Thread 520720311

Who is in the wrong? Trump or Massie?
>Grocery prices are not way down. The only way to reverse inflation is to quit spending more money than we bring in, which means we must cut spending. The big beautiful bill increased spending.
https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1986254282442596670

This guy is just a raging lefty at this point.

>>520720311 (OP)
Most people don't understand most of the debt is from interest

>>520720311 (OP)
>The only way to reverse inflation is to quit spending more money than we bring in
it is?

>>520720367
Massie is not a lefty, he's just a Bush-era republican that didn't sprint further to the right for the last 20 years to court extremists.

>>520720367
fiscal responsibility makes you a lefty?

>>520720367
Everyone is now. I'm starting to get really pissed off because trump is the greatest president of all time and the economy is the best economy ever roaring to the moon meanwhile he has cut Hunter Bidens inflation and no one cares to say they are against fascism like Barrack Obama was doing with his BLM Soros death squads just look at the stock market (economy) and it would have been in shambles if Hilary Clinton and the globalists would have got in office and then Joe Biden made COVID to rig the election against Goat. Israel would have been wiped off the planet from antisemite if God didn't get his chosen peoples message and mandate Trump to be the that best president of all time everyone loves except Muslim communists which is why if you check Trump's polls he has the highest approval rating of all time.

>>520720311 (OP)
>Massie says grocery prices are NOT way down!
They aren't. They haven't even slightly dipped. In fact, they may have even increased a bit further.

>>520720367
If pushing back against jewish lies is leftism then call me Karl.

>>520720311 (OP)
If you left your basement and actually went to buy your own groceries, you'd know. Food prices are higher than ever, and Trump is a drooling retard.

>>520721243
>anti-interventionist libertarian
>bush era republican
you miggers are so stupid it's insane.

>>520721028
But it's antisemitic to point that out! Think of the aryan monsters who killed six GORILLION of Yahweh's chosen people!!!!

Also, somebody tell me about this Chinese sex mannequin/robot?

>>520720311 (OP)
I can't believe Trump actually said that. Do these people ever talk to real humans or just each other?

>>520720311 (OP)
Massie is wrong. Food prices are down and I don't understand this meme where people say they're expensive

>>520721243
Massie has been extreme on the issue of Israel.
Trump convinced his base that jew lives matter more than White lives, that White children are jewish sex toys, and that everything you own belongs to ISRAEL, goy.

>>520721723
>everyone is wrong except me and Trump
this is why you're losing

>>520721723
Post like this are why Virginia elected a man who said he wanted republicans to die.

>>520722099
This is phony. If you struggle to eat then it's your fault. Trump had nothing to do with it. Budget better

>>520722099
The gaslighting from the Israelis about how great it's going under trump is kind of amazing to watch. Nobody believes it anymore. Oh well mossad is having trump wire up the entire Whitehouse with his faggot interior decorating he spends his time with while the jew runs the country.

>the only way
Both of these tards are too afraid to mention that reducing the money supply and raising taxes are both proven and direct methods to reduce inflation.

>>520722216
>Budget better
Yes, that's what Massie is trying to do with the government. You almost get it.

>>520722354
Massie is wrong. Food prices are low. I'm saying if there was an issue then learn to budget better

>>520722099
my buddy John Furner of Walmart recently talked on TV how they cut prices and offer bundle deals for Thanksgiving. it has never happened before. some faggots never lived on a budget and now suddenly they have to buy shit like hamburger helper lol
buy pasta $1 per box and some real hamburger. you can survive on this for a week. $10 per week. easy peasy.

>>520720367
Hey mr. principled conservative, is this picture AI or will you eat the bugs?

will you post the instore prices?

>>520722216
They should just print some money and add that to an account for people who want to buy from Walmart fuck food stamps let's just give everyone tons of printed cash and then we can buy out China with worthless money before we switch to magacoins for proven trump voting employees.

>>520720311 (OP)
Massie is based. Fuck the jewish dick sleeve Trump and the rest of the republicans.

>>520722400
If you want to see in the inside of an oven in 2028, keep running on that.

>>520722458
>publix
>$9.76
A bit expensive. I buy from a local butcher at $6.50 fresh no growth hormones etc. Why shop at public if even trader joes has better prices?

>>520720311 (OP)
Groceries are getting more expensive and Trump is just now learning that the word "affordability" is a real word. That's not a joke.

>>520720311 (OP)

the gaslighting is so exhausting. The price of beef goes up and all of a sudden democunts chimp out like we're back under bidenflation.

>>520720311 (OP)
No, the Big Beautiful Bill cut more spending than it increased, so it created a net decrease in spending. It also cut taxes tremendously. So while it will cost money, it did not increase spending. Massie is bullshitting.

Also it's time we the people tariff the federal government at a rate of 200% our tax burden like we doing business. May be another 100% thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>520722647
You sound like AI

>>520722650
Trump signed the cares act you fuck wit. That’s was the biggest inflationary action in the country’s history.

>>520722586
Bullshit. You can't even get a whole cow at $5.50 a pound.

>>520720367
He is the only motherfucker not outright bought by Israel. So of course you hate him.
Thomas Massie, well-known crazed lefty liberal? Kys and livestream.

>>520721355
He simply hasn't caught up with the times and realized fiscal responsibility is moot in a kiked hellscape where numbers on a screen are simply edited with a few keystrokes and viola, suddenly you have more money. Everyone "gets paid" and the lemmings keep showing up to those jobs and keeping the wheels of society turning.

>>520721723
They're not down at all. If anything I'd say it got even more expensive. I remember when I was shocked by a $80 grocery bill, when I bought all kinds of shit without watching prices.
Now I pay around $100 on much smaller purchases if I want the same quality and quantity I'm used to, not even going out of my way to buy expensive shit.

>>520720311 (OP)
Massie says opens borders and free trade are based too. Most of what massie says is lolbert bullshit.

>>520722875
>He is the only motherfucker not outright bought by Israel.
News flash: when you judge politicians by only a single criteria, you're going to end up not realizing that isn't the only bad association they can have.

>>520722842
He thinks buying half a cattlebeast is a life hack lmao

I've had enough money left over to buy stuff.

>>520723142
>Massie says opens borders
no he doesn't you lying /ptg/ nigger.

>>520720367
Fucking pathetic mossad

>>520723225
Hes a huge open borders shill. Most lolberts are. They dont believe and borders and shit as part of the whole governments are bad platform. Same reason he opposes any regulations on corporations or regulation on free trade. Thats ebil government. Massie bashing the adl isnt the extent of his politics you know.

>>520722805

>jewish pilpul
Nein, comrade.

>>520723389
>Hes a huge open borders shill.
lying nigger

>>520723225
Why is he against ICE raids?
>/ptg/nigger
TDSnigger detected. No worthwhile answer incoming.

>>520724410
>But he disagreed with king nigger once ages ago.
Dude has voted against every gop border control bill for the last couple of years. The border would still be open like it was under biden if massie had his way. Can you guess why?

>>520724410
>Republican Congressman Thomas Massie jumped across the aisle to support a Democratic-led measure on Tuesday that would terminate President Donald Trump's emergency declaration at the U.S. southern border.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/26/kentucky-republican-supports-democratic-led-resolution-blocking-trumps-border-wall/2992696002/
>Duarte was one of two Republicans, along with Rep. Thomas Massie (Ky.), that chose to vote against the bill.
>The House passed the bill in a 219-213 vote on Thursday, with all but the two Republicans in favor and all Democrats opposed. The legislation calls for completing former President Trump’s wall on the southern border and implementing additional restrictions on access to asylum.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4002744-gop-lawmaker-explains-vote-against-republican-border-bill/
>Rep. Thomas Massie said he would vote against Republicans’ major border security bill, known as H.R. 2, that they plan to try to pass again this Congress.
>The Kentucky conservative said his opposition was still due to E-verify, a program that companies use to check the immigration status of their employees. “The only problem I have is E-verify,” he said in a brief interview, adding that he doesn’t think the additional paperwork is necessary.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/13/congress/massie-still-opposes-gop-immigration-bill-00198001

Three different actions to crack down on illegal immigration and the border, and three times he balked. You're a shill protecting controlled opposition.

>>520724822
Okay, but I'm still significantly more fond of the guy for not being bought by AIPAC and constantly bending the knee to kikes.

>>520720311 (OP)
Trump is in the wrong. Everything is still expensive as hell including gas.
And orange fatass (who I voted for) is more absorbed in the affairs of stinking jews and Israel or Ukraine or Venezuela.
Deportations are half assed and where's the fucking wall?? Epstein?? Arrests??

>>520720311 (OP)
Men like Massie will sit back and let the country die while spending the entire time crying about principles.

Name one time in the history of ever that prices go down? No matter what happens, prices go up because fuck you. If there are shortages, price go up. Supply glut? Prices go up. Nothing ever goes down in price, no matter what the situation is.

>>520724822
literally none of these are because he is "open borders" you little retard.

>>520725013
I get that, but what does that posturing matter when he's literally standing in the way of actions that objectively improve our country by dealing with illegal aliens and a lax border? Do you really value ideological grandstanding over getting shit done? Because some of us remember living with that with Rand Paul and we learned our lesson about mouthy lolbertarians who talk a big game while never getting anything accomplished.

>>520725013
Being an open borders shill isn't bending over for kikes. By the way the reason he voted against border control is because of e verify requirements. Cant possibly hold jewish business owners accountable when they hire illegals. Its the most disgusting of reasons that only makes sense to a lolbert but in no way can be described as based or taking it to the jews. The guy is pretty terrible on literally every issue other than apiac and even that is just talk. If lolberts as a political faction were actually based they wouldn't be so unpopular.

>>520725112
They literally all involve locking down the border and he voted against all of them. How the fuck do you define open borders, dipshit? Because he SAYS he is? Who the fuck cares when his actions directly contradict that? What has he actually DONE to strengthen border policy?

>>520725013
So you like him for shilling infinite jeets just for the love of the game instead of because he's getting paid by jews? Personally I wouldn't like anyone shilling for infinite jeets no matter the reason

>>520725112
>He just voted for open borders because he hates open borders ok.

>>520720311 (OP)
It's an ideological argument and we all know nothing is going change. Even if we started paying down the debt somehow by cutting spending we have 36 trillion in government debt and I think well over 100 trillion in private debt. This is because our belief about money is that it can be printed and it's value comes from others buying our treasury bonds. If countries stop buying our bonds we blow them up and force them to buy bonds while taking their oil. It's been very effective thus far and is why we have a yearly trillion dollar trade deficit. If the U.S.A. was not a nation ran by mobsters who use their military and private armies to kill people then we would have to actually produce something the world wants and needs.

>>520725112
They literally all involve locking down the border and he voted against all of them. How the fuck do you define being against open borders, dipshit? Because he SAYS he is? Who the fuck cares when his actions directly contradict that? What has he actually DONE to strengthen border policy?

>>520725038
Cut out that last line if you want to be believable. You showed too much nose at the end.

>>520720311 (OP)
Gas price gone down but fucking Washington state raised their tax so it evens out.

>>520721243
>Bush-era republican
so he’s planning to hire people to blow up the freedom tower so we can invade some muslim country

>>520720311 (OP)
NY is completely insulated from any kind of economic recovery because they siphon any cream that rises before it ever hits the top and screeches there’s still not enough

>>520722842
I own a high end butcher and sell mince at $6.50 per pound usd ($22/kg aud) and costs here are way higher.

>>520720311 (OP)
Why does this retard spend more time attacking Trump than he does attacking the other party?

>>520725232
>How the fuck do you define open borders
favoring a porous border that anyone can cross. being against shitty bills that can be used by feds to infringe on civil liberties or rack up spending does not make someone open borders you dumbass /ptg/tard. trump has also proved that the only thing you need is an executive branch willing to carry out the law, otherwise the law is pointless and no bill is going to change anything.

>>520722764
Why do miggers have shit like this saved on their computer?

>>520725275
>vote for my shitty bill or go along with my unconstitutional order otherwise youre open border tee hee
shut the fuck up underage retard.

>>520725535
>We dont need laws and shit
Not very convincing anon.

The best way to defeat inflation is to delete USD from various accounts. $5 here, $1,000,000 there, depending on the account. Remove as much USD circulating as possible.

The best way to solve the cost of living crisis is to deport every illegal parasite here and end all work visas so Americans can get good jobs and afford houses.
Massie would be against this.

>>520720311 (OP)
mass immigration massie

>>520720311 (OP)
Trump.

But remember, Trump is doing the same shit Republican presidents always do. Counterintuitively, the deficit has only decreased under Democrats over the last 40 years. If this is something that worries you, you should never vote Republican.

>>520725604
>Wont somebody think of jewish business owners!
Its shitty because some cringy lolbert shitbag says so?

>>520720311 (OP)
just shop at grocery outlet. its way cheaper and the food is the same--its just overstock or a box with a dent in it. shopping at retail supermarkets is moronic.

>>520721243
>Bush era Republican
He's not for spending like a nigger who won the lottery, so no, he is not a "Bush Republican"

>>520725535
>favoring a porous border that anyone can cross.
Then what does voting against every bill that tries to change that make someone, jackass?
>being against shitty bills that can be used by feds to infringe on civil liberties
None of those bills did that. How is E-Verify used by feds to infringe on civil liberties?
>and rack up spending
You have to spend fucking money to fund the enforcement of the law, retard. There's no getting around that. Did you really think that the funding already exists for shit like ICE raids and mass deportations? And what alternative bills did he author or sponsor that didn't do that shit you claim? Oh, that's right: NONE.
>/ptg/tard
Again, always a confirmation to never expect a substantive answer.

>>520722493
Massie is a deceiver and uses the same style of argumentation as jews
>blocks Trump agenda because le integrity of voting for CR
>called out by Trump for voting to approve CR before
>ACKSHUALLY, I never voted to approve a CR that passed :^ , stop being misleading :^)

>>520725604
>shut the fuck up underage retard.
Kill yourself, glownigger kike. You're clearly here to (((shut down))) critics of Massie's lolbertarian bullshit that smells exactly the same as Rand Paul's.

>>520725612
Also, remove income taxes from the lowest income levels(under $50K/year income including investments), lower income taxes by 15% for the middle(50,001-200K inc investments), and raise taxes on $200,001+, by .2% for every $100K earned yearly up to 10% max. Anyone that sells shares in any publicly-traded company outside of a 401k has to pay a flat 5% federal tax on trades. Don't like it? Don't use the stonks markets. Also, 10% on ALL crypto gains. Paid in USD, not crypto, directly to the US treasury.

>>520725608
who are you quoting, dumb fuck? we already have laws.

>THE POWER TO EXCLUDE OR TO EXPEL ALIENS IS VESTED IN THE POLITICAL DEPARTMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT, AND IS TO BE EXECUTED BY THE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY
>THE POWER TO EXCLUDE ALIENS, AND THE POWER TO EXPEL THEM, REST UPON ONE FOUNDATION, ARE DERIVED FROM ONE SOURCE, ARE SUPPORTED BY THE SAME REASONS, AND ARE, IN TRUTH, BUT PARTS OF ONE AND THE SAME POWER
>>520725672
>le jews!! i love big government!
natsocs are about as cringy and delusional as ""democratic socialists""
>>520725806
>Then what does voting against every bill that tries to change
it means he views a specific part of the bill as bad or unnecessary
>How is E-Verify used by feds to infringe on civil liberties?
https://www.siriusxm.com/clips/social/embed/clip/aa47060e-355d-4c3a-aed3-39861943d3ba/41a2130a-1120-4c54-815c-0b3173d2f9be

here you go, since I'm sure you've never taken the time to actually investigate things and just regurgitate other /ptg/ retards and trump shills.

>>520722400
They're not lower. But telling Americans to "budget better" and "cut back" while the kikes in power reap all the benefits of this "strong, booming economy" for themselves is sure to get you necked in a few years.

oh

>>520725806
>You have to spend fucking money to fund the enforcement
no, you do not need 150 billion to secure the border or deport beaners.

>>520726032
>here you go
You linked the audio where he claimed that E-Verify is wrong because it's a "fundamental right" to hire anyone without ensuring they're here legally, which is absurd and the fact that you couldn't even be bothered to type that out really shows what a low-effort shill you are.

>>520720311 (OP)
>the big beautiful bill increased spending

Ok so why did you vote for it Mr. Massie?

>>520726032
>who are you quoting, dumb fuck?
You
>Random nazi hating
Yes very based. Massie opposed the bill because he was protecting jewish business owners. As lolberts are want to do.

>>520726081
>no, you do not need 150 billion to secure the border or deport beaners.
>In total, we find that the cost of a one-time mass deportation operation aimed at both those populations—an estimated total of is at least $315 billion. We wish to emphasize that this figure is a highly conservative estimate. It does not take into account the long-term costs of a sustained mass deportation operation or the incalculable additional costs necessary to acquire the institutional capacity to remove over 13 million people in a short period of time—incalculable because there is simply no reality in which such a singular operation is possible. For one thing, there would be no way to accomplish this mission without mass detention as an interim step. To put the scale of detaining over 13 million undocumented immigrants into context, the entire U.S. prison and jail population in 2022, comprising every person held in local, county, state, and federal prisons and jails, was 1.9 million people.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/mass-deportation/
Go fuck yourself, TDSnigger.

he brought egg prices back down, all that matters.

> Jews control the POTUS
> Jews control the SCOTUS
> Jews control Congress
> Jews control most states congresses
> Jews control the Republican party
> Jews control the Democratic party
> Jews control the mainstream media
> Jews control the internet nu-media that is streamed directly into your children's brain (ZuckerBERG)
> Jews control the Chinese alt-media (TikTok) that is streamed directly into your children's brain
You guys are so cooked. I don't have anything to add to this thread except note that you are wasting your time trying to assign blame to each other while being sucked dry and flushed down the toilet. It would be fun if it was not so tragic. You are all equally fucked. Left. Right. Black. White. Latino. Trannies. It doesn't matter. America in 2025 = Weimar in 1925. Good luck coming back from that without destroying your country.

T. - a eurorich

>>520726188
if you're going to lie and obfuscate what he actually said you should at least wait until a reasonable amount of time has passed so you can at least claim to have legitimately listened to it.
>>520726268
>You
where?
>Random
yes, so (((random)))
>>520726270
>one american immigration council study
if millions of spics could be deported before without tripling the budget of ICE then they could do it again just fine

>>520721391
This is why I got off the Trump train. You guys just wanna live the delusional past instead of actually making 'change' , which ironically you guys always start off by blaming Obama as if 2008 is when corruption began...
Fuck the Roman circus; followers of it (you) are just another worship cult needing a slavery hiarchy in order for the universe to make any sense because you're all too old now and can't think any differently.

We borrow money to pay the interest on the debt. That means you are absolutely bankrupt lol. Getting a loan like that as a person or business is completely impossible. A loan shark wouldn't give it to you. Illegal immigration, nafta, 9/11 and finally covid defeated the empire

Massie is correct that the fedgov spending, which is controlled by U.S. Congress, is what causes inflation to occur.
Only by reining in gov spending can inflation be brought under control

>>520726539
>if you're going to lie and obfuscate what he actually said
It's in the first fucking minute of the audio YOU posted. Kill yourself.

>>520726576
>borrow money to pay the interest on the debt
Correct

>>520726539
When you said
>We dont need laws and shit
Kike echos are years out of fashion anon and came from a cringy nazi podcast.

>>520720311 (OP)
Random tidbit but apparently according to my mom (she's great) a 12-pack of soda in the long boxes is 10.99 where we shop now, and it was around 3.99 in 2020

>>520726539
Also
>if millions of spics could be deported before
Millions of spics were never deported before. Operation Wetback yielded just over a million spics and it took years of work and a ton of money. You don't know anything about the topic you're discussing and you're dismissing actual facts that you don't like. Kill yourself.

>>520722489
You sound deranged.

>>520726590
The government would have to spend nothing for years to put a dent in the debt. Its not gonna be taken care of with a few spending cuts here and there. Especially when those cuts all come from border control.

>>520721391
Nigger

You Are Being Murdered By The ‘Food Pyramid’

https://youtu.be/o_VMDeYSFNw

Shampoo Is Making You Go Bald

https://youtu.be/JV6REOP4yGE

>>520720367
>cut spending
>lefty

>>520725458
>I don’t live in the US but I’m very knowledgeable about how much things cost in the US