Thread 519628128

Why do Millenials and Gen Z refuse to grow up?

>>519628128 (OP)
>Wallstreet journal
You have to go back

We can't get these robots to work out for us, we want slave labor and $7/hour minimum wage back again. A median house only costs 38 million US dollars now.
Millennials: We should ask the super intelligence for a virus that kills all these fucking old assholes with a super virus, so that the world can be better for everyone.

>>519628223
Wallstreet judas is a well respected pillar of jewrnalism goy

there is micoplastic in my semen and my brain. what did the boomers expect to happen?

>>519628128 (OP)
I have never gotten anything longer than a 9 month contract and every place I entered was downsizing or reducing business expenses to give inflation salary compensations. Once on my second day, I saw my boss cry to her boss's boss that she needed better job stability, that the Deloitte consultants' cuts were ruining her livelihood.

And somehow its my fault I graduated into the worst job market? My first internship was straight into covid lockdowns where everyone left the office and I got max 2 hours of facetime over zoom during meetings and then faced blockers from teammates; and my first paid job literally started on the day of russias invasion of ukraine February 24th 2022.

STOP FUCKING UP THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC ORDER ALL THE TIME YOU BOOMER FUCKS!!!!

because they see the society that we built for them

>>519628128 (OP)
what happens when lies catch up to you op?

>>519628128 (OP)
Because I got in too much student debt and became a drug addict. If I can't afford financial milestones, I have to make my own fun instead.
We've been over this.

>>519628128 (OP)
>cant buy house because economies fucked
>cant have kids because most women are feminists on birthcontrol
>cant get married because of divorce rape
I want society to collapse so that migs and women suffer
>

>>519628128 (OP)
>no women capable of being wives
>no jobs (if you're white)
>houses are laughably unaffordable
>average salary doesn't even cover rent anymore
Really makes you think.

>BRO JUST WAGESLAVE FOREVER AND PAY 3000$ RENT FOR A SHITBOX APARTMENT IN THE CRIME PART OF TOWN AND LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY IN YOUR 30'S TO A WOMAN WHO'S HIT THE WALL AND READY TO SETTLE DOWN ONLY TO DIVORCE RAPE YOU 2 YEARS LATE
grim

>>519628128 (OP)
why do boomers refuse to retire and die out?

>>519628128 (OP)
You have nobody to pay into your retarded pension systems and provide you with grand children.
Enjoy the pillow, boomer.
You spent your life earning it.

>>519628128 (OP)
because MONEY you dumb faggot

>>519630919
Kek, this.

>>519628128 (OP)
"Growing up" or "being a man" means being exploited by at least one hole, and the entire Jewish diaspora. Means working a job for shlomo where he pays you 10 percent the value of what you produce, then you're taxed 50 percent, and it goes to Jewish settlers in Israel who get paid 100k PLUS full benefits to just fuck and have kids, and sheboons who basically do the same thing with out the 100k. "Growing up and being a man" means being a host for multiple parasites.

>>519628128 (OP)
>grow up
Can't afford a home. Can't afford children. Can't afford happiness. There is no point to our lives, and if there is no point to our lives than there is no reason to let you live yours.

>>519628128 (OP)
90% of the threads on /pol/ are made by the same criminal organization

>>519629101
I genuinely feel bad for you and your generation. I was only 10 years ahead of you, and I don't know what I could possibly do to survive or succeed if I was where you are now. My generation had to deal with the fallout from 2008, and we thought that was bad, but you poor bastards have gotten even more fucked than we did.

then it should be easy for you to organize, and execute a plan for the world. everyone is easily manipulated, mindless children, yeah?

if only we could see what hollow shell of a person posts dumb generational bait such as this.

>>519628128 (OP)
They ignore that those "economic milestones" that millennials missed were assets that boomers, foreigners and corporations horded to speculate on

>>519628128 (OP)
Rapid technological changes - i can't adapt, most people can't.

>>519628128 (OP)
I am not owed anything and I owe nothing in return.

The job market is a nightmare and mass immigration only made it harder to find work for a living wage. Lots of jobs were outsourced and offshored, meanwhile brown mass immigration comes to undercut the legal minimum wage.

Jews did this, intentionally, to wreck white nations. The immediate term is higher profit margins and the longterm is brown, easily manipulated golem

>>519632172
Nearly all of the economic problems plaguing the zoomers are a direct result of antitrust laws not being enforced and everything being further and further consolidated by a handful of megacorps.

Homes are too expensive because companies buy up real estate to trade between each other like poker chips to fake GDP into existence through speculation. The job market is being continuously driven down because monopolized industries have less competition and thus fewer jobs in total, and also can afford to provide worse services which means they can settle for lower paid workers forced to do the work of 3 employees each. Costs of living get driven up because the companies you depend on for utilities know you can't actually go anywhere else for those services anymore so why would they need to cut you a deal to keep your business? Etc etc.

Humans cannot survive when their lives are reduced to an exercise in finding the limits of wealth extraction for the benefit of the 1%, because by definition that means pushing people to their limit, and we can't fucking do that forever OR start a family under those conditions.

>>519629101
>>519631635
Yeah yeah, moving out and first job during the 08 (this was me too) recession or lockdowns is shit, but can you imagine the developmental damage done to the kids who were supposed to be highschool/college/early20s in the lockdowns? That shit's just fucked, i know legacy media loves to dump on em, and i do too sometimes, but how fucked is it that their prime formative years they werent out there getting in shenanigans with the lads, or picking up drunk chicks at parties and bars. It's fucked up, and you can't even blame them for being fucked up because of it because they didn't even get to grow up normal.

>>519629101
>STOP FUCKING UP THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC ORDER ALL THE TIME YOU BOOMER FUCKS!!!!
LOL, first time?
t. Graduated university in 2012

>>519628128 (OP)
my generation was nothing but an afterthought, endlessly fucked with from all conceivable angles. eat shit you fucking niggers, see you in hell. have fun fucking tossing paper bills into the lake of fucking fire where you all belong

>>519628128 (OP)
Maybe they can't anymore. In children's development, there are many milestones that a child must go through or he'll never go through them. Most of these are in early stages of childhood, but maybe some remain still in teenage years. E.g., if you're a kissless hugless virgin still in your twenties, you'll be so for the rest of your life.

>>519628128 (OP)
>Can I have a job?
No
>Can I buy a house?
No
>Can I afford a car?
No
>Can I find a woman
No
>Can I have kids
No

WHY WON'T YOU GROW UP?

Grow up = Become a tax golem for boomer pensions

>>519628128 (OP)
Burn the whole fucking thing down and may every boomer on earth writhe in agony in hell. You will never make me work. Fuck you

>>519628128 (OP)
Gaslighting and covering up the policy of making women independent in order to prevent family formation as scheme for depopulation of white countries.

>>519628128 (OP)
can't afford it

>>519628672
I ejaculate the equivalent of a credit card of plastic per goon session.

I just keep making children.
Fuck the jews.
1488

>>519628128 (OP)
Why should I?

Define grow up. I have a 6 figure job, house, car, pay my own bills and some of my parents but because I play video games, read comics and watch anime in my free time I still get called a man child.

>>519628128 (OP)
>YOU HAVE TO [insert jewish humiliation ritual here] BY AGE 30 OR YOU'RE A MANCHILD
Lol. Good luck with your whole gay ass "society" shit.

>>519628128 (OP)
You would too if the world around you was SHIT

>>519628128 (OP)
>Boomers ruin everything and then wonder why younger people are struggling
Hmmm really makes you think.

>>519628128 (OP)
>why did people end up differently under completely different circumstances?

>>519628128 (OP)
So I can work for the rest of my life living off scraps no matter what I do?
No fucking thank you.

we realized that "growing up" just means being a boring npc wageslave

>boomers destroy the entire social structure set up over thousands of years
>?wtf why isn't my son married yet?"

>>519628128 (OP)
What is there to grow up to?

>>519628128 (OP)
>Refuse to grow up
That's where you're wrong, we grew up beyond the previous generations and left you all in our wake. Growing up means what to them? Moving from attending school everyday to attending a job everyday, buying toys and trinkets aimed at a mature audience instead of hotwheels? We've grown past this gay society and we're going to collapse it and change it. Don't throw your toys out the pram whilst we do it, you big overgrown babies.

>>519634848
>I play video games, read comics and watch anime in my free time
Imagine how much unpaid work you could have done for me in all the time you WASTE on those activities. Be a good pack mule and fix your priorities, anon.

>>519628128 (OP)
Because we're Toys R Us kids

>>519628128 (OP)
Peter Pan syndrome

>>519635397
Moshi moshi.
You have a daughter, not a son.

Immigration will fix the lack of leadership.

>>519637154
AI content-generating nanomachines, son!

>>519628128 (OP)
>bypass
they're unattainable, housing pricing alone DOUBLED under Biden. Go on zillow or another home buying app and look at the increases in price, it's unsustainable. I hope Trump triggers a collapse in the housing market.

>>519634360
Boomers can't maxx their credit the way we can

>>519628128 (OP)
lmfao I will never marry some hag, I am not stupid. Your daughter will never move out boomers.

Never

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>>519628128 (OP)
Why not ever list the important milestones when you spam this every day? Because you will look stupid, thats why you can't explain yourself.
I know tons of people who hit milestones and checked boxes and they're still genetically dumber than me no matter what.

>>519628128 (OP)
i just fucked up, got mental yayness, and never really pursued any goals so they are quite right, Time has stopped for me in 2009ish and i still do the same things i did back then. Ill probably never have a family, a car, a house, a stable job, meaningful relationships besides that with my mom and one friend and thats okay. You will own nothing and you will be happy or some other shit

Rent is 20-30k a year, for a studio-1bed room. (2 bed if a shitty apartment) avg post tax income is 57k a year and median is 47k.

It really comes down to wages are not sufficient, basic needs cost too much.

>>519628128 (OP)
Why do jews refuse to pay me a wage that will allow me to buy a house?

>>519628128 (OP)
>what happens
Single mommy dies and they become homeless when the bank forecloses on the mortgage or the rent ceases to be paid and they're forcibly thrown out of the basement they've been cringelording in.

>>519628128 (OP)
Because we're so squeezed between boomers and IA butt-plugged pro LGBTQ Gen Z / A.

I don't mind working hard if given the opportunity to do what I like. But there is very little motivation to accept shitty jobs and work yourself to the bone to pay the rent for either of those generations.

Even then the world has no idea and disregards how much I want my simple and stable life.

>>519637415
Grrl Gamer speedrunner (male) notably absent

>>519629101
Guarantee you don’t live in a big city, live near Berlin and you will see all the jobs there.

>>519628128 (OP)
why do kikes and niggers exist?

>>519637591
It's not that the value of homes, goods, etc has increased, but the value of the dollar has plummeted in the last 2-3 decades.

>>519628128 (OP)
gen x here, my mom wouldnt buy me a 30 pack today, she said i have to wait till tomorrow

>>519632726
>Humans cannot survive when their lives are reduced to an exercise in finding the limits of wealth extraction for the benefit of the 1%, because by definition that means pushing people to their limit, and we can't fucking do that forever OR start a family under those conditions.
Oy vey, you goys don't understand about the roughly 2,400 hundred slaves per hooknose and that the world is all supposed to work perfectly like that.

can millennials and zoomers at least agree that NEETing is the only reasonable thing left to do?

>>519643630
NEETing is you giving up. When you give up, the people that took away your future win.

>>519628128 (OP)
You know there was a war going on for the past 25 years right

>>519643630
What's that ricey moon rune mean after lol?

>>519643780
It means lol.
The actual meaning is grass, but through a series of events it became jap slang for lol. If I remember right it comes from laughing (笑う, warau) shortened to w, and when spammed as wwwwww, like lolololol, a bunch of w:s kinda look like grass which led to 草生える (kusa haeru, grass is growing), and then it was finally shortened to just 草.

>>519628128 (OP)
The sun continues to rise and the merchant plies his greed from another

>>519644661
Thank you Binland :DDD

>>519628128 (OP)
no personal ownership -> no personal responsibility

>>519644661
so thats what the grass messages meant in elden ring

>>519628128 (OP)

GROW UP GOY !!!

WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM!!! WHY CANT YOU FIX CARS LIKE WE COULD???
>CANT AFFORD CAR

WHY CANT YOU GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS YOU FUCKING LOSER
>WATCHED MOTHER DIVORCE RAPE DAD

WHY DONT YOU GET A JOB
>GREAT POINT!!! LET ME CHECK: AI AND JEETS TOOK ALL THE JOBS GIVEN TO THE MY IDDY BIDDY SKIRT DEI HIRES

just checkout
FUCKIT
Just
Check
Out

Leave it let it rot. It's time rome is falling is what it is

>>519645335
Btw fun fact
60% of all wealth is owned in the west by people aged 60-70

They couldn't care any less about what happens after they die. Really really really not. Zero fucks.

>>519645456
So if your < 30...imagine what is for you

>>519643725
But that's the whole point they already did that.

Just let it rot let it all fall...

At least the. It can be a cautionary tale for whatever scraps are left (if anything at all survives) to rebuild

>>519628128 (OP)
>What Happens When a Whole Generation Never Grows Up?
Ask the Boomers. They still wear shorts and vacation in Vegas at 75.

I'm 32 and live with my parents.
I have $78,000 in savings.
Got laid off from my shitty factory job that gave me sinus issues I'm pretty sure.
My IRA account is worth 50k.
I made a lot of stupid decisions but living with mommy and daddy is one of the best decisions I made.
I'm lucky. But I'm still fucked.
I can't buy a house. I don't need a big house. 600 sq ft is fine.
But they all come with a fucking 458 dollar a month HoA fee.
Ban trailer.park land rent bullshit.
Build mobile homes.
Stop building mcmansions.
No pussy no work? Well I have a gf as a NEET but I'm still not getting s job. Not cause of pussy. So really it's
No House No Work.
NhNW.

>>519628128 (OP)

Idk I'm a millennial I have a proper job, car, own an apartment.

No wife or kids though because the women here are all feminists and likely to divorce me, steal my home and ruin my life.
The WQ is the number one issue of our time. Almost ALL modern issues stem from women's lib and women being fucking awful when given freedom

>>519628128 (OP)

Also my apartment is on "unceded land" so apparently the government can just steal it and give it to some native tribe because they camped here once 200 years ago.
Why the fuck did I spend all those years working overtime to pay down my mortgage?
Maybe NEETs were right all along...

>>519628128 (OP)
"growing up" is practically illegal
the traditional milestones of adulthood are fascist in appearance
a man who owns his house and has a career is a man not subject to the welfare system, and everyone MUST be on the welfare system, else the social engineering doesn't work
economic policy is driven by psychology and political science, not economics

>>519632726
Truth

>>519633841
This is a fair and balanced response.

>>519633092
Yeah. Moved put at 25 with my first real job, leaning to date ar 26 in a leftist shithole here in DC.
Still technically a virgin, had dated for a year in college but was terrified of knocking that moron up

>>519633689
*in your thirties

Plenty of people make it out in their 20s

>>519628128 (OP)
>what seemed like a lag
for fucks sakes fuckin shit god damn what a bunch of fuckwhits LMAO

>>519639946
>I don't mind working hard if given the opportunity to do what I like
This is an attitude that would have been ridiculed by millions of men who lived before you were born and millions alive today.

>>519638517
Lived through around 6 once in a lifetime economic crashes.
But sure, go on ahead and blame the next generation for inheriting the shittiest economy. First time in history the younger generations have worse prospects than their parents without being at war.

Fuck you jew for trying to make this generational hate psyop

>>519642068
i was in Munich, faggot

>>519628128 (OP)
can't get a stable job

>>519628128 (OP)
What do you mean by this anon? Have a bunch of children so they can be owned slaves for money ? Or do you mean get massive debt with a mortgage and car so your locked in as a slave for the next 20 years making the rich scum even richer ?

Please do explain what you mean by grow up?

Not getting teen pussy in high school really fucks you up. Basically, we’re compensating and maybe hope for a miracle.

>>519628128 (OP)
It's not 2005, Millennials have grown up. The homeownership rate for millennials passed 50% during covid, meaning that the majority of millennials own the home they live in. Same is true for getting married and having kids, most millennials have done both by now.
This assumption that Millennials are refusing to grow up or hit the normal milestones of adulthood simply isn't true, it's based on very outdated statistics from years ago, when most millennials hadn't done adult things because most of them had barely reached adulthood by that point.

>>519648632
Miks sä edes haluisit työskennellä hevostallissa? Taidat ola sellanen ns ruskean reiän ritari eli hinttari eli homoseksuaali

grow up to what?
>a loveless marriage to a woman who has had 60 boyfriends before you met and will divorce you for no reason, with one autistic child that gets groomed into being a troon
>a job where you could get fired for not being enthusiastic enough in the dei training session or saying something a female colleague finds slightly offensive, that barely funds the bare essentials
>rent that eats up 75% of your takehome pay, or, if you're lucky, a house that you will never be able to finish paying the mortgage on, that will slowly get surrounded by niggers and pakis for neighbours

>>519629101
Cope you should of gotten a PhD and joined the military. Your retarded grandpa didn't do any of that shit and just married and got a high salary job out of highschool but ignore that goy pull yourself up by boots or some shit

>>519628128 (OP)
Because Jewish laws on harassment apply.
Besides, people don't want their children to be raped and beaten with kebabs, as happens in England. It's easier not to have children, so that in old age they can watch the Jewish government collapse without slaves.

>>519650318
I deserve all the digits

>>519628128 (OP)
I am 27 with a family and a business and work a second job, in order to leave behind something in the future we have to live with my parents. Boomer rats will never understand they had it on historical ubereasy

>>519650404
Work harder useless eater

>>519628128 (OP)
oh no im studying the economy right now im "doing an adult"
im finding out more that adulthood never existed
we live in a financial acid trip

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>>519630159
This thread is spam. a rhetorical argument (Millenials and Gex Z refuse to grow up) and its also reposted frequently

>>519628128 (OP)
Seethe Nordgay, we are Gods to you peasant conformist normie scum.

>>519628128 (OP)
I really think that in another 5 or 10 yrs the Zoomer kids are going to be ok, most of em. But I dunno that there is anything that can be done bout the poor Millenials, they live in a very inverted reality from all that came before. They are in some sense "inverted boomers" for lack of a more, better term. Inverted, not as in upside down but inverted as in a fun-house mirror way. Millenials are the end product of what boomers did to your society in the 1960s.

>>519628128 (OP)
anon i...
> make well over 6 figures
> bought a house, mortgage at a decent interest rate back in 2018
> live with mother, i take care of her, pay for everything because it's an honorable thing to do
> no other women in life because they will leave anyways
> go to gym 6 days a week, run at least 2 miles per day and lift weights
> have hobbies and other interests i engage with on the weekend
> can take my mother out to restaurants and enjoy the finer things in life
> networth over a million
> almost 2 decades of experience into my career
> can literally just f5 my accounts for the next decade watching my investments go up in value
> read bible and pray everyday, faith growing, thank god routinely for everything he's given me, good and bad
im fulfilling my duty, marriage is very far down the list of things i want knowing how fucked things are, same with kids, but im not stressing because i will have a very good retirement
look im not here to shit on you guys, and if you are down on your luck i feel bad for you and pray for you, but just know that god is fair and you shouldnt give up. you only have this life, good or bad, give it some efforts, better die on your feet than on your knees

>>519630658
I’m paying 1,600 and that’s the minimum in Los Angeles. You pay either to be next to Mexicans, blacks, or Asians. Pick your poison.

>>519631197
To much of bitch to off myself. My love for my family and my cats is to deep.

>>519628128 (OP)
>dont give the kids the chance to grow and have available good paying careers
>WHY WONT THESE KIDS GROW UP

>>519630658
You sound like a retard, brown invader

>traditional milestones
Off the top of my head those are
>student debt
>have a job
>get a partner
>mortgage
>credit debt
>overseas holidays
>credit debt for overseas holidays
>marriage
>divorce
>child support
I have only one of those, I am employed. Does that mean I'm a child? If it's optional I'm not fucking doing it lmao

>>519652618
>never married but pay child support

29 neet virgin cant get a job
probs gonna kms bros

>>519643253
>Its not because everything has gotten expensive.
>Its because our dollar is worthless
>So everything is more expensive.
JFC anon, 6 to some half dozen to another, it does not matter end of the day shit is fucked.

>>519652618
No. Who aspires to divorce? You're rambling, brown.

>>519652618
Adulthood is a series of material possessions

>>519652952
Can't I be cheeky, cunt? It's not as unusual as it once was

>>519652700
I know a couple of people going through that. Funny that one is a woman

>>519628128 (OP)
Gen X and Boomers spent decades telling everyone work was soul crushing and sucked. Now they're surprised their kids don't wanna end up dying in the cogs. Look at all the Gen X and Boomer dramas from the 80s-90s

>>519628128 (OP)
It's financially impossible for the average young man working an average job to buy a home and afford to have kids. On top of that, the average woman is raised to be a cheating whore.

The problem is jews.

>>519651426
>better die on your feet than on your knees
based

>>519651426
Tell me how to get there, I just want the money, I just want 100k a year, please God how

>>519628128 (OP)
Cuz dah dbags

>>519652886
Dont. The fun is going to start soon and we literally need you.

You are actually normal now. The state you are in is no longer out of the ordinary.

>>519654043
i went to a for-profit college, while everyone bitch about how they felt scammed, i busted my ass every day doing projects, and didnt whine or complain
i worked on some very high-profile video games before the industry went woke and turned into shit, i am now enjoying a very challenging job at a tech company
you never stop learning things and doing side projects. not asking you to L2Code or anything, but you should always have something to show with your free time
if you like photography, learn to take better photos, there are plenty of resources online, learn about lighting, composition, etc
if you like cooking, practice, learn different recipes
if you like to work with your hands, make stuff, doesnt have to be an exoskeleton suit, but even simple things like finding things to fix will help you understand how things are put together, who knows, maybe you can start fixing things for your friends and later charge people money for it

you just have to practice, always practice, sharpen your own sword
when you are sharpened, people depend on you to cut through the bullshit, money is just the side effect of that because people will pay you big bucks to solve their problems, and everyone has problems, every organization has problems, every culture has problems
you cant
> wish for the process to be quick
> wish for someone to come save you
> wish for things to fall into place without your push
just accept that you're not lucky enough for any of those things to happen. you still have decades and decades of your life left, that's a lot of time to hone your skills
most importantly, you need to understand what it means to be "saved"
it's not that God will magically reach out to you and make you wealthy, the definition of "saved" is knowing the direction that leads to life and growth. read the bible and pray. do not be afraid to tell god your problems. do have faith, do not live a nihilistic life. the world is fucked, you don't have to go along with it

>>519655278
Okay, I also did that. I chose retardedly. I cannot go back to school. Its literally not an option available to me, im maxed out.

Suicide?

>>519648522
Then you must be a fool, how did you not just grab a contract and while you have a job keep applying? Tell every employer you’re only looking for fulltime roles. Or were you a good boy and waited till your contract was up before looking for a new job? That would explain your lack of fulltime employment.

>>519628128 (OP)
Ask the boomers, they act like toddlers

>>519656007
Military/NG for that GI Bill

>>519656089.

True.

>>519656136
>just be an evil ZOGbot
>t. jew

lol

>>519628128 (OP)
>why wont millennials and gen z work harder to pay for us so we can continue our 20+ year retirements
>t. boomer
Bye snap. Bye EBT. Bye social security. Bye medicade. Fuck off and finally die you lardass vampires.

>>519656007
if i have kids i wouldnt tell my kids to go to college, there are plenty of resources online to conduct self study
you need to forgive yourself for the mistakes in the past, you cant undo them, but what you can do is wake up tomorrow and know that it'll be a new day for you because i told you what it means to be saved and how God has laid out the path of growth and life for you.
try and understand the problems around you, throw yourself in, try and learn how things work, eventually you will learn how to fix things. you will fail, you will fall down, but i fucking believe in you even though we are total strangers, because i know grace will reach you.

>70% divorce rate
>40 year mortage
>low salaries due to immigration
How the fuck are you supposed to grow up in this society?

>>519628348
"We should ask the super intelligence for a virus that kills all these fucking old assholes with a super virus, so that the world can be better for everyone."

We had covid. I have no idea why the young took the vaccine - it was to help the seniors...

Proudly refused the vaccine, and told my family I didn't care if me alone not taking it meant millions of elderly deaths.

>>519628128 (OP)
>Why do Millenials and Gen Z refuse to grow up?
The women I would have married and had kids with, moved away for University, and again to chase careers. Now with dating apps, good fucken luck. Can't even match with Gorlock The Destroyer, and since women have dating apps, they don't bother going out to the bars to meet people anymore.

>>519628128 (OP)

It was never presented as an option