet the poll doesn't refute the fact that people are blaming the dems for the shutdown. It insists that Trump is losing favorability. These are two separate issues.

>>519565310
It's kinda funny how true media literacy works in Current Year + 2025. I was trying to research whether it was true that Democrats were trying to give free medical care to illegals. I came across an article from a "mainstream" source that was trying to debunk it. The article started by explaining that the claim was "missing context". As soon as I read those two words, "missing context", I knew with certainty that it was 100% true.

>>519565514
I'm not going to argue with you. I think trump, as retarded a reality tv host as he is, is the ONLY president in my lifetime that made a campaign promise and kept it. He said he hated TPP and he got rid of it. That was that. He also tried to get the stimulus checks out the dems blocked and PRETENDED to get rid of a few spics, though he really needs to do more to even come close to even putting a dent in the damage just biden did letting in the hordes.

>>519567345
It's true. Whenever Operation Glowingbird spouts these lies, you investigate for five minutes and you find out the dems admit it's true but basically it's unfair that it was said.

>>519565310
>we need to make a decision on how to divide this pile of cash
>I propose all money goes to me
>wtf why are you disagreeing

>>519567327
>>519567128
>>519566992
Proven wrong again, miggers. The truth hurts but doesnt make it less truthful. Your vain pride and egos is why you never and will never see whats around the bend... but keep playing the jewish semen swallower. It wont save you, your children, or anyone you love.

>>519567345
True on context

Russian/ukranian jew tennis player gets injured in the US open

You

a) give aid like an homosexual democrat

b) deny healthcare like a republican and give coke to local player

>>519567089
Because you need 60 votes to approve a spending bill. Republicans have a majority in the Senate, but not a supermajority (60+) where you can basically do whatever the fuck you want.
This requires a few dems to cross the aisle and sign on to it. So far, there are 55 yay votes, 5 short of the required 60. The rest of the votes must come from dems, and they wont do it because they insist, among other bullshit (and I'm not saying the Republicans dont have their fair share of nonsense in it as well), free Healthcare for non-citizens and public funds going to prop up left wing media outlets.
No. You're not getting either of those, or anything else as a matter of fact. We can stay shut down as far as I care. Literally nothing changes about daily life for the average American during one of these.

government shutdowns are based. thank you demoncraps.

>>519567519
> Trump losing favorability =/= people think it's Republicans fault for the government shutdown
As long me how I know you suck Meidas Touch cock and gobble up lefty talking points like a fat cunt at the Golden Corral

>>519561372 (OP)
Theyre banking on having good enough propaganda that people will blame republicans and they can get concessions out of republicans. Its really scummy.

>>519561372 (OP)
Yes, they know their base is retarded and will blame Trump and republicans for everything.

>>519567519
Let's revisit this conversation after all the niggers are locked up for the holidays for stealing groceries and losing their freedom because Chuck Schumer wants Juan's old lady to have a tax payer funded abortion.

>>519567393
Republicans can't do the mean things because the Jewish media will not allow a right wing uprising. Only leftists are allowed to chimp out.

Yeah, average democrat voters are mouth breathing retards who see a government shutdown and blame it on the president if it's a Republican, or on Congress if the president is a Democrat, without doing any investigation at all.
I've already talked to two typical Democrat retards who called it "Trump's shutdown" while Democrat politicians are actively taking credit for it. You can believe anything you want when you have the disabled brain of a retarded nigger.

>>519561627
>guarantee
...wut?
i can guarantee you that if they don't reopen the government he's not going to meet with them.
100%.
what the fuck guarantee is needed?
why would that even matter?
the executive branch does not control the purse.
they should be meeting with the majority leaders, not trump.

>>519566507
>Their base is clinically retarded and will swallow any propaganda put before them.
Yep. All the democrats i know irl blame Republicans for not presenting a CR that democrats would vote for and the Republicans made the democrats vote against the CR and shut down the government and its all the fault of Republicans. Really insane people. One even admitted that yes the democrats voted against funding the government and that caused the government to shutdown and then he said its Republicans fault that democrats did that. Crazy

>>519567836
ICE is literally breaking into citizen's homes now in the far north, while ignoring the southern border. Everything is calculated by glowniggers. They're trying to make republicans look bad so democrats can be resurrected as a fake "opposition" party (that just happens to believe all the same shit). Problem is, everyone is so sick of the dems it's fucking up the glownigger ops.

>>519564761
>>519565310
Republicans could end the shutdown today if they wanted to, they would just have to use the nuclear option to change the rules.

>>519566033
Letting welfare niggers die to own the conservatives. Love it! This is up there with not breeding to save the ozone layer lmfao

>>519568041
Nah, dont end the filibuster. I'm not afraid of "but they'll do it to us" because they've already done that. It acts as a necessary speed bump to show the the citizen who actively pays attention just what kind of kindergarten temper tantrums these supposed "leaders" are capable of throwing.

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the fuck are they doing?
I don't know but I hope they keep it up, they're doing a great job collapsing their party

>>519566515
Does miggers mean MAGA niggers?

>>519568443
Nah most people do not pay attention to any of this. Democrats will still have a permanent 65+ million people who will vote for them no matter what happens.

The democrat party is that histrionic narcissist bitch who would rather burn their fucking house down than admit they made a mistake.

>>519568794
We're systematically removing their illegal voting base and gerrymandering hard as fuck. This is not to mention all the radicals in their party who have been pushing out moderates for a while now. I think they're screwed and will need to reform

>>519568794
No they are actually bleeding support. They don't know how to deal with it, all they're doing is doubling down over and over again because they cannot ever admit they were wrong about anything. This is all ego with them.

>>519569013
>We're systematically removing their illegal voting base
Lmao
>gerrymandering hard as fuck
Come back to me when the Supreme Court has ruled

>>519564761
Wrong, end the filibuster

>If you give Trump everything he wants, he said he would meet with you to talk about the idea of maybe giving you at least some of what you want, but only after you have given away all your bargaining chips
>Why would you ever not take this sweetheart deal?
Republicans are a special kind of retarded for this one

>>519567089
Honestly, unless you're one of the ones whose jobs are being affected, no one is really thinking about this shut down very much. If it happened in summer and we weren't allowed to go to parks, then maybe? But really, this seems like a politician on tv and social media versus other politician on tv and social media fight, desu.

>>519569130
>he thinks the Supreme Court won’t rubber stamp anything the Federalist Society wants

lol. Lmao even

>>519569130
>Lmao
Are you disputing that illegals are being removed or that they vote? Either way, retarded.

>>519569130
They are losing 19 seats, that's a guarantee. The only variable is they could lose up to 54. So you go right ahead, act smug and cope. You'll be seething soon enough.
If you paid more attention you'd know this but you just talk shit online for fun, you're not actually invested.

>>519561372 (OP)
Their strategy is simple. They currently got you by the balls and are asking you to negotiate about healthcare- namely, the ACA supplement that 22 million people depend on for affordable healthcare. “Let go of my balls and maybe- probably not— I’ll negotiate”.

>>519561372 (OP)
you are fucking stupid. trump did this the last time he was in office. over the wall funding and he folded.
all democrats have to do is wait trump will fold.

>>519561372 (OP)
democrats are women now
and they're giving chad the silent treatment to see if he comes around and apologizes
meanwhile chad is fucking some other broads while her temper tantrum runs out of energy

>>519561372 (OP)
Calling it now, he's going to arrest them in the ballroom when it's done. The only room which is confirmed to not be compromised.

>>519569408
>trump will fold
But he has the cards

>>519569408
What? TACO fold? I seriously doubt it (wink wink)

>>519569495
That probably sounded so much cooler in your head, huh.

>>519568030
I mean ICE did hire thousands of people in under 6 months, no way these guys are properly trained. They're hungry to deport illegals though, and that's why we pay them 100k/year. You're right about the opposition, republicans have taken a losing stance on gaza by enabling satanyahu and no support is bleeding towards the dems, it's just causing trump's base to fracture. America's turning into a 3 or 4 party system where smaller groups might start making inroads politically. The duopoly of rep/dem is fading.

>>519561372 (OP)
Build momentum for the midterms. Unfortunately with no more mail in voting their permently fucked.

>>519569408
democrats will capitulate and taco trump will chicken out (it keeps happening). trump's popular is absolutely tanking over the government shutdown. nobody is buying the democrats are to blame narrative

>>519569515
yeah, you cant fold without them.
he will soon fold and healthcare wont be cut

>>519569709
Any day now

>>519561627
TACO!

>>519561372 (OP)
>>What is their strategy: to wait until airports close during the holidays, force people to lose food assistance, housing assistance, medical assistance programs and have their entire base turn on them?
No, they’re going to wait for all of that to happen, and then claim orange man bad did it. It used to work, but it probably won’t now, because much like for the Jews, the jig is up.

>>519569764
just like last time over the wall funding where trump fold and didn't get shit after a month or so

>>519569515
What cards? Do whatever the fuck he wants?

Cute at home but doesn’t go so well in public. America is getting tired of this man-child and his tantrums.

>>519567519
>your picrel

Things like that is why everyone in America has turned against you and all of your ideologies.
You all are the kind of people who think posting a photograph of a man being killed is an ebic pwn, when it just actually exposes you for being grotesque and ghoulish.
Its like picrel, but more gross.
Leftists have become like stepping in a big pile of dog shit, not knowing it, and accidentally grinding it into your carpet, before realizing it.

>>519569696
> nobody is buying the democrats are to blame narrative

Everyone is because Americans don’t actually give a fuck about health insurance for illegals who shouldn’t be here on our dime in the first place.

the last shut down under trump lasted 35 days.
and then trump folded like a little bitch with no wall funding

>>519569683
Never attribute to incompetence what glowniggers are trying to cover up that's actually due to malice. They'll never touch the spic overrun areas, because they vote red.

>>519569495
He’s fucking Russian, South American, and North Korean broads. Not the sort of thing you’d share with your friends or family. Definitely not the flex you think it is.

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the actual fuck are Democrats doing?
What does it look like? They're refusing to fund a corrupt incompetent dictatorship.

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the actual fuck are Democrats doing? What is their strategy: to wait until airports close during the holidays, force people to lose food assistance, housing assistance, medical assistance programs and have their entire base turn on them?
Exactly this. They don't build anything, they are termites who rule by fear.

>>519561372 (OP)
Yes. They want accelerationism. Probably the only thing based they've done in years.

>>519569495
You’re excited he’s fucking over half the family? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>519562062
>they all still must work together and fuck the people in the ass, on behalf of Israel

>>519569215
>Are you disputing that illegals are being removed
This. They vote.
>>519569292
>They are losing 19 seats, that's a guarantee. The only variable is they could lose up to 54.
You miggers are hopeless.

we still have 13 days to go to beat trump's last shut down of the government
trump always does this shit then he cries about workers and families cause he couldn't get his way like a fucking jew

>>519570182
You brainless leftoids still haven't realized how much you've lost. That's okay, it's funny watching you blindly stumble around pretending to be brave when you're shitting your pants.

>>519567345
>Current Year + 2025
Nigga what year are you in?

>>519570077
The Republicans could capitulate if they were really concerned about feeding families, airports, and shit.

You’re not the good guys you think yourselves to be. The democrats are holding out for healthcare assistance (the promise of an ACA extension on affordable healthcare) for 22 million Americans. What’s your excuse?

>>519570358
you have about 3 years left until your life is over
inb4 cope pasta about that there wont be anymore elections

most of the MIGAs who made trump their whole lives have about 3 year left to live and its funny to watch their copes.
time is fucking flying by and it almost been a year already.
tick tock

>>519569508
Based if true.
o7

>>519570518
>The democrats are holding out for healthcare assistance (the promise of an ACA extension on affordable healthcare) for 22 million Americans.
That's just the veneer of care, if they look optically like they are supporting the healthcare then they get emotional retards like you to get all bothered about it.

>>519570876
Trump keeps threaten medicare and medicaid. there are 170 million people on those. half the country.
more than half all of babies born in the US are born under medicare.

>>519562174
It's so fucking over for them. I wonder if they even know how over it is.

I can't wait for the SNAP nogs to go ballistic. Tell us again how this hurts the Republicans?

>>519570992
>Trump keeps threaten medicare and medicaid.
Bro every time I try to give you idiots the benefit of the doubt like maybe I'm the dum dum, you go ahead and say shit like this like your only source of news is Colbert on late night just doin a heckin orange man bad routine

>>519571055
well since republicans also use those programs
it hurts them as well

>>519570992
>Trump keeps threaten medicare and medicaid. there are 170 million people on those. half the country.
>more than half all of babies born in the US are born under medicare.
Work on your English if you don't want to come off as a subhuman (Mexican.) You're very clearly ESL.

>>519561372 (OP)
It's going to be blamed on Republicans

>>519562174
>i wish i was making it up
you are
>n-n-n-no my propaganda says so!
your retard propaganda has been asked to point it out several times, including on live tv. johnson literally said trust me and couldnt prove it. the bill is out there for everyone to read. we get it, you want your 7k deposit to shill for your pedo party but man

>>519567589
>We can stay shut down as far as I care. Literally nothing changes about daily life for the average American during one of these.
This. Meanwhile half the Democrat's base is about to lose their foodstamps and ebt and whatever other bullshit they get for free.

>>519571237
unlike you i dont dwell on typoes
since this place is just 100% bullshit nonsense anyway

>>519561372 (OP)
Democrats are still fighting like it's the 2010s. They haven't adapted at all because Trump mindbroke them. Absolutely no one gives a fuck about the shutdown. They spent decades alienating the average white man from benefitting from anything government related and they're banking on any of us giving a shit about it being shut down.

>>519570518
Its called " tough love ", sweetie. Sometimes tough decisions have to be made in order to secure the greater good.
This is something grown-ups must regularly do. Maybe one day, you'll be able to understand.

>>519571285
and half the of republican base as well

>>519571285
except (r)etards are the ones that are mainly on foodstamps. how retarded are you guys? genuinely
>>519571417
>Absolutely no one gives a fuck about the shutdown
every single poor person does, you're just in your own little echo chamber on twitter thinking no one cares because you arnt on any social assistance

>>519571417
white men make up like 20% of the country now
and its dropping every year

>>519561372 (OP)
anything to own the republicans and orange man

>>519561372 (OP)
they are doing everything they can to prevent the loss of our tax money going back into their own pockets through made up social movements and family owned NGOs. they stand to lose A LOT of power that would be a fight to get back. every thing they invented, including the EPA, was to hijack tax money.
>no kings
no kings, unless it's in congress

>>519570832
>MIGAs who made trump their whole lives

L M A O @ you implying its the Trump voters, who have made Trump their whole lives. LOLOL

>>519571561
there was no shutdown under Biden
its mainly about trump and them, the ruling class, teaching him a lesson that he cant always have what he wants
the last time this happened trump was treated like a " good boy "dog when he folded and reopened the government without anything

>>519571482
Half includes SS, and medicare, which is retarded because those aren't impacted by the shutdown.
>>519571499
22% of Democrats are on SNAP vs 10% of Republicans, and that jumps to 31% (d) vs 17% (r) when you include all members of a household. So you might be right, just not the way you thought you were.

>>519571739
well they have about 3 year left until their lives are over
2029 its coming quick.

>>519571556
and yet they still build and maintain all of the nation's complex systems, and without them shit falls apart. curious.

>>519561372 (OP)
Everything with leftists boils down to animalistic game theory.

The calculus is this: we run the clock and cause chaos. Doesn't matter if it's "our fault" or "the republicans' fault", because the media apparatuses will pump the appropriate message to the appropriate sides. We get to claim republicans weren't reasonable because they control the house. We get brownie points on "Trump's Shutdown" with our base and we fuck shit up for the administration so that we can point and say "look how badly Trump fucked it up" We have the power of millions of dumb nigger cattle at our disposal.

The republican strategy I suspect is something like, "DOGE didn't really work. We seriously need to trim fat off of the government bureaucracy and purge these leftist Obama-era snakes out of federal positions. Let the democrats shit on the living room carpet, our base will love being able to point and say 'can you believe how goshdarn naughty the left is?'. Meanwhile, when the niggers chimp out over their EBT cards not getting charged in November, we have National Guard units and ICE positioned in major cities ready to squash shit. We'll look like fucking heroes."

Both sides are like two boxers fighting on a stack of Jenga blocks with several critical pieces already missing. The curtain is about to fall on the American empire, we will see dramatic cascade effects in the next few years. And it will get very authoritarian. Invest in Palantir if you want to live.

>>519571785
>all the marketing you're trained to believe by the news
the actual truth is here >>519571672

>>519571499
>A pajeet infesting Canada telling Americans what Americans care about

>>519561372 (OP)
Trump holds all the cards.
I think Democrats are acting really stupid.

>>519571821
places like WV are very poor, white, and on government gibs

>>519571935
trump will fold them, just like last time
about 12 more days
trumps last shutdown was 35 days

Weird how the world seems to keep spinning despite no US federal government

>>519562174
They literally just want the same medical system we have been using for the past 15 years to stay the same. The expiration date has come and they are asking for the status quo to stay because American households cannot afford a rate hike right now. Under this status quo illegals are not eligible for any benefits. Republicans will tell you that we spent millions of dollars on illegals because of this programs but 100% of that spending comes from them coming into an emergency room unable to pay. Ronald Reagan, the GOP's favorite person that has ever existed, put it into law that an ER cannot turn you away for inability to pay. If the money doesn't come from the patient it comes from the federal government so some money has been spent on illegals, but not because of Romneycare. It's worth noting also that it is millions of dollars in the face of trillions of dollars that have passed through that system.

>>519571945
>here are the statistics disproving your claim
>yeah but this one area is how I described?
Aphasia.

>>519561372 (OP)
>people want to get back to work
Speak for yourself faggot. Keep it shut down and give me money when you reopen. I’m still bitter that your brought me back to the office to sit in my cuck cube while my colleagues are across the country.

>>519571285
Meanwhile, services just behind the tip-of-the-spear military elements are going to erode. There are some systems you can't replace by training a bunch of new hires in a 1-2 year timespan. The people who tap out after 2 missed paychecks are going to place all of their dead weight on the remaining workers, which will cause a second wave of tap-outs who will simply leave federal service for good.

Even if the overlords manage to turn this back on by early November, it will have already caused enough of a system shock that we will see many critical systems fail. Which ironically is the only hope for the white race. So whatever.

>>519563056
Art of the deal.

>>519572248
Is this your first shutdown? Logically what you said tracks, but it just isn't the case. People working for the gorvernment are doing so because of either the healthcare, pension, or because they've been too lazy to find something better for at least a decade. They're losers and aren't going anywhere. Nothing ever happens because of shutdowns lol

>>519572051
its almost like taking care of its people, making sure that they aren't sick, is what the government should be spend its money on.
there are very few people who disagree with that other than the jews who want more money for wars and the middle east.

>>519572393
The people who actually do the important work are driven like dogs, and this shutdown is their out. You will see smart and capable people who have been at this for years switch gears and never look back.

There have only been a handful of shutdowns since Reagan, and they are getting worse over time. Eventually the beating heart of the truly critical systems we have in place that still manage to do important things is going to collapse.

Chuck Schumer here. Patriots Donald said if He can fuck me and Drugstore Obama in the ass he will meet with us. Seems ok with me. What do you thanks. Chuckie

Republicans refuse to open the government over a health care cost that is a fraction of what Trump gave to Israel and people think people are going to be angry at the Dems.

>>519572649
Just another Wednesday night for Chuck and Barry

>>519572690
Also the bullshit with Argentina.
Spend, spend, spend, just not on the American people.
2026-28 is going to be crazy and very hard times for most people.

>>519572552
Must of the people still working maintain the buildings and are supervisors told to work on very specific things that are part of the presidents agenda. It is very narrow in scope and the supervisors don’t real know the topics like their employees that are furloughed. Of course there are super essential people like ATC, and arguably TSA. But other nonessential jobs are important for the US to remain relevant in the world stage and for safety.

>>519572927
Hard times = RAHOWA, so let it rain

>>519569956
understand this fundamental - when the government stops working everybody is immediately going to blame the establishment that IS the government. that means recuckblicans and trump in case you haven't realized

>>519561372 (OP)
Since their color revolution fell flat on its face, they are now going to force food riots and allow their pet nigger-apes to destroy the country again.

Whether they're doing it strictly to make people fearful and angry or to give themselves cover for something more sinister and violent, I do not know.

>>519572987
I am an excepted individual, and let me tell you it is not looking great from my angle

>>519561547
>>519561790

>>519573233
>says he won't cut medicaid
>cuts medicaid in the BBB

>>519573168
if you think its just going to be the browns rioting when the EBT goes down you are stupid as they come.
I would be more worried about the poor white trash meth and pill heads then the nigger who burn down there other neighborhoods.
also the homeless white vets who are getting EBT.

>>519573233
>here are the times trump completely fucking lied and gave more to israel
warp speed cancer

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the actual fuck are Democrats doing?

Podesta ran Pacific state secession wargames in 2019 openly. Pelosi & Schumer try to special plead with COG of all things, publicly. The only play is full blown sedition because they're caught red handed in the 2020 steal AND Covid Nuremberg Code Violations. Weather Underground bullshit.

>>519573397
We've known this was coming since the late 2000s, let's just rip the bandaid off and get it over with

>>519573233
thankfully anyone who isn't a migaer knew trump was lying explicitly to say the exact opposite of what he was going to do. many such cases

>>519561372 (OP)
Why even have a meeting that's supposed to negotiate ending the shut down, when trump's condition is to end it before said meeting? Fucking nonsense - democrats may be impotent, useless faggots, but trump is equally obnoxious & disingenuous

>>519572051
This was the Obama administration's sneaky trick.
This chaos and turmoil that America is suffering today, is the direct result of what Obama did, 15 years ago.
And he did it fully knowing what he was doing.
He tainted our future. On purpose. And he thought it was funny.
This is the long reaching trouble that being corrupt, brings on innocent people.
Obama is trash. The Democratic Party is trash.

>>519573397
Of course there will be white rioters too, but they will be arrested and punished by the Democrats. It's the niggers and spics that will be allowed to destroy everything.

>>519572397
I don't want the government to take care of me.
I don't want the government to concern itself with my day to day life.
Wtf.

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the actual fuck are Democrats doing?

Do the Democrats currently control all three branches of government or is that the Republicans? This is 100% on the Republicans and everyone knows it, simple as.

>>519573988
Yeah, how terrible that Congress made the Obamacare subsidies expire knowing that in 15 years Republicans would end them because those millions would be better spent on Israel. Such an evil trick, playing on Republican's obsessive need to make life worse for Americans because suffering is the only way Holden Bloodfeast can get off anymore.

>>519573521
I’d except that if Trump wasn’t razing the Whitehouse to build a luxury casino for the oligarchs funding the endeavor or bragging about shitting on half the American population to emphasize his “let ‘em eat cake” moment. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>519561372 (OP)
>What the actual fuck are Democrats doing? What is their strategy:
Extend the ACA tax credits and they'll vote on the CR. It's not even a huge ask, they're just campaigning on people keeping their health insurance. They aren't even fighting on anything else, easiest concession the GOP could make. Everyone wins.

>>519574099
That's exactly what Trump is doing, he's taking care of Israel first and Argentina second.

>>519574238
AI memeflag bot post, ew

>>519574226
The Republicans always claimed they had a replacement. Obviously, that was a lie. They don’t. Until they do, why not fund the ACA until they actually do something. It’s kind of a moot point as to whether you suck on healthcare at this point. Might as well be the guys that kept healthcare affordable for some for at least another year.

>>519573397
>on meth
>concerned about food

Does not compute.

>>519574441
Suck it, tard.

>>519574630
Don't talk to me with that stupid memeflag, robojeet

>>519574134
>Need 60 votes to pass
>Democrats refuse to vote for it
>This is Republicans fault
Fuck you're retarded

>>519573829
Its called bantz, nigger. Get güd.

>>519574720
I guess all they need to do is negotiate the concession, what a dumb fucking cunt

>>519562174
Kys lying faggot

>>519574134

>>519571849
>"We get to claim republicans weren't reasonable because they control the house"

Just like I said. This is how easily programmed the retards are. We are ruled by retards. Actual idiocracy.

>>519574099
its not about you and its optional if you want to use the service or not. just like how your property taxes goes to fund the local school system where you live. but you live here so pay up for the common good of the country. otherwise you can go fuck off to SEA, Isreal, or where ever.

>>519574226
You obviously lack a tactical or political mind, and the ability to plan for the long term future.
Corrupt as they may be, successful political players like Obama, do not share in having these deficiencies in their thinking.

>>519574720
So they can negotiate (they are refusing to do this) or they can go nuclear and just pass a budget without the Democrats. Either way the shutdown is on them.

I thought the entire point of the shutdown was to not confirm that one Democrat who would tip the scale in favor of a vote on releasing something pertaining to the Epstein files. Pedo elites need to be protected

>>519574905
Republicans had it their way the entire year but I guess you retards forgot that people voted for democrats and they get a say how they budget is passed, it's on them to concede ground.

How come democrats could always convince a few republicans but you can't?

>>519574099
Yeah. You got mommy and daddy to protect their little baby.

A little secret. You don’t have to enroll in government assistance if you don’t want to. Maybe you have enough to live free of assistance. Yay you. Not everyone is as blessed. Does it make you feel better others get denied basic healthcare benefits without a little assistance from our government? You’d prefer they suffer? Not your problem. Until it is.

>>519562062
>You don't understand our system because you are used to having Kings and Queens ruling you
You have jews ruling you and you think you had a say in putting them there. All you ever managed to decide was the color of your chains.

>>519575124
>"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"

Thanks, Obama. Were you even alive when they peddled those lies or are you new to planet earth?

>>519574936
Or participate in voting and vote NO on the levies and raising your taxes.
Most Americans do not want the government to " take care of them ", as you put it.
Most people want the government to not concern itself with them and their day yo day lives.
Most Americans do not wish to think of the government as their mommies and daddies, like you do.

>>519574971
Whether it's a cunning long-term plan is irrelevant, I'm just pointing out that "evil plot" relied on their opponents being shitters willing to cut government aid for their citizens for no other reason than being assholes.

>>519561372 (OP)
They're having a collective temper tantrum. Fuck 'em.

>>519561372 (OP)
>Look the controlled opposition did it

>>519575000
You’ve confused the confirmation of the New Democrat senator that recently won a special election. She would be the deciding vote to move forward in the Epstein debate.

>>519575000
Here we go

>Further, Ms. Grijalva has pledged to add her name — providing the last necessary signature — to a bipartisan petition to force a vote on a measure demanding that the Trump administration release files on the investigation of the deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Mr. Johnson has denied that his refusal to seat Ms. Grijalva is tied to any desire on the part of the White House and Republican congressional leaders to avoid the vote on the Epstein files.

>>519575338
>I can't understand the context so I'll just assign motivation
This is your brain on maga

>>519573059
Understand this fundamental - Americans hate the federal government and want it destroyed. Americans don’t want it re-opened and will be thankful to Trump for this.
Illegals, niggers, and kikes (all non-Americans) may be upset, but they don’t matter.

>>519575211
Still have my doctor. Let me guess, you recently turned 18 and discovered your family doctor retired almost a decade ago.

>>519575380
Johnson wants to protect pedo Trump and his pedo cronies

>>519575124
Illegals do not deserve any American benefits at all. Not ever. If you're not mad at Obama and the Democratic Party, and how he and they fucked over our current times, then you are mad at the wrong people.
If only he didn't govern ineptly, using sneaky, underhanded tactics, we would not be in this mess, having this conversation, today.

>>519575318
most people do, ask any boomer if they would give up their government healthcare.
you'll fell the same way when you are older and need routine check ups and blood work.

>>519575641
>Dude, illegals don't deserve healthcare. That's why we have to price out every US citizen earning under 60k a year from affordable healthcare!

>>519575501
historically we were not supposed to even have a federal government with any federal forces.

The founders were shitting fits over building six sailboats in the 1790s. They didn't want to commission any naval officers to help safeguard the oceanic trade routes. Eventually they allowed a few federal boats, but wanted them decomissioned and abolished as soon as the pirates were dismantled.

>>519575514
You live in the European Union you fucking retard. You never even dealt with the Obamacare nightmare.

Take off the flag and prove me wrong, you won't.

>>519561627
the same guarantee that a random bullet wont fly through your window and kill you within the next 3 minutes

>>519561627
>(you)

>>519575763
the founders sound more retarded as I age. was america always fucked from the start?

>>519575211
This was one of several sneaky, underhanded tactics Obama used to force the AMA aka Obamacare on people who didn't want it.
If it was such a great program, he and the Democratic Party should've been able to win over Americans to wanting it, using facts and procedure.
But they didn't, because it was not a good program that anyone wanted.
Since people didn't want it, Obama and his Party used sneaky, underhanded tricks to force it in.
And here we are, today. Cleaning up his mess. And people today will suffer for it.

>>519575641
foreigners should not be able to buy land either. but here we are.
Americans should have the option of government covered healthcare and other services though

>>519575501
Americans don't hate the feds lol. People voted for Trump again because he has a lot of shallow, populace policies like Trumpbucks. Trust me, Americans are not as smart as you are suggesting.

>>519566507
>Their base is clinically retarded and will swallow any propaganda put before them.
Like Qtards and other right wing mouth breathers?

>>519576061
they're all mouthbreathers cause they're all cut from the same branch

>>519561372 (OP)
Are they even meeting to vote on reopening the government anymore? It seems like no one even cares.

>>519575726
Couldn't be me. I don't rely on that nonsense. Nobody " needs " such things as routine blood work or pharmaceutical drugs, etc.
It ain't natural, bruv.
Plus anyone relying on big medical after covid-19 is a masochistic retard.

>>519567345
Dems want asylum seekers to be able to get Medicaid and are justifying by say they documented by the asylum seeing status.

>>519575495
I can understand how logic might confuse you. Failing the 8th grade three times in a row must've been difficult for you.

>>519561668
TPBP

>>519576061
>>519576193
A skilled Tavistock trauma artist could have both swapped in their beliefs within a month.

>>519575501
Let me explain briefly why you’re a fucking idiot. Americans choose to have a government. It’s why we participate in elections. We want and expect people who know shit to make decisions in our best interest. Impossible you say. You’re not wrong. You can’t satisfy 100% of the people all of the time. But what you can do is try to keep a majority happy. They don’t even have to be people who elected for you. Better yet if you can mix it up keeping a majority happy but not necessarily the same voters who make up that majority over and over at the expense of those who disagree. That is what is currently happening right now. Our leadership has decided 50% of this country can fuck themselves while catering to the other half. This is a losing strategy. You’ve alienated 50% of the voters and you’ve already established you can’t keep the other 50% happy.

So here’s what’s happening. The not so happy people are starting to ask what the fuck. Some of these people are well known member of the Right. At some point Trump has busted their tolerance for bullshit so even they are starting to speak up. So no, we don’t hate our government or our country. We just think the current leadership is full of shit and needs to start doing their job for all of America, not just the sponsors, ass kissers, and cult members.

>>519575990
>Americans should have government covered healthcare.

Why? Honestly, I don't get why you think this way?

>>519576028
What are Trumpbucks?

>>519576331
>nobody needs medicine or diagnostic care
you are a fucking idiot full of shit
trump would be dead by now if it wasn't for the meds he takes as would many people

>>519561372 (OP)
The bulk of people on food and housing assistance are retarded niggers with a double digit IQ. Even though it's the Democrats clearly causing the shutdown, they will blame Republicans and their retarded nigger cattle will believe them.
There is no genuine attempt at thought when orange man bad

they know this is the end, this is just them trying to do a last hail mary to try and get people to freak out (if food stamps run out the poor will throw a fit) if it got that bad though trump could just shift money and give people food stamps himself and fuck them over harder though

>>519572552
You're wrong. I am a government employee on furlough. First, there is a federal Law that says I get paid after the furlough ends (back pay for the time I was sent home). Second, My shop is involved in a "tip of the spear" thing in the motherfucking Department of War. Guess what, all the missions my team does are still being done by contractors. The money to pay the contractors was allocated and bracketed at the beginning of the contract. I spoke with one of my friends today who works in a different shop in the same command - he was at work today, doing the mission, as a contractor. This is essentially a free vacation for me. The contractors on my team are professional and competent and can handle the work. The only down side is they are having to do my job.

We won't see any critical system fail.

>>519576526
that's what the government is for. to take care of its people. the same way we have a military. that doesn't mean you have to use those services if you don't want it too. but if you want to live here pay up or leave

>>519567089
Because you’re a fucking retard and just because the republicans “control all three branches” doesn’t mean you still don’t need enough democrats to approve.

You fucking numbskull smug retard.

>>519576573
Go suck you Saint Fauci doll's dick, then if that's what you like, anon.

>>519576526
>People go without health insurance thinking "Eh, I'm young and healthy, it'll be fine"
>It is not fine, they get a bill for double their net worth
>Cannot pay
>Hospital has to eat the loss
>This happens frequently
>Hospitals up the price of services to make enough profit on paying customers to survive the non paying type, also making the non paying type fall further into insane medical debt
>Insurance companies up the premiums so that the new hospital pricing doesn't erode their CEO's ability to buy his mistress a house
>Average Joe is now paying as much for his insurance bill as he is for a car payment
>That's before any hospital visit
This has been getting worse and worse and worse. Either the goverment steps in and offers a healthcare option or they regulate so strictly that it is effectively state run healthcare. Failin this healthcare becomes a privilege of the upperclass and even if you aren't opposed to the thought because you have libertarian ancap brainrot, you need to keep your work mules healthy or shit starts to fall apart.

>>519576573
Maybe that was just subby’s attempt at being humorous.

>>519568030
Dems? No, everyone is getting sick of the jews.

>>519568781
Yes.

>>519563056
The Republicans have been trying to pass a clean bill with no changes on what the Democrats already agreed to. But you're a fucking moron and you don't know anything about politics. I just gaped your asshole how does it feel?

>>519576782
>we should just let everyone die
50% of adults are on high blood pressure meds

>the republicans can literally end the shutdown today if they modify the fillibuster
How is it the dems fault again?

well, the 'no kinds protest' was their actual hail mary, they spent 300M of their ngo money for a bunch of retarded CNN watching boomers to stand around then all leave at 1PM on the dot, and are trying to claim 7M people attended which even the most seen in the biggest cities was in the hundreds, even the one people incorrectly thought was 2017 was less than a thousand people

>>519576999
because they want parts of the big beautiful bill essentially revoked in exchange, giving them funding for their BS again

>>519577159
and that one literally had buses / paid staff bring people to it, that soros money is not working

>>519577224
But that doesn't matter at all since republicans can just ignore the dems if they modify the filibuster, so how is it their fault?

>>519577159
all this bullshit is coming to an end 2029. which is right around the corner
all these people that have made trump biden and obama their lives will have to go find something else to do
maybe we can get back to Ron Paul threads in 2029

>>519577330
Trump could fix this tomorrow with an executive order but he chooses not to

>>519577330
because trumps approval went up a percent while the dems is falling, and it gives trump time to fight the legal battles to dismantle their unelected government apparatuses while the rest of the government cant do shit, they are fucking themselves over

>>519576969
Fr though, most medical treatment is superfluous and unnecessary.
Patients are gaslit into thinking they need treatment and visits that they do not, and at the same time, are given mediocre service and their actual medical complaints are ignored and go neglected.

>>519561372 (OP)
Lmao, blaming the democrats with control of both houses, the executive and judiciary.

What faggots.

basically this, its the perfect opportunity to remove all the actual long standing tyrannical unelected aspects in the government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-RIsAz3pys

>>519577419
but that just means the reps are keeping the government deliberately shut down, not that the dems are holding it hostage lol

>>519577419
TRUMPS DISAPPROVAL HAS INCREASED.

>>519571264
Dems literally want 1.5 trillion to pay medical bills for illegals, that's it, prove otherwise or shut the fuck up.

>>519567692
I think they're craven enough they only care about their own paydays now, knowing their time is numbered. They have no plans beyond that. It's Jewish thinking, and of course the Democratic Party has always been kikes.

>>519575990
Foreign kikes with dual citizenship shouldn't be allowed in our government, but here we are.

>>519577599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaaiWpISKjU

>>519561745
>there are 60 republicans in the senate
Why do foreigners even pretend to know what's going on?

>>519561372 (OP)
The real redpill is to recognize that the GOP does not share the Democratic strategy on shutdowns. In 2021, they opted not to shut down the government and won swimmingly in 2022. Keep in mind that I’m talking first half term shutdowns. That means I’m only talking 2021, 2017, 2013, and 2009. There are less data points on this than you’d think.

The uniparty is doing this to pretend it's LE OTHER PARTY'S fault there's not been a working budget for like 20 years now. Like imagine your family is totally broke and Mom and Dad just blame each other over how they've DEBTMAXXED so hard that nobody will lend anymore and we got no money? It's like that.

>>519577658
The red pill almost no anons take is that republics are kiked from day one. The Carthaginians absolutely adored republics and installed them wherever they could. Easily bribed, easily coerced, easily infiltrated.

>>519577474
its not. most boomers are being kept alive because of the routine blood work they do and the meds they take. just like the major our government officials.
just because your not fat doesn't mean you cant have diabetes or high blood pressure. but being fat like trump makes everything worse.

>>519577781
cept this time he is literally in the process of dismantling said uniparty hence the freak out and repeated attempts to kill him

>>519565310
Democrats are stuffing in over a dozen other requirements into the bill that people never talk about either like billions for electric vehicle hov

>>519576969
I’m sure you have a source you can share.

>>519568041
>the Senate can end it by destroying the power of individual senators.
Yeah ok dumbass

>>519577630
I would but the house appropriations committee website has turned into a north Korean style propaganda arm. How could you retards be proud of this?

>>519577159
You’re claiming protestors were paid. Any evidence leading to this conclusion. Likewise, we can assume that the Jan 6 protestors were also paid for their appearance?

>>519577957
https://www.cdc.gov/high-blood-pressure/data-research/facts-stats/index.html

>>519577902
How does electric cars in the hov lane cost anything? Road signs?

>>519578094
You're a kike, and Total Kike Death means you

>>519577957
>Nearly half of adults have high blood pressure (48.1%, 119.9 million). This is defined as a systolic blood pressure greater than 130 mm Hg or a diastolic blood pressure greater than 80 mm Hg or are taking medication for high blood pressure.

>>519578094
that does not mean everyone who attended received a check, it means people were paid to organize / astroturf it and handle logistics which there is proof of

>>519561372 (OP)
They are controlled opposition.

>>519578158
How? Why? Questions always have one answer. Kikes

>>519563056
>Boss tells picketing workers no meeting over strike until they go back to work

>>519578164
>sends the most money to Israel
>receives the most money from aipac
You're the kike, oy vey

>>519578217
all these NGOs are the real enemies / proxies of the real enemies btw

>>519578164
That's not an argument you white nigger.

>>519578258
No, it's a queer reversal of secessio plebis, where the feuding patricians stop paying their servants, trying to front one another into economic collapse.

>>519562174
>>519577630
obamacare doesn't cover non-citizens

Illegals get their healthcare by dine-and-dashing through urgent care/emergency clinics not refusing to treat them, and then not having anywhere for the bill collectors to chase them down later. This will persist under any system that doesn't demand you pay cash up front before the doctor will even look at you.

>>51957829
> oy vey you're the kike!
Thieving Jewish claws typed this post

>>519578083
In the midst of a federal government shutdown, the U.S. government’s gross national debt surpassed $38 trillion Wednesday, a record number that highlights the accelerating accumulation of debt on America’s balance sheet.

It's also the fastest accumulation of a trillion dollars in debt outside of the COVID-19 pandemic — the U.S. hit $37 trillion in gross national debt in August this year.

(Illegal aliens are not entitled to healthcare assistance but the do pay social security and federal taxes)

>>519561627
The defeated are in no position to bargain, only accept terms of surrender and hope for the best

>>519578334
"Argument" just means "to make clear." Nothing can be clearer than the necessity of Total Kike Death now, nor is it possible to imagine any clearer sky once that is accomplished.

>>519567530
Don't expect them to be able to think this far...

>>519572051
Right, and it’s time for that system to end. The people have spoken

>>519561372 (OP)
uniparty bread and circuses goyim cattle bipartisan israel aid jews win

>>519561547
Are you talking about OP?

>>519577854
Okay what ever you say there, Pollyanna.
Keep sucking on the teats of the institutions who hate you and see you as nothing more than a sick little pay piggy.

>>519578432
To be fair, American citizens do exactly the same thing when they can’t afford healthcare. Even with an address, they simply refuse to pay.

Medical is far too expensive to “pay to play”. Most of us can play if we can at least negotiate a reasonable payment schedule.

>>519578694
are you not entertained?

>>519572690
Democrats lost all credibility. Turns out you can't go 100% retard with trying to sabotage your political opponents for years and expect anyone to believe you're doing anything but that from then on.

>>519578694
Careful Hans they can send you to the arbeitslager for speaking the truth!

>>519561372 (OP)
Calling your bluff, retard.

Fuck it - you morons don't think government does anything anyways. And nobody is believing your 'free healthcare for illegals' lies, so there's literally nothing to lose.

>>519561372 (OP)
Obama 2 million military people
Trump 1.3 million and starts cutting military people.
You people are are fucking idiots, you're being bailouts by the government for farmers.
50 billion to Argentina
Warp speed
Hyperinflation
Ooo but food is adorable Trump says.
Well ok
You shouldn't be starving

>>519574099
The government is the economy and infrastructure and law. I want the government in my life on MY side because it's not going to go away.

>>519570369
Depressing to imagine that this place will be around and discussing the exact same shit 2000 years from now. Future must be a real shitfest for them to think this is a good chronoholiday destination.

>>519578806
> retarded subhuman kike puts fully loaded revolver in his mouth
> "These goyim don't understand I'm invincible"
> Pulls the trigger

this is another big one they are freaking out of

>>519578527
Ooh! That burns! Because its true.

>>519561372 (OP)
Their plan is to drag on the shutdown as long as they can, blaming it on bad orange man and company, then pretend that they "did all they can" when they eventually fail and either vote to pass it or some clause is triggered.

>>519578716
are you made because people need healthcare? and that some people, a lot, cant afford to pay for it themselves.
someday soon you or someone you love will need it too if you don't blow your brains out first.

>>519567345
>>519572051
So just remove the ability for illegal immigrants to receive care from the ER. It doesn't matter who or why things are bad, let's make it better now.
They will still have to treat you if you're here legally regardless of cost.

>>519577630
> Dems literally want 1.5 trillion to pay medical bills for illegals
> prove otherwise

Troll farm bait can't even do a google search.

Three words: Social Security Administration.

Truth:
>>519572051
>>519571264

>>519578997
>>519578620
that is what he is doing / they are throwing a fit about

>>519578963
>>519578919
Trump has no incentive to reopen the govt tho, those two bullet points are irrelevant

>>519578963
the two of the longest government shut down were and are under trump. the last on last 35 days and trump folded without wall funding. making it pointless.

IMO obama care needs to be fully removed even if it causes pain at first, but at minimum he has to remove the special rules that allow illegals to use it which dems are fighting >>519578620

>>519577854
What age boomers are you thinking about? I’m 62. Probably in better health than you. Only statins for marginally higher cholesterol which is covered by insurance I pay into. Most people my age don’t rely on medication for our survival. It’s obvious you don’t really get out much. In before you claim you work in a hospital. Yeah, old people in hospitals take medication. Young people in hospitals take meds too. It’s a fucking hospital. Sick people take meds. Most people aren’t in the hospital. Most people require minimal meds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X6onwQp0ko
also also, this is a attempt to try and get some of the black vote back by trying to run food stamps dry, blacks are waking up though as they are the ones being replaced

>>519579133
Illegals cannot legally get government assistance. They cannot get healthcare assistance. You drank the koolaide, now you sound like a moron

>>519578919
Stay strong, Trump. Don't give in to these wild faggots and their whims.

>>519579321
except they literally do, there are exceptions in the law
>>519578620

>>519579156
Total Kike Death means you, kike

>>519579321
https://x.com/i/status/1975920488565334328

>>519578997
>Have to go through a whole paperwork process before receiving any care in the Emergency Room
Sounds like a great idea.

>>519579156
you are full of bullshit

>Nearly 90% of adults aged 65 and older report taking prescription medication. A CDC report from 2024, based on 2021–2022 data, put the figure at 88.6%.

>Most take multiple daily medications. Over half (54%) of adults aged 65 and older report taking four or more prescription drugs. The average older adult takes four medications daily, and more than 15% take eight or mor

>>519578964
The problem is the way you think, itself.
>People need healthcare
>Need

Most, not all, not all, but most people who think they " need " it, only need it because they think they do. They have been gaslit.
You'll never believe me, because your mind is fully captured by the establishment. That much is apparent.

>>519578918
I suppose that metaphor would make sense...

...If one was retarded.

>>519569407
>The average unsubsidized cost for an Affordable Care Act (ACA) health insurance plan for a family of four is approximately
$1,100 to $1,500 per month

You think this is affordable? you fucking moron

>>519579581
>healthcare for citizens isn't affordable
>but billions for argentina is affordable
>...not to mention israel

Do you get paid by the post?

>>519579565
> Kike with a gun in his mouth:
> "You're the retarded one, goy!"

>>519579543

Over half (54%) of adults aged 65 and older report taking four or more prescription drugs. The average older adult takes four medications daily, and more than 15% take eight or more

>Over half (54%) of adults aged 65 and older report taking four or more prescription drugs. The average older adult takes four medications daily, and more than 15% take eight or more

Over half (54%) of adults aged 65 and older report taking four or more prescription drugs. The average older adult takes four medications daily, and more than 15% take eight or mor

>>519579561
People need healthcare. Need. They don't "need" to go to the doctor every 3 months just to shoot the shit and get a useless perscription to reduce the amount of wax in their ears, you're right about that. The fact remains that crazy one off shit happens every single day. People break bones, people get severe infections, people get cancer. The only way to be covered when random one off shit happens is to be covered every day because just rolling the dice leads to >>519576821

>>519579851
>Captured

Your ability to form thoughts that are unapproved of by the presiding establishment order, has been hijacked, subverted and captured.
Sorry, but its very apparent.

>>519579133
“Beliefs that undocumented immigrants receive free, comprehensive healthcare are primarily based on misunderstandings of U.S. laws and are amplified by political rhetoric. The reality is that federal law prohibits undocumented immigrants from enrolling in major federal health programs like Medicaid or Medicare, except for limited emergency services.”

Why do people believe undocumented immigrants are eligible for free healthcare?

>>519580520
no one is falling for your BS >>519579449

>>519572051
You are a liar. Its to retain covid subsidies that democrats, not republicans, put the sunset on for 2025. Even CNN called them on their bullshit. Demosharts are fucked.

Captcha; ASSPM2

>>519580520
There are no smart MAGA.

Only gullible fools.

It's why academia skews so liberal: It's not intentional - MAGAtards *cannot make the cut*.

>>519575763
And it was an absolutely retarded fucking outlook. The founders were not fucking deities and had plenty of ideas that didn't age well. You can't just commission navies when you feel like you need them, especially modern ones.

>>519579449
Disabled people lose medicaid if they have "too much money" to receive SSI (this amount is less than $1,000 a month), yet illegals are receiving it no strings attached.

TRUMP IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS!!!
W-we mean what healthcare for illegals? dont be ridiculous!

>>519579449
Colorado's "Cover All Coloradans" program: This state program uses state funds to provide health coverage to pregnant people and children, regardless of immigration status.

These are not federal funds.