Thread 520160887

So the thing I don't understand about right wing people nowadays is how they pretend to be anti-establishment.
Like lmao you guys follow exactly the directives of the richest people in the world, you guys are at the service of the powertful and the wealthy and everything in your 'ideology' just align perfectly with the desires of the most powerful people in the planet.
You guys make a movie in your head where there is a big worldwide conspiracy to have the foreigners fuck the women you think should be your wives, but you vote for the people that hire them for a low wage and don't want to give you any reward for the work you put in to make that guy rich.
It's crazy, you guys are bootlickers while you pretend to be punk.
Lmao.

>>520160887 (OP)
Thielbux well spent

>>520160887 (OP)
>Like lmao

btw the reason i have 'ideology' in quotes is because your ideology can be summarized in: 'no blacks, no fags, no women' and that is barely an ideology

>>520161016
yea rite? lmao

>>520160887 (OP)
It's not complicated.

Left = more government, less freedom

Right = less government, more freedom

>>520160887 (OP)
I am one of the brown guys fucking white women. Shits awesome.

>>520160887 (OP)
spain passed laws allowing beastiality because so many moooooslimes are fucking the goats

http://www.bing.com/search?q=spain+beastiality+laws

>>520160887 (OP)
>"All my life...I only follow the strong...it all I ever known." - Boar Raider Chief Bullbo

>>520160887 (OP)
> you guys follow exactly the directives of the richest people in the world

what does that even mean? how do we do that? I like Elon, not Zuckerberg. You fucking morons let Zuckerberg's algo program your brain and allowed twitter to censor anyone who disagreed with the narrative. We're nothing if not FAR more discerning than the left.
You realize Trump supporters didn't even uniformly get the vax, and I think most of us here didn't.

>>520161160
Politics are more complicated than politics that, it’s why you see anarchist hanging with commies and libertarians hanging with natsocs.

>>520161160
except it is the right the ones that impose their ideology and reduce freedom
What freedom does the right want to bring? The freedom to love whoever you want? No. The freedom to abort if you want to? No. The freedom to call out on your boss if he is being abusive towards his workers? No. Freedom to make demonstrations on the street if you feel oppressed? No. Freedom to choose your religion or your place to live? No, not that one.
The only freedom the right wants is the freedom to exploit workers and not pay taxes, all the other aspects of your life they want to decide, usually according to a religious book.
Also where anarchism is placed in your pic clearly tells how little you know about politics.

>>520161411
>I like Elon, not Zuckerberg
except you do. Elon's interest and Zuckerberg's interest are on and the same.
Not to mention Zuckerberg is clearly far right and is constantly pushing right-wing ideology on his social media

>>520161411
>I like This silver-spoon billionaire, not the other one! I'm not a bootlicker!

>>520161339
Dude you are posting something (source: a bing search) that is debunked even in the page that you link. I don't know how zoomers are a generation raised by the internet that does not understand the internet but here we are.

>>520160887 (OP)
You're a puppet house nigger bitch.

>>520161937
nah m8, you are the bitch that acts against his own interest to pander to billionaires that would never consider you a human being.
It's calm though, you do you.

Like for example, I've seen right wing people say that Greta Thumberg works for the powerful. What? that is the most stupid thing I've ever read in my life.
It is truly astonishing that there is people out there that think that the establishment would pay a girl to talk shit about them.
The powerful are the ones that are polluting the world dude why the fuck would they pay a retarded underage girl to talk shit about them.
Honestly the things you guys think would fall apart one by one if only you guys would really think about them for more than 10 minutes.

>>520162301
She was literally riding around on a Rothschild yacht for a while

>>520162105
>billionaires that would never consider you a human being.

Billionaires aren't human beings and fuck the government and everything it does. There's always a third option.

>>520162389
Not true, you believe anything that is online and validates your beliefs.
It is true that she was born into generational wealth, but not the kind of wealth she is speaking against. And the things she is doing are a great way of spending generational wealth, if you ask me.
I'm not saying she is a moral monolith, mind you, it was just an example of how the right always targets whoever speaks against the establishment and the wealthy.
>>520162427
Billionaires and other capitalists are anti-government by definition.

>>520162927
Fuck them both. I refuse to live under gay nigger communism too.

how's that immigrant cock tasting op? you think your thoughts are your own, so sad. I know your education system. Your teachers thought exactly as you do

>>520162927
So the Rothschilds sold the boat to a middleman before they put Greta on there

>>520160887 (OP)
>Like lmao you guys follow exactly the directives of the richest people in the world
LOLNO. The Left is the bunch who "follow exactly the directives" of Soros, Gates, Novogratz, Hoffman, the Tides Foundation, the Ford Foundation, Arabella, and all the other billionaire-funded NGOs.

>>520163425
No one's thoughts are his own, anon.
Everyone, including you and me, drinks from the thoughts of people that came before us. Only the pèople whose thoughts you follow are the powerful and the wealthy, and not the other way around.
>>520163836
>the left is the one that follows the directives of the big capitalists.
Lmao

>>520163985
im telling you you are spouting establishment points. You are the establishment. Go to any high school you'll see kids being taught the same. The evils of Franco and the right wing. How Spain was such a shithole because of realistas, etc. The right wing isnt even a concrete group or ideology it spans multiple from nazis to royalists , you think nazis were on the side of the rich and powerful? you know absolutely nothing. Guess that makes soviets and americans the good guys right

>>520161160
this nigga never heard of commies and anarchists working together as in Spain for example

>>520164144
Dude, nazis literally sought support from the bourgeoisie, they drew money and support from big corporations that then were given big war-time contracts. The establishment in capitalists countries are the capitalists. It is retarded to think the left wing is on the side of big fortunes and if you had read a book in your life you would know this.
I don't want to change your point of view or anything. It is undestandable for a person to be racist or sexist. What denotes a lack of comprehension of politics is to pretend that something like "anti-establishment right wing" exists, or to pretend that leftists pander to big money.
You are entitled to support big money like you do, the thing that bugs me is that people that defend the interests of millionaires pretend to be counter-culture, and that only happens in the right, and only happens as of late.

why do you think anyone but you and other leftists care about 'being punk' and being counterculture? do you not know that 'counter-cultures' are literally created by tavisstock and laurel canyon? everything you say is pure projection. you are projecting the fears of what you are on to 'the right', which isnt nearly as unified as 'the left'. you're the perfect goy slave

do you believe in global warming?
do you believe nazis are the worst evil?
are you anti-racist?
are you against christianity?

where do your views differ from the estbalishments? inb4 vague retarded shit about 'workers owning the means of production'

let me guess, you also believe the establishment narratives of 9/11, the holocaust, etc, you think israel had no role in jfk. you're a clown and there's millions like you, all created and useful idiot foot soldiers
lmaoing at thinking antifa and blm arent 100% controlled op.

>>520164936
Dude, it is the big corporations the ones that put good money into making people think that global warming does not exist. Who are the big polluters in this world? Big corporations. Who would have the most to lose if the world took global warming seriously? Big corporations.
Big corporations are not racist per se, but they sure love to take their companies to Bangladesh so they can hire little kids and pay very little to their workers.
Everything in your post yells 'I am the bitch of big corporations'.

>>520160887 (OP)
You smell of Plebbit. Go home faggot.

>>520165101
everything you believe is pushed by the establishment, simply saying big corps push the opposite is your ideolgoy speaking, which is shit. dude, you're a goy slave

>>520165098
>9/11
>jfk
American issues, I have no opinion.
For the holocaust thing, I don't think we know or can know the exact number of people that died in the camps, but it is undeniable that the death camps existed. Fuck the jews for the most part, though, in that we agree.
Thinking antifa, which is an anticapitalist movement, is controlled by capitalists, is retarded though.
>>520165214
>Your anti-establishment views are pushed by the establishment and my views that align with the goals of the establishment are not.

>>520165406
You have no opinion that isnt taught in every university to incoming freshmen. your problem is that you're all ideolgoy, and you dont look at facts. it's clear to see that antifa and blm are funded by the deep state.

>Billionaires and other capitalists are anti-government by definition.
this view shows your retardation. you're all ideolgoy, not facts.

the problem is you don't understan what the establishment is, which is the jew. what are your views on mass mihgration, on race mixing etc? what do you think about marx coming from a long line of rabbis?

>>520160887 (OP)
The main problem with your presumptions is your abject lack of understanding of.. basically everything, in usual liberal fashion.
Let's take elections for example:
It makes sense to vote only for people or parties that actually stand a chance of being elected or getting seats. The alternative is worse than throwing away your vote, meaning it would be better to not vote than vote for someone who won't succeed at all, and naturally it's not a coincidence the system is designed like that. If you have questions about this ask ChatGPT.
I'm not seeing any electable Hitlers in any case; that leaves only the next best thing: some pozzed wannabe conservative larper, usually.
That has nothing to do with preferences but practical necessity.

>>520165560
>s. it's clear to see that antifa . are funded by the deep state.
Antifa is not a thing dude, it is a name for a group of ideologies, it is not a thing that can be controlled because it is not a thing, it is not a political party or any tangible group of people that you can get a hold on.
>you're all ideolgoy, not facts.
it is factual that billionaires want less state, less restrictions, less taxes, more freedom of movement.
>>520165641
Mass migration is something that has always happened in the history of the world, my great-grandfathers went to Venezuela and Cuba to make a living, and now we get Venezuelan and Cuban migration. We need the migrants anyway to maintain population and economic growth so it's calm by me. I live nearby a migrant internment center and I never had a problem with the black people that roam around.
>race mixing
I'm spanish, race mixing is pretty much our thing.
>marx coming from a long line of rabbis?
Not relevant. Aren't jews supposed to be greedy and money grabbing? Doesn't sound communist to me. I don't consider myself a communist anyway.

>>520166015
>i've never had a problem
here's another issue with your good goy worldview: it's not just about, its about what works best for society as a whole. you, being trapped in liberalism which is a jewish mind prison, rarely think beyond yourself which is why your ananlysis is so shit

>>520166182
*not just about you

>>520160887 (OP)
>you guys follow exactly the directives of the richest people in the world
Yeah, we're not commies.

>>520166015
Nothing in the universe happens for no reason. Everything that happens in human society on a macro scale has organization behind it, including antifa, because otherwise it wouldn't happen. Being an unwitting tool doesn't mean they aren't tools, and neither does it mean they can't do things spontaneously on their own, but even then the ideology is "guided" and ideas are implanted. That is in fact normal and universal.

>>520166182
>its about what works best for society as a whole.
The more people that pays taxes the better for society as a whole, gererally speaking. There is more money in the state's box, that then goes to pay for roads, hospitals, schools, sewage treatment, etc. I don't see how having closed borders benefits anyone except the people that gets nervous when they see people they don't like.
>Everything that happens in human society on a macro scale has organization behind it, including antifa, because otherwise it wouldn't happen.
Not really, the organisation on social movements like that is rather tenuous. I would never say that the rise of far right organisations is a great conspiracy by the ultra-rich to lower worker's conditions, even though that is one of the consequenses of it and you have some ultra-rich people supporting right wing influencers. But no one is telling them what to tweet on the daily, same as no one is telling left wing people what to believe other than the ideologists that some people choose to follow.

>>520164479
you're retarded on levels you cannot fathom yet but i'll adress your points anyway
>literally sought support from the bourgeoisie
were "bourgeoisie" kicking the ass of commies on the streets as brown shirts? were paid vacation for workers, affordable housing and vehicles, and jobs for everyone in the "bourgeoisie" interest? yes its in everybody's interest
> they drew money and support from big corporations
so did everyone else, newsflash not all corporation interests are aligned. Big industry is the one building shit for you, doing the studies, organizing, and with the know how.
>The establishment in capitalists countries are the capitalists.
in case of Germany currency was worthless if you remember your history. Hitler sought a new form of currency based on labor. The likes which we havent seen since then. So much for it being the establishment.
> left wing is on the side of big fortunes and if you had read a book in your life you would know this.
They have been financed by glowies for decades. In latin america they have the back and support of both narcos and the church. You can find a local communist party in every city in the world. Cant say the same about far right parties.
>something like "anti-establishment right wing" exists
an entire world war was fought to bring it down
> to support big money like you do,
third positionists which you call "right wing" (national socialists, key word: socialist) were changing the concept of money and wealth itself, there is nothing capitalist about it but you're an ignorant kid fresh out of school.
> defend the interests of millionaires
employment for everyone through public works and the best working rights in any country, just big bad capitalist interests bro

>>520166881
again, your response is showing that you are NOT touching grass. Look at reality. more taxes =/= more social benefits. you think the issue is a lack of funding for healthcare, school, etc, which is retarded and an obvious grift. the costs of education and healthcare go up, and the quality goes down. that's what happens IN REALITY, not in your jewish mind prison ideology. you live in a construction of your mind and you do that because you're lazy. it's much easier to have an idealogy of simple formulas (like, business and government are at odds which each other, are you fucking kidding me you dumb retard?) than look at how things work in actual reality

>>520166015
Fun fact. All Qaida wasn't a thing either. Same kind of nothing structure. No official leader. Antifa are just like that. A patchwork of Lord level groups with lots of small funding streams and some big ones, with support from existing power structures like governments and media companies.

>>520167272
see op, this is how antifa actually operates, which is opposed to your mind prison view of 'its just an idea' which is a sentiment that has been expressed by world leaders like biden. your mind never even thinks to look at empirical evidence because your have a jewish mind prison inside your mind

>>520166945
>were paid vacation for workers, affordable housing and vehicles, and jobs for everyone in the "bourgeoisie" interest?
No, that is why left wing workers' movements had to fight the burgeoisie to get those rights.
>so did everyone else
Wrong
>Big industry is the one building shit for you, doing the studies, organizing, and with the know how.
Big industry doesn't do shit, it is it's workers the ones that produce.
>They have been financed by glowies for decades
That is retarded even to suggest, it would go against their interests.
>an entire world war was fought to bring it down
Hitler was not anti-establishment, he literally made every rich guy in Germany richer and gave them free slaves for their factories, some of which were not even relevant for the war effort.
>(national socialists, key word: socialist)
yeah national socialists were socialists and Jordan is a country founded by Michael Jordan.
The idea Mussolini had of calling his movement "social" was precisely to trick people into thinking it was somehow pro working class. Apparently some people are still being fooled by it to this day.
>>520167091
>the costs of education and healthcare go up, and the quality goes down.
Not true, at least not here. Anyways I feel like what you wrote is not really a critique on taxes but rather the opposite, you think money from taxes should be sacred and should be spent in the best way possible, which is the same thing that I think.
>business and government are at odds which each other, are you fucking kidding me you dumb retard?
They are, obviously, big corporations are the ones that push for less interventionism by the state. Less laws that tells them what they can do with their money, less taxes to pay, more economic freedom in exchange for less equality. It is the state the one that is responsible for the redistribution of wealth, which obviously big money does not want to happen.

>>520167272
All Qaida wasn't a thing either. Same kind of nothing structure
Al Qaida and almost every terrorist group on earth are hierarchical organisations with a clear leader or group of leaders.
>>520167641
How? Who is paying them? Are banks paying them to burn down ATMs, for example?

>>520167802
>how?
you should take it upon yourself to research how antifa and al qaeda ACTUALLY work. you can even use to archive. dount you will though since you're so mind broken by kikes

>>520160887 (OP)
Gay race communism is taught in schools. Think back to your own education: how was Hitler portrayed? What were you taught about "racism"? Theres more to the establishment than rich people. Institutions like academia and the media are dominated by jewish leftwingers who hate white people. Thats how you came to your beliefs, you bought everything they sold.