Thread 520553939

IS THIS TRUE ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF YOUR MOVEMENT??

https://www.richardhanania.com/p/groyperization-accelerating

We are elite human capital

Yes definitely

Reading

Wow so true

>>520553939 (OP)
Way too much text dude.

>>520553939 (OP)
How do you head towards someone who constantly flip flops on all his positions?

cant decide who hate more, richard or nick

>>520553939 (OP)
Honestly its a pretty good assessment. Nick's fanbase is technically smaller than Tucker's, and he's less charismatic (though still quite charismatic) but Nick has political energy in a way that these other guys do not.

If Nick decided he wanted to do terrorism, he could find groypers who would eagerly kill and die on his behalf, whereas Tucker's fanbase would not take a bullet for him, even though they respect him.

Its also not a coincidence that Nick has refused to associate with women. He might not be straight, but I think its moreso because he understands his fanatically loyal base are alienated young men who resonate so strongly with him because they see a man alienated from women in him.

Low status men are the most politically radical and dangerous group of men because they have nothing to lose in tearing the current system down and everything to gain from creating a new one. And the western world has an entire generation of men that are alienated from society, the economy and especially women. This is what gave rise to the Fascists and the Bolsheviks in the 20th century.

This is what true political energy is

>>520554219
No

>>520554323
Yeah Richard is good at analyzing these things. He might have some cringe politics but he can read people and movements well

>>520553939 (OP)
I read it, and i think i agree.

Also i disagree, i mentioned this in another thread. but let me repeat it.

MTG runs in 2028 with massie as vp, nick endorses them as true america first who are anti israel.

Vance gets trumps endorsement and can claim to be the true heir to maga.

The vote gets split, which leads to some moderate like marco rubio or desantis winning


thats my prediction, maga will split and a moderate will win, sorry richie the libtard

richard, i know you are reading this, this isnt the groypers taking over. this is maga splitting in half

Yes

>>520554323
no
the problem is china, not gringos

>>520554417
My concern is that Nick doesn't have it in him to be the radical that his base needs to be truly revolutionary

Hitler was a WW1 veteran and so were most of the men of his generation, they fought and killed on the front lines and were hardened enough to overthrow the state. Hitler himself was fearless and ready to die at any time. Nick just isn't this guy, none of us are. The most radical groypers are willing to go to those lengths but I have a feeling Nick himself will step back from the brink if his Reichstag moment comes

Elite human capital post

>>520553939 (OP)
110 will be America

>>520554323
>Its also not a coincidence that Nick has refused to associate with women.
lmao, hes a christcuck aka a feminist, on tuckers stream he was even malding about incels jacking to porn instead of talking to "real women". real woman haters are still alienated from a lot of the right wing, and most of them are young men.
hes a first step to a hitler, not an actual hitler. nick fuentes has literally stated that he prioritizes the catholic church over the white race, this is A COMPLETE 180 away from hitler.
the movement ergo the next international wave akin to communism of the 1920's wont be anything comprehensible today, however it will take in the ranks of the far right, as well as the far left.

>>520554611
nick is a loser virgin who is scared of women and hangs out with a pedo and cousin fucker, he will never be a leader of anything

>>520553939 (OP)
dnrd

Very astute! I must read more of your stuff Richard.

>>520554693
>no tattoos no septum pig ring clussy webm's + 1

can someone tell me what the fuck the word groyper means and where it comes from?

TRVTH NVKE

>>520554323
>Nick has political energy
Nick is more sincere in his beliefs than Tucker, Cruz or any neocon grifter. Tucker for example has ad reads every 10 minutes on his show, same thing with Elijah Shaffer or Crowder. Nick OTOH has been running on the fringes powered by nothing but his belief in himself. He's been in this game since the age of 18. Whatever shape the future takes, Nick will have more influence on it than any establishment right-winger.
>>520554323
>Low status men are the most politically radical and dangerous group of men
Nick understands Vanguardism, this is part of the reason why groypers are so influential despite their small numbers. If you want to change things you need a small group of hardcore isolated young men who will do anything in pursuit of power.

>>520554688
Nick was moderating himself to try and appeal to a larger audience but its a facade, his earliest stuff is his most authentic in terms of his real views

Even I was taken aback by how violent the wifejack response was from the groypers and Nick never disavowed them

And on the white stuff, yeah white nationalism is a dead end. The next American conflict will be a class conflict with racial characteristics, but whites themselves will be split along class lines. Low status white men have more in common with low status hispanic or black men than they do with high status white men or white women generally. Ditto for black and hispanic men vs their own women. Young hispanic men in particular shifted hard right on Trump while hispanic women still vote far to the left. If you still thing ethnonationalist politics is viable in current year America you're living in the wrong century

>>520554702
>nick is a loser virgin who is scared of women
Yeah, that's why he's going to win

>>520554866
Groypers - a pepe variant known for groping fat asses and titties

>>520554866
it comes from here as always

Good points

>>520554939
nope, you need women to win, nazis won the female vote, that put them over the top

America first is inevitable

>>520554918
In Self Categorization Theory, a subsection of group psychology, people choose their leaders based on who most closely resembles their core ideals while also being a superior example to the average member of the group

Hitler was chosen by the German people because he most closely conformed to the ideals of the Germans while also being above the average German in charisma and intelligence. Nick fits this category for alienated young men, which is why they chose him as their leader. And Nick was chosen, he himself didn't do the choosing. Hence why my biggest worry is that he won't have the resolve to go all the way when the time comes

>>520554323
Good post

>>520555061
There won't be a democratic solution to this problem. Nazis only achieved their majority because the Reichstag fire allowed them to ban the KPD (German communist party). There will be a similar Rubicon to cross and Nick has to decide to cross it

I dunno, I just see this as another internet culture that the west is late to.

Netouyo and the Korean Equivalent have been prevalent on the internet since the late 90s. They even lead the charge in the sort of incel-right-wing-crime with stuff like the Nishi-Tetsu bus hijacking, The Kobe murders, the later Akiba slasher, etc.
This is nothing new or novel, the west is just late to it.

There will never be a real cultural shift towards it outside of the internet because people think they're cringe losers. They'll scream at the top of their lungs on the internet, and shit up every message board forever, and occasionally some incel will murder people (probably something that will occur significantly more than in asia since the USA has such a culture of mass-murders).
They're never going to stop ruining the internet, but people will never take a liking towards them because of how annoying and cringe they are.
The only real change they might bring is the JQ, and that's because young leftists are just as anti-israel as the young right.

It probably won't 100% map to how Netouyo's are, but it's going to be like how Idol Culture was a map for western e-girls and whoring. If I had to guess it would just be that it's going to be a lot more incels shooting up random people.

>>520554940
How the hell is a transgender & conservative & Catholic?.he's whole sex change/gender swapped goes against he's ideology & faith.

>>520555209
>Aura, kys.

I honestly came so hard the first time witnessing. Like we all did.

>>520555209
well in that case nick is a coward, i dont know why you glaze this idiot so much. he is just some moron in his moms basment whining about the GOP and jews. he only cares about making money from his horde of brown fatherless loser zoomer groyper pals.

screen shot this post 15 years from now nick will still be in his moms basement whining about the jews

>>520555061
>You need women to win.
That exactly the reason why white nationalism will win never win in this mondern era.

Another Richard w

>>520554939
>If you still thing ethnonationalist politics is viable in current year America you're living in the wrong century
except one can be racist and supremacist against every race. christian civil nationalism can be a substitute for white nationalism, but christianity will be in the crossfire soon, hence inevitably the civic nationalism. as the superstitions of both sides rear their heads it will soon become obvious that christianity had origins in feminism and liberalism and that the modern left and the right historically feed into eachother. notice the left and right becoming anti-tech and anti-progress as both the left and right always ultimately preceded from nonsensical judeomasonic values rather than ultimate intelligence and morality. a technocratic schism is inevitable and it will be the most racist, sexist, antitheist, and nationalist ideology that will ever exist, it will remove the boundaries of race by removing the birthright of race and replacing all races with a superior one, and it will make women's sexual value defunct ultimately making them extlnct. this could happen soon, or this could happen later, but ultimately this is the future of humanity.
>inb4 schizo

>dude i am so le elite social engineer le groypers are beneath me i spend all my time masturbating to secret reddit cannibalism human trafficking subs (invite only) im so ELITE
sorry o worldly master but you created the conditions where nobody can own a house and you get stabbed to death by your pet niggers on the commute to slavery

>>520555061
>nazis won the female vote
females follow whatever males are currently dominating society, you fucking retard, and plus most of those fans are paying him to get off to him berating them as a fetish; most of those fans are LIBERALS and he's continuously falling for the ragebait. women are not to have their desires be listened to, ever, women themselves have always been the most supportive of ideas that can go directly against their own interests, since the dawn of time.

>>520555353
It was good and I loved the character design, but I spent half the series waiting for the plot to start before I realized there wasn't actually a real plot

>>520555375
Nick is the chosen sovereign of alienated, excess men. The very categories you are listing as reasons to dislike him is why he resonates so strongly with his most radical followers. And there are far more of them than there are of you, and they are willing to go much farther than you are

>>520555521
Nick uses Christianity because it gives him a means of attacking Jews and the class they represent without needing a complex racial ideology like the Nazis had. Its not a coincidence that Christianity rose as the reservoir of antisemitism in the late Roman empire, which was just as much of a muttified mess as current year America is

>>520555759
bitch, it's about Frieren learning how to live fully and seeing what she missed out on for decades.

subplot is Fern returning magecraft to what it used to be in all its glory.

also fuck 99% of elves. and i want Frieren's dommy mommy to PEG ME every freaking night.

>>520555759
>Nick is the chosen sovereign of alienated, excess men. The very categories you are listing as reasons to dislike him is why he resonates so strongly with his most radical followers. And there are far more of them than there are of you, and they are willing to go much farther than you are
and thats why he will fail, he can have his gay cult of pay pigs, he will never accomplish anything of note politically

Nice

Richard is an honorary groyper

>>520555884
Yeah but that's boring. I was expecting Frieren to discover that her former companions souls were trapped in some vortex by the demons and she had to go release them or something. I also didn't like Fern, she was a dull character. Stark was genuinely interesting and well written though. It had a ton of potential which is why I was annoyed at the lack of substance

>>520555892
You're just mad that the revolutionary class isn't what you want it to be. People who are happy with their circumstances don't want to overthrow the system, nor do people with a large enough stake that they have too much to lose.

Watch the radicalization go parabolic once zoomers hit their 30s and realize their youth is gone and they have none of the milestones previous generations had. Millennials at least had dating and sex despite being economically fucked

>>520556056
NO U

>>520553979
How to get a clowngirl gf?

>>520555759
>Nick uses Christianity because it gives him a means of attacking Jews
yet for centuries christianity has been used as a means of defending the jews. i believe modern jew hatred simply comes from people being logically tired of blatant jewish puppeteering and israel. but it was still christians that let them in.
>>520555759
>Its not a coincidence that Christianity rose as the reservoir of antisemitism in the late Roman empire, which was just as much of a muttified mess as current year America is
that was only because at that time christians like the other two religions hated fucking everyone that wasn't them, not because of a special intolerance towards judaism, which as we all know does not exist from most christians today. the faults of effeminate christian liberalism and feminism and tolerance of mass migration pluralistic integration eventually showed itself and collapsed the empire, JUST LIKE the united states. romans did not need christianity to destroy babykillers in carthage, it simply came from the product of being intelligent and white. jews will always be parasites and christianity will always serve as a weakpoint for parasites, and i believe that if america became a theocratic civil nationalist state, that history would eventually repeat itself again. i believe religion is tying down the entire world, its no coincidence that world jewry is a religious concept in of itself.

>>520553939 (OP)
What a load of absolute horseshit.
What has Fuentes accomplished? Fuck and all besides lining his own pockets. Has he gotten anyone elected? Has he gotten any bills passed? No and no - because his entire schtick is being a contrarian faggot, not offering real solutions.
Being popular on twitter for being an assclown doesn’t make you the vanguard of the right wing.

>>520556708
have you consulted xi "do nothing, win" jinping about this?

>>520553979
All these tiktok bitches need to be slapped.

>>520556183
ur aus tho

>>520556575
If you want a more empirical evaluation I'd suggest Kevin MacDonald's Separation and its Discontents. He talks about Christianity in the Roman empire as a social identity process specifically to attack Jews, who were the dominant ethnic group in the late Roman empire. It was universalistic by design, because Jews are particularistic. It united the disparate ethnic groups across the empire that were all individually too weak to attack the Jews one-on-one but once united under the church, they were able to pressure the emperor into increasingly tightening the noose around the Jews until they were driven out of the empire altogether in the Byzantine period. And this was quite an accomplishment, as the Jews were a major source of tax revenue for the empire. It was similar to the mass expulsions of Jews out of western Europe; the entire population would pull together an enormous sum of gold to pay the king off and make it worth his while to expel them

>>520556797
Xi runs his own nation and gets shit done. Not particularly well, but his job involves leading and taking responsibility, not hiding behind a keyboard.
I would have some modicum of respect for Nick if he actually had some sort of accomplishments to his name. As it stands he’s just a carnival barker who talks mad shit, but doesn’t get anything done.

>>520557143
since youre too dumb to get it, its called infiltration

>>520555061
He's had a lot of zoomer women who are technically ideologically opposed to him, siding with him based on nothing but sheer momentum.

>>520557234
Infiltrating what, exactly? My point stands: Nick hasn’t accomplished anything in politics. No politicians fear alienating “the groyper vote”. No-one thinks about him or his followers before they pen a statement or propose a bill.

>>520554473
Maybe, but the overall trajectory is toward further radicalization and extremism. You might have a small respite for the status quo like a singular Biden term but right wing. However like Trump 2016 transformation to Trump 2024, the net change will be volatile and destabilizing as people ape for something different. Even the left shows some signs of this as they recovery from their second humiliation.

>>520557674
Women are whores. They'll fall in line if we win, and abandon us if we lose. Their views aren't meaningful and have never been meaningful in any political revolution. They're just the thermometers used to gauge the success of a political movement.

>>520554866
It's an /int/ meme. A 4chan shitposter colony on then twitter adopted it and eventually merged into Nick's base around the early 2020s.

>>520553939 (OP)
The minute you call yourself a Groyper it's not your movement it's (((Nick's)))

>>520557750
He's radicalized much of the zoomer political youth. Now the talent pool that the Republicans pull from is tainted and many are getting through via saturation. There's already groypers in the whitehouse and sprinkled among the GOP's representative staff, even other conservative institutions.
In a way, he's going the institutional subversion route that jews similarly used to get in power many decades ago. It remains to be seen if his faction will usurp leadership, but at minimum, it'll cost the current establishment GOP a lot to maintain their control. Even if they ultimately fail and the party tanks with Democrats getting another hand at the wheel, it'll be extremely destabilizing in an accelerationist way within the right and create more opportunities to grab more share of political influence.
They got nothing left to lose and a lot to gain.

>>520558737
Even if the right becomes split and the democrats win an election or two off of it, they will do so much damage to the country that it will further radicalize the right, who will inevitably galvanize behind the more radical faction of the right as a response. Basically it's over for the moderate right.

>>520558737
Did he really, or would they have been radicalized anyway and are now embarassed by him? He looks older than most millenials but without the wisdom

>>520556708
it's not his job to get people elected, what the fuck kind of goal post expectations due you have for a 27yo
>>520557143
>why hasn't he filled Trump/Xi's shoes yet!
full retard

>>520554597
>implying they aren’t both

>>520553939 (OP)
This is spot on and its glorious.
Trump needed to walk so Nick could fly.
>>520554323
This is a good TLDR of the OP if you hate the wall of text

spick fuentes is a gay lolcow. simple as