Thread 520379263

First of all, we're on the doorstep to a Dark Age, when most knowledge we've accumulated is lost, most skills are lost, most literacy and numeracy is lost (already highly observable in young people), and society de-complexifies to a preindustrial way of life, such that most people spend their working lives tilling the fields, like people did for millennia.
This outcome cannot be avoided for a number of reasons, but the primary one is boomer-brain.
What, then, is boomer-brain? It's those habits of thought and behavior that formed in the second half of the 20th century when life was at its easiest point, by far, in all of history. These habits or thinking and behavior, of course, are all thoroughly self-centered, neglectful even of the needs of immediate family because the individual self is considered to be all that matters. And of course it turned out this way, where the population who grew up in the easiest, most abundant time in history became the most selfish people in history because prosperity breeds selfishness while struggle is what teaches humans the importance of cooperation, since it is through cooperation that we human, who are a social species of animal, survive.
The boomers, based on their boomer-brain programming, have systematically raped the future, putting the US hundreds of trillions of dollars into debt when you add up not just the official federal debt, but also the unfunded obligations promised to people (mainly to boomers), like the $300,000 per year pensions of mid-level managers in government departments who get full retirement benefits after 25 years on the job, meaning they retire at 50, live to be 80, and collect million in benefits for three decades.
And then there is the raping of America's, and the entire West's, reputation. The 21st century has been a time of constant wars of aggression by the West, led by the US, that have destroyed the West's reputation in the world, to the point where the non-Western world is biding its time for

>>520379263 (OP)
its inevitable strike of revenge at the West, which of course will happen at some point because the West is in steep decline militarily, economically, culturally etc.
And so the West's prestige has been raped into oblivion.
But there's more. The relations between the sexes are now destroyed, to the point where men and women hate each other as their natural default attitude to each other, at least by age 25 when they've had a few inevitably awful relationships full of lies and manipulations. So don't expect romantic love, or a lasting marriage, or children you don't end up fighting a custody battle over and end up with, at best, joint custody of.
And then there's the daily social life, which is also destroyed, where everyday you have to interact with people who are just shitty for a variety of reasons: they're miserable and unfulfilled, they're struggling and worried, and they're just hostile to other people because they, just like you, have had one bad interaction with other people in our society after another after another. So our society is destroyed, by which I mean social relations, along with even the will of people to form social bonds of any sort, have evaporated almost down to nothing.

The end of our civilization and way of life is coming. There is no reversing course or stopping the train at this point. If there was ever hope of avoiding this outcome, then action, serious action, would have needed to take place decades ago. But the boomers, using their boomer-brain programming, were too concerned with their own feelings of pleasure, and gaining more immediate pleasures, to care about the breaking down of society that was plain to see even back then.

We'll have a rough transition into the new, darker age, a transitional period lasting generations at least, possibly a few centuries. Yes, whites will either go extinct (see pic) or just exist in tiny pockets of isolated white villages scattered around each continent. But in the end there is hope

>>520379700
because whatever people come out of the other end of this transitional period will be people who get to enjoy a normal society, with normal relations between the sexes, with normal bonds of family and community, with normal spirituality (of whatever kind exists at that time; all the current major religions may end up being swept away in the Dark Age to come, as Dark Ages are often times when new religions form) that orients their lives and their thinking with a normal and healthy system of values and priorities.
The people of, say, 300 years in the future, well, yes they will be farmers like most people through most of history have been, and yes they will be living in villages and hamlets and a few will live in towns, but they'll also be generally content with their lives, because they'll be living in normal societies, not this sick postmodern experiment that we live within today that has taken every age old practice, standard, norm, rule etc. and turned it on its head.
It doesn't take money to be content; all you need is the basics, then having any greater amount of material wealth does nothing to contribute to happiness, and any happiness you think you have from material wealth beyond what's required for basic security is just an illusion that disappears within, at the most, a few weeks of buying whatever new bauble you bought that you mistakenly believed would increase your happiness.
Contentment comes from living in a normal world with normal social relations and normal families and normal, age old values. That's all anyone needs and it's all that most people even want, since it's just the hyper-ambitious few, with abnormal values and expectations, who pursue more than this simple kind of life.
It wasn't until the mid-20th century, that era when the boomers came of age and which era evolved the boomer-brain due to this era's hyper-prosperity, easiness, and materialism, that people started to forget what worked, across societies around the globe,

>>520380145
for thousands of years and really, had worked since the beginning of agriculture some 10,000 to 12,000 years ago according to the archaeologists who have examined the earliest farming practices based on extant evidence and then came up with a general date, a timeframe, for when the Agricultural Revolution occurred.
The Agricultural Revolution changed everything about the way people lived and related to each other. Before farming, everyone lived in a hunter-gatherer society, usually a little nomadic band, in which the only leader was whoever had the most hunting and/or gathering knowledge at that particular time, so when he got too old or injured or ill or just died, a new leader would be recognized by the forager band. With the start of farming, a whole new way of living took shape, and the transition from foraging societies to civilizations ("civilization" literally means "the way of life of the cities") took a few millennia to unfold. But since we got the format down pat for civilized life, which is to say for agriculture-based life, we've known how to be content in a civilization, which is to say in a society that is based on farming.
It's not until the past 75 years or so that society began to forget all the old norms and standards and expectations of the past ten millennia or so and, in a wave of staggering hubris, decided that we postmoderns know better how to go through life, and how to live, than the hundreds of generations that came before us and lived in civilized societies.
Well, the return of the old ways is inevitable. Hubris summons Nemesis and what made the hero of the story great also ends up being the cause of the hero's downfall: this is the nature of Greek tragedy, which is just a microcosm, formatted as narratives or stories, for how the world actually works.
We won't live to see it, since the transition back to the old ways, which is the transition to the next age of human civilization, will take multiple lifetimes to unfold.

>>520379263 (OP)
>society de-complexifies to a preindustrial way of life, such that most people spend their working lives tilling the fields, like people did for millennia
dont say it like its bad thing. germanic agrarian existence is peak humanity

>>520380616
But in remote posterity, for the kids of our kids of our kids etc. etc., like ten to twenty generations from now, will live to enjoy, once again, those normal kinds of lives that civilized, i.e. farming, peoples had for ten millennia or so before the middle of the 20th century. And these distant progeny of ours will be content. And their contentment is the best we can hope for in our lifetimes, since we simply cannot live long enough to see that new age for ourselves.
The best we can do is help smooth the breakdown and downfall of our ultra-modern (way too modern) industrial civilization, so that the breakdown of life as we know it can be as unpainful, or can involve the last amount of pain, as is possible. However, there will be tremendous suffering anyway no matter how good we do to stymy the worst possible consequences of a dying civilization, for example a full-blown nuclear exchange.
What we do in this life, indeed echoes in eternity. So long story short, the best you can do is help set up our remote progeny for the decent, contenting lives they will be blessed with.
We ourselves cannot have normal lives in a normal society, but we can help those who come after us enjoy all these things. And that is the only realistic thing on offer to us to provide our own lives with meaning and purpose: to smooth the way to the return of normal civilization while hyper-modernity breaks down and causes all kinds of hell in its death throes. Live for those who will come after us, which, in itself, is a rejection of our current world and its ways, since this world is all about self-interest and disregarding whatever doesn't involve one's present level of pleasure or pain.

>>520379263 (OP)
>The boomers, based on their boomer-brain programming, have systematically raped the future, putting the US hundreds of trillions of dollars into debt when you add up not just the official federal debt, but also the unfunded obligations promised to people (mainly to boomers), like the $300,000 per year pensions of mid-level managers in government departments who get full retirement benefits after 25 years on the job, meaning they retire at 50, live to be 80, and collect million in benefits for three decades.
Lol my grandpa was born in 1930 and he did that. I tried to do that too but it turns out they want you to have a master's and military experience and also not be a white male.

>>520380699
I agree fully. I just think most people today aren't ready yet to accept that the way people lived hundreds of years ago is much superior, in terms of quality of life and contentment, to our current way of life.
And the bad part for us is none of us will live long enough to see the return of traditional societies. We live in the transitional period when ultra-modern civilization is breaking down and before its inevitable successor civilization, which will be agricultural again, takes its place.

Bump fuck boomoids

>>520381210
The second half of the 20th century was, by a mile, the easiest time to live out of every time that has ever occurred in the history of this planet. A small portion of the population today still lives at or near the level of an ordinary American in 1960, but you need to be in the top 10% of the income range to still have that experience.
And that experience is ultimately bad anyway, since it makes the people who experience it decadent and unrealistic about how life really is.

I don't see society deindustrializing, not long-term anyway. I can see enough people within a society being apathetic enough to attempt it (Hippies did this to varied degrees of success), however the issue is that your entire premise exists in a bubble. Agriculture and a country's defense and expansion capabilities are entwined, and a country that cannot produce food or technology as quickly as its neighbors will be picked clean as easily as the natives were. China does not care about your sentimental bullshit, which is every bit as anachronistic as the boomers you're bitching about.

>>520381454
It's funny because that was quite literally what we used to call the middle class, then the upper middle class. My grandfather was the least successful of 6 brothers and was still a millionaire just by sticking with it up until he got his decent promotions when Raygun was president.

Today my mom was telling me about how she had to rent an 'efficiency' apartment, which is like a studio but smaller. Never heard of these, don't exist anymore. But her rent and utilities was only like 500 bucks. Now it's like 1900 bucks for a studio with utilities and other fees included and they can literally reject your application and steal the fee. Rumao.

There are a lot of data centers near me, I was thinking I'd be one of the guys who plugs/unplugs their stuff and get an associates in engineering or something. Maybe in 10 years I can be a little less fucked. Or not. It doesn't really matter since if I'm doing nothing I want to kill myself anyway.

Post-apocalyptic life would be kino

>>520379263 (OP)
>TL:DR
Cool INCEL manifesto you've got coming along here. Keep us posted.

>>520379263 (OP)
>that most people spend their working lives tilling the fields, like people did for millennia.
You wish but they wont let you do this. Also many people lost know how to do it. Boomers didnt ruin everything because of pleasure. Its because of "trust the institutions" mindset.

>>520381517
Industrial Civilization won't last anywhere, not even in China, though the late industrializers will likely have industrial civilization for a bit longer than the early industrializers will.
And national defense or no, the world doesn't guarantee that existing abilities to make weapons and project military power will continue. In fact this whole century now, the US has been squandering its military power on expensive and unnecessary adventures that have cost the country enormous money (and generations of future debts) and that have tarnished the US's reputation as some invincible military force. So the US's military power is already in steep decline with no possibility for this to change.
The fact that Europe's neighbors were better equipped for conflict than Europe was didn't prevent Europe's Dark Age and stop the breakdown of the western portion of the Roman Empire. What cannot last, will not last.
And yes, eventually people will be apathetic enough that, although they won't actively push to end our current civilization, they also won't put in any effort to stall its demise. Think of how giant empires of tens of millions of people collapsed when 20,000 Mongol horse warriors showed up on their borders. The Mongols won in those cases, and won easily, because the countries they attacked were severely demoralized and had populations who didn't intend to do anything to save their countries. They knew the way of life offered by Genghis Khan was better than what they had, so they let their countries be conquered.
Same happened when the "barbarian" German tribes attacked one province after another of the western part of the Roman Empire in the 400s. Lots of the Roman population realized the German tribes had a better way of life than their own, since life in dying empires and dying civilizations is always extremely burdensome as the empire or civilization runs hard just to remain in place.

>>520382076
Such posts, which say nothing of meaning but instead consist of ad hominems, are tacit admissions that a satisfactory counterargument isn't available.

bump for interest

>>520382144
The transition back to agriculture is inevitable, despite the loss of knowledge and skills pertaining to agriculture. There will be a transition period, and it will be difficult, but those skills will be relearned because the alternative will be to starve.

>>520379263 (OP)
it is worse than you realize op

The problem is ultimately self-correcting. Those who are keeping the "boomer-brain" ideas aren't having large families, it's generally the same smaller families as the boomers themselves. Those that go even further in this direction, where they took a lot of the newer software updates from Jews, will have even less children. A lot of those who feel for the worst stuff like "climate change" and actively hate themselves for being white or decide to troon out, they'll all having 0 children.

And yes, the brown people are having large amount of children but they only get to do so because of whites. When there simply aren't enough whites to support them then it naturally places a cap on their growth. And the subsequent generations of whites, that didn't fall for all the boomerisms, won't be prioritising them over their own kind.

This kind of thing happens all the time in nature. You have some species like rodents or rabbits that breed a lot to the point where they hit a limit in food supply and they die off en masse. Or their natural predators start to have a boom as well and then you get a bust that way (and then a bust in the predator population).

All of this is obvious if you start to think generationally, which the boomers themselves never did. They still don't think that way and at this point there's no point in trying to change their minds. You have to focus on yourself, and think of the future. In a decade or so a large portion of these boomers will be dead anyway.

The best thing white people can do is to quietly start to form communities. You don't tell people you're building the "wolf's lair" or "vahalla" or whatever. The best thing to do to fly under the radar is turn an existing town or village that's already 99% white into a stronghold, where you get to know those people, and when the older population dies off you make sure that a white person gets that home. It can't be stressed enough that you don't openly advertise it. If things kick off maybe.

>>520382785
Excellent comment
Very astute analysis
The only place I differ is I have no special attachment to the white race and don't very much care which populations end up surviving until the new agrarian dawn. Whites (and yes, I'm white), have done many great things, but we also created the super-decadence that's the bane of the world today, so on the whole I'd say our existence is a wash in terms of what we've contributed to the world. All the good we've done is being canceled our by the new bad, or even by the good's own unintended consequences (they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions).
But I have no desire to criticize whites especially. Ultimately, whatever human populations survive and get to live in normal societies again will go on with their lives and just live contenting lives, and that's enough, and it's all we can really expect from the world. People who want more are living in delusion, specifically a delusion that this world is, or can be, some sort of paradise, which is not possible under any circumstances.

>>520379263 (OP)
>First of all

>>520384399
>I have no special attachment to the white race and don't very much care which populations end up surviving until the new agrarian dawn.

Good. We will put you in a cage and laugh at you. "Hey look at this retard."
Or maybe we will just kill you.