Thread 519719989

Is the "incel culture" just men's fault?

>>519719989 (OP)
all this in his post but unironically. no pussy no fucking work.

>>519719989 (OP)
Women take more resources from the state than they will ever earn in their life times, yet only demand more and don't even make babies. There's no point to the welfare state if it doesn't even make women make babies.

>>519719989 (OP)
>Women refuse to fulfill their primary duty and biological rule and instead all dogpile on top of the top 1% Chad harems while LARPing as bossgurl kveens in a mini @ adult jew daycare
>Somehow this is men's fault

O i am laffin

NPNW

>>519719989 (OP)
the "incel culture" is BS, if you live in a city with internet available for the people and you can put $5 aside each week, you should be able to pay a hooker several times a year and therefore stop being an incel

so, in order to be an incer you'd need to either be poor as fuck or live in a really far away land where there are no whores or in amish country

>>519720367
>women receive everything from tax theft
>thus no need to put effort into socializing
somehow this is a NEET male's fault

>>519719989 (OP)
Low T post

>>519719989 (OP)
All of this is what a fuck boy thinks mentally, but is permitted to receive his desires

>>519719989 (OP)

> Is the "incel culture" just men's fault?

Largely. Traditional society did gave loser men a better chance to land a loser woman.

In modern society, loser men don't want loser women (ugly women) and don't know how to approach them anyway. Normal women prefer to be alone before dating a loser, for obvious reasons.

>>519721030
>you should be able to pay a hooker several times a year and therefore stop being an incel
you're still an incel
and if you could approach a hooker you could approach a girl

>>519719989 (OP)
Partly but its a multifaceted problem. Not all on men, but certainly denied responsibility from women.

>>519719989 (OP)
creepy incels need psych treatment

>>519719989 (OP)
no, women are bad people

No cunny

No money

>>519719989 (OP)
Yes.

>>519721728
another

>>519721505
nope, as a hooker consumer i can tell you that there is a difference
sex with hookers is transactional, you call them or send them a message, they come, you pay them they fuck you and they leave, if you're doing anything else you're doing it wrong

women, ladies, girls and other femmes will need you to be confident, funny and have good social skills, the need you to contact them often, listen to their problems, solve a few of them out of the kindness of your heart, dress nice, shower often, have good taste and try your best co woo them and maybe, just maybe they'll let you fuck them, and once you do you're in for even more demanding stuff than before if you want to keep on fucking them

>>519719989 (OP)
Incels dont exist

>>519719989 (OP)
All women's behavior is some man's fault, but it's not all the same man's fault, and men are not a monolith.

A woman who acts like a bitch to Man A may be acting that way because of Man B. Man A and Man B may have no relation and are not inherently with one another.

>>519721030
"Incels" rarely just want/need sex. It's always wanting a relationship where sex is a component of it. Hookers don't solve this problem.

Actually it's very much a woman's solution to try to solve this societal problem by offering a crumb of sex, but that won't be enough to make men buy into civilization.

>>519719989 (OP)
It's naturally going to cause resentment when certain guys get everything while other guys are deprived of everything and treated as the lowest of the low. Imagine how pathetic and violent things would get if the tables were turned and the guys who get sex and women handed to them had to live like incels. They would all have massive meltdowns.
Anyway /pol/ is just upset because more incels means less "real men" to enact tradcuck fantasies into real life. And women are upset because they think they are all owed Chad and they are upset he is only like 3 percent of the male population.

>>519722563
then the term "incel" in wrong, if they aren't involuntarilly celibate then they're just social outcasts and that's what they should be called and treated like

>>519722760
They aren't "social outcasts" most of the time. A majority of women aren't connecting with a majority of men, and that majority of men is upset about it. People want to call ALL of those men incels, but really only a small portion of them truly are. The larger phenomena is as I stated already.

>>519721931
no pussy no worky.
simple ass

>>519719989 (OP)
Yes

>>519719989 (OP)
Mostly it’s women’s fault for abusing their privileges, but I would argue 15% of this is men’s fault too

>>519719989 (OP)

>problems exists
>any problem
>blame men


This is the default setting. You should know this by now.

>>519719989 (OP)
>inceldom
This movement is a psyop. Something's off about the movement as a whole. If you start talking about age of consent being too high, you'll get banned from any incel forum/community immediatly. If you point out how state-enforced feminism with its biased divorce & family courts are to blame for men's suffering, you'll also get banned for being a "terrorist".
>don't talk about the jew state, goy

The only thing permitted in that movement is impotently hating on women. Self-improvement or building skills is frowned upon heavily. The goal of this fake movement is to make you sit there, embrace neetdom, hate women that don't care or know you exist, and just wither away. Incels are also too preoccupied with having a woman love them so the movement is dripping with simp energy.

It's very obvious inceldom is a glowie psy-op. They don't want you to direct your anger anywhere other than women and they really don't want you to do something about your anger in the form of organizing with like-minded men and resisting.

>>519723193
What's wrong with age of consent law?
The problem is that fathers can't control their daughters, not that old men can't control child brides.

(you)

>>519723193
>>519723393
Hint: if you're a man and you're overly motivated by sex, you're part of the problem.

>>519723393
>>519723463
Pic related.

>>519723463
True but the internet has pushed the lie that guys are some united force that are going to harm women and minorities and people actually BELIEVE that. I'd argue that's an even bigger problem.

>>519723577
So, instead of taking our anger out on the state for fucking up society, we place all of that on CP holders (among a few other categories)? In other words, the state gets us riled up enough to create an Orwellian state for those we're told to hate, then the state uses that dragnet and generalizes it to everyone?

I think we're getting off topic, but there's definitely some truth to that.

>>519723783
Can't seem to find that other screencap about AOC laws but they basically force men to go after women that have already been thoroughly programmed by jew media and the jew state. Best time to wed a woman is 12-16, and all Western states prevent that from happening.

>>519723952
That's the father's fault, ultimately. There's nothing wrong with the father having control over young adult women. It would be more distasteful in western culture for older romantic partners to do the same thing that fathers would do. We would similarly look down on older gay men doing this to younger boys.

>>519719989 (OP)
people will look at this post and decide the guy who posted it is subhuman.
then they look at the exact same post just with men and women swapped around and agree.
you cannot really argue with normalfag cattle. they are not sapient.

>>519724881
>you cannot really argue with normalfag cattle. they are not sapient.
This. Especially females. Lol at men who pander to the whims of females. I used to feel sorry for men who get divorced rape until I was at the registry one day doing errands. A woman came in and asked the clerk for a marriage license.

LMAO. I always thought the state just steps into your marriage and makes the man eligible for divorce rape when you start filing joint taxes or something. I never knew that people actually sign licenses with this feminist Weimar state to notarize a secular marriage. Why would a man ever sign this? Who hasn't heard of divorce rape and family court enslavement?

That's the day I lost all hope for normies.

I don't think women owe me sex, but women seem to think men owe them jobs and positions of authority

>>519722760
it's honestly okay whatever you call me: social outcast, incel, etc. I was bullied all throughout elementary and middle school and the people who did it are marrying and having children while I continue to suffer alone. so I'll keep shouting it until everyone gets the message: I deserve pussy and women owe me it. thanks!

>>519725428
tldr?

>>519719989 (OP)
It is a product of failed men, so yes.

>>519725846
society fails men. men are "failed" by society, so good use of the past, passive participle there

>>519725814
Women seen to think they're outcompeting men, but the reality is that companies that don't hire enough women get hit with 9-figure lawsuits ($100 million +) and are forced to effectively hire a majority of female employees regardless of competency. Same thing happens to the judiciary, academia, and government as a whole

>>519721381
>Largely. Traditional society did gave loser men a better chance to land a loser woman.

Then he's not a loser, dumbass. The status of being a 'loser' man is entirely artificial and controlled by the society at large. Whether or not you're a 'loser' is 100% controlled by people with power over you as a child or before you're born, you don't get a choice. It's why the self improvement movement died out, because a generation of men woke up and realized they were screwed from the start by a generation of elders who fucked them over.

its a good thing we have a dedicated Incel™ representative to show everyone that Anyone Not Currently Having Sex™ is a psychopathic retard and men cant possibly ever deserve any sympathy

>>519725968
>society fails men.
correct
>men are "failed" by society,
incorrect

see >>519726000 and >>519725428

the scale is tipped in favor of women by undismissable civil rights lawsuits and entire branches of government dedicated to taking things away from men and giving them to undeserving women

>>519721381
I love these people who say "loser" men as if it isn't decided for you before you're born or as if one accident (financial, vehicular, etc.) can completely upend your life and successes. but no, you're right, "loser," mediocre white men who were abused need to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and start giving women firm handshakes and unbroken eye contact and they'll get it someday

>>519722690
>Imagine how pathetic and violent things would get if the tables were turned and the guys who get sex and women handed to them had to live like incels. They would all have massive meltdowns.

That's what happened to luigi. The medical system fucked him up to where he couldn't have sex anymore and it made him pissed enough to shoot someone

>>519722055
>>519722971
eat shit

>>519719989 (OP)
Women owe me sex—just not human women

>>519726033
yes
>>519726000
I actually don't give a shit at the end of the day whether a woman's outcompeting me at her job because most of them are mentally ill animals hopped up on medication and alcohol half the time
>>519726161
it's the same sentence: one is active, the other passive. but the main point is that, yes, things are heavily skewed against white men and you can't use a term like "failed, loser man" without the societal context and all the ways society breaks precocious young men as they enter into adulthood
>>519726107
sympathy and empathy aren't popular because most people are animals and ghouls

>>519726833
>I actually don't give a shit at the end of the day whether a woman's outcompeting me at her job because most of them are mentally ill animals hopped up on medication and alcohol half the time
You seem to lack reading comprehension - they are not outcompeting, they are being artificially supported while males are artificially suppressed
>it's the same sentence: one is active, the other passive
Wrong. Society is 'failing' men like a teacher with a grudge 'fails' a student who objectively should be passing

>>519722301
>women, ladies, girls and other femmes will need you to be confident, funny and have good social skills, the need you to contact them often, listen to their problems, solve a few of them out of the kindness of your heart, dress nice, shower often, have good taste and try your best co woo them and maybe, just maybe they'll let you fuck them, and once you do you're in for even more demanding stuff than before if you want to keep on fucking them

God all of that sounds fucking intolerable. Just gimme a bunch of sex slaves I can buy and breed like cattle, miss me with all of that other gay shit you just posted. I cannot imagine how cucked your mind must be to rationalize kneeling to an inferior being like you are doing right now.

>>519719989 (OP)
There is no incel culture.
Incels have very wide range of political believes.
Half of the incels are redditor feminists.

>>519721505
>you're still an incel.
Proper term is escortcel.
Non celibate cant be incels by definition.

>>519720157
it's not ironic

>>519725335
Look at the scamdemic too. Normgroids really do have no agency and are a lower form of life.

>any interest in maternity reounced w*omen
>in 2025 Anno Domini: the Age of the Trap

>>519719989 (OP)
Everything is a men`s fault. You can`t expect any responsibility from women because they are children. Women can do only what is allowed by man.

>>519723193
> If you start talking about age of consent being too high, you'll get banned from any incel forum
This isn't true. Some of them claim to have rules against this, but they're hardly ever enforced.

>>519723393
>What's wrong with age of consent law?
Everything, starting with the fact that it was made by roasties to prop up their sexual market value and has no actual justification.

>The problem is that fathers can't control their daughters
Would you really trust fathers to make good decisions after seeing boomer parenting?

>>519729733
>sexual market value
You define that, not them.

>Would you really trust fathers to make good decisions after seeing boomer parenting?
Would you trust men that want to date and fuck them more? I hope not.

>>519729279
This is why they can't start their own companies and have to force their way into companies started by men with lawsuits

>>519729279
Except women are in charge and control all the property and resources so that attitude doesn't work.

"ohh they're just children they can't have a say" while they get to be in charge over you starting in elementary school

>>519729878
>You define that, not them.
That's how it should be, but it's not that way in simpworld. Roasties get simps to enforce their beauty standard which says that at 40, after squeezing out 3 of Tyrone's niglets, they're still just as appealing as 16-year-old virgin girls who didn't take 1000 nigger dicks.

>Would you trust men that want to date and fuck them more?
When the alternative is boomers, abso-fucking-lutely. Again, this isn't the way it should be, but it is. Boomer dads have repeatedly demonstrated that they're completely unqualified to make good decisions, not only about who their daughters can date but any decision regarding their offspring in general. It's boomer dads who are okay with their 16-year-old daughters dating high school niggerball players who will eventually have 3 convictions for armed robbery, while threatening to kill 25-year-olds who work for Silicon Valley tech companies for $350k a year for even looking at their teenage daughters.

>>519719989 (OP)
That's a nigger. He should be castrated and sent back.

>>519730263
>It's boomer dads who are okay with their 16-year-old daughters dating high school niggerball players who will eventually have 3 convictions for armed robbery, while threatening to kill 25-year-olds who work for Silicon Valley tech companies for $350k a year for even looking at their teenage daughters.

Fucking this. I'm not even one of the latter group and never have been, but it absolutely drives me wild that "Cuckservative" Late Boomer and Gen X dads will sabotage their own genetic legacy with such ferocity and conviction. True self-hatred at work.

>>519719989 (OP)
The problem with incels is that the average incel is either a socially crippled sperg or among the most estrogenized söboys known to mankind.
Their testosterone is bexically at the level of a tranny. But worst of all they reufse to change that one bit and prefer angrily clacking keyboards in their basements (their lack of confidence forbids them from raising their voice IRL).
Its one of the downright faggiest "communities" to ever exist, with most member furiously masturbating to their Chad image folders if they aren't busy with the most degenerate porn in existence.
Honestly I'm starting to get to the point where every incel shoudl be given a year to either de-fag himself or be forcibly feminized so their constant woman-like screeching stops.

Wow, the same thing happened to me yesterday!

>>519730671
I've personally experienced this situation. It convinced me not to bother going into a scientific career because what's the fucking point if the fucking gangbangers get primo teen hotties and I get told to settle for roasties or eat shit even though modern society depends on people who work in my field to exist? If there wasn't such a massive tech gap between the government and young men, these chucklefucks would have all been lynched 20 years ago.

>>519730785
>feminize people
>to stop woman-like screeching
You did not think this through at all.

>>519719989 (OP)
The only thing that guy is "owed" is a good beating.

>>519731440
>t. seething roastie witch
Your spells have no power here. You are surrounded by wizards.

>>519731440
Who's going to give it to him, simp? You? She's not going to fuck you, bro.

>>519731146
In the middle ages, slaves were routinely castrated. The main reason for that was that it made male slaves docile, calm and obedient.
By feminization I mean to snip off those superflous balls, so they quit seething and just deliver Uber eats instead or do anything useful really.

>>519721381
>it's loser men's fault that they don't wan loser women (aka ugly women)
>meanwhile ugliest bitches think they deserve top 0.1%
>t. pic rel

>>519719989 (OP)
Usually when a problem affects a significant portion of the populace, it's the fault of the society.

>>519731819
If you're going to openly announce your intention to enslave them, they're just going to kill you.

>>519731977
That's been retconned to only apply to minorities

>>519732135
>they're just going to kill you.

But thats the point. They can't. Because they are the lowest 10% of all men, not necessarily physically but most of all mentally.
The though ttha tthey do anything more dangerous than posting on the internet is laughable.
Oh, and a sizeable portion of them are of course pajeets. Realizing that they will never ever have sex in a White country, but at least they can succeed in dragging a few White men into their misery by "Blackpilling" them. Seems natural for scammers.

>>519733806
>but most of all mentally.
Utter retardation. The internet that you're fucking posting on was built by incels, you fucking moron.

Men are owed that. We're the ones who keep civilization from collapsing. We fight wars, build and maintain the power grid, till the soil, harvest the food, mine the raw materials, and keep the entire social machine running, for elites and for women alike. To say "no one is owed anything" is to say men are slaves expected to labor without reward, without love, without even acknowledgment.

Of course the elites in general doesn't care because they think artificial intelligence will replace the workers, therefore they have no need for the social contract anymore. But I remind you what happened to French royals when Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake". Sooner or later, hubris comes with a great price to pay, a massive price.