Thread 520233181

What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?

>>520233181 (OP)
Probably the same as their poseidon or whatever the fuck it was: retarded vapourware that will never physically exist.

>>520233235
this

>>520233235
It already exists

>>520233181 (OP)
I hope total full nuclear war erases us all.
Humanity is a mistake that needs correcting.

>>520233181 (OP)
>What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?
Having a cruise missile that can reach a target across the globe is really cool. It might take a while and there is a chance for a component to fail, but its not going to be shot down with any missile defense systems other than a fighter jet.
Imagine coming low over the horizon, nobody is going to want to shoot it down with a stinger even if they could.

>>520233288
lol

>>520233181 (OP)
that would be pretty fucking troll if russia had these missiles cruising all over the world constantly

>>520233181 (OP)
>russia has nukes, guys
>they are about to use them, for real this time
>we need to deploy troops and send 60 billion usd to israel

>>520233235
it was tested successfully a few days ago and flew 15.000 km. norway confirmed it because they were tracking it.

>>520233181 (OP)
in theory they would be sent up to loiter somewhere for second strike capabilities.
0 chance they actually get used though.
there's no non-nuclear way to use them, so they would get a nuclear response in retaliation.
the media coverage is your standard russian nuclear sabre rattling.

>>520233181 (OP)
Russians really shouldn't be allowed to handle nuclear materials

>>520233181 (OP)
>make scary global range missile
>subsonic
>gets shot down by machine gun fire

Seems like a low orbit satellite would be just as useful, multiple satellites instead of one vehicle which if destroyed could contaminate an area, and no that area isn’t always “the enemies” territory
Low use time sats that deploy masses of drones would be more effective and harder to target as well
After they run out of drones they just burn up in the atmosphere

>>520234581
Yea... If OP's image is correct, and this is intended to cruise 25-100 meters above ground level, and at that can only attain mach 1, LEO drop pods remain the more economically viable solution.

By its stats, this thing looks as easy to shoot down as an early MiG, but with the added diplomatic cost of being explicitly nuclear.

>>520234440
do you want a radioactive engine to fall near you ?

>>520234921
if you shoot it down its nuclear payload explodes. and a nuke exploding at 25m create an hell lot of radiation for centuries on.

>>520233368
its purpose is polluting with radiation the enemy territory and exploding its nuclear payload when someone tries to shot it down.

>>520233948
> flew 15.000 km
on which route ?

>>520233181 (OP)
You're maybe a chink or a jeet but there are probably westerners ITT. in nuke warfare you kill the origin sites before launch. how do you kill a nuke already in the air and can stay there for a really long time? slap a few of these on a truck or a bomber jet and they can be launched from anywhere. this is why nuclear armed stealth bombers are so powerful, and likely the reason they are revealing these. its possible to kill them, but its harder. many will likely malfunction in mid air (another reason they will never use them unless they intend to kick of nuclear war which also isn't going to happen) and will also likely have little to no way to communicate with them in a real war and can be intercepted easily once detected. if they want to communicated with the missile they have to send something out, use a satellite (which will be blown up immediately at the start of a real war), or have the missile fly back near to friendly airspace for communications which makes it easy to spot. they can't be launched and left in the air for months or years prior to a conflict because that makes them able to be tracked and logged and defeats the purpose.

>>520233288
Get a load of this faggot

>>520233181 (OP)
I recently learned that steel forged since WW2 has higher levels of background radiation than steel forged before then. Precise medical technology and whatnot actually needs to repurpose salvaged steel rather than newly forged stuff, and so there's a lucrative shipwreck salvaging business around metal recovery.

>>520235893
>this retarded myth again
Yes, I'm sure it's impossible to find iron ore anywhere that isn't contaminated by mystery background radiation, so we have to salvage steel out of the ocean instead before it's the last steel on earth that's still good
The only reason this was made up was so China wouldn't grab that one specific wreck near their shores

Nukes are not real

>>520233181 (OP)
Climate change and racism.

>>520235550
>>520235450
>>520235334
Are you getting paid to post this bullshit as part of the new fear campaign?
Radiation will only ever get you if you lick dust off the walls or streets or you let the russians set a reactor on fire for weeks without telling anyone that the smoke is going to rain down on their crops.
And even the aftermath of Chernobyl was much less sever than what was predicted by the fearmongers

Meanwhile places that actually got hit by atomic bombs now have cities built on top of them again and all it took was a few decades and there was no centuries of everything being turned into a brown wasteland with flowing green goop.

Go fuck yourself

>>520233959

>Russia is provoking a nuclear response

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/us-nukes-in-poland-are-a-truly-bad-idea/

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/poland-fixed-us-presence-will-warrant-russian-response

Nuclear power doesn't work like that

>>520235970
No, that's not the problem, it's literally the air itself. We're speaking in absolute terms. As in, you need steel that is functionally perfect in terms of isotope contamination. I also don't know what you're talking about, and I don't care.

>>520235893
>>520235970

I thought this was supposed to be about lead?

Finding old deeply buried lead pipes that had not absorbed trace surface radiation.
Literally worth their weight in gold.

>>520236537
Probably both and more.

>>520234921
Probably something to do with this.

>>520233959
>there's no non-nuclear way to use them
This. They might as well use a nuke because it's going to get the same response with the contamination it causes.

>>520233235
I love how you speak about Russia like this but not China whenever they claim to have a new weapon or next gen whatever the fuck.

>>520233181 (OP)
This concept isn't exactly new. We already came up with the idea back in the 50s. But obviously now that the Russians are thinking about doing it, it's suddenly a "Russia bad" moment for the ZOG propagandists to capitalize on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a13978519/slam-cruise-missile-nuclear-thermonuclear/

Why do they bother with these gimmicks when they already have a far more effective deterrent in the form of ICBMs?

Then again it's not my taxes and it's money away from forces that they could actually use.

As far as I can tell part of the goal of these weapons systems Russia is creating, is to cause NAFO retards to cope and seethe, which is good because their salt is usually pretty funny.

>>520237718
because they attack from all angles at once.
there will be ICBMs, Hypersonics, Hypersonic Glide vehicles, nuclear cruise missiles, drones, medium range ballistic missiles, nuclear torpedos launched from planes, submarines, ships, containers etc. coming from every possible side.
some of them are guaranteed to hit something.

>>520233181 (OP)
the turbines can't run continuously without maintenance, thing will fall our of the a sky due to mechanical failure

>>520233181 (OP)

Stop being a retard. OP has an ass for a brain. It's when OP fell out of the stupid tree at birth and got stuck in the ground, and has an ass for a head. Speak shit, thinks shit. Has no other rationality, except shit for brains.

It doesn't fly for years. It burns out. It's why it's a missile. So it explodes.

It supposedly had unlimited range. It doesn't mean it last indefinitely.

>>520238064
russia isn't china

>>520237863
You seem to think that most of them wouldn't hit something. Missile defenses are laughable, just look at what happened to Israel againsts Irans missiles despite them having the best defense of any country. The US, China and Russia could all fire a single ICBM at each others capital and I can guarantee you that more than one of the MIRVs would hit, because they do so at mach 23+.

The only way to "win" a nuclear war is a decapitation strike where you nuke the the enemy leadership, their replacements, their replacements replacements, their comms and redundancies upon redundancies before they manage to fire their own missiles at you. But this isn't possible because there are too many targets that are too dug in or too mobile. Even if you nuked DC or Moscow now with a suitcase nuke they would still have replacements under a dozen bunkers all with the authority to launch in case the president was unreachable. This is why the cold war never went hot.

Nevermind I just figured out the logic behind this weapon.

It takes about 2 weeks for radiation to dissipate to levels where you can walk in the ruins of a nuked city. Also in a full scale nuclear war both sides would have likely managed to expend or destroy each others nuclear arsenals so you may not be able to nuke the enemy survivors after the initial exchange.

But by having cruise missiles with months flying time you pace your attack in such a way that they attack the enemy every 2 weeks after the initial attack, thus preventing the enemy leadership from resurfacing from their bunkers without risking being nuked.

>>520233181 (OP)
Insurance policy, the weapons go up with orders to loiter and attack in the future. Should any strikes miss those targets and the military is decapitated they will take out or double tap targets.

So Russia's answer to the US building a system that shoots missiles as they launch, is to have missiles that are always in the air.

This shit is fucking retarded, if the missiles were constantly in the air flying patterns over the ocean then you fucking KNOW some engineer will find a way to track it, and shoot it down midflight.

What a fucking waste of time.

>>520235334
You shoot it over the ocean

>>520238717
We could also invest in THAAD-ER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3SMs_IR1vc

>>520233235
It does exist you retard.

>>520233959
It's to get around the predictable ICBM missile arcs. It is much harder to stop a low flying munition as ICBMs always do the same pattern.

>>520240472
So you have every single inch of land covered huh.

>>520240994
I think we can do what they did in WW2 and mount some M2s on planes and have them down them over the sea as they come in.

>>520233181 (OP)
Fun

>>520241059
You see every single thing in the air huh? Impressive.

>>520235550
That's retarded. Like the demon core flail, everyone dies

>What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?
Sword of Damocles effect.

>>520233235
oink oink snort i agree oink

>>520233181 (OP)
It's fucking awesome.

>>520239494
That's not it's purpose. Cruise missiles fly very low to the ground. Most radars do not actually see them well what sees them is sight on the launch point. These can be launched by a vehicle in the boonies of Siberia and wed have no idea. They fly maybe a few meters above the ocean so most radars won't see it. Once it's past the border of the territory it's very hard to stop it at that point

>>520240944
it's a bonus, but wouldn't need a month of nuclear powered flight time to have unpredictable trajectories for cruise missiles.
if anything it would be more predictable than a simpler system that doesn't spend loitering since you would have less time to detect and track it

>>520233181 (OP)

>ICBMs not feasible anymore

>>520242398
Most radars wouldn't see it it would require an away to find it. Limited range. It can go anywhere and is low flying. Id it going to decide everything? Probably not but it is a real threat and people just assume it would be seen. Most cruise missiles are not seen easily. You are mistaking them for ballistic missiles.

for bantz and teh lulz

>>520242727
Awac*

>>520233181 (OP)
> 25-100m
Nigger, that's flying straight into small hills, nevermind skyscrapers
Months of flight my ass

>>520233181 (OP)
If this is anything like their PAK-FA program, they will have a total of 1 protype after 20 years.

>>520233181 (OP)
Current anti ICBM systems rely on a specific operation of such missiles - ie. They take off (ideally detect that here), then they have a hyberbolic flight trajectory on known flight paths (over arctic) - they ideally be intercepted here, and before they get too close to ground.

This technology changes everything, it could fly south towards the pacific, then to south America and then north through mexico for example. There is no infrastructure to intercept ICBMs let alone hypersonic missiles on such trajectories, and it would be very difficult to do.

It basically makes it so that it can come from anywhere and it's impossible to intercept even one

>>520234103
that's the only thing keeping jews from genociding the goyim, you retard

>>520233181 (OP)
we already do that, they're called satellites and they stay in orbit for decades

we have one armed with a nuke above every one of our adversaries capitols and can drop a stategic payload ontop of them within a minute.

i don't give a fuck putin

your modern cruise missiles suck dick and your previous "uninterceptable" doomsday hypersonic doesn't dare travel near kyiv or our 50 year old gen 1 patriot batteries stationed there anymore after getting slapped out of the sky lmao

>>520233181 (OP)
>>520233235
this one seems retarded atleast the drone in the sea makes sense.

what is the point of this? you just gonna have these guys doing rounds along your borders ?

>>520233235
You are just jealous Russia is actually developing its nuclear tech.

>>520233560
If you want the whole world to hate them, even people who aren’t currently against them - sure.

>>520245371
>armata has entered the chat

>>520241797
delete that picture from the internet

>>520245564
But I thought Armata wasn't nuclear?

>>520233235
You got em worked up with this one lol

>>520245771
there's no reason to think there's less corruption with burevestnik than armata

do you just trust whatever they say?

>>520245950
I trust most things that are related to nuclear stuff because I work in rosatom and understand how the structure works from within. Russia's "nuclear world" is almost completely separated from everything else and lives by its own rules.

>>520245371
Yeah I'm surprised nobody is really emphasizing that they basically crated 2 SMR's. And also Rosatom is basically a state within a state. They are gonna have their own EV's now and boats and a bunch of other shit. I lose track.

>>520233181 (OP)
It is not a first-strike weapon
It is a retaliatory weapon. SO after we hit them with a nuclear missile, this thing keeps flying around, and drops a few nuclear warheads on us.

>>520246023w
if you say so

all the adekvatnie people I know have fled russia already. I don't think you can have a geriatric dictator and not have that corrosive downstream effect, nuclear forces or not

>>520233181 (OP)
The problem is: wtf do you do with a missile flying around for months/years?

what if it needs mechanical maintainance?.
what if the war it was supposed to rebalance via nuke has finished?
How do you land a nuclear missile?
Where do you land a nuclear missile?

Questions not answered or even accounted for by the Russians, they´re subhuman like that.
I know my fucking Russians, 120IQ but they behave like actual niggers from niggafrica, see Vladimir Kramnik for current manifestations of how these mongolian niggers behave.

>>520233629
>russia has nukes, guys
>they are about to use them, for real this time
>so please stop defending yourself

>>520240662
Won't work. You had tech like the Sprint missile in the 1970s with mach 10 speed and nuclear warhead and Regans Star Wars after that and you still gave up on the idea.

It's just much easier to make reentry vehicles, glide vehicles etc. that are hard to shoot down than it is to make a missile that can shoot them down. The THAAD is just there to prevent north Korea from nuking you with a handful of 1960s tech missiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msXtgTVMcuA

>nuclear turbojet engine
hahahaha may as well say that's magic powered engine. You snow niggers aren't even able to build normal jet engines.

>>520239641
> some engineer will find a way to track it,
It spews so much radiation it would be harder not to track it

>>520233181 (OP)
Proof it actually exists? Let me see some pictures and test footage of it actually working. Russia couldn't even test launch their ICBMs without them blowing up their whole fucking silo, or their second/third stage motors failing to ignite. Same with their SLBMs. The Bulava has ~50% success rate due to second and third stage failures. Not to mention just how many reactor problems their subs have had over the decades, literally dozens and dozens. And you expect me to believe they suddenly mastered microreactors small enough to be fitted to a standard CM in an indirect cycle configuration? lol lmao even. I was born a day, but it wasn't yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMuS5kaDBI
>>520233288
>It already exists
May I see it? And the Posiden while you're at it? Or do they both go to a different school, and I wouldn't know them?
>>520233948
>it was tested successfully a few days ago and flew 15.000 km.
Proof?
>norway confirmed it because they were tracking it.
MayI see this confirmation?

>>520233235
Both were confirmed and exist but the Zigger propaganda is obviously massively exaggerating the capabilities.

Russia has neither the know-how nor the money to create any cutting edge tech, let alone doomsday weapons. We still have to take it serious tho to keep our own weapons and counter-measures top-shelf. There's no harm in using our massive intelligence apparatus to keep track of it and develop counter-measures or retaliatory weapon systems.

In the end we already won against Russia. Their country is a poor aids-ridden shithole and will always be one.

>>520246268
Been keeping up with the last couple presidents you guys had?

>>520235450
>if you shoot it down its nuclear payload explodes
No it doesn't you absolute retard. A nuclear warhead is extremely hard to detonate, as you need 360 degrees of HE explosions detonating within milliseconds of each other to implode symmetrical or you just get an regular HE explosion with radioactive material in it (a dirty bomb). Which is why modern nuclear warheads have a designated spot on them for EOD teams to place a block of C4 on that will explode the warhead and destroy it as a safety disarming measure. I swear, /pol/ is full of the most absolute bottom of the barrel low IQ trash anymore that knows fuck all about anything but being a failure at life.

>>520247220
> and will always be one
Hey, they might become Chinese territory and chinks will get rid of aids

>>520233181 (OP)
My guess is that it is just a technological demonstrator with the extra of making some good propaganda headlines.

>>520233181 (OP)
Can't wait bitches.

>>520233181 (OP)
Is that the new mongoloid missile

>>520233181 (OP)
Is that the new mongolood missile?

>>520235550
>its purpose is polluting with radiation the enemy territory
No... as Russia explicitly states that it uses an indirect cycle power unit. This means that the reactor is sealed away from the power unit - be it ramjet or a turbine, and the reactor core never comes in contact with the air used to propel the CM. They use a secondary loop system to extract heat from the core and use that medium ( liquid metal) to heat, or drive the primary propulsion unit (ramjet or turbine). You're talking about a direct cycle power unit wherein air is directly channeled through the reactor core where it is heated and expelled through a nozzle to the atmosphere. Again, you're an idiot that doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. The only think I'm confident you're knowledgeable in is being a low IQ loser. Leave the intellectual discussions to humans; if I need to know how to be a complete failure at life I'll be sure to ask, until then, fuck off to a thread more your speed like /chug/.

>>520233181 (OP)
The problem with nuclear engines is that even if the fuel lasts for months/years, you've got to land for maintenance and lubrication every so often.
Plus all aircraft have a limited lifespan due to metal fatigue, and flying 24/7 is just eating thousands of flight hours for no good reason.

>>520237718
Because their ICBMs are shit, and after all the very public failed tests people laugh when Russia screams I-I'M GONNA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! So, Russia had to come up with another doomsday vondavaffle to try and get people to be afraid instead of laughing at them. Their last ICBM test literally deleted its own silo, some before that the second and third stages failed to ignite, and the Oreshnik disintegrated in mid air creating a synthetic meter shower for amused onlookers below.

>>520238584
Yeah, it's worse. It's not the early 80s anymore, and Russia isn't the USSR.

>>520245371
May I see this so-called tech, Ivan in office 3b floor 20 of the Lakhta building?

>>520234581
If you had nukes in geosynchronous orbit, they could be rather small. The physics package of a nuke is not much larger that a fire extinguisher. Wrap that in a heat shield and drop it at 25,000MPH and it would look just like a small meteor...until kablooey. No launch detected, just boom. Kind of like the rods from god concept but with a nuke. It has to exist, because it can exist.

>>520248364
>and after all the very public failed tests
Yeah? Which are those, by the way?
Jews wouldn't just randomly say lies on the Internet, would they?

>>520233181 (OP)
It flew 18 hours not years or even month

>>520233368
What happened to SS-27 ?

>>520248725
It needs 4 km/s to deorbit from geosynchronous orbit.
It would be quite big rocket and it would be visible.

>>520248857
It didn’t actually fly

>>520233181 (OP)
Well, it's not an operational nuclear weapon of course, Russia lost the ability to manufacture and maintain them a while ago, but it's essentially a dirty bomb supposedly capable of flying at low altitudes. The actual threat potential isn't high, but monkee has to cope about his failed 3 day SMO somehow

>>520248755
I know in pidorussia they don’t teach you anything but you’re only making yourself look stupid by denying observed reality

>>520233181 (OP)
Has anyone else been having nightmares about nukes? I keep getting vivid dreams and they're honestly really fucked up. WMDs are genuinely terrifying

>>520248755
I guess that 60m wide crater where the RS-28 SARRmat silo used to be is all kike lies? Kek. The last 4 of 5 SARRmat tests have been failures - which is an 80% failure rate, and the deployment keeps getting delayed year after year. It was supposed to be 2018, then 2020, then 2022, 2023, and now just recently Putin admitted it still wasn't deployed and they were planing its deployment soon (tm). Stop the cope.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-11/news/sarmat-failure-casts-doubt-russian-heavy-icbm
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/21/politics/russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-test/index.html
https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2023/10/russias-sarmat-missile-saga-reflects-an-industry-in-crisis?lang=en
https://x.com/Defence_Index/status/1930712878895526357

>>520233235
It exists. Go back to Ukraine.

>>520233181 (OP)
It could be in response to our experimental unmanned orbiting spacecraft.

>>520246651
The Sprint worked but people don't like the idea of a 2 kiloton bomb going off 10000 feat over their heads. Though I would rather that than the multi megaton blast in its place.

>>520233181 (OP)
Since it's a cruise missile it can likely be palletized, which means it can be concealed inside of cargo or truck containers. This means that Russia could theoretically strike the US from behind through concealed cruise missile salvos on US soil, it could possibly mean a successful annihilation of our ground based silos leaving us with only submarine and aircraft based retaliation.

>>520233181 (OP)
Hyped up vaporware. Even if this nuclear turbojet cruise missile is real, the flight time will still be severely limited, regardless of having unlimited fuel.

Look at the maintenance schedules for jets. Turbojet engines are exceedingly complicated pieces of machinery that need to be constantly serviced.

As a nuclear warhead delivery system, ICBMs mirvs or submarine launched weapons are just as capable of delivering their payload. Imagine wasting resources on a single use expendable munition with the worst possible cost efficiency.

>>520250534
>it can be concealed inside of cargo or truck containers
I wonder how much power the mini reactors generate? Could they drive portable anti-drone lasers? Anti-tank lasers? High-speed canoes?

I will never get bored of the losers coping how it cannot possibly be real, Russia is weak, Russia bad, They just don't want to admit facts that they don't like and think enough wishful thinking can make them go away.

>>520251909
Why donkeys and Chinese golfer carts on front and not Apmata and other wunderwaffe?

>>520251678
To be fair this can be done with conventional cruise missiles that benefit more from the reduced range, I think it lends itself greater operational flexibility to have strike anywhere range already inside of enemy airspace rather than beginning outside of it where there is greater chance of being detected by early warning systems. Containerized cruise missiles are genuine threat, I'm not sure why you are being facetious towards this prospect.

>>520233181 (OP)
Why does canadians think their country is any revelance in the fucking world you have like 60 tanks im pretty sure norway can invade your ass how shitty your army is.

>>520233181 (OP)
>Subsonic cruise missile
>"flying around in the sky for months or years"
Shit's getting shot down the instant it goes near anything.

>>520233288
The Diplomat is a movie, it's not real

>>520252342
go back, your country needs you to crush weak asiatic scum on donkeys

>>520233181 (OP)
>flight altitude: 25-100m
what is this nonsense? it would crash into random shit

>>520233181 (OP)
i wonder if russia knows israel has the shutdown codes to their new missile

>>520252342
Because its a war of attrition and you are coping by not understanding it on purpose.

>>520252867
Aren’t you supposed to attrition your enemy and not yourself during such war?

>>520253446
Being retarded and not understanding simple concepts does not affect Russia at all. You are merely coping and comforting yourself.

>>520233948
>>520247052
it flew over my house

verdict: fact checked and true

>>520253593
Yes, it’s hard to understand how barely trained 18 y/o on donkeys and golf carts dying after 12-30 days on front are good for attrition

>>520253679
I repeat, no amount of nafotroon coping is going to affect Russia in the slightest, just like how troons coping in their circlejerk discords does not make them women. Copes and feeling have no impact on physical facts.

>>520253780
Are KIA rates 50 times higher than Afghanistan or Chechnya good for attrition?

>520253863
>I repeat, no amount of nafotroon coping is going to affect Russia in the slightest, just like how troons coping in their circlejerk discords does not make them women. Copes and feeling have no impact on physical facts.


Not even giving a (You) this time.

>>520253907
Here’s a physical fact. That small city lost 3 men in Afghanistan but already buried 188 in SMO with expectations for another 100.
Don’t you like it?

>520254172
>I repeat, no amount of nafotroon coping is going to affect Russia in the slightest, just like how troons coping in their circlejerk discords does not make them women. Copes and feeling have no impact on physical facts.

>>520252571
it is indeed retarded.
there is some reasoning behind it.
as depicted with this image:>>520236930

but again, it cruises barely over mach 1. and that is way too slow for todays standards.
if it flew in hypersonic speeds an altitude of 3000 feet, it would be much more valuable.

>>520247052

Prove to me you're a human and not a bot.

>>520254200
>facts
>coping

>520254358
>I repeat, no amount of nafotroon coping is going to affect Russia in the slightest, just like how troons coping in their circlejerk discords does not make them women. Copes and feeling have no impact on physical facts.

>>520233181 (OP)
So... why is this a problem? Seems 3rd gen fighters could intercept this.

US air defense are not pointed at every direction to the missile can come into undefended areas and reach deep into the US main land

>>520246651
Star wars is an insanely fucking awesome idea.
Detonate nukes in space, concentrate the x ray flux into what is more or less a funnel, then point that funnel at every single target in the sky, hundreds of targets, 1000s of kms of range..

>>520244657
A deorbit manuever takes a few dozen minutes. Also all space-based nukes were banned in the 60s, so no, you do not have any. You have 60-year-old tech with no replacement and a degraded, rusted away industrial base to try and update your deterrents.
It is comical that the death of the USSR also killed the once-great American military. Now you can't build new ships, can't make shells, can't produce tanks or drones in appreciable amounts. Even your plane-building is degraded and pumps out hangar queens instead of war machines.

>>520254424
Everything you’ve done this thread is cope

>520255297
>I repeat, no amount of nafotroon coping is going to affect Russia in the slightest, just like how troons coping in their circlejerk discords does not make them women. Copes and feeling have no impact on physical facts.

>>520233181 (OP)
That engine translation is incorrect, it's actually.
>NUCLEAR TURBOJEET

>>520233181 (OP)
If I had nukes I'd want them to fly. Who wouldn't want their nukes to fly? What kind of dumbshit question is that.

>>520233235
>>520233279
Thing is, I would love for it to exist and to be used.
You are AFRAID you might be wrong and it does exist. Basically you are copping. I am hopping.

>>520233235
Yemen was hitting ships with hypersonics, which the entire NATO lacks the ability to make. America still has 0 hypersonics.

At this point Im willing to believe Russia and China have UFOs, while we just have a TV that reassures us we are powerful.

>>520233181 (OP)
The goal is mass cheap drone + Burevestnik strike to overwhelm detection and defense. The poor mans stealth

>>520237863
Dont forget chuckchi migrants with nuclear backpacks

>>520257910
yemen did not have hypersonics man.
they used drones with volume saturation and a few of them hit their mark.
US navy was wasting a literal fortune trying to shoot those cheap ass drones down. it was unfeasable from the get go.

>>520233181 (OP)
Another wunderwaffle which won't fix the collapsing Russian demographics or the cratering demand for fossil fuels which will permanently destroy the Russian economy.

>>520233181 (OP)
>>520233235
Actually you have a point:
Can you prove it even has a nuclear warhead? It's a sort of nuclear ambiguity.
It will be intimidating even if there's just confetti inside.

>>520259810
lolwut

>>520233235
This is embarrassing for you dude

>>520233181 (OP)
Pointless 1950's mad scientist shit

>>520259878
The oil supply has increased as well as more and more countries transitioning to renewables. Besides the world economy is on the brink of collapse which all insiders know and are preparing for and that will tank demand for a while. Russia is done for.

>>520260064
That's not cratering demand, it's fluctuations in supply and demand, which have been happening since the first oil crisis.
It's clear demand won't taper off for a while yet, and this is without taking into account non-energy uses of fissile fuels, like making plastics or lubricants, meaning that's all purely hypothetical.
Just because the UN is yelling at member countries (who in essence do the yelling as a form of virtue signalling) doesn't mean anyone actually will stop using fossil fuels, without even accounting for the overall inefficacy of the UN lolz.
>muh European post-fossile-fuel technologies
Two more weeks.
Fusion power plants aren't expected to arrive before 2050-2060. Add another 20 years to that and it might be on target.

>>520233288
its real in anons mind.

>>520245950
What does Armata have to do with corruption? That an expensive tank project peters out because drone development shows it's mostly useless?

>>520233560
>altitude: 25-100 meters
a Russian nuke just flew over my house

>>520246326
>How do you land a nuclear missile?
>Where do you land a nuclear missile?
Shut the engine off and let it drop into the ocean with a parachute, pick it up with a ship.

>>520233181 (OP)

That's a big banana!

>>520247052
Who let this NAFO redditcattle out of /k/? The Bulava has a decade of successful launch tests, it's not 2008 anymore. Russian nuclear subs like the Yasen-class are widely considered by western official themselves as some of the most advanced in the world, it seems you're still stuck in the 90s when the Russian Navy was chronically underfunded.

Rosatom alone represents 90% of global nuclear technology exports, but you talk as if Russia is some African country barely figuring out nuclear reactors. Absolutely hysterical.

>>520254424
The height of zigger argumentation and rethoric. What pituful little creatures.

>>520262608
Yeah yeah muh russia strong. Still remember when we were told about muh superior soviet superweapons all truought my childhood. Fuckers still collapsed and all I recall from the late 90s to early 2000s russia while working there was misery, poverty and cheap underage prostitutes and really good operas.

>>520263340
let me know when your country has a manned space program.

>>520263727
Means jack shit if your country is either

A Russia
B India
C a jewish puppet state run by either corrupt or geriatric pedophiles while 40 million of it's citizens require snap and over a hundred thousand die by drug overdoses.

Only country with a manned space program that hasn't degraded into or always was a shithole but improved is China.

>>520233290
Speak for yourself, burritoeater. What about all the puppies and kitties?

>>520233181 (OP)
>What's the end goal of nukes flying around in the sky for months or years?
The same as the end goal of nukes that has been underwater for months or years. In fact, for hundreds of years, the limit is unknown.

>>520248446
Cope harder you chinkshill.

>>520265026
Any launch video of that? Can we get a demonstration? I hear London is nice this time of year...

>>520265463
Hardly, it's top secret, they even blur out some details of abandoned Soviet mines in documentaries on the military TV channel Zvezda. But the US Pentagon has confirmed the existence of an underwater nuclear AI drone. Norway has confirmed the recent tests of the Burevestnik. Some intelligence agencies around the world are officially given a glimpse of all this. Others are not, and they have to obtain information on their own. For example, in 2023, Anthony Blinken demanded that Russia immediately ban the development of an unannounced Russian missile that knocks out all electronics in its flight path. Russia said it knew nothing about this, had never seen or heard of anything like it, and nothing of the sort. Kek.

Blinken's fear:
https://en.reseauinternational.net/decouverte-alabuga-larme-secrete-russe-plus-puissante-quune-bombe-nucleaire/

>>520259810
>>520260064
/k/ faggot nigger talking points are so fucking pathetic its unreal

>>520233181 (OP)
Why have a jet drop a bomb on something when you could build a bomb that could drop itself on a thing for only 10 times the cost of the jet?

>>520233629
You dont need excuses to do that
You say Israel is our greatest ally.

>>520233181 (OP)
These missiles can't fly for years. Even if the reactor fuel would last for years, the turbine won't.

The purpose of Burevestnik and Poseidon is to ensure mutually assured destruction even in the eventuality that US anti-ballistic missile systems turn out to be more than just hot air and even in the eventuality that Russia's nuclear bombers are destroyed on the ground in a surprise attack.

>>520267237
What's the logic in using a cruise missile that can be easily intercepted over hypersonic MIRVs from a traditional ballistic missile which are notoriously difficult to intercept?

>>520233235
The hardware is very much proven and that was done in the 60s. Plenty of publicly available research on some really advanced fission stuff like HTGRs and molten salt reactors. I think the chinks built a couple pebble bed HTGR based on American research recently. They are connected to the grid too.
The SLAM is the most insane version of this loitering nuclear weapon concept and it's feasible too.

>>520264155
nice cope irrelevant zog vassal

>>520267532
>What's the logic in using a cruise missile that can be easily intercepted

it turns out 'intercepting' missiles is very difficult, and not easy, and that reality is compounded in HUGE nations that have big gaps in monitoring

>>520233181 (OP)
> 25 meters
Literally just flew over my house

>>520247052
>Proof?
The circle of Proofster is complete, ladies and gentlemen.

>>520267532
The US is working on ABM systems to counter traditional ballistic missiles. Thus, Russia wants to diversify delivery systems. Russia is also working on other delivery systems such as maneuvering hypersonic missiles that can serve as nuclear delivery systems, e.g. Avangard + Sarmat and project 885M + Zircon.

Burevestnik is basically the same capability as Tu-95 + Kh-102, except longer ranged and harder to destroy on the ground. If one thinks Tu-95 + Kh-102 is a useful capability, then so is Burevestnik.

A subsonic cruise missile can be easily intercepted only if you have the prerequisite defensive systems in the right place at the right time. The idea with an unlimited range cruise missile is that it can attack from *any direction*. It is technically possible to build a defense even against this, of course, but the cost of building such a defense is disproportionate to the cost of building Burevestnik. To patrol a 13,000km ring around CONUS 24/7 would suck up most AEW aircraft in US inventory. To simultaneously defend CONUS, EU and Japan would be unfeasible with current AEW inventory.

Even if the US builds a 100% reliable defense, Burevestnik would still likely be worthwhile investment for Russia if it forces the US to waste large amounts of money on an all-encompassing 24/7 homeland AEW and interceptor capability just to defend against a threat that probably costs a fraction.